i've been over 10 years+ out of the paintball world...thinking of making a comeback and glad to see my favorite shop is still at it!!
@alexanderperez6243
5 жыл бұрын
Pops asa is the best in the game....
@pinoykayaker
4 жыл бұрын
Love the debate and the choices out there. There is no wrong choice, only preference. Reliability is no longer just for PE as these guns have improved at this point in time. Shot quality is almost the same and loudness vary only by a few decibels. Most of us can't afford to own all so we have no choice but to love what we have. The true unbiased comments are those who have owned all of these guns and have ranked them objectively. In the end its the player who determines how good he plays and not the gun he uses.
@stevenschafer6047
5 жыл бұрын
Great vid guys. Been searching for one like this for a few weeks now. I’m getting back into the sport after 10 years and it’s been hard catching up on all the changes. I always used to shoot smart parts being from Pittsburgh but I think this time around I want to give Dye products a go and get the m3+. I wish PE would have stuck with the open bolt design “not for any reason other than just something different of a look”.
@__Ryan_
2 жыл бұрын
Same, it’s been like 20 years for me 😆 I used Spyders back in the day and the shocker and WDP angel were the top dogs
@gwpb1286
5 жыл бұрын
I’m biased to LUXE X because I have one spent 1950 including tax worth it though
@JLMtime
3 жыл бұрын
out of all the brands empire/PE/shocker/luxe what markers do you guys get the least in the shop for repair?
@VS-TheWorld
4 жыл бұрын
Like splitting hairs.... so hard to pick for me.... in the end i went with the LUXE X. i already have the 170r. And i already have the m2. Plus i really like the tooless disable thing and it talks!!
@alexturnqest6202
5 жыл бұрын
Lol wow by post malone comes on and I thought I had accidentally clicked on a music video.😂
@PunishersPaintball
5 жыл бұрын
alex turnqest trying to make it fun! ☠️
@SuperFrazle
5 жыл бұрын
Great video, been waiting for one like it for a while now.
@WillisWoods
5 жыл бұрын
Great overview of the guns. The bolt weight and the operating pressure are not real indicators on how smooth the gun will actually be, but I appreciated the detailed analysis regardless. Guns like the older Luxe's for example have a lot more bolt mass but are actually smoother due to the balanced spool design. They also run a fairly high operating pressure compared to these guns.
@user-pf2hv8qw1s
4 жыл бұрын
My understanding is that with high end markers the group shot size is not a consideration for comparison. Most good markers shoot about the same. In any case you can always match barrel to paint for accuracy. So next is what you can live with. I like the bolt system of the M3+ so I would probably go with that. Most likely I would swap out the barrel for another. Maybe I did not hear, but it did not sound like any of these markers had a LPR in them. The hoppers were also not discussed. Otherwise nice review.
@gtifury310
3 жыл бұрын
The AMP wasn't concieved yet, but air conservation will go to it now :)
@JStevensdk7
5 жыл бұрын
Nah, AA over rechargeable
@ericthepaintballguy
4 жыл бұрын
Jstevensdk7 no way. Waste of money having to buy batteries.
@tophawg
4 жыл бұрын
ericthepaintballguy rechargeable batteries. That way you can use universal rechargeable AA. Then you always have the option of carrying spare non rechargeable batteries in emergency situations
@ericthepaintballguy
4 жыл бұрын
Jose Cortez still buying something extra that’s already provided.
@stogie0608
4 жыл бұрын
ericthepaintballguy i have a CS2 and still using the same pair of energizer lithium’s for what will be almost a year. It doesn’t eat up batteries like you might think. I play 3-2 times a month tho, so that’s that.
@k3mikal
4 жыл бұрын
@@ericthepaintballguy if you are able to spend over 1k on a gun, I dont think yout need to worry about changing $3 batteries a couple times a season.
@DarkRendition
4 жыл бұрын
A+ review!!!!!!!!!
@chaseschannel1151
4 жыл бұрын
Listen. I am a know it all and I have an opinion on this matter so it is going to be the deciding factor. Luxe X with the new core is the best followed by the CS2 then the whatever it’s called.
@desantiswayoflifezachdesan9449
5 жыл бұрын
Man, I feel like this is so biased. Either way, great job with the video. Cs2 just didn’t get enough love for being more bulletproof then both of the other markers. There is a reason planet dominates the game in sales.
@PunishersPaintball
5 жыл бұрын
Desantiswayoflife Zach DeSantis fair argument Zach! We really had a hard time choosing a definitive winner as all 3 were great guns. The Cs2 is extremely reliable and see where you’re coming from with that!
@desantiswayoflifezachdesan9449
5 жыл бұрын
Regardless you guys rock thanks for the quality content.
@WillisWoods
5 жыл бұрын
That is because of the strides the other two companies have made in robustness with these designs. Eclipse can't really make the claim of being more reliable anymore from a design perspective (although their track record is certainly the strongest). The X uses a direct rip-off of the Gamma Core design and the M3+ was designed by a co-engineer behind the Gamma Core. They are all super reliable and forgiving.
@desantiswayoflifezachdesan9449
5 жыл бұрын
WillisWoods I would totally agree, and with the luxe X I do. But ive seen 2 m3+ go down. And the fact that they had to revise their m3s to me is just kind of off puting. I REALLY like how dye markers shoot post 2014 and the ethos are crazy but I’m not going pay 1000+ on a marker that is questionable in any sense of the word. The luxe X is rock solid in my book you got me there. I’m really not biased I shoot a VCOM as a backup to my cs2. I get where you’re coming from. But the long history of nothing but solidified performance and robust builds by planet was not given the correct emphasis in this vid. (in my opinion) either way, these are all great guns. Maybe I’m just being hyper sensitive. I think the fact that the CS2 release was earlier then the others was a big deciding factor. If it was the new hotness, this video to me would have went differently.
@stevenbach744
5 жыл бұрын
And I still wouldn’t buy any of them. I love the air efficiency of my G6Rs or the ball on ball accuracy of my autocockers. Guess my personal preference is stacked tube or anything that doesn’t looks like a spool valve.
@jeruncan
5 жыл бұрын
Great informative non biased video
@PunishersPaintball
5 жыл бұрын
jeruncan thank you! ☠️
@matwey967
3 жыл бұрын
Best Gun was not released at that time, i like my new Geo 4 over all those three, witch all testet and played
@customav
5 жыл бұрын
Can we get someone w some technical knowledge doing one of these reviews. This was less info that I’d get from a cut sheet. 😴
@pbramen8582
4 жыл бұрын
"3rd but not last" hahaha . 3:46
@doublemeatjesus
5 жыл бұрын
cs2>x and m3+ any day of the week imho...next time take the guns to an open area, sounds like an awful lot of echo from the walls behind the camera
@steelmilkjug
5 жыл бұрын
Why do you prefer the CS2 over the other 2?
@vamp9190
5 жыл бұрын
Wow, can you say PE haters, lol. For a moment I thought this was Billy W. making the vid.
@k3mikal
4 жыл бұрын
If you look at Punishers relationship with SmartParts all the way back since the beginning, you'll know why
@hondo9558
3 жыл бұрын
He seems so happy to be here😂
@carlowens2193
5 жыл бұрын
After owning all 3 and playing at least two months with each of these. It goes like this...1. Luxe X 2. Dye m3+ 3. PE CS2. Luxe 1st the shot quality, soft, good efficiency, ergonomics. XL barrel M3+ best of the ergonomics and feels good holding, efficiency is on par with the x. Dye barrels need improvement. Cs2 takes last. Sorry Gama core ... gama core pro... stop lying PE. Clunky.. feels generic and plasticky. Good efficiency, carbon barrel that dosen't really work. Stolen dye adjustable trigger.
@The_Sloth_Man
5 жыл бұрын
Not disregarding your opinion, but why say cs2 stole the m3 adjustable trigger(it didnt) but not mention dye completely ripping off the planet eclipse pops asa?
@kylewinland3218
5 жыл бұрын
I'm ok with your opinion but, I have to disagree with the Dye M3+ being better than the CS2. 1.Ergonomics is personal preference, most people I play with prefer the CS2 ergonomics, so do I. 2. The Gama Core Pro also has better efficiency than the M3+ (both gun have almost equal efficiency though). 3. I also view the Gama Core as a high level core that Planet Eclipse put in their Mid-Tier guns because they want to give the best to their customers, and that why I don't care about them using basically the same core in the CS2.
@BR-zt9no
5 жыл бұрын
@@The_Sloth_Man yeah, no. The engineer who designed the M3 core previously worked for PE and had designed the gamma core. This man owns the patent for the slap asa. Dye was running the reach trigger setup before PE. That was a true borrow there, but honestly who gives a shit?
@ninjazzrhythm400
4 жыл бұрын
@@BR-zt9no i thought dangerouspower holds the patent on adjustable triggers?
@ericthepaintballguy
4 жыл бұрын
Kyle Winland this vid just showed the M3+ was more efficient, by far
@RetroTheory_Garage
4 жыл бұрын
Think the CS2 is a bit quieter
@Keithboyd96
2 жыл бұрын
More of a tippman 98 guy
@chaseschannel1151
4 жыл бұрын
Did he say “chr-ah-no”? ... *shudder .. it’s CHR-O-NO
@ravenstylea2
3 жыл бұрын
Now you gotta add the new Shocker AMP to the mix
@noahmoser1250
3 жыл бұрын
Na that’s not hi end contenders price point
@denverpurgepaintball7147
4 жыл бұрын
cs2 🤘🏻
@ChepeCon
5 жыл бұрын
What about the reliability on battery life of M3+ and X? as we all know from other devices ( tablets, phones etc) sooner or later their battery life will end and you will be left with a gun that lasts 1 hour and will have to go with the hassle of replacing the battery if that is even possible?( i have no idea) AA batteries are a reliable way to stay away from this inevitable problem that sooner or later will happen imo. Thoughts?
@BR-zt9no
5 жыл бұрын
I can't speak for the X, but for the M3 I always keep a USB charge pack with me so I can do a quick charge, but I've never used it. 24k shots took it down to 40% from a full charge, but that's the farthest Ive pushed it. The batteries are $29 and readily available, same as the previous gen M2. Buy yourself a new one every 3-4 years or so and sleep like a baby.
@jahlo2287
3 жыл бұрын
Cs2 is a work horse outdoors speedball just very reliable
@gafeepat
5 жыл бұрын
I stopped watching when he said “Budden” instead of “Button”. Haha I’m just kidding. But for serious, I want more information. No hate on this guy but I could easily just pull up the specs on all these markers and read everything he decided to talk about.
@dand2440
5 жыл бұрын
Hands down PE takes the cake. Most reliable manufacturer on the market. Proven reliability for YEARS. Dye makes a great gun but not a nice feel for a big hand also the electronics are finicky. Dont have experience with the LUX but I've always thought them to be too Blingy! Just my thoughts! Oh and dont forget that it's never hard to find a tech who can work on a PE in the rare chance you need it.
@timb7328
4 жыл бұрын
Why do so many people have to make videos with loud intro music....you guys going to get me fired lol...then I wont have any money to buy your stuff so please either no intro music or make sure the levels are the same lol, But good job and thanks for the video, I appreciate your time in making them
@noahmoser1250
3 жыл бұрын
Did you actually say 3rd but not last cmon man
@Will-vs4nr
4 жыл бұрын
cs2 just feels better in the hands to me, the shot quality is negligible for or against it.
@danielchirico4920
5 жыл бұрын
And who cares if there is a button to press, the pops is a tryed and true system best in the market.
@michaelcrowder9703
4 жыл бұрын
PE hater
@chaseschannel1151
4 жыл бұрын
I’d rather have 100 tippman 98’s than one CS2
@Srtdiorr
5 жыл бұрын
Are these 50 cal
@Po7ent
5 жыл бұрын
Shaunisthename noooooo 68
@alexpb6781
4 жыл бұрын
this gets the award for the most stupid question this year
@chaseschannel1151
4 жыл бұрын
Alex PB I dunno... it’s definitely in the running but I believe I’ve heard stupider so far.
@jalamypeno
3 жыл бұрын
Yes
@bradleyking1427
5 жыл бұрын
Anyone know the song at the start
@ericthepaintballguy
4 жыл бұрын
bradley king use Shazam or Soundhound to find out
@TehPrismCODTrickshotting
4 жыл бұрын
cs2 so easy to find problems and adjust settings and shoots clean im ripping people who played 6 years with my cs2 while there all with dlx luxe and i only started 3 months ago
@chaseschannel1151
4 жыл бұрын
You’re wrong. Swap guns with them and you’ll still be ripping them lol. They just suck. Come play me.
@tayloremriectx
4 жыл бұрын
A day late, a buck short, I’m writing, the report.
@bazookaboy2377
4 жыл бұрын
Charging isn’t field practical but luxe x can swap charge battery’s so dye would be last
@1morissette
5 жыл бұрын
I’ve owned all 3 and prefer the x
@loganroy5474
5 жыл бұрын
Why tho a few more features isnt really worth the extra money
@loganroy5474
5 жыл бұрын
I love paintballing but there is a point where its too much, isnt there better things to do with money than spend it all on a over glorifiedbbn paintball gun
@ZeroNobo
4 жыл бұрын
@@loganroy5474 if you have the cash and its what you want, no other justification needed. Tippmans all shoot paint and are dirt cheap so why would we spend more on a paintball gun then right, but some people want tech in their guns. Some want them to be easy to tech, some want a more comfortable feel, more air efficiency and some want the best they can afford. If anything its a good thing 1500 dollar guns aren't in a completely different league than midrange or entry level cause it means they don't completely dump on midrange or entry level guns unlike the old days and stop people from being unable to compete because they cant afford a decent gun
@ZeroNobo
4 жыл бұрын
@@loganroy5474 also, you could take that statement and apply it to almost any sport hobby or interest. Why would you want a car that isn't a 90's honda civic when they all get you where you need to go? Theres obviously other factors at play and at the end of the day, you're gonna buy what you want that suits your needs and you're not gonna worry about what others think you should be purchasing. Same applies for this.
@chaseschannel1151
4 жыл бұрын
Logan Roy the question isn’t which is the better value, the question is which is the best... of money isn’t an issue then get the cheaper one
@socalsoilder1
5 жыл бұрын
MORE! vids
@tayloremriectx
4 жыл бұрын
Obviously biased review... I knew from 1:45 in. You only show the luxe and dye shooting? Lol k
@lucasherrr9649
3 жыл бұрын
this guy is definitely a planet eclipse hater😂
@topdoug6613
5 жыл бұрын
I’m just going to say dye is last
@BR-zt9no
5 жыл бұрын
Awww, somebody's gonna be sad!
@topdoug6613
5 жыл бұрын
This guy got paid off
@topdoug6613
5 жыл бұрын
Dye fan don’t watch
@ericthepaintballguy
4 жыл бұрын
Top Doug LOL, but Luxe X was his choice at the end
@loganroy5474
5 жыл бұрын
But who would spend over 1000 dollars on a paintball gun doesnt anyone have any bigger problems to worry about than paintballing. I mean have you ever heard the term its not the marker its the player. I would rather spend 300-400 on a mini gs or something than 1500-2000 on something with a few more features
@pikwells7141
4 жыл бұрын
paintball places are into one purchase selling (1 gun sold=a lot of money) a better strategy and a better way to get people into the sport would be to lower the prices, although they wouldn’t get as much money per sell, they would sell a lot more things
@Spartan8181TTV
4 жыл бұрын
I mean if you have Money get what you want and show off plus more expensive have Better stuff like air efficiency ect
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