My joke whenever I fumble arithmetic at D&D games is “I’m a math major, I haven’t seen a number in like, five years”
@janzwendelaar907
Ай бұрын
That's precisely the sort of joke I'd expect a math major to make at a D&D session
@maxwellquipey1
Ай бұрын
math with no numbers is just straight up Illegal
@helloiamenergyman
Ай бұрын
That's the standard math major joke. We've all said it at some point
@YaamFel
Ай бұрын
I study math not arithmetic goddamnit!
@alnahiyan6511
Ай бұрын
I can't make my engineer friends understand that in math exams I had to solve theories.
@ChrisAdaline
Ай бұрын
My college roommate was a math major and after he got to the point where he understood some advanced number theory stuff, he lost the ability to do simple arithmetic.
@maxhagenauer24
Ай бұрын
I'm in calc 3 and I almost always have 3rd grade arithmetic errors.
@triplestaff
Ай бұрын
Me: *does weird orbital mechanics calculations easily* Also me: "what's 5+8 again?"
@vinhnguyen-ms3kx
Ай бұрын
@triplestaff i know its 13 but let use calculator just incase
@tacomiester
Ай бұрын
Highest math Iv taken so far is precalc and I get times where a basic 0-10 number line has me in the fetal position thinking about what numbers even are.
@triplestaff
Ай бұрын
@@vinhnguyen-ms3kx there's still a small chance I'll be wrong, and I'd rather have the calculator be at fault then.
@bkis1838
Ай бұрын
One math professor at my school was teaching math to mechanical engineers and one time said: "Okay, you are engineers so let's look at a realistic example, imagine a rod that is infinitely long and it's diameter is infinitely small"
@AbhaySingh-ts9gt
Ай бұрын
godddd daammnn it , was he trying to move a electron though it , so he cana assume only oen electron was moving and based on that he started talking about current in infinitely long rod leads to magnetic field production
@cavejohnson4054
Ай бұрын
Sir if you spin that it creates a time machine
@AbhaySingh-ts9gt
Ай бұрын
@@cavejohnson4054 actualluy ireally dont know about it , plz plz plz , a bit more info about it will help me digest it
@eaterofcrayons7991
Ай бұрын
is that just a line?
@bluemacaroons
Ай бұрын
@@eaterofcrayons7991its THE line
@erisch126
26 күн бұрын
Asking a doctor of mathematics to multiply something for you is like asking a programmer to help you install your tv
@CedrusDang
6 күн бұрын
Nah, they will just ask us to build a pc. 😢
@penta4568
5 күн бұрын
I just have my BS in Math but THANK YOU!!! Constantly with the multiply two numbers
@stixoimatizontas
3 күн бұрын
@@penta4568 I'm really sorry but when I saw BS I read out loud bullsh*t. Second language struggle 😅😅😅😅😅
@josefdrapak1889
3 күн бұрын
@@stixoimatizontas lmao same
@nickeldan
Ай бұрын
I was a set theorist. In my first graduate course, the only numbers on my final exam were those enumerating the questions.
@JimAllen-Persona
Ай бұрын
😂😂😂
@kaustavchakraborty6811
Ай бұрын
Lmao okay that was funny
@Superpellexl
Ай бұрын
"was"? What do you do now?
@nickeldan
Ай бұрын
@@Superpellexl I’m a software engineer.
@Superpellexl
Ай бұрын
@@nickeldan ok cool!
@MarkWatsonY
Ай бұрын
“Be an engineer” - shots fired
@PatrickAGaied
Ай бұрын
LMAO
@cyka6blat989
Ай бұрын
Lmao good someone else caught that lmao
@brenomanhaes9322
Ай бұрын
Funny thing is, if you do engineering you basically see the same thing as the people doing math just not as in depth as them. You can just freestyle it but the safest way to go through engineering is still learning the "math language" because you are still required to see the stuff you will never apply in your field of engineering (or basically any field of engineering)
@madewithrealdiamonds
Ай бұрын
crazy too, because we solve the problems that their mathematical theory can't. Engineering is a field of applied science and math. Theory inofitself is great, until those pesky laws of physics, computing limitations, and costs become parameters. I chose engineering, spanish, and portuguese😂I can't see myself trying to communicate in Valdivia, armed with only the theory of linguistics
@micayahritchie7158
Ай бұрын
@@madewithrealdiamondsYes and that's entirely fine we need people to study Spanish but we also need linguists
@zeg2651
8 күн бұрын
The "If you wanna study Spanish, be an engineer." was personal
@jo-d433
18 сағат бұрын
I think Spanish was a compliment and Portuguese is the pinnacle, in mathematical language. Translated for you. I don't understand languages.
@prico3358
Ай бұрын
This lady with this video is the best ad for math i ever saw in my life. So much that made me search.
@hejalll
3 күн бұрын
I excelled in primary school math, I scraped by in high school math, I died in college math. Whenever derivatives, integrals and function analysis hit me i literally wanted to off myself.
@prico3358
3 күн бұрын
@@hejalll literaly? You are suicidal? I dont have friends anymore either.
@hejalll
2 күн бұрын
@@prico3358 not actually suicidal especially not after passing the class.
@lukastace3154
2 күн бұрын
Personally I'm an idiot and I didn't understand what she was saying at all 😭
@prico3358
Күн бұрын
@@lukastace3154 everyone starts in the beggining. Expand on different clasical books from the past and learn to think abstractly. Watch many formal debates.
@Arkouchie
Ай бұрын
The Mathematics to Linguistics metaphor is really good, holy crap
@nitesy381
Ай бұрын
Sometimes, they go together. Sometimes with automata.
@JacobNingen-zu6zs
Ай бұрын
Gauss chose to go into math due to the heptadecagon.
@someoneonyoutube8622
Ай бұрын
Honestly this is why im studying philosophy, logic and metaphysics is the foundation that underpins both mathematics and linguistics. Not to mention epistemology is what serves as the foundation for any field of science. And all three of these philosophical areas of study are heavily linked. On top of that there’s also ethics which is highly important but can’t be effectively answered using any other field on its own.
@nicoyoung1281
Ай бұрын
or you can get a degree in computational linguistics as i did 😂
@viceng.6311
Ай бұрын
True, it works very well as a metaphor, but I don't like when people say that "math IS a language" because, it is not, it doesn't work like a language, and even the closest that we have it (set theory or logic) is just turning a word into a symbol. Every mathematical proposition can be transformed into real words.
@LordJacobGinsberg1st
Ай бұрын
I remember joking about using the Greek alphabet in physics till I got shown an equation with so many variables it had every letter of the English Greek and half the Egyptian alphabet. THEY RAN OUT OF LETTERS IN TWO LANGUAGES.
@jaykaufman9782
Ай бұрын
I want that equation on a T-shirt.
@mojojojo6535
Ай бұрын
Isn't the Egyptian alphabet Arabic Or do you mean ancient
@Hiljaa_
Ай бұрын
I can't wait for the year 2031 where we start using Chinese characters for mathematics
@kel6714
Ай бұрын
What was the equation
@reemavishwanath1046
Ай бұрын
@@mojojojo6535lmao wb hieroglyphics
@MjsticCpybr
Ай бұрын
I was not previously super interested in mathematics before this; I’m pretty good with it, but I wasn’t super interested in pursuing it. I am, however, very fond of linguistics, and this video has prompted me to consider further pursuit of mathematics. Thank you.
@Alex-zf9il
Ай бұрын
this is awesome
@karm00n29
8 күн бұрын
Do math its good for ya
@saeso6974
2 күн бұрын
Same
@anamariavidis3063
23 күн бұрын
Speaking 4 languages fluent and few more light conversation. Definitely love math and it’s pretty addictive. ❤
@holonaut
12 күн бұрын
Man I wish you would have said additive
@w4pz859
Ай бұрын
Ah, that why when I took linguistic for my master degree I suddenly liked math
@McSeal
Ай бұрын
What is math if but another language from a different root to most?
@nitesy381
Ай бұрын
As a CS major, I fucking hate how we found a way to make actual machinery into language using math. Automata and regular languages are a pain to learn.
@auraswan951
Ай бұрын
It would explain why when I started to take another language in school, I got better at math... And why I got so good at math when I started to focus more on the language.... Interesting.....
@VivekYadav-ds8oz
Ай бұрын
@@nitesy381 I wouldn't really say there's a lot of math involved. I'm studying compiler design literally rn and I'd say most of the meth is probably in proofs hidden deep in textbooks above my grade.
@XavierVB
Ай бұрын
Here I am, planning to go into (some sort of) linguistics degree, and I like doing math on the side sometimes 😂
@notme222
Ай бұрын
As a finance major, I once took a class in Linear Algebra which was otherwise populated by math and physics majors. Someone asked me a question about economics, and I had to cut off my initial answer and go "Well I was going to say it's a little abstract, but then I realized where I am."
@greaseTalk
Ай бұрын
Beat it commerce geek *Grins and chuckles in 1960 bully
@Impiloiscam
Ай бұрын
Did physics in high school and I have this one Accounting module bro🤣Shit has it's own people imma stick to physics
@KarenSDR
Ай бұрын
When I was in grad school in math we used to say of our textbooks "The only numbers you're going to see are the ones on the bottoms of the pages."
@ProxCQ
7 күн бұрын
This is the closest I've come to understanding anything to do with math since graduating from high school. Well done, it was a good way to put this.
@keylime6
7 күн бұрын
I am going to take pure math as my major and linguistics as a second major/minor for my first year, and I also happen to be a conlanger, so you basically just described me 😂
@ConceivedSorrow
Ай бұрын
- Oh, so you're studying maths? I'm bad at fast calculations - Me too lol
@alex2005z
Ай бұрын
Im very fast at typing stuff into my calculator
@phillyphakename1255
20 күн бұрын
My dad and brother are accountants. They don't do math, they use Excel to do math.
@Free2101
Ай бұрын
Can confirm. Studying pure math drastically improved my language learning and English ability. It really is just another form of communication
@GT19873
25 күн бұрын
The language part is only part of it. Math is more than just that.
@user-lb8qx8yl8k
23 күн бұрын
Exactly! Math is a logic-based extension of everyday language.
@sunnicivang1093
10 күн бұрын
I've started falling in love with linguistics over the years, although I was a math geek in highschool and college. I never had a thought they'd ever be connected like this.
@jaimej110
5 күн бұрын
This video might have just convinced me
@GreenSharpieScience
Ай бұрын
If you wanted philosophy do math, if you wanted math do physics, if you wanted physics do chemistry, if you wanted chemistry do biology, if you wanted biology do psychology. Not always accurate but it’s a decent approximation of what to expect.
@treefrogg
Ай бұрын
what if you wanted to do psychology
@GreenSharpieScience
Ай бұрын
@@treefrogg social work maybe or sociology? I started by getting a degree in physics and and ended up w a phd in physiology I never made it through to psychology
@alexnovak2669
Ай бұрын
@@treefroggearly childhood education.
@LETMEKNQW
Ай бұрын
There’s also the path of studying informatics instead of math
@cems7258
Ай бұрын
@@treefrogg read novels
@thomasbarbera550
Ай бұрын
Omg as a physicist I relate so much 😂 the number of times I have to tell people that my PhD work looks nothing like something out of The Big Bang Theory is unreal
@Eric-xh9ee
Ай бұрын
They use real equations in the show though. I was also a PhD student.
@HaramGuys
Ай бұрын
I guess u are not the minority of ppl who study abstract mathematical nonsense that they call "theoretical physics"
@i_dont_pay_taxes491
Ай бұрын
@@HaramGuys my field of study: good, truthful, real Your field of study: fake, untrue, imaginary
@jizert
Ай бұрын
@@HaramGuyswhat
@thomasbarbera550
Ай бұрын
@@Eric-xh9ee that is true! They definitely use real physics in the show. But the process of developing theories and working on projects looks nothing like what they show the characters doing. That’s what I meant; the process of doing the research is nothing like what they show
@truth8526
Ай бұрын
Instructions unclear: Now I am both a pure and applied maths major and am making a language that has a hint of both Spanish and Portuguese.
@erix_emilliott
20 сағат бұрын
You mean Galician?
@Iampowerful8
4 күн бұрын
I love the the connection between math and languages. I speak English, French and Spanish.
@twistedelixir1795
Ай бұрын
Proofs may not look like a lot, but there is more time and energy put into some of my proofs than I put into entire essays in other classes. I took differential equations this last semester and it was a breath of fresh air. Now I just have to apply that to my thesis... which actually uses real analysis.
@descendency
Ай бұрын
I got really good at writing the words "Assume not... This is a contradiction. QED."
@JimAllen-Persona
Ай бұрын
You poor bastard… that’s why you stay in Applied Math. Proofs suck.
@user-me8hy8ew4o
Ай бұрын
@@descendency Nothing more satisfying than writing QED. at the end
@STUDYING-ew8xf
11 күн бұрын
@@user-me8hy8ew4o Colouring in a square is more satisfying that Q.E.D. IMO.
@ave_rie
Ай бұрын
As a Communications major, this is so true! My classmates taking pure math degrees were elegant at writing and explaining. Meanwhile, my engineering classmates were STRUGGLING to describe stuff but are excellent at showing you things with prototypes/drawings.
@user-sc5wo7yy4k
5 күн бұрын
for some reason I read that as "As a Communist major" and I was so confusde. I should sleep
@Personwtcats
5 күн бұрын
@@user-sc5wo7yy4k If you’re not asleep yet, go to sleep now
@27pratibhachandra8
4 күн бұрын
@@user-sc5wo7yy4k Good Night 😴
@salmonella7993
4 күн бұрын
Hope you're enjoying your no job now :)
@lauramann8275
3 күн бұрын
Sounds like a right brain left brain kinda thing.
@AkaedatheLogtoad
25 күн бұрын
This explanation is so good. I love it.😂
@psygamez7727
Ай бұрын
I literally found this video in my recommended after looking up where’s the best place to study linguistics
@jacksonwright3469
Ай бұрын
As a mechanical engineer major. I wasn't ready
@Mdksupreme1
Ай бұрын
Why?
@banwar6861
Ай бұрын
@@Mdksupreme1 as a mechanical engineering major, you have to take math up to ordinary differential equations/linear algebra and physics up to introductory quantum, relativistic, and nuclear. also numerical methods with matlab and kinematics of machinery is a pain.
@dickgrason2688
Ай бұрын
@@banwar6861my university did a numerical methods with matlab course and it was in fact pain
@yowo6105
Ай бұрын
Im a linguistics major but i also take mathematical proof and logic courses and its incredibly interesting to see how the two intertwine. Naturally, im going to pursue a masters in logic.
@AR-yd2nd
Ай бұрын
Master in logic? So based, let us know if you finish the neopositivist project
@BaofuTheCanonicalPersonaHater
Ай бұрын
once you get a degree in logic, you win every argument ever just by mentioning it. i'd believe anything someone with a degree in logic said
@ambatuBUHSURK
Ай бұрын
you're linguistics major and you're so also gonna get a degree in logic. bro is grinding his skill tree
@oliviarice8987
Ай бұрын
I love logic it’s such a fun and interesting subject
@Atmatan_Kabbaher
Ай бұрын
@@BaofuTheCanonicalPersonaHaterSounds illogical.
@Jonny09A
Ай бұрын
"Be an engineer" she forgot the other part "and earn more money".
@djdanzo206
22 күн бұрын
lol mathematicians make way more, think of quants ,actuaries etc.
@@Jonny09A computer scientists are able to go both ways tho...
@Jonny09A
11 күн бұрын
@@pewdro like almost every other career in the eng field..
@kolyashinkarev7366
8 күн бұрын
@@djdanzo206bruh, if you think engineers only do arithmetics, then you think engineer is a construction worker😂
@imauz1127
Ай бұрын
bro just flamed engineers and thought we wouldn’t notice 😭
@spearmintlatios9047
Ай бұрын
My hardest math class to this point was Graph Theory, I took it as an elective for my minor. The proofs were essays talking about discrete systems and basically no numbers were involved, the highest distinct number I remember seeing in that class was 26 (The question was “prove a graph with 10 vertices and 26 edges must contain at least 5 triangles”) The hardest math used in that was probably some light combinatorics like nCr (or how many distinct pairs/triads/etc exist out of n objects) or taking a simple derivative to minimize or maximize something
@Shadowk556
Ай бұрын
Bro I just finished graph theory this semester 💀, legit hardest thing I took in my life. At some point I just memorized the theorems and their proofs word for word since there’s always a couple test questions about them
@DG20202
Ай бұрын
I had it last quarter and loved it. Teacher at the start said there are basically 2 ways to prep for the test. 1. learn the idea's behind the theorems and proofs to reproduce them. 2. or learn em word for word
@clemente3966
Ай бұрын
Bruh, I fuck with Graph Theory, but you'll never see me easily calculate the Fourrier or the Taylor transformative formulas of a non basic function.
@crix_h3eadshotgg992
4 күн бұрын
@@clemente3966I bet you eat corn from top to bottom (horizontally)
@clemente3966
4 күн бұрын
@@crix_h3eadshotgg992 That's assuming I'm one of the Aericans who would do that (because I honestly can't think of any other country known even a bit for eating them raw like that), when I'm not even American to begin with.
@czerwonykwadrat6843
Ай бұрын
Stefan Banach, one of the most important 20th century mathematicians, was literally drunk out of his mind when writing some of his theorems and stuff, and he did it on a café table
@slyfox6996
Ай бұрын
I can honestly say I've had to have a few drinks to keep myself sane and on track to make models. This is definitely realistic.
@lucioluciolucio
Ай бұрын
I majored in physics and at college we used to joke that all they taught us math-wise was the complete Greek alphabet plus ones and zeroes.
@KatBaumgarten
11 күн бұрын
This is the most incredible explanation i have ever heard i am WITH YOU SISTER
@rifqitaqiuddin
Ай бұрын
"The more you study math, the less you see Actual Numbers"
@commirevo89
Ай бұрын
THANK YOU!!!!! Math major here, and a math teacher for over ten years. People constantly give me the side eye when I say that math and language are actually very interconnected.
@RenABFF0
Ай бұрын
I mean, math is for a large part a way to concisely and precisely express concepts and logical reasoning. They’re certainly connected. Do you explain to them in what way they’re connected? For me I immediately jump to thinking how they feel so different, which makes some irrational part go “so they can’t be connected (~ similar)” instead of realising while they feel very different, that doesn’t mean they are any less connected. Because math as a “languages” feels “purposeful” in a way normal language aren’t. In language a lot of things “just are” even if they make no sense, because people just started using a word a certain way and it catched on outside of the context of other parts of the language. So stuff ends up feeling sort of unstable and natural in a way “stuff just is that way” when it makes no sense. For math it’s more like we all agreed with stuff and then built up from there, so while some stuff isn’t perfect, in general it feels like an language since it feels like there’s way more care taken to have less stupid stuff that just happened to evolve that way.
@commirevo89
Ай бұрын
@@RenABFF0 I try to explain it that way. The issue is with how many people operate under the limited understanding that Mathematics = arithmetic, and only arithmetic, but view arithmetic as just a series of inputs on the left side of the equation that lead to outputs on the right side of the equation rather than seeing the entire equation as a statement that "these two quantities are equal". I'm in the US, and a lot of the issue lies in how math has been taught here with a focus on procedures and accuracy on tests rather than concepts. I'm a math teacher myself and trying to do things differently for the next generation, but it's hard because first I need to help other adults realize their limitations.
@RenABFF0
Ай бұрын
@@commirevo89 I guess it was easier to see the difference for me, when I went to school they had added “rekenen” (arithmetic) to the syllabus as a separate subject from “wiskunde” mathematics. It has since been removed though. For people who don’t want to pursue mathematics further, is the focus on procedures and accuracy a issue as well?
@rdklkje13
Ай бұрын
I never understood why people so often say you can’t be good at both maths and languages. To me, the key to both has always been pattern recognition in chaotic systems. So if you’re good at that, you’re good at understanding maths as well as natural languages. And quite possibly at using them too. Music also comes along for this ride, as far as I'm concerned.
@rdklkje13
Ай бұрын
@@commirevo89 Fascinating point about how people in the US have been taught to not see equations as, well, equations 🙃🤔 It boggles the mind. All the best with your efforts for the next generation.
@kelly4435
Ай бұрын
OK, I know your angle here is math, but I just have to say how much I love that you've used the language tree from Stand Still Stay Silent for your linguistics example. Such a good comic ❤
@diffdimgamerseven9986
8 күн бұрын
maths in college:what number are you talking about? we rarely have these in our equations
@lillii9119
Ай бұрын
As someone who's good at math, I can confirm I have a good understanding of linguistics. However I don't understand shit in Spanish nor can I multiply past 10
@descendency
Ай бұрын
My "language" is computer language. I'm so-so at human languages, but I'm well above average at things like C, Go, and more. I'm pretty sure the same applies.
@prithujsarkar2010
Ай бұрын
As someone who's so not good at math, I can confirm I'm not good at languages apart from English (not my first language) which I learnt from reading solutions to math problems written by other people :D Also I can't multiply past 10 either
@ruby_loveyt
Ай бұрын
@@descendency Cout
@abiestar261
Ай бұрын
@@ruby_loveyt that was a pretty good joke
@br2716
Ай бұрын
@@descendencyCringe
@novaace2474
Ай бұрын
I love how she says “make their own language” as a joke but I have made multiple full languages 😅
@mari-with-a-gun
Ай бұрын
“As a joke” maybe it wasn’t
@BacklTrack
Ай бұрын
Doubt it
@afj810
Ай бұрын
she is not joking everyone knows conlangs exist
@novaace2474
Ай бұрын
@@afj810 ya not everyone dude, we’re kinda a rare breed
@afj810
Ай бұрын
@@novaace2474 esperanto is literally on google translate
@lawrenceweinzimer
Ай бұрын
Appreciate the intellect and analogies ❤ ! I'm definitely sold. I've subscribed.
@thepolishcow9050
Ай бұрын
This analogy is also accurate in that applied math is substantially more useful than pure math, and learning a single widely used language is substantially more useful than learning about linguistics.
@HoloTheDrunk
Ай бұрын
Computer science major here, I haven't done an addition of non-power of 2 numbers in multiple weeks.
@chri-k
Ай бұрын
lol. I've sometimes found myself rounding to powers of 2 when approximating arithmetic
@GeekOverdose
Ай бұрын
Any time I mess up a proof, I come up with a formal system in which the proof is correct
@this_is_fine747
Ай бұрын
that is superb
@AR-yd2nd
Ай бұрын
Bro is breaking ZFC a thousand times a day
@GeekOverdose
Ай бұрын
@@AR-yd2nd mood
@Trephining
Ай бұрын
My main math joke is when I’m at jiujitsu and drilling with my partner, and doing my reps, I’ll ask “Was that two or was that three? I have a degree in math, but we never covered counting. They just assume we can do that. Oh and we cover the theory of counting and when things are countable or not. But counting to three, not in my wheelhouse. So I guess it’s your turn.”
@aaronmarks9366
Ай бұрын
As a linguist, I appreciate this comparison. I think math is really cool ❤
@Mcperson823
Ай бұрын
Learning music theory to play vs learning to make a song
@djdanzo206
22 күн бұрын
good analogy
@Velereonics
Ай бұрын
you have that directionless frantic desperation in your voice that was so characteristic of that department. I did my masters in physics instead but I remember talking to math grad students to figure out if that's the direction I wanted to go in and one of them said to me "well I cry every week and I don't think I've learned anything in 5 years but I haven't been let go so... oh crying? yeah most people do. I don't even know what's real" i was like bitch....
@borisbukalov9407
19 күн бұрын
Very well said! As a physics major in college and a math and physics teacher, I couldn't agree more!
@thomasrad5202
Ай бұрын
It has been proven with cutting edge linguistic research which involves doing FMRI of the brain while doing various tasks, that language has 0 overlap with any other tasks surprisingly. Math, logic, music, computer programming, spacial reasoning, etc. are all examples of tasks with 0 linguistic overlap. Patients with fully disabled left hemisphere of the brain are able to do math and computations at a high level while having 0 ability to process language or communicate with others. People often confuse the ability to process symbols with language, but there is 0 overlap. The patients earlier who have no linguistic capability are able to process symbols in order to do math and logic. But can never communicate or derive meaning from actions, words, symbols, forms, etc. This proves that people are very much capable of "thinking" without language. Also, while it is a good analogy there is no overlap between math and language. Source: Edward Gibson, psycholinguistics professor at MIT, head of the MIT language lab. (He touches on some of his and his colleagues research in an interview with Lex Fridman #426)
@redreuben5260
Ай бұрын
And then there is the language of music.
@cyka6blat989
Ай бұрын
And art
@prithvisukka9271
Ай бұрын
Which is just math
@Finn-OskarMikkelsen
Ай бұрын
@@prithvisukka9271 golden ratio, if you believe that stuff
@AR-yd2nd
Ай бұрын
@@Finn-OskarMikkelsen I don't think that's what they meant by math (but formalization in music is not my forte. probably something to do with time series and signal processing)
@spagta
Ай бұрын
@@AR-yd2nd True, golden ratio is more superstition than fact, and music is a whole lot more complex than one ancient constant.
@wuzadiva
Ай бұрын
No clue why this ended up in my FYP, but, I've got a story. 😊 I'm a singer and was back in college, getting my bachelor's in music (vocal performance) and since I'd done most of my degree at conservatory but was now at a liberal arts college getting liberally educated😅 I needed things like math. My advisor put me into what we lovingly termed "Math for Sopranos", and i actually discovered that I was surprisingly adept at it, and had quite a mathematical mind, which blew ME away after years of the struggle bus. The story, however, is about this particular class. It was taught, of course, by a rotating roster of the department's professors. None of them particularly enjoyed getting kids through this class at 8am, but they had to do it, we had to do it, it got done. My class was taught by this day man who was clearly a mathematical genius, but had obviously LONG ago lost touch with the more... soprano side of things. But I'm not what you would necessarily call "shy", and I'd long ago learned to ask questions until I understood things,and so I did. Class full of kids just out of highschool, me, and this professor, and I'm asking questions until i understand, he is stumbling until he can explain. With a thick accent. Bless his heart. (He ended up being one of my favorite professors on campus, actually!) One morning, we had entered into a section that i just couldn't grasp. If i don't understand why I'm doing something, i can't understand a thing, so finally i figured out how to phrase the question i needed to ask, which was, "what is the purpose of what we're learning right now? Does it have an application further in in math that we build on, or is it more that we're learning it to learn how to think mathematically?" Let me tell you he panicked at the first half of that question! And i didn't come up with the "think mathematically" option until after a good pause, during which you could absolutely heart crickets chirping and see droplets of sweat beading up on his brow! Given the out of "think mathematically" he took it and ran with it, "yes, yes, that! " and my brain was finally able to shut up and just learn the stuff, and we all lived mathematically ever after!
@jesse_campbell
14 күн бұрын
It's nice when engineers test maths in real life occasionally.
@lebo3793
15 күн бұрын
I feel like I just walked into another dimension
@nathanvanlent9407
Ай бұрын
Genuinely the best description of Mathematics I’ve ever seen, now I can finally explain my own major
@Ginjitzu
Ай бұрын
I've always had an affinity for linguistics and spotting the etymological roots and corollaries of words, but I've always struggled with maths. I think it's the abstract symbolism. Like, I've no issue with saying, "OK. Let this symbol mean this quantity" in principle; my problem is that I just always forget what the symbol means almost right away. Funnily enough, I'm a software engineer by trade and people always assume I'm good at maths and express surprise when I tell them how awful I am at it. But the really nice thing about modern software languages is that we don't have to use abstraction. Got a value that represents the ratio of comments to views? A mathematician (or C programmer 😉) might call that something abstract, like "x", and lose me entirely, but call it "commentsPerView" and I'm golden. And programming let's you do this nowadays, because there's no additional cost. But maths is traditionally done on paper, where page space is at a premium, so I get the necessity of brevity, but I feel like I'd have been better as a student were this not the case.
@lx6108
Ай бұрын
OMG ! Same.
@spoperty4940
Ай бұрын
There isn't any difference between calling something x and naming a variable, it's not more abstract it's just a different name
@bluyu
Ай бұрын
The power of libraries, APIs, and automation lmao
@user-me8hy8ew4o
Ай бұрын
@@spoperty4940yes but since some different names are not self explanatory it's more abstract. When a farmer would say to his kid "Can you make sure the Y are in the X and all (u with q(u) % 2 == 0) are fed?" It's more abstract then saying "make sure the cows are in the stable and feed the chicken" even though its just different names and definitions (chickens: 2 legged) Not the best example, but I didn't really think about this, you get what I mean
@spoperty4940
Ай бұрын
@@user-me8hy8ew4o a % m==0 is only really used in coding, we usually use a ≡ 0(mod m), also by definition abstract is more general, if we have a common ground like in this example that Y=cows etc, it's not more general, this rule doesn't apply to more things, it still means the exact same.
@Akto
Ай бұрын
The moment I realize my language-learning hobby was actually my crave for mathematics all along
@gabrieldefreitascoelhocarr9556
Ай бұрын
I heard long ago in my academic progress, probably in the beginning of my first college course (Lectures of physics), mathematics is a language as any other, like English, Portuguese (which is spoken here in Brazil), Japanese... Now I'm in 2° college course, Electrical engineering, I continue to apply mathematics but it's extremely hard to me think about the "linguistics" in the background, I admire who has the patient and the interest to study logical and cultural languages around the world.
@merrychristmasreaper
Ай бұрын
I’ve had this thought forever that math should be taught as part of language. It makes it so much easier when I think “what’s the logical proof this person is trying to communicate to me “
@spoperty4940
Ай бұрын
It truly doesn't, math is to generalize and abstractify the physical world(originally and in more applied contexts, pure math is way harder to describe), while language is a means by which you communicate directly, language is intuitive and second nature, while certain topics in mathematics really are neither unless you really love math, not to mention the great confusion it would cause to involve a scientific subject with language studies and how this translates badly in globalization of education
@hypergraphic
Ай бұрын
Well Hilbert did say that the goal of math is to formalize all language.
@joshcreegan8816
Ай бұрын
@spoperty4940 math is taught as a process when really it is a collection of statements that we use to make claims from other statements.
@merrychristmasreaper
Ай бұрын
@@spoperty4940 These feel like unnecessary distinctions to be honest. A^2+3Y=8 is not itself a radically different idea than filling in the blank for something like: “An apple a day keeps the ___ away.” One employs additional tools depending on context, but then you’d do the same for any other deduction. It just has extra steps. They both require you to fill in missing information based on memetic understanding. “Oh but one’s scientific”. They’re both communicating information. Treating it as an abstract logic puzzle isn’t without merit but what about that helps you visualize it? What about that actually connects to the greater framework of what any human being is taught, when unnecessarily divided this way? Calculus is a problem that exists to solve for relative areas in a mathematical context created by pi, and individually there are an assortment of proofs that you use to approach it relative to whatever you’re talking about. Separating the two only ever serves to force you to study something as if it wasn’t a language despite mathematics being heavily bound by language as a means of communicating complicated ideas that aren’t necessarily true but whose comprehension provides unique tools and insights. And that’s a lot easier to teach than: “Make sense out of these random numbers whose meaning we will never explain or ground you in, only in your ability to replicate the process without understanding.” It undercuts math and language both treating it this way.
@spoperty4940
Ай бұрын
@@joshcreegan8816 math is more like chess, we set the basic ground rules and from there we discover what they lead to. like in chess, we didn't invent that E4 was a good starting move, we set the basic rules and that arose.
@jonasghafur4940
Ай бұрын
i feel like the German school curriculum, despite being fantastic in preparing students for higher education in general, does a poor job at putting the mathematics we learn into a bigger picture. I dabbled into chemistry in a program allowing high school students to attend university, and i now chose medical school. Only now, with nothing to gain, other than satisfying my curiosity, i pursued mathematics on my own dime. I discovered a whole new universe of ways to make sense of the world, and I’m only beginning to get a feel of how the bits and pieces assemble and I’m absolutely hooked. However, I’m kinda gutted being this late to the party. It’s entirely possible that this is mainly on me and i should have paid more attention. But man, aren’t we lucky to live in time of unlimited access to knowledge? Life can be so beautiful.
@cuppiecupsters
8 күн бұрын
My mom majored in math and is completely fluent in Spanish! She is so smart in math and languages!!
@elmothewisest
Ай бұрын
The second semester of precal which was almost entirely trigonometry was my first taste of this and it still had numbers But specifically simplifying trig identities Never saw a number over 1 or 2 in that unit
@broxrosenfeld8418
Ай бұрын
I want to study math and linguistics, and I have received lots of support for this idea. I never thought this strange combination would be appreciated. I've been torn for a while, because applied math and engineering seem so much more practical, but I feel like the theoretical side is what I'm actually good at. Idk
@hell594
Ай бұрын
Listen I half understood what you just said so take my advice as a grain of salt but go with what you are good at and not what's 'practical'. If you are good at it then it'll be a skill you'll adore to use and spend a lot of time perfecting (which is what people want, a skilled person good at what they do) but if went along the practical route then everything would be half hearted and you might become good but you're more likely to be mediocre (and not much appreciated) because it's not what you enjoy doing. Practicality isn't something set in stone, you can't expect the same thing to work for everyone because this is life, it doesn't work on a single formula where there's only one right answer so just do what you're good at (or maybe ignore this cuz I'm a freaking kid who knows nothing about anything-)
@the_linguist_ll
Ай бұрын
Also if you’re interested in natural language processing that’s a perfect combo. Also math does pop up around linguistics
@hell594
Ай бұрын
These two comments have more brain cells than all my body cells combined ( I still understood nothing but chaosssssss)
@christiandevine7199
Ай бұрын
I went to school for mathematics and genetics and originally intended to pursue academia. I pivoted during COVID for financial reasons, but I had no major issues finding good jobs with a math background. It’s a very solid choice for a major if practicality is a sticking point.
@TheEllod
Ай бұрын
I remember even as a kid when I went to math Olympiads all of my teammates were comfortably trilingual. It makes sense, as the the common connective link in math is the most sensible part of languages, so having access to small variances in different languages presenting the same argument concepts allows for a refinement in the mind of the viewer, which leads to the language of creating math
@jamesfranklin458
Ай бұрын
knowing languages doesnt make your logic more sound, i speak quite a few languages. this is like saying chess players are iq 180. being good at languages is just like any other craft, takes time and effort and its very handy but it is what it is, it doesnt give you magic powers.
@TheEllod
Ай бұрын
@@jamesfranklin458 I am arguing that if languages were learnt in formative years, it will make your logic sound, it is like saying that person who is competent in chess checkers and dominion will probably score well on those iq tests. There is no such thing as having an IQ of some number, it is a meaningless test that actually favors those with a shallow understanding of many things(or those willing to answer given questions while asking themselves the question, "in what way is the question maker and examiner most likely to be stupid?" And answering based of that understanding.
@jamesfranklin458
Ай бұрын
@@TheEllod well you are wrong, there is no connection between language ability and ability to form an argument. hell look at any of the thousands of fringe linguistics theories out there that claim basque is related to whatever other language.
@afj810
Ай бұрын
@@jamesfranklin458 being faster at picking up languages does inherently make it easier for you to wrap your head around new concepts in general
@ses694
Ай бұрын
Olympiads are very different from academic mathematics
@scowlistic
Ай бұрын
Math, language, music, and cooking. Four pillars of existence.
@CesarAbeid
Ай бұрын
The disdain with which you say “be an engineer” made this engineer LOL
@vkmsoler4462
Ай бұрын
"bE aN EnGiNeEr"
@CloneReaper
21 күн бұрын
damn u mad
@Avighna
Ай бұрын
The linguistics analogy was really good
@forcelightningcable9639
Ай бұрын
Read this as “meth and language at first” 😂
@Keetz
Ай бұрын
It’s really reassuring to know my affinity for both math and language isn’t a coincidence
@catherinepoteat
Ай бұрын
Yep. If you liked math in grade school, go into Accounting. If you like money, Engineering or Computer Science. If you like LOGIC, then study math.
@maxhagenauer24
Ай бұрын
I wouldn't put it that way. Math is not logic. Math is just a bunch of conceptual theory with numbers to solve real world problems, but I wouldn't call it logic. Also, engineering is not just for the money, engineering also involves a lot of math, but mixes in physics as well.
@spoperty4940
Ай бұрын
@@maxhagenauer24what you said about math is quite wrong, infact a whole gigantic field of math is literally called logic and a lot of math theory is useless in practice atleast for centuries to come in a lot of cases at the modern level, but the engineering take is true.
@maxhagenauer24
Ай бұрын
@@spoperty4940 I thought logic was it's own subject and wasn't a branch of math. I thought 99% of math has to do with numbers and things you can do with numbers using basic logic.
@spoperty4940
Ай бұрын
@@maxhagenauer24 At high level math, the concept of logic is the only constant, when viewing radically different systems of maths in category theory or in axiomatic set theory, the very foundations of modern math challenged and viewed from different angles.
@maxhagenauer24
Ай бұрын
@@spoperty4940 So it still all follows the same logic and the same axioms? I'm not sure I understood.
@robin7433
Ай бұрын
I remeber studying computer languages as context free grammars for my math/cs degree and that really opened my eyes to language structure and rigorous math proofs
@piecesofmathematics
21 күн бұрын
Such a cool video! Love it! 😄
@paulm3079
12 күн бұрын
“Be an engineer” FINE I WILL I’m an EE lol
@meowlotow
Ай бұрын
OMG the background for the language family tree is from Stand Still Stay Silent, a webcomic I love!! Are you a fan??
@lunarennui
Ай бұрын
I was about to say this!
@meowlotow
Ай бұрын
@@lunarennuiare you a fan too? It's kinda rare to find people online who have read and properly remember it, especially still enjoy it today
@lunarennui
Ай бұрын
@@meowlotow I am a fan, I actually just found about two weeks ago and have not quite finished it! It's sad to have missed out on all of the comments and KS stuff. It also hits differently from this side of the pandemic...
@meowlotow
Ай бұрын
@@lunarennui @lunarennui omg I KNOW. I found the comic a year ago but only read it last December... I hope you're having fun with it. It does hit very different reading it in 2023-2024 tho. Imo the second arc is worse than the first but the first is just unforgettable. I adore the worldbuilding Minna did with it :D The comments are fun to read I agree, its like looking into the past. And afaik KS stuff are still sold on the hive works shop.. I'm not from the US tho so merch is hard to come by 😭
@AR-yd2nd
Ай бұрын
Mathematics so fundational and complex it's materially indistinguishable from magic
@stixoimatizontas
3 күн бұрын
What a wonderful way to demonstrate the different type of mathematics. My mathematics skills might be at a rudimentary, but as someone who over the years has studied 7 languages (9 if I include ancient Greek and Latin) AND attended linguistic courses in uni, I can definitely tell the difference.
@nathanaguiar7264
Ай бұрын
You know what my favorite thing to tell math majors is? "Let me get a side of fries with that burger."
@kevinstreeter6943
Ай бұрын
I have a BS in math. I agree with where you are going. The most important thing to know about math is do not major in it.
@Trephining
Ай бұрын
The actuaries would like to have a word with you.
@Hi_Im_Akward
Ай бұрын
The more I learn about math the more I love it and the angrier I feel at my teachers for making me hate it. Im dyslexic and dyscalic and didn't get much help. The "help" and "support" I got was mostly shaming and getting mad at me. As an adult, math concepts make a lot of sense, even if I can't do basic arithmetic in my head. I actually really loved algebra and most kids in my grade hated it. It was kind of like learning how to interpret a poem or make a poem in a way? Idk, it just had a rhythm to it and I liked pulling apart the puzzle of the equation with order of operations.
@MissFazzington
Ай бұрын
The more I hear and learn about math, the more horrified I am for my future self.
@lissomecoral
Ай бұрын
when i was a science and math student in high school, i always thought to myself, 'so you have to be quite philosophical here'
@michaelo5665
Ай бұрын
If you want to learn spanish be an engineer is such a great non sequitur when taken out of context.
@Mman18
Ай бұрын
Actually, linguists make up languages all the time. These are called constructed languages, one of the more popular ones you might hear about is Esperanto
@jimcognito4631
7 күн бұрын
I started off as a philosophy and fine art major with a major interest in logic and application to formal linguistics. I started to learn more about applications to mathematics in language analysis, and then learned about the connection between mathematics and language. When I realized that mathematics was more about a language of describing the phenomena of the real world I became hooked on the subject.
@Dre2Dee2
22 күн бұрын
its like learning a language that loses you friends instead of making you more
@user-gp8oj1ci9h
Ай бұрын
My main options for major are literally mathematics, linguistics and philosophy. Those might be the three most interconnected fields ever!
@antoinelegall6402
Ай бұрын
My teacher: what is ... Me: can I have my calculator? The teacher: No, why? Me: I want to find the result which is 3748392 x 75263. The teacher: ... We don't care, that is not interesting. It's just the result.
@abarette_
Ай бұрын
>he can't decompose 3748392 x 75263
@Sigma_Ligma_Grind_Entrepreneur
Ай бұрын
My teacher started writing hieroglyphics in calculus ☠️
@tonybosco2827
Ай бұрын
Nicely done!
@procarreviewsbypablo6340
Ай бұрын
The degrees that make no money
@17RedKnight
Ай бұрын
Engineering?
@procarreviewsbypablo6340
Ай бұрын
@@17RedKnight you found the singular caveat
@BoxEnjoyer
Ай бұрын
Statisticians?
@BoxEnjoyer
Ай бұрын
Actuaries?
@procarreviewsbypablo6340
Ай бұрын
@@BoxEnjoyer nope
@juanfuertesf
Ай бұрын
I took a bunch of statistics in grad school without the big math background; the Greek letters and math terms are a bit daunting.
@soxton4612
Ай бұрын
Damn, us engineers really do be catching strays
@sircyborg
4 күн бұрын
Ey! The Minna language tree! That takes me back.
@matthewvanrooyen9067
18 күн бұрын
That is the best explanation of my qualification that anyone has ever provided
@reidflemingworldstoughestm1394
Ай бұрын
"Be an engineer" Shots fired!
@imjustaghostO.O
Ай бұрын
that’s gotta be the best way to describe it
@jonboy700
16 күн бұрын
I loved (and still love) math, then I discovered language-learning, I love them both!
@maritime9297
Ай бұрын
Damn, this just renewed my tertiary choice crisis 100 fold
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