Bro is gonna discover the anti-life equation at this rate. 💀
@alexanderespinoza
Жыл бұрын
IN melee
@height5558
Жыл бұрын
There will never be a 13th faulty mechanic in melee
@diodora2381
Жыл бұрын
Uh oh spaghettio
@height5558
Жыл бұрын
Update: there is a 13th faulty mechanic named at the end of the video
@medea6341
Жыл бұрын
*guy spitting out cereal*
@zachstarattack7320
Жыл бұрын
saddness
@RizztarSpeedruns
Жыл бұрын
my 13 reasons why
@houndsol
Жыл бұрын
LMAO POLLING LOSES CONTACT WITH THE WALL
@lakessbm
Жыл бұрын
As a former samus main I've always struggled to have consistent wall jumps. It all makes sense now
@Zxv975
Жыл бұрын
I casually play Samus and I've definitely noticed this happen every now and then with her. Her walljump on FD just felt inconsistent
@thefranChise1
Жыл бұрын
finally new hax just dropped
@saymehname
Жыл бұрын
You got them notifications on
@zachstarattack7320
Жыл бұрын
sup bro, love ur content
@electra_
Жыл бұрын
20XX: the 69th Faulty Mechanic In Melee
@leodexe
4 ай бұрын
yes
@BasrohsProductions
Жыл бұрын
FINALLY! I walljump all the time and I’ve noticed it was inconsistent, it would drive me crazy because I KNOW I’m doing it right. Glad I’m not just crazy
@samueleaton873
Жыл бұрын
Guys this is the last one, trust
@t3cchan
Жыл бұрын
I never knew about this, and it's definitely not as big of an issue as some others, but I agree that fixing walljump polling is consistent with all the other fixes in 1.03
@glowhno
Жыл бұрын
no fucking way
@Earthenmind
Жыл бұрын
I love 1.03 I have the Tournament Edition memory card from the b0xx store. Would it be possible to update my card when these changes become available?
@math8755
Жыл бұрын
it's usually simple to change save files if u have a modded wii, unless it's some weird special kind of memory card and not a mostly normal one, it should be possible to update if you get the file (Hax probably is going to publish them on friday like he said in the video).
@MicrowavedFurby
Жыл бұрын
Wait, so the 1.03 memory card I ordered from you is outdated now?
@67kingdedede
Жыл бұрын
Always has been
@queuedjar4578
Жыл бұрын
I think as long as you homebrewed your wii you can likely still change out the files in your old 1.03 with this new update.
@attention_shopping
Жыл бұрын
based
@SpectreXS
Жыл бұрын
Thank you for positng this video, I was starting to have HaxMoney Voice Withdrawal.
@SupremeBeyonder
Жыл бұрын
Thanks for all the work you put into finding these👑
@danreardon1556
Жыл бұрын
Hax I love your videos and they're super interesting but it's insane you find this shit
@cebo494
Жыл бұрын
If rollback-style fixes are possible, wouldn't a similar technique be better to fix the ADT shield problem? Make it so that if you light shield frame 1 and full shield frame 2 that it rolls back to frame 1 and plays out the two frames as if it was full-shield from the start? It would fix the integrity problem in that you couldn't both reflect and block instantly with the same shield which your current ADT fix breaks. I'm not sure if it's technically possible since it doesn't seem like the walljump fix is actually real rollback, but it seems like it would be a better version of the fix if it is possible.
@aplsed
Жыл бұрын
Can't wait until the final version of 1.03! So excited!!
@TheRealSorav
Жыл бұрын
This guy is out here improving the game and mafuckas wanna slander him
@KalebSDay
Жыл бұрын
I remember you talking about this at Tipped Off, maybe one day there will be a stealth patched 1.03 in tourney Edit: I also thought I remembered you saying there would not be a 13th faulty mechanic in the game and you found them all when I asked about more, haha. I wonder what will come out in that Friday vid.
@lounowell4171
Жыл бұрын
Why are character specific 1 frame techs not considered problematic for polling? Things like DK's ZST, or ICs' PNJ?
@mymyscellany
Жыл бұрын
furthermore, why is it wrong that some tight sequences are inherently difficult/impossible to hit with 100% consistency? Isn't the execution barrier to these techniques important to the risk vs reward when considering using them? How it is a design error if no one can hit a dk zst with 100% consistency?
@yurplethepurple2064
Жыл бұрын
@@mymyscellanytrue, but the direction laid out by previous fixes such as ucf is that everything should be able to be done consistently
@mymyscellany
Жыл бұрын
@@yurplethepurple2064 well that's stupid Dash back is an exception because you cannot reasonably avoid using dash back. There's just way too many situations it's right. Also it's an exception because some controllers are so much better than it than others because of pode. So ucf makes sense from multiple perspectives. This does not mean that every technique should be able to be done 100% consistently
@holyknightthatpwns
Жыл бұрын
@@mymyscellany Techniques should be able to be done 100% consistently if they're input 100% correctly - that's the logic behind polling input fixes. I don't think losing a polling coinflip is a good reason to lose a stock, and I don't think there's a game-design reason behind making a technique inconsistent to execute. Generally speaking, smashers don't like luck
@olbluelips
Жыл бұрын
@@mymyscellanyt’s not down to execution. The issue is you can do the exact same muscle movement and the result can depend on whether or not the game polls on a particular frame, which you can’t control
@Micha-Hil
Жыл бұрын
I find it funny that for each viable character in Melee there's another faulty mechanic
@radchum
Жыл бұрын
goat
@Arissi
Жыл бұрын
Wow this game is more faulty than my parents relationship
@Forbidden_0ne
Жыл бұрын
your parents have a relationship?
@Kart
Жыл бұрын
arissi!
@Arissi
Жыл бұрын
@@Kart MARIO KART!!!
@logan_beats
Жыл бұрын
FINALLY
@heterodoxagnostic8070
Жыл бұрын
June 30th has come and gone.
@xTheReapersSpawn
Жыл бұрын
Pretend everybody is Captain Smuckers... :)
@kingsheik78kunimitsu14
Жыл бұрын
Good 20XX Content Keep Up
@partlyawesome
Жыл бұрын
what happened to the 13th faulty mechanic?
@therealsheldonjplankton
Жыл бұрын
Where were you for GOML or DTN?
@millyawns
Жыл бұрын
I'll start taking box arguments seriously when SOCD is fixed to match other games. The input should neutralize, not overwrite.
@heterodoxagnostic8070
Жыл бұрын
What's SOCD?
@millyawns
Жыл бұрын
@heterodoxagnostic8070 Simultaneous Opposing Cardinal Directions. On most controllers and fighting games, hitting both left and right will neutralize the input, so the character essentially isn't moving left or right. On the B0XX, it takes the last pressed direction and overwrites the other so the player never has to return to neutral on a dash dance or anything. It may not seem like much, but the travel distance for transitional controllers (what makes DB and other tech difficult due to polling) is completely negated by the B0XX. I'm not saying DB or any tech should be harder on B0XX, all I'm saying is the B0XX shouldn't have advantages that are impossible on traditional controllers and flat out removed from modern fighting games. Software solutions should be enough for people using B0XXes and traditional controllers.
@x9x9x9x9x9
Жыл бұрын
Over time I am slowly VERY SLOWLY starting to trust hax isn't doing this for selfish reasons. I still think its a bad idea that a controller manufacturer has control over what version of a game we could be playing on. But I also lean more towards the purist side of things aka I want stadium unfrozen also leave shyguys and whispy alone. But the ADT shield thing has screwed me on multiple occasions, at least I think it has.
@gjisahappytoad9408
Жыл бұрын
why would making the gcc better benefit Hax, rn the Boxx has benefits over the gcc he's trying to even out.
@sauzeefy
Жыл бұрын
afaik, it's fine if there's logic to back everything he says up, and the code is there for anyone to look at.
@bobboberson8297
Жыл бұрын
@@gjisahappytoad9408 a lot of people want box banned/nerfed for being better than gcc, if he buffs gcc then the boxx's number 1 risk disappears
@math8755
Жыл бұрын
@@gjisahappytoad9408 because the negative scenario for Hax is that boxes get banned on majors, he is interested on bringing parity to these 2 option, and the option of nerfing the boxx isn't going to solve the issue (other boxes and outdated/modified boxxes) nor it's what Hax would like for his invention I would guess (making a purposefully bad controller for the sake of parity). I'm in favor of legalizing the box and eventually would like to get one due to hand health issues, but is naive to say that 1.03 is a purely altruistic endeavor.
@benjoby057
Жыл бұрын
hacks money be like "guys this is the final version of 1.03 you can trust me" also why did you ban me from your discord server like what?
@GuyDude-hk8uy
Жыл бұрын
It's painfully obvious this guy is just super passionate (read:autistic) about this game. If he's just a grifter, well, he sure picked a weird grift of fixing minor things he perceives as bugs in a game very few people give a fuck about anymore and selling said fixed versions on a memory card lmfao. What a scheme! I bet this guy is *drowning* in Funko Pops!
@legattacks
Жыл бұрын
bro there's 0 chance you've done this much work with hardware and been in the scene this long and your mic is this bad
@heterodoxagnostic8070
Жыл бұрын
Donate a mic to him then.
@legattacks
Жыл бұрын
@@heterodoxagnostic8070 if he'll use it i've got extra to send
@c0nk2879
Жыл бұрын
At what point are we not even playing the same game anymore... who is placing limiting factors on how much we are allowed to change the game? I'm genuinely curious. Just seems like a slippery slope. Any thoughts on that are appreciated. I tend to view things in a purist light.
@chinacaat1880
Жыл бұрын
im a little upset that I bought a 1.03 memcard and now its not up to date :(
@riverrunsthrough8268
Жыл бұрын
so swap the save file for a updated one
@WalkMoreOften
Жыл бұрын
Nah nerf Samus
@Chair-Son
Жыл бұрын
The wall jump fix is interesting, but the shield drop change is bullshit. If increasing the shield drop range from the community standard gives an extra advantage to boxes, the solution isnt to also give that advantage to controllers. Its to not use the "fix" the created the advantage
@partlyawesome
Жыл бұрын
Increasing the shield drop doesn't help the boxx, it helps controllers.
@orez_ssb
Жыл бұрын
First.
@saymehname
Жыл бұрын
Damn you’re quick
@pauldaulby260
Жыл бұрын
You suggested shield drop fox causes a large zone where tilt shield spot dodge can fail due to polling IMO this is much worse than ucfs fix. Ultimately I think you have to accept that an arbitrary decision here is totally fine because the overlapping inputs are a design “flaw” that you just have to work around with non ideal solutions. All values are ultimately arbitrary, why is the spot dodge line where it is anyway, it’s arbitrary, and that’s not inherently a bad thing.
@brothir
Жыл бұрын
The mic quality is so bad it's actually painful to listen to.
@TylerClibbon
Жыл бұрын
Why not just align polling with the framerate? It's pretty lame to get rid of one frame windows, makes the game easier.
@felixronkainen8880
Жыл бұрын
Polling is aligned with the framerate, that's not the issue in question. Polling errors are problems created when the analog stick is polled while traveling between two desired points, resulting in an unintended action. This occurrence is effectively random because there's no way for a human to know the exact moment that their controller is going to be polled.
@TylerClibbon
Жыл бұрын
@@felixronkainen8880 so make it poll every frame on the frame
@felixronkainen8880
Жыл бұрын
@@TylerClibbon I'm not sure what you mean by "on the frame". A frame is 1/60 of a second, but the actual moment that the poll occurs is much shorter than that. This creates a problem because that moment will sometimes occur mid-way through doing an action, rather than before and after.
@TylerClibbon
Жыл бұрын
@@felixronkainen8880 Yup I get that, so make it line up with the gameplay frame rate like as a multiple of 2 so there can be no more excuses. Taking one frame timings out of the game makes it easier and lamer and is cringe.
@TylerClibbon
Жыл бұрын
Actually that gives me an interesting idea, we should actually reduce the polling rate to one per frame so nobody can make these excuses anymore.
@rayzamarripajr.7571
Жыл бұрын
Disagreements are arbitrary..... What objectively works best for everyone should be the focus. 💯📈🤌
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