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@silaspierre1377
Жыл бұрын
maybe everyone is jusy buying 3006 during these trying times because they know its good
@Anschutz270
Жыл бұрын
@@silaspierre1377 I was going to say you can't look at what's in stock but what's selling.
@davidlaneer9828
Жыл бұрын
Some of the New Mexico elk hunting guides have started calling the 6.5 Creedmoor the 6.5 Needmoor, just a little under powered for elk.
@bretnmannn
Жыл бұрын
a wildcat that takes literaly 15 seconds to neck down- a 7mm-33 nosler with a 190 grn .838BC bullet from a carbon fiber bbl and titanium action! the case has a longer neck than a 28 nosler which promotes longer barrel life! alows bullet seating out of the powder of the case at the case shoulder neck junction, while still fitting into a Long action detacable magazine with a 3.760'' inside length! etc/etc,
@luchacefox259
Жыл бұрын
Terrible recommendations. Everything on his list is a modern hype caliber. Do yourself a favor, ignore this guys advice and buy a .264 Win Mag. It's better than everything on his list in every measurable way.
@johnbrown7312
Жыл бұрын
I am a 30-06 fan, you can pick up shells in your local gas station, and it will work on virtually all game on the continent.
@cat2972
Жыл бұрын
Same with my. 308 gas station wise. Lol
@backfire
Жыл бұрын
Good choice
@nicodabastard
Жыл бұрын
Everything on all continents tbh.
@echofoxtrotwhiskey1595
Жыл бұрын
@@nicodabastard Yup. Roosevelt took Elephant with the 30-06 and Hemingway took Rhino with it.
@jr7548
Жыл бұрын
There is a reason why a cartridge that is over 100 years old, served in 2 world wars, and countless other conflicts is still around. It just simply works. And if you hand load, modern powders and bullet designs have really given it a new life.
@kylefutter9118
Жыл бұрын
I have a mauser m18 chambered in 30-06 and have used it to take elk, moose, and deer everywhere up to 400m. The thing I like most is that I can get dope on 150g for deer, 165g for elk and 180g for moose and hunt all 3 in a day just by having different loads and dope. I know it's an old cartridge but I personally love it.
@et9650
Жыл бұрын
You can hunt 7 continents with this round….effectively
@robertagusti3712
Жыл бұрын
not only that if u loaded with 180gr at 2950 fps will beat that PRC IN ENERGY.
@chrisstratford4902
Жыл бұрын
@@robertagusti3712 i hand load my 30.06 in 175 gn hollow points and ive dropped elk at 600 deer at 4 and 500 and a moose at 350 all about shot placement
@NotBOB-81
Жыл бұрын
@@robertagusti3712 That's cool and all but with the prc you don't have to worry about blowing your gun up because of the high pressure. I went through all my load data plus several references the best 180gr load I can work up is 56gr imr in a Remington 700 with a 24in barrel and a 1-10 twist and I get right at 2850fps. The prc will give high velocity without pressure issues. PLEASE BE VERY CAREFUL. I say this because even my Hornady manual shows a max loading around 2700fps. I loaded the imr 4831 with 56.5gr and the manual specs the max at 56.3gr. I went over the max in my load by .2gr and got pressure signs around the primer. If you got 2900+fps with a 180gr pill I'd like to get your load data and see if I can get those velocities.
@robertagusti3712
Жыл бұрын
@@NotBOB-81 I have RUGER #1-B 26 IN RL 17 57 GR I THINK IS THE ACTION AND THE 26 IN BARREL WHAT S MADE THE DIFFERENT.
@puma51921
Жыл бұрын
One thing the ammunition shortage has taught me is to have a caliber you can find everywhere. 243, 308, 3006 and 270 were still available most places.
@simongloutnez589
Жыл бұрын
Ive started hunting 2 years ago, niw Im looking for my first big game rifle and have the same conclusion. Yes id like better perforfance... but can I truly take advantage of that as a rookie shooter ? Heck no! Im going for affordable!
@donaldmartin4980
Жыл бұрын
If you only hunt deer, wild pigs and smaller creatures the .243 is great . If anything larger say bears, elk, or moose could happen …. Take any of the other three and you are fine.
@sdriza
Жыл бұрын
Picked up an AR-10 exactly for that reason
@EliteNugz
11 ай бұрын
@@simongloutnez589 the 308 is a good choice. Great performance and available everywhere. No high powered rifle rounds are cheap and the difference between a 243 and a 300 isn't much. I'd go with a 7mm mag if it was me because it's a little more per box but the best performance unless you go up to the super high powered expensive stuff like the 338 Lapua or bigger. And there's actually very little difference between the 7mm mag and the 338 Lapua.
@elcidcampeador9629
9 ай бұрын
It taught me the exact opposite. 9mm and 5.56 were no existent while 10mm was everywhere, at least near me
@et9650
Жыл бұрын
Yeah I’ll keep hunting with my 30-06. Gun and ammo manufacturers are trying to sell people shit, kinda hard to do that if your out there telling them what they have works perfectly fine. Nope you need the latest and greatest, it will make you taller, look better , shoot better and have super models kicking down your door.
@patobrien7009
Жыл бұрын
I have a 300 wsm, 7/08, 270, and a 6.5 creedmoor. At 72 my backcountry hunting days are over so I just reach in the safe with eyes closed and whatever I pull out is what I'm hunting with. Kinda fun really.
@jamessurratt2227
Жыл бұрын
For me personally the 270 winchester is and always be my go to rifle. That would be my pick of the litter.
@KeystoneTexan
Жыл бұрын
Mine too! I couldn’t agree more
@andrewpeterson5882
Жыл бұрын
Same here. Insanely good ballistics for such an "old" cartridge, extremely manageable recoil/comfortable to shoot, CHEAP AND PLENTIFUL AMMO, aaaaaaand it's the rifle I've got ;)
@Anschutz270
Жыл бұрын
Same. I have a Model 70 Extreme Weather in .270 and it is my go to hunting rifle. It isn't the most accurate, most powerful, flatest shooting, or cheapest to shoot rifle I have but it's always the one I grab when I'm heading out.
@czguy3045
9 ай бұрын
I love all the modern cartridges and certainly appreciate their superiority on paper, esp for longer distances and if you are leaning towards a match grade setup but I've shot so much 270 an 7mm Rem Mag... they are just my two 'do everything I need to do' chamberings. When I was a bit more of an active shooter, for rifles, if you ignore 22LR and 5.56, I think I literally shot as much 270 as I did everything else combined. Had a lighter rifle set up for hunting and a heavier rifle for precision work. Had a buddy that worked up a load for the heavy rifle. Awesome cartridge.
@jerryconrad2737
24 күн бұрын
Yep even in Jim's selection the .270 sat quietly in the background then it made the cut. I have really heavily considered some of the newer cartridges but at this point the .270 still checks more of the boxes. And it always works.
@everythingloud4068
Жыл бұрын
All I carry now is a 6.8 western. I hunt elk,deer,wolves, and mountain lion with it, and I can definitely say it's by far my favorite round.
@natehayes82
Жыл бұрын
Agreed. 6.8 Western and a 25-06 are my two favorites. I feel like I'll get a 45-70 and that'll cover everything on the planet
@thatredlimited4809
Жыл бұрын
Same. It’s amazing.
@FastRat24
Жыл бұрын
Same
@simongloutnez589
Жыл бұрын
I reckon you could even hunt moose with it !
@arightythen5291
11 ай бұрын
Same
@muchachonextdoor5608
Жыл бұрын
30-06 all the way. It's versatile, available, cost effective, and it works.
@eddieb4227
Жыл бұрын
Glad you included the 300wsm. It's a great cartridge. I have a tikka t3 in it. Added a muzzle break on that pencil barrel. Tamed the recoil a little but it made it a track driver. 3/8 inch at 100 yards.
@keithprinn720
8 ай бұрын
too much for most game except big ones., too much recoil to be fun, and ammo twenty bucks a box more expensive , a buck a shot. if you already have a 243 or 270 or similar hard to beat really.
@eddieb4227
8 ай бұрын
@@keithprinn720 they both are great cartridges But the 3wsm with 155 or 165 gr works on deer and black bear. I reload so the price isn't near that.
@joehart7573
Жыл бұрын
I recently picked up a Model 70 Featherweight in 30.06. I also have a .243 Model 70 Supergrade. I think I’m covered for northern Ontario. Plenty of ammo. Not too many longer shots to be had here. Deer and moose. Love all the info here though.
@thatredlimited4809
Жыл бұрын
Always love your videos. My 6.8 western has been amazing. I have ran across the brass issue you speak of… I just resize them and they are perfect ongoing. This gun is THE gun for western hunting and reloads. Lower recoil then the bigger rounds. More power then the smaller. That sweet spot for all animals.
@dwanger2007
Жыл бұрын
If you are going to have a .25 caliber it should be the .257weatherby. It kicks lighter than my .270 or at the most the same. And just flat out is a beast of a rifle without all the huge recoiling energy of a .300winmag or a normal magnum cartridge.
@robertortega8524
Жыл бұрын
I’d take 270 over 257 weatherby. Better access to more animation and just a tried and true round
@whiteSTi12
Жыл бұрын
I bought 6.5 creed for Elk hunting in Colorado, but where we hunt our max shot is no more than 300 yards because its heavily forested. Good content as always!
@sirrloin
Жыл бұрын
After watching tons of your videos and researching I ended up going with a 300 wsm for my Alaskan caribou hunt this fall. Short Action, less weight, and a short barrel for a suppressor. Lots of advantages to other 30 cals.
@tonylopez6213
Жыл бұрын
Very informative as always, but I will keep my 7mm-08. I just love that cartridge :)
@Gokywildcats11
Жыл бұрын
Does the 7mm08 have a lot of recoil???
@tatesones7755
Жыл бұрын
@@Gokywildcats11 negative
@Mountain-Man27
Жыл бұрын
@@Gokywildcats11no it’s very mild, I shoot a 120 ttsx out of it and it’s not a very noticeable increase in recoil compared to a 243. That being said you can get factory ammo from 120-150 and 160+ is u handload and the heavier bullets do kick more. That 120 ttsx dropped a nice ten point after a ten yard stumble this year with no problem.
@wasachevyguy
Жыл бұрын
@@Mountain-Man27 Agreed. I believe it’s the absolute best projectile for that caliber.
@Mountain-Man27
Жыл бұрын
@@wasachevyguy yeah I’d have no problem taking it elk hunting, I weighed it and it retained over 99% of its weight with a full pass through. I simply don’t see any reason to go to a heavier bullet unless I want a higher BC. That being said there’s no need where I currently hunt or even if I go out west since it’s pretty flat out to 300 yards. If I can’t get within 300 than I’m much more of a problem than my bullet is lol
@Bones6987
Жыл бұрын
The old 6.5swede is my absolute favorite but the 30-06 is the American get everything done cartridge and it works exactly as prescribed Great video
@ziruk-king4466
Жыл бұрын
270 simple does everything -- Wyoming guy
@TurningGuns
Жыл бұрын
I love Wyoming.
@ed9603
Жыл бұрын
yep 270 my favorite
@texasviking1
Жыл бұрын
Texas panhandle guy also agrees 👍🏻
@texasviking1
Жыл бұрын
@@ronlowney4700 and it still out shoots the 6.5 creed and that pisses some folks off to no end 😂
@johngumdoc
Жыл бұрын
And you can usually find ammo anywhere
@BadoreksDailys
Жыл бұрын
I'm going to get my dad a "one and done" rifle for his retirement in a couple years. I've been a huge 270 WSM guy for a long time, so you can imagine my excitement for the 6.8 w. I agree that it is tough to beat for the things mentioned. My only problem is, as you said, availability. It is the perfect cartridge for him on paper and my #1 choice, but I will have to go a different route if things stay the way are. I personally in fact just bought a 6.5 PRC in a nice lightweight gun for deer / antelope / etc. that I was planning on being a 6.8, but just couldn't bring myself to do it with things the way they are right now. There's a ton of cartridges that would make a great one and done 500 yard hunting cartridge, but the 6.8 just checks every box you can't check with others. Hope it takes off soon.
@thatredlimited4809
Жыл бұрын
I absolutely love my 6.8 even with the low amount of ammo choices. But I reload…. So the good brass I keep and the rare chance I come to one that doesn’t chamber. I resize it In my die set and it will be perfect the next time. If you reload there really is not one better then the 6.8… like he said though that 7 PRC is amazing. But has more kick and is not a short action cartridge…
@BadoreksDailys
Жыл бұрын
@@thatredlimited4809 Exactly. My dad will never reload so I really want something he can walk in and buy and shoot quite a bit. 280 ack might be good, but that also isn't exactly everywhere right now. He isn't retiring for a few years so I'm hoping by then it will be more common.
@jcarry5214
Жыл бұрын
@@BadoreksDailys yeah 280AI also isn't good for shooting regularly if budget matters at all. Great round, but even Hornady ammo is absolutely punishing on the wallet. Better off with a 28 Nosler than a 280 AI, it's just not taking all the way off like everyone hoped. 7mm rem isn't much cheaper but the availability is great. I have a 7 saum so I have no use for a 277 of any type but 270/6.8 really does fit the bill.
@BadoreksDailys
Жыл бұрын
@@jcarry5214 Agreed. He's more of the guy who buys a couple boxes throughout the year as he finds them, takes a couple range trips before each hunt, shoots at 100-300 yards most of the time, etc. Shoot a -06 would work great for him, I just mainly want him to have something that he can comfortably shoot at the range without a break as he gets older and will work for anything he wants to hunt with one factory ammo. I also just like 270 wsm so 6.8 seemed cool LOL. 280 AI has always been on the list for me but never needed one having a 300 wm, 7 stw, 270 wsm, etc. I just always thought it would be good for the guy like my dad who wants to have one gun that will work across the board from not blowing up antelope and not being undergunned for elk inside 400- maybe 500 yards. Hope that makes sense.
@jcarry5214
Жыл бұрын
@@BadoreksDailys It definitely does. '06 would be pretty rough for that type of use, it's amazing how much smoother the 7mm is, even with the same powder and same weight bullet. I bet the 270 class is really pleasant. I hope winchester lets more people make western ammo or brass, it really does modernize the caliber in a huge way. I would absolutely need one if I didn't have a saum.
@edwardh1591
Жыл бұрын
I always used a 7 rem mag because that is what I have and it has met my needs.
@warrenruppart8567
Жыл бұрын
Funny you discuss the relative scarcity of rifles chambered in 30-06, as I’ve noticed that myself. Easy to understand, of course, since it’s over 100 years old and lacks relative “sex appeal” compared to never offerings. To be honest, if I was starting out today, I probably wouldn’t consider it either. But, since I have a sako with a 24” barrel chambered in 30-06, I also have no objective reasons to switch; it’s killed several elk and deer (and even a javelina) at ranges from 100 to 400 yards, with bullets anywhere from 150 to 180 grains. Not flashy, but at the same time very reliable and relatively efficient and economical.
@echofoxtrotwhiskey1595
Жыл бұрын
In my neck of the woods it’s the same, but the guys behind the counter at my local shops say it’s because they’re being bought as fast as they get them in. I’ve noticed this a couple times. I’ve seen Vanguards and X-Bolts in 30-06 on the shelf one day and gone the next.
@benjaminbenedict7779
Жыл бұрын
Same in my area. Although I have been seeing a few more at sportsman’s that couple times I’ve gone in.
@skys-the-limit
Жыл бұрын
As commented, its because it's because it's still IN favor, not falling OUT of favor. Still is a major seller every year, especially with new powders and bullets even in factory ammo.
@walterlancaster2230
Жыл бұрын
I think a lot of this cartridge argument is mostly about selling new crap. There is not much that could be accomplished with new cartridges like the 6.5CM, 7PRC, 6.8 Western, etc. that can't be accomplished with more classic cartridges like the 308, 7mm-08, 270, 30-06, 7Mag, 300 Win-Mag. Most of this is just hair splitting designed to sell you stuff you don't need. As was pointed out, there is little the 6.5CM does that the 7mm-08 doesn't do better, the 6.5CM is just the latest hipster cartridge that I'm sick of hearing about. You can't seriously think you need a 7mm more powerful than a 7-Mag, If more grunt is needed, step up to a 300WM or 338WM. Heck, take a look at the ballistics of a 375H&H or 375 Ruger if you really need some grunt. While we are worrying about performance at 600 yards are we thinking of the ethics of shooting at an animal at that range or the real skill required to judge wind (steady and gusts) elevation change, and animal movement at those types of ranges??? How much of a mistake do you need to make to wound (not kill) an animal at 600 yards, down hill, on the other side of a windy canyon? My longest shot was a pronghorn at about 375 yards with a Ruger M77 7-Mag built in the 70s with a 3-9 40mm scope that was bought with the rifle in 1980. 220 Swifts, 22-250s, 30-30s, 243s, 308s, 270s, 30-06s, 7-Mags, 300WM, 338WM, 444s and 45-70s have been handling things well for decades, don't get caught up in the hype. BTW, unless you intent to spend your life's fortune on ammo, maybe folks should consider standardizing on just a few cartridges like 22lr, 5.56, 12Ga, 308, and 300WM, (or some other relatively small combination) then learn to shoot and stock up.
@j.r.6271
Жыл бұрын
.243 Winchester & 6.5 Creedmoor were the most intriguing to me. Light recoil, efficiency, and availability/price rule the roost.
@stasiuk76
Жыл бұрын
Second rifle I bought was 6.5 CM. (Initially tried for a .243 for my kids, but none in stock during sale, so grabbed the CM as pretty similiar recoil etc. (I have hunted with it now a couple years as a really good accurate rifle/rd.
@homeinthewhiteoaks
Жыл бұрын
I agree with everything you said about the 7-08 for elk, but for deer (look at your chart) it beats the 308 and 6creed! the two kings of long range short action cartridges. I'm not shooting elk or game larger with anything less than a 7mm Rem mag, or 300H&H. That 7-08 still strikes me as the best balanced short action round in the 308 case family. You really need to step up to a magnum bolt face to do any better. And it's true the new generation just does not seem to want a 30-06? They just think of as an "old man's" cartridge. That's a shame because it has proven itself over and over as a North American do it all cartridge since the first world war!
@wymonwatson1309
Жыл бұрын
My wife's grandmother has been killing elk for 50 years with a 30-30 doesn't matter if you use a howitzer if your a bad shot, know your limitations, as well as the limitations of your equipment and you will do fine, I also know a lot of kids that have harvested elk with a .243, so once again it's all about shot placement, effective range, and bullet selection.
@warrengreen3217
Жыл бұрын
I'm only 37 and growing up in western Pennsylvania the 30-06,308,30-30 and 303British was the only rounds talked about mainly the 30-06 and 30-30 was the top two and the 30-06 is my favorite round when I was 12 and started hunting deer my uncle had a 7mm rem mag and is was like something totally new to me my dad was a 30-06 guy guess thats why I love it
@WallabieMcDee
Жыл бұрын
@@warrengreen3217 shout out from beaver county and a lifelong .30-06 recently converted to .308
@echofoxtrotwhiskey1595
Жыл бұрын
I’m a younger guy and I’m going all in 30-06. Economy of scale is nice thing to have on your side.
@denisleblanc4506
Жыл бұрын
I agree. The 7mm-08 does everything the 308 can do but it shoots flatter, drifts less and recoils less with comparable bullets. The only knock against the 7mm-08 is factory varieties of bullets. If you want to go up to 160 grains for say moose its pretty much a reloading option. My rifle shoots most factory loads around MOA but I've only tried 140 grain and one 150 grain load. When I got a chance to hunt moose, I quickly worked up a 160 grain load with the decision I would only take perfect broadside shots past 200 and nothing over 300. Well I got two moose with one shot each and the second one was quartering to me at over 200 measured yards. One shot and it fell where it stood. I didn't want to chance it wood turn back and I would have had no shot. No its probably not a western cartridge, but for this easterner it sure does the trick. The first moose was a quick close shot that wasn't great but it smashed a rib going in and broke a rib on the off side. It only went about 50 yards.
@Ben_Lehnert
Жыл бұрын
Thanks for keeping it real at 21:26: "Use whatever you have." I love the videos, don't get me wrong, but basically you show "everything" (kinda) from 6 to about 8 mm that shoots flat enough, isn't unobtainium and not too expensive...so that sentence put it aaaall in perspective. Awesome video!
@matthewgrice6902
Жыл бұрын
When I bought a gun for my wife and daughters to use deer hunting, I went with the 6mm Remington. Better ballistics than the .243. And what a tack driver. She clover leafed the first 3 shots. Some of these old cartridges didn't get a fair shake because of odd factory issues. Wrong barrel twist, wrong cartridge loads, ammunition not available, etc.. I hope your 6.8 Western dies not become the next .257 Roberts. Another great cartridge that was killed because a couple arms makers made substandard rifles, so the ammunition makers would not load to what the cartridge could be. They made it to what the substandard rifles could handle. You should do a video on some of these lesser known calibers, like 6mm rem, .264 win mag, .257 roberts, etc.
@ironmikehallowween
Жыл бұрын
Many you tubers and gun writers always love calibers that just don’t sell. It’s just the way it is. Like the 257 Bob. They are all very good, but that isn’t enough. Nothing is going to replace the 7mm, or the 300 Win Mag. The 6.5CM is just a standout as it beat the odds to the extreme. I still enjoyed the video. Thanks PS: and now that the 6.5CM is so popular, none of them really like it anymore.
@michealfriedman7084
Жыл бұрын
I'm in Northern Idaho. Up and down the mountains. My favorite round...9.3x62
@theredflannelchannel7820
Жыл бұрын
I have been a 7mm rem mag shooter my whole adult life (I’m 38 now) but I recently acquired a pre 64 Winchester model 70 chambered in 30/06. It is now my favorite. Living in northern Idaho now you don’t need a big magnum cartridge as most shots are less than 200yds.
@RoxVrod
Жыл бұрын
I would take 300 PRC over 300 WSM. Like you, I like Hornady's PRC lineup. Looking forward to trying the 7 PRC.
@rockie307
Жыл бұрын
Backcountry rifle in my opinion needs to be light and short. Short action is lighter and performs better out of shorter barrel. Minimum 6.8 or 7mm since Grizzly live in the backcountry and not fun if a grizzly finds your elk before you do. I would prefer 30 cal short action making 300 wsm perfect. 30-06 still excellent and has the advantage of mag capacity ammo availability. Give me a 300 wsm or 30-06 in a x bolt mountain pro. 6.8 or 7mm if recoil shy and never around grizzly.
@DRHODES1979
Жыл бұрын
Watch out for a resurgence in .25 cal! At least with reloaders. With Bergers 135 LRHT and Hornady now with a 134 ELDM, both with crazy high BC's, you're going to see more people necking up or down to the .25's. I shoot 25x47 Lapua in NRL Hunter and love it! I also know guys shooting 25 Creedmoor and 25 SAUM.
@eddieb4227
Жыл бұрын
Plan on necking Down the 7mm wsm to .25. Also found cases for the 24 and 25 wssm. I believe that we will see 140g in the meet future. To bad black jack is defunct now.
@DRHODES1979
Жыл бұрын
@@eddieb4227 Nice! Yes, the Black Jacks were a great option.
@eddieb4227
Жыл бұрын
@@DRHODES1979 dues the 47 cartridge have more space than the wssm?
@DRHODES1979
Жыл бұрын
@@eddieb4227 No, it doesn't. It has less than a Creedmoor. I run about 39.0 grains of H4350. Creedmoor is more around 41 or more.
@jacktrout5807
Жыл бұрын
Yup quarter bore making a splash. Very versatile. I never hear anyone complain about 2506 for elk and know an old timer that has shot many elk with a 250 savage ai 87 grains . No problem. The 25 creed is going to be the best of the creeds.
@viktorrosales5178
Жыл бұрын
Great video as always! You help me become a fun of 7 PRC as I just got a new rifle and plan on going hunting in WY with it, will certainly let you know of my experience after I use it. Up until now I have used .308 for large game just different bullet weight.
@user-gi8ji4xv9e
Жыл бұрын
Just comparing 6.5 7mm08 308. 7mm08 win over the 3 rounds. For deer and younger crowds
@graysonloyd9024
Жыл бұрын
Good ole 243 is my absolute go to for whitetail. Was my first deer rifle as a kid, and still to this day hasn’t let me down. Heavier game than that I’ll stick with my 300wsm or 7mm. Solid choices, and awesome info!
@austinoginski9513
10 ай бұрын
Here’s a great way to look at this as a new hunter. Whenever you are looking at purchasing a rifle, always choose something you can find quality ammo for that has a high rate of availability. .308, 30-06, .270, 7 rem mag, 300 win mag, and admittedly now 6.5 Creedmoor and in some areas 6.5 prc. Unless you are coming into hunting as a shooter and reloader, then pick something that produces enough energy to take the game you want to hunt with quality factory ammunition for your first rifle. Then branch out as you adapt and evolve your preferences, the types of shooting you do, and the types of hunts you want to go on.
@scruffyarms
Жыл бұрын
I have the Ruger American in 243, Winchester XPR in 308, and then Ruger M77 (tang safety) in 338 win mag. For elk 338 all day every day. Anything else my 308 because I can change grain weight and I can buy ammo everywhere.
@redjuice23
Жыл бұрын
I know he was comparing specific cartridges in each respective caliber but the fact that he couldn't say that the 7mm08 is an "under 400 big game/elk" round after giving the 308 its due is leading people away from a terrific round of his "favorite caliber". The .284 bullet. Honestly, the best advice still comes from the Newbergs/Spooners about good western cartridges. Rounds similar to 7mm08/308 are the sweet spot for not just pros but anyone attempting to put down an elk at "hunting ranges". Bullet construction and shoot ability are the only factors. Recommendations of backcountry rifles chambered in magnum-type cartridges lead to too many disappointing and sometimes inhumane(wounded animals) hunts.
@non-binaryjesus
Жыл бұрын
Yeah I'm a 308 guy and I've been warming up to the 6.5 creedmoor. So many wildcat rounds are insane! The 6.8 looks and feels great. Maybe soon we could get some Lapua brass for it
@leifhoklin2681
Жыл бұрын
Pertaining to the 6mms: The minute performance gained by the 6mm creedmoor is not worth less rifle/ammo selection/availability. No one should be shooting medium to big game animals at 400+ yards anyway with a 6mm rifle.
@backfire
Жыл бұрын
I can appreciate that perspective.
@leifhoklin2681
Жыл бұрын
@@backfire 6 creed is bitchin’ though…
@ryansremark6983
Жыл бұрын
30-06 is still the GOAT it’s been around over a 100 years,killed pretty much every game, cheap ammo, not the hardest recoil, and every new cartridge is compared to it when talking ballistics.
@justincase3108
Жыл бұрын
Ok, sure if I was going into mid century battle I’d take a .308. But hunting? .30-06 WITHOUT A DOUBT!
@matthewrichards3570
Жыл бұрын
If you want to get technical the military never went to the .308 they went to the 7.62X51 MM as a standard NATO round and a shorter cartridge saves on weight. The .30-06 is still a superb cartridge it wasn’t replaced because the .308 is ballistically superior it was based on a logistical standpoint
@NCWoodlandRoamer
Жыл бұрын
@@Chemically_InducedWow. Your user name fits you very well.
@NCWoodlandRoamer
Жыл бұрын
@@Chemically_Induced Actually, you are wrong.
@NCWoodlandRoamer
Жыл бұрын
@@Chemically_Induced If you only shoot factory ammo then sure, just stick to .308. But if you reload then the 30-06 wins easily and the whole short action vs long action makes absolutely no difference in a bolt action hunting rifle.
@johnosborne5993
Жыл бұрын
I have a 25-06 and a 257 Weatherby. The -06 is about perfect for east coast whitetail hunting, especially with a premium bullet. But for western hunting, 100 grain TTSX out of my 257 Roy is an amazing round. Hoping to do some antelope & mule deer hunting in Wy next year with it.
@sturisa
Жыл бұрын
The .243 Winchester appeals to just about everyone of all ages; young hunters, women and men. You also have to consider the availability of the ammo. Can you find 6mm on the shelves and what does it cost? A lot of people don't reload so they depend on factory ammo. There is a reason the .243 has been around and popular for 67 years!
@Eric--zs6um
Жыл бұрын
Have fired few thousand rounds of .243 from groundhogs to deer and was what I used in groundhog matches. I'd do it all over again
@dt3852
Жыл бұрын
243 with 62 grains varmin bullet velocity 3700
@keithprinn720
8 ай бұрын
totally agree for most not wanting more grunt either, easy to shoot get ammo or custom load with obtainable components, flat shooting . Yes there are better , newer options but they dont offer anything easily obtainable or affordable. classic old model 243 sounds brilliant to me I like that look with timber stock can be forty years old with not shot out barrel anf well maintained and stored.
@LegacyOutdoors88
Жыл бұрын
I wouldn’t have even put the Creedmor in there. You have the 6.5-300, 26 Nosler 6.5-06, 264 win mag, 6.5-284 and the 6.5x55 that all shoot faster and flatter. If you are looking for longer range shots in the Midwest, you picked one of the slowest of the 6.5 cartridges.
@lavanice
Жыл бұрын
Out of 30-40 trip in 3 year to Cabila and Bass pro ammo section : Always saw 308, 6.5 cm, 30-06, 300 Win mag , 6.8 western , 243 on shelves . 90% time saw 270 on shelves. Approx 60% saw 7mm-08 on shelves. Approx 30% time saw 7mm rem mag on shelves Only 10% time saw 6.5 PRC , 280 AI on shelves . Never saw 7mm prc , 280 rem mag on shelves. For Brass - 308, 25-06, 270, 6.5 cm , 243 always available, also do saw 280AI, 7mm rem mag noslar expensive brass. All other brass never saw. As realoder i will go with 6.8 western , 6.5 cm . Will stay far from 6.5 prc, 7 mm prc at all if current time. Everything else inbetween.
@ntaylor1829
Жыл бұрын
Yay for 6.5 PRC and 300 WSM - my 2 "goto" guns for western big game hunting. My 2 6.5 PRCs are semi-custom (Gunwerks and MOA). My 2 300 WSMs are Browning A-bolt II. The last 5 animals (3 mule deer, 2 antelope) my family has shot were with the MOA 6.5 PRC, although I prefer my Gunwerks 6.5 PRC. Inside of 400 yards I love the setup and handling and decent accuracy (< 1 moa) of my 2 300 WSMs. I also have 2 270 WSMs a 300 RUM and a 30 year old 30-06, which is responsible for more kills than all of my other hunting rifles combined. I would be interested in the 7 PRC, but I'm too old to get started on yet another cartridge - I already have too many guns.
@JoeyOutlaw
Жыл бұрын
Great upload! I love videos like this from you, your a very knowledgeable person and it really puts the rounds in perspective anyone can understand and answers a lot of common ?s beginners have. Thank you. I hope you and your family have a Merry Christmas 🎄
@backfire
Жыл бұрын
Thanks for such a kind comment, Joey. Merry Christmas!
@keithhawkins4641
Жыл бұрын
what I would like to see you talk about is the shooter. I don't care what cartridge you pick if the shooter can not shoot it accurately, it is not a good choice. Most shooters should not shoot over 300 yards at any game. During my 60 years of hunting I have found animals that were shot and eventually died but never found by shooter. most were hit in correct spot or close to it, just shot from to far off. I remember as a kid there was one older guy at the time who shot deer and elk with 22.250 and 250 savage all the time. He never shot more than 100 yards. his thought was if you can't get within 100 yards you were not a good enough hunter and should not be there. I guess it does not matter which rifle you pick its how well you shoot it and knowing its effective range.
@blakestillings3084
4 ай бұрын
There is so many that stare at me longingly when I open up my safe, and have a soft spot in my heart for. But i have fallen in love with my 6.8 western!!! And I heard a juicy rumour that next year federal may start making ammunition for the cartridge ❤🤞
@noahhorinek
Жыл бұрын
I think using 280 Ackley's precision hunter data is kinda making it look worse than it is because it's not loaded very hot at all. However if you used the Terminal Ascent that you have on the table, that's only 7 grains lighter but going 100fps faster and it's sleek as heck
@Gaffneydaniel92
Жыл бұрын
I agree, my data on my hand loaded 280ai with a 168vldh is right there with his data for the prc in 175
@Plumcraziness
11 ай бұрын
A lot of these were very predictable picks, especially given Jim's favour toward more modern cartridges and their ballistics, and for good reason. But I was glad to see a couple of classics chosen as well with the .25-06 Remington and the .270 Winchester. Both are still great rounds, and I feel the same way about the older stuff like .30-06 as well. With modern components, it is NOT the same round that grandad used to shoot, and it's not even the same round it was only 10-15 years ago. Case in point: Ultimate Reloader did a recent video featuring .30-06 shooting 212 grain Hornady ELD-X bullets, and with 56.3 grains of Superformance powder it produced 1,627 ft.-lbs. and 1,859 fps at 600 yds. It also has literally IDENTICAL wind drift numbers right across the board as a 6.5 Creedmoor shooting 143 grain ELD-X, due to the 212 grain ELD-X's even higher BC of .663 (using Hornady's ballistics calculator). All this equals sure death to ANY elk shot at sane distances, while also delivering the power required for even longer distances than most people think the .30-06 is capable of. And yes, that 212gr Hornady ELD-X bullet is fully stabilized with the .30-06's stock 1:10" twist barrel. Same goes for the even larger 220gr ELD-X too. Good ol' .30-06 is more capable than its ever been and I think it's just going to take time for more people to realize this. IMO, it's as relevant now as its ever been. Same can be said for a lot of other older cartridges out there. Modern components are making them more relevant than ever. I guess what I mean is, if you have a .270 Winchester or a .30-06, you may want to keep it because modern bullets and powders are making them more viable options with even better ballistics and even more effective range. IMO, there is no wrong choice, whether that cartridge is new or old.
@mikefromoh2925
Жыл бұрын
I eastern hunt with shotgun slugs and will probably get a 350 legend eventually. These rounds are close range but do well going through brush. If I ever western hunt would probably go with a 30-06 or a 308, just seems appealing to be able to get ammo anywhere!
@billmelton181
Жыл бұрын
Really good video. I have a lot of the calibers you went through. I would take my 7mm rem mag given the chance to go out west on a big game hunt. It is very accurate with 160 gr gamekings suppressed. I would like to shoot a 7 prc sometime and feel the recoil difference.
@rodog504
Жыл бұрын
Merry Christmas. Happy to hear my 270 is a good all rounder. Still like my marlin 30-30 for deer in the South.
@wilfredsalacup7810
Жыл бұрын
Sir I don’t get tired watching and listening to your videos, I always enjoy listening and learning getting more ideas for knowledge that you are sharing with us viewers
@jakcrap
Жыл бұрын
Love your videos. I don’t understand how it’s ok for your kids to shoot a lighter caliber for game but as an adult it’s not ok for you too. I wouldn’t shoot a 6.5 on big game but it is interesting to me that most gun writers say… I would let a kid shoot big game with it but it’s not enough for me. He can shoot an elk at 12yrs old with it even though I wouldn’t ever shoot an elk with it, even though I’ve been hunting longer than he or she has been alive.
@gunner4373
Жыл бұрын
The 270wsm should have been included in the 270 category. It beats the other 2, even with lower BC bullets out to past 1000yds
@garnettwhite5523
Жыл бұрын
💯 agree on this.
@RIParker
Жыл бұрын
I’d go 22-250, 6mm creedmoor, 25-06, 6.5 creedmoor, 6.8 western, 7mm, rem mag, then 308 or 300 win mag depending on what I’m hunting and projectile @Backfire is one my favorite channels and I watch all the episodes. I agree on a lot of topics
@m444ss
Жыл бұрын
Seems like the 7mm-08 is a good option vs either of your .243 options. My first hunting rifle was a .243 Win. When my daughter wanted to hunt, 7mm-08 just seemed a better choice. ...of course, we weren't out West back then, so max range and a few inches difference in drop at 400 yds was immaterial.
@ericb.4358
14 күн бұрын
As I mentioned in your "Best Elk Hunting Cartridges" video I chose the 6.5 PRC, limiting myself to 400 yards for bulls, 500 yards for cow elk. I shoot a Browning X-Bolt Pro with a Bushnell Elite LRTS 4.5 - 18 x 44(discontinued) with G3 illuminated small Xmas tree reticle. With ballistics tapes inside my scope cap and using a Bushnell 10X I Mile ARC range finding binoculars it's a pretty good setup for Nevada's long distances.
@bixby9797
Жыл бұрын
One thing really driven home by the ammo shortage was the usefulness of cartridges that can be formed from others. 25/06, 30/06, 35 Whelen or 308, 243, 7mm08 and so on. Great channel. The only thing I will quibble on with your picks is availability and recoil. Once you get towards 20lb recoil you start to get flinching from most people. 30lbs in a light hunting rifle will beat you up. 6.8 Western brass: Lapua makes it I think and no one will say Lapua does not make good brass.
@danielmcshane6502
Жыл бұрын
These cartridge videos are so interesting. Well presented and easy to watch.
@zachp7603
Жыл бұрын
30-06... Do all, do everywhere and anytime. One round to rule them all.
@jonister1767
Жыл бұрын
Folks have been re-barreling 270 wsm with different twist rates to stabilize heavier bullets for years. 6.8 western is just a knockoff of this. With an optimized 270 wsm, you have availability of shelf ammo, wide selection of components, and overall more customization without sacrificing on sub par components offered by only one manufacturer.
@MiddleOutdoorsman
Жыл бұрын
I would love a flatter shooting cartridge, but availability and price is why I stick with .308. At the end of the day, those two considerations are fairly big ones. Especially in today's economy. Longer range shot's while hunting aren't it's strong suit, but up to 500ish yards, it'll definitely do the job. Given the ballistic drop, I think a 300 yard zero is essential.
@RT-gv6us
Жыл бұрын
Lot of good info here. A few comments: I would have gone with the 257 Weatherby over the 25-06. If I want to load my ammo to minimum pressures I can get my 257 Weatherby to shoot at 25-06 velocities, and still have the flexibility of shooting 250-300 fps faster if I load to max.
@packerjh2
Жыл бұрын
One does not put pump gas in a dragster!!
@jcarry5214
Жыл бұрын
Good idea, but having one or two more in the tank and using 20 grains less powder per shot have some considerable short and long term benefits. Never really compared numbers before though, that 200-300 fps adds a lot of flatness between 4 and 500y, wow. I'm honestly hoping we see a 25 PRC in a few years based off the 7mm case.
@RT-gv6us
Жыл бұрын
@@jcarry5214 I agree with pretty much all you said. Especially the idea of a 25 PRC. I love my 257 Weatherby. I got a GREAT deal on it and it has a fluted barrel with a cerakote finish and weighs 6 lbs 10oz, BUT, I purchased it before the 6.5 PRC came out. If I were choosing between the two today I would almost surely go with the 6.5 PRC over the 257 Weatherby and it breaks my heart to say that.
@jcarry5214
Жыл бұрын
@@RT-gv6us really? That's funny because now that the 134 ELD is out i want my next build to be a 25-06 8 twist carbon barrel. I built a 7 saum instead of a 6.5 prc because of the pills available at the time now I'd never look back. You probably have good reasons but my gut reaction is WHAT? Well, looking at the data I guess i can see it. The 6.5 is way more efficient. basically ties the weatherby with 120g and goes up to 150. I guess I can see that.
@chrisb9478
Жыл бұрын
.30-06 is hard to beat, for an all around.
@chublez
Жыл бұрын
I think the value in 7mm-08 is in the 308 brass laying around for reloaders. One more round that as you say is near the same as 6.5 in factory load with brass you can find all over and probably already have.
@jebbum1998
Жыл бұрын
Big difference between 6.5 140grain and 6mm 103 grain on game a good .264 bullets carries way more
@christophertate6453
Жыл бұрын
Like you, I have them all. Not crazy about the 6.5CM. Have to shoot more than one time on center-shoulder with 6.5CM. Never shot a deer with a 25-06, so can't say what it will do on deer. However, the 30-06 with 150gr or 180gr I've never lost a deer or hog. So, out of all the catridges I've taken deer with, hands down the 30-06 has never failed me.
@RollinsBrown
Жыл бұрын
I have virtually every common American-available center fire caliber. The 6.8 Western is a do-all. If I had to pick one for North America. And I head-shot a doe at 734 yds with Win factory ammo in a custom. So I’m a pretty big fan.
@gunner4373
Жыл бұрын
I'm looking for a 7mm-08 because I'm trying to do an ultralight Backcountry rig. I'll never shoot over 400yds and the Hornady 139gr (any variation) loaded hot or bought in the superformance ammo is wonderful and the recoil is perfect for a sub 7lb rifle/scope/sling combo.
@TXLorenzo
Жыл бұрын
I have a Tikka 7mm08 in a stainless ultra light. It is a great mountain rifle without breaking the bank. It also is a tack driver.
@muskyhunter47
Жыл бұрын
I shoot a 28 nosler but is heavey if your walking all day last year bought a Howa 1500 in 7mm-08 put a 4.5 x 14 Leopold on it sweet light little gun this summer I'll be working up a load for it
@TXLorenzo
Жыл бұрын
@@muskyhunter47 I think you will like shooting the 7mm-08, specially reloading for it. As you probably know, there are a lot of nice bullets out there for 7mm. I think a Barnes bullet in 120-140 would be a smasher.
@muskyhunter47
Жыл бұрын
@@TXLorenzo the barns ttsx in the 140 is where I'm going to start I just happened to see 3 boxes so I grabbed them right now primers and brass is what I need. I've never done it but I might have to pick up some .308 brass and neck it down
@TXLorenzo
Жыл бұрын
@@muskyhunter47 My first reloads were necked down 308 brass. Just make sure to have them lubed well before resizing. That's one of the good things about the 308 family, good for 7mm08, 243, 358 and of course 30 cal.
@Northernmormon
Жыл бұрын
If another company made brass for the 6.8 Western, I would have one already. Just as a side note, Christensen Arms now makes rifles chambered in 6.8 Western. I would love to see Savage release their 110 in 6.8 Western as well.
@jcarry5214
Жыл бұрын
That ought to work, the savage short action is about the same length as the win. Plus it woudl make more sense than running the trashy winchester ammo through a gun worth more than my car, nice as CA is.
@rodgerthackeray7978
Жыл бұрын
Love the design of the 7mm PRC. Waiting for Bergara to start chambering for it, then I will probably pick up two.
@nickb8618
Жыл бұрын
Check out the numbers and compare it to the 7mm wsm only thing going for the prc is ability to shoot bigger than 175gr other than that they are carbon copies of each other. Been shooting the wizzum for 20 yrs with the positives prc guys are just figuring out
@rodgerthackeray7978
Жыл бұрын
@Nick B 7mm WSM is good. It's just nearly impossible to find brass or even factory ammo. 7mm PRC will be more available once it gets going. Plus, I want to shoot the heavier bullets, so the 7mm WSM is out. I already have a custom chambered 7 SAUM, but I want something more standard for my boys to have when they grow up.
@enrique7240
Жыл бұрын
When you think they’re going to make it happen?..I want one so badly
@rodgerthackeray7978
Жыл бұрын
@@enrique7240 I'm not sure. I'm hoping they will announce it for their 2023 catalog. 🤞
@ryanpeine759
Жыл бұрын
If you're watching, Mr. Nosler or Mr. Lapua, yes please - brass for the 6.8 Western! I've had the same issues reloading. Had the work the brass a LOT to get it to work.
@linsy1971
Жыл бұрын
Until there are a few thousand more rifles sold, it’s not financially feasible for them to retool.
@mattpastell3728
Жыл бұрын
Having only one ammunition provider seems to be the death knell for the 6.8 Western. I’ve been using my .270 win since 1982 and it has proved effective on elk, deer, antelope and exotic game. Before I realized I could only afford one rifle, I wanted 2 rifles a .243 and a 7mm REM Mag. Now I’m thinking of a 6mm Creedmoor and a 7mm PRC. But I’m 68 and my last elk took me 3 days to pack out all the meat. So my solo elk hunting days are getting limited, so I want a caliber that is suitable for most lower 48 states game so I’m choosing the 6.5 PRC. Maybe it’s time to try a guided elk hunt, a horse can pack out more meat than I can even with a pack frame!
@guns4funfreedomkeeper999
4 ай бұрын
I have to agree Jimbo. That 6.8 Western should have changed the world but the 6 nickels got the publicity. Had the 6.8 had half the support, we would all have them in the safe. Meanwhile, everyone we know has a 6five. In 2019 I was at the rifle range with my first 6five. I had no idea how popular it had gotten. Everyone on the 100 yard range except one outcast with a 308 that day was shooting 6.5 Creedmore. It has since subsided but the 6.5Cm gained immediate attention during that time. I think it had a lot to do with ammunition availability. It was by no means a superior chambering. It was just available. Both in ammunition and rifles. It was fun for a minute but I haven’t touched one since that year. I am liking my 6.5 PRC still.
@GLOCKCOPG23
Жыл бұрын
Ok, before I even watch, I’m going 7-08 to 7mm Rem magnum. The 7’s hit harder than they should and shoot really flat. Just my best guess for “reaching out there”. Ok, let’s see how this pans out….All that said I’m an 06 guy. It does a lot sooooo well for 95% of all hunting.
@ricktaylor3748
Жыл бұрын
Best backwood cartridge. The .300 Win mag. It drops ANY game from point blank to 1200 yards. Next best, the .280 Ackley improved, it's perfect for most game, and accurate.
@Rakkasan-vr8xt
Жыл бұрын
That’s kinda what I’m thinking too. I have a couple 30/06 and .308’s but I have never had anything dangerous (game wise) get back up after a well placed .300 WM 190gn.
@wadeparker6091
Жыл бұрын
Neither have enough energy at ranges past 500yrds.
@Nic-ho1rq
Жыл бұрын
Great video per usual Jim! I am really hoping to see the Springfield waypoint in 7 PRC soon, that will be my dream rifle.
@backfire
Жыл бұрын
Thank you! Waypoint in 7 PRC would be awesome.
@fpvflightairborne2168
Жыл бұрын
Christianson arms is the ticket
@Nic-ho1rq
Жыл бұрын
@@fpvflightairborne2168 I almost bought a ridgeline but I am glad I didn't. I have heard way too many bad things from Christensen owners to buy one.
@fpvflightairborne2168
Жыл бұрын
@@Nic-ho1rq I got the mpr and just luckily picked up 100 rounds of eldx 7 prc. We will see. I should knock out a review on it. It seems like a good gun. Put together well, lightweight, and handy. We will see if my hard earned dollars were put to use.
@Nic-ho1rq
Жыл бұрын
@@fpvflightairborne2168 very cool. That MPR is a sexy looking rifle! Look forward to watching your review video of it.
@dominicbenecasa7893
Жыл бұрын
When I traveled regularly through SD and WY multiple gun shop owners told me a .270 is it. That was in the late 80’s. I have hunted with one ever since haven’t ever gotten out west but maybe will one day.
@DP69264
10 ай бұрын
Talking about the 30-06 not being chambered on shelves I have noticed that as well. I feel like the market has been so muddied with a ton of different cartridges that have such minimal differences the average joe, like myself, will never even need or notice. I love the 06 because of availability. You can get damn good loads anywhere really.
@mil-collector_enby2250
Жыл бұрын
Keep .220 swift alive and popular because you can reform it into 6.5 Japanese, expand the neck with a 6mm and then a 6.5mm neck expander, the full length size with 8mm lebel, then full length size with 6.5 Carcano and finally full length size with 6.5 Japanese, trim to length and ream the neck if you feel like
@aronschrep
Жыл бұрын
I totally agree with the comment on the 6.8 Wester. That it is the best designed cartridge for backcountry western shooting. I have been reloading rounds for the 6.8 westers that we own. We have a few and going to be getting a few more. I live and hunt in Alaska with 4 kids that go out hunting with me. We always have other calibers when we are out hunting. I understand the brass comments and ammo off the shelf limited selection.
@skys-the-limit
Жыл бұрын
Any chance you've hit a swamp donkey with it yet? I'm curious how it would do. Reasonable expected range you are shooting it out here?
@conklinoutdoors
Жыл бұрын
I personally shoot 7mm-08 and have taken 4 elk, 2 deer, 1 oryx, and 4 antelope with it. I do agree that It doesn't really bring anything extra to the table but it is a capable round. We put a muzzle break and nice scope on it. The recoil with the break is unreal. I do get that it is a little light on powder though.
@bodynfocus
Жыл бұрын
Love these comparisons. Thanks for the hard work. Great information.
@Adam-vj4uz
Жыл бұрын
Christensen arms is now making rifles clambered in 6.8 Western.
@natekidwell5233
Жыл бұрын
The 243 is super crazy when you load it with the same weight and bc bullets as 6 creed using a 105gr rdf bullet from nosler, and using the exact same powder you only gain about 25-30 fps in favor of the 6 creed. And if you go based on the fastest powder of each cartridge you have a max of 3043fps with the 6 creed and 3044fps with the 243. Pretty crazy stuff, no hate on the 6 creed it’s a super cool round just worth the mention that you can do the same stuff with a 243
@kollinhomer3019
Жыл бұрын
Hornady if your watching, A .270 caliber re-design would be great to be in comparison to the 6.8 western. im a 270 fan, there's just a lack of heavy bullets from hornady along with rifle design that no one has redesigned
@texasviking1
Жыл бұрын
I have an older howa chambered in 270 and it’s a very accurate shooter. Now of course I’ve only shot the 130g but it seems to really like that weight.
@Freezer003
Жыл бұрын
Agreed!!! I love the design of the 6.8 but I think it's already doomed to be a niche cartridge. Only two companies making ammo, and rifles are hard to find. Hornady needs a 6.8 PRC with a new 165 grain eld-x bullet.
@brandonsimon2804
Жыл бұрын
Man I’m happy to hear you say that!!! Just bought a gunwerks magnus in 7prc and sure am excited to shoot next week!!!! Great vid as always!!!!
@Outdoor_Everyday
Жыл бұрын
I think you missed the mark on the 25 cal, I personally would prefer a 257 Weatherby Mag. in most situations over a 25-06. That being said, it would be neat if you did a comparison between the two, maybe even throw in the 257 roberts?
@ronaldroehrick4872
Жыл бұрын
3006 the most versatile cartridge solves the problem.
@ronaldroehrick4872
Жыл бұрын
@@ronlowney4700 If the quarry is only deer I agree but remember I said most versatile. .
@Catboy-hr2qp
Жыл бұрын
Would be real cool if you did a version of this video but for AR15/AR10 Cartridges I know not everyone hunts with those platforms but I feel alot more comfortable knowing I have another round on tap without having to do anything if I see that animal not going down after the first shot
@jameslyman2230
Жыл бұрын
You did not look at how the 243 can shoot bullets that are much lighter as well. Great for varmints and yotes
@glockky1
Жыл бұрын
You forgot the 270 WSM which smokes the other .277 cartridges and even hangs with the 7mm options
@stephenrapalyea8475
Жыл бұрын
The .257 Roberts is really sweet. Barnes makes up to 115grn and Nosler makes a 120grn partition.
@jasonbellamy8751
Жыл бұрын
I know it’s a dying dog but 264 win mag would be my choice for western hunting. I love mine
@nameshavebeenchangedtoprot2127
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Great info sir, a great and thorough presentation as always. While I would love to go buy the latest and greatest, that option is not avaiable for me. My newest rifle, a 6.5 CM in a Ruger American, with my homebuilt (Form 1) can on it =no freakin' recoil , it puts all three rounds in a dime sized hole at 100 yards. My other sweetheart is a CZ Model 98 mauser in 7X57, it is a dream to shoot and with my reloads I would have no concern with taking elk sized game out to about 300 yards, if the chance ever arose. But then again here in the South, not any real distance shooting. Your knowledge and experience allow me to live vicariously through you. I very much appreciate all you do to make this a viewing pleasure, keep up the great work!
@steveschott645
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I agree with you on your choice of the 7mm PRC, but as an older guy that has store bought shoulders, I have settled on the 280 AI. I am a handloader and i get 7mm Rem Mag velocities in my 280 AI. I have a muzzle brake and a recoil pad. Combined, they reduce recoil to a 243 or 6mm Rem. I also have a 300 Rem SAUM which has served me well for 20 years. My handloads equal the 300 Win Mag or close to it. Never had an elk get away from me with either my 300 Saum or 280 Ai. Always love your videos. Keep up the good work!
@TheWarriorsMind
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I like a AR so the 6mm ARC would do. But, in a long action bolt action, the 270/30-06 combo is all you need. In short action, I would get a 6.8 western. I love mine. It is a custom built Remington 700.
@lyndonhamby7432
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All around. .270 always hard to beat. Drops deer like a champ
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