They’re the misfits monsters of D&D unloved and unused, but at least they’re not Mexi orcs or Keebler dwarves.
@marcsaindon6471
3 ай бұрын
krugel orcs have been around since the 90s
@BanjoSick
3 ай бұрын
Who cares, they suck
@slaapliedje
3 ай бұрын
Ha, I haven't seen Keebler dwarves yet. Are they no longer stone crafters, but Cookie Crafters instead?
@surlyunicorn9461
3 ай бұрын
@@slaapliedje Yep the new artwork has them baking cookies in the kitchen with their “partners”. They also have each other’s beards tattooed on their arms. Yes indeed it’s apparently what D&D should have always been about instead of all that dungeon crawling.
@slaapliedje
3 ай бұрын
@@surlyunicorn9461 🤣😂🤣😂
@Laranjeco
3 ай бұрын
I have a fondness for the axe beak/terror bird due to the fact that I created a wizard once and used one of these birds as a mount. The cool thing is that he survived until level 13 and became known as the "Mage of the Valley of the Winds".
@tazmokhan7614
3 ай бұрын
Axe beaks were/are great, I used them as a flock and only in certain terrain environments. Definitely a great random encounter of 3-5.
@crankysmurf
3 ай бұрын
The bulette, rust monsters, and owlbear were based on some cheap "dollar store" toys.
@Giles29
3 ай бұрын
The Rust Monster is responsible for one of the most humorous D&D games I have ever played in. You can't buy entertainment like that.
@solomani5959
3 ай бұрын
I’ve used the Morkoth but I reskinned it to make it “cooler” - an undead creature that uses memories of dead relatives to lure prey to its lair.
@hakdov6496
3 ай бұрын
Hey, that Bulette art looks exactly like the little plastic toy that Gary based it on. Same for the Rust Monster.
@eyeofbraille4659
12 күн бұрын
I love rust monsters so much. They're horrifying to adventurers because of circumstances, but really they're just chill good boys who graze on minerals and deserve to be loved. Perfect for mines, old battlefields, disused armouries. The utter lack of any malicious intent on their part is great.
@markcampbell4080
3 ай бұрын
I agree with you on the mimic. The only time the mimic has appeared in my game was as a pet for a wizard. Like a bear, it would need to be well fed to serve as a guardian.
@BockwinkleB
3 ай бұрын
Monster Manual ONE: Purple Haired Land Whales Nag Hags Mexican Orcs Black Orcs Black Drow Wheelchair of Doom Soi Boi White Knight Privilege Pixie
@homebrewisthebestbrew5270
3 ай бұрын
Nag Hags Special Attack: Reeeeeee! Wheelchair of Doom in the ONE DMG, along with the Black Tablet of Cancellation
@shallendor
3 ай бұрын
The barkeep asked why we carried weapons into his bar. I said ‘Mimics.’ The party laughed. The barkeep laughed. The table laughed. We killed the table. Good times. Our party rescued our thief from a Mimic, when we made a deal to feed it some dead creatures to release the thief, which it accepted and ended up joining out party and ended up becoming a guard for our house in Ravens Bluff! We always brought bodies to feed it and the occasional thief that wanted to steal from us! : )
@markdickey739
3 ай бұрын
Surprised the Piercer didn't make the list. I would also add Troglodytes because they are just stinky lizardmen. but the artwork of them is pretty cool. I love the Rust Monster and Bulette because I have the original toys they're based on.
@ailinfergan
3 ай бұрын
So the Trogs are the fantasy equivalent of Con goer stereotype.
@Nobleshield
3 ай бұрын
I forgot the Xorn was even a thing.... lmao
@NogardCodesmith
3 ай бұрын
My loathing of the Xorn comes not (directly) from D&D, but from the roguelike game Angband. I don't think I have ever encountered one in a tabletop game, nor have I used them as a GM, but in Angband I have lost probably dozens of characters to them.
@kevinlamb2129
3 ай бұрын
This was a fun video and you definitely made me crack a smile more than once, especially the bit about leprechauns in a Frank Frazetta or Boris Vallejo inspired fantasy campaign. :-) I knew the mimic would be #1 based on some recent comments you've made, ha ha. Even though I've never used or encountered either I do like the bulette and rust monster. I just find them to be "lovably odd" and I think they're so ingrained in my DNA at this point that I can't help but subconsciously smile when I turn the page and see them. And as you probably know they were both in that little baggy of plastic monsters (along with what would become the owl bear) that Gary or someone picked up in Japan in the early 70's that he gave his own names to and turned into very memorable monsters.
@NefariousKoel
3 ай бұрын
I recall having a bag of those monsters in early childhood. When I saw a couple of them in the MM I instantly thought of those cheap toys. Come to find out, the relation was real and direct.
@elliotvernon7971
3 ай бұрын
The only ones I use here is the ghast and the gray ooze (which is kind of like the Steve McQueen Blob monster watched on a black and white television), but I always thought the Morkoth was cool in a bad 1950s horror/sci fi kind of way.
@nixit11g34
3 ай бұрын
I fully agree with most of your list. I have used rust monsters in dwarven mines; bullettes in farming communities.. I am sick of mimics. You did miss the lame piercers dropping from cavern ceilings though.
@kevinlamb2129
3 ай бұрын
Oh and I'll also add that your backdrop with the DCS MM cover and Moldvay Basic box freaking ROCKS. 🤘
@DiversityDragons
3 ай бұрын
Thank you Kevin!
@jschaap705
15 күн бұрын
a rust monster is a DM's perfect gift to a monk or druid.
@rockyreynolds739
3 ай бұрын
The bullette (boo lay) was made as a reaction to player preferences. It was done for fun and to give the DM a tool to deprive players of a mount.
@thethan302
3 ай бұрын
Axe beaks are legit though. Especially if you're playing in a hollow earth or prehistoric setting… same for the Irish deer and any other real world prehistoric animals. I fully believe that Rust monsters exist purely for DMs to correct handing out magical items that are wrecking their campaign. “Shouldn’t have given them that +5 vorpal holy avenger.. time to take it back!” The rest of the list is simply, “where/when/how do I even use this thing”
@slaapliedje
3 ай бұрын
"These monsters are terrible." - DD "These are the ones we made rubber toys of!" - some toy maker in Hong Kong
@calvanoni5443
3 ай бұрын
A Ghast can paralyze even Elves i believe.
@shallendor
3 ай бұрын
Yes it can!
@jeframdenkar
3 ай бұрын
I enjoyed this one. But so many of these creatures are super specialized that most time you should never see them outside the most extreme situations. Mind you my old dm liked running Ghasts for undead encounters for some reason. One regular in game foe for a time used them for elite infantry (high level play near their lair with 10 ghast strong patrols). Looking forward to your review of MM2 and Fiend Folio.
@craigl1641
3 ай бұрын
The giant slug was straight out of a Conan story
@BillCassinelli
3 ай бұрын
The only two disagreements I have are the Xorn and the Mimic. Xorns eat gems, and can burrow. They are constantly at war with my dwarves, and the mimics are not treasure chests in my games. They can look like anything medium sized, and hanging out in a room. A wardrobe, a table, a chair. My favorite is a door on a solid wall.
@tazmokhan7614
3 ай бұрын
Ran an adventure once of a Xorn infestation planned by Duergar Dwarves to take over a Mountain Dwarf mining colony and the adventures had to try and clear out the infestation and confront the Duergar Dwarves in their lair, was pretty epic. Also, yes, mimic treasure box was kind of boring, so I made variants even back in the day of Mimic animals and humanoids, the players weren't so eager to go stabby stabby or fling arrows randomly with these types and the paranoia was priceless.
@slaapliedje
3 ай бұрын
Whoa, I would love a poster of the Monster Manual! Then again, I love that the Castles & Crusades MM has an updated picture like that!
@DiscoBarbarian
3 ай бұрын
+1 for Zorn reference. ran a rust monster once when my kid was younger, he wanted a campaign that had all the old school monsters... he was playing a thief and the party was searching a cave they found in the woods... my Kid and my Brother (a Knight) were standing guard outside.... I heavily sold the setup... to the group in the cave.... when the monster showed up my kid hit the woods to get away... leaving the Knight alone... with a Rust Monster.... needless to say my Bro was PISSED... was pretty great as he had to adjust for about a week of travel till they got somewhere to re-equip (he also got magical upgrade soon after) Rust Monsters are brutal.
@Doodle1776
3 ай бұрын
A few of these I do/have use/ed based on the location. Like the mimic is too much of a "got ya" creature if it's not used properly. I used two of them at the end of a minotaur maze run by a minotaur cult. They ran the maze as a way to give them entertainment while sacrificing people to their "pets" and promised that if anyone survived the maze until the end they would get a reward. At the end I had three chests and two were mimics, the other had the party's reward for surviving. These were place specifically because the cult didn't want to give away their coin and hoped that if anyone made it that far the mimics would kill them instead.
@dylanhyatt5705
3 ай бұрын
Trapper - two caves entrance to a dungeon: in the first cave the party (like I knew) would check for traps on the ground - I hit them with Lurkers Above. Next cave, they scanned the cavern roof but forgot to check the ground - I hit them with Trappers. Xorns were great at eating plate mailed fighters, Rust Monsters too useful to keep the players on their toes. I liked the Axe Beak - don't know why. My best Mimic feigned being a mechanical apparatus that appeared to disarm swinging axe pendulums (the real disarm mechanism was located in the room beyond).
@jefffroman
3 ай бұрын
A couple of minor points: the 1e Monster Manual was first printed in 1977, not 1979. It didn't include "Irish Deer" as far as I recall, and Slithering Tracker was "Invisible Stalker" (which came with an empty frame by way of illustration).
@DiversityDragons
3 ай бұрын
My copy says 1979.
@jefffroman
3 ай бұрын
@@DiversityDragons yeah, that's why yours has the Irish Deer and "Slithering" Tracker!
@casimirliber239
Ай бұрын
I'd agree with most of these. Agree about ecology - I liked the idea I read somewhere of a mimic hiding as a lamppost in a seedy part of town and eating the odd drunken reveller in the wee hours....
@nicholasrova3698
2 ай бұрын
I guarantee you acid was dropped at the ol' TSR offices.
@bukharagunboat8466
3 ай бұрын
The Type 2 Demon originated in Eldritch Wizardry. It was used quite a bit by early players, but yes it's a demonic frog. I have a miniature somewhere from the 1970s Minifigs range. The Brownie was available as a Special Familiar, so the stats are needed for that. The Bulette was based on a plastic toy, which gamers like me really did use when there were few miniatures designed for fantasy games. Same with the Rust Monster and Owlbear. The Thought Eater is another monster from Eldritch Wizardry. Completely pointless unless psionics are a big part of the campaign. After fighting a Giant Slug we asked the DM, "Is it dead?" the DM sensibly replied, "How can you tell?" The Ghast was very heavily used. They are all over the original Baldur's Gate (which is 2E). I totally agree about the variations on a theme problem. Back in the day there was an obsession with New Monsters, and whole rafts of these little variations. Isn't the Tasloi just a tree goblin? I stopped using Monster Manuals and built stats for creatures from scratch.
@UrbanVerse69
3 ай бұрын
I've gotten some enjoyment out of using mimics as doors when I've had players trying to speedrun a dungeon. Literally going through kicking open doors and trying to pull multiple rooms at once (I really hate 5e, and am so glad I've left that behind) didn't work so well when one bites the kickin' leg and holds him there for a while so all those monsters can gang up on the unfortunate monk.
@KrugusRuneblade
3 ай бұрын
Some of these monsters work well in certain situations. Slimes, oozes, and puddings. They would all be used to great effect in a mad wizard laboratory. Beyond that? Not so much. Rust Monsters and Mimic's I view as something someone would encounter in an Evil Wizard / Lich lair but they would be part of the same encounter. While stuck to the mimic, the rust monsters would come out to deal with any metal then the wizard's minions capture any would-be hero and deliver them up to their boss. I know it works well in that combo >:)
@kentuckyrex
2 ай бұрын
*Tim Kask has entered the chat* "It's pronounced Boo-lay!"
@phloog
3 ай бұрын
Now a party is going to enter a mammoth cavern of rust and stone, and fight the Rust Kaiju.
@cha0sunity
2 ай бұрын
I used a rust monster recently. It ate a player shield and then spent the rest of the session following them form the cave ceiling. I didn't do anything else with it, but it creak out the player. I had a good time.... My player is on shield number 3 now.
@xgnardprime
3 ай бұрын
4:34 Bullette was exclusively Tim Kask's monster.
@autisticallyaccurate
3 ай бұрын
Personally I would like the Brownie to retain its appearance as you spoke about it BUT that its insides are made of chocolate brownie confectionary sponge and tastes like brownies. Sort of like a clay golem without bones, organs, or blood the insides are just chocolate brownie and everything just moves by magic. So this brownie monster is an edible chocolate brownie the size of a small creature wrapped in skin, hair, and clothes.
@DiversityDragons
3 ай бұрын
😆😆😆
@larrycamo5824
3 ай бұрын
Giant Slugs are kickass, though. And people not using Gray Ooze??? Are you kidding??
@strawpiglet
3 ай бұрын
Don’t worry, ooze has always been a staple of mine.
@grandarchon6969
2 ай бұрын
Flesh Golems are cool. I really liked their use in the Ashardalon adventure chain in 3rd (3.5?) edition. Gulthias was doing all sorts of flesh crafting experiments in the Nightfang Spire adventure (10-12) and one of them included a dragon's head placed on the flesh golem giving it a breath weapon. Good times. I view them as a logical extension of any necromancy based bad guy(s). In a world with magic, the ethical issues of pushing the limits from technology aren't really the same. But I guess lots of bad guys in stories push magic use too far. That can be analogous too.
@dragonhowto
3 ай бұрын
Totally agree about mimics. Gotchya monsters are for lazy DM's. If youre going to use mimics, best to make them sentient guards of other treasure that are paid in flesh for keeping the treasure safe
@thatsnotoneofmeatsmanyuses1970
3 ай бұрын
Fantasy writer Craig Shaw Gardner got a lot of comedy out of brownies, and their shoe-related magic. I'll admit that I like flesh golems.
@tazmokhan7614
3 ай бұрын
Well, I only agree with 4/20, most of the monsters I never played totally as written (who did back then). we Grognard DMs all had different playing styles pertaining to our monsters, especially in 1 and 2nd ed. but that was the fun of DMing. I have a very cinematic Dming style so most monsters in adventures I run are a little boosted up for dramatic and challenge purposes. But hey I agree with 4 of them and 2 of them I don't ever remember knowing about (had to bust out my old MM to see...lol).
@LordOz3
3 ай бұрын
I agree on most of these - and even the one's I'd use, I can see why others wouldn't. Rust monsters are one of those monsters I outgrew along with huge multi-level dungeons of rooms with seemingly random monsters and traps, but I like your suggestion of them being a menace to dwarves. It could make for an interesting adventure of the players getting hired or otherwise enticed to enter an area known to have rust monsters, so they have to decide in advance if they want to risk metal gear or go in with the tanks under-powered.
@tommartin1223
3 ай бұрын
I made a rust monster with a breath weapon. A cone of rust. It totally screwed with knights and such
@griffithmorgan4966
3 ай бұрын
There is a story behind some of the monsters like the Rust Monster. I thought they looked silly, but now I love them.
@tazmokhan7614
3 ай бұрын
Rust monsters have always been the ultimate equalizer to an arrogant, Meta-driven and magically soaked party (granted DMs we hold part of the blame for this happening) who like to just rampage through a dungeon or lair at will, yes this monster is a HUGE problem if used incorrectly, which is why I rarely used them back then, but in 5th Ed. I have to admit its been hilariously funny watching new players losing their minds but overcoming this adversity and realizing that sometimes when you are a good aligned group with a paladin, you don't do evil things.
@cavemanbum
3 ай бұрын
Looking forward to you doing similar videos for the Monster Manual II and the Fiend Folio.
@17joren
2 ай бұрын
Such a missed opportunity to not say you nixed the nixie. Also I think your point with the leprechaun is valid because of what a meme the holiday is, but it kind of falls apart (or just down to your personal preference) when it comes to the flesh golem. I don't believe most people think about the "playing god" element so much (maybe not as many anymore) and besides, so many other creatures come from myths with lots of baggage that they are "inexorably tied to" so you could say they don't belong in your game either.
@JackFetch-eb1gr
3 ай бұрын
I'd swop the Rust Monster which I've used in my campaigns as dwarven metal seeking truffle hounds and city watch guard dogs with the Ixitxachitl because I could never wrap my head around intelligent Asmodeus worshipping clerical stingrays
@sketchasaurrex4087
3 ай бұрын
The Axe Beak is a fantasy Terror Bird. Go up to a Cassowary and realize just how surprisingly intimidating big bird can be. I love mimics, especially a false one as bait. Oh, looky there. A random chest on a raised mound. Has to be a "mimic." The roper or some other smart dungeon dwelling monster waiting to ambush the one who touches the bait. I usually use mimics as ambushers that were hiding a passgaeway because they were the wall. They sneak up on the party when it's just one on watch and tries to scamper off with its ambushed prey. They're fun but not often used.
@steambub
3 ай бұрын
I like the Space Mimic from Spelljammer, it can trade books with you.
@autisticallyaccurate
3 ай бұрын
I really love the context you give to number 15, could be an intriguing monster to discover and realise the humoured reality of plausibly encountering it, the magnitude of what it means and the extreme examples of what makes sense.
@daikaijugamer
3 ай бұрын
I have to admit I actually like most of these 😅 That said, I think my least favorite classic D&D monster is easily the Invisible Stalker. The idea of an invisible monster is really cool, but the Stalker just disappoints in execution by being an invisible air elemental that, to add insult to injury, is also mute. An invisible monster that cannot talk just misses the fun of an invisible monster! Do they at least have cool lore, maybe some jnique ecology? Nah they're just air elementals that got summoned and altered by a wizard. I think I'll just populate my campaign worlds with Fritz Leiber's invisible folk instead!
@opaqued2039
3 ай бұрын
Great video. I agree with a lot of your picks for crap monsters. My formula for using crappy monsters: Provide an explanation and description (maybe better art) and use them sparingly. In a lot of cases, they're used as more of an oddity rather than a random encounter or serious threat. An example is the rust monster. I didn't place them in dungeons or random encounters. The last time that I used rust monsters, they were being kept in a stone prison inside a wizard's tower, fed metal, and the players discovered them when they broke into the wizard's tower. If I remember correctly, the wizard was going to have them help him subdue the town guard or wreck the merchants' guild...honestly, I don't remember. I also recently used a Hezrou demon, but it's never been called a Hezrou demon. It's a servant of Tsathogga that was dispatched to punish the adventurers that desecrated the temple and idol of Tsathogga. I also like to use the Banderhobb for this...really any large frog creature with better art or better DM description.
@bobreaper2142
3 ай бұрын
Good video I do like the mimic in different forms they are fun . knowing what I know now about the making of the game some of the monsters could have been drawn by kids on ridelin lol .
@slaapliedje
3 ай бұрын
(I should finish watching the video before commenting). In a recent game, the GM had a mimic as a door, and another as a coffin. I have no clue why they always seem to be portrayed as chests... how would they be born? Also, that image doesn't have the 'evolved' 'I am a mouth in the form of a chest!' That it has become over the years.
@capkovodna
3 ай бұрын
This was amusing, would gladly watch lists for the other books mentioned. Anyone thinking of the hypno-toad from Futurama when Morkoth was explained? Kinda fond of flesh golems myself, but that's because I tend to modify them in various ways.
@cp1cupcake
3 ай бұрын
I don't know if I ever saw a rust monster in a game I was in which was not in a natural underground area. I think the nixie is supposed to be more of a traditional fey monster in line with the year long enslavement.
@AWarrenJohnson
3 ай бұрын
Definitely enjoy these videos, double D. Would love to see more. I also really like your idea of rust monsters in the mountains. I have never particularly cared for rust monsters either, but now I am toying with the idea of dwarves getting annoyed by them.
@DiversityDragons
3 ай бұрын
Thank you Warren!
@worldbigfootcentral3933
3 ай бұрын
Bulette pronounced "Boo-Lay". The Bulette and rust monster were both plastic toys from a chinese toy set labeled "dinosaurs". I once had them. Gary and gang pressed these weird minis into use in the game and gave them stats. Abilities from Gary, look courtesy of a Chinese toy company. You're welcome
@Kill2Hard101
3 ай бұрын
I've always hated the "gotcha" monsters! It really lets you know what kind of DM Gygax must've been 😆
@warlok363
3 ай бұрын
Mimics, Frieren's one weakness Seriously though just tweak them as magic created abominations designed by a psychopath wizard that hates people (especially adventurers) and that it doesn't really need to eat much and just kills out of instinct.
@homebrewisthebestbrew5270
3 ай бұрын
"Kurai Yo! Kowai Yo!"
@autisticallyaccurate
3 ай бұрын
I love your scripted intentionally cruel but sensible humour and attitude. Bravo!
@martinbowman1993
3 ай бұрын
I bet Frankenstein would make a great adventure.
@howardkingston7901
3 ай бұрын
Great video back in White Dwarf 29(I think?) They had an article for Brownie PC's and yep good to go well back then anything that came out of White Dwarf 'Character Conjuring' would be given ago😊
@strawpiglet
3 ай бұрын
I appreciate you pronouncing Bulette right, though I think it’s a great monster even if it’s a little goofy. It was one of my favorite toys before I discovered ADnD so I might be biased. The gray ooze is one of the monsters I have used the most, and I love the illustration. It’s so creepy and feels like something that could exist in real life. I loved your take down of the Morkoth. Maybe it’s a great monster, I don’t know, but it sure looks... I don’t even know.
@Thagomizer
3 ай бұрын
Mimics can definitely be used to good effect. I once encountered a killer mimic that took the form of a small boat that I tried to take to cross an underground lake. I killed it, but it was terrifying.
@craigcochrane2284
3 ай бұрын
Have to disagree on the Leprechaun simply because I love that they mess with the graphic design of the book (which had Mr Mxyptlyk vibes)...plus we all know it was the high point of Warwick Davis' career.
@simonacerton3478
3 ай бұрын
The Giant Slug at least makes an appearance in Robert Howard's work.
@kurgon1976
3 ай бұрын
my elf was slain by a mimic that was working in tandem with a giant spider. It engulfed the elf's head and it was over.
@Robstopper78
3 ай бұрын
Matt Mercer used the Morkoth in a really cool way in Season 2 on a show called Critical Role! Highly recommended - I think you'll enjoy that show!
@DiversityDragons
3 ай бұрын
Never heard of it...😅🤣😂
@sharpmountaingames9303
3 ай бұрын
I think the Bulette and the Rust Monster were based on little plastic monsters that Gary got at a 5 and dime. There's something that REALLY looks like a Bulette in an old Ultraman episode. Fun video DD!
@erikwaag6438
3 ай бұрын
My son has memorized the MM. He loves the Psyduck, I mean the Thought Eater. In a way even Gygax's failures were reskinned for use by later IPs.
@bugslayerprime7674
3 ай бұрын
I know axe beaks from Secret of Mana.
@marvinanderson5819
3 ай бұрын
Two words for you. Toilet Mimic. Years ago my DM put one in a seedy Inn my group stayed at one night. It was the pet of the innkeepers. He and his family had been killing random travelers for years and my group had been hired to investigate. Our wizard literally fell into our first real clue to what was going on lol.
@anaximander66
3 ай бұрын
Some of these would make a fun challenge to make interesting. We should start a campaign complaining how the trapper is UNDER represented and that each adventure with a lurker must have a trapper. They should also be in the store house of the local barista.
@MalakyoftheOSR
3 ай бұрын
Good video with excellent reasoning overall. You're idea for where a rust monster would work best was the highlight. I do get where you are coming from with the bulete, but that is one where the art gets better over the editions. Let's see more of this. I want to hear your opinions on the monsters from the other books, just as long as you acknowledge that the Froghemoth is the best monster in MMII.
@RIVERSRPGChannel
3 ай бұрын
Good list I’ve never used a mimic either Now I have to watch the best 20
@Thagomizer
3 ай бұрын
Perhaps a Pig/Boar demon in lieu of a toad demon? Or is that subsumed by the Nalfeshnee?
@jeffreyrunokivi132
3 ай бұрын
I like the Outland hat!
@lionofthemorning7997
3 ай бұрын
One of the problems with the MM & many other such books is that, sadly a lot of the monsters are silly & really just there to pad the page count. A good portion of such books should be monster abilities & how to construct them, along with random generation tables for the unprepared. ACKS does it pretty well.
@johnedgar7956
3 ай бұрын
Hello DD! I admit I did use a flesh golem recently to good effect. I usually run my games in the World of Greyhawk (I cringe at what blasphemies WotC are about to do to it) and I had this "schtick" going where a useful, reliable NPC would accompany the party for most of the adventure until I found some amusing, gruesome way to kill him off, so they had names like "Grunt the 1/2 orc fighter" and "Sir Gonner, Knight of Keoland". Even with those names, they didn't catch on for a while. I ran Against The Cult of the Reptile God, and in the trek thru the Rushmoors a random encounter came up with a giant snapping turtle. I decided this was a *GIANT* snapping turtle; the size of a small hill, and I presented it as a grassy dry spot where the party could take refuge atop it and get out of the knee deep, leech infested swamp water. The 2nd level mage in our group immediately suspected some sort of DM f*ckery and for a laugh, shot a fire bolt cantrip (yeah I know, 5e rules, but with an OSR aesthetic, for what it's worth) at the "hillside". This enraged the turtle, and during the fight it ate poor Grunt before the whole party could escape. (Best part was that everyone blamed the mage, not me.) However, while clearing out the Naga's lair, they missed the evil cleric on the lower level who I later decided had necromancy skills. He pieced together Grunt's excreted remains and built a flesh golem out of him, along with a few "spare parts" from the guards my players had killed. Poor Grunt turned up later in the following adventure, a hideous, sewn-together aberration of him that is, in an ambush set up by that vengeful cleric. So it *is* very situational as you correctly said, but I made it work and it was hilarious. After Grunt died (the first time), one of my players who is a USAF Military Police veteran with about as much tact & bedside manner as a turkey buzzard quipped, "if a giant turtle shits in the woods, does it make a 'grunt'?" Freaking degenerate. 🙂
@TheSoling27
3 ай бұрын
was waffling on the Flesh Golem - but animate dead is Flesh Golem creation.. but 100% agree about the Mimic--to wit -- after 40+yrs -- never used one
@MatthewCenance
3 ай бұрын
6:43 Oh hey, it's that one that Bogleech complained about becoming too generic and like a bone reptile in later editions.
@MerlinTheCommenter
11 күн бұрын
7up with caffeine sounds like a great way to kill the customer base 😂. But in all seriousness, I can’t disagree with this list. I would personally change the Mimic’s abilities to be able to mimic women and children. I don’t recall mimics doing that, if they could, why wouldn’t they? Perfect way to gain trust quick. It will also create suspicion everytime a new NPC showed up 😂
@dragonhowto
3 ай бұрын
I actually love axe beaks. I saw several documentaries about Terror Birds owards the end of elementary school and beginning of middle school. Aaxe Beak is a stupid name, call them Terror Birds and show your players an early 2010's CGI clip of a South American Terror Bird smacking its beak into the neck of a primitive horse and paralyzing it. They are going to freak out
@Nightbreed24
3 ай бұрын
I was expecting the wolf-in-sheep's-clothing. :) The most popular Hungarian RPG actually copied some of these, like the giant slug and the mimic. Please review those green sourcebooks (Charlemagne's France, Outremer, Rome, Hellas, etc.) if you have them!
@frankg1422
2 ай бұрын
Nixies made their way into ultima IV so they cant be all that bad.
@dan925
3 ай бұрын
Have to advocate the mimics - once I was DMing a campaign, where plot rounded about network of mimics who assigned a form of altars and influenced full orc tribe to feed them by "sacrificing" prizoners, they took by raiding nearby lands. The advanced fiendish mimic who took form of a orc chiaftain's throne was a final boss of that campaign. So, problem with mimics are not on the monster, but in laziness of it yusage by most DMs. P s. This is my personal list of worse monsters: Flumpf - this creature is too goofy and meaningless to be in my games Scum - why we need another aquatic/amphibian race just to serve as slaves for aboleth and mind flayers? we allready have quo-toa and sachuagins to fill that nieshe... Gem dragons - for god sake! we have a huge amount of dragon spicees allready, and, theyr modern design are super ugly... Skulk - actually it is just a invisible goblins.
@isaacmarx6277
3 ай бұрын
I generally agree with the lists and comments, but If the Flesh Golem was like in Castlevania... it would be perfect as an abomination of wizards
@nikolibarastov4487
2 ай бұрын
To the point about rust monsters why can't they be in the caves trying to chew through Rock to find veins of iron? Or in a ruined dwarven City slowly chewing through the densest metals that are forged? I think they should be used sparingly especially since in leader editions they are confirmed to be from the plane of Acheron, the Eternal Battlefield. And why wouldn't a wizard make those for his lair, or a lich and have a supply of armor and super-dense medals that would keep it fed for years on end waiting for some asshole fighter to show up in full plate and get chewed?
@cavemanbum
3 ай бұрын
Runners up: Brain Mole, Gas Spore, Gorgon, Peryton, Roper, Sea Lion, Shambling Mound, Su-Monster, and Will-O-(the)-Wisp. DUMB
@ailinfergan
3 ай бұрын
Gas Spore was definitely an FU to hasty players.
@satturnine7320
3 ай бұрын
I read somewhere that GG and crew were lacking ideas for monsters So they ordered some plastic figurines from a Chinese toy company Then they would reach into the bag and pull one out and ask what are we going to call this thing Uh, rust monster…
@Hewhowantstoknow
3 ай бұрын
I like Mimics but agree that randomly putting them in a dungeon is lame and lazy, I like to put them in places where there's actually food available, they'll still copy the look of an object, whether that is a treasure chest, a rock, a tree, a chair or a door depends on the area and what disguise gets them the most prey. I use them sparingly but I also got a "Mimic Colony" Tavern in my back pocket in case
@ILGOBLINO777
3 ай бұрын
for the Bulette, Dave Arneson admited that they created it after they got some japanese toys. He was high after smoking a doober and watched that snl skit. I would send you the video at twitter but you banned me after a mean meme.
@homebrewisthebestbrew5270
3 ай бұрын
YES!! Worst of Fiend Folio! Bring it! However, our group took bulettes very seriously, the centerpiece of some of our nastiest fights. As for mimics, well... kzitem.info/news/bejne/joqGvoaAe3t4qXo
@bukharagunboat8466
3 ай бұрын
I think this is a bit harsh on the underwater monsters. Most originated in Blackmoor, Supplement 2 to oDnD. The philosophy was to make underwater variants of surface monsters, so the Merrow is an aquatic Ogre; who actually needs that? But, we are talking 1975 here, so things were very different. The video is way too harsh on the Morkoth - it's a Cthuloid thingy from before there were Psionics in the game; give Dave Arneson a break! Also the Nixie; this is a creature derived from Greek Mythology. In the end we don't need Centaurs, Satyrs, Cyclopes, Nymphs etc either, but having stats for those Greek-derived creatures makes sense for those who want to use them. Back to the underwater monsters. The only one that has really taken hold is the Sahuagin. For me the most pointless were the Locathah (underwater merchants) and the strangest Ixixtachitl (a race of evil rays with Cleric abilities). The video is right, though, no one ever used these monsters.
@autisticallyaccurate
3 ай бұрын
Damn, 19 is so humiliating to suffer!
@CurtisHoney
3 ай бұрын
Will you ever do a video about 3.0/3.5 ed? I'm not sure if you ever played that edition but its my edition of choice and i'd really enjoy video in the same vein of this one. Just breaking down the best and worst of my all time favourite and go to edition!
@DiversityDragons
3 ай бұрын
We played 3.0 a lot when it came out. 6 years straight, then some Pathfinder 1e for a bit.
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