I propose a "Full Band Friday" to demonstrate how these ideas sit in the mix
@ThatPedalShow
7 жыл бұрын
+geetarbube We really, really, really want to do this, and we currently have some ambitious plans to realise it. Bit of cash to raise and a whole new world of pain... but it's going to happen, er, hopefully this year. Cheers!
@fishypaw
7 жыл бұрын
Great idea. I hope it happens, and I'm curious as to who the band members will be. Hopefully the latter will be a pleasant surprise.
@DavidDyte1969
7 жыл бұрын
Marillion's a full band. Steve Rothery is a GigRig client. JUST SAYING.
@bryankraus5163
7 жыл бұрын
here here!
@Javier-qk7ms
7 жыл бұрын
I was asking the same and just noticed you asked about it too. That would be great.
@p1eces
7 жыл бұрын
"The Class 5 starts getting dirty at about 10 O'clock." Like your mum.
@ThatPedalShow
7 жыл бұрын
+p1eces Yeah baby!
@jep3305
7 жыл бұрын
Bravo, Guys! THIS is what really keeps me coming back to your show. Thanx, once again, for this extremely valuable discussion/instruction - keep up the good work and keep'em coming! J.
@nonahyobusiness8063
7 жыл бұрын
"Life too short for long KZitem videos?" LIFE CAN WAIT UNTIL I AM DONE WATCHING THE WHOLE VIDEO, dammit !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
@ThatPedalShow
7 жыл бұрын
+Nonah Yobusiness Well thank you. :0)
@herbertbeckmann7391
7 жыл бұрын
Couldn't tell it better! Haha!
@patrickcarroll1754
7 жыл бұрын
Mick always wears slightly darker jeans than Dan. I don't know why I noticed this. Great show this week!
@Pstaines439
7 жыл бұрын
Patrick Carroll a discussion on 'pants' between Dan and Mick would be fun....
@patrickcarroll1754
7 жыл бұрын
William Or who wears them in the relationship :)
@RemoteAbductionArm
7 жыл бұрын
The age-old question: Does pant color affect tone?
@CentaurusRelax314
7 жыл бұрын
You've unlocked it! It's how they send coded messages to Tom Hanks characters.
@A1pineclimber303
6 жыл бұрын
Always important to have your own tone. Especially with denim!
@michaelsaulnier5096
7 жыл бұрын
Dan's comments on recording his gig where he didn't turn up all night points out something I think is important. Almost every paid gig I've played in the last 20 years, my amp has been mic'd and the signal sent through the PA. So, sometimes when you step on a pedal and your sound "goes away" to your ears... through the PA is isn't necessarily the case... although on stage is often the worst place to know for sure. If you run back to your amp and turn it up... the sound guy reacts... now, the battle is on. we've gotten to the point where we make the sound guy a part of the band, make them come to rehearsals, know the songs, when to turn things up or down, etc.and I "trust" that even if I'm having a problem hearing my stage volume correctly, they're making sure the audience isn't having the same problem. It let's me choose all my settings for pedals and amp volume in rehearsal, and be confident they are working for live use. Great episode again guys! My favorite youtube channel!
@williamwagnon2809
7 жыл бұрын
As a sound guy, I couldn't agree more. Getting a good monitor mix can help, but it's tough if you don't have the budget for the equipment and a guy to take care of it.
@Aleph_Null_Audio
7 жыл бұрын
+1 Happy sound engineer = better tone Especially if the cab is mic'd, you don't want to pick a fight with the person that controls the master fader. You will always loose.
@richardmendez4071
7 жыл бұрын
This was a great topic. Not many people have discussed how to balance your different tones. One topic that I have read about was ear plugs for protecting ears during a gig or practice with a band. Not many people have talked about this. Hearing is a vital things for guitarist. Any recommendations or input on this would really help.
@ThatPedalShow
7 жыл бұрын
+Richard Mendez Hi Richard. Dan and I both hate in-ears and ear plugs in general. Perhaps we need to test ourselves to find some that we can live with! Thanks for watching.
@tylerjohnston7632
7 жыл бұрын
That Pedal Show I've played with wedges and in-ears, and I always hated in-ears and had to always take one out to get any feel or room ambiance. And then I started to play with two amps in stereo (or dual mono with different mic positioning) and split mics to my own mixer. In-ears now make sense, and super wide panned amps makes playing in a live setting really inspiring and fun again. I use Shure e315's. I'd love to dive into some JH Audio buds, but I'd also like another guitar soooooo ...
@andysolomon279
7 жыл бұрын
If you do that, I WILL be watching as i'm not a fan of in-ears or plugs at all. What? Pardon? Eh?
@philipvanpeborgh9273
7 жыл бұрын
I've been using earplugs since 1991 while playing and working at gigs I wasn't mixing. Absolutely saved my hearing. I run US operations for a German loudspeaker company and use earplugs at every demo I do and every flight I take. Since 1997 I've been wearing earplugs molded to my ears with a choice of level attenuation (-9db, -15db & -25db). They are the best compromise of protection vs comfort vs frequency response I have found. in-ears are great if you can rely on the close mic'd sound and/or mix in an ambient mic.
@thesphericalguy9018
7 жыл бұрын
Get some molded ones. It'll still feel funny the first times, but now it's perfectly fine and gig are actually more enjoyable
@alexsawyer7313
7 жыл бұрын
Mick, as an audio engineer I always appreciate when you correct "sound guy" to "engineer"
@theoryofmine7473
7 жыл бұрын
Ahh friday.
@douglaspark2396
7 жыл бұрын
If you are looking for guitarists with clean tones there is Richard Thompson. Certainly not uneffected, but often clean as a whistle. And a superlative guitarist. No one sounds like RT.
@heybuddy6794
4 жыл бұрын
Jeff Buckley plays crystal clean! And EJ on his twin twins (quadruplets?)
@luthiervandros
5 жыл бұрын
“Big Jim can take it”. That’s T-shirt quality.
@avantgardenovelist
2 жыл бұрын
lol
@kevinjohnbetts
7 жыл бұрын
Could someone invent a machine so I can warp the me of thirty-five years ago forward in time for about fifty minutes so he/I can watch this please?
@ripplebear
5 жыл бұрын
Sort of related, not quite clean and dirty balance, but... Jimmy Herring uses like 5 or 6 volume pedals to control mix in monitors of his band mates levels. Thought that was really cool! But I'm still struggling with the actual topic at hand. Thanks guys, still working it out!
@ryanholio
7 жыл бұрын
Even on holiday, I can't miss this. Watching from sunny corfu in a water park 😎
@Caged63Man
3 жыл бұрын
regardless of amp, guitar, band size, sound technician, room size..I always keep my guitars volume, floating around 5! You will always have that extra volume on tap!
@MrAxman53
5 жыл бұрын
38:50 Most important insight of the entire video if you're gigging! Something you have to experience, unless you learn about it on KZitem!
@danabnormal5892
7 жыл бұрын
Don't do a Kemper Video!!!! Ever!!!!!!! There's enough of that on KZitem already and it's not interesting
@ThatPedalShow
7 жыл бұрын
+dan abnormal We love you.
@juanmartinreborati7928
7 жыл бұрын
That Pedal Show hahahahah
@JamesRussoMillas
7 жыл бұрын
It's interesting but we all know it's not going to change anyone's mind. We love TPS because they get kickass sounds out of classic amps like Big Jim. A Kemper/AFX vid isn't going to tell us anything we don't already know.
@JohnsDough1918
7 жыл бұрын
"We love you." Maybe code speak for: no Kemper video, Kemper fans.
@hawg427
7 жыл бұрын
I love my powered Kemper but I like my other 5 tube amps also.
@hoboroadie4623
5 ай бұрын
Once I discovered countersteering, I was dropping my RD400 Yamaha into the corners like Mike Hailwood, and it so unnerved two of my buddies that they stopped riding with me, stating that they didn't want to be there to witness my imminent demise. True story.
@ollies246
7 жыл бұрын
I'd love to see more episodes that entirely focus on one classic amp like the hot rod deluxe episode. A twin reverb episode would be great
@Terryomalleyonline
7 жыл бұрын
Where possible I use 2 amps at once. One clean the other dirty. I also ride the volume on the guitar. Dirt is like bourbon, best served in moderation. Great insights today from you both.
@ArticulateGuitar
7 жыл бұрын
Y'all, there aren't that many channels that are consistently raising the bar on their content value like yours. This was absolutely brilliant. You're like the Bill Nye The Science Guy(s) of this stuff. Rich in info, but delivered so everyone watching want to hang out with you after the video's over. So good.
@ThatPedalShow
7 жыл бұрын
+Articulate Guitar ah man, that's so nice, thank you :)
@ArticulateGuitar
7 жыл бұрын
You're welcome! Cheers!
@OttoBillstrom
7 жыл бұрын
This is great! This is something which I feel many of my fellow bedroom noodlers might face in terms of balancing gain contra clean sounds :) Thanks for making these vidd guys! I for one really feel my playing and tonal understanding develop every week!
Love the show, guys! Could you do an episode on dialing in amplifiers for best pedal interaction? Cheers!
@cgmxtreme70
7 жыл бұрын
Every time I watch you guys I think ," Would I rather be able to play like Dan or Mick ?" The answer is always , both !! Great video and very helpful. (By the way, I use a DOD Preamp 250 as my always on pedal )
@ThatPedalShow
7 жыл бұрын
+Chris Munro ah, cheers mate, that's very kind. Yeah, the old DOD pedals are fantastic
@adamosloizou538
6 жыл бұрын
Great show and episode Dan & Mick, keep up the amazing work! An idea for an episode: Could you shed some light on comparing the distortion produced by overdriving pre-amp vs power-amp. A lot of guys comment about the smoother/more melodic quality of a power-amp-generated distortion with the caveat of needing to crank up your amp to get the power tubes to that point. In contrast, pre-amp is expected to be harsher. It would also be great if you could show how one can achieve that power-amp distortion with different types of amps, especially small amps and even Class A amps. I have a THD Univalve and have been meaning to experiment with it for a while now. Thank you so much!
@arcosparteplaneta7648
6 жыл бұрын
Hi, i'm watching from argentina. I've watch every vídeo, and i've learned a lot. I'm always talking to my friends about the show and I have one petition to you. I think it would be great if you can get translation on every video. It would open a world of info to a lot of spanish talking people and also mean new suscribers. Thanks for all you give.
@ThatPedalShow
6 жыл бұрын
+Arcos Parteplaneta thank you, but we have no idea how that would work, could be fun though ;)
@earplugs2024
6 жыл бұрын
I can't believe that 2 (English!) people who talk about "crystal clean" tone do not think about M. Knopfler and keep run back to the Mayer thing. You guys have a home made clean tone absolute genius less than 2 hours away from your booth
@ThatPedalShow
6 жыл бұрын
Love Knopfler, lovely tones. But I don’t care if he’s British or anything else. Dan is Australian, by the way. :0)
@bankersbanker7301
3 жыл бұрын
George Harrison wrote "Here Comes the Sun" while sitting in an English garden with his mate, Eric Clapton. They weren't drinking tea, though.
@ThatPedalShow
3 жыл бұрын
Ha!
@martino250570
7 жыл бұрын
OK, I'm going to have to watch this again because I really did not understand it...
@BravoColl
7 жыл бұрын
Thank god I'm not the only one! I loved the show as always, but struggled so much with the concept of some of it.
@lvpg2943
7 жыл бұрын
They did seem to take the "rural" route to get from point A to point B. :-) Great show none the less.
@christopherhamm1574
7 жыл бұрын
Martin Allcock these guys are sooo good! Lots of information to soak up. Like many great movies, you pick up on other things and hear greater detail by watching them more than once.
@onewiththings
7 жыл бұрын
= the big amp is louder than the little amp.
@Pstaines439
7 жыл бұрын
Christopher Hamm, nice. Did the baddies die and Dan and Mick lived happily ever after?
@Piplodocus
7 жыл бұрын
Damn, I must have got very carried away with the election: I've been on the internet loads the last 24hrs and forgot there was a new TPS show out! Unheard of! :D
@HarryAndAGuitar
7 жыл бұрын
Not missed one of these for well over a year now, LOVE IT
@fishypaw
7 жыл бұрын
Oh goody, new That Pedal Show video, it must be Friday then. :0)
@DoomedDawn
7 жыл бұрын
This was a good subject, thanks you for this. How about subject on a similar vain. Swapping guitars and maintaining volume levels. Like going from Tele to Lp to SG. The output level changes and thus the volume and gain. Or should I just buy 3to1 by Dan's Gigrig? Although I don't need 3 inputs, 1 or two would be enough but with saved preset levels for each axe... Is there any other option to achieve this?
@ThatPedalShow
7 жыл бұрын
+DoomedDawn It's really interesting, and people go about it in different ways. For me (Mick here) my stuff is set to make the guitars do their own thing, so the level differences are desirable. Or just use a different combination of pedals. 321 is a great if you want to actively balance levels, or if you have something like G2 you can simply program different patches for different guitars using the Pre and post gain functions. Hope that helps!
@DoomedDawn
7 жыл бұрын
That Pedal Show Yep, that helped a bit. This is just a complaint of lazy modern day guitarist. I'm keen in tinkering tones and such but want to have them saved and hate doing adjustments mid bandpractice or gig. Maybe I just need to embrace the differences between guitars. I love different axes for different things but I need to get my head around the output differences. G2 would be cool but overshoot for my needs. Thank you for the reply...
@carstenlebeck4032
7 жыл бұрын
Great show! I have the exact same big Jim setup (4x12 greenbacks and all). I have tried two different compressors and found that both sounded very boomy with that rig (even playing a strat). Have you found the same? Or maybe I'm using the wrong pedals. I will try the BD2 trick for limiting, but I do like a compressed clean sound, just can't seem to get it to work with the big Jim rig. Any advice highly appreciated. Thanks!
@abramtreadwell722
7 жыл бұрын
Great video! Headroom plays such a large part in this and you did a good job of explaining this. I leave a katana always on before my drives, and match the katana volume to my OD808, then match my harlot and cali76 to that volume. The reason I do it in this order is because the tube screamer dictates the level because it pushes the amp. since I need to set it much higher to sound good (because it pushes the amp) I'd get a volume drop if I turn it off. All of the other pedals are fairly forgiving when I comes to volume unity. plus, everything just sounds better with a katana before it. So the katana is my new "unity volume" clean sound." I don't like the cali76 at the end to control levels because I feel that it takes something away when trying to drive my amp with the tube screamer. I use a one channel studio pro 35 and jeep it clean. I've done this for years and it works very well. and since the boost is on before my other drives, it doesn't make it any louder (bc of the lack of headroom). I think OD sound a little louder than clean anyway for the reasons you mentioned. for solos I use a ge7, boost mids, cut lows, boost volume.
@Strat642001
9 ай бұрын
All time favorite episode for me. Answered some questions and found the process/demonstrations really engrossing. Well done gents, well done!
@michaelteller5795
7 жыл бұрын
I would love to see a video about pick attack and transient response of different amps and pedals. I have noticed that sometimes I feel like my fingers are working harder with certain amps and certain pedal combinations and I haven't understood it. How do different amps and pedals affect not just the tone but the feel of playing?
@robdavis9711
Жыл бұрын
BD-2 chapter about 20:20, “Limiting rather than compressing.” Love this. One little thing said so nonchalant, but a huge concept. Awesome as always, thank you D&M.
@CaptPostmod
7 жыл бұрын
What I was hearing here is that a solid state preamp into a tube power amp beats a tube preamp for control and stability. Admittedly, I've long believed that anyway, but that's what I see here. On Big Jim, you've got the high watt preamp set clean and the preamp work is really done by the solid-state pedals. Whereas Little Jim doesn't have enough headroom in the preamp to more or less play through it "transparently."
@boojbah1
7 жыл бұрын
Hellecasters' Menage: The Beak/The Claw...LOVE IT!!! Continue to enjoy the shows; keep up the great work! jimmy
@northof50now
7 жыл бұрын
Spot on about the motorcycle riding. Most people don't even realizing it when they're riding. :-)
@sullivankingston7505
Жыл бұрын
My real struggle.. dynamic and drive 😅
@sirchtheworld
6 жыл бұрын
John Cipollina had a crystalline, ringing, spiky sound with tremendous dynamic range. For that exact reason (the dynamics), it turned out to be impossible to record him with any degree of fidelity. No one who didn’t actually hear JC play through his unique rig could really imagine what it sounded like.
@nickjadamson
7 жыл бұрын
Great topic guys I agree you can't cover this one enough! Full band Friday to demo would be great, plus the chance to hear something other than the usual pub band standards.
@PaisleyWilde
7 жыл бұрын
Ahhh that point of using an always on to make your higher wattage amp behave like a lower wattage amp was so on point. That is exactly what I do.
@tunaXonXtoast
7 жыл бұрын
You should do an "always on pedal", show.
@gigajo88
7 жыл бұрын
One of the best, if not the best episode, because it answered so many of the questions I'm dealing with week in week out. Thank you so much!
@halo13ification
7 жыл бұрын
strat middle pickup?... on its own??... thats just crazy talk
@ThatPedalShow
7 жыл бұрын
+nik teague Yeah, some people do it apparently. ?!?!
@mattburdock1734
7 жыл бұрын
That Pedal Show Works pretty well for KWS ;-) Thanks for this episode guys, really really helpful.
@haakman123
7 жыл бұрын
I do, a lot!
@fletches4084
7 жыл бұрын
Gilmour on Echoes Live in Gdansk. Just as an example of course. Has its uses it seems.....
@BrockBarr
7 жыл бұрын
wasn't this Jimi's default position?
@franknguitars7671
7 жыл бұрын
This one, I am afraid, I did not get too much out of. I guess: 1) headroom: if I increase the input signal from A to B by a) digging harder, b) using a clean boost, c) cranking my volume knob, or d) using hotter pickups, the output (db wise) is going to increase proportionally if I am using a clean amp but less to nothing if I am using a distorted amp (but the gain structure will change of course). That seems obvious since distortion comes with compression. 2) mid frequencies. In a band setting, only mid frequencies will be prominently heard. Hence, one will have to set the mids on whatever device one is using higher than what sounds good in the bedroom. This was mentioned but was not really clear IMHO. Empirically, I found this a million times, trying to take my beloved bedroom sounds to the rehearsal room. 3) compression: on clean sounds it is necessary to be heard but on distorted soinds it is counter productive??! I did not get that?! I still do not understand why your J Rockett Dude drowned out in a band setting? It should be pretty mid heavy ... sorry, i did not understand what you were conveying here?! .. then there is perceived vs real volume and it starts to get quite complex ... (I am like you Mick - it needs a certain volume for it to sound good to me). ... I guess on stage one can use a small mic'ed amp and get the necessary volume to hear oneself through the stage monitors, no? Cheers guys, keep up the nice work!
@TheVigilantStewards
7 жыл бұрын
Just curious... when you guys get amps do you tear them apart and replace the tubes, transformers, speakers, and do circuit mods? I always like to play a game with guitarists in the audience after a show to see who can guess what kind of amp I'm playing through from 10 feet away because it's so alien to what I bought from Guitar Center haha (did my own wood stain art on hand built pine cabs... taking a combo to a 2x10 ceramic 1x12 alnico head stack).... I wondered how many people feel the need to rebuild an amp when they buy it from say Fender, Marshall, Vox or a builder that won't let you spec it out.
@verdena87
7 жыл бұрын
Probably my favourite episode ever. Great show guys!!
@TheVigilantStewards
7 жыл бұрын
Did you say the middle pickup is neither Arthur nor Martha? Haven't heard that one before, what does that mean? It's too middle of the ground/compromised/lukewarm? Is that a British phrase? I've heard "it is the overdrive for your clean sound" so many times now I say it along when I know it's coming up haha. Love the bits of humor sprinkled into such great content.
@andysolomon279
7 жыл бұрын
Yep - Play before sound check, think "Holy Moly, that's loud"...drummer starts...end up turning up!!!! Also, my Victory V100 - the clean channel has to be set WAY louder then the drive channel to achieve parity in levels when playing live...........
@clayheinzerling1852
7 жыл бұрын
Guys I love this channel but there are way too many overdrive vids. We still need harmonic trem, oil can delays, different stages of phasing, wah sounds part 2, tonebender type fuzz, Octavia type fuzz, superfuzz type fuzz FF type fuzz, and envelope filter/ auto-wahs. Also it might be hard to do a whole vid on but sub-octave fuzz? Anyways thanks, and now I'm off to be my TPS shirt
@chrisbailey556
7 жыл бұрын
Clay Heinzerling There will never be too many overdrive videos
@michaelpayne8337
7 жыл бұрын
So...on small amps, OD's as dynamic eq devices, above unity gain/volume, and below the low headroom ceiling? After certain past videos I began messing with a compressor and eq only into a PRRI, and it seems easier to retain "tone" as the volume increases with those vs OD's. I would be interested to hear you guy compare a Boss CPX1 compressor to some others. Unless I want a tweed sound, an eq, a compressor and boost can sound great through a PRRI at any setting without running into the ceiling, so to speak. As you show in this video, OD's into small amps....Crazy Horse.
@rj_connor3779
7 жыл бұрын
Mick, what you said about Fuzz is exactly what I've experienced. On it's own... massive. But, in a band context, it's gone. The only thing that sort of works for me is my Octavia with an light overdrive after it. But that doesn't seem to work for chords/rhythm. I don't want to give up on Fuzz, but it's so frustrating to kick it in and lose everything. I've went through 4 fuzz pedals but maybe I need an EQ. Any suggestions?
@pterantula
7 жыл бұрын
(..... My metal band could totally have used 50w single-channel amps, but the drummer was SO LOUD, we had to use 120 watters with multiple cabs. He was physically huge, his drums were physically huge, and there was just no avoiding it....)
@TheVigilantStewards
7 жыл бұрын
Didn't know fuzzes had a mid scoop... does that mean a vintage germanium fuzz goes better with a Marshall than a Fender or Vox?
@fossilmatic
7 жыл бұрын
35.20 someone who uses huge clean transients to jump out the lead: try Mike Bloomfield live with a Fender Twin. Or Maybe Rory Gallagher on the 74 Irish Tour. No one plays like that anymore. Very aggressive. Actually, these days possibly Brian Setzer too.
@lancasterkb7266
7 жыл бұрын
Hi guys, checkout Vick Audio guitar effects, I think That They offer some pretty good stuff for a price that can kill competition (I bought a 73 ram's head from Mike (the owner) and you can compare it to a Cornish but for like 130$...
@CNCTEMATIC
7 жыл бұрын
Sometimes you don't want "Arthur or Martha" on the Strat, IMHO. Bridge is too sharp, neck not sharp enough. If you really want to nail the Voodoo Chile (Slight Return) tone for example, you need fuzz on that middle pickup.
@OriginEffectsUK
7 жыл бұрын
Great video as always fellas!
@tricko2286
7 жыл бұрын
Great video as always guys but please don't say "I like that"... say "I like the Class 5" .... saying "that" is really hard to follow... It was sort of a hard to follow discussion anyway but not knowing exactly what was going into what made it that much harder ... great topic though.
@chrishunter9256
7 жыл бұрын
so I play in a small church stage, and constantly battle with the increase for solos, and leads, and just to be heard sometimes.. . yet never wanting to be over the top.. I've heard you guys mention the less is more, and eq, eq, eq.. to get there... yet I don't think I ever really "got it" till now... lol.... anyways, is there a quick way to figure out how to be heard in a solo, when your in the moment?..... I don't usually get much of a chance to practice those moments beforehand...... love you guys for all the wisdom that you share with us !
@Piedscooter1
7 жыл бұрын
Best show yet, gentlemen. Use Dan first before Mick on your D&M pedals folks, if your need more cut through. Great advice on simultaneously using two amps of different wattage.
@jadonbull1601
7 жыл бұрын
Can you guys compare the KOT and Brothers? Both very versatile dual stage drives! Don't know if the midi capabilities makes the Brothers outshine it.
@petergraham9267
4 жыл бұрын
Nice one Dan! 16:25 “ so when I dig in with the Page on.......” and then plays the gentlest passage all video 😜🤣 EXACTLY the sort of thing I do all the time...........🙄🤪
@groundzerro
7 жыл бұрын
Hey guys wish you could do more with these new amp/pre amps that are appearing on pedal boards lately. Seems like the new development and rage is to use the nano amps and plugging them into a cab. I am a bit confused as to how good they sound and if they are a viable replacement for amp heads and combinations. How are these new variable watt amps sounding and preforming? (1 watt into 100watts.)
@sarahwaters1103
6 жыл бұрын
are you guys-dan going to ever get an ac30 top boost? . . just for some pedals! . . then switch back during a video or switch amps from "a show to show" etc.
@pterantula
7 жыл бұрын
Counter-steering is essential, but it does become totally intuitive; you just slightly push with the arm on the side you're turning toward. Physics, baby!
@kevinlocke6120
7 жыл бұрын
Stick a volume pedal in the fx loop problem solved.
@jeddak
7 жыл бұрын
TL;DW: for maximum versatility, get a 50 watt tube power amp, an amp-like overdrive, and a compressor.
@johncuster3833
7 жыл бұрын
Your new D&M pedal being used on tour: Premier Guitars Rig Rundown: Hall & Oates’ John Oates and Shane Theriot
@Pstaines439
7 жыл бұрын
Shit. I thought all I needed was my Fender champ, but now I realise why a Hot Rod makes much more sense, like the one I sold as it was too loud.,,,
@quibster
7 жыл бұрын
The approach at 16:15 is the one I most commonly use, I try to find a balanced clean/crunch breakup sound for my lower output pickups with the volume knob on the guitar at 7 or 8. Except I will dial all the way up to lead levels of gain in the preamp, those 2 or 3 notches of volume I spared earlier on my guitar pot are the 'lead sound' area. I generally use the amp for all of my drive sounds so this is how I will generally set up amps. Last one I used that wasn't mine was a Mesa Mk3, I was riding the gain at around 8/10, brutal drive. Cleans up beautifully from nothing other than turning the volume down on your guitar.
@ThatPedalShow
7 жыл бұрын
+iNfx1 That's great when it works for you, happy days! I had a MkIII (Mick here) in my early days. Killer amp!
@quibster
7 жыл бұрын
Yeah, beauty! Though, little bit of sticky/resistive pot syndrome, which is especially annoying for Mesa level tweakery. I have a Mesa V-Twin Mk1 at home, can't afford my own Mesa, but that pedal is absolutely one of those heavy duty valve preamp beasts that hovers in the £180-250 zone (have you guys ever had one on the show?) Goes nicely into the FX return of my little Ibanez 15W 112 for home noodles and small gigs. Breathing Mesa lately! Great stuff!
@briankingsley8744
7 жыл бұрын
I'd like to see a cheap pedal board challenge, the winner decided by viewer vote, and the loser has to play a really embarrassing guitar for an episode.
@marcogallerin4568
7 жыл бұрын
Really hoping to see a video on the blackout effectors whetstone phaser v1 vs v2!!! Please...
@phoenixbt
7 жыл бұрын
Love hearing the different combos on Big Jim vs. Little Jim! Really helpful info/techniques when moving out of the bedroom into different environments/setups as well. On the subject of amps, any chance of doing a quick video on the Two Rock SP35? I can't find one to try around here locally and would love to get some more info/specific sounds from the one you guys use. Thanks for the great content as always :)
@ThatPedalShow
7 жыл бұрын
+Brian Tobia Ahhhhh. I'm in the process of moving it on (Mick here) to fund my Classic Reverb Signature. We've used it in quite a few shows. I'll just say that it's the best guitar amplifier I have ever owned if you like big, bold clean tones, moving into strong-mid type light OD. Best loop I've ever had too and the best reverb. Some people don't love the strength and immediacy of the Two Rock sound, compared to Blackface Fender which is usually a little softer in the mids and flubs out on the bass more quickly. But honestly, if I could only keep one of my amps, it would be that over everything else. Hope that helps.
@phoenixbt
7 жыл бұрын
Ahh bummer, should have asked sooner :) That helps a ton though, thank you so much! I've loved it on every episode you guys have recorded with it. The reverb is unreal and I love the cleans you get out of it. Sounds like a great pairing for pedals too with the loop (which is what I'm looking for). How do you find it compared to the classic reverb signature? Big difference or what really stands out when moving up to that model?
@stephanbijl8628
7 жыл бұрын
would love to see a topic about attenuators vs pedals etc etc.
@misterknightowlandco
7 жыл бұрын
Did you guys see on Premier Guitars rig rundown of hall and oates that the second guitarist uses your D&M pedal?
@ThatPedalShow
7 жыл бұрын
+T.R. Bowen yeah, we're both delighted :)
@Jonnyrock87
7 жыл бұрын
It is cool, but he put tape over your faces. Not cool hahaha
@JimmyWatfordGuitar
3 жыл бұрын
So. . . we sit around talking about how to make the major scale better. . . . Lol, good enough. Love you all.
@WillBrahm
3 жыл бұрын
I use a volume pedal to even out the disparities between clean and distorted sounds. The volume pedal is a key component for on the fly “mixing.” Would love to hear you guys talk about volume pedal incorporation! Cheers
@mads1454
7 жыл бұрын
I just hope that one day ill get to a stage where I understand everything you´re saying! :))) still insanely good content though!
@ThatPedalShow
7 жыл бұрын
+Mads Heimdal Henriksen Me too Mads! (Mick here). Thanks for watching!
@TheVigilantStewards
7 жыл бұрын
Only 28:00 in but this is a very helpful episode, I dig it!! Edit: Quotable moment from this episode "No! Behave yourself Steinhardt." :) :)
@guitardudeguy3139
7 жыл бұрын
Awesome video guys..these types of situations happen to me all the time..Depending on room , audience noise, band mates etc. You really don't get an actual "sound check" until the show begins..takes a couple songs for everyone involved to get used to the volume and properly adjust accordingly..which at times can be difficult at times..I guess making sure you have a "Big Jim" or a loud enough amp with a good amount of headroom to play with makes it easier. Thanks again guys, really love your show!
@JimmyDevere
6 жыл бұрын
You should leave the SPL meter on the board at all times: it really helps in all your videos to know what level a particular amp/pedal/PU is having on sound levels. You probably won't have as many questions as to whether this or that is appropriate for bedroom, small club, halls etc. etc. Thanks and great shows!
@trym1nator
7 жыл бұрын
So i recently bought me a smexy marshall bigboy head(its the 30th anniversary something or other.). Unfortunately it is without reverb, so my sound is as dry as something very dry. I see you guys using the super smexy sounding, and expensive, strymon pedals and such. would you recommend investing in those, and/or what other delay/reverb pedals should one look at.
@bmcash3411
7 жыл бұрын
trym1nator hall of fame reverb is great
@mikes062
7 жыл бұрын
trym1nator the mxr they're using in this video is really nice, and uses an expression pedal too that you can set minimum and max settings to go between with.
@jazzmasternovo
7 жыл бұрын
Hi folks ok, this video is important. I've watched this a few times as had some aha, eureka moments about controlling/setting amp to just clipping for dynamic control but ALSO clean dynamics using a buffered drive like a klon for clean tones. Makes sense, especially when rolling back the volume -- the buffer keeps the sparkle!! So, question - I like to use the buffer a parametric EQ pedal (Old Fromel Shape), which I like to use as mid boost. Would the EQ compress in a similar fashion? I feel a pedalboard re-design is due.... EDIT: I mean limit, rather than compress. Would a buffered para EQ pedal limit like a Tumnus or Klon? Would it catch those transients? If I had a G2, rather than my current multi-pedal switcher I could check fairly quickly.!! mmm g2
@mootsym
6 жыл бұрын
a highly educational video. much appreciated. I'd be curious for a video on speaker cabinets- for example- big Jim into a 4x12, 2x12 and 1x12 cabinet, ideally the same wood, definitely the same speaker of a similar year. 1 mic on 1 speaker for each cab. Curious just how different that mic'd speaker would sound between the 3 cabinets, at all levels of clean-drive. I know 4x12s have more bass because of.. more.. room in the cabinet to push more air? But as far as recording 1 speaker out of the 4, or 2, or 1, how different it would really sound. Also curious how different a 1x12 vs 2x12 arrangement would sound. We're so used to 4x12 vs 1x12.
@Pstaines439
7 жыл бұрын
What did I learn? Earplugs are the cheapest way to tune-up the band's van.
@ForViewingOnly
7 жыл бұрын
Dan, Mick, on a really similar topic, can you comment on balancing levels and dynamics when using a HSS pickup configuration. I'm struggling a bit with the extra output from the humbucker on clean sounds: should I just use a compressor for clean? As expected, the levels are better balanced when kicking in a drive pedal... but then the humbucker is more squashed and the single coils more dynamic. I'd like to try taking just a single HSS guitar to a gig instead of two or more different axes :) Thanks.
@kelvinsmyth8365
3 жыл бұрын
Ummmm.....a lot of the volume discrepancy can be fixed on the amp.
@PerroConBufanda
3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing all your knowledge ❤ Greetings from Chile
@scojostudio1237
6 жыл бұрын
Hey gents a real warm salute... and with happy, happy clapping hands abound... Exciting collab on your new D&M DRIVE pedal- it was just what I’ve been trying to find for when I find/stream sound samples wanting the audio material to be as dynamic and with a depth of substance so I can further my scope and reach in terms of what I can work with. The D&D lets me round out with accurate dynamics so any clip is 9 times out of 10 fair game. I had thought samples and headaches where synonymous but alas I guess not. This pedal got me out of the jam of haven found some great, really cool sample but begrudgingly couldn’t work it in because dynamically the source’s sound quality was just not, well, it was’t quite sound. The D&M pedal fixes up my samples. Coming from an array of original sources - some streaming on KZitem, for example which had been recorded on a tape deck fifty years ago all the way to a download from archive.org of a mid-range flat wav file from last weeks’ world news desk - both sources/samples can now co-exist together now with the confidence of quality and dynamics at one’s side. This opens up my creative process which now I consider your pedal up there creatively as a favorite delay or a ring mod which I usually use after the D&D. So with some snak attack skills you’ve found your way right justified on my board. Dig the orange looks good with that four letter M word synonymous with ring mod/synth heads abound. After thinking on what and how the D&D effects my creative process (get it, effects, haha), ok well after some thinking it calls to mind a talking point on a musician today and the speed at which we produce music and a little idea to help along the way can be a “for example” in which the reason for me posting this thanks and kudos may be of some use. If a pedal can make for today’s musician who has a globally rich set of stylings to make all their own - if a pedal can make for today’s musician who has a deeply plush line of artists and artistic works so to respectively make part of their makeup than as the world is teaming with those bonded by musical love and musical creation than something that can connect these illustrious dots as sources sample to sourced sample, mixed looped, fixed in time for the next step - and many people indeed I see are connecting such dots... than that, this is exciting - is the potential for something totally awesome to happen! The mind swims about and around the ways musician’s are interwoven with each other in a global community and each of us all carry respectfully parts and people diving downward through musical history into a excited force where making music is an act of blurring the lines - some of our best jams we say that a kind of jazzy thing, other musician chums in, yeah and with some blues, and yeah back to first revealer, fusion? A laugh is cast out as a expunged release of the band’s shared unknowingness for a label. It’s places along the way where we dscover music. Such is the thing that gets me out of bed. I had a friend who would fall in love with guitars. After my third delay and ring oscillator and first real great reverb, I get his lament as something real. They are alive like the D&D. And for the remaining rant of this post I’ll hit upon today’s musician and the creative space and such we all share. Thankful guys for a channel where a little write up on music making today can find its place somewhere other than a blog. I think any comments upon comments and so on come to our attention if anyone has ideas on this or something else. Very cool how my interest in pedals has me as an active viewer here to find they made with in collaboration a totally needed music pedal mussing on the market and in some small way, helped my aesthetics in how the pedal has cast light into a aspect of music creation which will unitedly lead me back to a topic on THUS channel as a new leaning into my process manifest in me telling my studio partner, hey I need that analogman pedal there, yeah... haha Another notable perk for those on the fence for picking up the D&D is if but one reason: WE ALL make music faster than anytime ever before, period. And this kind of tool is key to living with a value for choice musicality. And not just commercial and pro or old and phony stuff here at all. It just boiled down to that one thing we just love so much: music. A music that is flushed out, creatively speaking, is going to be in one form, maybe ten ways, well, it will be dynamic. If my new album seems to be asking me, “what’s the release date again?” before I’ve picked up my drum sticks then I must be a musician maker today. If after last nights set I opened a document file on my iPad, making notes some clear, some not so far of a theme for an album... a few images collages and tied in part by a photo placed in, wondering, “I bet this’d look good on a 7inch.” A few searches and its priced out, a few songs unplaced that may work - tomorrow we start on the 7inch... must be making music today, in this world of ours. Bring it to the band and finances, hell a schedule for production could be mapped out, like how they used to at Columbia Studios - for the surprise of discovery let’s just finish by March though in line with Columbia is something maybe. If it is churning, casting, caught air under wing so fast it defies bpm, we’ll make note at next take when we look down. Onward today we go... So with my process as I approach my music making - I make an array of source audio samples uniform sending them through this little dynamic box with these two guy’s mugs on it! I. An rest assured knowing the quality is there. I can restaurant it will be there tomorrow. And I can rest assure that years from now the dust of time will settle on such loops-of-sampling’s will smile back at me with the same glimmer and spark as yesterday. The line is blurry between stage and studio so make that mid-set, smoke-drenched jam crawl out the pocket of your rhythms jacket titled, its the album track, track just as strange and sweetly so it sleeps between tomorrow’s new release so your song’s restful, recharge, renewing your listener, soul drenched laugh, belly, blue blistering awesome, songs singing so softly, soft so silent so can to their slow sweet way renew well crafted, attenuated eardrums dropped in gray and with depth of heart so that you wake up as their dream and you wake up as there’s. As always, always all the time, cook with optimal ingredients. And, put your best foot forward, but don’t trip.
@denmar355
7 жыл бұрын
Headroom. = Going from a Vox AC4C1 to a Mesa 5:50 Exp+ I find that a BB Pre always on does what you described. Its always better to have your sound progress somewhat "naturally" to bloom into an obvious related sound rather than this whole new different kind of sound/over-gained squashed madness that happens with compressed OD. Deep and endless subject that might be demonstrated well if you guys had a band in house. But maybe with a track to play along with. Great subject.
@ThatPedalShow
7 жыл бұрын
+Denis M Cheers Denis. We're discussing the band thing.... but we need a bigger boat! It will happen... :0)
@Joe_Maysky
6 жыл бұрын
Hey Guys, Been a fan of the show for a while but it's my first time commenting as I was an acoustic player for 11 years and just got my first electric (SG Junior). I love all of your shows and learn something from each one, but this one's particularly applicable to me as you do a lot of rhythm playing demos which is largely what I do as a singer-songwriter who starts on the acoustic and beefs up his songs later, and the different ways to achieve a very palatable rhythm crunch tone depending on what amp you're going through is fascinating--and I learn very easily what's too loud/overkill, lol. Thanks again for catering to noobs and vets alike.
@9418matthew
7 жыл бұрын
Great video guys...I have an 18w hand wired amp. At my last rehearsal (with another guitarist) I started with my les Paul. At times I couldn't hear my solos. I broke a string and was forced to use my Strat and without changing anything I could hear my solos...must be frequency right? I was baffled cause my les Paul is so much more powerful 🎸
@ThatPedalShow
7 жыл бұрын
+Matthew Hunt Frequencies, directly related to power. So, the LP has a lot of low mid and bottom end. And it's more 'powerful' as you say. Two things are happening. First, the preamp is saturating more because it's being hit with humbuckers. Second, the power amp is being asked to make a lot of low mid and bass, so it's working really hard and... compressing. The Strat takes the pressure off both Pre and power sections. Ergo, more clarity at a presumably similar volumes. If you want the LP to sound clearer, cut the bass and boost the upper mids, and drop the gain a bit too if you can. Cheers!
@jimmyjams1974
6 жыл бұрын
+That Pedal Show how does this type of approach, David Grissom’s approach to a single channel amp and say using a mark v 25 compare in a live environment? I ask because sometimes I have to fly and use a backline amp but my personal amp is a mark v 25. I often find it tough to switch between those two types of rigs (my personal vs what I have to rent)
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