As a player about to start playing an abjuration wizard, I take offense to the claim that bards are the best counterspellers, as by level 10, abjurers add their full proficiency bonus to counterspells and dispel magic
@OffbeatOutlaw
2 жыл бұрын
Woops I completely forgot about that feature. Thanks for pointing it out!
@lynnbird280
2 жыл бұрын
@@OffbeatOutlaw also circle of stars druids with their dragon starry forms
@kwaksea
2 жыл бұрын
Are you going to start with Hex Blade? I know 13 Cha is quite an investment, but Armor of Agathyst with Arcane Ward can be lots of fun.
@carsonjones2054
2 жыл бұрын
@@kwaksea I am indeed! I also started with a level in fighter for heavy armor to get even more cheese with Heavy Armor Master
@ClintonJohnson1
2 жыл бұрын
Lore bard can be a bit better 14+ from glibness and peerless skill, but it costs resources to maintain.
@tenthview4061
2 жыл бұрын
I actually played a campaign as a Horizon Walker (Melee) Ranger / Hexblade Warlock. It’s actually extremely effective. Your bonus actions don’t overlap that much, and it was one of the party’s heaviest damage dealers next to our fighter. Using Tasha’s ranger rules having Favored Foe so you don’t have to waste a BA or spell slot on Hex/Hunters mark is nice, and you get expertise. Overall the two classes actually worked really well together.
@justinr8097
2 жыл бұрын
I played a horizon walker (ranged) Ranger/ Archfey Warlock and insane mobility I had with teleporting everywhere was crazy good. Even though the final build concept didn’t finish until 17th level. 😞 But I was also an Eladrin elf.
@armorfrogentertainment
2 жыл бұрын
Other good things about Sorlock: having those level-1 spell slots means you can still use things like Shield at high levels, and the Quickened Spell + Cantrip combo works great with Eldritch Blast.
@varasatoshi3961
2 жыл бұрын
I feel as though sorlock is a far more satisfying multiclass than people give it credit for, far beyond coffeelock. Mega magic combined with Eldritch invocations can make you one of the most unique casters in the game. A blend of your subclasses can be exceptionally interesting.
@destroyerinazuma96
4 ай бұрын
Small detail: Eldritch Mind Invocation stacks with Con saves prof. So if you started as Sorc you now can enable boosted concentration checks.
@ClintonJohnson1
2 жыл бұрын
If your optimized damage character can't do more than Hex + Eldritch Blast + Agonizing Blast (accounting for chance to hit), it is doing a bad job. In fact it should be able to do 50-100% more if it is well done.
@tomraineofmagigor3499
2 жыл бұрын
That's why it's what is considered the baseline. That's the floor of what you should be doing and any optimized build should do better
@ZeoffArcaneOfficial
2 жыл бұрын
If you want a high initiative, a little bit of Swashbuckler Rogue could be funny since Rakish Audacity takes your charisma mod. It probably pairs well with giving Hexblade a little extra too because of that. But it does kind of trade off some "control caster" for "melee skirmisher" Also Sorlock is just fun even without going full coffeelock
@brandonedwright
2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, I'm playing a Swashbuckler 7/Hexblade 2 at the moment, and it's really good as a skirmisher. I do crazy damage between Sneak Attack, Booming Blade, Hex and Hexblade's Curse and I got to focus on Charisma as the party's Face since the array we're using doesn't allow multiple high stats if you're not getting +2 for every ASI
@tomraineofmagigor3499
2 жыл бұрын
Yeah this multiclass is the best one for getting the secondary damage of booming blade to trigger as you can catch creatures on their own him them with booming blade and move away without that OA
@ClintonJohnson1
2 жыл бұрын
Warlock is a fantastic multiclass for any primary Cha casters... especially the hexblade (sigh). I really wish the main features of hexblade were tied to pact of the blade instead of the subclass.
@Makareno94
2 жыл бұрын
That would break all other subclasses and make hexblade useless
@siragon756
2 жыл бұрын
@@Makareno94 That's the thing, hexblade is so particular with its "hitting with charisma" it would make sense to have it as a pact instead of a patron. If you take hexblade, you *are* gonna take pact of the blade and if you want to take pact of the blade while not having taken hexblade, you'll lament not having the charisma-hitting feature. So no, that wouldn't really break the other subclasses because it would just allow you to diversify the playstyles available more. And then, that would make multiclassing into Warlock much *much* more diversified than "and then I dip into 1 level of hexblade because I want to hit with my charisma" and not really paying it a lot of thinking
@Makareno94
2 жыл бұрын
@@siragon756 then everyone would pick pact of the blade cause other choises suck compared to it
@siragon756
2 жыл бұрын
@@Makareno94 No ? Pact of the blade would just be "you have a weapon and it allows you to hit with charisma", it just allows you to have a meelee build with the patron you want. Not everyone wants a meelee build with their warlock, you can still go ritual caster with the tomelock or have the flexibility of the familiar. Artificer has a subclass that allows you to hit with intelligence and it works just fine, I don't see how it would suddenly become problematic with the warlock.
@Razdasoldier
2 жыл бұрын
@@Makareno94 you don't look at book or chain do you?
@andrewmcmillan229
2 жыл бұрын
There's a specialized use case for Barb/Warlock if you wanted to make something of a thorns build. Making Armor of Agathys last longer by using rage can be very effective and if you play a Fathomless warlock you can stretch AoA out even farther by using your reaction to reduce damage using your tentacle.
@whysegaming1548
2 жыл бұрын
Imagine this: fighter 3, warlock 4, sorcerer 4. You action surge and spend 2 sorcery points to use quickened spell to cast eldritch blast 3 times and create what I like to call the Death Star. You now have 9 beams of eldritch energy hurling at your opponent/s on turn 1! It may not be optimized and just a dumb move but dam it sounds like fun.
@NinjaSushi2
Жыл бұрын
Fathomless Warlock so now eldritch blast are tentacles that slap people. Lmao like some crazy Japanese anime.
@TheScottishKayaker
Жыл бұрын
Better idea fighter 4 warlock 8 and ask your dm for illusionist bracers do exactly what you are attempting without using recourses ant take meta magic adept with the feat you get with that extra level in fighter and you will get higher level warlock spells.
@sauronsrighthandman301
2 жыл бұрын
As a Warlock enjoyer, always love putting at least 2 levels into Sorcerer as well as taking Metamagic Adept. That way I have a couple of 1st level spells to burn on, say, Armor of Agathys or Hex. And if I need big damage I can use font of magic to burn a slot if I need more sorcery points and quicken spell my eldritch blast, allowing a 17th level character to deal more damage on average than a disintegrate spell. It's really cool.
@tatersalad76
2 жыл бұрын
Fighter/Warlock is one of my favorite builds because of how it basically gets its entire kit back on a short rest
@MikeydactylGaming
2 жыл бұрын
Genie Lock + Barbarian is an EXCELLENT multiclass. Flying Barbarian by level 9 (I used Ancestral Guardian 3 + Genie Lock 6) and can use spellslots for Smites. Thematic, strong, fun, unique.
@NinjaSushi2
Жыл бұрын
Lmao flying barbarians.
@dextervanderwinden2280
2 жыл бұрын
I think oath of conquest and pact of undead work pretty well together since they both work around fear effects
@ovbrook3057
2 жыл бұрын
I think the big appeal with cleric is adding armor to a non-hexblade warlock. And I'm sure that can be optimal with the right build, but since you aren't getting the defensive spells from cleric to compliment the AC, generally you just wanna go sorc with the moderately armored feat. As far as wizard, druid and ranger go, there definitely are builds where the classes get good synergy. Notably, wildfire druid and repelling blast turn you into a very effective way of controlling who stands where on the battlefield, undead warlock and fey wanderer ranger let you be an effective fear spreader, and hexvoker makes things go boom
@pez1870
2 жыл бұрын
cleric = spirit guardians + spiritual weapon warlock = eldritch blast + invocations very powerful combo. you can push people in and out of your spirit guardians so unless they have a ranged attack / really fast movement speed they're basically dead. even if they do have ranged attacks / really fast movement you have teammates
@ovbrook3057
2 жыл бұрын
@@pez1870 true, you could totally do something with grasp of Hadar instead of repelling blast like most builds, since SG does a lot of average damage even with a low save DC. At that point I'd skip Spiritual weapon, since it keys off your wisdom and takes a spell slot and prep, which you won't have many of the latter as a wisdom 14 cleric, and go for something like telekinetic for my bonus action to drag even more people into SG to do even more damage
@pez1870
2 жыл бұрын
@@ovbrook3057 oh I didn't think of telekinetic. also I maxed out both Cha and Wis cuz I got lucky with my stats. I might consider taking it alltho I did take Metamagic adept for quicken spell so I can still do eldritch blast ony first turn
@user-xe4xw1ws1n
2 жыл бұрын
@@pez1870 Also instead of Cleric(unless you absolutely need the Channel Divinity) you can go with Celestial Pact/Divine Soul SorLock. Gives you the Cleric spells but using Cha rather than Wis + Meta Magic.
@pez1870
2 жыл бұрын
@@user-xe4xw1ws1n yeah ik but for that specific build I also needed the cleric abilities. also it's funny you say that cuz I'm just making a devine soul sorcerer build rn.
@georgeadams1347
2 жыл бұрын
I’m actually rocking a Dao Genie Warlock/Wild Magic Sorc in one of my current campaigns. The synergy there is just delicious. Chef’s kiss. 10/10 would recommend.
@scottreigle1756
2 жыл бұрын
A note on Counterspell that you mentioned in Bard. Sorcerers have Magical Guidance (from Tasha's) that lets them reroll a failed ability check for just 1 sorcery point.
@ChronoBolt
2 жыл бұрын
I run a Celestial Warlock/Light Cleric multiclass. He's designed to be a control/support character (thanks to the Light cleric class features and channel divinity), and the domain spells let him pull damage out of his ass if he's backed into a corner. That being said, there's a LOT of overlap between Celestial warlock and cleric in general, but ESPECIALLY Light cleric, cuz you're getting bonus radiant damage, resistance to radiant damage, and the Light cantrip from both subclasses lmao
@arcticwiz2249
2 жыл бұрын
Personally I think you can have some great mileage from dipping barb into warlock, specifically Bladelocks. Bladelocks can really benefit from resistance seeing their D8 hit die, and there are a areas where Warlocks fit nicely with Barbs (though admittedly small), with stuff like Eldritch Smite, Armor of Agathys and Mirror Image, as well as several instantaneous spells. You'll still be mostly a Warlock anyway, so you can switch between raging and concentrating on spells.
@malmasterson3890
2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, 1 level Barb dip for warlocks is actually really good, even if you're not Bladelock, so it should definitely be higher than D & moreover bottom B top of C. Fighter will always be the better option for a martial dip, but I've used the 1 dip Barb with Fiendlock to great success.
@TwoShot215
2 жыл бұрын
If Fighter is the potatoes of D&D then who is the Meat?
@OffbeatOutlaw
2 жыл бұрын
Warlock is chicken, wizard is steak
@drizzledaddygaming994
2 жыл бұрын
@@OffbeatOutlaw Does that mean Sorcerer is pork?
@Chris_winthers
2 жыл бұрын
@@OffbeatOutlaw and druid is the salad
@Flaraen
2 жыл бұрын
Barbarian is a well done steak, sinewy and tough and not ordered very often ;)
@Flaraen
2 жыл бұрын
I always use PeteNutButter's optimisation guide for this kinda thing if you're interested, it's possibly a little out of date now though so an update is nice to have :) Also I believe the baseline damage being a warlock is due to Treantmonk (could be wrong though, in which case forgive me), just wanted to make sure things are cited properly
@OffbeatOutlaw
2 жыл бұрын
Honestly it’s probably Treantmonk tho I myself am unsure of the origin
@briannelson27
2 жыл бұрын
I can't speak to the origin, but it is definitely an unchanging ruler with which to measure. every warlock ever will have agonizing blast and eldrich blast, while other classes might have spells, cantrips, ranged weapons, one handed weapons, two handers, or any combination thereof. Warlocks remain untouched by time and supplemental material.
@Flaraen
2 жыл бұрын
I mean I understand why you didn't give a shout-out, I'm also not 100% sure of the origin. I believe specifically Treantmonk's baseline involves the warlock using the hex spell, not sure if others use the same assumption
@BranHawk775
2 жыл бұрын
I don’t know if TMonk created it, but I felt that he made it much more well-known and explained it than it was previously.
@ANDELE3025
2 жыл бұрын
Warlock as optimization baseline came from a tg post turned GTPforum post after DMG came out due to a massive argument about spell slot to dpr worth. It actually uses the full "resourceless", "with single feature/spell slot use", "with full short rest usage in 1", "fsr but no rest between 2 fights" and "full DMG adventuring day" breakdowns with a factor of 0.9 for range advantage if over 60 ft distance can be maintained for at least 1 round without disadvantage. Its to a degree why some people spam the idea that hex is a bad spell/trap (or because they fucked up their math), as having to upcast it on a pure warlock ends up not worth it for 2nd, 3rd and 4th slot levels AND can be worse on easy, medium and solo hard fights and at 5th level/with the long duration if you have another BA buff option and the DM doesnt allow a bag of rats/"store as long as you conc on it and the duration lasts" reapplication. Meanwhile Treantmonk i believe started using lock concentrating on hex as a baseline around release of Tome of Foes.
@maxfawcett143
2 жыл бұрын
Okay hear me out. I made a monk warlock. Admittedly it’s more monk than warlock, but it still uses both classes to a fair degree. It’s Shadow Monk 8/Hexblade Warlock 2. Not only is it flavourful with both subclasses being darkness themed, there’s also a pretty cool synergy with the free monk spells and Devil’s Sight, Eldritch Mind
@gregslingland3576
2 жыл бұрын
I built (but have not used) a Monk and Draconic Sorcerer multiclass character. The idea was that he went and joined the monastery seeking help in controlling his power. Because he was going to be a PC, he took to this combination rather well, distinguishing himself in the eyes of his teachers. But there was another student who, until the sorcerer’s arrival, had been the favored student at the monastery. This student grew resentful at the praise given to the sorcerer and at his own inability to progress beyond his current abilities. This led to the student making a warlock’s pact, mimicking the abilities of the sorcerer. This was intended to be the origin story for a antagonistic rival for the PC sorcerer.
@gregslingland3576
2 жыл бұрын
Plus, I’d be fine with altering the Pact of the Blade to augment a Monk’s Unarmed Strikes somehow. But that is, admittedly, homebrew.
@maxfawcett143
2 жыл бұрын
@@gregslingland3576 that sounds awesome! I’d love to have players like you in my games lol
@gregslingland3576
2 жыл бұрын
@@maxfawcett143 Thank you. I’m flattered.
@teknobardthewanderer479
2 жыл бұрын
Point of Order to boost fighter/warlock even more. Warlock Spell slots, action surge, and second wind all recover on short rest. It's the "I just need a nap and I'm good" class combo.
@thecosmicparade
2 жыл бұрын
My current favorite build I’ve made is a Druid warlock combo. From a summoning standpoint having wildfire spirit and pact of the chain and then one of the summon spells it’s really fun
@thefakeslimshady8881
2 жыл бұрын
My cleric warlock was allowed to use int as the warlocks casting mod and I made them sort of a keeper of forbidden knowledge. Mechanically they were a goolock/knowledge cleric with a focus on psychic damage, debuff spells, and knowledge spells
@Jerryturtl3
3 ай бұрын
I totally love my warlock artificer. The mix my dm has allowed me to do makes combat absolutely fun
@M9Seradon
2 жыл бұрын
Bro, you are underselling the hell out of the sheer synergy between the warlock class and the sorc's metamagic features. Even ignoring coffeelock, a warlock taking just metamagic adept is gonna have only two sorcery points until their next long rest. A warlock taking a 3 level dip has 3 sorcery points and the ability to top them off whenever by burning a pact magic slot (which you'll just get back on a short rest). That simple interaction makes more costly metamagic options such as quickened spell or twined spell a lot more enticing for the build.
@unwashedplum
2 жыл бұрын
I've made a Hexblade Undying Warlock with a few levels into Grave Cleric, and despite the multiple attribute dependency, they can still dump out a pretty decent amount of damage in one turn. Considering they are a Shadar-Kai from the new Multiverse book, they also have a pretty decent amount of mobility and survivability. It's not the greatest power build possible, but it's a pretty decent, well-rounded build so far.
@Cinematicjosh
Жыл бұрын
If we die this week I want to build a grave cleric with a Warlock dip serving Altzmyr… what Deity is your character serving?
@codewordbw3340
2 жыл бұрын
I have actually made a character that is a Level 14 Fiend Warlock/6 Gloomstalker Ranger. I wanted to make the best sniper in the game, so they can be invisible in trees, snipe you from hundreds of feet away with sharpshooter and Improved Pact Weapon to get a long bow, as well as Eldritch Smites can be added on to any attack, not just melee. And then they also have the hurl through hell ability to do an extra 10d10 to non-fiends. And then they have misty step as well as a climbing speed with the new ranger stuff, so they can get away from any enemy that tries to find them in their hiding spot
@daek1939
2 жыл бұрын
This is a big help in my decision making for my character sheets, thank you! Please keep up with the tier videos
@bigbugabuu
2 жыл бұрын
I'd like to argue the barbarian multiclass. It would provide a significant boost to survivability especially if you cast aoa before rage making you difficult to put down
@LoreMaster1997
2 жыл бұрын
At 20:17 you startled me out of my nap
@graxal8076
2 жыл бұрын
With the warlock/wizard, just going up to 6th level in abjuration, the armor of shadows invocation gives you an at will, no resource needed hp pool that can be used for yourself or someone else as needed. And if you go 10/10 level split, you get counterspells and dispel magics that give you a free shield that you can use around the battlefield while being a warlock that still controls the area of combat.
@petarzeravica1661
2 жыл бұрын
I got the booster yesterday and my left arm now feels like it's in the fields of punishment in tartarus. Yay cloud shots
@ashtonfox2264
2 жыл бұрын
Something I noticed you might have missed. A rogues sneak attack goes off as long as an ally/ foe of the target, is with in 5 ft of the target. You can make a ranged sneak attack with a long bow at max range as long as you don't have disadvantage.
@nickpossum3607
Жыл бұрын
I'm playing a Noble Genie Warlock from Unearthed Arcana, and Rune Knight multiclass in a campaign with my friends. I haven't progressed very far but I can't wait untill I can cast reduce on my enemies, pop enlarge skill on myself, and then I can punt them like a football!
@zigtailzapper3723
2 жыл бұрын
Warlock I believe is the best spellcaster multiclass for Barbarian. They have a lot of non concentration spells and very few slots, so the few times you do cast spells, they’re very potent. Armor of agathys or crown of stars are very handy on a Barb
@kwaksea
2 жыл бұрын
Wait, which subclass are we talking about? Hex Blade, Arch Fail, Great Stinge One, or Field? I think Fathomless' Tentacle of the Deep is great use of Bonus Action
@OffbeatOutlaw
2 жыл бұрын
We are considering all the subclasses as well as considering specific scenarios with specific builds.
@Lacutis01
Жыл бұрын
Currently level 5 Hexblade with Pact of the Blade, I'm thinking of dipping into 1 level of Wizard for the 2 extra level 1 slots for Hex and Shield, as well as ritual spells like Find Familiar (for RP reasons) and Identify etc. I'm the only arcane caster in my party so i think the extra utility would help greatly, plus Arcane Recovery lets Wizard recover some slots on a short rest like Warlock does.
@demonderpz7937
2 жыл бұрын
In combat, I think sorlock is very strong not because of coffeelock, but because of eldritch blast+ quicken spell eldritch blast. By 17th level you have as many attacks as a 20th level fighter (assuming they only have one weapon and aren't two-weapon fighting) using action surge, and you can repeat this several times. Mix this with a first turn hex and the agonizing blast invocation, and you suddenly deal really great damage. It's functionally similiar to going 2 levels into fighter, but significantly stronger because you only need charisma to make it work. Not to mention, if you go more into sorcerer than warlock you get access to a much wider variety of spells, control, and my favorite mix personally is divine soul sorcerer with celestial warlock because it gives you all the utility you could ever need to support a party.
@goisles6728
2 жыл бұрын
One important subtlety you’re missing about Barbarians: just because they can’t cast spells while raging doesn’t mean they can’t use spell slots! Hexblade and Celestial Warlocks both benefit greatly from a Barbarian dip. Here’s a common Ragelock tactic: Round 1: Cast Armor of Agathys, then rage. AoA is a non concentration spell, so it definitely stays active while raging. Plus, rage resistance allows your AoA to last waaay longer. Round 2 onwards: Pick a melee reliant enemy and wear them down with a combination of good Barbarian offense and Armor of Agathys/Rage defense. Should you crit, use your remaining spell slot to Eldritch Smite.
@Deadlifts_N_Dragons
2 жыл бұрын
I know people have already probably said it, but Warlock/Barbarian, a.k.a. "Shadow Tank", is not as awful as it may seem. In fact, I think it's quite a force to reckon with. It doesn't play the same as a regular Warlock, however it gives you a magically enhanced tank, with crowd-control and damage-over-time capabilities. The Dnd Shorts youtube page did a video on it along with other underrated multiclasses, but I'll give the sparknotes version. Spells that don't require concentration but benefit you in combat (Armor of Agathys being the best one), as well as the Warlock Invocations like Cloak of Flies, Lifedrinker, Eldritch Smite, and Relentless Hex (if you're a Hexblade Warlock) makes you a gnarly force to be reckoned with. On top of that, if you pick up the popular invocation Devil's Sight, as well as the Sentinel Feat, you can cast Darkness on yourself and lock a creature inside of it with you. Considering you have a larger amount of hitpoints than a classic Warlock, you're most definitely walking out alive. Granted, you can't rage and concentrate on darkness, but if you have an ally that can cast darkness on you, you're golden!
@mentalrebllion1270
2 жыл бұрын
My recent experiment into multiclassing warlock is actually with a single level of twilight cleric. I find it supplements really well for the more darkvision heavy campaigns I have it in and sleep is really good at those early levels. By choosing a warlock subclass that provides spare the dying, you can actually be really helpful there too. Now, to be honest, I prefer my warlock subclass to be genie. This is just more because I like the dynamic there better than other subclass options and having a genie vessel is just awesome. I also tend to beg for a broom of flying from my dm every time to the point they toss it in if I play a warlock these days. So basically I play that stereotypical image of a witch with a lantern on their broom. At least once I have leveled my warlock class up in genie to make it so I can bring my party into the genie vessel and basically turned my broom into a passenger airplane this way. It was hilarious but hey, it moved the plot along and allowed my party a rest so the dm allowed it. Anyway, yeah, I pick most of my combos for warlock multiclasses by just what sounds good for rp reasons and is still functional to the party. I have to say that, in play, I have had the most fun with genie warlock and a single level of twilight cleric. That character is a kenku named Pancake who has proficiency in, you probably guessed, cooking. I made him exclusively after my gloomstalker died and my party and I were opening a bakery with a property we had earned earlier. So yeah, this was more for rp fun. I also gave him pact of the chain. It was quite fun. His pseudo dragon familiar, Cookie, would regularly raid the baked goods but was a beloved mascot of the bakery so no npc was too mad about these antics. It was all quite hilarious.
@farorbull1735
Жыл бұрын
Note about sneak attack, sneak attack also takes place at if you are using a bow, which level 2 Hexblade does give you access to.
@MrMoggl
Жыл бұрын
Barbarian And 5 Levels in Warlock - pact of the blade is actually good. You can use Eldritch Smite while raging for big Dmg, and you could use armor if Agathus to get a big thp buff and putting out dmg. And you have a lot of out of combat stuff
@robbiesrevelations3096
11 ай бұрын
But with armor of agathys, and the vampire spell, you can bolster up the rage mage. So by focusing on stuff that reheal you, strong reactions like hellish rebuke, and even fireball would be nice before you go into rage. And obviously play the rage mage, by being Wild magic barb and Warlock
@jacoblindsay2942
2 жыл бұрын
There is nothing saying that you can't use eldritch smite and divine smite on the same attack, so a hexblade with a few levels in paladin could do the following with the following: - Be 18 levels Hexblade Warlock and 2 levels Paladin - Greatsword Pact Weapon - Hexblade's Curse - Thirsting Blade - Eldritch Smite (5th level warlock slot) - Divine Smite (5th level warlock slot) - 1d8 Undead or Fiend Smite Target - Great Weapon Master Feat - Optional: Half Orc crit bonus 3d6+22 slashing + 5 necrotic +12d8 radiant +12d8 force You can do that again at the end of a short rest and have a couple of 1st level slots for emergency shields or cure wounds.
@apartoftoomanyfandoms9066
2 жыл бұрын
Can you make a tier list Playlist
@OffbeatOutlaw
2 жыл бұрын
Sure
@apartoftoomanyfandoms9066
2 жыл бұрын
@@OffbeatOutlaw Thank you
@nessesaryschoolthing
2 жыл бұрын
One interesting feature of Druid/Warlock multiclass, Moon Druids can spend a spell slot to heal themselves as a bonus action while they're wild shaped. It's not quite as good as using it to just cast Cure Wounds, but it's a bonus action so that's pretty nice. Chain Warlocks have an invocation called Gift of the Ever Living Ones that maximizes any healing done to them to the highest roll possible, as long as their familiar is nearby. This might be more of a Druid who multiclassed into Warlock thing than a Warlock who mced into Druid, though
@demonderpz7937
2 жыл бұрын
You said sneak attack requires you to get into melee. What I think you mean to say is that a sneak attack requires you to be using a weapon instead of casting spells. A sneak attack specifies using a ranged weapon or a finesse weapon and therefore requires a weapon attack. This works really well with the pact of the blade route for the warlock, and there are a lot of invocations for the warlock that compliments rogue very well, but at that point, it's less focused on the warlock and more focused on the rogue. I would argue that certain subclasses of the rogue are infinitely better for a warlock than others: for instance, arcane trickster requires too many stats to be good with a warlock, but mastermind would allow a warlock face to do extremely well in a more rp-centric campaign setting, assassin's level 3 ability assassinate allows any attack on a surprised creature to be a crit which would include eldritch blasts or spell attacks, thief's fast hands ability works well with scrolls, wands, or other magical objects which can synergize well with a warlock depending on the gm, and swashbuckler hexblade could be really strong (but swashbuckler with anything else would probably be garbage). I agree with your rating, however, I really like dipping into warlock with a rogue for one with the shadows and mask of many faces, and I understand the point of the video was mainly mixing in predominate warlock, not mixing in predominately other classes.
@boangherrazvan3977
Жыл бұрын
My Creation is a Tabaxi Rogue Warlock archfey combo. Cunning action to get away+ tabaxy feat to double the speed + archfey teleportation invisibility if you get hit .+ eldritch blast pushing enemies away 10 feat per hit. Good luck catching him ever and at lw 10 you are immune to charm and can return it on the enemy if they try it.
@cobbwebster
2 жыл бұрын
I don't know if anyone one will see this but I think the best multiclass for monk is ranger. Best argument to make for that is maxing wisdom is vary potent specifically with Astral self monks, grabbing first level feat level feat for unarmed strike damage increase. Then for ranger, gloom stalker or even fey wanderer, you might get a serpents tongue or even increase dps ten fold. Swarmkeep, horizon walker, and fey wanderer get bonus damage for attack rolls. Not to mention getting a spell list. You'd become a God their explorer and skirmisher. This song I praise monk for multiclassing with ranger as God tier
@commanderzulu4724
2 жыл бұрын
If you go Astral monk and ranger, it would probably be worth getting the druidic fighting style. That way you can get shileighly. Use your wis mod for your main attack and damage while helping you overcome most resistances by doing force damage. Plus you could get a utility or flavor cantrip to complement your build. Getting guidance as a way to flavor your advice to having a statistical impact or getting primal savagery as a call back to something in your backstory. Lots of fun getting some cantrips can be for your build.
@LucanVaris
Жыл бұрын
I'd say that the Warlock/Rogue multiclass settles as around A-tier for me, but only for one reason: Hexblade/Swashbuckler. Sure, most of the other subclasses don't mesh well enough, but Hexblades are essentially allowed to play the battlefield however they want, whenever they're paired with Swashbuckler. You can Eldritch Smite a lone enemy (with a Sneak Attack kicker), you can dash backwards and land Eldritch Blasts, you can Booming Blade, then dash away with help from Cunning Action and Fancy Footwork, like... the possible combos are endless. Plus, that +Cha to Initiative is just _crunchy._
@scottduff3005
2 жыл бұрын
If you multi class warlock with assassin rouge you get the steady aim feature letting you get sneak attack damage on eldritch blasts which even at only 2d6 extra damage any level one warlock can do 1d10+2d6 damage consistently plus adding in hexblade gives you the hexblade curse which lets you crit on a 19 which can double that damage amount so it’s not too bad in my opinion and if you are a hexblade you can use this feature when you are next to an enemy to do the same thing with your sword it’s a very fun mechanic that I would highly recommend
@OffbeatOutlaw
2 жыл бұрын
You cannot apply sneak attack to spell attacks so this would not work, you also can only apply the damage anyway once per turn. So even if this did work you would only increase the damage by 7.
@scottduff3005
2 жыл бұрын
Ah thanks I always think of it as ranged attacks it still works for hexblades ig but not as useful anyways enjoyed the video lots thanks for correcting me!
@MrLemon-tj2zn
Жыл бұрын
Not sure if this works or not, but it seems that rules as written you could go 2 levels into hexblade warlock, then rouge all th way after, at warlock 2/rouge 3, you could pick up the thirsting blade invocation. You could also go five levels warlock, (or play a race that gives you darkness for free) and take the devils sight invocation, cast darkness, advantage on attack rolls, sneak attack, amd booming blade.
@dislikebutton9571
Жыл бұрын
I actually think Artificer/Warlock could be really good with the right build in mind. Armorer artificer gets you heavy armor without needing strength, the thunder gauntlets let you soft taunt enemies to draw fire to you, and then warlock gives you armor of agathys to punish them for hitting you and pad your hp, plus hellish rebuke and other great retaliation spells. Could make a really cool tank build with that multiclass, might have to try it.
@DemonAbyss10
Жыл бұрын
So, another thing to add about the bardlock multiclass. You can make a smite build out of it with college of whispers 'psychic blades' feature. You can stack it with eldritch smite. And get all the other bardic goodies that come with it.
@alexpratt8533
2 жыл бұрын
Love these videos. Would you consider making an artificer multiclass tier list? You don’t cover Artificer much, but I’m curious to see what your opinions are on multiclassing with it.
@OffbeatOutlaw
2 жыл бұрын
I eventually want to get through all the classes so yes!
@electrochipvoidsoul1219
2 жыл бұрын
Specifically, hypothetically, a Circle of Spores Druid makes a Celestial Pact... Necromancy, even more healing spells, and Wildshape...
@zachwolf7545
2 жыл бұрын
Once played a Corgi Archfey Warlock/Oath of Ancients Paladin dedicated to the fae Lord Corgnelius, and being the goodest boy. Was a ton of fun and just thematically nice Reskinned tabaxi who was small, flavored him as an awakened corgi who was awakened by his lord for being a loyal steed for many years.
@vilehero3621
2 жыл бұрын
Monk has early evasion feature plus if you have a jag for a dm if you cast with enemies near you get attacked your never without weapons. Dodge as bonus.
@vilehero3621
2 жыл бұрын
With barbarians have a good listing of cast and forget. Like at least the armor.
@vilehero3621
2 жыл бұрын
My bad just now cracked the book but if you don't want all the warlock lvs it take 7 for the evasion which sucks but at 6 if you choose shadow you have a pesky teleporter in dungeons for the shadows they don't tell you limits soooooo ..
@tomraineofmagigor3499
2 жыл бұрын
Monk/warlock is actually an interesting concept for a multiclass as it plays around with the short rest mechanic
@frostkitsunelive7661
11 ай бұрын
For people arguing that “RAW, Sorlock could generate spell slots with Font of Magic before naturally getting access to them”, that only applies to 4th and 5th level Spell Slots. RAW, a Sorcerer cannot hold more Sorcery Points than their level, which prevents them from just stocking up on infinite Sorcery Points. The Metamagic Adept feat just lets you hold two more on top of the max. So be glad that most DMs decide to remove the cap of Sorcery Points to even allow Coffeelock, because that shouldn’t be a thing normally.
@allenhughes60
2 жыл бұрын
A lot of people are ignoring pact of the blade warlock and totem barbarian. It's so much fun to play because you can use just about any weapon while being very beefy.
@wikiwing348
2 жыл бұрын
I like whispers bard with warlock. Very versatile
@commanderzulu4724
2 жыл бұрын
Hot Take: monk is a C tier multiclass for Warlock My reasoning is that between Ki points and unarmored movement, subclasses other than hexblade can get some good use out of this. The unarmored movement is not much, but will allow them to out run most npcs. And what they can do with Ki points can help them get out of bad situations. Being able to dodge/dash/disengage as a bonus action can be life saving in some circumstances. Plus tge unarmored defense and dex based melee helps them in some niche circumstances or against certain monsters like the beholder. Having a unarmored ac in a antimagic field or in case you are ambushed while asleep it can be impactfull. Obviously it is still low C, but I would say it is better than Barbarian
@MythrilShotgun
2 жыл бұрын
I disagree for a number of reasons. One, choosing Barbarian at 1st lvl nets you 12+Con HP right off the bat, plus Barbarian also gives unarmored defense at Dex+Con+Shield, where Monk doesn't allow that. Two, 1st lvl Barbarian gets you Con/Str saves compared to Dex/Str saves that monk give. Not that Dex saves aren't important, but when concentration is on the line, you want con. Thirdly, Monk's abilities *require* melee, where Barbarian doesn't with thrown weapons. Fourthly, barbarian has better proficiencies than monks. All monk has in synergy with Warlock is more attacks (in melee) to utilize hex, and very limited step of the wind. Rage is awful, never gonna deny that, but barbarian has enough over monk that monk gets shit on still. MAD is bad in both cases, though.
@commanderzulu4724
2 жыл бұрын
@@MythrilShotgun rage and reckless attack only benefit melee attacks, so the only thing barbarian gives you is ranged weapons. 2nd I am not factoring in starting your builds as a class other than your main class. So unless you start with Barbarian the only thing it gives you that is worth while is advantaged on dex saves at lvl 2 ranged weapons (which eldritch blast with agonizing blast is better) and rapiers as a melee weapon (since your main build will be relying on chr dex and con) I will admit the barbarian unarmored defense is better, but the monk has a bit more get out of melee abilities which I think is more useful for non hexblade warlocks. For hexblade warlocks barbarian is definitely better since they can fall back on rage if they are in a slog and run out of spell slots, or if they need to be a little extra tanky for a round or 2 if the main tank goes down.
@woutvanostaden1299
2 жыл бұрын
There is a tiny amount synergy between monk and warlock. Pick a dwarf, take dwarven fortitude (let's you heal when you take the dodge action), pick chain with the gift of the ever living 1 invocation (you regain max hp from healing), hope for a periapt of wound closure (auto stabilize and regain double healing from hit dies). So that is 2d8 healing from a bonus action dodge.
@commanderzulu4724
2 жыл бұрын
@@woutvanostaden1299 your mechanics and math are on point, but for the sake of this thread I am not considering feats or races otherwise we would need a full on reddit post to discuss this. Also just to point out, I don't think that monk is a good multiclass option, just that it is low C tier, not D tier in my opinion
@captainpolar2343
2 жыл бұрын
I saw somewhere that fairy rune knight fighter was OP also sneak attack isn't melee only; it can be triggered once per turn while using finesse or RANGED weapons; but it might still be kinda not good
@ardynamberglow3124
Жыл бұрын
Alrighty, I'll be the guy to say it; A good rule of thumb when multi-classing if your looking for optimization, any class(es) that share a stat with your base class is usually going to be a good option. This means Bard, Sorcerer, Paladin, Warlock are good options for CHA casters, while classes like Monk, Fighter, Ranger, Rogue are good options for DEX based classes, or melee combat. Subclasses and feats obviously can influence this role and synergy A swords bard, swashbuckler rogue, with the alert feat is going to have more combat viability in melee then something like a lore bard, and shadow sorcerer. A class may be good on its own, or intermixed in some specialty but not every class is going to function the same as the other when paired up. Barbarian fighter is a good multiclass, but barbarian wizard isn't
@ecmpinho
2 жыл бұрын
You are wrong in one thing. The bard is the second best in counter spelling in the game. The best character to do that is the abjurer after 10th level. At this point, he has an automatic +4 in proficiency bonus to use it, a number that will increase to +6 at 17th lvl. It is expected for an abjurer from lvl 17 to use counterspell with a +11 bonus.
@anonymouslyknown6530
2 жыл бұрын
Warlock pact of chain/ Druid Shepherd is a great combo to spawn a fey animal army! Warlock pact of blade / Star druid Is a good spell blade.
@Garbageday666
2 жыл бұрын
Artillerist artificer and warlock are actually pretty good. Arcane firearm d8 bonus can be added to one of your eldritch blast beams as well as hex. With 18 charisma, level 5, with agonizing blast, has an average of 23 damage assuming 2 hits. Also throw in a fireblast or force blast from your cannon.
@bearded4her864
2 жыл бұрын
counter point to the barbarian multiclass being bottom of C tier: Armor of Agathys. Casting Time: 1 action Range/Area: Self Components: V, S, M(a cup of water) Duration: 1 hour Source: PHB, pg. 215 A protective magical force surrounds you, manifesting as a spectral frost that covers you and your gear. You gain 5 temporary hit points for the duration. If a creature hits you with a melee attack while you have these hit points, the creature takes 5 cold damage. At Higher Levels. When you cast this spell using a spell slot of 2nd level or higher, both the temporary hit points and the cold damage increase by 5 for each slot. This is not Concentration and has an hour of up time after a cast. assuming you take majority warlock levels you are likely to use a 5th lvl pact slot to cast this on yourself giving 25 temp hp that reflects damage upon taking a melee hit and the temp hp is effectively doubled with rage. TLDR 25hp Armor of Agathys feels like 50 from rage and reflect 25 cold damage every time you are hit which is likely if you take barbarian levels .
@OffbeatOutlaw
2 жыл бұрын
Why would the dm try to hit you then. A good dm would cast dispel magic first, or simply ignore you.
@bearded4her864
2 жыл бұрын
also quick note cloak of flies eldritch invocation pairs well with any melee and is also not concentration.
@shehathnoname
2 жыл бұрын
You've inspired me to run my own god campaign, but I'm having some trouble with the class builds for the different god's aspects. I'm in your discord but I'm not sure where to post the divine abilities to get help with matching the abilities and aspects thematically and mechanically to the build. Any info would be awesome!
@ajaafive1384
2 жыл бұрын
7:16 add Enhance Ability to practically guarantee a successful counter/dispel.
@kingwildcat6192000
2 жыл бұрын
My Tier List G: Fighter, Sorc A: Bard, Pally B: Barb (pretty much nock off pally build), Rogue, C: Cleric, Druid, Ranger D: Art, Monk, Wizard,
@DeltaPhoenixHawk
4 ай бұрын
As someone who has a Warlock Bard... I agree. It is by far a great combo.
@scout1641
2 жыл бұрын
I want a monk multi-class video, just to make the mains happy. Also just want a video where he craps on them the whole time.
@nextofquinn8430
2 жыл бұрын
My favourite character I play is an undead warlock dhampir with a 2 level dip in to stars druid. He is a blast to play. He bites. He spider climbs. He doesn't breathe. He changes in to a wolf...AND sparkles when he needs too :P
@RandomInternetStranger
2 жыл бұрын
As a person that played variant human, took the Magic Initiate feat, and did a bunch of other stuff to get like a million cantrips by about level 3, I can confirm, warlock is pretty good and has a lot of spells
@kevthedon6275
2 жыл бұрын
The tier list I was waiting for
@gunndygaming
2 жыл бұрын
Actually, bards are the 2nd best Counterspell / Dispel Magic users in the game. Abjuration Wizards can apply full proficiency bonus to these spells vs only 1/2 for bards and get both spells natively (without having to multi-class or use Magical Secrets). But you are correct that Lore bards are the best counterspeller's from levels 6-10.
@doubledamn2599
2 жыл бұрын
Monk...Monk is a class I love using for theoretical builds. I love it for RP purposes but not mechanically.
@chrisframe2227
2 жыл бұрын
Rogue gets steady aim as well. It’s a little deeper dip but advantage on attacks is excellent.
@jonathonmulka8735
2 жыл бұрын
So on the barbarian I think it does well in one segment. Pact of blade not hexblade. I consider warlocks in this weird spot of halfcaster but they use cantrips instead of weapons unless they use pact of the blade. A 1 level dip into barb for anything that can swing a sword is super useful. (I would keep the C teir but put it above artificer)
@konahrikvolkihar0185
2 жыл бұрын
One Paladin/Warlock multiclass that works really well, other than Hexadin, is actually the Conquest and Undead, in a campaign that isn't dominated by things with immunity to fear anyway
@4217Dano
2 жыл бұрын
One of the best ways to get a good build out of a wizard warlock multiclass is to go Bladesinger and Hexblade. Bladesinger gives you extra Attack, one of which can be a cantrip, and it helps defense while hexblade helps offense
@shealupkes
7 ай бұрын
martial arts is a ribbon feature, a monk's power comes from dedicated weapon and focused aim(if your dm is a doodoo head and won't let you use those go kensei and do it that way) but I agree they're not a good pick for a warlock paladins are not a melee class they're a support class and only serve to bolster the warlock's control capabilities ranger spell list is often overlooked but I agree you need specific subclasses and spells for it to work swashbuckler is the only reason to multiclass into rogue wizard may make multiclassing difficult but the massive variety of spells and potency of its features imo puts it on par with sorcerer also a counterpoint to MADness as a lot of people seem to be confused, the way I see it it should be renamed to many-attribute-dependent as all classes want 3 or 4 good stats: Artificers and wizards want Int>Dex/Str>Con>Wis as they want armor to keep them from getting hit, strong saves to keep their spells up, and to avoid charms distracting them Barbarians and fighters want str>con>dex>wis as they want hit points, enough dex to fill out their medium armor, and also don't want to be mind controlled while holding a telephone pole as a weapon Bards, warlocks, and sorcerers want cha>dex>con>wis for the same reasons as the artificer Cleric wants wisdom>str/dex>con depending on subclass will want to fill out that strength requirement or dex for armor Druid wants wisdom, dex, and con, same as the monk funnily enough paladins/rangers both want good armor and good saves for their spells but at least ranger doesn't have to worry about strength or charisma except for very specific builds
@doubledamn2599
2 жыл бұрын
I love Artificer as s two level dip, especially for an archer with the Repeating Shot, or the IPW Bow.
@CaptainFirefred
2 жыл бұрын
For a moment I was excited, then I realised you only defeated Covid for yourself. Thanks for nothing!
@shaunbastin1663
2 жыл бұрын
Rogue sneak atack works with ranged weapons as well. Hexblade using a bow is just fine
@ColbsterJack
2 жыл бұрын
I was taken aback for sec on the ranking of paladin for warlock but I thought for a ment after hearing what you had to say. And sure, I can agree with that. Warlock increases paladins strength better than the other way around. Since paladin into warlock won't be changing your play style unlike starting with warlock.
@ad982347
2 жыл бұрын
Warlocks are so, so so, versatile I find them hard to multiclass besides just a dip
@joshmargolis1424
2 жыл бұрын
Warlock is such a flavorful multiclass that is frontloaded, doesnt need high charisma to pull off and has short rest spells which make the lack of slots from not investing very manageable
@KnobodieKnight
2 жыл бұрын
Bruh stun lock shadow monk/hex blade warlock is literally a God at mage slaying. Finesse kensei monk/hexblade. Getting that stun in to keep them in hex and getting four-six attacks instead of 2-3 for those curse stacks and hex stacks. Monk is massively good. I literally only play different variations of monklock. Also shout out for using Persona 5 soundtrack.
@grig8310
2 жыл бұрын
I think the problem with the cofeelock is that if your dm rules strictly by the book, you should be able to upcast all your spells even before you unlock the spell slot
@oneleghendo5239
2 жыл бұрын
Astral self monk on its own is really fun.
@simondiamond9628
2 жыл бұрын
Putting Fighter ahead of both Paladin and Sorcerer is definitely a hot take, but it's actually kind of an understandable one. For Paladins (at least for me), justifying a 13 Str. over a 13 Dex. is kind of hard to do, considering that Dex. is effectively the super-stat of 5E... notwithstanding the fact that this kind of build does pigeonhole PC's into a specific build-type (melee tank/smiter). As for Sorcerers, I would normally disagree in a vacuum, but in a real-world scenario, there is some merit to this viewpoint. For starters, some DM's can get grouchy when a PC like this breaks the action economy (which it can happen in the case of Necrolocks, via Animate Dead). Additionally, this build is short-rest dependent, making it dreadful to play if the DM isn't keen on allowing more than 2 short-rests per day (or does something specific to the PC in question to screw with their sleep). Finally on the matter, JCraw did mention that there's an inherent way to "nerf" the concept without banning the multiclass altogether (not that I agree with his interpretation, but w/e): ------------------------------------------------------- "DMs, if you allow multiclassing in your game and someone is tempted to abuse the combination of Flexible Casting and Pact Magic, remember this: one way to read the multiclass rules is that your Pact Magic slots are useless for any non-warlock thing besides casting spells." Source: mobile.twitter.com/jeremyecrawford/status/1029177242985742337?lang=en ------------------------------------------------------- I can kind of get behind the idea that non-martial warlocks are basically ranged control-casters, but as it relates to the Bard specifically, other than maybe College of Valor or College of Swords (to specifically shore up any inherent martial weaknesses there may be), I can't really think of a reason for a Warlock to multiclass into Bard, other than for maybe a 2 level dip at most (since Jack of all Trades is pretty good on its own; espec. for Initiative checks and Counterspell/Dispel checks). I'd rather see a Rogue/Warlock build at that point, if for no other reason than for the Warlock to be able to have a guaranteed way to disengage from melee when needed.
@taylorfriend6787
2 жыл бұрын
Seen some cool combos with devil sight and shadow monk but now you can just use a feat to get it so not worth the monk class, feywanderer ranger with warlock isn't bad cause of stacking wisdom and charisma for certain abilities checks and such, I think there is some interesting play with celestial warlock and cleric for RP and certain subclasses, I'm happy you put fighter in the same ranking as sorcerer because of the metamagics but there are some better combos then just the coffee-lock. Love the video and it gave me so many missing pieces to character concepts I have on the ready.
@kaikelley4528
2 жыл бұрын
Give your whole party an extra 5-20 hit points per character. Cast the 2nd level spell Aid on up to 3 creatures in range, take a short rest over breakfast, and the extra hit points last for 8 hours after casting, no concentration.
@codytucker1752
2 жыл бұрын
barbarian is a good multiclass for hexblade, you just pick up buff spells instead of control spells
@Overload456
2 жыл бұрын
Pretty sure eldritch blast tops out at 4 blasts per cast, so fighter warlock, action surge, repelling blast, push your opponents 80 feet away every turn, 4 from the first class, 4 from the action surge
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