its not a bug its a feature of what happens when you complain too much
@Syro-kn7mf
Жыл бұрын
As a f2p I think this is a amazing idea
@tytuberoblox
Жыл бұрын
I agree
@Adir-Yosef
Жыл бұрын
i disagree, why have any sort of bar to use these things the bots already went past that "road block" by either going premium or using a different method for chat sabotage
@MoodyDood
Жыл бұрын
@@Adir-Yosef exactly why removing this restriction wont do anything bad, the only possibility is making bots free to make, but ofc they will still get back to costing money since you can only run a single instance of tf2 at a time. As long as Valve actually does a big thing like linking accounts to week old social Steam accounts and letting the community report and game-ban them.
@liberterian1776
Жыл бұрын
Imagine being a f2p in 2023
@Syro-kn7mf
Жыл бұрын
@@liberterian1776 :/
@inductivegrunt94
Жыл бұрын
I agree wholeheartedly, give the F2Ps the ability to actually be a part of the community and not just playing the game. #freethef2ps
@wawacatishere
Жыл бұрын
#freethef2ps i am an F2P who really agree with this, it may cause some F2P to be annoying but atleast they wont be depressed
@davidpettigians
Жыл бұрын
My F2P ass with 600 hours and none of them spent communicating with my team
@EmilioMex-fp6te
Жыл бұрын
As a F2P I honestly want this to happen soon to have more team interactions or to avoid being kicked for being falsely acussed of being a bot and not being able to defend yourself
@okuu_utsuho
Жыл бұрын
I hope this reaches valve and give f2p a way to communicate with teammates, especially medics.
@tinyputiplays2505
Жыл бұрын
This is the reason I don't play a lot of casual and play with bots instead because I CAN ACTUALLY CALL FOR MEDIC INSTEAD OF SHOOTING SHOOTING LIKE A MANIAC IN FRONT OF A MEDIC FOR HIM TO HEAL ME.
@recoomedoom6117
Жыл бұрын
bro play skial or something 😭 don’t play with bots lol
@taurinebeast61
Жыл бұрын
@@recoomedoom6117skial servers are bullshit. They are moderated by literal babies.
@deadmeme8011
Жыл бұрын
Fucks sake bro just fucking buy something, it costs like two bucks to not be gatekept.
@TheMemeSheep_V2
Жыл бұрын
Yes, they need to give f2ps voice. #freethef2ps
@Katy133
Жыл бұрын
The issue is, what would stop bots and bot creators from spamming the mic in large numbers? The paywall helps prevent (but not totally stop) this problem, so Valve would need to find a method to separate human players from bots. A timer as you described is an idea, but can possibly be bypassed by bot makers.
@ZealotTF2
Жыл бұрын
They need to ban bots before 50 hours, it won't ever be perfect - there are mic-spamming premium bots currently.
@capnMAN
Жыл бұрын
So basically they need to fix the bot problem to fix the F2P problem! Marvelous! We have better chances of teleporting bread and it not being an alien!
@RAKESH-xw9xm
Жыл бұрын
so ?? f2p players should hav access to commands -- this is not up for discussion , tf2 has tons of new players and f2ps
@SuperGuy250
Жыл бұрын
Just make premium more expensive lol
@makryd3162
Жыл бұрын
@@capnMAN this wasn't alien, it was tumors
@Dokter9
Жыл бұрын
As a f2p see a spy destroy my sentry or my team and looking at medics or passing them while burning and having 25 hp not able to call them its painfull
@themorningboi
Жыл бұрын
I Think that a good idea would be a kick limit, if you get kicked from the game a certain amount of times under a certain time limit, you get temporarily banned, then if you surpass the limit again you get perma banned
@RedGoldDolfin-ez9iy
Жыл бұрын
But what if you get kicked by bots?
@spaceacepl4636
Жыл бұрын
mass reports galore
@themorningboi
Жыл бұрын
@@RedGoldDolfin-ez9iy That's why the time limit is there, you won't get kicked let's say... 10? 15 times in less than an hour or so. But a bot will
@themorningboi
Жыл бұрын
@@unaincreibleroca3427 that's still a victory, because they will need to respect the cool down
@Haruuki_H
Жыл бұрын
This is so bad that f2p cant even say something in chat, im f2p and there was a cheater in round, and i couldnt say that he is cheater
@toobad_sosad
Жыл бұрын
As a recent f2p, it sucked not being able to call for medic
@eliescobis9922
Жыл бұрын
i basically dropped tf2 for overwatch the moment i saw that i could not even call for medic or call for spy because at least overwatch does not hate it's players
@Tap11283
Жыл бұрын
idea : if the f2p has 1000 hours of playtime they can now use voice commands, chat, and voice chat
@idkwhattonamenguyen7034
Жыл бұрын
You don't how much trigger I am when I see a spy back stab my teammate
@civilsecuritylite12054
Жыл бұрын
Valve can still block the text chat but at the very least still allow F2p players to use voice commands to even interact with their teammates.
@FairPlayClubChads
Жыл бұрын
You are asking tf2 devs to change a small detail ... We gonna wait 3years for that Whos ready to wait?
@inknick2052
Жыл бұрын
Yea i agree but i dont think this will cause tf2 to die
@ZealotTF2
Жыл бұрын
Yeah there's this little thing KZitem has called "Clickthrough rate" that determines how often videos are recommended, so we're pretty much forced to clickbait. TF2 has a cult following, this won't kill it.
@EliteCameraBuddy
Жыл бұрын
@@ZealotTF2 yeah some peoole even span tags in the description to trick the youtube algorithm
@joer121
Жыл бұрын
As a f2p this is a good idea please do this I’m not spending money so I can CALL FOR HELP in a TEAM-BASED GAME
@molly_with_paws
Жыл бұрын
This will definitely fix it But knowing valve the next update is not coming out until the next protest
@kristen8481
Жыл бұрын
I just let them use every chat options in 1 hour
@Nafiur13
Жыл бұрын
You technically helped valve, valve wants to kill tf2 anyway game
@TorieTheLamb
Жыл бұрын
Frankly, I think valve.. doesn't care if TF2 dies out. I always had a feeling that they just blatantly hated the fact TF2 is still so popular, apposed to the newer/other games they've made, I feel like, they just don't care, the fact TF2 still managed to live this long is shocking,
@Defnotyeett
Жыл бұрын
Just give them text chat, but voicechat if they have premium.
@TheKingOfLust69420
Жыл бұрын
Now I can finally tell them to not kill the friendlys
@GCJACK83
Жыл бұрын
My thoughts: 50 hours unlocks voice commands. 100 hours unlocks text and mic chat. Spending at least $5.00 U.S in the Mann Co. Store unlocks all 3 right away.
@xmason8562
Жыл бұрын
We have the ability to call for a medic with e might be a different key but I think its e
@ZealotTF2
Жыл бұрын
Do you have z, x, c menus? They might've already fixed that point.
@xmason8562
Жыл бұрын
@@ZealotTF2 I don't know, I just got the game thursday or friday. I might be able to check tomorrow
@ZealotTF2
Жыл бұрын
@@xmason8562 Looked into this, I think they might've made a change so if you are a premium steam user (have added over $5 to your account), you get access to everything. Which is a good change, but doesn't necessarily solve the problem.
@JoshMario1364
Жыл бұрын
I thought the same thing the other day! This would be an incredible update since f2p players can at least call for a medic when they need it
@jag_rex2412
Жыл бұрын
Here's a bright idea how about just let free-to-play players have the ability to speak seeing as a majority of free-to-play games allow you to speak and TF2 is better than that.
@ZealotTF2
Жыл бұрын
If they completely got the bots under control sure, but the bots were spamming audio of CP for a while which is what caused this issue in the first place.
@daveseviltwin11
Жыл бұрын
making it stop after 50 hours would end the entire point because bots can get 50 hours of playtime in a couple days. at that point just remove the block entirely, which is what they should do
@beserk7136
Жыл бұрын
playing as a f2p on valve's servers is really unpleasant compared to community servers. we don't need much, the medic voice line is very good, maybe even the spy callout and the sentry ahead one as well. i understand it's been removed because bots kept spamming them but just a while ago i entered a server with about 4-5 bots that put random noises and earrape in vc as well as spamming voice lines. that's unfair considering that all the bot hoster had to do was to spend 20 bucks, 5 dollars each account...
@BonusQwack
Жыл бұрын
The 50 voice chat thing will just give the bots voice chat back because most bots i run into have over 200 hours so that will not help much +it will just make voice chat free for the bots which means no money for valve
@UltraxEmerald
Жыл бұрын
Just let them speak without restriction. Don’t lock their ability to speak behind a time gate.
@hamburbger428
Жыл бұрын
It’s also stupid that you need a in game purchase along with a general steam purchase i have spent about 250+ on games in steam and still can’t talk
@probes-e-minor
Жыл бұрын
As a bug, i am professionaly offended
@menacingpyro2005
Жыл бұрын
As someone who has many F2P pals who play on community servers so they can speak, I think this would be great so ppl who are new F2Ps can just talk after 50 hours, and they get a notification to tell them this upon booting up the game.
@GenericPhantom1
Жыл бұрын
I would be playing Casual 24/7 over Uncletopia and Skial if it wasn't for me not being able to talk
@broken_sword501
Жыл бұрын
its a good idea for 50 hours of playtime but the bots can wait in menu screen to reach 50 hours and it won't fully help since bots can still join matches and the playtime will still go up
@EliteCameraBuddy
Жыл бұрын
they have to delete the bits firat
@Random_Starr
Жыл бұрын
They just need to add a verification system and the problems solved
@yam5412
Жыл бұрын
Zealot you explain this so perfectly, and since i couldn't call out for med, i just play skial all day long after a while
@skree272
Жыл бұрын
I began playing tf2 after never being able to get a computer myself untill i was 20... It sucked, i died to spies that i couldnt call out, bots were atrocious and i ended up quitting the game...
@limehuzki
Жыл бұрын
Lol I thought this was one of those zero day vulnerabilities. I mean yeah it's slightly frustrating. But not essential
@jive5861
Жыл бұрын
i found a fix for this but you have to buy the orange box with tf2 in it to give people voice chat and stuff
@HeartyMC
Жыл бұрын
Theres sometimes some bots that have premium yes they can use voice chat spam voice lines and talk
@antoninoincontrera8014
Жыл бұрын
as an f2p that has over 282 hours in tf2 I totaly agree, this block on text chat and voice command is the main reason I prefer tf2 classic
@brad9808
Жыл бұрын
Good idea..hopefully valve will listen
@PileOfScrap
Жыл бұрын
Thats not a bug, just a bandaid on a missing leg
@fakhrymuhammad4612
Жыл бұрын
Really support this idea, since it sad when everyone happen fun moment in chat. Than you just do body language since you can't even talk to them
@DiNi4o2AydenGamer
Жыл бұрын
make voice have a paywall due to mic spam and this idea is perfect
@markusip
Жыл бұрын
I mean adding voicemenu back to f2p's should be pushed 100% but i seen bots with over 500 hours so i think it wont be the best idea
@leonardocupar7927
Жыл бұрын
As FP in TF2 I see this as Absolute win
@doctaterror
Жыл бұрын
I don't see how the 50 hours thing matters at all. Do you think bots don't have over 50 hours???
@Gman18
Жыл бұрын
It could be done, i have been F2P for a long time and finally got my premium stuff, it was cool to be able to talk to people again
@leoje1524
Жыл бұрын
I forgot f2ps couldn't even talk or chat lol
@groezelgeel2750
Жыл бұрын
That won't work because bots can just idle for 50 hours, and if the F2Ps make it to 50 hours with no talking, most of them are either OK with it or will have bought premium by then.
@theldapperapple2382
Жыл бұрын
I'm pretty sure tf2 can tell when you idle due to it not counting towards random drops and stuff.i could be wrong
@CoffeeIsG00d
Жыл бұрын
I feel like valve would make less money this way so I believe they would never do this, I wish they would tho
@gomango99
Жыл бұрын
Valve won’t because they earn more money this way.
@thundermtn845
Жыл бұрын
This is all my tf2 content rn bc my steam acccount got reported for scaming so I'm just waiting for steam to un vac-ban me
@CatGamer521
Жыл бұрын
Someone pitch this idea to valve
@tangoww
Жыл бұрын
sadly most bots in tf2 have much more than 50 hours in the game
@zhaiketoledo3658
Жыл бұрын
I'm still a f2p after a lng period of time when I couldn't talk and t just hurts not being able to thank or be thanked by the people you had fun with
@itwasme7869
Жыл бұрын
I have to remind you that most bots are free2play too so they will be more bots spamming voicechat and malicious links.
@rexquinones1456
Жыл бұрын
As a f2p I actually am no joking but I agree you see a team mate which is a f2p might need medics and to alert spy’s I actually think this is amazing thing to do
@donovanphillips6278
Жыл бұрын
Wait F2Ps can’t even use voice commands!? That’s dumb, valve should change that.
@cindrblok7948
Жыл бұрын
good argument. and good work having a more casual voice, coild still use some work tho.
@alface935
Жыл бұрын
50 hours? Make it 500 hours and We have a deal!
@lilchick27
Жыл бұрын
So a month of nonstop playing? I still haven't cracked 400
@alface935
Жыл бұрын
@@lilchick27 Yeah
@lilchick27
Жыл бұрын
@@alface935 at that point I'd quite playing
@alface935
Жыл бұрын
@@lilchick27 Oh
@isaiahenzo641
Жыл бұрын
So glad u are not a dev
@Samuelguerra763
Жыл бұрын
Bots have more than 50 hours for sure
@mpmcd8432
Жыл бұрын
I usually average 1-2 k/d. I have played for a while. Still can’t call for med
@der9759
Жыл бұрын
whats the track in the bg?
@Adir-Yosef
Жыл бұрын
wow this is somehow both reasonable and unreasonable just give F2P the ability to talk again period, doing otherwise is just a bad idea it's not like we are stopping anything because chat sabotage is still a thing with today's bots and voice chat spam still exists
@Algeanie3
Жыл бұрын
I was a f2p for the first two months or so of my tf2 time, it was awful, glad i spent precious dollary doos on the funny hat game
@OmicronOmega0
Жыл бұрын
*text communication is not available for this account*
@SpyGaming0226
Жыл бұрын
From a fellow f2p, this is an amazing idea!
@sabschatz
Жыл бұрын
its not a bug, but all f2ps can use voice commands
@ZealotTF2
Жыл бұрын
No, if you're a p2p steam user, you can use voice commands. So it's better than it used to be but not fixed in that regard.
@Haruuki_H
Жыл бұрын
only on community servers, you cant use voice commands, chat in casual
@lollermann
Жыл бұрын
Idea is debatable. Clickbait title is something I disapprove of. Have a bad day.
@eclipse_animations
Жыл бұрын
Just let f2ps with hard achievements earned to get premium accounts
@Terrormind8
Жыл бұрын
As a ftp i hope this becomes reality
@Red.001
Жыл бұрын
This actually makes sense
@AeromatterYT
Жыл бұрын
Just commenting to boost this in the algorithm, I have nothing else to add 🙌
@-_SZALK0_-
Жыл бұрын
#Letf2pchat ?
@mrjameshendry
Жыл бұрын
Agree. Bring back F2P chat
@voltex9157
Жыл бұрын
orrrrr , just give the f2p the old communication , cuz this new system is so bad and pointless
@theldapperapple2382
Жыл бұрын
I gst kicked from ganes as a snioer since im a f2p. I cant twll them im not a bot. I just have to shake my head at them and hope for mercy
@s_callahan
Жыл бұрын
the slop clickbaiting 😭
@asky-ne7yz
Жыл бұрын
clickbait but i massively agree
@zillorannusgaming
Жыл бұрын
i don't see anything wrong with this so this is a deff W
@b4ksti296
Жыл бұрын
Dude this is an Amazing Idea!
@cubicskull1916
Жыл бұрын
seems fair
@captaindeath9321
Жыл бұрын
I can only hope for f2p bc I have become a p2p 2 weeks ago (sorry for bad English)
@achu1912thebloxfruitplayer
Жыл бұрын
I am a F2P so I love this
@charliegunk
Жыл бұрын
“Bug”?
@HunterTF2stillhuntingforbacon
Жыл бұрын
Yeah, good idea valve Free the F2P
@HunterTF2stillhuntingforbacon
Жыл бұрын
And I don’t want team fortress 2 to die because it’s my favorite game
@pikator9153
Жыл бұрын
So this is not a bug
@ZealotTF2
Жыл бұрын
Yeah there's this little thing KZitem has called "Clickthrough rate" that determines how often videos are recommended, so we're pretty much forced to clickbait. Welcome to 2023.
@pikator9153
Жыл бұрын
@@ZealotTF2 i did not know about that "clickthought" thing and thanks for telling me that because it explain a lot of things i've seen on youtuber lately thx
@lukebickel9247
Жыл бұрын
Hey zealot I love your videos now, this is weird ig since I originally didn't like your stuff, but hell I've kinda fallen into your trap hah.
@andresf6625
Жыл бұрын
Premium f2ps lets go
@thehandyfamily806
Жыл бұрын
Thats not a bug...
@ZealotTF2
Жыл бұрын
Yeah there's this little thing KZitem has called "Clickthrough rate" that determines how often videos are recommended, so we're pretty much forced to clickbait. Welcome to 2023.
@the_apotecary_from_tf2
Жыл бұрын
Amazing idea
@TheKingofGames1001
Жыл бұрын
VSH crashing casual servers is a bug. The 100% Unusual drop rate that caused the crate depression was a bug. MVM robots getting stuck on level geometry getting airblasted in coal town and softlocking the match because they are out side of the killable area and are carrying a bomb is a bug. F2Ps not being able to chat... is NOT a bug... Valve did that to stop the free to play bots from flooding the chat. It is a problems for F2Ps but it is not a bug.
@ZealotTF2
Жыл бұрын
Yeah there's this little thing KZitem has called "Clickthrough rate" that determines how often videos are recommended, so we're pretty much forced to clickbait. Welcome to 2023.
@TheKingofGames1001
Жыл бұрын
@@ZealotTF2 No wait, there was that one thing with Seriamon getting muted because of it. Although I don't know if that particular bug was fixed or not.
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