She did not have to cook her like that. Didn't even add any seasoning either, just threw her right into the fire. Maybe she can be used in one of Cindy's cooking videos now.
@withcindy
3 жыл бұрын
the roast was immaculate
@KimPenny
3 жыл бұрын
@@withcindy just to try to y red St ar
@ohnobro9621
3 жыл бұрын
S-Tier roast
@littlemayo7136
3 жыл бұрын
That wasn't even a rose I can tell you how to professional drag stollar that she flat-out read her like an open hand book she read her like her script she read her like a character description
@Sammy-yf2sb
3 жыл бұрын
PLS WHAT IS THIS-
@aliciaunwin
3 жыл бұрын
I love how the Asian girl actually talks about her life issues and doesn’t just sweep it under the rug so she can put up with the main lead’s shizzz
@yuh1545
3 жыл бұрын
i’m so glad she talked about that stuff
@ellie19918
3 жыл бұрын
claudia had major social anxiety and vivian just expected her to be all out spoken
@preciousotoakhia9789
2 жыл бұрын
@@yuh1545 Respect for that
@natalieadams3463
3 жыл бұрын
They knew what they were doing when they wrote Seth as a feminist skater boy who wears rings and calls people out on their bs
@maferzamudiobermejo1594
3 жыл бұрын
I knowwwwww
@kevxxxedge
3 жыл бұрын
AND he has a good tre-flip!
@spookyho5994
3 жыл бұрын
yessss
@hannah-fg5vo
3 жыл бұрын
@@kevxxxedge the guy who plays him is a popular skater!
@krishankalia9990
3 жыл бұрын
Wait I'm confused... I just watched the movie can someone explain this to me?
@aleidadiaz2261
3 жыл бұрын
That Asian boy was so well adjusted and articulate about his feelings. I fell in love with him not only when he starred his hands, but when he wrote her name on his arm.
@magicalgirl4
3 жыл бұрын
He was such a good character and lovely romantic lead
@parkthepenguin6344
3 жыл бұрын
Seth was great in the books, I didn’t watch the whole movie but he seems pretty good here ;)
@explodinglungs5974
3 жыл бұрын
I don't think that Seth writing Vivian's name on his arm was the best thing because Vivian's attitude is so sour and extreme, she didn't deserve that. Vivian should've apologized to him properly because Seth was right: all he's done was support her and doesn't deserve to be her punching bag. I love the movie and all but Vivian didn't learn anything and even damaged property while letting others take the fall for her actions. But even so she still admitted some of her mistakes, even if she got waaaay more leeway then she deserved from the people that love her (Claudia, Seth, her mom). At least they did call Vivian out on her shit so I'll give the movie that. I have mixed feelings about this quirky yet obviously flawed movie but I think it was a pretty good stepping stone for social justice.
@parkthepenguin6344
3 жыл бұрын
@@explodinglungs5974 I’m pretty sure that in the book, Vivian wasn’t that bad
@explodinglungs5974
3 жыл бұрын
@@parkthepenguin6344 I might read the book cause I love the difference between books and movies (usually books being better). I'll take your advice then. 👌
@cniknik9863
3 жыл бұрын
They call a male feminist a "white knight" or a "simp" all the time online but if he's not doing it just to get in some lady's pants or manipulate, he's just a good person. A true ally.
@illustryfe5354
3 жыл бұрын
Exactly 😏
@mynameisreallycool1
3 жыл бұрын
Tbh when I was watching the movie, I thought that was going to be the case. I thought there would be a twist where we would later find out that he wasn't a feminist after all and only did these things so that he'd get women's attention. I'm glad that wasn't case.
@serena612
3 жыл бұрын
Ya I really liked the way they showed that men can be feminists too
@HenshinHeroesMedia
3 жыл бұрын
What do you all male allies towards feminism when they need an excuse to kick sexist butt and other individuals who are some kind of phobic?
@hat7475
3 жыл бұрын
@@HenshinHeroesMedia i- I can't comprehend what you just said 😭
@lokiehigh8732
3 жыл бұрын
You punching a guy in the face because he was seuxally harassing you just because he had a crush on you is a mood
@withcindy
3 жыл бұрын
and i'd do it again POW POW!
@misssteak1290
3 жыл бұрын
Same. I remember in middle school this guy kept asking me out after i repeatedly rejected him. One time i snapped and suddenly i was the bad guy for like 2 weeks because everyone loved him
@lesbiangoddess290
3 жыл бұрын
Yup. Cannot stand that bs
@ggundercover3681
3 жыл бұрын
@@misssteak1290 haha gotta love ppl's stupidity amiright.
@tazariarobinson5666
3 жыл бұрын
Oddly enough I relate to that so much. I had to do it twice.
@luis.santosc
3 жыл бұрын
the “you don’t get what’s going on with me bc you’re white” line got me fucking goosebumps omg
@withcindy
3 жыл бұрын
RIGHTTTTT
@lia1tan
3 жыл бұрын
Man I really wish I had the guts to say that sometimes. Like when I had some of my students being racist to me and when I told about it to my colleagues they just told me that they’re just kids (in high school) and I shouldn’t care what a bunch of teenagers say to me since I’m the adult. Like fuck that shit. I wish I could’ve said that but I was so frustrated and angry that I cried.
@lesbiangoddess290
3 жыл бұрын
I mean fucking correct.
@mayakane9978
3 жыл бұрын
@@lia1tan I'm really sorry, people need to remember that hurting other people doesn't require an age. I hope its going better for you.
@RenaissanceRockerBoy
3 жыл бұрын
@@lia1tan Honestly, you’re a teacher and they should not be allowed to say that to you. There are probably students in the class who would love to see an authority figure stand up for not being insulted. Try to tell them calmly but firmly that that type of language is not acceptable in your class, and if you have to give them detention or something. Because that is not acceptable.
@SarcasmandSciFi
3 жыл бұрын
In middle school, a guy kept making gross, sexual comments about/directly to me. One day. I got fed up and pushed him. He hit his head on a locker. I was such a quiet, well-behaved kid that none of the teachers believed him when he tried to tell on me. He was very nice to me from that point forward. Sometimes, you just have to *literally* smash the patriarchy.
@withcindy
3 жыл бұрын
Proud of u
@SarcasmandSciFi
3 жыл бұрын
@@withcindy Thanks. I'm proud of me, too.
@annie2845
3 жыл бұрын
👍
@MarleneSilva-np5tn
3 жыл бұрын
Happened to me too, only I didn't push him. I went straight for the punch😂😂But teacher didn't believe me when I said what he had been saying for the last weeks and forced me to say sorry
@SarcasmandSciFi
3 жыл бұрын
@@MarleneSilva-np5tn it sucks that the teacher didn't believe you, but I'm glad you stood up for yourself with him, anyway.
@spiteandcoldbrew
3 жыл бұрын
How dare you not mention the biggest male ally in this movie, the guy from the printer store 😤
@glossyraspberries9124
3 жыл бұрын
Stan the guy from the printer store
@kssafoo
3 жыл бұрын
i love frank
@reginarodriguez1477
3 жыл бұрын
stan printer store man for clear skin
@relaxolotl788
3 жыл бұрын
he's legit the most important person like he never told anyone who made moxie
@kssafoo
3 жыл бұрын
@@relaxolotl788 and they forgot he existed like i want a movie with all the side character that got throw out the window because the main character didn't interact with them anymore
@tav1754
3 жыл бұрын
“When every teenage girl realises how fucked up the world is-“ That was literally me when I discovered the internet.
@sarroumarbeu6810
3 жыл бұрын
Hence her remark 🤭 ...we all have a crisis then mould ourselves however we see fit to counter it
@throwaway7104
3 жыл бұрын
THIS HAVING TRIPLE SIX LIKES 😳 JESUS TAKE THE WHEEELL
@Jrookus
3 жыл бұрын
Hahaha imagine discovering the world was fucked up as a teen This post was made by childhood depression gang
@notwerkinginthishouse8634
3 жыл бұрын
@@Jrookus same, highschool breakdown
@GINSHOTGUN
3 жыл бұрын
Lmao same
@kling.klokje
3 жыл бұрын
Love that the whole internet agrees that Lucy should’ve been the main character
@withcindy
3 жыл бұрын
LUCY SUPREMACY
@thegooddinggleberry
3 жыл бұрын
Ya but where would the drama come from? Lucy it too smart and too out spoken not take credit. I mean there's the bullying/harassment sub plot, but 13 reasons why exists(it's bad but it said something) .
@jordandelattre8203
3 жыл бұрын
yesss
@meganl2335
3 жыл бұрын
I loooved lucy but I felt that a lot of issues were portrayed because Vivian was the main character. For example, her white privilege, how she has good intentions but is often misguided, how she gets so caught up in her agenda she forgets to consider other perspectives, etc. I feel like those things could really apply to a lot of people in our world, and it's cool if many could relate to Lucy and even self reflect on their own actions. She's definitely more flawed, more unlikeable, and her views/actions needed to change compared to lucy's but that's sort of the point.
@kling.klokje
3 жыл бұрын
@@meganl2335 that is true, but I also think that this movie was still kinda made with white feelings too much in mind. Like I saw someone say somewhere Abt how the movie would be way cooler if instead of Vivian doing the zine alone, she reached out to Lucy for help since she does seem to know a lot Abt feminism. I just feel like if they wanted I be intersectional they should’ve gone harder on it cause now it just feels like too much is happening without it being thought out too much.
@leonthelad3208
3 жыл бұрын
"We heard your silence LOUD and CLEAR, but also it is interwoven with cultural dynamics that can make it very difficult, and it is a very nuanced situation, so I understand your situation." bruh I'm dead
@withcindy
3 жыл бұрын
gotta stay balanced bro
@savannamitchell3278
3 жыл бұрын
@@withcindy are you a libra? 😂
@xxireneangelxx5904
3 жыл бұрын
i saw this comment right as cindy was saying it
@MrIcarusEl
3 жыл бұрын
I really appreciate the whole "quietly rebel" thing they had with Claudia. As someone who is a major introvert and gets uncomfortable and anxious during social interactions, I really appreciated that they mentioned you don't have to be loud and in your face to rebel or fight for a cause.
@SingingSuperstar28
3 жыл бұрын
I mean someone has to take care of the administrative things and that's gonna be people like us 😉
@giovannirafael5351
3 жыл бұрын
Yes I felt seen.
@mariakara2419
3 жыл бұрын
yesss i appreciate that
@nindie
2 жыл бұрын
Yeah I relate to her
@sydneyfreund3933
3 жыл бұрын
claudia calling out vivian for saying “you didn’t have to get involved” when vivian almost dropped her for not getting involved was so important
@withcindy
3 жыл бұрын
EXACTLYYYYY
@emojis_withlove6219
3 жыл бұрын
that is so true!
@jerxiong5541
3 жыл бұрын
When the best friend called her out, about whiteness, and also said "because I'm not a coward unlike you"--my life changed. That was incredible. When was the last time a movie called out whiteness like this from an Asian person? Damn.
@withcindy
3 жыл бұрын
it was very satisfying to watch indeed
@mrsnufkinsan
3 жыл бұрын
Sry for being weird but i just wanted to say i find you beautiful
@theautismrizzler
3 жыл бұрын
When was the last time a movie called out whiteness PERIOD. I seriously cannot think of one!
@kevxxxedge
3 жыл бұрын
Perfect timing as well. And I don't mean in the movie. I mean in the world.
@Network-yp8de
3 жыл бұрын
damn straight
@xsomili5501
3 жыл бұрын
The bar is so low that we are celebrating the bare minimum of seth being a decent man 😭
@asroriadraws
3 жыл бұрын
The jerks overshadow the good guys 😔 like I'm 16 and I was trying to remember the not annoying guys in my school years up to now 💀✋🏿like some were just chill but I could tell they were nervous about not putting up with the ish from the other guys or else they'd get made fun of too so they just laughed along
@harutoSpring
3 жыл бұрын
i wouldn't say the bar is low looking at how people are rn :)
@melaninnrice9618
3 жыл бұрын
The bar is in hell and men put it there
@rishitaumasankaran7159
3 жыл бұрын
@@melaninnrice9618 truuu
@ananyasrivastava8771
3 жыл бұрын
But seth is bringing the skater boi charm and good style to the table too
@neruneru9713
3 жыл бұрын
Claudia talking about her mom's sacrifices for her and that she doesn't have the freedom to act as freely as main girl--THAT HIT HARD.
@withcindy
3 жыл бұрын
TELL IT CLAUDIA!
@harshiniyedevelli5278
3 жыл бұрын
It was so relatable though when you have that kind of background you can't really afford to make "mistakes"
@lia1tan
3 жыл бұрын
I wish I could’ve said something like that to my white friends growing up. They were always thinking that I didn’t care or had no true opinions just because I didn’t have the freedoms that they did to do certain things. At the time I was still living with internalized racism so I felt guilty and hated myself. Now I know better and is the reason why I’m not friends with those people anymore.
@kaybowling29
3 жыл бұрын
I love(d) a girl like this. Exactly like this. We were two Asian women dependent on our families. She and her mom were and will always be a team - the two of them against the world. Suffice it to say, our relationship didn't work out in the end. But I was and will always be so proud of her. It's such a heavy burden to bear and she's taking it all in as well as she could.
@bananas2002
3 жыл бұрын
I'm a white passing Latina that grew up with purely white people and their culture, so the imposter syndrome is STRONG! But I'm glad Claudia said what she said, it really reminded me that white privilege also applies to me, no matter how much of an immigrant I am, with immigrant parents and the culture I grew up in being mostly white outside my home. It was a harsh wake-up call, but a welcome one.
@AyaKay413
3 жыл бұрын
I swear I was almost crying when I saw Seth. They finally have a Asian male lead in a teen movie who ISNT EMASCULATED.😭 And he supports her so much and actually calls her out on her bs when sh*t goes wrong.
@thgritic102
3 жыл бұрын
Leave to a non-romance focus movie to do romance with a male character RIGHT! I was scared they were going to make his character horrible, but no he was amazing while calling out the main chick on her BS without sounding like a prick. I want more of him!
@seeexy
3 жыл бұрын
♡ aww this is such a cute coment
@cameerkat
3 жыл бұрын
the asian love interests always end up not working out too!!!
@Iquey
3 жыл бұрын
@@thgritic102 yeah I'm glad about this too. It shows you can speak up and defend yourself without being completely horrible. Seth is actually based.
@cierram8019
3 жыл бұрын
I am IN LOVE with him
@NikiLovesTL
3 жыл бұрын
I was shocked and kind of disappointed with Claudia's behaviour, but once I saw her mom, everything made sense and I just wanted to hug her because SIS THIS ASIAN RELATES 💀💀
@withcindy
3 жыл бұрын
PROTECT CLAUDIA!!
@vietnamwithkingsley.5506
3 жыл бұрын
People just don't get how much societal/familial pressure we are always under, just to be something that we are not.
@NikiLovesTL
3 жыл бұрын
@@vietnamwithkingsley.5506 EXACTLY! I don't like how we're always told to keep our heads down, grades up, and ignore the horrible things people say/do to us because karma????? Like, no thank you. I don't _want_ to inherit or encourage that kind of world. 🙅🏻♀️
@hwchen39
3 жыл бұрын
Yeah Claudia's story really hit home for me because it reminds me how fragile the model minority stereotype is. I remember when I was applying to college and the essay prompt was to tell them about a time when I "overcame adversity" and I wrote about a racist teacher I had in fourth grade. My immigrant parents thought it wasn't "appropriate" and told me I shouldn't talk about it. I was so hurt that I cried but I submitted the essay anyway and got into all the colleges I applied to. Now with the perspective I have I see that they thought they were protecting me because they were afraid if I was too outspoken about race that I would be seen as the problem and it would be easier to get rid of me than to change the system.
@vietnamwithkingsley.5506
3 жыл бұрын
@@hwchen39 another reason why I don't like self-help books coming out from author who's from developed countries. It gave a false impression that anyone can be like them without the context, without the safety net they could fall back to when theirs ventures turned south. The context of being a certain skin colour, being born in a certain countries in the world, being born in the certain time in history, could not be more lacking. It'd be not the scenario we would face or can be counted on for. It's just simply not it. Excuse me for my rant, but I've seen my fair share of those books in my book store advertising about a future for the minority/disable people who can not access all of those context at all.
@D3niz3n
3 жыл бұрын
I really like that the transgender character was just...there. She was just a person, as it should be.
@RandomFinds.c
3 жыл бұрын
I think the same. They all project the LGBT+ character like the only thing they have is their sexuality to be interesting, which is not.
@jgalletta
3 жыл бұрын
It’s cool that she was there for the sake of being one of the friend group, but I would have liked a side story that went a little deeper into her character. They centered a lot of problems young women face and were intersectional with racial issues, but I think there was a missed opportunity to explore a trans woman’s perspective.
@bigclitenergy
3 жыл бұрын
@@jgalletta yeah but idk I think it's nice that they made a trans gender character without making their entire existence about them just being trans for once
@oyinkansolaadebajo9716
3 жыл бұрын
@@jgalletta Yes! Also the disabled character, as a black disabled woman I was a bit disappointed by that.
@kennynelson7585
3 жыл бұрын
they did nothing with her character, i don’t even remember seeing her. not the rem y’all think it is.
@MarMarital
3 жыл бұрын
Calling out the main character?? In a teen movie???? Showing that they were wrong????
@withcindy
3 жыл бұрын
WHO WOULDA THOUGHT
@nobitanobi3475
3 жыл бұрын
As someone who is a teen , This has got to be the most accurate "teen" movie representation ever.
@Justtry4525
3 жыл бұрын
kinda reminded me of 'the edge if 17'. the main chara also gets called out there
@Zippyzappy339
3 жыл бұрын
Pack it up "Sierra Burgess is a big fat loser"
@asroriadraws
3 жыл бұрын
@@nobitanobi3475 SAME
@murron1125
3 жыл бұрын
The boyfriend was way better in the movie. In the book he was very “not all men”. Like at one point his girlfriend gets groped in the hall and he’s like, “well remember we’re not all like that”
@withcindy
3 жыл бұрын
EWWWWWWW NOOOOO
@rebecabeza
3 жыл бұрын
Yeah, I liked Seth a lot more. Like, he seemed to understand afterwards why "not all men" is problematic stance, but at the same time it always seemed like Vivian just let it slide because she likes him romantically or that it wasn't really that sincere
@carolbaskin1857
3 жыл бұрын
Wow it’s usually the others way around but I’m glad he’s better in the movie
@lesbiangoddess290
3 жыл бұрын
Yeah. The nastiness when I read it. I can't stand the not all men crap because yes we know but you are part of the problem by saying that shit because that means you have some guilt your holding on to.
@pokaay3163
3 жыл бұрын
Just people who bring up the “not all of us” argument when people are talking about discrimination or mistreatment in general is so bs, because yes, not all, but A LOT and that’s the point of it.
@pannieb731
3 жыл бұрын
I'm so glad that mitchell wasn't made into some kind of a sick and disgusting love interest. *glances at After*
@withcindy
3 жыл бұрын
same here!
@plumcvnt1937
3 жыл бұрын
@Emaan Ara Zaidi it's Josephine not Katherine
@saigie3908
3 жыл бұрын
NOT AFTER 😭
@emilycooper1602
3 жыл бұрын
NOT AFTER SDNJFS I HATE AFTER
@wonsandonly
3 жыл бұрын
Legit I was so scared that they were going to make him and Lucy love interests like an enemies to lovers type of thing ughhh
@Aster_Risk
3 жыл бұрын
As a white woman who grew up being little miss social justice and wanting to join every club (Gay-Straight Alliance, Human Rights Club, etc.) and save everyone, it was good to see the main character getting called out.
@sarcasm8007
3 жыл бұрын
There's a girl in my high school who is like this, she has good intentions but she comes across as downright annoying. I remember in like a group support group I vented about being stalked because I was gay and she rambled to me about how it was okay and that she was proud, and that she supported me and I was just like "um, thanks but I don't remember asking for your validation..." As if I I owed her any sort of explanation of my sexuality in the first place. 💀😶
@winterwonderland1491
3 жыл бұрын
I am the white girl who is becoming little miss. social justice and I know I am but I don't know how to stop. So any advice?
@sarcasm8007
3 жыл бұрын
@@winterwonderland1491 Look at it from an outsiders perspective. Don't overstep boundaries, it's okay to support others but don't be obnoxious about it.
@Me-wx1mt
3 жыл бұрын
As the gay, Asian best friend, *augh*
@Labinzel
3 жыл бұрын
@@winterwonderland1491 Honestly just listen to other people and be open to criticism
@xenonsan3110
3 жыл бұрын
When he spat in her soda I wanted her to so badly dump the entire drink on him
@oyinkansolaadebajo9716
3 жыл бұрын
My mom and I were watching this and she literally said the same thing!!
@xenonsan3110
3 жыл бұрын
@@oyinkansolaadebajo9716 it sounds like your mom and I would get along lol
@oyinkansolaadebajo9716
3 жыл бұрын
@@xenonsan3110 Lol
@KomandorNells
3 жыл бұрын
SAME!
@ginger6readspaceman
3 жыл бұрын
That scene made me so mad, I definitely would have. And I'm a super safe, no trouble person
@sawrirocks
3 жыл бұрын
Cindy is the Asian character calling out the white character's privilege, except SHE IS the main character.
@withcindy
3 жыл бұрын
GASP
@lesbiangoddess290
3 жыл бұрын
Periodt and finally. Now give us a black main character with DEPTH.
@marcgoodman4862
3 жыл бұрын
Mind... Blown!
@IgoIgoIgo
3 жыл бұрын
@@withcindy Cindy took a gasping breath, not realizing, she had been holding it.
@maddisonnotrae7568
3 жыл бұрын
**eyes pluck out due to shock**
@queen_of_the_moths
3 жыл бұрын
I felt like the white girl getting into activism thing was important, because it was exposing all of the things that can go wrong when someone starts to take action without having a full understanding of the issues she's supporting. So often, white savior characters are treated as being the only ones in the film who aren't racist or homophobic or whatever crap, but that isn't reflective of real life, where people have to unlearn these things. To me, that element really highlighted the fact that it takes work, self-awareness, and a willingness to grow and change to be a good ally. You never get to see a white girl called out by her non-white friends, and it plants that seed in the mind of baby social activist white girls that being an ally doesn't make you immune from ignorance.
@heatherwild2627
3 жыл бұрын
exactly, I used to be uneducated and I am a white (I'm mixed with hispanic but I don't know much about my culture nor do I live with my hispanic family. So I just go by white because I'm white passing and was raised as a white girl) and i started getting into politics and real life problems near the end of 9th grade. I realized woah, guys at my school SUCK and why do I have to deal with it?? Then the stuff with George Floyd happened and It woke me up. I have never been a racist person but I realized how many stereotypes I thought were true, and how I used to be fully supportive of the cops. Its taken a while, and I think I still have certain stereotypes about groups of people, and I try my hardest to push by them and educate myself and even my friends. like a white boy I met online was such a shitty person, but after I started at least attempting to teach him, he's learning. Neither of us are perfect, but we're learning :) also I think this movie could be a wake up call to specific white girls, or just girls period, about what's happening. I wish I could have watched it a while ago
@Crawlingdreams418
3 жыл бұрын
i'd also like to see someone address self-hating people from privileged groups in activism through a movie/tv show as well. i do agree that people should acknowledge wrongdoings and discrimination, but whining "oh, i'm so homophobic cuz i'm not sapphic" doesn't fucking help anyone. these mfs are reblogged all over twitter and instagram, and, tbh, that feels less like doing the right thing and more like an angst fest from someone's LiveJournal or AngelFire website.
@Sammy-dq6wt
3 жыл бұрын
exactly! i was thinking the same thing!
@spookyho5994
3 жыл бұрын
@@heatherwild2627 I went through a really similar phase, also being a mixed girl who’s white passing. The thing is, when I first learned how fucked up everything actually is and problems we face, I concentrated on things that happened in the USA specifically, even though I live in Germany. It’s good that I learned what was happening there, but not only did I not bother looking further into these issues in order to really understand why we need to talk about them, but I also didn’t see the problems going on in my own country and the prejudices my own mother who is Brazilian has to face by living here. And I realised that racism/sexism in Germany or other countries in general isn’t rly spoken about or how certain things are tolerated when they really shouldn’t be. I can make a change starting here and work on being an actual ally, not just a performative one and educating myself.
@LaughingInTiny
3 жыл бұрын
This is a fantastic comment. Much of the current dialog makes it seem like white people just have to sing a different tune to be an ally, not actually dig into their own place in the system. Also, if this is supposed to mimic real life they did a decent job of showing her confusion.. . Or rather, almost lack of confusion because she doesn't know enough yet to be confused? Her tangent at the dinner table was super annoying, but I may have had a tangent or two at that age "BECAUSE LIFE WAS SO UNFAAAAIR" (
@Bexdiggy
3 жыл бұрын
I think that the protagonist being white also helps to show the difference between the lengths women of color have to go to just to fight for what’s right, while the main character got away unpunished for the rebellion. It’s literally how society works, it’s an interesting way of showing how modern feminism favors the white woman to represent the movement, even though those who struggle the most are woc.
@underrated3145
3 жыл бұрын
F*cking facts
@glossyraspberries9124
3 жыл бұрын
Exactly.
@wolfidessdragondol
3 жыл бұрын
PREACH
@notzoitsa8261
3 жыл бұрын
THIS
@goldenbunnies4143
3 жыл бұрын
PREACH
@Atzuul61
3 жыл бұрын
I like how they listened to the white girl even though the black girl had been saying it the whole time
@jiminjams1543
3 жыл бұрын
I guess that’s a sad reality of the matter huh. I mean I’d probably see eye to eye with someone of my own ethnicity more easily than someone of another just cuz Idk there’s a weird sense of empathy there I guess? But yeah, yay for the white mc coming through with the wisdom cuz I think the other one was speaking a different language.
@illustryfe5354
3 жыл бұрын
It's realistic
@Ash-hx1jz
3 жыл бұрын
Yeah why didn't they just make the alternative black girl the main character? And the white girl her sidekick lol
@sp4c1ng_0ut8
3 жыл бұрын
@@Ash-hx1jz exactly. Black radicals for the win!
@purplecatloverrandompizza
3 жыл бұрын
I mean that IS sadly pretty realistic tbh
@cLeVeRbOoKwOrM123
3 жыл бұрын
Vivian trying to make her bff wear spaghetti straps is like telling a muslim girl to wear the same top and then be upset with her if she doesn't - we all show solidarity in different ways.
@withcindy
3 жыл бұрын
PERIODDDD
@sans-ii1yc
3 жыл бұрын
Apparently this school doesn't have Muslims btw and also people who just don't like showing skin because everyone wore it. EXCEPT ONE GIRL
@cLeVeRbOoKwOrM123
3 жыл бұрын
@@sans-ii1yc I think forcing someone to do something they are uncomfortable with is wrong.
@jina8960
3 жыл бұрын
i was gonna comment this i'm so glad you did thank you for mentioning it
@sans-ii1yc
3 жыл бұрын
@@cLeVeRbOoKwOrM123 no no that legit what I meant that they called out Claudia whereas so many people wouldn't have worn spighetti tops - (I was being sarcastic in the last part of that sentence - lmao sorry)
@zvvilq63
3 жыл бұрын
Some guy: has basic human decency and stands by women Cindy: yyEEAAAHHHH
@withcindy
3 жыл бұрын
LOL PRETTY MUCH
@giovanac4820
3 жыл бұрын
The bar is literally _so low_
@Ashley-Lopez
3 жыл бұрын
We gotta take what we can get lmao
@arriibacon531
3 жыл бұрын
@@PynkSpotsYT 😂😂😂😭
@sofie6524
3 жыл бұрын
I liked how Seth didnt pick up the fight for her, but supported her when it was needed. I don't think men necessarily have to speak on behalf of women cause that just further perpetuates the idea that we still need men to speak on our behalf to make change? Like, he showed his support with the hearts and stars, he gave the last vote and he pulled the MC back down when she became too much... Like, he normalises standing by and supporting feminism while not taking over the fight? Although Im still critical of that one scene where he got called out for being friends with Mitchell or something like that but..? Aside from that which I didnt exactly get, I found him to set the bar perfectly on how a male feminist can show his support and I feel like he deserved atleast something more than being average. I dunno, I personally think that he might be above the bar by a bit.
@Griggyboy7030
3 жыл бұрын
I loved that the main character was almost acting like a white savior for a bit it made it more realistic because all white people have to realize their privilege at some point now that she has she can start her growth
@Aster_Risk
3 жыл бұрын
I think that bit is important for so many white girls and women to see.
@Akihito007
2 жыл бұрын
Yea not like white people had to bust their asses off and invented almost every modern invention that everyone else relies on. If white people didn’t have to prop up everyone else while being bashed for it, MAYBE they wouldn’t be so mad for the West being bashed for being so great. EVERYONE who lives in America is privileged!
@user-xr4nw3pt2v
2 жыл бұрын
@@Akihito007 bro have you read a SINGLE book on history in your life that wasn't about how great white people are???
@Akihito007
2 жыл бұрын
@@user-xr4nw3pt2v Considering I went to University for History, white people HAVE been great in creating the West, the BEST society in the WORLD! North America, Oceania and Europe have the best GDP WORLDWIDE while Asia and Africa are the lowest. Africa is so dirt poor compared to the rest of the world that most of them are LUCKY to work all day for $1 a day. The West and white people have uplifted BILLIONS out of abject poverty just from our free market capitalism, inventions, medical knowledge and discoveries and on and on.
@cloudzero3674
Жыл бұрын
@@Akihito007jesus christ bro calm tf down 💀
@just-trying-my-best-everyday
3 жыл бұрын
"When I was 16, all I cared about was smashing the patriarchy and burning it all down." As a 16 year old, yes.
@voidpriestess8339
3 жыл бұрын
As a 15 year old, yes
@christie6515
3 жыл бұрын
as a 14 year old, yes 🙏🏼
@Clover12367
3 жыл бұрын
as an fetus yes
@thecriticalthinker4527
3 жыл бұрын
As a 14yr old boy yes
@rad7149
3 жыл бұрын
As a 13 yld child, yes
@leenas4ever
3 жыл бұрын
"I think you would make a great addition to the Ku Klux Klan" stone-faced, monotone, absolutely serious. Legend.
@withcindy
3 жыл бұрын
i aint wrong thooooo
@toadinbag
3 жыл бұрын
This is how I started my day, with THIS video. Automatic day made.
@fantasyfan6037
3 жыл бұрын
That absolutely KILLED me. Also how they had that chip halfway to their mouth. Sign of superior wit!
@sophiecrophie7540
3 жыл бұрын
Okay some parts of the movie were better than the book, but there was this amazing part in the book where in response to the dress code rules , Moxie didn't tell the girls to dress in tank tops, but actually big fluffy bathrobes over their clothes so they were in absolutely no danger of distracting the precious male students. And in class, the teacher notices one girl wearing it and tells her to take it off so she goes lmao sure and takes it off and she's only wearing a bright red bikini top under it. It was great
@sophiecrophie7540
3 жыл бұрын
Also this isn't related but Cindy I started watching Julie and the Phantoms because you recommended it please validate me. The Other Side of Hollywood is such a god damn bop right?!
@withcindy
3 жыл бұрын
all the songs in JATP are a bop!! :D
@ramiyahlee6108
3 жыл бұрын
I remember that part it was ICONIC
@sophiecrophie7540
3 жыл бұрын
@@ramiyahlee6108 YES. I get why they simplified it but IMAGINE how iconic it would be to see on screen
@nesspuckridge9816
3 жыл бұрын
THAT PART WAS AWESOME
@empressmarowynn
3 жыл бұрын
I spent like a whole decade in school being bullied and harassed. And the school's response was always "oh he just has a crush on you." Dude, tying rubber bands in my hair, spitting chewed up crayons at me, and telling his friends how many fingers he thinks he can shove inside me is not the way to go about expressing a crush, and these incidents were all different boys. And I always physically fought back which meant I was constantly in trouble, but never the boys. It took me putting two of them in the hospital for it to finally stop instead of the school putting an end to it years earlier like it should have. But we need to defend the fragile egos of white men because they're the most important.
@cameerkat
3 жыл бұрын
yes. this.
@rpcsa8
3 жыл бұрын
@@brolly2612 yeah yeah, we know bro. Women can harrass people as well which is equally as bad. But OP never said Women can’t do wrong, she was just calling out the school for not wanting to take repsonsibility. Hell the same would probably happen anyway in the school if the genders were switched since it seems their standards are so broken they probably wouldn’t care either way.
@cheriremily9360
3 жыл бұрын
@@brolly2612 I'm sorry that happened to you. Sexual assault is wrong no matter the gender of the molester.
@sofiaboo6739
3 жыл бұрын
@@brolly2612 women can be bad too but she's sharing her experience as a girl being harassed by boys so you couldn't expect her to say "oh, but women harass men too" it doesn't even make sense in that context
@sofiaboo6739
3 жыл бұрын
I'm so sorry you had to go through that, I hate that schools all over the world still do stuff like that, it's 2021, this kind of attitude is long overdue
@sk8aintstr813
3 жыл бұрын
watching cindy being hit with the comebacks these side characters gave at the main girl was probably the most satisfying thing I ever saw
@withcindy
3 жыл бұрын
my feelings were hurt and i aint even the main character
@KimmikooBlossom
3 жыл бұрын
I love how this movie kind of breaks the “ride or die” mentality because people think that as a friend you should go along with everything your friend does. But a healthy relationship is all about to show criticism and don’t let your friend continue their bad behavior cause actions does effect others.
@lottie7813
3 жыл бұрын
I’m white and the “u don’t get it cuz ur white” scene rly made me think a lot and I love it for that
@sarcasm8007
3 жыл бұрын
Genuinely like I can't imagine the shit we take for granted on a daily basis and don't even think twice about it. 💀💀💀💀
@airmaxy7377
3 жыл бұрын
I seriously appreciate you guys not getting offended over that line
@Network-yp8de
3 жыл бұрын
@@sarcasm8007 fuck...
@sarcasm8007
3 жыл бұрын
@@airmaxy7377 Nothing to be offended about it's true and I admire it, I didn't see it coming because no movie had ever had the guts to say it but this one did which I thought was incredibly shocking, funny but also really admirable to do.
@wendys_lemonade2459
3 жыл бұрын
yes!!! our privilege does so much more than we think it does, I feel like that moment was needed for me
@timefliesaway999
3 жыл бұрын
Why do American schools even have counselors if they don’t do their job Like a school without a counselor would probably work the same
@vocaloidlover81
3 жыл бұрын
You'd be surprised how many counselors gossip about students using full names behind their back, it's why a lot of students I knew when I was in school didn't trust them.
@genericspectator3094
3 жыл бұрын
they’re usually there to schedule classes and shit. still a problem that they don’t do shit though
@nunyabusiness3652
3 жыл бұрын
When my cousin learned what her school counselor did when the school had a meeting about mental health, after her sister had a mental breakdown; the school counselor had the audacity to straight up brought a bag of popcorn and eating them during the whole meeting.
@timefliesaway999
3 жыл бұрын
@@vocaloidlover81 I’m not even surprised anymore when it comes to American counselors I’m just wondering why schools still have them
@sarcasm8007
3 жыл бұрын
In my highschool they're too involved and it's annoying as fuck.
@christie6515
3 жыл бұрын
mitchell is that type of person that you would want to punch so bad to the point that he actually cries. IM SO ANGRY AT HIM WHAT THE FUCK
@withcindy
3 жыл бұрын
hes so grossss
@christie6515
3 жыл бұрын
@@withcindy everytime he comes onscreen i wanna 🤜🏽👨🏼
@cattrickie
3 жыл бұрын
HIS FACE INVOKES A RAGE FROM DEEP INSIDE ME
@burcuterzioglu4778
3 жыл бұрын
@@christie6515 omg that emoji is literally him
@hkazu63
3 жыл бұрын
Honestly, I’d usually mock this type of thinking, but it’s SO PALPABLE in him. He could just be standing there breathing and it would ENRAGE me.
@GorloftheMonth
3 жыл бұрын
Mitchell is a real life manifestation of thriller tropes being integrated in romance movies
@withcindy
3 жыл бұрын
NOOOOOOOO
@princessmanitari4993
3 жыл бұрын
Promising Young Woman (the movie) says hello.
@erinprizant5542
3 жыл бұрын
The way that white dude acted reminds me of someone who started stalking me in college. The teacher didn't seem to care, either, even tho I only went to him to inform him of my concerns and to ask not to be paired with him for any class activities; the teacher just kept being like "are you sure you're not overreacting?" That honestly traumatized me more than the stalking at that point. That was a miserable semester.
@withcindy
3 жыл бұрын
EWWWW NOOOOO
@ariahazelwood3842
3 жыл бұрын
I'm sorry Erin 😐
@Heidi2003
3 жыл бұрын
I'm so sorry
@princessmanitari4993
3 жыл бұрын
Hope you're doing okay now! Stay safe & be safe.
@georgiaberg3619
3 жыл бұрын
I'm so sorry that happened to you! :( I just recently had an uncomfortable interaction with a male classmate at uni and I finally talked to my lecturer about it & said I was fine with switching to distance learning, my lecturer said he's going to make HIM switch and just truly validated my whole experience. I never expected such a wonderful response and I really hope there are more lecturers like mine out there :( 💙
@maep3048
3 жыл бұрын
not gonna lie, i think it’s interesting that the main character is white because her being called out like that by her friends is a bit of a fuck you against the white savior trope. not entirely since she still is the instigator of the saving movement but the movie makes it known that none of the characters of color could’ve kicked it off so radically without facing bigger consequences than her. e.g. claudia with her mom and facing immediate consequences by association and lucy not being taken seriously at all by authorities and being adultified, which are very real and terrible issues that affect people every single day. by having us see this in direct opposition to the privileged white girl we spend the most time with i think it really highlights these differences when we are reminded of them. not saying that this was an amazing decision in general but i do see value in it in this specific case. maybe i’m reaching or being too optimistic but that’s the effect it had on me at least lol
@conniethesconnie
3 жыл бұрын
I hated the idea that an author can only write people of their own ethnicity. It's fiction. It's not an autobiography. The author should be able to take on whatever persona they desire. If a privileged white woman can develop an interesting lead character who is a gay asian male why not go for it.
@gabrielablazejova4143
3 жыл бұрын
@@conniethesconnie maybe she wanted to portrait herself and like Cindy said, people would call her out
@hanaomer4419
3 жыл бұрын
@@conniethesconnie I can see why people don’t like it tho because it’s not your story to tell. How many published books are there with gay Asian leads? Not many if any at all. So why is a white women able to get those stories out there? Why is she able to tell our stories for us? Also there’s the problem of how stories told by outsiders are prone to be problematic or incorrect. Like how male writes almost always _suck_ at writing not just female characters but feminism as well. So it’s not that you can’t write for other ethnicities but in some cases you have to think about whether you should.
@fey__3919
3 жыл бұрын
@@conniethesconnie Because the author is a white woman and most of the story comes from the perspective of a white woman. It's easy to write about characters who are nothing like ourselves, but when it comes to personal life and characters thoughts and background it's more personal and detailed. As a white woman I could write about a character of any race or background... but when it comes to a first person P.O.V I can only write about white women... since I am a white woman... can't really be out here assuming the lives and thoughts of black women just because I want a black female lead...
@marcusjoe3618
3 жыл бұрын
"White women on Twitter be like..." I'm DYING!
@withcindy
3 жыл бұрын
its true thoooo
@marcusjoe3618
3 жыл бұрын
@@withcindy Hence, my earlier death. Luckily I have been resurrected so I can enjoy more of your movie reactions :D
@Gaburierairuze
3 жыл бұрын
The salad scene is exactly what a lot of people think feminist are all like because they saw the wrath of an uneducated pissed off person on Twitter reaching over the smallest of things 🙃
@emmamichelsohn7515
3 жыл бұрын
To me the salad scene was simply an overwhelmed child reaching her breaking point. It wasn't about any of the issues at that point, it was a 16-year-old girl who was confused and scared and facing a situation she no longer had any clue how to fix (not that she had any clue to begin with). I think the actress portrayed the emotional breaking point very well.
@funnyvalentine1848
3 жыл бұрын
Tbh yeah- It gives them a bad Reputation and I can say that it affects lots of people's POV on stuff
@Leoji0325
3 жыл бұрын
When the boyfriend and the best friend were blunt with her it was my favorite part tbh, like she was only thinking about herself the whole time and not how it'd affect others
@amphitritemists4595
3 жыл бұрын
What made me so mad was that when Vivian came clean, all her friends were like "suspend me too I was also involved." Where was all this when Claudia was getting the Asian parent lecture. My parents would freak out if I got a B let alone if I came home telling them I got suspended. Everyone should have worked together to get Claudia's named redeemed. And you know that if Vivian wrote this in her college applications she would be praised as an activist whereas Claudia getting suspended would just look so bad on her record.
@raizel1155
3 жыл бұрын
exactly they were so dismissive when claudia got suspended but stood up for vivian..did not sit right with me.
@aimun5255
3 жыл бұрын
I literally thought Lucie was the main character, talking about racism WITH sexism I'm 😭😭 after years of movies choosing one or the other, I can't believe I'm so emotional about the bare minimum
@cryforhelp7270
3 жыл бұрын
They've been starving us for so long the bare minimum seems like enough lmfao
@cryforhelp7270
3 жыл бұрын
You're not alone tho... I got super emotional too!!!
@withcindy
3 жыл бұрын
its the bare minimum and yet here we are😭😭😭
@dejajade6726
3 жыл бұрын
When I first saw the trailer I was like why didn't they make her the main character instead 👀👀
@lesbiangoddess290
3 жыл бұрын
Literally same.
@UmbraKrameri
3 жыл бұрын
I personally liked how the trans girl was integrated into this story. After the year of the TERF wars, it was just refreshing that she was just... there. And no one questioned that. It was a bit unrealistic but in a wholesome way. Also that some characters were just casual lesbians.
@hideakisorachi3953
3 жыл бұрын
I'm writing a story rn and the main characters are lesbians. the story is really cliche and the writing isnt phenomenal, but it's nice to write about queer characters just existing. I read books and watch shows for escapism, so it's kinda tiring when you have to deal with homophobia/transphobia in real life and in media as well all. of course it's important to not disregard issues, but I just wanna read a cute story sometimes.
@lunaticindigo5004
3 жыл бұрын
@@hideakisorachi3953 i need to see this story
@D3niz3n
3 жыл бұрын
I love it, reminds me of my friend group in secondary school
@cynthiaanderson6410
3 жыл бұрын
The actress is actually trans as well which is really really cool
@hideakisorachi3953
3 жыл бұрын
it's on wattpad! it's called "bones of rust"
@titotobi-lawal2083
3 жыл бұрын
the part where the afrolatina and 'sassy' black girl kissed took me out because it was out of nowhere and they did nothing to carry on a relationship lmao
@withcindy
3 жыл бұрын
they truly were like "lets give a SPRINKLE of lgbt+ representation"
@aniya5169
3 жыл бұрын
It wouldn’t be Netflix if they didn’t add a random lgbtq+ couple
@artsysundae
3 жыл бұрын
RIGHT i was so confused lmaoo
@cynthiaanderson6410
3 жыл бұрын
Right? My first thought was that it could be cute if there was literally any build up
@sydeLPS
3 жыл бұрын
This is in the book too and it's so damn weird omg
@Sammy-dq6wt
3 жыл бұрын
I really like the fact that Vivian didn't shut down after receiving criticism from her POC friends. I think it's really easy to be self-centered in that moment and hate yourself for being a bad person, but Vivian took the criticism, learned from her mistakes, and did better. Most importantly, I feel like she realized how much she was centering this all around herself and stopped.
@Sammy-dq6wt
2 жыл бұрын
@@Ika0713 yeah i really should've phrased that better. I guess what I was trying to say is that she didn't immediately get defensive after receiving criticism. And maybe I was project just a bit on the self hate part yikes.
@alittlefruitfairy
3 жыл бұрын
“Ooo if you use that word I have to do all this work” HE👏SPIT👏IN👏HER👏SODA
@withcindy
3 жыл бұрын
SO DISGUSTINGGG
@marcgoodman4862
3 жыл бұрын
Obvious rape subtext is obvious.
@barbllz
3 жыл бұрын
@@marcgoodman4862 1really? i didnt got it im dumb lol
@marcgoodman4862
3 жыл бұрын
@@barbllz Maybe it's just me. He deposited bodily fluids into her can without her consent. That seemed like a metaphor to me.
@tartra
3 жыл бұрын
@@marcgoodman4862It's its own action, separate from being a metaphor, but you're right to also see it as a metaphor. This is just as much about entitlement and power over someone else as rape is - but on a much smaller scale. I recommend treating it as foreshadowing for the actual rape subplot, especially since *having* a rape subplot means they don't need to rely on this as subtext for that. They might've if that subplot didn't exist, though.
@sethrayne8076
3 жыл бұрын
i'm actually kind of glad that the protagonist was white and was constantly called out, the movie showed how you can have good intentions but end up hurting the people you were fighting for, and i think that it's nice for a white director to call themselves and their community out. lord knows we need it
@mcarts4722
3 жыл бұрын
Me, turning 22: “Now I’m just a bitter, cynical, old hag”
@withcindy
3 жыл бұрын
same
@lesbiangoddess290
3 жыл бұрын
Mood
@miriamhdez4746
3 жыл бұрын
I feel you
@musicalnerds101
3 жыл бұрын
Relatable
@strangersopinion8243
3 жыл бұрын
Damn, that was really spot on.
@abbaliciouz7208
3 жыл бұрын
She didn't put the clip in the video, but the women who was raped in the video mentioned that Mitchell was her boyfriend at the time, and I love that they brought up that fact. For anyone that doesn't know, DATING DOES NOT EQUAL CONSENT!
@laurenkathleen2221
3 жыл бұрын
I really hope there is more representation in media, especially teen movies. It sucks to consistently see POC as side characters instead of the main character. However, I loved that the movie didn't shy away from pointing out the main girl's white privilege. They didn't show her as a "savior" character that was perfect and helping save all of these other girls. Most of the ideas came from Lucy, and Lucy was seen as the leader a lot of the time as well. The criticism is valid and highlighting stories that feature POC is very important, but I think this is also an important story to tell.
@withcindy
3 жыл бұрын
i agree!
@pogpogpog7507
3 жыл бұрын
honestly I think it would have been more problematic if the white author had written the main character as a POC. like cindy said, it's not the white author's place to write from the perspective of a POC when she doesn't share the life experiences she wishes to speak on. I think she wrote it the right way - white girl main character who gets deservingly called out for her flaws. I'd absolutely love to see more POC main characters, but not written by white people.
@Graid
3 жыл бұрын
@@pogpogpog7507 Up until very recently I feel like everyone was saying 'write characters who aren't like you as main characters, research things carefully, don't settle for just having main characters who are just like you in background, ethnicity, etc when we are so in need of representation of marginalised groups as more than just side characters'. And now it's like a weird sudden cultural 180- I've read MULTIPLE things suddenly acting like it's a transgression and 'problematic' for a white person to write something with a not-white protagonist. White people should only write white main characters now?
@tenten1153
3 жыл бұрын
@@Graid it’s not about white authors should only write white characters, just that they need to be careful about the kinds of stories they tell about BIPOC. white people are often given the opportunity to write stories about the lives and cultures of BIPOC, while BIPOC authors are often not given those same opportunities to write about our own cultures because it’s often been labeled “unmarketable” and “alienating” to a white audience when we do so. Basically, we want white people to write diversely but to not tell stories that are so deeply intimate to the lives of BIPOC. For example, writing an asian character for your fantasy story is fine, but writing a story about an asian american immigrant and their life and struggles as an asian american immigrant is odd because, like Cindy said at the end of her video, “thats not a white person’s story to tell.” it’s better to advocate for BIPOC to tell our own stories rather than white people taking and telling those stories themselves, thereby profiting off the life experiences of BIPOC. the shift from “write more BIPOC into your stories” to “stay in your lane, leave the intimate BIPOC stories to BIPOC” ISNT a contradiction but just an expansion of the conversation
@pogpogpog7507
3 жыл бұрын
@@Graid there's a difference between non-POC writing POC characters and non-POC writing POC characters discussing POC issues that they haven't experienced nor will ever truly understand.
@ramshafarooq
3 жыл бұрын
Bruh when I first watched this movie, I legit cried at the part when the movie showed different instances where the girls were getting legit harrassed (that guy trying to take Emma's pom poms aggressively, or that shirt throw, or that guy being obnoxious etc.) and no one batted an eye because we're just so used to accepting everything guys do as "immature, childish behaviour" when it's clearly not. Like Lucy says, they're not "annoying", they're straight up dangerous.
@withcindy
3 жыл бұрын
yup, this is how it escalates. it's always the small things first
@Network-yp8de
3 жыл бұрын
boys will be b̶o̶y̶s̶ held accountable for their actions
@Vanessa-fk2om
3 жыл бұрын
I remember being taken aside by a teacher for wearing a tank top with spaghetti straps. She told me to go home and change and I just went to my next class. NO TIME FOR GAMES I GOTTA LEARN ABOUT THE PYTHAGOREAN THEOREM
@withcindy
3 жыл бұрын
GOOD FOR U
@shreya-fg5mu
3 жыл бұрын
OK QUEEN
@air_hum
3 жыл бұрын
A²+B²=C² SUPREMACY >:|
@Skinniest_Kween
3 жыл бұрын
Fun fact: The generic looking high school white boy is actually Arnold Schwarzenegger's son in real life.
@NyxToStyx
3 жыл бұрын
I guess he does a really good job at playing a very unlikable character... he seemed nice in real life tho
@Skinniest_Kween
3 жыл бұрын
@@NyxToStyx yeah, he's really sweet irl.
@ThePinkHamster190
3 жыл бұрын
I always feel bad for the actors that have to play the asshole characters bc they’ll have hella people coming for them. I’m sure that he’s a nice chill guy irl but the character is a walking ick which is kinda the point lol
@mynameisreallycool1
3 жыл бұрын
@@ThePinkHamster190 Yeah, if he were just like the character in the movie, he wouldn't be in this movie that supports feminist messages in the first place.
@lauriex8832
3 жыл бұрын
HE HAS A SON?!
@Dinomater_
3 жыл бұрын
"Because sometimes the only way that they'll stop is if you fucking punch them in the face" I hate how true this is
@withcindy
3 жыл бұрын
yep...
@lesbiangoddess290
3 жыл бұрын
Yup and if we use violence or seem threatening we're the bitch or the problem or being too aggressive, when there is a literal privileged white boy creep standing right next to you knowing hes going to get away with everything because he exists. I-
@annie2845
3 жыл бұрын
:(
@avekatumba4794
3 жыл бұрын
Not this movie low-key snapping. I'm impressed that they didn't give the yt man a redemption arc as they do for a lot of trashy men in netflix shows.
@withcindy
3 жыл бұрын
good, as he shouldnt!!
@jungyoungjin5914
3 жыл бұрын
I agree. He shouldn't hv a redemption arc because he started as a loser and ended up like a loser
@lottevanderpaelt1684
3 жыл бұрын
I feel for these characters so hard. I never understood why we couldn't wear skirts that were 'too short' or spaghetti straps to school, while guys didn't have any restrictions at all. One time, my friend got called out by the teacher because she was wearing a shirt with long sleeves, but the shoulders were kind of cut out of it, so according to that teacher, it was "a bit too sexy"...
@roselover411
3 жыл бұрын
Right? Like, you would rather patrol our fashion choices rather than teach the guys to get their brains away from their dicks? Seriously, come on! Teach men to respect women and not be concerned with what we choose to wear, teach them how to focus so that we don't become this 'huge distraction' for them, teach them that regardless what we're wearing, it does not constitute "she was asking for it" as an excuse!
@withcindy
3 жыл бұрын
yep it really goes to show how girls already get sexualized at a young age
@emmalijewski8302
3 жыл бұрын
That sucks and uncomfortable. I wore a shirt like that to school once and no one said anything, in fact a lot of girls wore shirts like that
@mahi93162
3 жыл бұрын
@@roselover411 also I feel like some guys don't even care, it's the teachers just making a big deal about it or creepy male teachers who sexualize their students
@just-trying-my-best-everyday
3 жыл бұрын
If a teacher says a student is a bit too sexy, he shouldn't be a teacher.
@Naniru87
3 жыл бұрын
Seth is raising the bar so high for all the other love interests in this kind of movie. I almost feel sorry for them. Almost
@bekcha4170
3 жыл бұрын
Sad thing is how low that bar is that basic respect, human decency and support is considered a high bar.
@hat7475
3 жыл бұрын
@@bekcha4170 it is😔❗
@femmefatale4442
3 жыл бұрын
The main girl is like paper, white and fragile, and she got torn like paper when the characters called her bullshit out.
@withcindy
3 жыл бұрын
oop--
@dexfatarm
3 жыл бұрын
*yes*
@heatherwild2627
3 жыл бұрын
I mean yes, but I think her character being like that made the movie better. If they had made her some perfect woke warrior (like they constantly try to do) it would've felt so fucking fake
@asroriadraws
3 жыл бұрын
@@heatherwild2627 yeah even the problems with vivian i LOVE because it's just so realistic? Like it's not automatically sunshine and rainbows, and her breaking down crying just showed that she bottled stuff up while trying to handle stuff herself while lashing out at others (which was unfair to them). At first I thought it was random but now I think that's actually more realistic; I'm the same age as these characters so I kinda felt that
@paperbutterfly
3 жыл бұрын
The book, for me, has a lot of depth and feelings that the movie missed. Spoiler alert, in the walk-out scene, the girls didn't immediately run out of the door. Only a few minutes after the bell rang did one girl stood up, and it was Emma. Before she walked out, she said something like "F*ck you Mitchell." Only then the girls did leave the room.
@Onelargefriesplease
3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for sharing 😊
@GorloftheMonth
3 жыл бұрын
Why do we always have at least one poorly treated main girl in teenage high school movies? LUCY AND RACHEL RIGHTS😤✊✨✨
@thecriticalthinker4527
3 жыл бұрын
Same
@withcindy
3 жыл бұрын
i know lucy would protect rachel
@alicat7633
3 жыл бұрын
Kind of the point of moxie is that they are poorly treated.
@OctoberLotus
3 жыл бұрын
As a white person, I actually like that they took this white girl with her “good intentions” and gave her a dose of reality. Teach more kids that you can be an ally without taking away from those you’re supposed to be supporting.
@saotastic
3 жыл бұрын
“I love all these kids! They are so cute!” Me too distracted that they are all 23-27 year olds playing 16-17 year olds...
@withcindy
3 жыл бұрын
they got the SPIRIT
@123biler
3 жыл бұрын
It's a hard work in unsafe environment. I'm fine with actual kids not doing it 😊
@TheSamuelbest12
3 жыл бұрын
Really??? I knew they were not 15-16, but I thought they were 18-22
@biazacha
3 жыл бұрын
@@123biler hard agree, we have way too much child stars having it rough once they reach adulthood.
@circlinq
3 жыл бұрын
"Cover up, so we can all keep on learning" If I ever hear someone saying this to my students I'll throw chalk
@withcindy
3 жыл бұрын
as u should
@okaysoanyways2645
3 жыл бұрын
Girl... chalk? nah throw the whole chalk BOARD at them
@circlinq
3 жыл бұрын
@@okaysoanyways2645 1. physically impossible jdksfhdkjf 2. and to be honest we don't even have chalkboards anymore 😂 I'll throw whatever is in my reach
@okaysoanyways2645
3 жыл бұрын
@@circlinq Throw a desk💀💀💀
@JackedThor-so
3 жыл бұрын
That principle lady triggered hella reactions out of me. We had a similar type as the principle when I was in high school. True story: friend of mine was being harassed over the school servers by the resident creep and when he was punished by having his chromebook taken away she had hers taken as well. The reason? She *dared* to try and reason with him and not aggravate him into a violent frenzy (again, weird rapey creep) and they precieved that as her "being compliant." I just...
@withcindy
3 жыл бұрын
ugh so sorry you had to deal with that :(
@redgoldcrown3990
3 жыл бұрын
what the fuck?? so if you try not to escalate you're "being compliant" but if you don't take their shit you're "letting him get under your skin". what the hell was your friend supposed to do, just take it lying down? Jesus.
@JackedThor-so
3 жыл бұрын
@@redgoldcrown3990 it was a VERY conservative area - I guess they expected her to make him a sandwich or something. It really sucks! 🙁
@sevietan93
3 жыл бұрын
honestly, claudia deserved so much more. and a better friend too. ma girl got suspended for vivian and vivian didn't even apologize to her properly, she just ignored her even after claudia confronted her, like, twice. (one on before vivian went to the funeral home with seth and the one where vivian went to claudia's house) but even at the end claudia still went there to support her. claudia deserved better.
@atrainofthought99
3 жыл бұрын
And Seth deserved a better girlfriend
@cassualtea2040
3 жыл бұрын
@@atrainofthought99 Claudia and Seth should have been friends, Claudia needed the support.
@atrainofthought99
3 жыл бұрын
@@cassualtea2040 agreed and plus they could relate to each other more.
@RockArtist1999
3 жыл бұрын
"YOU DON'T GET WHAT'S GOING ON WITH ME BECAUSE YOU'RE WHITE" SIS SPILLING FACTSSSSSS
@withcindy
3 жыл бұрын
she went for the JUGULAR
@ladytalksalot4097
3 жыл бұрын
Right, because why have a conversation about different family dynamics, different culture, and different socioeconomic factors when you can just say, "you can't understand because of an immutable trait you had no say in so just shut up". How not-racist of you.
@cyagami90
3 жыл бұрын
@@ladytalksalot4097 the fact that this is how you took it is very white privelege of you
@rexcabrera8398
3 жыл бұрын
@@ladytalksalot4097 are we pretending that all those other things you mentioned aren't related to race... cause they are... that is intersectionality.
@Alsyoutubeaccount
3 жыл бұрын
I feel like her having a liberal mother was the reason she didn’t get it, not just because she’s white. There are a lot of white people, myself included, who had very strict parents and couldn’t do everything other kids did which they didn’t understand because their parents let them do whatever they want. Maybe it would make more sense in the context of the entire film, but just from that scene, it seemed weird to say she doesn’t get it because she’s white.
@momoredel2295
3 жыл бұрын
I love how Cindy knows the plot to everything before even finishing it.
@withcindy
3 жыл бұрын
predicting teen movies is my forte
@reganl3059
3 жыл бұрын
I just read a lot of fanfiction lol
@pastelhotmess9299
3 жыл бұрын
YA novels really do be predictable sometimes
@77Amnita
3 жыл бұрын
Girl, shit like this happened with me in high school. I was told to wear shorts and tank tops by some of the other girls in class to show solidarity, but I come from a very conservative Latino houshold so there was no way I was gonna do that. I would have gotten into so much trouble at home. It resulted in those girls in class bullying me, calling me a " stuck up prude". So that scene where Claudia calls out Vivian on all her shit really hit home.
@warmersquid9108
3 жыл бұрын
I think the main character being white, the writer of the book being white is like, yes good thing she didn’t try to write from the perspective of another race. I personally thought the main character was super relatable. She dealt with almost everything exactly how I would’ve. And having her be white and be called out on so many things because of that really made me look at myself and be like, ok, just because I’m a woman doesn’t mean I’m so incredibly oppressed. I am the least oppressed woman. I’m white, and straight, and cis. Idk, I thought it was nice to have a wake up call to that thing because I think once women like me get sucked into the feminism and sexism, we forget to acknowledge our insane privilege amongst other women and races of other genders. Idk if that’s unpopular, but that’s just my opinion. I might be swayed considering I related immensely to the main character solely on personality.
@kailiasage
3 жыл бұрын
Cindy clapping for the WOC: oh wait why am I clapping It’s okay Cindy we’re all rooting for the BIPOC
@withcindy
3 жыл бұрын
ALWAYS
@mayakane9978
3 жыл бұрын
What's a BIPOC?
@kailiasage
3 жыл бұрын
@@mayakane9978 Black, Indigenous, and People of Color WoC or WOC is women of color
@mayakane9978
3 жыл бұрын
@@kailiasage thank you
@laurynf_
3 жыл бұрын
@@kailiasage THIS WHOLE TIME I THOUGHT IT WAS BISEXUAL PEOPLE OF COLOR I- 💀
@dewekiwi9602
3 жыл бұрын
Why couldn’t Lucy be the main character? I love her style and it would’ve been cool to see all of this from the perspective of a POC
@withcindy
3 жыл бұрын
yea i wish this was a miniseries so we couldve dived into everyones POVs more!
@mahi93162
3 жыл бұрын
that's true but I think it's based on an actual book
@artsysundae
3 жыл бұрын
ikr!
@ehhhno9932
3 жыл бұрын
I genuinely thought she was the love interest at first
@artsysundae
3 жыл бұрын
@@ehhhno9932 same!! Especially when they were shopping
@chantellew1782
3 жыл бұрын
Hi, mortician here: them being in that casket together is so freaking illegal and would cost them so much cash! (They would have to buy the casket;once someone is in it, can’t recycle). I know it’s just a movie, but that sent me to the moon
@withcindy
3 жыл бұрын
OOOOHHH thats so bad!! i mean they snuck in so no one will know. but that means someone will buy a casket that has already been used!
@chantellew1782
3 жыл бұрын
Also, that was likely an extended size casket. Standard caskets are a good fit for one person on their back, maybe two v thin people on their sides, but you’d still probably have to shove them in.
@luzelenaserrano1236
3 жыл бұрын
That FELT illegal, makes sense that it's not allowed
@deadlykur0mi275
3 жыл бұрын
I love that Seth isn't just a love interest, he's a great friend and so supportive! He also called Vivian out on her bs and we stan that here😌💅 also love that Claudia didn't try to go against her mom just because Vivian wanted to.
@aimun5255
3 жыл бұрын
I felt the Asian girl thing so much, as a person from the new generation with all these grand ideas about feminism but with parents from a very traditional upbringing, it's so hard to even speak up about these things bc of how culturally embedded it is for women to be idk quieter and not act like a "spoilt lil white girl"
@withcindy
3 жыл бұрын
i hope u will be able to find ur voice someday
@viennn_le
3 жыл бұрын
EXACTLY!
@zuhasajid900
2 жыл бұрын
So TRUE!
@georgia5026
3 жыл бұрын
"I've been nothing but supportive of you, I don't deserve to be your punching bag" I liked this, calling it like it is. Nice
@nerdy_evy
3 жыл бұрын
That really nice Asian guy made me so happy for some reason when he put the star on his hand. Like you're cute, nice, respectful and thoughtful!?!?!!?! I love him already. Like marry me
@withcindy
3 жыл бұрын
HE IS THE BEST
@nerdy_evy
3 жыл бұрын
@@withcindy the only problem is he's really raising my standards
@ColaLoser
3 жыл бұрын
Man also sets healthy boundaries and knows his worth in a relationship??
@ellax325
3 жыл бұрын
@@nerdy_evy Seth was well written despite the fact that we didn't get much backstory about him. I appreciate his complexity.
@livenitup862
3 жыл бұрын
He is GOALS. He is so so so cute. Like-could more men be like him? Please ???
@dayan6514
3 жыл бұрын
I was literally holding my breath the whole movie scared that Seth was gonna become the stereotypical boyfriend in teen movies that support her till he does something problematic and then wins her back at the end with the bare minimum love confession. But they didn’t do that with his character and I was so happy
@Gayu4567
3 жыл бұрын
Cindy predicting the entire plot of the movie at 7:00 minute mark has me dyING
@withcindy
3 жыл бұрын
always
@saotastic
3 жыл бұрын
Also “I miss having that Moxie. Now I’m just a bitter, cynical old hag.” I FEEL THAT SO HARD. I’m exhausted, just let the world end! 🙃
@withcindy
3 жыл бұрын
me too just let me rest
@psychedelicpegasus7587
3 жыл бұрын
"Hag" has power. Me and my best friend use it as a term of endearment and respect between us.
@emmytong8784
3 жыл бұрын
This movie should have had any of the Poc characters as the protagonist tho to show struggles from their perspective Also the fact this movie was filmed at my school has me SHOOK
@francescakyanda9182
3 жыл бұрын
I haven't even watched the movie and that was the first thing I asked about
@moldyboy354
3 жыл бұрын
but how would they market it to wheat liberals then 😔😔😔😔 then the only character they could relate to is the woman hating jock guy !! /s
@Gayu4567
3 жыл бұрын
LITERALLY!!!! Much better movie w any of the POC/LGBT charas
@ww.DuzaFizz
3 жыл бұрын
I had an idea that it would've worked if the story stayed the same, but it was told from Claudia's perspective.
@thecriticalthinker4527
3 жыл бұрын
Same
@NekoElf1269
3 жыл бұрын
The only problem I have with this movie is how at the end, Vivian apologized to nobody, and was just forgiven right away. She should've apologized to Seth, Claudia, her mom's boyfriend and her mom. They deserved a sincere apology.
@loveloveaii
3 жыл бұрын
The first scene with Claudia and her mom legit gave me intense flashbacks with my own mom because I speak Mandarin and I could perfectly understand what she was saying- and the part about her mom’s sacrifices just. Made me tear up. And the fact she literally got kicked out- For those of you who don’t, she’s basically going on some sort of rant about “Excuse me? What are you wearing? That’s inappropriate, don’t you want to go to college? You’ll get expelled and never go to college ever again. Is that what you want?” Something like that, maybe even worse, but something about being expelled and college and grades- ALSO THE WHOLE SCENE WHERE THEY ALL STOOD UP AND WALKED OUT AND THEY WERE ALL SO HAPPY AND CONFIDENT. FOR THAT ONE GIRL. AND I’M NOT EVEN A R*PE VICTIM BUT I LEGIT CRIED AT THAT SCENE- AND THEN WHEN THE GIRL SCREAMED I CRIED AGAIN BECAUSE IT WAS SO EMOTIONAL AND IT WASN’T A CUTE LITTLE “aaaaaaaaaa” AT ALL. IT WAS LEGIT A SCREAM FULL OF HATRED AND BFNFHFHFHNFNSFHSJFHNSNFN
@withcindy
3 жыл бұрын
her poor mom predicted this :(
@mcatherine36
3 жыл бұрын
Omg thanks for translating for us! 😃 I couldn't really enjoy the scene where the girls walked out of school and then the victim spoke up because I felt like at that part, the movie was kinda downplaying how serious rape and sexual harassment is. I'm not a victim or anything but I feel like most people who experienced that kind of thing would not want to speak up about it in front of a bunch of people they don't even really know, even if those people are displaying solidarity to them. I mean, in the first place the girl had said she wanted to remain anonymous, and I feel like that's not something she would suddenly want to change. It's a very serious issue and affects the mental health of victims greatly, so I just felt uncomfortable with the portrayal because it didn't seem to be very thoughtful or considerate to the victim or what their feelings might be.
@loveloveaii
3 жыл бұрын
@@mcatherine36 Tbh you’re right, maybe that scene would’ve been better if they all just got up and walked out silently instead of with cheerful music, and the part where she’s giving a speech it could’ve been much more serious. And I’ve never been sexually harassed but I’ve been a victim of abuse, and I feel like if I were in a crowd of people who are all here to support my case and care about me (even if we’re strangers), I’d feel so, so much more confident about speaking up, even if the abuser is right there. But I know some others would be scared, so it really just depends on the person.
@loveloveaii
3 жыл бұрын
@@withcindy OMG WHAT I JUST REALIZED SHE DID NOOOOOOO-
@mcatherine36
3 жыл бұрын
@@loveloveaii Yeah, I think the thing that really bothers me is that afterwards, there is no true resolution for the victim. All we see is that Moxie allowed her to speak up, but nothing seemed to happen in the aftermath to support her? Like the movie doesn't even bother to portray her mental struggles and the main character doesn't seem to do anything else for her either. I just feel icky that they threw in a rape victim to make the mc's organization 'achieve' something, but then after that they just kinda cast aside the issue and never fully addressed it. Tbh I feel like the movie did that with all the issues it portrayed - they took a serious issue, had the mc be involved, but then the mc never does anything else to resolve them or get some form of closure. It's just very unsatisfying and doesn't allow the plot to really have any resolution for the issues presented. And then the mc just continues on with her life like she actually did something. But in reality, she did very little.
@mckenzieehlers5328
3 жыл бұрын
One thing I didn't like about this movie was the scene where the one girl admitted to tripping a guy who ended up breaking his wrist for no reason. He didn't even do anything
@sarasthoughts
3 жыл бұрын
Nobody: Me seeing displays of solidarity: 😭😭😭
@withcindy
3 жыл бұрын
same😭😭😭
@sarroumarbeu6810
3 жыл бұрын
Freaking same ;-;
@RaiiSkaii
3 жыл бұрын
I’m white but from an Immigrant family with very similar values and problems as claudia so it felt quite emotional seeing Claudia trying to be a part of something and helping but being held back
@audreysong9887
3 жыл бұрын
Cindy’s analyses are just the right balance of depressive sarcasm, accurate deep thinking, and picking up on bipoc and lgbtq issues and perspectives. It’s an accurate and thoughtful analysis but it’s funny and relatable. Edit: also, as an asian american girl, I love seeing another asian american woman on this platform discussing these topics (and books) and spilling the tea
@withcindy
3 жыл бұрын
thank you
@anamkouser7271
3 жыл бұрын
As an indian I could relate to the Asian girl on a high level
@withcindy
3 жыл бұрын
hang in there bb
@sarroumarbeu6810
3 жыл бұрын
*sigh* same
@onyx1563
3 жыл бұрын
cindys videos are now just all of us sharing one brain cell... and it’s definitely not cindys
@athereader924
3 жыл бұрын
Ahahhaha YES
@ravioli8959
3 жыл бұрын
NOOO 😭
@skyward7903
3 жыл бұрын
I'm laughing so hard at this HAHAHAHA this is so true
@withcindy
3 жыл бұрын
accurate
@onyx1563
3 жыл бұрын
@@withcindy iTS MY TURN FOR THE BRAINCELL 😡😡
@TheAquamarine4
3 жыл бұрын
I just love how everyone snapped at the deliberately plain jane white main girl. I wish more white girls would be exposed like this, like it might seem mean, but that’s nothing compared to what her friends had to go through
@luchia918
3 жыл бұрын
In the book Vivian was much interesting. Like, it wasn't centered around her. She knew that she didn't have as much problems as her friends, and that's what she believes, in helping her friends. She only comes out as Moxie once Emma tells what happened to her at the party, so she doesn't feel like everyone is judging her
@zahidalaswed7787
3 жыл бұрын
Yeah
@teddythorell5349
3 жыл бұрын
also the whole bathrobe thing, and that Emma was the one leading the thing at the end and the fact that we saw both Seth and Lucies home life
@teddythorell5349
3 жыл бұрын
AND when she and kiera talked about that it was always a skinny white girl who won the list thing? most fuckable?
@withcindy
3 жыл бұрын
hmm i wonder if the movie emphasized more on vivian's flaws to try to make it a teachable moment for white allies?
@ButterflyScarlet
3 жыл бұрын
@@withcindy I think it's more that Vivien was the closest thing the book had to a lead even though she was more like a camera by which we view the world. Movies have to show us what's happening, without words or metaphors, and the easiest way to adapt that from a book is to pick the main POV and stick to them otherwise the audience gets confused.
@haesunoh2563
3 жыл бұрын
HOW WAS THE ASIAN GIRL SPITTING SUCH FACTS GOODBYE ✈️
@withcindy
3 жыл бұрын
i love that for her
@bambeeyejoy
3 жыл бұрын
Some of us in the revolution have social anxiety. So we raise money, fill out forms and bring supplies to protests. Theres different ways to create change.
@ninjaartist1235
3 жыл бұрын
Yeah, change so hard it burned down my fucking neighborhood!!!!!
@hsg57
3 жыл бұрын
As someone who experienced a school walk out. none of that was a thing... in fact they locked us in the school and threatened police.
@ninavtv
3 жыл бұрын
That reminds that we literally had to basically threaten our administration to let us do a walk out. It was for the Parkland Shooting since our school was about 20 minutes away.
@hsg57
3 жыл бұрын
@@ninavtv I went to an arts school and they were taking the art out of our school (I know) and they locked us juniors and seniors in because they had media there for the opening of our new building. What they didnt know was that the sophomores, freshman, and middle schoolers were in on it and they walked tf out.
@purplecatloverrandompizza
3 жыл бұрын
We once did a walkout in middle school The school knew about it and was in on it, so they allowed us to go. The teachers even told us about what it was and what time it was happening and basically said "there will be a walkout at (insert time) so if you choose to you can participate."
@allurajane4979
3 жыл бұрын
@@purplecatloverrandompizza My middle school was the same. They were in on it and let us go. It was a walkout for school shootings. It left me extremely pissed off however because hardly anybody actually gave a shit. They just walked out so that they would miss class.
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