I've used bumper cam for as long as I can remember in racing games and I've been gaming for years. It gives the best sense of speed imho. I've never been able to get to grips with chase cam, it feels disconnected in some way and similar to when I try to play a FPS without the mouse being inverted, all over the place lol
@GK_Squid
10 ай бұрын
I'm a hood view boi. I wouldn't mind a "bumper raised" camera to see more than level road and no obstructions
@spawnofapathy
10 ай бұрын
On controller I prefer and am faster with hood cam. I also really like the sense of speed. With a wheel I prefer the driver camera, the cockpit view without the wheel on screen. I don’t like normal cockpit view because I find the wheel moving distracting and the shifting animations with an H shifter, especial in Forza are so bad and distracting. I also like the immersion of being able to use the actual dials and dash board readouts. I could be more precise with a chase cam, because you can see the full car, it doesn’t feel as fast so you have a sense of more time to react or move, and so as a result you can better place the car and avoid collisions. I just don’t find it as fun.
@kamielbuize4048
10 ай бұрын
THIRD PERSON driving doesn't deserve "The real driving simulator", i would like to see how all those champions are doing in cockpit.
@Mikado_Fire
4 ай бұрын
From out my view, there is not such a big diff in views if you are not dog water in the game. 3ps 4 a better situational awareness and 1ps is better 4 the car behavior understanding.
@mattmanley7118
10 ай бұрын
Honestly it’s weird I spend so much time in cockpit view in recent years now that it’s the only way I can tell what the car is doing. If I try third person camera up close or far away it feels so weird and I can’t drive😅 Yes this is on controller . Proximity arrows need an upgrade .
@Mika-dw7gl
10 ай бұрын
I switched to cockpit view in fh5 to feel a bit more "simulation", it's the only way i can drive now too xD Agree for the arrows.
@mattdack2225
8 ай бұрын
Me too any other view seems alien and just not right
@zlatyled154
5 ай бұрын
Same.. I’m a die hard cockpit driver… put me in 3rd and I’ll drive like I don’t have a license
@cloosat
10 ай бұрын
Play it how you want, who cares.
@wwjnz9263
10 ай бұрын
Best answer!
@frenchcroissant2699
10 ай бұрын
That’s basically his point lol
@Boxingfan378
10 ай бұрын
Uninstalled after week one such a disappointing game
@Boxingfan378
10 ай бұрын
@@XAV-117 Do you play on controller or steering wheel?
@MONAHAN97
10 ай бұрын
Try it again now. I stopped playing for a while, but hopped on last weekend and have had mostly fun clean racing with no bugs. I play on wheel
@Tomas-cn1lv
10 ай бұрын
For me a bonnet view is far more natural than a cockpit view, because I perceive a screen like a windshield. I must say I don't have a big triple screen setup, just a single screen, so it may be different, but when I started with sim racing and was tricked to use a cockpit view, the vision was very limited for me. After few months I gave up, because the cockpit view had no benefits, only restraints. I realized I have my "cockpit" right before my screen, so there is no point in having more limited view than it already is by size of my screen.
@GalacticAstroparticles
9 ай бұрын
Chase camera in racing games = 3rd person view in stealth and shooting games. Yes, it is not "realistic", but it gives the advantage of immediate feedback of the player's/car's surroundings and limits. In the same way you may use the 3rd person view in stealth games or shooters to look around angles you can't see in 1st person view (in order to avoid detection or to see the enemy before they are in your player's line of sight), you can use the chase camera in racing games in order to get a view of your immediate surroundings, track limits, distance to other cars etc.
@zimek2377
10 ай бұрын
@kireth try a cockpit view with camera drift option, it’s interesting you can better judge the car rotation this way and notice it easily, maybe not the fastest because of the vision but fun to play
@davidsalsberry5748
10 ай бұрын
I’ve always used cockpit or hood cam but this forza has forced me to go 3rd person so that I can actually know when opponents are near me
@drecoracing
7 ай бұрын
100% me aswell. This game needs a radar
@craigyboy4770
6 ай бұрын
Same I always used cockpit but this game has forced me to use bumper cam so I can get the virtual rear view mirror
@Dzasmina2304
10 ай бұрын
Predicting a battle in the comments section between cockpit and 3rd person view drivers 🫡
@benloooo
10 ай бұрын
Cockpit without the wheel ist the best for me
@veganguy74
10 ай бұрын
My biggest problem with Chase cam is the car is not locked to the camera, the car moves somewhat independently of the camera, and that’s rather disorienting to me. I prefer hood ( bonnet ) cam.
@LUNATIC75
10 ай бұрын
Third person is just weird and feels very vague, while cockpit seems to be a claustrophobic nightmare. I want to play bonnet view, which feels more true to real life driving, but the reflections on the bodywork distract me all the time! So I end up playing bumper cam, which is too low and does cause vision issues when sniffing my opponents rear bumper...
@WhiteCranK
10 ай бұрын
yes and even when you paint your car dull, they're still like in a polished mirror... it really is distracting sometimes.
@Indreju
10 ай бұрын
I've tried to adjust to chase view just because I know it's powerful, but I am at least 5% faster in bonnet every time.
@YurtleTheTurtle99
10 ай бұрын
The one thing Project Cars did well was the helmet cam that would turn towards the apex on turns
@WhiteCranK
10 ай бұрын
Just adjust your drift camera in the settings from Motorsport, it'll do the same trick.
@markuschief4472
10 ай бұрын
The sense of speed, the way cars turn, the camera, everything feels more realistic in Forza Motorsport and it's so enjoyable. Normally i use the chasecam because I love to see the car and the liveries. I enjoy your livestreams. Keep it up!
@christophstrasser9884
10 ай бұрын
How can it be that they do esport contests, call themselves the best of the best and use the 3rd pers. cam. I mean it should be restricted to the cockpit cam, otherwise its not like driving in a simulator imo.
@Proktitis
5 ай бұрын
Hi on my wheels so I can enjoy playing in cockpit or bumper cam. No one is playing a game to enjoy it with the wheel using third person camera. People who do that are willing to cheat at anything they do. It takes the fun out.
@Kaylos29
10 ай бұрын
I'd be curious how you managed to get chase cam to not shift so far out. Because that is the problem I have with it. I'd still use cockpit cam mostly, but chase cam would be useful if the camera didn't shift out so far. Cockpit works really well on forza with triple screens and nividia surround. You get a wider view of what is around you, usuable rear view mirror, and can tell where the car is to maximize track limits. There is some warping on the edges of the side monitors since it's not baked in with screen angle, but it still works very well. I'm setting pretty close to the Forza Pro times in the spec hoppers using cockpit. None of the views outside of chase though give you an understanding of where cars are in your blind spots and pox arrows don't work.
@TheGreatTomDix
10 ай бұрын
I learn a lot by switching views! The cockpit views give you a lot of feedback with the wheel movement and such! 3rd person is the most informative about what is happening with your line and other racers! Im on a controller and cockpit view is so fun that it’s where I spend the most time!
@old-simracing-rookie
10 ай бұрын
i drive with controller and for me bonnet cam is the one for me as a beginner. i‘m driving cars in real life since 20 years and just started to play race games.. forza motorsport is the first game and after using all cams for few hours i prefer bonnet cam def. So real talk here :) good video! cheers! subed to channel!
@michaeljohnson8688
10 ай бұрын
I do best with the hood (bonnet) view.. My 2nd favorite is 3rd person.. When I'm not lazy I'll put the PSVR2 on ...
@alleksfc1167
10 ай бұрын
I always play on cockpit or hood camera in other titles but in this game you are at clearly disadvantage playing with these, you have less visibility of the track compared to those who plays in third person and the game doesn't have a radar system or a spotter to tell you if you have drivers on your sides or near you, when the inside/outside its clear etc. you always have to be looking at your surroundings so you can't stay focused on the track, the proximity arrows don't work properly either so they are useless. That's why I would never consider Forza Motorsport as an simcade title when controller players have a clear advantage over steering wheel users, all the pros of this game plays in third person and with an controller... In Gran Turismo there's no way you're going to see a professional with a controller.
@XNY_Music
10 ай бұрын
Gone from Cockpit cam to Bonnet cam and it is so much more precise and faster
@Q50BeastTv
10 ай бұрын
Great Video. I am going to give bonnet camera to see if my times improve.
@LeeJPryer
5 ай бұрын
There should be an option to make the VR in 3D, if game developers added this we could experience the distance between the cars
@robinsonsadventures2174
6 ай бұрын
They need to have different view leader boards for racing to make it more fair for everyone
@kijekuyo9494
10 ай бұрын
With a wheel, I definitely use hood cam. I turn better, more precisely I correct better. The main negatives are that I can't see as far forward as chase, and my vision is easily blocked by other cars, dust, and smoke. I also use hood cam in FH5 because I seem to have better control of a loose car. On controller (what I mostly use in FM8), I play with chase, mainly to know what's around me, and be more aware of what's ahead. I don't like any of the cockpit views.
@dirtbagliberalsnake5729
10 ай бұрын
Cockpit no steering wheel view?
@tylery7881
10 ай бұрын
One of the main reasons I primarily use 3rd person chase camera is better awareness
@baldinbergamo
10 ай бұрын
I use bonnet cam, I would prefer 3rd person but I find the way the car moves to be a bit ugly and unrealistic. I'll try and edit the settings for 3rd person and see if I can make it better as you have suggested.
@Kireth
10 ай бұрын
Yo thanks for the follow!!
@baldinbergamo
10 ай бұрын
@@Kireth your welcome, I am quite new to your channel but I am enjoying the racing. Keep up the good work!
@llph0enXll
10 ай бұрын
I was always racing in cockpit view when playing with a wheel. Preferrably without steering wheel shown ingame. Until some years ago, I was always playing with the wrong FOV. I wanted to "see" the speed which was absolutely wrong. I couldn't hit apex's right always had to correct. Fellow racing friends explained to me how to set the FOV right. It might not be the fastets looking but gives you a sense for the size of the car. Best is to use FOV calculators. The FOV should be set like this: "The screen is a window into the virtual world. So the FOV depends on screen size and distance to the screen. Imagine sitting in the car and having the screen in front of you like it is when you are racing." Sure might not look the fastest, because you miss out on that peripheral view, and it looks like it is zoomed in, but when you get the hang of it you can tell where the wheels of the car are and for me I got instantly better. This was years ago in Assetto Corsa. So for me in Forza I think it is something like 25 or so. Somethin all the way to the left. 1Sure, playing wih an ultrawide or a triple screen setup fixes the peripheral view, but still for me its the best camera angle to have a feel for the size of it.
@Amplar2
3 ай бұрын
I would prefer a roof camera, like older GT titles.
@RyanM-gc4og
9 ай бұрын
how do you adjust the sway of chase cam, super exaggerated oversteer on some cars?
@campbullard
9 ай бұрын
This is what I'm wondering. All I see is fov options
@JetJuice
10 ай бұрын
Hood cam has a rear view mirror to me that makes it to where I don't have to look back
@Flashms
10 ай бұрын
I prefer the bonnet (hood) view, As i use a wheel, I find it far better. Not a fan of interior view. SO much of your vision is blocked
@scotlandmcturk659
10 ай бұрын
hood view is my go to. Chase cam is cartoonist.
@Ghanja007
10 ай бұрын
4K triple screen, driver cam, fov at around 30. Looks closest to what a sim should look like, with the added benefit of having the rear view/side mirrors.
@WhiteCranK
10 ай бұрын
4090 sli ?
@Ghanja007
10 ай бұрын
@@WhiteCranK just 4090. Everything Ultra, 60fps lock, no ray tracing. Dlaa (quality). Gpu utilization sits around 70-90%
@WhiteCranK
10 ай бұрын
So you literally playing at a resolution from 11'520x2160p ? Does the game even support that? Or is it just more blurry than single screen 4k? @@Ghanja007
@ambientsounds1416
9 ай бұрын
Bonnet car is the most realistic cockpit is dumb because its like driving from back seat.
@WarrenF
10 ай бұрын
I’m fastest with bonnet cam but always start the race in 3rd person so I don’t get wiped out at turn 1
@Boostlagg
10 ай бұрын
whats the point of playing a sim when you play it like a video game. Cockpit view would work better if your helmet turned to look at the turn like in real life.
@llph0enXll
10 ай бұрын
True. There'S a reason why FOV calculators exist (Screen diameter, screen distance, etc) And also yes. Like it was in I think NFS Shift 2? There you could set that the helmet view looks at the apex of the turn. I do not know why not every (sim'ish) racing game has this setting.
@TimmyLittle-hy5mb
10 ай бұрын
Sims are video games
@llph0enXll
10 ай бұрын
@@TimmyLittle-hy5mb Also true. And don't get me wrong. Everybody should play like he/she wants. I wouldn't blame anyone for that. I think what Boostlagg meant was, why playing a Sim (with Sim gear Not to ferget) like an Arcade racer. Also in my opinion if I play a sim, I want to simulate. But still: everybody like he/she wants ;)
@sttrsp9700
10 ай бұрын
i wish forza had the option to raise the camera higher like roof camera in GT
@dvont1383
26 күн бұрын
my dilemma is that I like the 1st person for immersion and 'realsim' but I know I'm faster in 3rd person. I can't decide and keep switchig around...help...
@Speedyey
10 ай бұрын
Chase cam and far chase cam is just horrifyingly bad with a steering wheel... it feels like all the inputs just goes away, for me it was the close cockpit wiew for a period, just cuz i drive with a steering wheel, now i changed some FOV settings and i cant drive in any other cam than the drivers eye cam, where u see the steering wheel and arms of the ingame driver, i feel alot faster and alot more precise with this angle. but 3rd person with a steering wheel is just impossible
@ronnywolf1ify
10 ай бұрын
Iracing nailed the view 👌
@Mickice
10 ай бұрын
Bumper cam on Forza is too low.
@rod2dodge855
9 ай бұрын
None of them mean anything unless FOV is correctly setup, screen size, distance to monitor
@Franny_NJ
10 ай бұрын
Bumper cam, I did cockpit for awhile but I'm better in bumper
@gsprings43
10 ай бұрын
3rd person is a advantage for sure
@mark_lhr3
10 ай бұрын
Anyone on a wheel driving third person …well, words fail me.
@Mikado_Fire
4 ай бұрын
Mr. Bean view on top 🔥
@gokublack4211
10 ай бұрын
I tried 3rd person view, and it THE WORSEEEE, Definitely 1st person view is the way
@SSRT_JubyDuby8742
10 ай бұрын
Always bonnet Like deployed 👍
@andyvecchiarelli2998
10 ай бұрын
should only be 2 angels in car and bumber
@Rezar_racing
10 ай бұрын
Cockpit view only🎉
@CatTrashRacing
10 ай бұрын
The best camera is the one that works best for you
@alvimotorsport
5 ай бұрын
I have NO RESPECT for anyone who uses any point of view other than INSIDE the cockpit. Why so much realism in graphics and physics if you behave like a child with a silly toy?
@wernergolombick1553
10 ай бұрын
Still waiting for GT7 on PC ! ... wish the day would be here already _ Forza on PC is a 2 / 10 for me. Poorly optimized, lackluster graphics and driving dynamics, poor AI drivers, bad settings and in general would not see it as a simulator in any measure, more like a need for speed!
@sbp6326
10 ай бұрын
Turn10 in this game fail ALSO the cameras....what a disaster
@rodgerhunter1591
10 ай бұрын
Sorry bro I don't care cockpit all the way of course you can see better in 3rd I guess you bowl with the bumper guards on the lane like a child
@thomasb4002
8 ай бұрын
You put out alot of videos with the exact same content in the brz. Maybe try and play it and tune the car. Not 1 video shows your driver level and rank because you dont even play this. All content is 3 months old......... maybe 1 race after an update. We see you.
@mouradmou4546
10 ай бұрын
Man, this dude can't last 2 minutes without saying something about driving the car or the track in real life! Come on man, if Hamilton made videos he won't say it as much as you.
@-_-Manic_Rob-_-
10 ай бұрын
😂
@DSMillwright
10 ай бұрын
Hood
@IIMANIXII
10 ай бұрын
3rd person is faster for me - if I switch to 1st I notice that im slower - it’s because of brake distance, that’s where the measurable difference is happening 🫡
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