Anton, Jing Yuan, Cyno Every character is lightning damage dealer, and all of 3 of them are mid But in all honesty, at least Anton is much better given the game
@leylintempest1714
3 сағат бұрын
idk, cyno is actually good now after furinas release if you have his best team unlike jing yuan. there are few units that can cover jing yuans flaws but cynos team of furina/nahida/baizhu is actually one of the highest dmg dealing teams in the game cause it utilizes cyno and his signature SOSS to his maximum potential.
@Person_You_Dont_Know
3 сағат бұрын
@@awman5095True! Daddy Anton can penetrate any enemy with his lil bro!
@WutherinWivesRe1969WaifuImpact
3 сағат бұрын
@@awman5095 who is Anton ?
@awman5095
3 сағат бұрын
@@WutherinWivesRe1969WaifuImpact Anton Ivanov 4* character from Zenless Zone Zero, another game made by Hoyoverse
@WierdEnuf4Ya
3 сағат бұрын
The fact that because he's an older stacking unit means he doesn't overcap, Blade also suffers from this, makes him feel even more clunky. It's kind of awkward when you have your ult but you're waiting for LL to act for you to use it. I do hope that one day they're willing to go back and tweak his kit so it's not so restrictive.
@Accountthatexists
26 минут бұрын
The two biggest things I feel like would make jingyuan less miserable to play is lighting lord can go If jingyuan is clowd controlled Lighting lord INSTANTLY goes if he reaches 10stacks Like in 3.0 they could bare minimum give those changes to his kit
@etchbekey
4 сағат бұрын
if only Lightning Lord can have advance forward if it gets full stacks
@zurierre
3 сағат бұрын
I'm always thinking this would greatly help him out
@Kristofy1
3 сағат бұрын
if that was the case, jing yuan could actually be one of the best dps in the game
@mediumsurmoon6283
3 сағат бұрын
Like Lingsha’s rabbit
@jerichosili420
3 сағат бұрын
leaks i believe that with the introduction of sunday based on current leaks, that jing yuan may get buffed, as sunday (currently) can advance forward summons
@justadude189
2 сағат бұрын
@@jerichosili420 leaks bro if sunday can advance forawd summons , jing yuan gonna have his "I am always 2 steps ahead moment"
@darkroast9907
4 сағат бұрын
Xiangling so OP she's now in HSR videos
@ThatOneGuyThatCommented
4 сағат бұрын
across the guobaverse
@keithwoo1846
3 сағат бұрын
OPPA XL AGANE
@sageofsixpaths8392
3 сағат бұрын
Sigh... input the copy pasta here ig
@Indian_gae_boii
3 сағат бұрын
the universe created not with a big bang but because xiangling felt like it, she is infact a 10th dimensional god who wanting experience a simpler life created the entirety of honkai verse, she is the one who made all the aeons and all the worlds, every world we visit in HSR is just a world xiangling created and she made new ones every so often creating human life and granting them culture and civilisation, in the end she settled for a quite disconected world known as teyvat where she lives out her dreams of being a humble chef in a bustling town, going on silly little adventures to collect ingredients for her dishes
@karsonkammerzell6955
3 сағат бұрын
Lol
@lnconstruct
4 сағат бұрын
If lightning lord had AA like numby and not just from ult he'd be pretty good
@AzureDrag0n1
3 сағат бұрын
If LL had 100% action advance at 10 stacks it would be really good and he would still be pretty balanced at lower strength level. It can be difficult to get 10 stacks but when maximized JIng Yuan can easily surpass 10 stacks and they just get wasted. The lack of action advance means he does not scale well.
@andrinaleong4079
2 сағат бұрын
@@AzureDrag0n1 Wait for Sunday who is a summons support.
@magnaortusars3342
2 сағат бұрын
That wasn't confirmed... at all.@@andrinaleong4079
@SolarionEX
Сағат бұрын
Imagine Sunday advancing LL with 5 stacks lmao
@Blackoutdmc
3 сағат бұрын
Jing Yuan's issue, as you touched on already, is a fundamental problem with the L-lord himself. He doesn't act as fast or as often as he needs too. Its easy to get 10 stacks these days. But then you're just waiting for L-lord to strike. In order for Jing Yuan to be relevant again, they need to either give L-lord even more speed the more stacks he has, or preferably allow L-lord to act immediately upon reaching 10 stacks.
@andrinaleong4079
2 сағат бұрын
Wait for Sunday who is a summons support. Maybe he can advance summons.
@fancymustache3793
4 сағат бұрын
yeah lingsha and topaz's summons are actually seperate beings but lightning lord is essentially just jing yuan himself taking an extra turn. its a non summon type follow up that has its own turn instead of a trigger condition.
@SuperShesh2
3 сағат бұрын
"Talent: *Summons* Lightning-Lord at the start of the battle"
@andrinaleong4079
2 сағат бұрын
LL is a summon.
@bluwucat9762
2 сағат бұрын
@@SuperShesh2 I think what they are referring to is when the LL takes a turn while Jing Yuan is stunned, LL will not act.
@fancymustache3793
2 сағат бұрын
its essentially just a follow up (like herta/himeko) with its own turn order rather than an actual seperate being guys I *know* its officially conaidered a summon but cmon
@lcarrier652
3 сағат бұрын
Jing yuan was the reason i started playing the game and the first character i got along with his lc ! i really hope that we have a summon meta so he can rise from the ashes and get the deserved respect hes owed
@a-passerby
2 сағат бұрын
well..... guess who's coming next, as well as whatever 3.0 onwards happens...
@mr.flappers2550
32 минут бұрын
summon meta might happen seeing the new planar set they added
@adamlevine5218
10 минут бұрын
Yeah for better or worse, the upcoming summon meta will make or break Jing Yuan’s status. If summon supports are conspicuously designed in such a way as to disregard Jing Yuan then it’s joever 😔. But if ANY of them have something about “advancing summons” 👀👀👀…
@leylintempest1714
4 сағат бұрын
it terms of aging people thought he was hu tao, but in reality he was ayaka.
@pianopaeonia
3 сағат бұрын
what happened to ayaka? i left after the aranara quest line
@leylintempest1714
3 сағат бұрын
@@pianopaeonia the freeze reaction and cryo as a whole fell off because most enemies are now immune to freeze, characters like ganyu are still useable now in melt teams. but ayaka is different her entire playstyle and kit depended on freeze as a reaction so now shes basically mid in every abyss which has atleast 1 non freezable enemy.
@davidamasceno7737
3 сағат бұрын
@@pianopaeoniacryo in general is not very strong in Genshin nowadays. Abyss always has bosses and mobs with immunity to freeze, melt teams aren't consistent either.
@duongnguyen-s1i
3 сағат бұрын
@@pianopaeonia its not lore wise dont worry but tldr, freeze just fell off so much ayaka cant keep up. her dmg is still insane yes, (she is my first limited and still use her) but fighting a boss that cant be freeze really hurts. ivars also made a vid about her recently and when i saw the title, i was like D:. for me a way she can be buff is like when ur team/combat scenario allows u to trigger freeze, ur team can apply a debuff, this debuff will reduce the enemy resistance to freeze. the more em u build on ur characters, the more potent the debuff and its effect hit rate. cryo characters will get a 100% em conversion to the debuff potency, hydro 65% and other elements 45%. so em can be a niche use on the anemo and hydro characters but em stats isnt wasted on cryo characters, the debuff is stackable
@fr3941
3 сағат бұрын
Wouldn't even consider him ayaka given the fact Hoyo forced cryo out of the meta because ganyu and ayaka were dominating the abyss. Jingyuan was never crazy broken at the start and never really dominated moc unlike ayaka.
@leylintempest1714
4 сағат бұрын
because hes erudition, but he SUCKS at being actually being erudition because of how lightning lord works. if LL was more frequent he'd be way better.
@lillyie
3 сағат бұрын
its weird. erudition is the class used for clearing enemy waves or boss summons but for jing yuan's case, you dont want lightning lord smiting groups of ipc employees as it'll be a while before you get it to do anything again.
@yegaung7095
3 сағат бұрын
Agreed, LL is considered a bounce attack which are best in single target. Just like how Seele is the least Hunt-like of the Hunt Path, Jing Yuan is the least erudition-like of the Erudition Path like you said. And for those two, they’re not the best at either. They can’t function like (or as well as) the rest of their respective cast, but they don’t excel in the other cast either (I’m sure they can 3 star all modes when built to a T but their innate restrictions add more hoops to jump through).
@tsyganko
2 сағат бұрын
@@yegaung7095pretty sure the least erudition like character is qingque, followed by serval. One is destruction in disguise and the other nihility
@yegaung7095
2 сағат бұрын
@@tsygankogood point(s)
@tavinhoo
Сағат бұрын
@@tsygankonope, qingque is just too strong and can be 2 different paths at the same time
@yegaung7095
3 сағат бұрын
Lightning Lord having a fixed max speed and having no way of self advancing are his biggest issues. This is only exemplified when I played this week’s Divergent Universe with him for fun. The blessings makes Jing Yuan gain full stacks in an instant but the fixed speed makes waiting for LL a goddamn pain, especially when the boss is just a weakness break break away or just a few HP shy from ending a phase to stop an enemy ultimate due to how little you can control its action.
@hoangnguyen0721
3 сағат бұрын
Its so funny how Jing Yuan get indirectly buff every patches simply because his kit works with every form of buffs but he's so fundamentally flawed that he's barely playable every patch
@jinx3709
4 сағат бұрын
let's just say, HSR team doesn't give a sh**. Just introduce powerful characters and call it a day.
@Josh-qt5zi
3 сағат бұрын
And that why I planing to jump off after Amphoreus and the Fate Collab
@mediumsurmoon6283
3 сағат бұрын
Money, money, money. And they’ve gone all in on the “IDGAF” with their blatant FOMO business practice. The game has always been this way, but statistically speaking with each patch, the player count and number of jades/pulls drop, resulting in a lower profit margins than before. So, Hoyo got even bolder with their FOMO bussiness model, evidently by the recent abuse of it. Funnily enough, this wouldn’t fly in the PC/console gaming world-it would cause meltdowns and huge drama-but for mobile games, it’s fine. Why? Because everyone else is doing it too, especially since most games on the App Store and Play Store are run by Chinese companies, and that’s their main and proven model that works. The majority of appstore/playstore are dominated by Chinese companies and publishers, so subsequently they all have the exact same bussiness scheme in all of their games. While mobile gamers see this everywhere, and with no one calling it out, they develop a herd mentality or a majority bias. To them, it’s normal, encouraged even, justified by “as long as we can play for free”,-while unknowingly spending more money each year on things like battle pass and supply pass than they would’ve on AAA games or even high-end indie titles.
@jinx3709
3 сағат бұрын
@@mediumsurmoon6283 Very well explained, though I don't think all the games are the same. For example, their own Genshin adds a lot of value to the characters. It's fine when you spend money on a character that you enjoy for years. But HSR was built differently, I sometimes wonder if they made the game solely to pump out as much money as possible.
@Kindi001
3 сағат бұрын
@@jinx3709 yes HSR is really money orienteed game, at least need you keep up with the Meta or Pull an E2 SS1 character to tandem with all content at least one year. with how bad old character especially like JY Blade and how they dont really wanna rebalance it.
@DonQ0
Сағат бұрын
This is the biggest reason why I stop playing the game. When they releases 4* who can ignore toughness I feel uncomfortable. and then I uninstall the game when they released acheron who broke the game even further. That is game breaking mechanics, what is the purpose of toughness when you can ignore it. It just doesn't feel right.
@lillyie
3 сағат бұрын
his viability would be much better if lightning lord took action immediately after hitting 10
@RealJayNice
3 сағат бұрын
Jing Yuan was my first favorite character in HSR. Now I just have him in the back all built hoping one day he gets the respect he deserves.
@luqmanhakim2138
Сағат бұрын
I doubt that since hsr likes to release more and more OP dps. Even feixiao probably gonna get powercrept sooner or later. Then a new dps powercreep character that powercrept feixiao
@Hououin818
4 сағат бұрын
Personally i would just rework his LL to have just 7 stacks but when he reach it LL attack immediately (or just make his skill advance it 25% and ult by 50%) and changed his a4 to "Buffs on JY last 1 turn longer" like how FF e2 used to work in beta
@hqhuy931
2 сағат бұрын
I think they can make it so he's more consistent - 100% lightning lord advance at 10, doesn't erase if crowd controlled - or raise his damage cap by letting the stacks overflow to like 15 or 20 the same way Feixao and Aventurine can overstack. This would at least make him much better in SU and DU because Brain in a Vat charges would actually mean something
@mechchococh.4313
2 сағат бұрын
Herta: Emanator of Erudition Phantylia: Emanator of Destruction Acheron: Emanator of Nihility Feixiao: Emanator of Hunt Jing Yuan: Emanator of Buffs (But did it work? ehh....)
@shadow-faye
Сағат бұрын
The vanguard of the buffs
@wongo6828
4 сағат бұрын
I remember not pulling on Jing Yuan's banner out of pure spite because people were telling me he's more superior than Himeko. Fast forward a year later and Himeko has aged the most gracefully and Jing Yuan stagnated.
@marupurusaivamsi4802
3 сағат бұрын
I was busy during that time. Glad I didn't pull him or maybe sw😂
@WutherinWivesRe1969WaifuImpact
3 сағат бұрын
His LC is more better than him though .
@UltraCookie3000
3 сағат бұрын
omg same! I was holding onto my belief in Himeko like Noelle. How can I say no to a SATELLITE CANNON?
@flying-ship
3 сағат бұрын
I don't remember anyone specifically saying _Jing Yuan was_ better than Himeko; rather, it was said every other 5* dps was better than Himeko. Today Himeko is superior to JY in Pure Fiction, but I'm glad I pulled JY in 1.0. I still play him and while he's not the 'best' in any game mode, he's 'good enough' in _every_ endgame contents - MoC12, PF, AS. I use him everywhere as long as there's lightening weak enemies.
@S0meT3n
2 сағат бұрын
I pulled him because STANDO POWAAAAAH!!!
@RaffoPhantom
3 сағат бұрын
Watch the next characters and relics buff summons through the roof - but Jing Yuan still struggles.
@imtakingashitrn917
4 сағат бұрын
Unc needs a rework. His stacks need to be faster either it scales with the amount of enemies on field or the team can give him stacks (like feixiao) and every time lightning lord has 10 stacks it advances itself forward to not waste future stacks and lose a potential cycle for being too slow.
@wilsongutierrez-estela9797
3 сағат бұрын
Stack building is fast if you have fast bronya/sparkle+tungyu/huohuo. It's just LL is to damn slow
@Kindi001
2 сағат бұрын
yes, the problem is the LL not the How Slow JY is, with Sparkle using DDD + Eagle Set you can respectly get 10 stack so quick even more faster with Tingyun too. but the LL is so lame that i better run Serval with ER rope in PF and still attain those 40k score every time Lightning Weakness Recomend. yes its need crack stat but im using 2 set 2 set anyways and its still funny that 1.0 Serval with ER still able too eepup like Herta or Himeko in PF.
@chadachi3970
35 минут бұрын
I keep saying this everywhere, but HSR needs a Strengthening Quest system like FGO where they release quests for (usually) older characters that buff 1 skill in their kit and not just raw stats. For instance if we were to give JY a SQ he could get something like "at 10 stacks LL get's 100% action advance" and it would be a direct strong buff without touching any numbers. Blade could get something like "when launching attack gains 1 stack of talent" on top of the 1 stack he gets from losing HP, effectively doubling the stacks he gets on his own turn, it would also mean you get 3 stacks with Jade and can do Ult > Basic > FuA in a single instance. Stuff like that, buffs that are interesting rather than just "increase number big damage"
@namelessunnamed6544
3 сағат бұрын
Action Advance for Lenny allowing him to use 2 times in zero cycle is the name of the game he needs
@kmh4076
3 сағат бұрын
The best buff for him would be a support who can give a base speed boost for summons, like Jade or March Hunt but for LL. Because advancing LL directly will be a double edged swords indeed. And this base speed boost should last for a few turns of summons or can be like a special buff round like FF and Robin where after buffing round was activated, all things in Action Bar has increased speed including summons. Probably like semi permanent Asta Ult speed boost.
@kmh4076
3 сағат бұрын
I forgot about LL’s speed limit, this speed buff should also be able to bypass this speed limit as well
@trickmonster7905
4 сағат бұрын
THANK YOU for not calling this “why no one plays” I’m a Jing Yuan main 😅
@judielgabrielmanalo5031
3 сағат бұрын
Im sure a lot of players still play him but….
@trickmonster7905
2 сағат бұрын
@@judielgabrielmanalo5031 hm. I beat AS and Pure fiction with him. Granted I used both Robin and Ruan Mei (and aventurine) but still. A win is a win.
@danielferrieri7434
2 сағат бұрын
The only thing that was held back was Jing Yuan’s ultimate animation.
@c.c.anubis
2 сағат бұрын
Since the banana set buffs summoner units, it's safe to assume that in the future, we will get more summoners and support for summoners. If any of those summoner supports happen to turn advance summons, then Jing Yuan will finally lose "Mid Yuan" title.
@karsonkammerzell6955
3 сағат бұрын
The more we learn about Jing Yuan's 'no rush in anything' life style the more his playstyle looks on brand. I'm convinced at this point that Hoyo didn't make him slow, but gave him a kit and he chose to just take his dear sweet time with it, lol.
@arkunion6646
2 сағат бұрын
I think the biggest drawback is that the Lightning Lord skip it's turn if Jing Yuan is hard CC.
@XoloMictlan
2 сағат бұрын
Thats not so much of a problem with Luocha,Huohuo,Aventurine,Fu Xuan and Lynx offering cleanse almost instantly or a good debuff resist
@Kindi001
2 сағат бұрын
@@XoloMictlan no, its still the problem Huo Huo Luocha clense need trigger at something (50% or at JY turn) for Clense, Huo Huo need you saving her ult, FX is Veil and Aven is Ressistance. if you not clense it immediately they you will skip LL turn, also even you clense it, if you get something like freeze or Imprision JY still get slow down like every other character . So yeaaaaaa need carefull planing
@XoloMictlan
2 сағат бұрын
@@Kindi001 i have been using Jing Yuan since release and i have Aventurine,Huohuo and Gallagher built I usually dont get cc but yeah, getting imprisioned can be annoying (Huohuo can cleanse it if she targets him with his E but still) there is no careful planning in HSR since its a very easy basic game, its more like not getting fucked by RNG
@Saren_5
20 минут бұрын
They should make a kafka for summons that has like an ult that pops every summon at once
@AevyCh
Сағат бұрын
11:00 Apparently it was a "bug" that has been in the game since 1.0. It was extremely rare, so most people didn't notice it until now. They completely removed this feature recently. Jingyuan & Topaz can no longer spill overflow damage into the next wave. This is not a buff, but a nerf.
@alexisfa13
2 сағат бұрын
Yesterday I cleared the apocalyptic shadow with Jing Yuan, and was happy of how much he improved since release, and today I wake up to this video lol
@someoneinasia
3 сағат бұрын
another big problem with jing yuan is he is an old unit, if hoyo is going for summon meta in the future, you can bet they will also release a unit that is basically a better jing yuan.
@janablom823
2 сағат бұрын
Lightning lord and Herta banking hits for the next wave in Pure fiction is a returning bug. It's not an intended mechanic and has once again been removed.
@NNGav
3 сағат бұрын
6:39 you definitely had fun having topaz sitting on the lion
@omgjlmiub
3 сағат бұрын
I really want a summon meta, but even then my Jing Yuan will still be mid
@Lustr1ous
3 сағат бұрын
2:48 That's my general 💀
@FormerEmiliaBestWifi
4 сағат бұрын
If only we can action advance summons... Also I think his multipliers are really on the lower end as well
@howlyy_y
3 сағат бұрын
Just one thing, Robin was also an upgrade for JY and people play her with him over Sparkle
@bvnbvn7654
3 сағат бұрын
I wouldnt say he's struggling though since he has always been a meta tier character (maybe not Tier 0 but still in the meta). I still use him and he has always been very fun to use!
@pulledporc5334
Сағат бұрын
He's also one of the older units that can actually get hurt when the game mode buff is turn advancing because it can knock back the Lightning Lord's place in line and waste stack buildup if it's already at 10. Clara can also get hurt but getting turn advanced if she has ult charges up, bc they can expire if she takes to many actions before they proc.
@architect_avian7329
Минут бұрын
ngl I was thoroughly distracted by the fact that a video about my favorite character has the sound track to one of my favorite Fire Emblem games running in the background. I started playing the game for Jing Yuan, and was so happy I could pick him up on his rerun as that's about when I started playing the game and have happily mained him since. Those aside, the comment section has already thoroughly stated my issues when playing him.
@meliodad2422
Сағат бұрын
It saddens me that because he was released so early, despite being the general of luofu, his dps leaves much more to be desired compared to feixiao😢
@TacticalDimples
Сағат бұрын
His damage isn’t the problem, it’s his LL. Even Himeko who was released before him acts immediate upon reaching max stacks.
@elfawne
Сағат бұрын
I hate that whenever they release supports for old characters to revive and make them updated to new contents (Sparkle, BS, Jiaoqiu), HSR always almost immediately powercreep them with new characters that need way less investment
@tzxyuaesthetics9338
3 сағат бұрын
i think jing yuan is doing fine. he's my fave character so i use him all the time. his best team with robin can usually 3-4 cycle moc but it's not as comfortable to play as other teams (and on top of being comfortable those other teams 0 and 1 cycle with ease) and jing yuan's robin team requires more thought than some of the braindead meta teams. he's good but they've made 2.0 characters miles ahead in convenience and screenshot numbers so i get why if you're not dedicated to his anime improvement arc you would drop him for other characters. hehe nawt me though i will pull every marginal jing yuan improvement till the end of time
@mr.mtfvsgaming3767
2 сағат бұрын
The only buff he really needs is like an edit to his passive saying something to the effect of "Gain one stack when X thing happens" and "Lightning lord takes action immediately upon reaching 10 stacks" Like just make Lightning lord an instant attack when fully stacked and he would go up in usage a lot
@genevie1998
28 минут бұрын
I'm just imagining the potential possibility of hoyo making a harmony unit that advances forward summons in the 3.0 versions that just suddenly makes him top tier or smth
@Atlas-ig7zs
3 сағат бұрын
It would be nice if lightning lord act immediately after reaching 10 stacks
@avatr4295
4 сағат бұрын
At the end of the day the initial kit needs to be somewhat front loaded to stay ahead of the curve. I'd argue that Seele had a better kit to begin with and the addition of newer units like Sparkle has only improved her longevity.
@sakutaro3musik486
2 сағат бұрын
Acheron has backloaded dmg I think the Problem is for 1 the dmg numbers 2nd how often can you deal that backloaded dmg. Because LL is so slow you can only once Attack with him in a cycle while his dmg numbers are super low. Acheron deals more dmg, can break even enemys without electro weakness and she can deal that dmg more then once as long as you can Apply enough debuffs
@brycecai4700
3 сағат бұрын
I would probably say CC is detrimental to him since it will cause the thunder lord to skip it’s turn, but CC kinda counters every dps unless you build 100% effect res The main problem for jingyuan is that The thunder lord is way too slow and uncontrollable, it hits like a truck, but it can only move at a fixed speed at maximum 10 stacks, you cannot use sparkle, bronya on the lightning lord and it doesn’t have any self turn advancement like numby (also numby can attack even when topaz is cc’ed, one more point for the pig)
@duyanhhoang8313
3 сағат бұрын
its okay surely they'll release a Harmony character that buffs summons
@predation6456
3 сағат бұрын
Bruh genshin 4 star build different they get buff every patch 😂 I can't take anymore xiangling.
@onidan7
50 минут бұрын
I think if we get a set or unit that pushes forward summons then that would make him meta. After all, Lightning Lord hits like a truck, the problem is that it takes too long. So if we could get a way to stack and advance him faster then that'd make Jing Yuan more viable. Like a Bronya for summons or a set that speeds up summons the more stacks they have. I don't know how Lingsha works but it wouldn't make a big difference for Topaz since she just needs 2 follow-ups for a Nunby turn
@Kingamer521
3 сағат бұрын
Just give our general "Lightning lord acts instantly when the Lightning-Lord's hits stacks reach 10 or more", and don't cap it at 10. he literaly is the only one that has that cap.
@pillowhead4456
47 минут бұрын
That comment on Qingque was personal
@elio610
2 сағат бұрын
Literally remove king yuans stack cap and he will be busted im begging you hoyo it should be so simple
@ibrahim5463
33 минут бұрын
I genuinly think that version 1.2 was the breaking point of star rail meta and charechter desing, its when the devs went out of the rails and started going crazy with their desing, if jing yuan or blade came out in 1.5 or 1.6 they would have been completly diffrent charechters than their current ones
@geebeepman
2 сағат бұрын
I've heard there'll be "summon meta" on the next planet which might also mean that jing yuan will also get indirectly buffed once again. if this new meta will be anywhere as broken as super break then this could be big for him.
@zeakkyusoku5471
3 сағат бұрын
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@gazakana
17 минут бұрын
Acheron and jingyuan are practically the same Lightning hypercarrys with heavily backloaded damage So it's very simple, acheron not only has a stronger base kit but also characters who can fast forward that backloaded part of her damage, while jingyuan only takes the crumbs of other characters like IL's sparkle or a sustainer that only gives 12% crit rate
@Saren_5
6 минут бұрын
And she doesn't have a summon but an easy to proc ult and a good design around nihility JY is just an hypercarry with the special gimmick of the summon that is kinda on the way when it comes to the erudition playstyle it like playing dot without kafka and having to wait the dot to pop but unfortunately we have yet have a "summon popper"( it sounds so bad but you get what am saying)
@vincentlau6325
3 сағат бұрын
Make it so lightning lord's attack becomes a boss killer rather than an AOE. Fitting given his Hunt pathway (technically speaking)
@jaym.g.5789
55 минут бұрын
They'll just release a Hunt version of him for our $$$
@hallyuniverse
Сағат бұрын
8:18 he's not most buffed in terms of lowest to higher power-level change, he's most buffed in terms of how many things have been added to the game that directly benefit him. Luocha and Fu Xuan (for cleansing/CC immunity + SP generation) > Topaz > FuA Relic Set > Huohuo > Pure Fiction > Sparkle > Robin > Summon Planar Set. He's consistently had one of the best Erudition Light Cones at least though.
@madrain9898
3 сағат бұрын
As a Jing Yuan stan, I do have to say that he has improved a metric TON from his base form. I think robin and sparkle are the 2 biggest jumps in power for jing yuan followed by the FuA artifact set. Before Robin I was out here barely getting 5 cycles in MoC, now I do it in 2 cycles against kafka with 40% lightning resist. If I had E1 robin I think I could probably do a 1 cycle which in my opinion does make him relevant today with massive investment similar to Seele. He's like a big ol panda, you give him enough care he grows beautifully. Only thing he truly sucks in is Apoc, you just need robin and sparkle otherwise LL goes from 600k all the way down to like 200k, so RM is not an option unless your going sustainless.
@soloinutile
2 сағат бұрын
I think they are going to create a summon meta in the future by introducing a unit that can actually work for summons, only way it can save jing i think?
@thetruestar6348
2 сағат бұрын
He NEEDS to be up updated to work like current summon/FUA characters
@tintedplot96
3 сағат бұрын
All he needs it a harmony support that advances summons. His no sustain team would probably become one of the strongest teams in the game. And his team with a sustain would become very competitive, not as great as the big three but I can see him matching ratio and yunli
@_noturcheez_2898
2 сағат бұрын
The way u describe qq lc in a calm manner 😭😭
@kinshuk2419
2 сағат бұрын
let me guess the problem: Lightning-Lord
@blaze.L
2 сағат бұрын
I play Pokémon I hear xiangling instead of chingling, I play HSR I hear xiangling, I listen to some random KZitem video about Genshin 5 stars I hear xiangling. ☠️☠️
@Fanaelialae
2 сағат бұрын
If we get a character that can advance summons, he might get a lot better. I summoned for him and i really wanted to like him. The General is really cool IMO. But as a unit his kit is internally anti-synergistic (slow summon that has to wait an entire other turn if CC'd) and he's lacking in synergy with other units. His team is busy pulling him out of the abyss that is his kit, while other DPS have teams that elevate them to new heights. He's the one unit I wish I'd skipped.
@Mysteltaint
2 сағат бұрын
Every time they try to buff the Strategist General, they end up buffing the Strategic Investment General Manager twice instead.
@ignacioperez5479
2 сағат бұрын
I think once they add a character that can speed up summons, he could get a new place
@Vulkrein
3 сағат бұрын
The moral of the story? Back loaded damage is shit. DoT teams would be in the same spot as Jingyuan if Kafka didn't exist. The only time back loaded damage would be preffered is if you somehow wanted to minimize the amount of times you attacked, which is usually never. Maybe in the future if more multi instance counterattacking enemies are introduced.
@aceofspades7220
36 минут бұрын
Legend has it he might be buffed again and actually be strong with a new character
@something8886
Сағат бұрын
If they release a harmony unit that buffs summons or action advances summons then yes i think Jingyuan would finally have a place in the meta
@Mooshed_
3 сағат бұрын
Tldr : Jing Yuan needs a rework; not just because he has been powercrept, but because he is fundamentally 'broken' as a (summoner) character. Jing Yuan, unlike newer summoners like topaz or lingsha, cannot aa ll OR even attack with ll when cc-ed. This makes jy unable to even use hs ll to his full potential most of the time, especially since jy is a ramp up character, which goes against the idea of speed in all if hsr's endgame. Why cant he become meta again with 'buffs'? Jy is just not good enough. It is NOT reliable for him to get ll to 10 stacks, and he cant synergise with other fua. In the end, despite however hard you try to get 10 ll stacks, you will eventually be cc-ed, so Jing yuan basically is unable to become good due to his playstyle, So.... *Cries in jy main*
@endieloe8972
2 сағат бұрын
mfw Jing Yuan, who belongs to the mob clearer class, is sweeped by Kafka of the debuffer class when it comes to clearing mobs lol
@chadachi3970
46 минут бұрын
The irony in him getting buffed every other patch is that the buffs are "sizable" yet do almost nothing to improve him overall. --Fu Xuan released and it helped not "fix" his CC issue as she can only block CC once for the whole party, come later and now there are enemies who can AoE CC paired with each other in every piece of endgame content. --Duke released and it was a straight upgrade, but the only attack he has to make good use of the Atk buff is LL and he can also only get the buff from LL. --Houhou released and she cleanses CC on turn and gives Energy but it doesn't count for LL turn, so he can get CC'd right before LL turn, she also lacks the crit rate that Fu Xuan gives which is more valuable. --Sparkle released and while she is one of his best teammates, the difference between her and Ruan Mei was not much at all. --BananAmusement Park releases and while it looks insane for him, if he's ran with Sparkle it gets so diluted that it's hardly even an improvement. Every single buff he receives is still held back by something else, Sparkle holds back Banana, LL holds back Duke, CC holds back LL, Fu Xuan/Houhou are held back by RNG/match up. The only thing that has stayed relevantly good for him is that Tingyun is OP in general lol
@therranolleo468
3 сағат бұрын
I also think the fact that LL's advance is tied to base speed and not action value (like numby) is the a bad thing
@punyapanyapp
3 сағат бұрын
I think you need to go and check what's action value. Regardless of that, both spd and action advance achieve the same thing so the only thing that matters is numbers.
@R2Munro2
8 минут бұрын
No one comments on Vars' excellent choice on Fire Emblem Radiant Dawn music
@Atlas-ig7zs
3 сағат бұрын
They could make a passive ability for characters like lightning lord acting after reaching 10 stacks or resurgance activating after seele ultimate
@EKTOS
3 сағат бұрын
As an old Jy main(well i still use him on moc 8,9 and AS 3) i agree with ur points when Jy released i like his playstyle u use Jy to weaken the boss and clear the mobs and LL is ur nuke for the boss but what happen is LL wait up take too long to matter essentially making him useless while JY himself cant do his job which is to clear up the mobs before LL strike without ult that made it awkward specially when u have ur ult up but ur also have 10 stack and the boss summon mobs(that why u dont ult until the boss take turn and summon his mobs) so ur essentially have a lose lose situation use ult to clear mobs means ur next 10 take will be doom wait for LL mean his dmg will drop thx for having more targets anyway for rework i will say an insta LL turn when 10 stack is better than LL having AV reason is simple LL will take the turn too early for JY to take his turn to stack and clear the mobs i know u can sparkle it but i doubt sparkle can over take a LL with 25% AV everytime JY take turn specially when each turn give LL spd even if we take it out im sure sparkle will be over taken before LL can 10 stack but that's my opinion
@sunplatedfish8255
2 сағат бұрын
I think he low key needs a rework, once LL gets 10 stacks it acts instantly, leavinf no overcapping and giving him a more consintant damage profile, then if they released a 5 star tingyun and you paired them with sparkle you'd have a speedy energy buffed jing yuan constantly sending out lightning lords
@gimbo4025
43 минут бұрын
imo doing more damage would make up for the fact that hes backloaded. but yeah, a way to action advance lightning lord would make him much better. ive always found it odd that his skill and ult are good for multiple targets, but lightning lord does best against one target, which makes him awkward to use. when i use him in pure fiction i end up almost ignoring lightning lord and just spam his skill and burst. it sucks that no matter what you do, lightning lord can only move so many times per cycle
@lewisharvey7969
Сағат бұрын
sunday be a character that can advance summons 🙏🙏🙏
@xeenproof2024
4 сағат бұрын
10:28, God damn, that was in expected
@mm13218
Сағат бұрын
If jingyuan has max stack (10) then doing skill/ult, LL doesn't move forward. Then one day i found funny that LL attacked twice, before the end of wave and at first line in next wave
@custodialethic
Сағат бұрын
Sunday will bring back Jing Yuan trust
@michaelangelo201
54 минут бұрын
Finally! A Jing yuan vars video
@Goldenfire49
2 сағат бұрын
Jing's problem is that E6 Serval is easier to get and performs just as good as he does.
@TwoToo_
2 сағат бұрын
imagine players who own an eidolon and players who invest on a unit for the first time AFTER it gets buffed can receive buffs (actual kit changes or dmg amplifications to match the meta) i'd be down to play jing yuan or the better jing if they got buff'ed. or they make an upgrade eidolon system that costs 20 duplicate thingy shards, aka as much as the copy after E6 for 4 stars only
@tama4997
3 сағат бұрын
he is by far still and will be my fav character and im still using him even tho i got acheron but at this point i really hope he got another path version like danheng
@darkwolf9637
2 сағат бұрын
2:46 the invincible trafic light strikes again
@RaikamiX
2 сағат бұрын
The fact that 2 of my fav characters in genshin and star rail are voiced by Alejandro and still "bad" in both 😭😭
@cloudweaving
3 сағат бұрын
he's so hot everything else is irrelevant what can i say i'm a simple girl
@srijonibardhan8083
3 сағат бұрын
Alejandro Saab, destined to be the most mid electro dps character across all 3 games in the Hoyoverse.
@Rwyiii
2 сағат бұрын
SUNDAY I ALWAYS BELIEVE IN YOU AND YOUR SHENANIGANS WILL COMPLETELY TURN JINGYUAN INTO T0 DPS IN EVERY MODE
@koharuyuuki3162
4 сағат бұрын
The Eula of Star Rail
@niigolover
3 сағат бұрын
That's blade tbh
@zankies8735
2 сағат бұрын
Honestly, if Jing Yuan was added to the pool of standard units that might be another buff haha
@amywalsh8544
Сағат бұрын
I personally think that Jing Yuan will only get better, at least for the foreseeable future. And I honestly think it's a little short-sighted to not see more impactful buffs and support characters, that will benefit him, coming in the future. He's not a character that I have and he's not even a big favourite of mine, so I don't think this is my bias talking. But since the new summon set is only realistically beneficial for him at the moment, and the rumours of the upcoming 'summon meta', his resurgence seems likely. Logically, if there is going to be a support character for summons, one that action advances the summoned unit seems super likely, since that is explicitly something that characters like Robin and Bronya can't do. If this happens, this should fix his biggest weakness as a character. Obviously, he's a 1.0 character, so I don't expect he'll ever be top meta, but I think a big buff in the form of a summon support is highly likely. And while he would still have the problem of being CC'ed, this is something that most characters struggle with and can be mitigated by most meta sustains.
@TheAwesomePal
3 сағат бұрын
An interesting way to buff him and others would be a character that could specifically increase the speed of summons. Would be weird to balance but interesting at least
@wongo6828
3 сағат бұрын
Sunday.
@lewsee5562
3 сағат бұрын
Recent leaks have shown a harmony support that can advance summons, and it's most likely Sunday. Hoyo is planning to expand the summon archetype, and it starts to show with the new planar set that requires a summon.
@TheAwesomePal
3 сағат бұрын
I don’t really look at leaks so I didn’t know. Prefer to be excited as things are announced
@fr3941
3 сағат бұрын
@@lewsee5562 Leaks have now shown that LL isn't counted as a summon
@Kindi001
2 сағат бұрын
@@fr3941 if LL isnt count as summon then the New Plannar is worthless on Him, then is really an big L for JY LOL. at this point give up leave him as dusty unit that wont work like boomer character because cant keep up with recent Meta. yes if you care only for a Meta, if you play for the VA Voice design, any delulu you have for the character go for it. most content in this video talking JY as Meta wsie to clear the content
@atmoszfera6593
Сағат бұрын
Maybe Sunday will help him. I heard something like that he is a summon support and not FUA support
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