marss and maister did really well! not that sure about the rest...
@amazing1112
Ай бұрын
Lucina in S tier though?
@cjwerner2747
Ай бұрын
Zss propaganda post lolol
@electricssb
Ай бұрын
Lucas's placement is so off. Tweek believed Pink’s propaganda despite the great results from his relatively few mains and the inherent strengths of the character. Character is at least a high tier. Top tier shield pressure, top tier edgeguarding, top tier combos, great neutral, great advantage state, amazing matchup spread(notice how few Lucas mains have secondaries), and his only weakness being a lack luster disadvantage, which is way better than other terrible weaknesses from characters in the top tier. How are DK, Lucario, and Wii Fit above Lucas???!
@rileylmao1218
Ай бұрын
For those who are wondering, no. ZSS is not the worst to win a super major. Ken's Sephiroth won BOBC4 and MKLeo's Byleth won a lot of tourneys as well, the first that comes to mind for me was Genesis 8
@opo4724
Ай бұрын
thats cool and all but ngl ZSS imo is worse than both sephiroth and byleth
@JJ-xe6wd
Ай бұрын
BOBC4 (2022) was only a major no S tier
@typhlosion7872
Ай бұрын
One thing to note, though, those weren't solo runs. Ken used some Sonic and Leo used Corrin to beat Lui$. I don't really remember any tournament where Leo used only Byleth and no Aegis/Corrin/Joker/ROB and won. Maybe Mainstage 2021, but I don't remember too well. If not, ZSS is the worst character to win a supermajor as a SOLO MAIN, but not overall
@LakeEatsDirt
Ай бұрын
@@opo4724thats just wrong
@kevinhamilton2584
Ай бұрын
Ike baby lets go
@JackBz
Ай бұрын
Leo dominating for 2 years with a C-tier is so based
@LameloNic
Ай бұрын
@@JackBz not trying to downgrade leo but these characters weren't always c teir
@henkiestudios5117
Ай бұрын
C+ tier
@Noobman667
Ай бұрын
@@LameloNicthe only reason people thought byleth was higher was because of multiple reasons. The matchup wasn’t fully known and the character was used by the best so obviously byleth’s gonna look very good
@dingo9696
25 күн бұрын
byleth below banjo is insane cope
@Erteywie
17 күн бұрын
It's his Ike era again. But he never got the same legacy because it's another FE character
@VD_RXTR0
Ай бұрын
Captain Falcon in D+ is diabolical
@luroluroluro
Ай бұрын
I mean there are jogibu and karaage taking names after names in Japan, wtf
@kyallon1213
Ай бұрын
Nah character is dogwater
@Pickiest
Ай бұрын
Yeah this tier list is trash, tf you mean captain falcon and pichu are comparable to KIRBY in d tier???
@Mike-di3mo
27 күн бұрын
@@Pickiest kirby is like C- on that note puff is C+
@xraku3744
20 күн бұрын
@@Pickiest its true in competitive play at least. these tier lists are going to be slightly skewed as characters like falcon that are bad against most of the s tier characters will rank very low because they have little to no viability in competitive play
@TehWhiteTiger
Ай бұрын
Sonix in denial about how broken his character is, as in actually broken. Steve controls the game, Sonic decides if you are even allowed to play to begin with.
@benross9174
Ай бұрын
Steve just keeps you out and camps. Sonic prevents you from fighting at all
@rizvan1632
Ай бұрын
He is very hard to play to make him as broken as people think he is
@Alibaba-id1cs
Ай бұрын
He puts Sonic in like Top 5 and I agree that he should not even be in the same tier as Steve Sonic can only decide to play his game if he manages to get a lead where as Steve can just play his game with little risk and is only getting better and better with even bannable tech There’s like no comparison between those two lmao
@Moirax
Ай бұрын
Denial? Sonic was top 7 before Sonix, and he understands his character better than anyone else in the community so yeah It's not like he put Sonic out of top 10 c'mon 🤣
@rick-fl7ql
Ай бұрын
Mr game and watch punishes you for playing the game
@twilightthief9819
Ай бұрын
Bro im gonna cry if Sonix was serious about Joker being better than Sonic
@Brandon_4272
Ай бұрын
@@twilightthief9819 he is tho 😭
@MatthewMojica
Ай бұрын
@@Brandon_4272 Not at all, listen to what Tweek said about Sonic being better than Steve because it's true. There is not one matchup that Sonic struggles to play their game. They can always camp and run. Joker doesn't have an answer to terrible matchups like Pika/Pichu, Sonic, Kazuya, and Diddy.
@AhmadKazan-wk7ei
Ай бұрын
That was literally the common opinion last week bruh.
@gj4312
Ай бұрын
@@AhmadKazan-wk7ei who? No it wasn't
@armakeen3576
Ай бұрын
@@AhmadKazan-wk7eime when I lie:
@kingcar4728
Ай бұрын
Maister saying Pikachu is overrated then ShinyMark camped the shit out of him even though his matchup is supposed to be winning is pretty funny
@TwinHacari
Ай бұрын
Shinymark didn't camp him
@kingcar4728
Ай бұрын
Yes he did he timed him out 1 game
@Jumogas
Ай бұрын
@@kingcar4728there’s not much u can do much as pikachu while fighting gnw
@eatingyoshi4403
Ай бұрын
@@Jumogas He's not condemning it
@CarbonMalite
Ай бұрын
Ngl Pikachu GW might be losing, but Time-out Pikachu GW is absolutely Pika-favored
@Lambchop909
Ай бұрын
I’d love to hear why Sonix thinks Tweek, Leo, and Marss know “nothing about the game” since they think Sonic is on the same level as Steve 😂 💀
@eclipsekaos6548
Ай бұрын
@@Lambchop909 he's tweaking tbh, his while list is just based on his experience with matchups to exclusively sonic and he doesnt wanna admit he's carried
@foxshinehiyaa3933
Ай бұрын
Sonix really hurts you dude @@eclipsekaos6548
@ISoundMasterBlasterI
Ай бұрын
Sonic doesnt even have losing match ups
@sinfinite7516
Ай бұрын
I’d like to think he’s playing it up for views lol
@dashinglydistinguishedgentlema
Ай бұрын
@@ISoundMasterBlasterIsonix himself said it but then says sonic isnt close to Steve
@tepperpepper1047
Ай бұрын
Sonix saying Sonic rating was "absolutely outrageous" got me, ngl
@eddio9466
Ай бұрын
I do agree tho! Joker is busted. Sonic is indeed good but Sonix makes him better. Joker's hurtbox gives him the edge imo
@GameVenturing
Ай бұрын
@@eddio9466 I'm a joker player and I can definitely say he is not better than sonic at all. Joker imo is harder to play, and in general has less good things about him (all be it he has very many good moves and attributes.)
@snoww9807
Ай бұрын
@@eddio9466 Sonic literally controls the entire flow and pace of the game though. Sonic isn’t necessarily good because of hit boxes and moves but because he can literally just out movement you for the entire game. If joker can’t get in the hurt box doesn’t matter
@Relisoc
Ай бұрын
@@GameVenturingofc he’s hard but if you main joker I’m sure you can see the case. Character is incredible, base already feels quite powerful and arsene is insane. I’ve had too many games where i take a quick 3-1 lead or make a disgusting comeback because of arsene to definitively say joker is below anyone other than Steve
@user-dk3ow9xi4y
Ай бұрын
@@eddio9466yeah I agree. Steve is above Sonic and is a different tier and I say that as a Rosa main.
@legrandliseurtri7495
Ай бұрын
''anyone who thinks Sonic is on the same level as Steve doesn't understand the game'' Tweek doesn't understand the game, it's official.
@adrianstyranitar717
Ай бұрын
@@legrandliseurtri7495 didn't he say sheik top 3
@eatingyoshi4403
Ай бұрын
@@adrianstyranitar717 Here is a better question to ask: Do you think the only guy who has been top 10 on a year by year basis knows nothing about the game?
@kirukaku6612
Ай бұрын
He's kinda right tho, Sonic has to make a lead in order to be really broken, and you can put a hitbox in front of spin dash, whereas steve doesn"t need to fight till he gets diamond and starts spammimg up air or jab, which have little to no endlag and are disjointed
@adrianstyranitar717
Ай бұрын
@eatingyoshi4403 Oh my b, so did he get top 10 with Sheik, bro? No, he used diddy. I'm not saying he know nothing about the game, but you can tell if someone is a stubborn believer in a character thats more biased than data driven. In other words, don't take someone opinion on face value, Just because there good at the game. they are still credible, his word is not law
@brianpinder9859
Ай бұрын
Sonic needs to hit you once and that’s it. He’s the fastest character in the game. He doesn’t need a stock lead. Hit once and then camp. If you need proof, just get on elite smash. If you need top level proof, watch Sonix
@gkoala8360
Ай бұрын
Why is Captain Falcon down there 😂
@toowiggly
Ай бұрын
Because all of the top Falcon players in America quit or don't travel, and they've never played against the best Falcons in Japan
@sambrassard1267
Ай бұрын
Same with Chrom in C
@luroluroluro
Ай бұрын
@@sambrassard1267 yeah I mean chrom has a terrible recovery but his neutral kill power and advantage are still nuts
@SolidBren
Ай бұрын
Its the trendy bias of tier lists being made to represent recent results/the current meta, rather than their known capabilities and potential. Which in my opinion, is a mistake. Falcon could/should go up. He is honest, but his speed and consistent abilities to combo and kill brings him so much value and versatility. That being said, he is definitely not war criminal enough to be a top tier and has too much unfavorable matchups with the high tiers. IMO. Still one of the most explosive mid tier characters arguably bordering on high tier. The game just has so many great characters, that it can get a bit rough for him.
@luroluroluro
Ай бұрын
@@SolidBren honest is exactly what Falcon is not ahah! In fact he is the definition of inconsistency, but definitely not the definition of honesty. That inconsistency is what makes him look “honest” imo. The real problem for him is that is too volatile. He is the same spot as character like sephiroth Mewtwo or lucario, potentially very good characters but too volatile in practice. But he’s still more result consistent and viable than Mewtwo tho for example, which is in a similar position
@bucket8064
Ай бұрын
Tweek doesn’t know a god damn thing about Sephiroth
@gfx_light5713
Ай бұрын
Preach my brother
@jasonbakopoulos8587
Ай бұрын
He actually
@HxL-yy1fl
Ай бұрын
yeah he should be lower
@TwinHacari
Ай бұрын
Top tier. Mashers just can't play him 😂@@HxL-yy1fl
@ABC-ik9vj
Ай бұрын
Wow, a top tier knows less than an elite smash warrior like you 😮
@triarcness
Ай бұрын
"Sonix is the only one to put fox and Joker in top 5... I'll have what he's having what the hell this dude's just basing his top 5 on characters that do well against Sonic" - Marss
@xraku3744
18 күн бұрын
sonix was wildin but so was tweek for thinking sheik is top 5 😂
@baxxys413
Ай бұрын
Tweek putting shiek in top 5 has me shpinnin
@yuomovaeh3028
Ай бұрын
Maybe I'm too casual but I just can't understand Sheik being top 4. Are there actually any results or reasons to back it up?
@pbz7572
Ай бұрын
@@yuomovaeh3028nope, no major wins, no major top 4s, Webb is bringing in the best Sheik results rn & he’s yet to top 8 a major
@yuomovaeh3028
Ай бұрын
@@pbz7572 Yea Webb is good and I'm very often rooting for him. But unfortunately he doesn't quite make it. I guess a TAS Sheik could be maybe that good but tier lists should not be made with perfect play in mind since no one can do it.
@rich7103
Ай бұрын
@@yuomovaeh3028 He'll break through to top 8s one day, he's almost there and just needs the clutch factor and hopefully he finds a secondary for ICs, Rosa etc.
@yuomovaeh3028
Ай бұрын
@@rich7103 I hope so! It would definitely be a breath of fresh air to see a Sheik W.
@core_63
Ай бұрын
“joker is better than sonic” 🌚🌝
@shinyman250
Ай бұрын
@core_63 there's no wayv
@jilvermazariegos
Ай бұрын
That honestly triggered the fuck out of me
@kunntakentay
Ай бұрын
@@jilvermazariegoshahaha
@Whalordius
Ай бұрын
Palu 7 MK 8 😭😭
@one-wingedoreo
Ай бұрын
@@jilvermazariegos so you know more than Sonix does I bet? Where are your major wins with the character?
@liampbjray5562
Ай бұрын
do away with "esam opinions", i think we gotta start talking about tweek opinions...
@wealthycow5625
Ай бұрын
Tweek's opinions can be wild sometimes but also on point. He called Sonic being broken before Sonix started even getting big results
@n8icuss
Ай бұрын
@wealthycow5625 kinda, I'm pretty sure Tweek started praising Sonic in tandem with his praise of Sonix as Sonix started to become a threat in top play. Tweeks opinion was that Sonix's playstyle with Sonic was one that seemed like there was no way he could lose outside of human error. It was a good call, but this is at the same time he greatly undervalued Steve and of course was also talking about how broken Sheik and the other common Tweek tierlist favorites. So I'd definitely say "Tweek opinions" though I get his logic. He just seems to have a strong focus on consistent neutral above all else
@wealthycow5625
Ай бұрын
@@n8icuss Yeah, he usually has a logic behind it, but some of his takes are definitely wild LOOL
@n8icuss
Ай бұрын
@wealthycow5625 Yeah but at least he hasn't gone as far as to say "Ike beats Sonic" or something absurd like that XD... (that would be me 😌)
@Frillix
Ай бұрын
This really reminds me of the old panda content with Esam Marss and wadi
@fantastic_jarod2391
Ай бұрын
Is anyone gonna talk about that ABISMAL Falcon placement??????
@luroluroluro
Ай бұрын
I don’t even know what to say at this point. The character can just randomly kill you and every percent and he does that constantly and in every mu. There are some active players performing very well with him too
@xanander4693
Ай бұрын
It’s so bad that I don’t even want to look at it
@danielaldama6664
Ай бұрын
Sonic, MKLeo and Maister are Falcon haters, they have talked about it
@luroluroluro
Ай бұрын
@@danielaldama6664 well in this case they should be even more concerned about the fact that he is not that bad I mean
@angelplayz02
Ай бұрын
Marss saying ZSS sucks his part of his personality lol
@AndresAndr95
Ай бұрын
Stride vs LG crew battle would be sick now that I remember who’s on the teams
@flyingtree12
Ай бұрын
20:00 wait till he finds out Byleth is lower
@justinsantos8613
Ай бұрын
look at Ike lol
@flyingtree12
Ай бұрын
@@justinsantos8613 yeah I had forgotten about that and Sephiroth
@DemonEyeHelix
Ай бұрын
Byleth is definitely better than zss. 100% a top tier and people would rather just keep sucking leo off and saying he's a god for completely dominating the entire game for 1½ years with a mid tier than admit the character is actually busted.
@BestGeb
Ай бұрын
@@DemonEyeHelix characters not busted
@DemonEyeHelix
Ай бұрын
@@BestGeb Definitely busted. Lowest average kill % in the game. Long range. Strong neutral. Busted nair that plays the game for you. One of the best recoveries in the game. Arguably best reversal potential in the game. Strong ledge trapping. Ridiculous advantage state. Only "weakness" is "oMg ByLeTh Is ToO sLoW"
@BlzOmega47-ud2kv
Ай бұрын
While making a tier list, - Characters me and my good friends play: apply -0 to -2 - Characters I hate/lost to often: apply +1 to +2 And then end it with a comment “No bias, btw”
@ryanrech107
Ай бұрын
That first part didn’t really apply other than sonix putting sonic 4th
@Wizard_Lizard_
Ай бұрын
The biggest problem with this list is absolutely C. Falcon
@ripstr0ke
Ай бұрын
Sonix must be hitting the bong before giving his opinion about Sonic, otherwise there's no way.
@basara2102
Ай бұрын
If you pause at the right time, you can see Marss actually gave ZSS a 6/10
@rorywagner1539
Ай бұрын
Sonix being unbelievably biased 😂😂😂
@Spyder-Marth
Ай бұрын
Marss dislikes Marth because he can't land tipper back airs. Also cool to see Sonix and Tweek respect both Corrin and Marth ✊️
@silverpotato4272
Ай бұрын
Hi Aether
@flamingfury287
Ай бұрын
Dude marss just owns this channel now that's crazy
@cjwerner2747
Ай бұрын
Mars def gave zss a 0 skewing the results lol. She can have trouble getting hits but she is also super hard to hit lol . I wonder if he really did lol
@jaruca
Ай бұрын
@@cjwerner2747 Nah, he gave ZSS a 6. You can see it briefly at 13:22.
@cjwerner2747
Ай бұрын
@@jaruca thanks , thought I mighta missed it if they showed
@LukeIsCooCoo
Ай бұрын
Bru they put my boy Sora to low 💀
@KyngMK
Ай бұрын
@@LukeIsCooCoo literally they put him extremely low wtf are they doing
@patopaez2763
Ай бұрын
Falcon is criminally low, the char is a solid high tier tbf.
@gunkman_man
Ай бұрын
great format, i love thats its a different way to gather data.
@orok6803
Ай бұрын
Maister saying game n watch is top 15 into saying Kazuya is 2nd is crazy. But then going down to A+ and calling all of those characters TOO HONEST is SUPER crazy, to me.
@TwinHacari
Ай бұрын
He's right
@KingObliv
Ай бұрын
he got that reversed
@geramoreno8458
Ай бұрын
He said that game n watch is top 10 not top 15*
@notapro6430
Ай бұрын
33:25 Kirby above Falcon and Pichu is probably the wildest take in this whole video
@eanderson9599
Ай бұрын
Sora placement is criminal
@kyallon1213
Ай бұрын
Byleth in C is insane, the things Leo was doing with that character could be considered felonies in multiple states
@MalikJ.O
24 күн бұрын
fr, somewhere in B prob
@amberknight7301
Ай бұрын
Ness is WAY too low.
@silverpotato4272
Ай бұрын
Banjo over Ness is wild
@TwinHacari
Ай бұрын
Wildly accurate
@megamanxfan02
Ай бұрын
Have you ever even seen Toriguri’s banjo before? He beat Leo & Spargo before btw
@silverpotato4272
Ай бұрын
@@megamanxfan02 Yea and he's clearly fighting an uphill battle the entire time. That's just skill diff and matchup inexperience
@Mike-di3mo
27 күн бұрын
@@TwinHacarinah puff is better then banjo, same with bowser, Marth, Lucas, Ness, etc lol
@Mike-di3mo
27 күн бұрын
@@megamanxfan02yeah but so many other players have beaten more top players with there characters
@Doomxeen
15 күн бұрын
Tweek made the best point, with Sonic you can just always break away and just kind of reset the state of things and just really can't get smothered or bullied. It's so easy to shift gears with him and try new approaches and you get tons of tries.
@sauce8277
8 күн бұрын
Tweek explanation was actually very logical, indeed. However, I think it seems that way because Sonix is already so good at using Sonic’s good disadvantage to stay alive. However, that effort is already used up. He can’t get additional tries then what we are used to so I’m not sure if Sonic can push as hard as Tweek thinks when he is down without taking relevant damage in this advanced meta. Like that time he fought against Pac-Man and lost for pushing. (However that was just morale that day for him then anything)
@nonooooo6174
Ай бұрын
Lucina is not S tier
@AJ-sn7lz
Ай бұрын
I main Lucina and I absolutely agree. A tier, sure. S tier, no way.
@nonooooo6174
Ай бұрын
@@AJ-sn7lz Lucina is good at almost everything but doesn’t excel at anything in particular. This is why I think she should be in either low A or high B tier
@AJ-sn7lz
Ай бұрын
@@nonooooo6174 You nailed it. She's extremely well rounded, just not the best at anything in particular. It could be my bias, but I think B is too low, she has a pretty decent matchup spread imo. Mid to low A tier is where I would put her.
@TwinHacari
Ай бұрын
You're right. She's S+ Tier.
@TwinHacari
Ай бұрын
@@AJ-sn7lzyou haven't fought one that's good. They have above average speed and frame 5/6 Aerials and can do anything cloud can do with a stronger recovery and frame 1 disadv escape option. Easily top tier.
@El1te01
Ай бұрын
It would be cool if they released this google form link. Ranking the characters like this sounds fun
@JackBz
Ай бұрын
Can we have a legit discussion (or argument lol) with Tweek and Sonix in the same room about why Sonic is/isn't broken? Would legit LOVE to see that
@lokks2130
Ай бұрын
1-10 makes ranking Smash characters so much more nuanced. I've been eh on LG ideas but this is a W, actually refreshing. And nice to see my main (Lucina) getting respect lol
@silverpotato4272
Ай бұрын
I also main Lucina and seeing her above Corrin in 2024 is actually so wild
@lokks2130
Ай бұрын
@@silverpotato4272 I think she's better than Corrin, just not as meta. I don't know if I rate her as high as nine but it's cool to see top players still rate her.
@silverpotato4272
Ай бұрын
@@lokks2130 Corrin has bigger hitboxes, better frame data, much better dps, and better killing. Luci has slightly better disadvantage and better mobility but it's not really a contest imo
@lokks2130
Ай бұрын
@@silverpotato4272 Since when did corrin ever have better frame data lol
@lokks2130
Ай бұрын
@@silverpotato4272 corrin has superb adv but mid neutral and disadv. lucina is excellent in every aspect of the game
@AlterXfate
Ай бұрын
9:45 for that toon link stamp for your friend
@yeiha
Ай бұрын
Sonix def in content mode with his sonic opinions
@python395
Ай бұрын
Having top players validate my feelings about Lucina is cathartic. She's so broken. Love her
@Mike-di3mo
27 күн бұрын
Lucinas placement is honestly probably one of the worst on the tier list, it isnt 2019 lmao
@abduleshabbar9223
Ай бұрын
Had to comment again because Sonix takes are wild. Bro is dilulu
@BaselardFE
Ай бұрын
"Why did they vote Aegis to be top 3?" My thoughts exactly lmao
@GLORPDORP
Ай бұрын
@@BaselardFE It's a pretty common take that Aegis is top 3 but I don't understand it at all. Aegis should be right next to Roy IMO.
@BaselardFE
Ай бұрын
@@GLORPDORP based
@K0DA._.
Ай бұрын
Because of the way they made the tier list, I think it might be less they all think Aegis is top three and more everyone knows that they’re busted and can’t argue against it, while other characters’ placements get argued over more.
@_TheAegis_
Ай бұрын
Aegis is top 10, top 15 Don’t ask me
@lokks2130
Ай бұрын
it's always dudes with aegis pfps lmaooo no better than the sonic drones
@mycoinsyourpurse2244
Ай бұрын
I can't believe Falcon was ranked worse than DK. Lol.
@TheTvSmash
20 күн бұрын
Sonix saying people who think sonic is in the same tier as Steve don’t know anything about the game is so ironic💀
@mrpineapple7666
Ай бұрын
Underrated characters in this list (in my opinion) (not ordered) 1. Kirby 2. Duck Hunt 3. Captain Falcon 4-6. All the Miis 7. Incineroar 8. JigglyPuff 9. Mewtwo 10. Rosalina and luma 11. Sora 12. ZSS 13. Mario 14. Pits 15. Lucas 16. Wii fit 17. Greninja 18. Mega man 19. Ryu 20. Falco 21. Young Link
@Mike-di3mo
27 күн бұрын
Finally some acknowledges jigglypuff and mewtwo
@mrpineapple7666
23 күн бұрын
I acknowledge characters
@AREYOUUSINGTHISTOARGUE
Ай бұрын
Captain falcon in d is insane
@athenacapablanca3118
Ай бұрын
Sonix is taking it so seriously while Maister is memeing the whole way 😭
@amirelbarouki3206
Ай бұрын
capt falcon should not be that low
@H1_R3Z
Ай бұрын
Bro, why does the dude that plays the fastest character in the game sound like he lives life at 0.5x speed?
@Legogreens
22 күн бұрын
@@H1_R3Z brainrot likely
@MitchBison
Ай бұрын
Tweek doesn’t know a goddamn thing about Sheik
@Solr05
Ай бұрын
I love the way Tweek thinks
@vertarix
Ай бұрын
maister saying pikachu hasn't done shit into losing twice to pikachu in a winning matchup on top of pikachu winning a major is crazy
@cs4215_
Ай бұрын
Lucina placement shocked me most, I think there’s a few characters below her that could take her S-tier spot
@alexnoren6141
Ай бұрын
Mkleo spitting with the swordfighter take at the end
@camden666
Ай бұрын
maister rated dr mario above byleth.
@TwinHacari
Ай бұрын
Based and true. Pills better than anything in Byleths kit.
@cephlo4933
Ай бұрын
@@TwinHacari Nair
@TwinHacari
Ай бұрын
@@cephlo4933 Pill.
@cephlo4933
Ай бұрын
@@TwinHacari Nuh uh, nair.
@Sancnea
Ай бұрын
@@cephlo4933 TWO PILLS
@leviduppongmusic
Ай бұрын
Maybe it's cuz Leo is my favorite player here, but his opinion was really on point imo. I like how respectfully and calmly he gave his opinion. No dissing anyone else, just plain straight up opinions.
@moonbeam2730
23 күн бұрын
this list has shown that Leo was truly built different
@IMZgreatest
Ай бұрын
Falcon in D tier is completely wrong on so many levels
@robertseptim3579
Ай бұрын
Kinda funny that the top 2 S-tier characters both start with the letter S
@wesleyoliver6404
Ай бұрын
Are we gonna ignore Sonix putting Lucario at an 8?
@jennyqin3298
Ай бұрын
The infinity war thumbnail goes hard
@jeffreybrown8422
Ай бұрын
Oh yeah, Marss is sponsored again. I thought I was clicking a Marss video. Thanks Luminosity!
@brentontreloar419
28 күн бұрын
You can't convince me that they all read the criteria for each rating
@mrmunchin2578
Ай бұрын
28:00 crazy how the guy with inane OOS options doesn’t like the command grab character
@mrmunchin2578
Ай бұрын
respectfully,
@foxshinehiyaa3933
Ай бұрын
The one question i have in my mind is "and ?"
@iliya1933
Ай бұрын
Tweek with Sheik in top 4? The guy is actually insane. VoiD and WebbJP put great work into Sheik, but I’d need to see consistent results before I could ever believe it.
@Kurono_Alien
Ай бұрын
The fact that Sonix gets to say the craziest stuff and so smugly in the community is unreal. Joker is not better than Sonic, that’s the biggest downplay I’ve ever heard. Sonix and Gluttony are the biggest gaslighters of this community ong
@JustANam3
Ай бұрын
In my humble opinion. Tweek doesnt know shit about sephiroth
@Hippienolic2
Ай бұрын
Crazy how this is just Marss’ second channel
@RealityParrot
24 күн бұрын
Im slowly starting to think the people ranking these are becoming more and more insane i think the first tier list is still the best one
@pamoon_
Ай бұрын
Even as a Jigglypuff main Bowser secondary, how the hell is Captain Falcon worse than both of them...
@Mike-di3mo
27 күн бұрын
They should all be higher but I think puff and bowser are definitely worse
@henkiestudios5117
Ай бұрын
Tweek doesn't know a single damn thing about sephiroth
@TerenceTanyi
Ай бұрын
Marrs is a bonafide entertainer
@PlasmaPlague
Ай бұрын
Awesome video. I really enjoyed it
@guy_trademark
Ай бұрын
Maister having kaz top 2 is diabolical
@one-wingedoreo
Ай бұрын
@@guy_trademark I can see it highkey Character is STUPID I've spoken to him on his stream about it too
@ghosty-fr2sj
Ай бұрын
Actually a great vid
@fireball444
Ай бұрын
samus that low is wild
@619shawn
Ай бұрын
Are any of the individual VODS up anywhere? I'd love to see an uncut version of all of them.
@brendanmohareful
Ай бұрын
This is a very reasonable list. Who woulda guessed.
@Y3zzir
Ай бұрын
Bless you maister
@00blazzer2
Ай бұрын
solid tier list
@it5memctaco176
Ай бұрын
Didn’t expect to get my Tink roasted by Marss :(
@troublesomecorsair
Ай бұрын
Sonix Meta Knight and Maister Puff would go hard
@silverpotato4272
Ай бұрын
Lucina in top 20 and Sora in the bottom half of the cast is not what I expected when I clicked on this video
@nap_time_
Ай бұрын
i love maister bro hes too funny
@HALFxLIFExII
Ай бұрын
insanely good video, thank you ♥
@StudyingManually
Ай бұрын
Maister's tier list and opinion are absolutely comprehensible and amazing!
@aohdan5713
Ай бұрын
This channels subs are gonna double with marss’s skits
@morcul
Ай бұрын
Great video
@Ssbuking
Ай бұрын
Mario Should be at the Top of A. Higher than Wolf
@JJ-xe6wd
Ай бұрын
I wish people would stop using "in theory" to rate characters. Sure sheik is amazing in theory but if you have to play near perfect to achieve top results, esp against her weird bad matchups, doesnt that indicate you are probably working harder than your opponent thus its not really the character, its just you playing excellently.
@TwinHacari
Ай бұрын
Not at all. It's not even close to theory if you're remotely good at the game. She's objectively top tier. You're just thinking small.
@KingObliv
Ай бұрын
"in theory" just means you have no evidence for your claim which is why I prefer results tier lists
@Alibaba-id1cs
Ай бұрын
@@KingOblivwhich is also a flawed conception because a single person can influence results to a degree that just can sure a character’s overall placement like Banjo or Pikachu if reps consistently attend events or not attend at all whether it’d increase their ranking or decrease it.
@K0DA._.
Ай бұрын
I think it falls less in line with playing perfectly and more judging the theoretical absolute peak of the character. However, at that point, you’d pretty much to have to evaluate TAS combos, because those are essentially the “in theory” peaks of those characters.
@ryanrech107
Ай бұрын
@@K0DA._.banjo best character confirmed
@asiandude918
9 күн бұрын
I'm starting to wonder if they would move Luigi up the list after watching SuperNova. Raru and Luugi were gaming in this year's event
@smooshedxs6394
7 күн бұрын
I’m gonna cry with falcon that low. My mans does not deserve that 😭
@YoungSimbaFGC
Ай бұрын
I just don't get how falcon has fallen THAT low. I can't be the only one right?
@BillyDrinksMilk
Ай бұрын
It's unfortunate, but Falcon truly does get bullied so much in this game as the meta has developed over time
@PaperGraysterYT
Ай бұрын
ike is not better than falcon
@abdullahhusain9336
Ай бұрын
It's like Sonix decided to switch off his emotions during the ranking but switched them back on during the reactions lol
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