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@TheLkdude
3 жыл бұрын
A great review!,you guys were spot-on, when it came to actual buyer delimma associtate to this product. It is a high priced item with a very limited audience, I would say most people who have dealt with Rotel or similar European brands would consider this in their shortlisting. I believe someone who is shopping for a quality class AB AVR for a 5.1 setup and also willing to stick with it for an extended time period, in spite of tech changes. Also, it is possible to invest on RSP-1576MKII and RMB-1585, which provide better upgradability. If one is only interested in Rotel signature sound, just combining the RMB-1585 with any other AVR/preprocessor will do the trick as well.!
@przemekkulesza2393
3 жыл бұрын
I think sound quality is something I prefer over the features of tomorrow. At the end of the day it is all about sound 😀 A/B class amp and all channels driven per 100w sound enough for most of home configurations. I can also agree about connecting with bronze speakers - exceptional in it's class 🖐️
@J1ss3ncy
3 жыл бұрын
I've considered the previous model, currently on sale, but this big boy does not even have a headphone jack, nor does it support native DSD. At that price range, with multichannel audiophiles in mind, it's a no go for me.
@J1ss3ncy
3 жыл бұрын
@@zachariahadams It doesn't support native DSD, so it's no good for SACDs.
@yaoyaotigeraudio7299
3 жыл бұрын
HI, Andrew, do you have interest to review the Topping EX5 amplifier??????
@andrewrobinsonreviews
3 жыл бұрын
Good afternoon everyone!
@eriknfs
3 жыл бұрын
Enjoy your day too!
@SteveGuttenbergAudiophiliac
3 жыл бұрын
Andrew, congrats on 193K subs! You deserve great success! Steve
@andrewrobinsonreviews
3 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much Steve, I appreciate you stopping by and leaving a note. Best to you as well!
@dougg1075
3 жыл бұрын
Second that
@johnnycrinkle
3 жыл бұрын
Both you guys are providing great information in your uploads that is helping my decision making in choosing my first "proper" audio setup. Thanks to you both 😎👍
@yaoyaotigeraudio7299
3 жыл бұрын
Both of you guys are popular, can we cooperate?? hahaha
@scottdecarlo8667
2 жыл бұрын
Both these guys are my go to when looking for gear.
@J0hnny8ravo
3 жыл бұрын
Rotel is a no-nonsense company that never disappoints.
@scottwallace1
3 жыл бұрын
Besides HDR compatibility. And two second audio dropouts at the beginning of a new track. And needing a serial to USB adapter and knowing what ‘baud’ rate to set for software updates (1983 called, it wants its software update procedure back). But if what you want to listen to and watch is 1080p or lower, once you’re three seconds in, they do sound very good.
@S.E.729
18 күн бұрын
I’ve had this rotel for about a year now and I’m very happy with it. Never experienced any issues at all. It sounds fantastic, does not run hot, then again I have it sitting on top of an entertainment center pretty much like Andrew has. This product replaced a 30 year old denon poa5000 5 channel amplifier with the matching preamp, AVP5000. Plus the fact that i paid about 2 grand since it was a return. Reason for return is the previous person thought it had streaming capabilities. So new it still had the front corners protective tape. It was purchased through an authorized Rotel dealer. Mine doesn’t have the quick power on mode. This is because I’m here in the Netherlands and that feature is omitted to comply with European energy guidelines. I use it with Bowers and Wilkins 804 matrix speakers 3 channel setup. I’ve read it has issues with Dirac, but, since I don’t use Dirac, I don’t have to worry about that. I’m old school.
@Xull042
3 жыл бұрын
No e-ARC ? And what do you do when you use your TV as streamer with Netflix, etc.? You can't even get atmos then because no DD+?
@stephenstevens6573
3 жыл бұрын
I've never had an issue with a receiver/ versus separates, except when it comes to versatility. But. In today's world, with the proliferation of outboard devices(dacs, headphone amps, phono stages, etc) it becomes almost a foregone conclusion. In my system, for example, I have a Yamaha V1700 receiver that has 185 WPC into 8 ohms, its a 5.1 surround processor, its HDMI capable, has a sub out and a pre out, phone stage etc. It worked fine for me, up.until I got my Magnaplan MGlls. It was a 1200.00 receiver new, and gave me all of the connectivity that I could have wanted. I bought(at your recommendation) the Crown XLS drivecore 2 series power amplifier, and am using the Yamaha as a pre-amp and am very pleased with the sound. I am contemplating the purchase of an outboard Dac now. The versatility of any component should be a primary concern when purchasing it. That being said, the 5 grand pricetag of this Rotel would be prohibitive in my mind for my own system, and someone who is looking for simplicity, I would think, would also consider it so also. Thats a hefty pricetag for a receiver. Period. Thank you for your comprehensive review as always. I love the way that you and Christy always break things down. Sincerely, it is illuminating and appreciated
@christofferfrostad2626
3 жыл бұрын
I want to thank the both of you for putting on quality, bingeworthy content on! I digg the mellow tone and the easy explenations! it has helped me very much to settle on what i think is the perfect speakers for me. And that is the Focal 826. I love the range and the fun they bring, now i just need to power them properly without going bankrupt😂🤪 keep it up! Stay safe! I wish you both all the best! PS! I have been with you since the start!
@athealth
2 жыл бұрын
To answer your question, this non-receiver is for someone that has that much money to spend on it, and listens to music more than watches movies. Probably old school and plays multichannel SACD’s and A-DVD’s. I actually have the Rotel RSP 1572 and Rotel RSP 1066 (didn’t get rid of when I replaced it with the 1572. I use a Bryston 4B for front L and R, and a three channel Parasound for C and Surrounds. I don’t use a sub, because I have four-way 2.9 NHT’s, which have 10 inch side firing woofers that go down to 26Hz. I mostly find my self lowering the volume on explosions, because my neighbor says that the dishes in her cabinets rattle when I watch movies… Thanks for sharing the review.
@mjs0686
2 жыл бұрын
My issue with all-in-one processor + amp is that processor technology changes every few years (new sound formats, new HDMI standards, streaming features etc) but amplifier tech hasn't really changed in decades. I just want to buy a good amp and upgrade the processor when I want / need more features. No one seems to make an affordable processor though. Cheapest I know of is Marantz AV7706 or Emotiva XMC which is still $3000. Why doesn't anyone make an affordable processor? (< $1500)
@liquidone2908
3 жыл бұрын
A multi in and pre out is worth a lot more than a HDMI input to me. I'll probably be watching a lot more of this channel because the focus is "largely analog".. my boxes are ticked.
@kennyzraht5804
3 жыл бұрын
When my wife looks over my shoulder and sees I'm watching one of your videos, she goes..not again..what are we buying now? 😂
@octothorpe12
3 жыл бұрын
Somewhat new viewer here… hi! Gotta say, I think there's a huge value in your 'bonus content' with Christie(sp??) which makes your channel different, and more engaging than many other 'white dude audio review' channels. I kiiiinda skip ahead to the end for that dialogue.
@andrewrobinsonreviews
3 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much, CM Harrington! We appreciate you watching.
@KristiWright
3 жыл бұрын
I just came here to say Hello AND if you haven't watched Cruella yet, you are missing out! What a fun movie and a total masterclass in art direction.
@Norweeg
3 жыл бұрын
The soundtrack is banging too. Lots of classic rock!
@KristiWright
3 жыл бұрын
@@Norweeg So good!
@chrischy
3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the recommendation 😀
@mikevalentinas6766
3 жыл бұрын
This unit appeals to me. I have a rotel class A/B power amp in my 2 channel set up and it is killer. I think this unit is aimed and people who are mostly 2 channel music listeners but want some HT capability. As you noted, most HT receivers are computers with a class D amplifier all wrapped in a black box. The Rotel is not that.
@MrZobarx
3 жыл бұрын
Rotel is one of those products that I jump at the chance to buy used - it's got it's function and will do it best for 30+ years. Its a buy & forget it product, a final "thank god I've found it for way less than MSRP holy crap" much like some of the older Marrantz AVR's. You can always add on a streamer or a 4k hdmi expander for cheap, this is a "build out from me" AVR.
@arindamdas936
2 жыл бұрын
I am totally sold on both the ROTEL as well as the speakers. Now I just need find a buyer for my apartment ☺️
@XX-qi5eu
2 жыл бұрын
I own the Rap-1580MK2 with Dirac Live 3 license. I've spent 200 hours learning, measuring and adjusting all things Dirac: House Curves, tight focus, wide measure...every measure video on youtube and I've never got a correction that didn't dampen the overall quality of this brilliantly engineered processor. Amazing frequency response separating the individual instruments. Made my 12-year-old B&W 703 speakers sound like I upgraded them to $8000 speakers. My setup is in a small room and I can crank the volume past Spinal Tap 11 with no distortion. No bass traps and some bass does collect in the corners, but it's not enough to need bass traps. I'd hoped Dirac Live 3 would create greater clarity, and it does cleanup the bass a little, but at the expense of higher frequencies. In my room and setup, Dirac was a waste of time. It cost a fortune, but it was a better move than upgrading my speakers and I don't need to spend money on traps or make other room corrections. The solution to large speakers in a small room (11ft x 16ft with speakers on the short wall only 8 feet from listening position and speakers only 16" from wall)--a processor like the Rap-1580Mk2.
@seanleary3670
3 жыл бұрын
Loved the review. I am not the one that can drop the 💲💰💲💰 for this, but a great buy for someone like you said that's looking for a analog system upgrade. Great job 👍👍🤟🤟👍👍🤘🤘
@exeonx6561
2 жыл бұрын
Any chance you will review the Arcam AVR20 Lineup? A lot of the time you will compare AVR's to the NAD T778, and while a great unit, I feel that in said price category the AVR20 should definitely be a consideration. The T778 is better looking, and has the touchscreen, but the AVR20 adds 5 more channels of processing, up to 4 dedicated separate sub channels, class A/B amp, and dirac live bass management, for 900$ more, which is substantial, but not as much as the Rotel 1580 costing 1900$ more.
@phonatic
3 жыл бұрын
It's really impressive how you keep up with all these many reviews, fantastic! I would really like to rent some of the amps you've reviewed, can't have them all but it would be fun to try 'em all out.
@andrewrobinsonreviews
3 жыл бұрын
Well, we really appreciate you continuing to tune in and for being a member!
@jimgardner5129
3 жыл бұрын
I was thinking the same thing. These two have to come up with a basic script to work from with each review. There's a lot of detail to provide in an organized fashion. Plus I'm guessing they shoot re-takes. Let's hope they don't start storyboarding. :) Then there's the constant swapping of components and reading of manuals.
@phonatic
3 жыл бұрын
@@jimgardner5129 It's like a virtuoso musician who only gives the impression of easy going because he works hard at it. I am still contemplating on how to do a little review for some vintage myself but afters months haven't moved anything further beyond a first script. It is really hard to comprehend how much work Kristi and Andrew are putting into each video.
@nimotech8008
3 жыл бұрын
I must say, compare it to an Arcam avr :). Now that would be VERY interesting. Love the hometheater reviews, keep it up!
@andrewrobinsonreviews
3 жыл бұрын
We tried to get Arcam in for review but so far they haven't had any units available to send us according to their marketing reps.
@nimotech8008
3 жыл бұрын
@@andrewrobinsonreviews could be that they have been very buggy and uses that as an excuse...:/ But recently they have stabilized the firmware and I really am cheering for you to get one to test out :)! Well you are your own boss and I like pretty much all reviews you do..
@user-gz6tx6yp3v
3 жыл бұрын
I mean no eARC is a huge issue. I can go without 2.1 as eARC is a perfect workaround for source to TV and audio return. However I really want that rich sound quality with that deep power you feel and hear. One of my options are the Arcam AVR20/30 which should be competitors to this in terms of sound quality but with more features but no one seems to do a decent review.
@ManosPairis
3 жыл бұрын
That was unexpected! Great review! I have my eyes to the ROTEL 1580 for some time now. It is expensive but that won't stop me. Already started to do some savings to be able to buy it. I was looking for a long time for a unit for atmos with real sound quality simple, no streaming, no radio, just basic simple stuff and sound quality and I was amazed when I actually discovered it. I am that small % of people that love something like this. I agree that is for the people you said.
@theprince08853
3 жыл бұрын
I don't even know why I'm here. I can't even tell the difference between uncompressed audio and compressed audio.
@maxpower78-15
2 жыл бұрын
Agree with the piano black. Just a no no home theater applications. 80lb center channel? Holy cow. Happy sunday and fathers day to everyone out there
@andrewrobinsonreviews
2 жыл бұрын
It's a big one!! Thanks for hanging with us, AT.
@maxpower78-15
2 жыл бұрын
@@andrewrobinsonreviews always!! My home theater was dominating last night. Just all kinds of awesome. The kind of experience that left me not wanting to upgrade for a while
@simianinc
3 жыл бұрын
The non-sexy answer is correct. We seem to judge AV receivers via a cost-benefit analysis that we don’t apply to regular audiophile amps. Sometimes people have the money and are willing to spend it. I’d rather have the NAD though,
@Celtpjs34stone34
3 жыл бұрын
Some people in the comments don't seem to understand that this item is for a different market segment. Items like these are usually installed professionally and usually paired with something like an AV Proedge 4X2 matrix switch to get around the limited hdmi board. Something to think about. I don't sell Rotel anymore but liked the sound quality of this piece and thought your review was great! Keep up the good work Andrew and Kristi!
@aegisofhonor
3 жыл бұрын
Too much competition these days. Look at what Yamaha just came out with at $2200 with it's performance and features at less then half the price. Also, Anthem just came out with an incredible AV receiver with similar quality amplification and way more features for $4000. This Rotel just doesn't seem like a good buy for significant majority of customers looking for a quality AV receiver. It lacks features and is too expensive in that price range for what it offers.
@TheMarjen96
3 жыл бұрын
@andrewrobinson, what are your thoughts on firestick/cubes, chromecasts, and rokus as audio streamers to your stereo or receivers? Would that be a worthwhile video for budget streamers. Thanks as always for the vids.
@paulc7572
3 жыл бұрын
Now that I think about it I'm still using my 49 TX from Pioneer Elite and that makes mince meat out of most products out today but I love the look of the rotel I paid $1200 dollars 5 years after it's release for my pioneer elite still using it to this day and I still love it.
@adamyelle4901
3 жыл бұрын
One thing I find interesting is that audiophiles don't seem to question why a two channel amp costs thousands and thousands of dollars, but when a company comes out with a high end home theater receiver it's questioned as to why it's so expensive because there are cheaper options. The funniest part is that home theater receivers generally pack a lot more technology inside than simple two channel, but the expectation is that you shouldn't overpay in the home theater realm.
@solarfall2728
3 жыл бұрын
The technology isn't relevant to 2 channel music, so it doesn't really apply. I have a very expensive HT system and it doesn't sound anywhere near as good as lesser priced 2 channel systems. For movies its great, for music only its way overpriced. If you have a chance go to one of the high end audio shows, make the trip. Listen to some good 2 channel gear, you'll see what everyone's talking about. It's too hard to put into words. You have to experience it for yourself.
@365DaysOfPureGames
3 жыл бұрын
I really dont understand who this is made for. The price tag is so obscenely high, that it competes with flagship from denon and marantz and more, which im not sure about the marantz, but the denon sounds great. On top of that, even though beautiful, it's functionality seems limiting. Like 7.1 channels is good and all, but like, for 5k, you could buy 20 yamaha 7.1 tsr receivers.
@llee4225
3 жыл бұрын
Great to hear a HT receiver review. I have been looking for one that would be good for music. I have many records and concerts remastered in 5.1 and love to hear it in the best without a bank of expensive equipment!
@jrgq
3 жыл бұрын
I have the pre-processor Rotel RSP-1582, which looks almost the same as the 1580MKII, well done product design!
@andrewrobinsonreviews
3 жыл бұрын
What amp did you pair with it? Thanks for watching!
@shaunrichards744
3 жыл бұрын
Getting one after I win the lotto this Saturday in Australia.
@jjguillen65
3 жыл бұрын
That's going to be a NO for me big dawg. That price is ridonculous with a capital R. Beautiful design and finish.
@MrViper7121
3 жыл бұрын
I wonder how this receiver compares to the Denon AVR x8500h
@terryschuffert6781
3 жыл бұрын
I love my RA-1572 Integrated Amplifier, the sound quality is excellent and 1/3 the price of an equal McIntosh. With that being said to your question of the day, it's hard to say who this would be for. Maybe people who like the sound of Rotel in general? or anyone that this just fits their needs without all the bells and whistles?. Personally for me I don't even have a home theater setup right now and when I do set another one back up in the future I would probably consider something like this thats basically plug and play.
@larsv6144
Жыл бұрын
Got this Rotel a year ago at a nice (40%) discount, and like it a lot in currently a 5.1 setup (Wharfedale Elysian 2 fronts, Elysian Center, EVO4S rear speakers, REL S/510 sub). Using my fronts for stereo as well (Musical Fidelity Nu Vista 600 amp, Holo Audio Spring 3 KTE dac), so I was looking for a musical and powerful AV "receiver", to get the most out of my speakers for home cinema as well. And this 1580MKII delivers.
@mikejames-drummerreginacan1386
3 жыл бұрын
I use a YAMAHA entry level 5.1 receiver that cost me $279 CANADIAN DOLLARS. It is very good. Amazing Yamaha can make an AV receiver at this price that's this good. The ROTEL you reviewed is around $6400 CANADIAN DOLLARS. There is no way it is worth over 20 X as much. A very limited few will buy this piece but maybe that's Rotel's plan ....sell less to rich people who only buy expensive things to impress family and friends with Rotel making a huge gross margin on each sale. There is an old audio retailer saying .."if you sell to the CLASSES, you'll eat with the MASSES"......PS: I LOVE your reviews, keep up the good work.
@kristophergurley585
3 жыл бұрын
The ideal customer I see for this is the more well-to-do audiophile who succumbs to pressure from his family to integrate home theater into his hifi(hey, you got chocolate in my peanut butter!). Here you have a convenient, good sounding, component with none of the fru-fru that other, tech-obsessed receivers or processors come with. Fairly easy to set up and integrate into an existing system or base a new on off of. So I see this more of an old man’s(or woman’s)surround amp than any of the new guard.
@Zoranurai13
3 жыл бұрын
I can only dream of products like these. But god does rotel entice me🥵
@KristiWright
3 жыл бұрын
It's so pretty!
@Kamikaze1987666
3 жыл бұрын
Why? It has no HDMI 2.1! No HDCP 2.3! Only a 5.1.2 Surround setup! It has also no virtual formats like Virtual X or Auro 3D and is a 1000 bugs more expensive as the danon 8500 H/A. I hope its good for Musik
@aleceriksson1108
2 жыл бұрын
I just bought a used but mint Rotel RAP 1580 but haven’t settled on a 5.1 setup. Based on your reviews would you go: KEF Q350/250/150, Monitor Bronze, or B&W 606 series??? SVS Micro sub. Small room 14x10, watching lots of movies, listening to jazz, hip hop, copious Radiohead. Cheers and thanks for a really brilliant channel!!
@thegeniusfool
3 жыл бұрын
Biggest drawback? No eARC
@greatpix
3 жыл бұрын
At $5,000 that Rotel could be considered really expensive, until I realized that in the 70's I thought nothing of spending $1500 on an Apple ][ Plus computer, that couldn't print anything, had no lower case on the keyboard, no floppy or hard drive and could only show 8 colors at a time. Adjusted for inflation that would be over $6,000 today.
@victorsalazar1134
3 жыл бұрын
This one tickled my curiosity! I could give it a try at a lower price. The brand is great!
@JohnTwo1
3 жыл бұрын
What in the flying fuck, it costs 5 grand but doesn't have a single hdmi 2.1 input or output.
@rafacq
3 жыл бұрын
Great review! At $5K, I’ll keep my Yamaha RX-A2A with my Klipsch RP-8000F. I still hate listening to your conversation with Kristi without seeing her on screen!
@andrewrobinsonreviews
3 жыл бұрын
I still appreciate you watching, though I will continue to respect Kristi's wishes to remain off camera.
@rafacq
3 жыл бұрын
@@andrewrobinsonreviews I also respect her decision, but urge her to consider joining you on screen. Her presence will bring the conversation to life.
@KristiWright
3 жыл бұрын
Thank you all for respecting my decision to not appear on camera by continuing to ask for me to appear on camera.
@DamionG1987
3 жыл бұрын
Every single NAD product I've purchased in the last three years is super glitchy. Too many updates that get stuck. They will stop playback and freeze randomly. There are plenty of reasons to look away from NAD right now. Just my .02
@the_karl
3 жыл бұрын
I've been eyeing the nad778 but your experience sounds relatively common. It's also seems like it's really hard to justify the cost of the 778 over a Denon 4700, unless you know of something I'm missing?
@endeego9814
3 жыл бұрын
I've had the t778 for several months. I have not experienced a single glitch and I use it every single day.
@RafaelMaia
3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for another great review! It boggles my mind that companies are still not making receivers with hdmi 2.1. I get that 8k is still not widespread but we’re already living in a time where current gen gaming consoles outputting at 4K 120fps is the norm… let alone in 2-5 years. I’m still having to earc my videogame through the tv to my t778 while I cross my fingers hoping for an hdmi module that isn’t outdated :(
@andrewrobinsonreviews
3 жыл бұрын
Hopefully NAD will release a new module that will give you 8K and 4K/120 without having to buy a new receiver. Thanks for watching!
@daraghmorrissey
3 жыл бұрын
Great point, you’d expect some level of future proofing at this price point
@markkinsman5013
3 жыл бұрын
Nice looking piece, although I wish the screen was better and smaller. More importantly to me however, is the fact that I have no interest in anything beyond 5.1 or 5.2. I wish manufacturers would focus on 5.x with great sound quality, HDMI inputs/outputs and 4k. The current trend of more and more channels seems to fill a need nobody I know wants or needs. Also it needs to reasonably priced,1500-2500 tops. Worth less channels etc it should be doable.
@akka143
3 жыл бұрын
How would you compare it to the Arcam AVR30?
@jstoli996c4s
3 жыл бұрын
I have a 15 year old Arcam AVR300, which is a real 7 x 100wpc and sounds great - very powerful bass and some warmth on the top end. The AVR30’s Class G amplification should sound even better. I haven’t heard any Rotel products for comparison.
@jstoli996c4s
3 жыл бұрын
@@akka143 I think you’re just fine with your current Arcam. Unless you want to go to high end 2 channel, then Rotel’s Michi brand is pretty damn awesome except for Bluetooth only wireless connection (no Airplay or Chromecast currently).
@tapemaster8252
3 жыл бұрын
I’m shocked you don’t have a SACD/DVD audio player to test surround for music being that you review mostly 2 channel, but the time we live in now, I get it
@Audiomainia2310
3 жыл бұрын
An absolutely gorgeous system that financially makes one want to commit a felony to own one!!🤣🤣
@TheWildpanda86
3 жыл бұрын
I’ve got the Rotel RSX-1550 powering my B&W center and surrounds with their RB-1582 200x2 amp for my man B&W tower speakers for the past 12 years. With dual Hsu Research subs. The watts per channel on these are 100 watts with all channels driven all the time unlike other receivers that will peak 2 channels at their spec’d watts. I never get tired of the sound this makes. I think this 5.1 setup sounds just as good and dimensional as any Atmos setup. But if/ when I do upgrade I’ll probably get this new Rotel receiver. But wow at $5k got to decide… this receiver? Or Eames lounge chair? Lol
@jasonc331
3 жыл бұрын
We need you to get an Anthem MRX740 in for review at $2699.00. I'm with you they are charging that price because they have stock. No EARC smh.
@andrewrobinsonreviews
3 жыл бұрын
jasonc331 Would love to and have requested it but so far one has not been made available to us for review.
@Monsux
3 жыл бұрын
At $5k this is a really hard sell even if it's really good sound-wise and looks great. Those that are willing to spend that much... Need HDMI 2.1 and more than 7 channels for Atmos/DTS X.
@jacksongillet369
3 жыл бұрын
Omg I’m looking forward to the 200k sub giveaway. Congrats 🎉
@andrewrobinsonreviews
3 жыл бұрын
Be sure to subscribe and make your subs public so that you are eligible!
@jacksongillet369
3 жыл бұрын
@@andrewrobinsonreviews Damn I didn’t even know that was a thing, and I’ve never heard any KZitemr talk or warn us about it. Also I’ve been a subscriber since your Cambridge Audio CXN V2 video and was my gateway into hi-fi. Thanks for everything
@VintageVic93
3 жыл бұрын
While multichannel isn’t my thing anymore, I do appreciate this beast! It’s a very attractive “receiver”.
@VintageVic93
3 жыл бұрын
@Dixie Pepper Different strokes for different folks, I guess.
@portogonzales7027
2 жыл бұрын
Great review! 👍 I own the Yamaha rx-v6a but I'm missing clarity in the mids and especially in the high tones when listening in stereo. Also missing punch in the bass. So, how are these in the Rotel?
@stephencosta6814
3 жыл бұрын
👍❤️🔥I just love your reviews I look forward to them all the time I also brought many components thanks to you and the Mrs. LOL👍👌
@gavriushka
3 жыл бұрын
I will never hit that like button like it’s my job. Cause my job currently sucks, and this channel is exact opposite of that - IT F**** ROCKS!!!
@KristiWright
3 жыл бұрын
😅
@TheTuckmon
3 жыл бұрын
I agree $5000 is too much . But it could be acceptable to one looking for such a unit with great sound if they lowered the price.
@larryh9525
3 жыл бұрын
Hi Andrew, in the comparison section the Yamaha AVENTAGE RX-A3080 wasn't mentioned. From a power amp perspective, it didn't sound like the Yamaha would be in the same class. However, with its features and functionality, it does things the Rotel lacks; e.g. full room correction, streaming music. Having owned an RX-V2600 for many years, I can't imagine how much better the Rotel would have to sound in order to get me to pay over double plus as compared to a 3080. As always, thanks.
@geohof
3 жыл бұрын
I think the 1580 mkii is for the customer who is accustomed to high end audio components , that is either downsizing or simplifying the user ability of their system. It’s like the Boxter of the Porsches.....
@KristiWright
3 жыл бұрын
This sounds about right to me.
@keithdavis9476
3 жыл бұрын
Another great review! Any plans to review any of their Michi gear? I'd love to see your review of the Michi X3 integrated!
@willburren1957
3 жыл бұрын
I'm just happy to see something other than a Denon. I just don't get their appeal anymore.
@robneverdon
3 жыл бұрын
Good afternoon Mr. and Mrs. I think that this component is of the Audiophile/ Home-Theater ilk, BUT only in terms of a limited space. If I can clarify and by that I mean it offers just enough ports and scalability for a medium to semi-large room. It only offers two balanced connections and for me, just like you said it really could not be the true hub to a serious home theater. I think that it falls in the category of those Integra products such as the DRX 5.3 with the differences would be pricing, and it is 9.2
@jaakanshorter
3 жыл бұрын
I started laughing when you said an all Magnepan HT system while I'm watching this video on my all Magnepan HT system. When I hear people say is it good for music and Rotel in the same sentence ... My answer has been well duh for the last 20 plus years.
@djb-w9q
Жыл бұрын
I have the Rotel 1576 MKII preamp/processor which I assume is essentially 1/2 of the 1580 MKII. I purchased it to replace my Proceed AVP 2, a high end pre/pro in its day with Mark Levinson digital components. The Rotel is the equal of the Proceed in musical sound quality. It's a joy to listen to music in 2 channel stereo up to 5.1.2 in Dolby Atmos or 7 channel stereo. Using my Marantz UD7007 I can play almost every high definition audio format. I have a collection of DVD Audio and SACD disks along with many audiophile CDs. I couldn't be happier than I am now with the Rotel for music. I whole heartedly recommend it for the multi-channel audiophile. Movie soundtracks also sound excellent but must admit that I am sometimes confused as to what I am actually getting. Is it uncompressed or not. The Rotel doesn't help much in this department as the information it provides is very limited. It doesn't have eARC so what is coming through the ARC channel? My Sony smart TV has a setting for Dolby Digital Plus which is supposed to pass Atmos compressed if I understand correctly. The Rotel gives no indication of a DD Plus soundtrack; it merely indicated 5.1, 48 kHz which I assume is simply DD. Is Atmos matrixed onto the 5.1 soundtrack? I watched the Tom Hanks movie Greyhound from Apple + the other day and it sounded fantastic giving my 5.1.2 system a real workout. But what was I listening to is the question. If you can help please respond. I know that a simple solution is to get an Apple TV and feed it directly to the Rotel to get full Atmos, but I would rather not add another thing to my system at the moment. I enjoy the functionality of the Sony smart TV. I have also found that it is functionally preferable to feed the HDMI inputs directly to the TV rather than the Rotel. The system performs much better without the HDMI glitches that occur when feed into the Rotel.
@christianbujard5496
3 жыл бұрын
Well growing up in Germany 1st graders discuss if a BMW is better than a Mercedes and they are probably both great cars, but you can just appreciate one of them. For me the Rotel is the piece where I rest my eyes on when I listen to music and I relax, no matter how hard the day was. I had three different ones by now, but this is what I enjoy. Other gear might be great too or less pricy, but that is my luxury that I feel to owe myself - even without eARC. We are not in this because we want to spend the money wisely. At least I am not. ;)
@osirismarbles5177
3 жыл бұрын
I would venture to say that Rotel has a better understanding of how to attain their desired profit margin on this product. I doubt the retail cost is arbitrarily high. Recall the MKIIs are implementing design and components from their MICHI line. That's expensive (and super high quality) stuff! They may be planning for price to roll off (haha) down the line, but I'm doubting it's priced that way "just because."
@vincetran8699
2 жыл бұрын
Hey Andrew, thanks for doing this great review, lots of useful info. I was looking at my local electronic store/website, looks like they discontinue this model?!?! Do you know if Rotel is coming out with a newer model?
@j.j.h.atemycereal
3 жыл бұрын
Yes it’s quite expensive. But it’s also REALLY good looking and if it sounds and works as as good as it looks, I could possibly pull the trigger on one.
@AudioElectronicsChicago
3 жыл бұрын
what a beautiful receiver
@jdekong3945
3 жыл бұрын
handsome unit
@derekquame8558
2 жыл бұрын
Hey Andrew, nice video and review but you didn’t say anything about the “center back channel” though it’s special to this receiver because many other receivers don’t have this feature. So please can you say something about how it sounds or works? Thanks
@chrischy
3 жыл бұрын
Thats a hell of gear, wow! Thanks Andrew and Kristi =)
@andrewrobinsonreviews
3 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much, Chrischy Schindler! We appreciate you watching.
@garycopeland8429
10 ай бұрын
I love the bench/component stand you have for the Rotel what brand is that? 😊
@yuckysamson
3 жыл бұрын
The only major drawbacks I saw based on the review were the lacking e-arc and the lack of full 9.2.4 outputs. It's fine if you have to add more amp channels but if it caps out at less than full format it limits the implementation into a serious theater room, and it shouldn't, especially when the base unit is as good as you say.
@cletusmcfetus9137
3 жыл бұрын
The remote is hideous. It's like reading a classic novel with comic sans font.
@jtharrison5904
3 жыл бұрын
Great review - Agree the price needs to drop a bit!
@TheOpenation
2 жыл бұрын
That was awesome Mr Robinson very detail.
@mikereynolds5470
3 жыл бұрын
5k and it won't do 7.1.4 by itself? I am with you on a 1k price drop to make it more attractive. It's like they are banking on their name...
@TechWiz1983
3 жыл бұрын
That and no earc. No thanks.
@ashurgeorge4604
3 жыл бұрын
4k 120 full RGB is the new standard, I can't see splurging on a luxury product when the standard will catch up in a year or 2 across the industry.
@dimitrisx7554
3 жыл бұрын
As I was reading the comments, some of them made me feel the need to point that this was a GREAT review, very informative and from an everyday point of view. Thank you both for your time and effort.
@andrewrobinsonreviews
3 жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it!
@hitechburg
2 жыл бұрын
No HDMI 2.1, No HDCP 2.3, No e/ARC and No AM'FM tuner NO THANK YOU.
@RobG001
2 жыл бұрын
and only 7 channels? and will only support 4 overhead channels with external amps, so no option of front hights or side widths or rear hights, too many other choices esp for the amount being asked for this product. Unless 7 channels are all you need.
@hitechburg
2 жыл бұрын
@@RobG001 I bought the DENON AVR-X6700H
@barryaxani6955
3 жыл бұрын
I had a choice between the NAD T778 and the Rotel 1580 MK II and eventually decided on the NAD. I haven’t heard either one yet and the NAD had been on order for 2 months but is in July 10…I hope! I am running B&W 804D for my l/r a B&W 800 series 2 way center channel and 6 B&W m1 for the surrounds for Atmos I think perhaps who would buy the Rotel would be someone who enjoys music but doesn’t want a bunch of set up and who is middle to upper middle class perhaps because of the cost.
@slyfoxx8540
3 жыл бұрын
Let us know the results
@TylerStout
3 жыл бұрын
For me I'd rather have separates as my train of though is what's one more box lol. Honestly I think it will be interesting when the new Onkyo/Pioneer units come out as those will also have Dirac but for significantly less and assuming you didn't use the internal amps in either the Rotel or the Onkyo (which will be undoubtedly worse) would the average person be able to tell the difference? Hoping you check those out when they come out. Personally I think the only reason to get this would be if you can get it for a discount from the dealer as it's got to have a decent amount of markup.
@netnakul
3 жыл бұрын
Really? No eArc? That's crazy
@tecnoprofet
2 жыл бұрын
Hello, I go directly to the question, what is your opinion about Arcam AV 40 is this processor worth it or is there any other option closer to what I could consider as more "advanced". Thank you so much .
@Harry-Giles
3 жыл бұрын
Even when I am not in the market for a particular item I will listen to your review because it is so fun to hear it. Love the channel guys.
@mdaniknightrider
3 жыл бұрын
I loved this detailed review of a not-every-day-product from both of you. Thanks 😊 Are you working on the Focal Sopra review, or is it not gonna be released?
@andrewrobinsonreviews
3 жыл бұрын
So glad you enjoyed it. The Focal review is still coming. Just trying to find the right slot in our schedule.
@TruckeeDoggo
Жыл бұрын
Beware, the RAP1580MK2 was apparently discontinued in November 2022 with no announced replacement. As an owner of one of these, I can tell you the Rotel support is lacking as of late, no doubt since they’re leaving the AV receiver space
@larsv6144
Жыл бұрын
I have the same problem, have to send in my RAP 1580MK2 for the second time, due to problems with ethernet connection and firmware updates. Sound wise it is a great AV, plus Dirac is a must nowadays.
@venish10
3 жыл бұрын
Great review, detailed and honest as usual. Are we going to see a MICHI review in the future?
@andrewrobinsonreviews
3 жыл бұрын
We currently do not have a MICHI review on the schedule but things can and do change, so stay tuned. Thanks for watching!
@MichaelMartin-fl8gq
3 жыл бұрын
It's expensive, but with multi-channel analog (RCA) inputs for the SACD/DVD-A crowd, Atmos capability, Dirac live (upgradeable) and separates-quality sound, it's seems to hit every need for an audiophile who loves movies too.
@sakadabara
3 жыл бұрын
for the same money one can get separates
@davidwald2938
3 жыл бұрын
I bought an old Denon 4806 for $450 on Ebay about 5yrs ago for its analog inputs and hdmi inputs/ouput and absolutely love this beast! Playing multichannel DSD via denon link with ability to do bass mgmt in the digital domain sounds amazing. Then I picked up an old Pioneer BDP-09fd and play surround blueray through its Wolfson dacs in dual mode connect to my Denons external inputs. I agree about analog and am in to 5.1 music and it seems like older AVs and BD players allow you to do that better than most newer stuff (BD players today expect the use of hdmi and dont come with hi end dacs or multichannel outputs) Also. Denon is 140 watts per channel 7.1. Is there any advantage at all for the audiophile to spend 5k on a new AV? Older receivers still do the usual THX etc theatre stuff. Just curious because I'm certainly no expert but love my vintage late 2ks components made back when sacd, dvd audio and blueray surround music was still a thing. Rotel obviously new and better than an old Denon but still I have about 4 different dacs to choose from besides my Denon's burr browns. Does Rotel do anything different hi-res audio wise from a much older high end AV. Slightly better bass mgmt Dirac > Audessey and if you want Atmos music is all I can see.
@sammy10001
3 жыл бұрын
Im holding out of the Onkyo TX-RZ50 for its HDMI 2.1 passthrough capabilities., and thats 1200$ compares to this rotel...
@Roflcopter1988
5 ай бұрын
I also got the RZ50 first, but was very disappointed in the sound quality. I have an arcam stereo amp to which I compared it to and the Onkyo came nowhere near the sound quality of the arcam. I listen to a lot of music in stereo, so that was important to me. Here the Onkyo felt like mono audio, very small stage. So I sent it back and got the rotel RAP1580MKII instead. The sound is really great and I can ditch on the missing features like eARC or 3d audio (not a fan of it, I prefer stereo), but the rotel has some software bugs which made the decision to keep it not easy 😅 the sound quality and the multi input feature made me keep it
@roccobruno8027
3 жыл бұрын
I hope as a comparison you're able to audition one of the new Anthem MRX AV receivers.
@GRAAmusic
3 жыл бұрын
Best 3.1 amp?
@kenhickey4730
3 жыл бұрын
Andrew quick question for you, in your review you said the Rotel is one of the best that you have to just turn on a source and have automatically turn everything online to make it so easy to use. I have a 9.2 Denon that worked that way for 2years but now you turn on att tv or Apple TV and it just sits there no picture or sound. I guess I need something simple that will always work. Is the Rotel the only one that meets the aoutmagic needs?
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