"If you're playing MvM, and you're using any other Scattergun besides the Soda Popper, you're doing it wrong." - *shows the Scattergun in every other clip*
@miccool9ice363
2 жыл бұрын
Yes
@go-go-rilla4405
2 жыл бұрын
Yes
@VolcanicoD.S.
2 жыл бұрын
Yes
@IamDrDapper
2 жыл бұрын
Yes
@randomdude3299
2 жыл бұрын
Yes
@veryloudcat8839
Жыл бұрын
Fun little quirk about the Shortstop that some people may not know: For some reason, the shortstop is treated like a continuous fire weapon by tf2, meaning that whenever it gets a random crits, it gets _a few seconds of crits_ instead of just one shot thanks to clip size upgrades, firing speed upgrades, and the shotstop's tight spread, having a free crit canteen popped on you at random can be real helpful.
@AlexDoubleAU
Жыл бұрын
I mean, it it's classified as a pistol, so it's probably just a pile of source spaghetti
@ronaid-with-an-i
Жыл бұрын
@@AlexDoubleAU why would it be faulty coding if it works as intended? It's classified as a pistol on purpose.
@AlexDoubleAU
Жыл бұрын
@@ronaid-with-an-i I know *that* was on purpose But I doubt that random crits giving several seconds of crits was intended for the shortstop
@ronaid-with-an-i
Жыл бұрын
@@AlexDoubleAU it probably wouldn't have been classified as a pistol if that was the case
@AlexDoubleAU
Жыл бұрын
@@ronaid-with-an-i it's modeled after a real life pistol Of course they classified it as a pistol Anything else would be lying
@medicgaming9117
2 жыл бұрын
An interesting thing about the bonk is it lets you get money when it would usually be impossible.
@wifeburger
2 жыл бұрын
You can accomplish this with an invincibility canteen while still keeping mad milk.
@ignisglasses3080
Жыл бұрын
@@wifeburger ye but that costs money lol
@rikupv
Жыл бұрын
@@ignisglasses3080 $75 isn't that much in the grand scheme of things, yeah the bonk is free but completely takes away an important support tool. So if $75 is too much for that then go ahead of course
@mariustan9275
Жыл бұрын
@@rikupv Well with Uber canteens you can still get hit with knockback. I tries to use an uber canteen and got blasted to the limit of the skybox.
@UltraDumbass
Жыл бұрын
@@mariustan9275 u still get kb w bonk
@pomi1365
2 жыл бұрын
I think another thing to mention with the FoW is the fact that you're already gonna get these opportunities or mark bots if you're doing your job correctly as scout, you're already gonna be able to get within melee range of a priority target on multiple occasions because your overall range and collecting cash in the front lines, so you don't really have to go out of your way to swap to your melee and mark one before going back to your regular thing. It's up to preference and skill, but I personally believe this boosts the FoW above the sandman for me, as you can only squeeze out the maximum potential if you're good with your aim and far enough from the action to utilize the slow mechanic.
@isabeluelmen9727
Жыл бұрын
Right. Milk does enough slowing.
@yakobsoulstorm5187
7 ай бұрын
Actually, the Sandman marks for death with the swing. It’s objectively better than the Fan’o’War if you have the credits to spare.
@ignitionfrn2223
2 жыл бұрын
0:50 - Bat 1:05 - Wrapped Assassin 1:40 - Boston Basher 2:10 - Sun on a stick 2:30 - Candy cane 3:15 - All pistols (Stock, Winger, Pretty Boy Pocket Pistol) 3:50 - Flying Guillotine 4:10 - Atomizer 4:40 - Crit a cola 5:15 - Bonk atomic Punch 5:45 - Force a nature 6:35 - Baby face blaster 7:25 - Back scatter 8:10 - Sandman 9:05 - Scattergun 9:50 - Shortstop 10:45 - Fan o war 11:15 - Mad Milk 12:15 - Soda popper
@aussiehighlands2715
2 жыл бұрын
Can you do this on every class video of his? Thanks btw
@diegoizaguirre3452
Жыл бұрын
Pin?
@novemecas9373
Жыл бұрын
Thank you
@johnnywick2460
Жыл бұрын
Thank you, lad, Godspeed
@Captriuk
2 ай бұрын
Absolute legend
@purplehaze2358
2 жыл бұрын
I love how he tells people to use the soda popper exclusively, while also exclusively using the stock scattergun everywhere else in the video.
@scouthedog
Жыл бұрын
Well I’m pretty sure he’s using the same game for the footage so he didn’t use others
@savdol4215
2 жыл бұрын
Definetly an underrated channel!
@aldexasnder
2 жыл бұрын
Very much so he deserves so much more
@robertcreegan4384
2 жыл бұрын
This was his first video
@tygonmaster
2 жыл бұрын
He really did come in guns blazing with great audio, great editing, and clearly a well-written script.
@orangejoe2147
2 жыл бұрын
He’s a relatively new channel, so it’ll take a little bit for his videos to blow up. I guarantee that he’ll make for a great tf2 mvm channel
@valent5
2 жыл бұрын
Indeed
@lazy7789
2 жыл бұрын
Intro 0:00 D Tier 0:48 C Tier 4:09 B Tier 8:11 A Tier 9:06 S Tier 10:43
@HuneeBruh
2 жыл бұрын
Thank you
@Immort4l5
2 жыл бұрын
Thanks
@Rhynx
2 жыл бұрын
I didn’t see this be mentioned in the Sandman’s section but when you buy the sandman, hitting the robots also marks them for death, making it a basically direct upgrade from the fan o war in the late rounds.
@fred862
2 жыл бұрын
I can see your point, but personally i'd use it only for memes or in late waves since 500 credits for the Marked for Death upgrade is pretty expensive at the start
@Neometalll
2 жыл бұрын
Sad that they removed the attack speed upgrade for the sandman. I had some fun times running around and soloing giants with it.
@johnnodwarf1201
2 жыл бұрын
For a 500 credit upgrade of course.
@beastwarsFTW
2 жыл бұрын
I don't spend money on my primary as a scout and spend most of my money on boosting my defense and milk so I end up as a nigh invulnerable wall that melees with the marked sandman.
@rightfulfuture4
2 жыл бұрын
@@fred862 on top of the fact that you need ball recharge and extra balls, it's pretty expensive
@Scorch3DO
2 жыл бұрын
I had a strange baby face with thousands of bots killed on it, before the nerf it was so fun zipping around the map at 4x speed. I'll never forgive valve for gutting my blaster :(
@ja311y7
2 жыл бұрын
This is one of the most well made mvm tier list I have seen, great job!
@artidery3526
2 жыл бұрын
Scout's fully upgraded shortstop does the most DMG out of every class against tanks, even beating buff banner soldier
@charlsondemong4922
2 жыл бұрын
Low health mini crit Equalizer Soldier.
@toasterdotpng
2 жыл бұрын
@@charlsondemong4922 mini-crit the shortstop. once again, shreds
@jake_aka_aesir
2 жыл бұрын
@riley pretty sure the soda popper only out damages with the ghost upgraded firing speed, dont quote me on that but i heard it somewhere
@davitdavid7165
2 жыл бұрын
Does it beat the phlog and the carbine-bushwacka sniper?
@jake_aka_aesir
2 жыл бұрын
@riley thanks broh, someone had to do it
@AudraSomeone
2 жыл бұрын
when you buy the mark to death upgrade for sandman you dont really have to reply on the ball you can just hit the target and run away because hitting or land a ball on the target would result in giving them the mark to death if you wanted to use sandman's mark to death ability but its too expensive then you can play until you get to late wave and then you can switch your bat back to sandman
@blacklight683
2 жыл бұрын
Scout can actually make the most tank damage +support Support is obvious And tank damage with the forse-a-natrue(better for tanks) Or Soda poper(best on everything) With max clip/damage/ammo upgrades you can do 2x-3x more damage than phlog pyro not a lot of people know that
@X_mezo_X
2 жыл бұрын
easily my favorite strat for tank busting considering scout is one of my favorite classes in mvm.
@nicolasrage1104
2 жыл бұрын
Crita Cola is pretty decent against the tanks as well.
@That_one_goober99
2 жыл бұрын
"for the best secondary is scout's cu- i mean mad milk" Had me dying
@FuckFace-ew9yq
10 ай бұрын
So this is where the legend Weezy started. Thanks for these videos man. Its hard to actually learn mvm these days unless you either have a full group of friends or you read through a dozen guides
@Mrcreeperdash1
2 жыл бұрын
The firing speed ghost upgrade for soda popper is great , can make scout potentially out dmg most classes on metro malice ,botbash, bone shaker, broken parts, desperation, and potentially all of the steel trap missions. T. 300 gear grinder and 200 tour 2c player myself
@simpsitandmore2908
2 жыл бұрын
Nice mvm tier list! It's also good that the fan o war and the mad milk are in the same meta as a marked for death giant that has been cum- I mean mad milked can restore so much health (since the high damage of mini crits gives you more health). Also you can troll giant jumping sandman scouts and samurai demos by throwing mad milk with reduced speed upgrade.
@Quilquala
2 жыл бұрын
Mini crits do two things, increase damage by 30% and remove damage fall off, its really not that much damage
@senounatsuru6453
2 жыл бұрын
@@Quilquala 35%, and that's 35% more than you'd do without it.
@dapperfield595
2 жыл бұрын
I honestly think the Sandman is underrated. When I have credits to spare/mid-late game, I usually ditch the FoW for the Sandman since being able to mark and slow from a distance makes things a lot easier. Not to mention those Giants which fling you to the skybox and that wave where 12 Super Scouts/Bonk Scouts come rushing in.
@whisperoftheworm6479
9 ай бұрын
Plus you can mark multiple bots from range super quickly
@nicolasrage1104
2 жыл бұрын
Sun on a stick might be good on early rounds if the pyros are kicking your ass but you don’t want to spend money on fire resistance. The Sandman is very underrated and it’s actually better than the Fan when you have enough money to buy the upgrade. It’s a lot safer and it still marks players for death with the melee itself (once you buy the buff). Lastly, I feel like the Winger might have potential with the Soda Popper’s jumps. Even though jump height is cheap, the winger allows you to save your money for other upgrades in the early rounds when paired with the Soda Popper. Edit: Since I made this comment I’ve played more MVM. The Winger is actually pretty good if you’re a DPS Scout, and your team already has a good source of healing. However I now think that the Sun on A Stick is pretty pointless because you can heal off the Afterburn by picking up money (which is very common in MVM).
@Phe0niz
2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for bringing up medic uber farming from sentry busters, for some reason a lot of players I end up with never acknowledge it when knocking it around or activating it early.
@galegopaulista4564
2 жыл бұрын
Honestly, I was surprised to see you have less than 700 subscribers. This video is very well made!
@hydro8460
2 жыл бұрын
Great stuff man, keep it up!
@WeezyTF2
2 жыл бұрын
I'll remember you for the history of this channel Hydro
@empty4352
2 жыл бұрын
remember me too, I'm 2 months late but yeah.
@UberSpah
5 ай бұрын
@@WeezyTF2Do you still remember him, Weezy?
@WeezyTF2
3 ай бұрын
@@UberSpah you never forget your first comment
@professionalcatgaming
Ай бұрын
@@WeezyTF2 common weezy w
@snitramrotiv4410
2 жыл бұрын
I've met your channel with your "bad mvm upgrades" videos and not only I really enjoyed your content, but it really gave more motivation to play again TF2 (specificaly mvm)
@danielsurvivor1372
2 жыл бұрын
I think you underappreciated Force a Nature, it has a lot of utility on top of still being one of the best dmg dealing primaries. It can reset bombs into the pit/gears, it can sometimes knockback bomb carrying bots giving you more time, and it can help you save up on the jump height upgrade due to it's force jump mechanic. The only reason I stopped using it is because, well, it's kinda dangerous to use. You see I said it *sometimes* pushes bomb carrying bots back if you're on front. But somehow, if you're behind them, you will ALWAYS push them forward unless you killed them. This makes it a super dangerous weapon to use, I don't remember if I ever lost a game due to giving bomb more progress, but I personally decided to not risk it and take up soda popper after all. It still a way better gun then back scatter and 🤢 baby face blaster 🤮.
@tfclassicengineer1005
2 жыл бұрын
It doesn't do as much damage as stock because clip size!
@tahu-tz6re
2 жыл бұрын
Pushing bots around with every single shot is a massive downside that will really mess with your team, it's basically griefing.
@MarouaneTF
2 жыл бұрын
@@tfclassicengineer1005 then upgrade the clip size uhh did you forget that exists?
@SenyiKimmo
2 жыл бұрын
@@tahu-tz6re This is why I prefer rocking the shortstop. It has pretty crazy damage when upgraded (especially vs tanks believe it or not), and you can _choose_ when to use the shove rather than it just being something that happens whenever you shoot.
@tfclassicengineer1005
2 жыл бұрын
@@MarouaneTF You could do more damage with stock because it will have more clip size.
@Isaacfess
2 жыл бұрын
Wow, really great and informative video man! I think I might switch from Soldier to Scout!
@antitoast2251
2 жыл бұрын
This is next level content for such a small channel. Hope you get more subs.
@veleroxin107
2 жыл бұрын
Why doesn't this have more views? i'm definitely subbing.
@maybe.86
2 жыл бұрын
This guy's MvM tier list videos gave me entertained during the second nti earlier this year
@Zpixi09
2 жыл бұрын
Fair Points For The Force A Nature But You Forgot The Part Where You Can Stall Bots From Exploding The Bomb With The Knockback
@numbersstationsarchive194
7 ай бұрын
If you have to stall robots from capping the bomb with a knockback weapon, then your team is doing something wrong. A competent team that can kill robots before they ever have a chance to leave the spawn area will always be better than a team that relies on stalling.
@Sjf0212
2 жыл бұрын
An interesting history note is that the Shortstop used to increase the health you would receive from picking up money, and the extra knockback from damage allowed you to surf on explosives quite easily. However, that got traded for the shove.
@denekhesab.2527
Жыл бұрын
Wow
@chuckled125
Жыл бұрын
I think it still has the knockback
@ELIJAHMCGAMER
2 жыл бұрын
I Respect the fact that he used the Sonic Green Hill Zone Music at the Start of a Scout Video lol
@ieatfeet1737
Жыл бұрын
The shortstop can also be used to shove the sentry buster away from the sentry if the engineer is dead.
@EdibleREAL
Жыл бұрын
It’s still rare thing to happen
@starblissed
Жыл бұрын
I feel like people really underestimate the power of forced movement in MvM because low tours give it a bad name, but being able to shove away sentry busters or seperate ubered medics from the patient are both really powerful (if slightly niche). Yes, a truly "Good" team can and will mow down an arbitrary number of bots, but during timed when things start to slip, shoves and air blasts can be so clutch.
@Boltscrap
10 ай бұрын
@@starblissed You can also delay giant scouts capping, possibly indefinitely. This is great to buy your teammates time to destroy it.
@LeftBootT
Жыл бұрын
The most "Fuck it, ive got 10 minutes" watch ive had in a while
@Anonymous-cn9ow
2 жыл бұрын
The most insane fact to me for some reason is that the Fan-Of-War is the only weapon in the entire game that marks other players for death every single other weapon that has or at least had the attribute (The GRU) marks yourself.
@dcp0102
Жыл бұрын
its not that insane, its pretty garbage other than in mvm
@KetsutuoRD94
Жыл бұрын
@@dcp0102 i disagree, as a scout player it's always helpful to target the medic and see him getting destroyed by every shot, though you must be careful
@dcp0102
Жыл бұрын
@@KetsutuoRD94 you could just destroy him yourself in the time it takes to fan of war him tf?? you have to get in melee range when you could be shooting before that, not to mention medics melees are op n you'll prob get crit one shotted if they take theirs out
@KetsutuoRD94
Жыл бұрын
@@dcp0102 but sneaky scout go brrrr
@Rashiklis
2 жыл бұрын
When I play MvM I always play as a scout because I m not skilled enough to play as other classes in MvM. Essentially I m most useful in MvM as a scout. By watching your video I learned quite a bit of new information and I will use it in my all other tours. Thanks Weezy!
@ianray1744
2 жыл бұрын
I definitely feel the Force A Nature should be higherr. If you use it's extra jump properly(flicking down and shooting when you first jump) you can get so much height you can jump from the floor to the rafters in Mannhattan, and i find the damage a scout is able to deal negligent in mvm, which it is. Main priority should be getting all the money and not missing any, and making sure you have constant and useful milks and fans.
@TheManinBlack9054
2 жыл бұрын
Great video!
@arthurfoxgamer2278
Ай бұрын
I bought The Soda Popper yesterday and got the Fan'o War as a drop, I didn't even knew they are good for Mvm
@moji_jojo1730
2 жыл бұрын
I may be biased towards the back scatter but I do think it has a pretty good niche use. 1 tick in damage upgrade and you can oneshot tiny Uber meds from behind, so if the sticky trap or [gas] missed any you can pick it off before it pops.
@ForwardStory
2 ай бұрын
I always run the shortstop. Aside from being the best mid-range, the best lategame, and (check the numbers) having more DPS than the scattergun for the early game, the shove can also be used to permastall the bomb at the hatch, and shoving is capable of moving giants *without* upgrades.
@yeta.
2 жыл бұрын
From a solo queue perspective I think the Bonk should be placed highly, it helps getting hard to reach bits of money if your team is pushed back, espeically in early waves
@stell-Caaster
Жыл бұрын
Nice choice for the music to be from sonic OSTs
@RGBHD404
2 жыл бұрын
I disagree with the soda popper being higher than the shortstop because the shortstop can push bombs off cliffs and reset bombs in clutch moments but everything else is on point.
@danielsurvivor1372
2 жыл бұрын
Only the shove range is super small and the push force is weak. Force a nature does this job way better
@amiamagi
2 жыл бұрын
@@danielsurvivor1372 And you’d be better off doing damage instead of being a pacifist so you can’t mess your Sniper’s aim/Demo’s sticky traps/Soldier’s crit bazooka rockets by doing damage.
@theshermantanker7043
2 жыл бұрын
@@amiamagi using the push doesn't mean you're pacifist. Shoving giants your team has trouble with into grinders or pushing bombs away from the hatch just in time are valid use cases
@thedootlord
2 жыл бұрын
8:29 best out of context line here so far
@shmangos4696
2 жыл бұрын
I love cheap balls
@cherrypopsicle92
2 жыл бұрын
My set up has always been Fan O' War early waves, and when I can spare money, then sandman. Mad Milk because support is INSANITY. Then Force 'o Nature. Admittedly, the force I don't mind dropping, but I've clutched a few times to protect a bomb about to kill us in places like Mannhatten, so I like it there, but I wouldn't mind dropping for something else. Soda Popper maybe a good choice like you said. Maybe if I jump back in I'll try that out.
@schweppley1614
2 жыл бұрын
You forgot to mention (or perhaps didnt know because it’s not an obvious trait) that the sandman can completely stun any robot, including giants, if you hit a max range stun, which is relatively easy to do if you’re familiar with the weapon, this makes it a great utility for helping your demo make a trap under the giant.
@delroku
Жыл бұрын
The Babyface Blaster should mostly be used with a good pistol because you can build boost at longer range and either be doing longer single jumps or tanking damage with the pocket pistol which becomes essentially a pocket machine pistol with maybe the highest rpm, while giving you health regen so you can cruise between robots as long as you're hitting something You can still later on upgrade the bfb mag size/reload speed as meatshots are always nice, but for the most a good pistol can make the bfb a great tool
@InsightReasoning
2 жыл бұрын
I don’t think you’d be doing it wrong if you use different weapons. I like the FAN because of the knockback. The knockback on giants is nearly negligible and typically people just don’t want to slightly adjust their aim for center mass so that the jumps don’t mean they miss. Unless there’s a sniper on the team in which case, make sure to keep track of if you’re going to be disrupting him in the case of giants. Also you totally can follow up with the FAN. Not all the time, but you can kill just as fine as any other weapon.
@fireblast133
Жыл бұрын
used to be the sandman's mark for death upgrade applied to bat swings too, so you were originally paying 500 to make it a full damage fow with range
@BoxMP
2 жыл бұрын
I would still say the Shortstop is the best scout weapon for the push, even tho it is a joke in casual in mvm u can push giants, push the bomb robot and push robots into pits/grinders
@Abysalss
2 жыл бұрын
I think that the force a nature should be B Because while yes the knock back can cause issues it’s also useful for thinning large herds to grab money as well as being like a pseudo air blast for small robots to delay the bomb, I’ll agree it’s annoying with giants but I think it’s dps helps offset the difficulty of getting multiple meat shots then again most of my experience is with lower tours
@enlongjones2394
11 ай бұрын
Important note on the Sandman. “Ball marks target” is not an accurate description. The upgrade makes *all* hits with the sandman mark the target, including melee. So once you get the upgrade, it’s a Fan O War with a ranged option. You trade the self-mark for less max health.
@czechcountryball984
2 жыл бұрын
the best scout loadout i can think of is soda popper + mad milk + fan o war (normal scout loadout) shortstop + crit a cola + sandman (for fighting tanks and mark for death giants from far away)
@Vitoluubs733
8 ай бұрын
Bro i'm thinking: what if there was a *upgrade for all bleed weapon* that makes the *target receive 50% more damge* from the same bleed weapon like the *flare gun*
@greenthunder8633
2 жыл бұрын
I haven't seen anyone mention this but moonballs from the sandman can soft stun giants meaning they will not move forward and will only jump in place for 7 seconds
@Ryusuta
2 жыл бұрын
My Scout MvM runs often begin with the Soda Popper, then transitions to the Shortstop. It takes longer to get going, but it ends up being significantly better in the long run, especially against tanks.
@Thriftytundra92
2 жыл бұрын
Nice video
@MochicoArtemis
2 жыл бұрын
honestly, you've stated a lot of biases in this Tier List of your's
@numbersstationsarchive194
7 ай бұрын
Not really. It's extremely rare to see a Scout using any secondary other than the Mad Milk because it's universally agreed to be his best secondary, by far. Scout's primary isn't so important because Scout is a support class, so the primaries that provide support functions, the Soda Popper and the Shortstop, just suit Scout's playstyle better than the others. Scout's melee isn't so important either, but the FoW gives teammates free minicrits, which is never not good.
@OlaftheGreat
2 жыл бұрын
I had a helluva lotta fun playing with the Back Scatter, minicritting giants to death before their meds could even pop
@Cholent_King
2 жыл бұрын
Shortstop is my go-to and nothing can stop that!
@WillowLynxhelm
2 жыл бұрын
I see the sandman has one use, and I don't know if anyone else has brought it up to you, but the sandman can still "stun" the robots, best used on giants, but it has to be a moonshot. But, it completely stops them in place which can be useful to some and a sniper would most likely love you for making it easier to hit something for him.
@portibleperson5189
2 жыл бұрын
The birth of a legend
@SneakybeakyScrub
2 жыл бұрын
the back scatter only really works as a sidegrade for regular tf2 where you can one shot light classes without outside buffs unlike the regular scattergun
@Beanie-Babe
2 жыл бұрын
my man didn't you have like 4.5k subs yesterday? am i hallucinating or is he growing insanely fast
@pedroxpedro7991
2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the info about More money ,more health ,i was always Wondering how do I get so much without using mad milk
@mr.calamity8886
2 жыл бұрын
Alright so here's my question. I know that taking aggro from your team with the soda popper makes you a fantastic projectile """tank""" but how do you actually take that aggro in the first place? Just by being the first human the bots see as they come off the ledge?
@X_mezo_X
2 жыл бұрын
Generally speaking, pestering the giant with enough damage makes them focus on you, you don't always have to be the first human they see, as long as you land enough damage on them , that's enough to draw their attention, hell sometimes one or two melee hits on them are enough to get them to focus on you.
@charlsondemong4922
2 жыл бұрын
@@X_mezo_X That explains why when I'm playing Spy, I always die after backstabbing a giant.
@Skullhawk13
2 жыл бұрын
@@charlsondemong4922 that’s actually because Giants are alerted to backstabs after a few seconds. Stab a few times, Dead ringer out, Disguise, repeat.
@theshermantanker7043
Жыл бұрын
@@Skullhawk13 Giants are actually horrendous at aiming when you hug them, if you can circlestab you can pretty much destroy a giant all by yourself
@Skullhawk13
Жыл бұрын
@@theshermantanker7043 that’s entirely possible but more difficult for the average player. I concede the point though.
@Hello_World_not_taken
Жыл бұрын
I never tried the soda popper, and after this video, I have pledged obsession
@ralphthejedimaster
2 жыл бұрын
i think you slightly undersold the shortstop by not mentioning shove at all, i'm still low tour count but i've used it many times to separate ubered medics from their targets and once i saved round 1 by repeatedly shoving a giant scout with the bomb that my team somehow let get past them off of the hatch for a full minute until the demoman finally came back and killed it for me, in MvM it really is a mini airblast
@SenyiKimmo
2 жыл бұрын
i know this tier list is probably rated for Mann Up, but I had a really good game with a team of Sunstick Scouts during Boot Camp. I switched to Pyro for them and it was hilarious.
@C.A._Old
Жыл бұрын
Least The Sandman Stun Or Another Named: DING DONG! BONK! Home Freaking Run Effect, Sound & Voice lines still working in MVM.
@SanityLoser
27 күн бұрын
frankly, i think the winger should have a higher tier, because you can just upgrade clip size and you have a great defense weapon. sure, it doesn’t have much utility, but it could be used as a finisher for small bots if your team runs out of ammo. but that’s very situational, so i gotta agree with your ranking.
@OrochiJr97
2 жыл бұрын
11:17 This is my kingdom come!
@BabyGhast4
Жыл бұрын
Can’t the sandman mark for death on bat hit if the upgrade is gotten, making it identical/better than the fan o’ war?
@numbersstationsarchive194
7 ай бұрын
Yes, but it's still worse than the FoW because the upgrade costs a fuckload of credits and isn't practical to buy until later waves, and the Sandman stil permanently kneecaps your max health by 15.
@embor7657
2 жыл бұрын
I play nightmare mode as a support scout and stock scatter gun is my go to, with mad milk and FoW don't use bat because needing to upgrade mark
@willhenderson1973
2 жыл бұрын
Glad to know ive been doing something right with the soda popper
@DannyCheezits
Жыл бұрын
if you buy 1 tick of damage on the back scatter you can 1-shot medics from behind, which i find pretty useful on gear grinder decoy wave 1 when the sniper is mentally disabled
@inkyno1
2 жыл бұрын
I think the Bat should also be S tier as you can max it's swing speed and absolutely abolish everyone eardrums with the Pan.
@SaucyBoy
2 жыл бұрын
nice video
@mad_scientist5597
2 жыл бұрын
I don't know what the hell made you pick the sonic green zone song for the beginning of the video, but that thing used to be my ringtone for years and even though it isn't anymore, I still almost reached over to the phone to see who's calling, lol
@numbersstationsarchive194
7 ай бұрын
Sonic is a fast hedgehog, Scout is a fast man.
@hector_campus
2 жыл бұрын
I think robots killed with mad milk assistance will drop small medkits if you are equiped with candy cane, so i think it is a C weapon for mvm.
@MFROOL
9 ай бұрын
0:00 A legend have been born.
@H3Vtux
2 жыл бұрын
Dear lord have I been playing this game wrong....
@vietnam_so_good
2 ай бұрын
he sounds so much different here compared to now.
@Vikingr4Jesus5919
2 жыл бұрын
Soda Popper, Mad Milk, and Fan o' War. Noted! And thanks! I'm taking notes because there's this community MvM map we got Down Under (Australia and NZ) and we have...NEVER...beaten the full thing yet on Bigrock EXTRA: Invasion difficulty. Heck, it took us easily 12 attempts just to get past Wave 2 of 9 in this 'EXTRA: Invasion" difficulty. What is Invasion difficulty you ask? Basically...Wave 666 on steroids. Wave 666 on Expert. You get the picture. Max upgrades are able, and still any class below 200hp can get one-shot x'D So with this info, I'm sure we can find our advantages.
@bloodorangeandlemonflavor
2 жыл бұрын
It's funny and good to know that if I were to return to play mvm, scouts build has not changed in 10 years
@eldridgelootiancimoe2302
Жыл бұрын
One of my combos with scout against giants is Mad milk(with slow upgrade) and fan o war,then scattergun(cus i scrap metalled my soda pop)
@StarfieldDisarray
2 жыл бұрын
I remember reading a heated old steam guide about mistakes in MvM that talked about the Fan being bad cause in the time spent swapping to it, hitting a giant, and swapping back to your primary you could've done more damage with the Soda Popper than you'd see from the Marked for Death.
@joeyjonquantaviusjr9927
2 жыл бұрын
You’re entire team does more dmg bruh
@StarfieldDisarray
2 жыл бұрын
@@joeyjonquantaviusjr9927 I know I just always remember it because of how angry they were talking about it
@metalac7722
2 жыл бұрын
i like your videos :)
@MrHeesman
Жыл бұрын
Do you have any advice for noobs with limited weapon options with the audacity to start considering playing MvM for loot?
@leonel392
Жыл бұрын
Get the unlocks first, otherwise you will be just bannedn
@numbersstationsarchive194
7 ай бұрын
Just buy the unlocks. Hell, just ask a friend to give you some meta weapons, they're practically worthless. It's not hard, dude.
@Spiffyo
2 жыл бұрын
Sandman does stun small bots and immobilizes giants if you get home run hits.
@maxomega3
Жыл бұрын
Could you explain why marked for death scales negatively with player skill? How can 135% damage be an inferior option?
@zoom0451
Жыл бұрын
Because they kill faster idk
@sensibledog09
Жыл бұрын
With higher lobbies more robots die faster,so making a robot take 35% extra dmg doesnt mean much if your demo can instantly kill them,heavy uses crit canteens or etc
@maxomega3
Жыл бұрын
@@sensibledog09 oh thanks that makes a lot of sense
@dogsys
2 жыл бұрын
Fully upgraded shortstop gaming
@meisunebernadetta9868
Жыл бұрын
I JUST REALIZED SOMETHING ABOUT THE SANDMAN It is true the Mark upgrade takes up money for other upgrades, but the ball does come equipped with an innate "Slow" milk upgrade. It is still a bad trade in terms of costs, but the utility of multiple balls may make it more viable as a secondary pick in various scenarios than it seems like
@leonel392
Жыл бұрын
Yes, if you have credits is better, you can mark without kissing the robot asses
@cammiescorner
2 жыл бұрын
Honestly I prefer using the Shortstop. It's not the best, and the extra knockback is frankly unmanagable if there's soldiers in a chokepoint blocking your way to a large pile of cash that's about to despawn and the rest of your team is dead, but being able to rapid-fire off a bunch of shots at close and midrange is too fun to give up imo.
@fette_bohne
2 жыл бұрын
Dont forget the push on shortstop can send giants into the pits
@ChihuahuaPlane
2 жыл бұрын
The problem with force a nature and soda popper is they waste all the ammo in the clip when you reload, so you try to reload 1 round you drop from 42 to 36 (with clip size upgrades) I’m not sure about the shortstop though
@ChihuahuaPlane
2 жыл бұрын
This also makes the scattergun the best if you don’t use self reload or whatever
@VERGIL...-
3 ай бұрын
Bro's voice went through such a glowup
@banana12216
2 ай бұрын
i’m pretty sure he has a better mic nowadays too
@niftyscrusade4291
2 жыл бұрын
For those who are curious, the most effective MvM "Meta" Loudout for scout is - Soda Popper - Mad Milk - Fan o war
@niftyscrusade4291
2 жыл бұрын
Primary is optional, most are good but Soda Popper has the best upgrades for general viability in terms of DPS
@ihazsucks
2 жыл бұрын
I usually switch fan o war for atomizer tho
@niftyscrusade4291
2 жыл бұрын
@@ihazsucks Atomizer isn't really that good in comparison, fan o war's passive damage boost is one of the best single target supporters in the game, very good for helping the team melt through giants.
@ihazsucks
2 жыл бұрын
@@niftyscrusade4291 you can shoot with your gun if you also want to melt giants, also buff banner are very common in 2cities making fan mini crits redundant
@smell4685
Жыл бұрын
I think it'd be cool if stock melees got to get 2 ticks of a 25% damage upgrade for like 200 per tick
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