There's also a scene in the book where Patrick comes across a homeless man who he blinded. The man holds a sign saying he was blinded in Vietnam. Patrick gets close and calls him a liar or says that's not how it happend. The homeless man instantly recognizes the voice and begins to freak out.
@aprildragas2807
2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, I felt so bad for that guy
@EchelonPandora
2 жыл бұрын
:(
@glitchedporygon5426
2 жыл бұрын
And pisses himself
@andersonrayregalia8378
2 жыл бұрын
Haha holy shit thats hilarious
@tinxaomxi3462
2 жыл бұрын
@@andersonrayregalia8378 u will never be him
@UltimateKyuubiFox
3 жыл бұрын
I’m actually glad Gloria Steinem talked DiCaprio out of the role. He would’ve had the same effect Brad Pitt had on Fight Club. He’s the kind of leading man who convinces audiences to be on his side. Christian Bale is a charismatic actor, but he’s also a person you can be objective about. He lets the movie speak for itself, rather than speaking for the movie, in a sense. The only role DiCaprio really disappeared into was Candy in Django Unchained, and I don’t think he was at that acting stage yet when American Psycho was being made.
@infinitynight1
3 жыл бұрын
Dicaprio didn't look mature enough at that time and had a baby face. Bale was only 27 and looked a lot mature than 27 and fit the role perfect. What i love about Bale's performance is the subtle moments and i don't think DiCaprio could have pulled of a performance like this.
@clarapilier
3 жыл бұрын
She did it because she wanted her stepson to get the role. She is the coolest of the stepmoms.
@DanTarrant1
3 жыл бұрын
Bale as Bateman has become such an iconic role it's simply hard to imagine anybody else having played it. Thinking about Leo as Bateman is kind of like trying to imagine Chistian Bale as Jack Dawson in Titanic. It just wouldn't have been the same film at all.
@JohnMoseley
3 жыл бұрын
I'd like to have seen it done with a much more anonymously conventionally good looking male star, a model or a soap actor who couldn't really act. I want Batemen to be a lot more flat and bland than Bale seems able to be.
@Ares_gaming_117
3 жыл бұрын
plus we would never have the Bateman ---> Batman pun about Christian Bale
@JG_1998
3 жыл бұрын
my favorite part of the book is where patrick microwaves and eats a jellyfish, and also eats sand. hes 100x crazier in the novel, not just in terms of violence.
@proselytefever
2 жыл бұрын
o7 gloyper
@starwberrybubbletea6984
2 жыл бұрын
😮😊😅😊x😅😊x😊😢😊😮😊🎉😊x
@whiterain2546
2 жыл бұрын
He be runnin around the streets just screeching
@Th3Downz
2 жыл бұрын
God damn it, I just commented something similar 11 months later apparently. He's so absolutely deranged by the end of the book it's equally horrifying and hilarious. Him talking to the bench is something else
@happystarz1
2 жыл бұрын
no bc i read that part on a plane and just closed the book and stared out the window for the remaining 5 hours of the flight
@rigster35
3 жыл бұрын
I don’t think ‘boring’ is the best way to describe the book. It is moreso EXHAUSTING and diminishes any potential idolization of the yuppie/psychopath archetype. As other comments have stated, he is completely obsessed with objects and material goods (as well as himself as an object) to such an extent that it is a curse. The droning text by Ellis is the best medium to portray this aspect of his tortured character. It’s immense detail is also extremely illustrative - as pointed out in the video - that it is difficult to read, not in a boring sense but that it is difficult to escape Bateman’s reality (real or imagined, it does not matter). Nonetheless I love the movie and Bale’s delivery of his script is just brilliant.
@anonb4632
3 жыл бұрын
I didn't find it boring. In fact, the bits where he goes on about skincare or corporate pop are hilarious.
@mankytoes
3 жыл бұрын
I thought it was horribly boring. I rarely fail to finish a book, but I gave up on this one. One of the only books I found more tedious was Less Than Zero, which I also didn't finish. The love for Easton Ellis confuses the hell out of me- sometimes you just have to accept you don't "get" an author, or their style doesn't click with you.
@anonb4632
3 жыл бұрын
@@mankytoes If he doesn't work for you, fair enough. I've never understood the big deal over Virginia Woolf. I did enjoy the book, I thought it was very dark humour. I'm not one of these folk who just follows fashions. But if someone else didn't enjoy it, that's okay too.
@juliewestevents1567
3 жыл бұрын
@@anonb4632 agreed. I prefer the book. I find his inner monologue hilarious and the movie misses these moments. Like the Tom cruise elevator nose bleed.
@fuckingkimura
3 жыл бұрын
Absolutely. You are not meant to be drawn in or understand or appreciate Bateman's fascination with food or fashion. They are meant to show his obsessive neurotic ways of thinking. I.e. while you are thinking about what you need to do about work, he's thinking about all the expensive clothes his buddies are wearing and how they all look shit compared to him
@DrunkenCoward1
3 жыл бұрын
Impressive. Very nice. Let's see Paul Allen's analysis of the differences between the mediums.
@gateauxq4604
3 жыл бұрын
I heard that Julia had dinner with him in Rome.
@nl3064
3 жыл бұрын
For one thing, his name is Paul Owen in the novel.
@Mmm-ww2jg
Жыл бұрын
You clearly never read the book
@jakethunderbird8735
Ай бұрын
@@Mmm-ww2jgthat is the quickest way to identify if someone has read the book
@josefk7437
3 жыл бұрын
The ATM tells Bateman "Feed me a Stray Cat." In the book, a park bench gains sentience and follows him home, making us doubt the reliability of his mind. The way Bateman kills people is so comically ridiculous in both the movie and the book that we can doubt he actually does them. The food the characters eat in the restaurants is also ridiculous stuff that would be inedible if actually served, but the characters are so drugged up that it doesn't matter. There is another youtube video where an expert on business card fonts and production explains what is wrong with the business card scene, with explanations on what debossing is, how raised lettering works, and that Paul Allen's card does not really have a watermark. To me, all those are clues in the book that Patrick Bateman might be too unreliable of a narrator to really be a murderer.
@ahealthkit2745
2 жыл бұрын
My first watch was far more objective, but rewatching the movie again recently, I took the film a lot more lightly and viewed the comical violence as a sort of criticism of the dark nature of hollywood psychopath archetypes, and how when an archetypal psychopath gets what they want, it really just deteriorates their sense of what's real completely, and their obsession becomes a spectacle for the audience. I even viewed the introduction scene as a sort of metaphor for how an actor readies themselves for a role. Bateman repeatedly admitting that he feels more-or-less like a void, it feels like an affirmation that he is portraying an archetype, not a single character. In all honesty, definitely not the angle I think the director intended, but it's the feeling I got watching it.
@mackychloe
2 жыл бұрын
The "Watermark" line is one of my fav's from the movie but oddly does not even get spoken in the novel..... unless there's two credit cards scenes??
@plutoh9958
2 жыл бұрын
My thoughts during the restaurant scenes were usually wondering how he could possibly get enough calories with all the exercising he's doing and how funny 'being healthy' was then as opposed to now. Regarding the business cards, was the KZitem video about the book card scene or the movie card scene? Because from my memory they were very different. I might be wrong but i remember thinking the movie version was especially bizarre and funny since all the cards are exactly the same whereas in the book they are all clearly different. Btw, I suppose you can disregard if something just went over my head😅
@sbevexlr848
2 жыл бұрын
How is it not edible lol, I don't know much about professional cooking So I need to understand what you mean
@championzeme3141
2 жыл бұрын
@David Sarmiento yeah i respectfully disagree with the idea that it was all or most of a dream/illusion 😴🚫, sure definitely more than 200% sure of some illusions (like the car exploding at the police exchange in the movie 🚓💥🔫), but bateman is insane in both versions with a little sympathy in the movie 🎥🍿, I haven’t read the novel yet it seems pretty Erie and depressing though, Wish the movie was longer even though American Psycho still is a one of a kind ☝️💝💯
@michellejesica
3 жыл бұрын
ngl, when I put on all my eye cream/moisturizer/expensive face stuff in the morning I deff hear Bateman's monologue in my head all too often.
@twiceshy9773
3 жыл бұрын
😂😂😂when my hubby gets all weird about putting on moisturizer/skincare I remember this and comfort myself by thinking ''well that probably means he's not a serial killer then"
@twiceshy9773
3 жыл бұрын
But he does appreciate a nice business card too lol lol hmmm....
@brianoneill9842
3 жыл бұрын
For me one of the reasons the book so so effective, is the way the most graphic and horrific violence is described in the the same way as every other part of his material life. There is no "humanity" in Bateman, there is only a observer to our world. soulless and driven only by objects. It really effected my for days after, and is terrifying
@pw3229
3 жыл бұрын
Yeah he is definitely sociopathic, and perhaps symbolic of how culture sometimes instills sociopathic behavior in individuals.
@zabm141
3 жыл бұрын
this is sooo retalable. i read this book at the age of 15 while having a spleen for serial killer novels. i had just digged through all the hannibal lecter books, talented mr. ripley and such and thought I had a thick skin, but after AP I felt a void lingering above me. at the time I didnt even understand why the book was ao effective at disgusting me.
@dylandarcy1150
3 жыл бұрын
But the thing is, there was soul in Bateman at one time. Throughout the book we're shown how crushingly boring his Wall Street life is- the endless new restaurants, the pointless conversations, the rush to always have something new. And it's all reported in this monotone, cold voice that would make you assume he was heartless. Except towards the end, after he goes on holiday with Evelyn, we start to realise just how crushing this lifestyle really is. The man is so fucking dissociated hes eating sand for god sake. And then with Jean, who seems to be the only person that actually cares about him, the only way he can connect to her is through objects (which is why he sends her all that bullshit on Valentine's). The violence isn't because hes evil, it's the only way he can connect to the world as he slowly loses his mind. But towards the end, as he gets more and more violent, it starts to lose any effect on him. Hes given up his ability to feel anything in favour of the rush for the new. Bateman isn't an evil cruel bastard, hes the victim of an evil cruel system.
@DanTarrant1
3 жыл бұрын
@@dylandarcy1150 Great analysis as I have also wondered if AP is ultimately a story about boredom as well. But I have a slightly different take: Patrick is bored silly because he "has it all" and for the most part had it handed to him: he was born rich, he's handsome, he has a plush apartment in the high-rent district, he's got a prestigious Wall Street job that doesn't appear to require him to do much work, he eats at trendy restaurants, wears designer clothes, he has a beautiful girlfriend and doesn't have much problem scoring with other women, etc. It's the curse of having everything you want without the satisfaction of having earned any of it or had to overcome any challenges along the way. Failure to get into Dorsia is literally what counts as adversity for Bateman...so eventually the fantasizes about and then commits increasingly gory murders. Because it's the only thing that he can do that doesn't bore him.
@dylandarcy1150
3 жыл бұрын
@@DanTarrant1 Yeah! Especially considering we never see him doing work at all in the book, and it's either implied or just outright said (cant remember specifically) that his dad owns the company he works at. I fully agree that one of the main reasons he finds his life so crushingly boring is bc hes quite literally doing nothing. And the fact that he gets so proud over his job where he does nothing is one of the most hateable things about him imo.
@lyssaraine
3 жыл бұрын
the “rat” and most of the “girl” chapters had me completely sick at my stomach after reading them. like couldn’t finish a paragraph without taking a break. the movie is just funny to me
@siam7094
2 жыл бұрын
im quite desensitised to gore and violence but reading the "girls" chapter with Tiffany and Torri, thats definetely the scene that made me go "what the fuck did i just read?" especially after what he did to Tiffany.
@garvinator4861
2 жыл бұрын
I want people to read your comment and go “what rat?” then look it up and cry.
@miguelpadeiro762
2 жыл бұрын
@@garvinator4861 Thanks for stopping me from looking it up
@SHITFUCK1999
2 жыл бұрын
what rat and girl
@MaMastoast
2 жыл бұрын
Yea.. it's pretty dark
@sifatshams1113
3 жыл бұрын
Even though it's not really a horror film and more of a dark comedy, the scene with the real estate agent is one of the most subtly eerie scenes I've ever seen in a movie.
@augierivera3290
3 жыл бұрын
FYI Gloria Steinem is Christian Bale’s Stepmom.
@maneet2939
3 жыл бұрын
Was
@gateauxq4604
3 жыл бұрын
LMAO TIL
@mildsoup8978
3 жыл бұрын
She did it so he could get the part lol
@ENigma-um8zw
3 жыл бұрын
Gloria Estefan is Christian Slater’s friend
@JRibs
3 жыл бұрын
FYI I’m your father
@pivotresearchfoundation
3 жыл бұрын
Thug Notes already caught me up on the differences.
@diegonei
3 жыл бұрын
I miss Thug Notes.
@Hotshot2k4
3 жыл бұрын
If you take a minute to think about it, you can probably work out why it ended and why it won't come back.
@satriaeerlangga
3 жыл бұрын
@@Hotshot2k4 why?
@matthi9384
3 жыл бұрын
@@satriaeerlangga I think it's about the stereotype of a black gang member.
@sirflimflam
3 жыл бұрын
@@matthi9384 Most of the interesting series are gone now, like earthling cinema. I think it's just more about the shift in the channel direction more than worrying about stereotyping.
@Habubachu
Жыл бұрын
I love the part where he mistakes a college student as a homeless person in the book and puts a dollar bill into her full cup of coffee and then just runs away while panicking 😂
@CERTAIND00M
3 жыл бұрын
I still like to leave places in a hurry while ominously muttering, "I have to return some video tapes."
@juliewestevents1567
3 жыл бұрын
It's a must
@vice.nor.virtue
3 жыл бұрын
ahahah I watched this film about an hour ago and thought to myself that i really must remember that "return som video tapes" line IRL
@willk5556
3 жыл бұрын
Without going into detail, "the rat moment" in the book is one of the most uncomfortable things I've experienced, like JESUS CHRIST
@astridarideout1864
3 жыл бұрын
omg, yes! i don't regret reading the book, but it's one i will never reread
@seannanana84
3 жыл бұрын
I have read some fucked up horror books and seen a lot of horror films but that was the closest to wanting to vomit I have ever felt while reading. It was deeply uncomfortable and I still don't know how I managed to get through the book. I still have a copy on my book shelf and I know I'm never going to read it again.
@Madsovic999
3 жыл бұрын
Yeah, the rat in the metal bucket held to a womans abdomen while a candle burns under it, forcing the rat to gnaw its way out though the soft abdomen. It is so completely messed up i had my doubts about Easton Ellis sanity after reading it
@mollytovxx4181
3 жыл бұрын
@@Madsovic999 That's... not quite what he did with the rat. In any case Ellis didn't invent the idea of rat torture. It may have been a historic torture method (jury is still out on the veracity of that), and variations can be found in other works of fiction such as Nineteen Eighty Four and Game of Thrones.
@schiz0phren1c
3 жыл бұрын
Yeah that was fecking horrific, I watched a Today I Found Out vid the other day on Ancient torture, and one was the Rat torture and I said NOPE NOPE NOPE!
@michellebrowne9100
3 жыл бұрын
Wisecrack: "the boring descriptions -" me: "NO THOSE WERE THE PARTS I LIKED EVERYTHING ELSE WAS EXCRUCIATING, AT LEAST I LEARNED ABOUT FABRIC"
@juliewestevents1567
3 жыл бұрын
Thank you, agreed. If you don't understand Bret Easton Ellis, don't try to discuss his books.
@michellebrowne9100
3 жыл бұрын
@@juliewestevents1567 I mean I don't know if I *understand* the man, but I do know that I'd rather read about twill and pantsuits and high society than gruesome, misogynistic murders. I have a strong stomach, but the cannibalism scenes in the book were really, really gruelling. Like, the movie -pardon the phrasing - was so much more palatable than the book. And I'm a person who actually giggled my way through the Hannibal books, because I found them cheesy and not really scary. American Psycho is one of the most difficult and unpleasant reads I've ever endured, but the descriptions of fabric weren't the problem! At least for me. Art's subjective, and all.
@TheMordecai1985
3 жыл бұрын
THANK YOU
@justink5585
3 жыл бұрын
Yeah, this was one of my favourite books to read, and a big part of that was how in depth we get to know this character. Instead of gliding from beginning to middle to end, this novel gave us in-depth glimpses into how Bateman sees the world, thinks, acts. The book was also incredibly funny throughout, and not boring at all in my opinion. While I enjoyed the film adaptation, as most of the scenes are directly taken from the book (even if they are heavily reduced in length, cut, rearranged and merged) a lot of what made the book great, which is for me Batemans excessive inner monologues, was absent in the movie.
@grayk02
3 жыл бұрын
The Bret Easton Ellis novel was the only time the written word has made me feel physically ill… The description of the woman he nailed to his apartment floor and tortured with the rat…the words created such a visceral image in my head I had to put the book down
@onastick2411
10 ай бұрын
Try "Last Exit to Brooklyn"
@ThorsShadow
3 жыл бұрын
6:38 On the picture: "all our products are genderless, vegan & cruelty free". I'm not sure, if that company gets the irony of that statement....
@fabioluizalvaresosti7115
3 жыл бұрын
i think you don't get the irony of the company
@heartache5742
3 жыл бұрын
it's got layers
@ThorsShadow
3 жыл бұрын
@@fabioluizalvaresosti7115 Well, enlighten me smart guy. Does the company not seriously sell the products they offer?
@bilibiliism
3 жыл бұрын
@@ThorsShadow they are ironically selling
@VintageFenrir
3 жыл бұрын
The book was supposed to be boring? I really liked the description of things.
@anonb4632
3 жыл бұрын
The "boring" bits were some of the funniest.
@chrislogan8643
3 жыл бұрын
This is the first time I've heard anyone say the book was boring.
@r011ing_thunder6
3 жыл бұрын
@@chrislogan8643 not my first time. You seem the Amazon reviews?
@Rad-Dude63andathird
2 жыл бұрын
It's because it goes on and on and on. Some people don't mind that so much but others do.
@GraviticFlux0530
2 жыл бұрын
I believe it's supposed to be drawn out to show how much Bateman is obsessed with material objects
@FlyingDogz07
3 жыл бұрын
Seeing a video about books on wisecrack makes me miss Thug Notes. That was the show that made me a fan of this channel. Stayed subbed ever since.
@Kortita
3 жыл бұрын
Same here! 🖖🏾
@mulawarmankwsuper
3 жыл бұрын
Yup me too
@LucidLazarus
2 жыл бұрын
i read the book not along ago and i always tell my friends that movie bateman has some sort of likability for some reason... but the bateman in the book is literally inhuman
@FernandoThegreat
3 жыл бұрын
I laughed so hard at the U2 scene in the book
@FlyteDanny
3 жыл бұрын
I completely forgot about that part, that felt very shitpost-y on Ellis's behalf.
@FernandoThegreat
3 жыл бұрын
@@FlyteDanny my Dad is a huge U2 fan. So when he sees Bono as the devil, I nearly died laughing. To be fair Ellis is super into bubblegum pop.
@anonb4632
3 жыл бұрын
Genesis for me. 👍
@JohnMoseley
3 жыл бұрын
Which one is the Ledge?
@juliewestevents1567
3 жыл бұрын
And the Tom cruise elevator scene
@andyn46
3 жыл бұрын
I’d love a comparison of the show “You” versus the novel. In the show even though Joe does some horrible things, we still kind of root for him. In the novel, it’s so interesting to hear 100% of that inner monologue and really hear how sick and twisted he truly is
@simonblackwell3576
3 жыл бұрын
Woah didn’t know “You” was a novel, pretty nifty factoid
@andyn46
3 жыл бұрын
@@simonblackwell3576 it’s worth a read for sure, the first book is almost page for page the events of the first season, the second book is where things get really interesting because it’s actually quite different, although still great. You see the show in a totally different way after reading the book, while we get tastes of Joe’s delusions in the show, in the novel we fully experience what an utter psychopath he is
@cosmojenkins3020
2 жыл бұрын
@@andyn46 Him being so attractive and his voice being so seductive in the show definitely makes it easier to root for him. It says a lot about humanity: We forgive attractive, charismatic people for horrific behavior all the time.
@spookyshark632
3 жыл бұрын
The fact that Bateman doesn't like 70s Genesis is enough to make me hate him.
@anonb4632
3 жыл бұрын
I hate 70s Genesis too. 😉
@BigDaddyZakk420
3 жыл бұрын
The book is infinitely better, honestly. The themes really come through a lot better in written form.
@bluepajamagamers5704
3 жыл бұрын
Nope
@juliewestevents1567
3 жыл бұрын
100%
@punkybrewstar83
3 жыл бұрын
But I would have never read all of his books, if I had never seen American Psycho.
@souljastation5463
2 жыл бұрын
Sure, but let's nor forget it's hollywood we're talking about. A non-hollywood movie could have been way more faithful to the book. The movie is just a sanitised version of the story, that's all that it is, a fast-food-like entertaining spectacle with predigested morals, that don't work because they're second-hand(we don't actually see what he does), hence the people idolising him. Screen Bateman's violence is harmless, he's almost a Tom and Jerry cartoon character.
@geordiejones5618
2 жыл бұрын
I just think it would have been better as like half the size it ended up being. It didn't have enough plot to justify over 400 pages.
@Fetjdg
3 жыл бұрын
I found the book really hard to read but at the same time it was brilliant. It is really well written from the perspective of a psychopath. All the thought patterns, all the seemingly unimportant things he thinks about (probably to cope with his lethal feelings). If you don't skip the endless paragraphs about designer clothes, you will notice some funny contradictions. But I can't say that it was a pleasure to read. It still is a masterpiece of art.
@SunshineSuperstar
2 жыл бұрын
DiCaprio is a fantastic actor, but Bale's performance in this role is and was sublime. I couldn't imagine a single other actor on the planet would have done this role as much justice as Bale gave it!
@Alex-df9db
3 жыл бұрын
Nothing beats the rat scene in the book, Jesus Christ
@michaelm3691
3 жыл бұрын
Rats got to eat too
@anonb4632
3 жыл бұрын
Nah, his discussion of eighties era Genesis in the book is sublime. 😄
@dangeloromero3874
3 жыл бұрын
Would you recommend I buy the book?
@thedoomaster14
3 жыл бұрын
@@dangeloromero3874 it's nasty
@granolaassasin
3 жыл бұрын
@@dangeloromero3874 great book. Highly recommend
@OrderRealm
3 жыл бұрын
Hi this is paul. Been called away to London for a few days. Ill text you when I get back. Hasta la vista baby.
@AminorMorning
2 ай бұрын
That's not in the book and it's anachronistic seeing as as the line was quoting T2 from 1991 and Bateman is recording that answer phone message in the late 80s
@PivotDJ
3 жыл бұрын
Omg the internet censorship afraid of being demonetized. Ug KZitem is just cable tv now
@anonb4632
3 жыл бұрын
It is fast becoming what people came here to avoid.
@timtones75
3 жыл бұрын
The most important difference IMO is that in the book those detailed descriptions anchor the initial narrative and gradually go away, leaving the story more and more chaotic. You are not sure if the things are really happening AND you are not sure Patrick is getting more crazy or if you are entering more in his mind as the facade of normalcy is abandoned.
@dabob878
2 жыл бұрын
i see what you’re saying but the movie accomplished the same thing
@handoffate7262
Жыл бұрын
The book is boring right up until it’s not and then it makes you wanna throw up and cry at what you’re reading. Easton Ellis is truly one of the great modern writers.
@CiaoRooster
2 жыл бұрын
I didn’t find the lists boring but fascinating. This is where the true psychosis lies. His confusing Eponine with Cosette. The brand names of ties subtly changing without comment. The historiography of the West Side being undesirable. This is where Bateman’s fragmented reality comes to life and is thrilling. By contrast the helicopter scene is crazy over the top. It’s where I go-oh, this is just unreal. It’s all a dream. Of Heron wanted otherwise, she could have done with an edit.
@DeniseDutton
3 жыл бұрын
Dominic Noble has been doing "Lost in Adaptation" video essays for years... But to my knowledge he hasn't done American Psycho yet. So thanks for this!
@oliviagomesmartins2225
3 жыл бұрын
I can't remember much of the book because of his extensive rants on superficial things and I think that's kind of the point: he's completely, utterly empty. If I'm not mistaken, one of the characteristics of someone with anti social personality disorder is feeling constantly bored, so those monologues kinda put you in the mindset of being bored out of your skull precisely because that's how he feels all the time. His extremely gory murders are the closest he can get to excitement. It's an absolute hell inside his head. One part that really impacted me was that scene when he calls his secretary from a public phone, rambling and yells "just say no!" to some lunch appointment. In the book, the way it's written in such an anxiety inducing way, a few minutes that feel like they last for hours, feel so much like an actual panic attack, you feel like the entire environment is hostile and somehow gives you the feeling of depersonalization. I read that years ago but I remember having to do breathing exercises because I was almost having a panic attack. Overall, I think the author did a fantastic job of portraying the mindset of someone with severe mental issues.
@roronoalaw7772
Жыл бұрын
Always found it interesting in the book where his brother is the only character Bateman doesn’t give a clothing or physical appearance description to. I don’t know what that means but I know it isn’t just because he hates him as he hates a few people and still gave their descriptions. Also almost every woman is blonde.
@michawrzosek5417
9 ай бұрын
Not sure if it has to do with anything, but Patrick seems to have some kind of inferiority complex towards his brother
@leen8430
2 жыл бұрын
What I love so much about this channel is that no matter which video I click, whether I know about the themes or media it deals with or not, I am guaranteed to find an entertaining, very-well made, highly interesting and even educational dive into the topic. And no matter who presents it to me, I always enjoy it. Great work guys, thanks so much for all your content. A few weeks back when I first found you I commented you might become my favorite channel, and here you are, already firmly holding in a place in my un-ranked, all-time top three. Thank you!
@margaretsteadman8842
3 жыл бұрын
I read this book, several times. I was fascinated and horrified by the ongoing theme of dissonance. There was no particular reason or rational, there was no 'worthy' to live . What I found most amazing is that the killer tries over and over to confess, even going so far as to leave a voice message on his colleges phone. The worst part of the book, for me , was when he killed an old man and the old man's dog, a shar pei. In conversation with the old man, he had just told brett that he was moving to Florida. That's when I realized how arbitrary all this slaughter really was, and it almost made me throw up. What did the poor dog do to deserve to be slaughtered so visciously?
@brillbillbutstill
3 жыл бұрын
I love how the book makes Bateman ramble incoherently about music (Whitney Houston). He's exactly what he needs to be
@FilmBuffBros
2 жыл бұрын
@6:22 "in the book he's positively inhuman" *What about the Hamptons vacation with Evelyn, or the park bench chapter with Jean? *Not to mention the music critiques. .. Bateman might be the most ambiguous character in modern American literature: mind-numbingly materialistic and grotesquely sadistic - however not "inhuman" in the slightest way.
@WalldoTheWInner
2 жыл бұрын
I really liked the book. Goes from "mean girls with ties" to "Cannibal Corpse lyrics" pretty quick 😂
@danablack7919
3 жыл бұрын
You're totally right about the book and the movie being two special kinds of animal. I LOVED both but the book has this tendency to page after page of insignificant detail, the movie is a streamlined piece of magic, taking the best pieces from the book and concentrates on the satirical elements and as you said, the more 'Fun' elements. One is a companion piece for the other.
@Uraniumpage09
3 жыл бұрын
Mubi is one of the worst company names I’ve ever heard.
@suimeingwong2043
3 жыл бұрын
Better than Quibi, but not much.
@schiz0phren1c
3 жыл бұрын
Sounds like a child asking to see a movie.
@matthewbarratt6929
3 жыл бұрын
The ‘A glimpse of a Thursday afternoon’ chapter is a great indication in my view that Bateman committed every crime. It begins mid sentence in which Bateman seems to have no idea where he is an undergoes some sort of breakdown. The chapter shows that Bateman is capable of losing track of time, enduring these blackouts in which he essentially sleepwalks throughout the day. Therefore, what’s to say that he didn’t endure one of these blackouts, clean the apartment and then return to see the woman there, who is selling the apartment because Allen is presumed missing by the authorities and she wants to take advantage of this. At the same time though, it’s possible that the woman herself cleaned the apartment as in a certain chapter - I don’t remember the name - Bateman’s maid enters his apartment and cleans a bloodstain off the wall will little protest. Doesn’t really matter at the end of the day, but I’m certain that he committed all of the crime in the book at least.
@Whofan06
3 жыл бұрын
I always liked how much more ambiguous the film is at the end cause it says more about how even when a severely mentally ill person is screaming out for help, telling everyone around they are going to or have hurt people, and no one takes them seriously. No one does anything to stop it or help a psychopath before they become violent because its too uncomfortable to address. The film definitely portrays a culture that couldn't address an underlying problem if it was dropped dead in front their noses
@howlingwolf7280
3 жыл бұрын
In the book, the part with the child and the part with the fluorescent light tube unsettled me in ways I cant begin to describe. The movie didn't really deliver any of the same extremes in emotions. Its a good film, just not the story I read.
@chiyo-chanholocaust8143
2 жыл бұрын
17:26 Honestly the cab driver scene still makes me doubt reality. The guy knows Bateman killed his friend yet doesn't call the cops just because there's no reward? That makes as much sense as the real state agent covering up Paul Allen's death to sell the apartment
@davidday-muncey5766
2 жыл бұрын
It can make sense because almost every character in the novel are as unfeeling and psychotic as Bateman - he's just more sadistic.
@kentuckyfriedchildren5385
2 жыл бұрын
I think the cab driver part in the book should have been a scene, it would probably be the most powerful scene in the entire movie and I think it would convey the message of the film best, especially because it doesn't come from a deranged psychopath, but a regular person.
@katarzynaszajkowski8394
3 жыл бұрын
I've been obsessed with this movie for as long as I can remember -- in high school, I made my best friend and the two guys we were with watch it and needless to say that maybe wasn't the best first impression
@mlanderson5227
11 ай бұрын
You need therapy
@michaeldavis7996
3 жыл бұрын
As a teacher of a HS course called Literature & Film, I am excited by this new series you have started. So far, though, the two choices--this and Fight Club...books and films--have a lot of similarities. I hope that there is more variety to come. Keep up the good work. (My personal favorite is 2001: A Space Odyssey)
@tomasc88
3 жыл бұрын
he will say its boring, and that the film is trippy and boring. Fuck this channel. Sub scince thug notes.
@lifesavapor
Жыл бұрын
If you read this in class you will be imprisoned 😂
@Pedrofconde
3 жыл бұрын
The explicit violence of the novel is absolutely fundamental, along with the descriptive sections about music, clothing, furniture, etc. More than a satire about yuppie culture, the book is a commentary about 80s american pop culture in general, and about how frivolous, superficial, explicit, saturated, bombastic and even pornographic it really is. Patrick Bateman lives in a world of high-definition superficiality, he himself is nothing beyond surface. In order to fit in with humanity, he can only only rely on surface appearances, for it is the only thing he knows. This only exacerbates his own madness, leading him to ever greater brutalities against his victims, in an attempt to pierce these surfaces - and alas, finding only more bloody surfaces... Therefore, the violence serves not only as an exacerbated critique of "porno" culture, but it also represents the ultimate consequence of a purely superficial existence.
@stayedthread8822
2 жыл бұрын
I have Asperger's, and as a result I find it very difficult to keep track of names in books and movies, so as a result the theme of 'everyone of these people are the same' was enhanced tenfold
@elliotspencer5300
2 жыл бұрын
In the book the book his family owns the Company he works for, also his brother is a spook or cia, so he could have stuff covered up even though he hates him. Big wealthy family, mummy says look after Patrick??
@jacemorgan
2 жыл бұрын
I think the movie is more relatable whereas the book is terrifying, everyone has thought about killing someone, not everyone thinks about eat someone or ripping out their eyes.
@flightofthebumblebee9529
Жыл бұрын
The book is literally 10x more disturbing than the film. I totally forgot he kills a boy at the zoo, and Paul Owen's (Allen) death scene is way more graphic. He also hooks up jumper cables and battery pack to a hooker's boobs and cooks her alive and eats another hooker's brains (one of many). He doesn't KILL the homeless dude like in the film but he does gouge his eyes out and later we see the same dude with a sign saying he was in Vietnam and Bateman whispers "you weren't in Nam". Oddly enough, Bateman's role in The Rules of Attraction novel actually shows him as a man who is sad about his father being a vegetable and sad that his brother doesn't care about anything.
@pyrotheevilplatypus
3 жыл бұрын
Sooo...this is another "movie actually beats the book" I can add to my list? Good, Jaws was getting lonely.
@prettypleasewithsugarontop4858
3 жыл бұрын
Mash the movie is better and Forrest Gump as well
@jewfroDZak
3 жыл бұрын
Nope. This is one of the best books I've ever had the pleasure reading .
@SpecterSprite
2 жыл бұрын
I totally disagree with your read on Evelyn. She is portrayed as shallow in the movie too. In the scene where Patrick breaks up with her she starts bawling to make a scene and after Patrick leaves she shuts it off immediately, giving us a look like "Well that didn't go like I wanted it to". You guys literally played the clip in this video!
@WhatsYourGhostStory
3 жыл бұрын
"Choke" would be an interesting one to cover.... one of the few times I've ever seen a movie try to be too loyal to the book and have it backfire. Great book, cluttered movie.
@shellyenglish
2 жыл бұрын
I loved that book.
@WhatsYourGhostStory
2 жыл бұрын
@@shellyenglish Me too! :)
@antoniomitreski9937
3 жыл бұрын
The Shining Book vs Movie.
@1marcelfilms
Жыл бұрын
The book: boring long text The movie: wow he is literally me
@JBX07
3 жыл бұрын
I think the book and the movie make great companion pieces. The movie warms you up and when you read the book you look forward to the violence and power through the banality. When you get the violence in the book it's so horrible and viscerally unpleasant that you feel extra bad that you looked forward to it.
@tenorenstrom
2 жыл бұрын
Honestly surprised people consider this book boring. I remember not being able to stop reading and afterwards I wrote a couple of short stories in the exact style of BEE because I thought the style was ingenious and made you unable to stop reading. No wonder I didn't get published! :)
@connorbooth7207
3 жыл бұрын
I finished the book recently. I was surprised to see that there is a clothing line inspired by the character. Then I learned it’s based off the character in the movie. The character in the book is much more brutal than the movie and not someone to be inspired by in any way. I also skipped some of the chapters, like the Whitney Houston and the Huey Lewis chapters. I understood why they were in the book, but they were just boring haha
@mewxtwo
3 жыл бұрын
I am currently reading the book after seeing the movie a few times over the years, and I gotta say it is much more disturbing. The way the reader is just constantly in Bateman's psychotic, overly descriptive mind simply cannot be replicated via film and makes for some twisted shit.
2 жыл бұрын
SPOILERS FOR THE BOOK: What scene is worse: A - the child B - the rat C - the exploding car battery D - some other
@Thebigman2.0
Жыл бұрын
Don't forget the homeguy AL and Patrick's secretary Bethany
@johnnyconker1176
3 жыл бұрын
So... is this not just Cinefix's "What's The Difference" series under different branding?
@dontmakelemonade
3 жыл бұрын
We've made those jokes already.
@heartache5742
3 жыл бұрын
copyright was a mistake
@Kaylakaze
3 жыл бұрын
No, it's Dominic Noble's "Lost in Adaptation" series under different branding.
@heartache5742
3 жыл бұрын
@@Kaylakaze they aren't that similar though
@KhadijaMbowe
3 жыл бұрын
Oh my god thank you...it took so much for me to finish that book a few years back. It was gory as hell and also SO BORING. I just remember wondering why the hell there were album reviews as whole-ass chapters. SIR 👏🏿NO👏🏿ONE👏🏿CARES👏🏿
@fishsmell2570
3 жыл бұрын
You're unironically the clap between words emoji person. And you read books? I doubt your comprehension honestly. Trash...
@bengolious
3 жыл бұрын
They're both respectively excellent. In a few respects the film is superior, it's pacier and presents more characters with whom we can empathise such that we're more emotionally invested in what happens to them. However, the filmmakers understood that film is a different medium so they wisely toned down the violence and strengthened the connection between the materialism and the misogyny, mirroring the real-world dehumanisation that Ellis was critiquing. Both works are notable and worthwhile when taken on their own terms but I've yet to hear a compelling argument in favour of the novel over the film. Fact is some adaptations are superior to their source material, see also Batman: The Animated Series and The Godfather.
@batbite_
2 жыл бұрын
You've explained the importance of the Rolex in the book: the taxi driver takes it.
@kirbymarchbarcena
3 жыл бұрын
PATRICK BATEMAN: I am sure there is nothing wrong with me, right? BRUCE WAYNE: I dressed up like a bat to fight crime, I guess that's normal? TREVOR REZNIK: I lost 62 pounds and couldn't sleep, what's worse than that?
@helpyourcattodrive
2 ай бұрын
The scene w the lawyer who won’t believe him is great.
@metaldude4563
2 жыл бұрын
The book more effectively does what Easton Ellis set out to do, but this also makes it much less enjoyable. It's effective at making you hate Bateman but it's really a slog at points. Also, the sheer depravity of the violence committed against women in the novel really makes you question Easton Ellis' views on women, questions that are only reinforced by a lot of his public statements
@charsquatch600
2 жыл бұрын
I read the book in high school and it's absolutely terrifying in it's banality. Particularly with the scene with a tube
@infinitynight1
3 жыл бұрын
Wisecrack: new video, whaddya think? Me: Impressive, very nice.
@therealpescado
Жыл бұрын
I'm late to the party here but something I really liked in the book was how Bateman was such a hypocrite at times. Like on one page he'd be criticizing his coworker for being rude to a homeless man, being disgusted that he would treat the homeless man like that, and then on the next he'd be calling a homeless person the n word and stabbing them. I think this irony made the novel funny in a dark way sometimes, because you just have to laugh at how ridiculous Patrick is.
@dustinarand
11 ай бұрын
I don't remember thinking the book was boring. Actually I laughed out loud more reading that book than any other I've read. The digressions where he reviews Whitney Houston or Huey Lewis are satire gold. As for whether the murders happened or not, I think the ambiguity is the point. For Bateman, killing in real life and killing in his head are no different, since he feels nothing for his victims either way. It's yet another way of pointing out how the materialist yuppie culture leads to solipsism and nihilism.
@ata_bateman793
23 сағат бұрын
Lunar park novel proves murders are real
@HeatherHolt
3 жыл бұрын
Fight club now American psycho?? Y’all doing all my favorite books/movies. Too bad Donnie Darko wasn’t a book.
@NotBruceWayne100
2 жыл бұрын
I kind of liked how much he described all the food, clothes, etc. it just allowed me to really get a feel for what he sees
@jeffcherubin9073
3 жыл бұрын
0:35 Fun fact: Gloria Steinem is Christian Bale's stepmom
@DestroIABM
3 жыл бұрын
One of the most disturbing books I've ever read. I'm sorry Michael has to read it for this video.
@JordyToons
3 жыл бұрын
I love the film but the book was so hard to read because it was so disturbing! It felt like reading the dairy of an actual murdering psychopath haha
@gunnerygroyper4957
2 жыл бұрын
Wonder why they didn’t include Bateman’s trip to the zoo in the film…
@nkesteren
2 жыл бұрын
I was 20 reading this on the train back in the 90s. If the book cover title didn't give it away for the person sitting in front of me, I was constantly thinking: 1. why am I reading this? 2. if you only had a clue what I was reading right now, you'd flee. That book scarred me for life. Had to get fresh air and stop reading every paragraph so I wouldn't throw up or pass out.
@julianalvarez879
3 жыл бұрын
Damn, i only have to ask once in the previous video for you to do it. Not sure if i should use this power for evil or for good
@gateauxq4604
3 жыл бұрын
Yes.
@Kaerikillington
Жыл бұрын
'On The Patty Winters Show this morning a Cheerio sat in a very small chair and was interviewed for close to an hour.'
@ballisticpug6764
2 жыл бұрын
I actually really liked the book. I didn't think it was that boring, because it actually reminded me of how I write in my diary 😂
@felipeberlim3587
3 жыл бұрын
This video made me interested in reading the book. Obsessing with trivia and material things while dehumanizing everybody around is exactly what the mind of a psycopath would be. But the back story of the adaptation to the movie is really interesting, they were very clever when showing the point of view of the woman in the story and also making a point about it.
@capncake8837
10 күн бұрын
I don’t know if I really felt for Evelyn in the movie. As soon as Bateman leaves, she stops crying and instead looks mad at the inconvenience of him breaking up with her. This shows that she’s also as vain as he is.
@ata_bateman793
23 сағат бұрын
In novel Evelyn cheats on Patrick
@hosseinfaridnasr2778
3 жыл бұрын
He is the western Kira Yoshikage
@thepatientgamer98
3 жыл бұрын
Finally, a JoJo reference
@dv1098
2 жыл бұрын
Just because you can't relate to the Pat Bateman from the book doesn't mean other people can't. Cue ball
@michaelmaage
3 жыл бұрын
It's long time since I read American Psycho, but I do remember the long and boring passages, that is meant to show Patrick Batman's superiority (to us the readers), but comes out as hollow theater thunder. He tells you what he think he should tell you for you to believe he has class. That's why the book is so amazing. He is not only keeping up appearances with the other characters but with us as readers as well. After plowing through 4 long takes about musicians and their discographies, he mentions in a throwaway sentences that his favorite (music) artist is Bruce Willis (if I remember correctly). The epiphany of bad taste! Many times he only knows that the mask is falling when other characters react in horror, disgust or confusion, like when he read his lovely "haiku" poem to his ex-girlfriend, or passes a 20$ note in a female students coffee (he drugged out of his mind think is a homeless). Do to the untrustworthy narrator, reading the book makes you feel like a detective not only guessing what is happening but also what is the real person behind the facade that is Patrick Bateman.
@Rad-Dude63andathird
2 жыл бұрын
You felt for Patrick's fiancee? I sure didn't. They're both actively cheating on one another and their relationship solely exists for appearances. The only reason she makes a scene in the restaurant is to come out of it making Bateman look worse.
@BrunDawgie
3 жыл бұрын
I’m uncultured swine. Didn’t know it was based on a book... I miss Jared 🥺
@timtims2258
3 жыл бұрын
AMERICAN ICON Reese Witherspoon. You describe her with the same banality the book does any other person or commodity, and I'm not sure you guys had the same satirical approach.
@the_echoYT
2 жыл бұрын
Having not read the book (yet), the description of the scene with the cab driver strikes me in two ways in relation to the themes and mission of the narrative: 1. The cabbie is similarly driven by materialism, but at the same time this is used to take from Bateman what matters most to him. 2. Bateman is informed that he has no bounty or reward for his arrest. In other words: he is *worthless* in this material world. Rather than being evidence to the veracity of his crimes, this interaction is the final word and insult on Bateman and the vapid culture he represents. You could probably compare this to A Clockwork Orange, where the film similarly omits the book's ending and winds up significantly altering the final impressions as a result.
@fishsmell2570
3 жыл бұрын
I feel like this guy is just reading a script. It's staged. He has no real passion for this. That's why mainstream is dying and a lot of independent creators are gaining steam.
@Dogofwarno7
3 жыл бұрын
Didn't the book point out Patrick Bateman's wardrobe in exhaustive detail, only for fashion historians to point out that the combinations he said he wore would look ridiculous in real life? I think that was a point the filmakers missed as well, that these people were so interchangeable, even one with a horrible suit blended in?
@sjeanmacleod
3 жыл бұрын
Love the Dead shirt!
@SarahJane96
3 жыл бұрын
Please do the Lovely Bones- it's my favourite book of all time, so descriptive and darkly magical, but love how the film depicted certain things too :) American Psycho is probably my second favourite - both the film and book!
@funkytikigod7039
3 жыл бұрын
Maybe I should give the movie a try even though I didn't really enjoy the book. I had to skip some chapters out of boredom and the torture scenes were um... extreme. I think I liked what the book was trying to say though.
@horrorfanandy4647
3 жыл бұрын
The movie is still quite unpleasant, but very very very funny in sections and nowhere near the level of sickening that was “American Psycho” the book. That ending though. Truly unsettling.
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