I appreciate the fact the Dr. Frank is finally engaging with good and informed catholics like you jimmy.
@twitherspoon8954
3 ай бұрын
Should cannibalism and propitiatory human sacrifice be condemned or worshiped?
@teejah7785
3 ай бұрын
@@twitherspoon8954 if Christ gave permission to be closer to Him, who are we to question God's words? I am a proud of my faith as a Catholic.
@twitherspoon8954
3 ай бұрын
@@teejah7785 _"...who are we to question God's words?"_ But it's not "God's words". The Gospels were all written by men and copied from each other. None of the Gospel authors witnessed Jesus.
@twitherspoon8954
3 ай бұрын
@@teejah7785 _"...if Christ gave permission to be closer to Him."_ Wait. Are you disputing that propitiatory human sacrifice is the core tenet of Christianity? You know, that cross thing and John 3:16... Paul created Christianity in 48 AD and this is how he put it: "He who did not spare his own Son but gave him up for us all." (Romans 8:32) "Christ our passover is sacrificed for us." (1 Corinthians 5:7) "God presented Christ as a sacrifice of atonement." (Romans 3:25) "God showed his great love for us by sending Christ to die for us." (Romans 5:8) "We are sanctified through the offering of the body of Jesus Christ." (Hebrews 10:10)
@Kitiwake
3 ай бұрын
Who scored a major point when he said the protestants who leave the Catholic church blame the Catholic church for their failure.
@davidtalley6939
2 ай бұрын
I have the unique privilege of being in the parish with Jimmy Akin. He is a very approachable person.
@sharpsbattle
Ай бұрын
Frank cracks me up. I grew up protestant, I’m not catholic, but since leaving church, I don’t have a dog in this fight. Jimmy is clearly the deeper thinker and has better answers. Protestants like to define themselves by what they are not. The entire New Testament lays heavy emphasis on how you live, but Frank is nervous when discussing works. I like how kindly Jimmy reassured him that yes, we are justified by faith alone. Great discussion gentlemen.
@markcoleman8288
23 күн бұрын
well said
@marcuslow1386
3 ай бұрын
I am glad Frank was so open and generous to hosting Jimmy to discuss this matter regardless of the outcome!
@karleimers5066
3 ай бұрын
Especially when he still harbors some negative feelings over his experiences with the Church and her priests. I think Jimmy’s charitable and reasonable answers made him a little uncomfortable with his beliefs about the Church. Well done, Jimmy!
@jimd4201
3 ай бұрын
I have attended some terrible Catholic churches. I wish they could be renewed, woken up and filled with the Holy Spirit within a lifetime. Sadly, but thankfully, there may have been a protestant church to feed and nurture good people who need and are seeking God.
@remsaga
2 ай бұрын
start of conversion
@EveryHappening
2 ай бұрын
@@karleimers5066Yeah… that’s not true at all. I don’t think Frank was uncomfortable for a single moment. Not sure why you could have interpreted it that way.
@timboslice980
3 ай бұрын
Before i converted to the church, i had studied apologetics for a long time. I had listened to Frank Turek, Michael Brown, Doug Wilson and many others. In all that time, i heard Frank’s complaint about the Catholic church never teaching the gospel. I started attending mass after calling into Catholic answers and talking to Jimmy a couple times. I hear the message of the gospel every single week at mass. Its like Jimmy said, if you dont hear it, you arent listening. Ive never met a former catholic but ive met hundreds and hundreds of protestants who say they were young, wild, restless, and when they started paying attention, their lives changed. Every ex catholic blames the church and not themselves. Whereas every protestant blames themselves rather than the church that formed them. Weird how the catholic church gets no grace like the protestant ones. Ive noticed that trend so mich in apologetics.
@grond21
3 ай бұрын
This was the biggest point for me also. I felt like it was a huge Grace that he kindly but clearly called Frank out for this. I hope his heart opens to the one true church and no resentment or obstinacy holds him back
@jwatson181
3 ай бұрын
This is not the issue at all. You can't in good faith be a catholic if you deny some of their core beliefs. Sadly, I see Catholics do more apologetics to Christians than unbelievers.
@Msc762
3 ай бұрын
We have Daily masses too . ❤
@johnchung6777
3 ай бұрын
Tremendous explanation of truth about Catholics who leave the church and blame the church for their departure when it’s in fact that those Catholics who left the church should be really blame themselves,whooo man you’ve hit the nail right on the head with your explanation thank God bless protect and fill you with an abundance of Truth Graces and Virtues Amen 🙏 🐑🕊️🔥✨
@jawojnicki
3 ай бұрын
I've heard about grace in homilies from Boston to California and everywhere in between! I can't believe that New Jersey is the only state where the priests never preach about grace. It's impossible.
@jamesmonahan9408
3 ай бұрын
I was in mass every Sunday or Saturday. Did I pay attention when I was young? No. Now I completely understand it. Jimmy, very well explained. God bless everyone.
@LauraBeeDannon
3 ай бұрын
I didn't even understand the letters from Paul were in the bible. 😂My parents failed a bit. No fault of the church. Now I'm a catechist🤷♀️
@Griemmy
3 ай бұрын
Mee toooo
@annb9029
3 ай бұрын
Lots of bad catholic education and ccd for years it is getting better now
@Troy701
3 ай бұрын
Impressed by Frank's willingness to listen.
@neverclevernorwitty7821
3 ай бұрын
Not so certain about this, he definitely was willing to let Jimmy speak. Not sure how much listening Frank was doing.
@patrickh6579
3 ай бұрын
To Frank: I would like to say that I too was raised Catholic and have had some awful experiences with certain leaders in the church over 63 years. At one point it became so disheartening that I almost left. I searched many Protestant denominations and met some awesome pastors and followers, but came to the realization that the issues I saw were not singular to Catholicism. If you want change, be the change, and I think you’re really pursuing that path with your open-minded dialogues like this. After 2 years of discernment I stayed with the Catholic Church because of important doctrine such as the true presence of Jesus Christ in the Eucharist and the importance of the Virgin Mary’s role in our faith, to name just two. I also came to the conclusion that Church leaders are not the head of our church, Jesus Christ is and the congregation is the Body of Christ. We have to be an active part in it. Great podcast! Thank y’all for posting it.
@robertotapia8086
2 ай бұрын
@neverclevernorwitty7821 Agree I think he was being kind and being quiet but not listening with his heart. Pray he honestly keeps searching for the truth 🙏🏼 and comes back home ⛪️
@bethjarzombek4742
2 ай бұрын
Former Catholics are some of the hardest hearts to bring home.
@brucebarber4104
2 ай бұрын
@@bethjarzombek4742, agreed.
@joyhenry-dp8nd
3 ай бұрын
Aww, brother Frank, come home! I was a Protestant Christian who joined the Church. Grace and mercy are overflowing in the Church our Lord set up, especially through the sacraments! 💙
@johnbrowne2170
Ай бұрын
It's a church that encourages works over faith and believes in the make believe world of purgatory. Now you get to tell your sins to sinful men instead of God. Good luck with that.
@davidn9518
29 күн бұрын
Welcome home joy.
@davidn9518
29 күн бұрын
@@johnbrowne2170 why do toy do this... you make comments like this on so many other threads. Jesus got it wrong in John 20:23... the Apostles, they got it wrong. But you have it correct?
@johnbrowne2170
29 күн бұрын
@@davidn9518 The apostles told their sins to one another but there is no indication they were forgiven. No such thing as telling your sins to a priest and being forgiven in Biblical days. In fact, the Bible says believers are all priests. 1Peter 2:5-9 and several other Scriptures prove it.
@davidn9518
28 күн бұрын
@@johnbrowne2170 you clearly do not know the Catholic church... a priest can not grant absolution unless attached to a Bishop, a reference to John 20. So you are wrong, once again. #2 only the Trinity can forgive sins. Sadly you dont know what you attack. Try reading the Catholic Cathecism before you bear false witness. It really would help you.
@monavallejo9868
2 ай бұрын
Jesus called me to the Catholic faith. I couldn’t live without him 🙏✝️
@johnbrowne2170
2 ай бұрын
That wasn't Jesus.
@JoAnnFuir
Ай бұрын
@@johnbrowne2170 It was God who called you home. 😊
@macbride33
3 ай бұрын
I remember as an undergraduate, one of the girls at Christian Campus House said something like, "I was raised Catholic my whole life, and I never heard the Gospel until I came here." At the time, I was virulently anti Catholic, and I thought nothing of that comment. I assumed it was true. I now know that CANNOT have been true; it's impossible. Because the Gospel is recounted at every Mass; it's in the text of Mass that must be said aloud every Sunday. But what's true is that she paid no attention to it, and apparently no one drew her attention to it and discussed it with her. And the preaching did not focus on it. So to her, it was all "white noice" that she did not recognize, even though it was right in front of her face the whole time. It's a powerful lesson I've never forgotten.
@maria22623
3 ай бұрын
It's why the Bible was written down, for the Mass. When I learned that my brain about exploded. I think my problem growing up was all the lazy Catholics in my family and all the protestants. If you're not taught the difference it all goes into the same bucket...for me at least that was the case.
@ScreamingReel500
3 ай бұрын
@@maria22623 The reading at Mass is a form of declaration where supposedly only the Priests and Deacon can do it at mass, but now everyone even children or teenagers not up to the task. The Bible can be read at home in private or a group by anyone because is in the form a prayer, not a public worship, the Mass.
@mitchellosmer1293
3 ай бұрын
@@maria22623 it is OBVIOUS you have no idea of what "mass" means. It means "to be dismissed"!!!
@maria22623
3 ай бұрын
@ScreamingReel500 then we wouldn't be doing the actual worshipping part, which requires our presence at Mass. But otherwise yeah
@maria22623
3 ай бұрын
@mitchellosmer1293 as in "go you are sent" to take the fruits of the Eucharist to the world yeah I read the Catechism. I don't know where your comment or the aggression came from when I just added a comment hahaha
@RenatoBellucci
2 ай бұрын
2 of my all-time favorite apologists, sharing the Holy savvy of Christ... Jimmy, help Frank on his way back to Rome; this dialogue was a huge nudge in that direction ... 👏🏻👏🏻
@Playsitloud1
3 ай бұрын
I am actually sad to hear Frank started out in Catholisim. I like Frank. I pray he comes home.
@TheJackjack
3 ай бұрын
He's a liar he said he never heard the gospel of grace in the church cuz he was too busy thinking about being a Protestant so he can beg people for money
@jmac6973
3 ай бұрын
Very Christlike attitude here. Cheers
@waseemhermiz7565
3 ай бұрын
He makes too much money. That's the hardest actual hurdle for most of these guys. It's their livelihood
@TimSpangler-rd6vs
3 ай бұрын
@@TheJackjack You are a jerk
@TimSpangler-rd6vs
3 ай бұрын
@@waseemhermiz7565 are you Judge?
@wms72
3 ай бұрын
Fr Mike Schmitz says he never knew the Eucharist was actually Jesus until he was a teenager. He told his siblings, and they said they knew it from 1st grade.
@Hawka23
3 ай бұрын
Sadly, I went to Catholic school from yr 4 until yr 12 (primary/elementary school until graduation). I was not a person of faith (to be fair), but there were still huge gaps. When I started to look into Christianity as an adult, I heard that Christians believed that Jesus was God. I thought, 'That's rubbish. Nobody told me that at school'. I also learned that Catholics believe in the real presence in the Eucharist. Again, I thought 'I think I would have heard about that'. But no. 9 years Catholic Education and I never knew Jesus was God, or that the Eucharist was Jesus. Something is wrong with Catholic Education.
@TimSpangler-rd6vs
3 ай бұрын
@@Hawka23 Nobody worshiped the Eucharist in the Bible
@vinciblegaming6817
3 ай бұрын
@@TimSpangler-rd6vsI’m curious… where do you expect to see people engaging in ritual worship in the Bible? Because we don’t have any people going to the temple to worship, either. We don’t have a liturgy in the OT or the NT. We only have tangential references to people bring sacrifices to the temple, but no actual outlining of a person committing sin and bringing their sacrifice to the temple. We just have Leviticus that says they should. Exactly where do you think we should have a Christian Leviticus in the NT? Should we squeeze it into disciplining the Corinthians? Or maybe append it to the end of Galatians after Paul finishes telling them to ignore the Judaizers? Maybe somewhere in the logical case for Christ in Romans? Oh… I know… let’s preface the encouragement in the midst of suffering to the Philippians with the rubrics of Christian Ritualized Worship. Well why not it’s own book? Maybe because that’s not what the canon’s goal was - which was to define what READINGS should be done DURING that ritualized worship… and worship rubrics just don’t belong being read during worship. Maybe you misunderstand the purpose of the canon. If you did, you’d understand why it doesn’t include what you are looking for. But the scripture does hint at there being OTHER ways the apostles taught the early Christians… it’s tradition (that the Protestant Bible translations translate to “teachings”).
@TimSpangler-rd6vs
3 ай бұрын
@@vinciblegaming6817 The purpose of the canon is to "teach , rebuke, correct, and train in righteousness"
@vinciblegaming6817
3 ай бұрын
@@TimSpangler-rd6vs right - not as a rubric for liturgy… however the liturgy ALSO teaches. Paul and Jesus say enough in scripture on the Eucharist to at least come to a conclusion radically different than evangelical teaching and we know it’s part of the early church’s worship due to eye witness accounts of the early church. If you wish to separate from that history, fine. But don’t pretend to be sourcing yourself from the early church when you refuse to find out what the early church was actually doing.
@johnbrion4565
3 ай бұрын
Frank please keep talking to people like Jimmy and also consider spending time with Dr. Scott Hahn and Dr. John Bergsma at the St. Paul center in Steubenville. Also great job representing the Catholic position in this interview Jimmy.
@davidjanbaz7728
3 ай бұрын
Keep listening to Frank!!!
@johnbrion4565
3 ай бұрын
@@davidjanbaz7728 what do you mean? I don’t need to be convinced about the truth of Christianity. Frank however is not well informed on the Catholic position.
@bradleytarr2482
3 ай бұрын
If you hear the Nicene Creed recited aloud, then you hear a great and powerful summary of the Gospel message every Sunday.
@Trumblocity
3 ай бұрын
I feel like Jimmy called Frank out without calling Frank out.
@StringofPearls55
3 ай бұрын
I got that too.
@jimmydavid1993
3 ай бұрын
brilliantly
@gunsgalore7571
3 ай бұрын
If you mean the part where he mentioned "Lord I am not worthy that you should enter under my roof, but only say the word, and my soul shall be healed," in response to Frank saying he's never heard the Gospel at Mass before, I agree wholeheartedly.
@Trumblocity
3 ай бұрын
@@gunsgalore7571 That too, but also people who are ignorant of the teachings can't be held accountable for them. Oops 😬. Frank knows. Jimmy knows Frank knows. Now Frank knows that Jimmy knows he knows. 😃 Point, Jimmy.
@HumanDignity10
3 ай бұрын
Yep.
@toddgruber5729
3 ай бұрын
I can’t believe Frank invited Jimmy on his show…I’ve seen 2 times recently! This is so awesome. God is working. Jimmy rocks. I think Frank is super interesting to listen to as well.
@fishermanmike8885
3 ай бұрын
Interesting to me that he wants to hear more from Catholics about grace. Every Mass at my parish starts with, "Brothers and sisters, as we approach the throne of grace..."
@alisterrebelo9013
3 ай бұрын
There's a profound gap in understanding formal and informal ways that grace is imparted. Most of our Protestant friends focus and only consider informal ways to be licit. For example, the most common informal way would be simply asking and receiving grace through private prayer. The Catholic accepts that is possible but also prioritises formal means of grace imparted through physical means such as the Eucharist, the blessing by a clergy member, Baptismal waters, relics of the Saints, holy oil etc.
@l21n18
3 ай бұрын
I found it a little amusing he mentioned going to mass on Christmas and not hearing about grace when the reading from the epistle mentions it in the first sentence if it was midnight mass
@NashonHanselman
2 ай бұрын
@@alisterrebelo9013 Blessing of the clergy is not scriptural...in other words, since they do NOT actual turn wine into Christ's blood, it's just a religious activity, yet LYING to people that a guy in a silly outfit can turn anything into anything else, especially Christ's blood....Again, NO scripture for transubstantiation...Catholics PROMOTE regular, sinful men..... This guy is LYING about indulgences, research history and you will see MANY examples of priests murdering.fornicating, stealing, as well as regular folks etc. but PAYING a certain amount to pay the sin....This guy is not worth listening too, since the middle ages was FULL of this..This is TOTAL whitewashing of the CORRUPTION of catholic churches for hundreds of years and to today....
@enderwiggen3638
3 ай бұрын
Just because Frank went to Catholic high school, doesn’t mean he was properly catechized folks. Normally those like Frank didn’t know the actual church and it’s teaching and left for something lighter like protestantism which was easier to get to know.
@shavaughn1980
Ай бұрын
A lot of Catholics who have left the church and become a Protestant we're not taught their faith properly. They came from families who went some mass on Sundays and didn't talk about God any other time.
@OzCrusader
3 ай бұрын
I am thankful to God that Frank Turek is most gracious and charitable towards Catholic apologist Jimmy Akin. May both men be blessed!🙏
@laurenweber6826
3 ай бұрын
Catholics don’t attend mass for the sermon, unlike Protestants who go to church just for the sermon. For Catholics, the sermon is just a moment where the priest is supposed to reflect on the readings. Catechism is mainly taught at home by parents or CCD “Sunday school” classes. The fact that people leave the faith is proof they weren’t catechized thoroughly
@mckennarussell4510
3 ай бұрын
This was a hard switch for me when I converted, but now that I’ve studied the mass, the depth of grace and power in the mass life altering and I wouldn’t go back to hour long sermons for anything.
@laurenweber6826
3 ай бұрын
@@mckennarussell4510 God bless you, welcome home!
@MrProsat
2 ай бұрын
An interesting difference between Catholics and Protestants. Protestants don't really worship God at their services, it is basically listening to a sermon. Jesus said "do this in remembrance of me", but unfortunately, they don't. The Mass is participating in Jesus' one-time sacrifice to the Father, THE PINNACLE of sacred worship offered to the Father.
@timothyreilly8394
2 ай бұрын
@@laurenweber6826 You don't know what your talking about. You split hares on what reasons people go to church for when all that blather of yours is ignorant, misinformed & dishonest. It's all about faith either way & your faith is false.
@timothyreilly8394
2 ай бұрын
@@laurenweber6826 said the RC cultist.
@RebeccaLynne2046
3 ай бұрын
Sometimes, we don't have the best preachers and not everyone is gifted in that way, but the very first words you hear after crossing yourself are "The GRACE of our Lord Jesus Christ, and the love of God, and the communion of the Holy Spirit be with you all!" I loved this interview! Jimmy, you are such a gentleman. Praying for all to have ears that hear and eyes that see.
@nightyew2160
3 ай бұрын
Thanks for this quote. I was trying to remember it but don't quite have the whole thing memorized.
@RebeccaLynne2046
3 ай бұрын
@@nightyew2160 Of course!
@kragar4
3 ай бұрын
Frank needs to go to Mass and LISTEN to each part. He needs to watch the video of Scott Hahn talking about going to Mass for the first time. I pray his heart and mind would be opened. He focused on the priest’s homily because that is the focus of Protestant service. He neglects to realize the focus of the Mass is the sacrifice of Christ and the gift of the Eucharist.
@Vincenzo-wn1or
2 ай бұрын
Agreed. And at least there is a standardised format to the Catholic service that exposes people to various parts of the gospel and how the old and new testament relate to each other. Regardless of whether the homily is engaging or not. We take away our weekly lesson to reflect and work on for ourselves.
@matthewfleck747
2 ай бұрын
Amen. Too many people don’t even LISTEN to the words said at Mass. Like the Liturgy of the Eucharist, for instance; absolutely BEAUTIFUL language!!
@pawollatounenmoun
3 ай бұрын
I just grew to like Turek more though this interaction. He is a humble and docile listener. It takes great wisdom to be that way. Thanks Jimmy.
@nathanwhite7765
3 ай бұрын
Just wondering but why did you dislike hik?
@claytonhall989
3 ай бұрын
@@nathanwhite7765I’m in the same boat and I personally didn’t dislike him, but rather it seemed like he didn’t represent the views of the Catholic Church well. I’ve watched a ton of videos of Dr. Turek so it’s hard to figure out which of those are from 10+ years ago that maybe don’t reflect what Frank would say today.
@pawollatounenmoun
3 ай бұрын
@@nathanwhite7765I didn’t necessarily. I just like him more than before.
@Lev.EasternOrthodox
3 ай бұрын
Akin is a Protestant evolutionist heretic & will be exposed soon by Robert Sungenis...
@Kitiwake
3 ай бұрын
Very clueless about catholicism
@BrandonG667
3 ай бұрын
Jimmy, your work on justification is instrumental in conversations with our separated Protestant brothers and sisters. God bless you, brother. Praying for Dr. Turek, a great Christian apologist, and his listeners!
@radonaccount4454
3 ай бұрын
How are we “separated”?
@countryboyred
3 ай бұрын
@@radonaccount4454Vatican 2 calls the Protestants “seperated brothers” basically because you guys split from Rome but they still view you as Christian in a broad sense.
@radonaccount4454
3 ай бұрын
@@countryboyred gotcha
@timothyreilly8394
3 ай бұрын
@@countryboyredwell bully for them. I don't need their judgement of whether i am a believer in Jesus christ, as my Lord & Savior. Roman Catholics have nothing to do with my belief. Your not a broker of tickets to Catholicism. All who believe in Jesus Christ as Lord & Savior is "Catholic"
@timothyreilly8394
3 ай бұрын
All Roman Catholic Ecclesia are commanded to lie & lie by their father, the prince of LIES.
@johns.9659
3 ай бұрын
I hope that if you are a catholic who attends Mass you will not only hear of God’s Grace but also be disposed to receive His Grace which is present in the Eucharist.
@johns.9659
3 ай бұрын
@eucharistangel4662 don’t be stupid
@PatrickSteil
3 ай бұрын
Wonderful discussion! More please! The world NEEDS all Christians to be unified in the Truth of our Lord again!!!
@rickfilmmaker3934
3 ай бұрын
Jimmy Akin, you are awesome in this video. Words in the Mass say grace. Awesome.
@bosspaw4028
3 ай бұрын
Frank T is awesome. So happy he’s open minded toward Catholicism. Too many Protestants on youtube talk trash about it. We need to come together. Love my Protestant brothers in Christ.
@Justyouraverageguy172
3 ай бұрын
Protestants can’t be patient and listen to us Catholics because they are incapable of letting go of their pride to actually evaluate their beliefs and listen to what Catholics believe to see if it’s all propaganda or not.
@wilsontexas
3 ай бұрын
That's what the calf worshippers said.
@vastalapasta9739
3 ай бұрын
@@wilsontexaswe don’t worship anyone but God.
@LauraBeeDannon
3 ай бұрын
@@wilsontexas calves are good for steaks but not worship.
@wilsontexas
3 ай бұрын
@@vastalapasta9739 do you pray or talk to anyone who died once?
@MrCusefan44
3 ай бұрын
It’s interesting to compare Frank’s perception that he never heard the gospel message in a Catholic mass, to Scott Hahn’s testimony that the first time he attended a Catholic mass (when he was still Protestant), that’s ALL he heard. That’s a big issue with “Sola Scriptura” - we all bring our own biases, experiences, and beliefs into everything we do, whether that is reading and interpreting the Bible or analyzing what goes on in a mass. But at least Frank does great work evangelizing on hostile college campuses, and he modeled a civil discussion between Catholic and Protestants here. I think he missed a lot of what goes on in a Catholic mass, but that’s not preventing him from being a fantastic ambassador for Christianity overall.
@NathanSkifton
3 ай бұрын
“I don’t like the Catholic Church because it doesn’t give the sermons I like” is a wild way to view the Mass. The Mass isn’t a feel good service the way a lot of Protestant church services have become. We go for Jesus in the Eucharist. They go for a sermon and some summer camp music.
@elguapo1026
3 ай бұрын
As a new Catholic from an evangelical background I am glad the mass has both: Liturgy of the Word and the Liturgy of the Eucharist!
@timothyreilly8394
2 ай бұрын
@@NathanSkifton "You go for Jesus in the Eucharist?" Is that like saying you go for Chinese in the takeout joint? ROMAN CATHOLICS are so ridiculous. Jesus asks the Jews, in the Gospels, to believe in him, in very direct language & also in metaphor form. He says metaphorically: "i am the bread of Life." He also says to follow his 2 commandments, "Love God... & Love thy neighbor..."Etc. That is how you "Go for Jesus.
@NathanSkifton
2 ай бұрын
@@timothyreilly8394 If you narrowly interpret only the parts of Scripture you want, then sure. I see how you come to that conclusion. Unfortunately, it’s not exactly true…I’m not interested in a partial truth.
@alessandroarsuffi9227
2 ай бұрын
@@timothyreilly8394Then Jesus said unto them, “Verily, verily I say unto you, unless ye eat the flesh of the Son of Man and drink His blood, ye have no life in you. Whoso eateth my flesh, and drinketh my blood, hath eternal life; and I will raise him up at the last day. *For my flesh is meat indeed, and my blood is drink indeed.* He that eateth my flesh, and drinketh my blood, dwelleth in me, and I in him. John 6:53-56
@RuslanKD
3 ай бұрын
This was a great conversation
@alisterrebelo9013
3 ай бұрын
Hey Ruslan, when are you bringing Jimmy on?
@patcandelora8496
3 ай бұрын
Come on Frank don’t be a magisterium of one. Come back. In spite of our issues we have today come back. I came back in spite of certain people in the Church not because of them. I was convinced that the way the Church is being assaulted from within and without it has to be true! Among other reasons.
@owl2
3 ай бұрын
Jimmy, thanks for all the work you do trying to reunite separated brethren.
@honestabe4161
3 ай бұрын
Jimmy, thank you for all you do. God bless you.
@riceninja051
3 ай бұрын
I pray for Frank! Before my reversion he was such a help in defending the Christian faith in general, and I am so happy to come back Home to the fullness of Truth. The fact that he is open to this speaks much to me! Lord, please bring this brother back home!
@Lerian_V
3 ай бұрын
Frank and Cliffe Knechtle were instrumental to my reversion after years of consuming Hitchens, Dawkins, Harris, Ravi Zachariah and co.
@JohnFoy-qs5tk
Ай бұрын
Please watch christian teacher dave hunt on wot chatolics believe 🙏
@tonyl3762
3 ай бұрын
Was clever to take the opportunity to point out the divisions in Protestantism from the very beginning: Lutheran, Calvinist, Anabaptist, Anglican, etc. Might have been good to mention Council of Jerusalem in Acts 15 in explaining Trent and Vatican 2. You did a fantastic job representing Catholicism, as usual!
@alisterrebelo9013
3 ай бұрын
The informal truce that exists between the Protestant denominations is built on a collective opposition to the Catholic Church. Even more than Sola Scriptura, the only unanimous agreement appears to be that 'the Catholic Church is wrong' - two of the most unbiblical beliefs.
@JustineBrownsBookshelf
3 ай бұрын
I think people should hear more about Catholic reformers, such as St Thomas More and Erasmus. It’s possible to reform without breaking with the Church.
@wilsontexas
3 ай бұрын
Your definition of the church is catholic and not biblical.
@JustineBrownsBookshelf
3 ай бұрын
@@wilsontexas those are not mutually exclusive terms
@RestingJudge
3 ай бұрын
@@wilsontexas"Father I pray that they remain one, as you and I are one" - Jesus Christ
@wilsontexas
3 ай бұрын
@@RestingJudge christians can't be at one with people who bake cakes for the queen of heaven.
@wilsontexas
3 ай бұрын
@JustineBrownsBookshelf ask a protestant what or who the church is.
@dsmp7
3 ай бұрын
Wow, wasn’t expecting this! Big strides are being made for unity these days from both Protestants and Catholics! I discovered Frank Turek and Jimmy around the same time as a Protestant and since have become Catholic, but I have great respect for Frank and his work. So happy to see these two great defenders of the faith come together for a discussion
@mikeoconnor4590
3 ай бұрын
A great presentation on differences between Protestant and Catholic understanding of justification. Clear and concise Thanks Jimmy
@att9060
3 ай бұрын
My parents were protestants (Baptist) once but my Dad went through Church history thoroughly and we finally joined Catholic
@MartySarmaidoff
3 ай бұрын
The cheek turning is strong with this Akin feller. Three hands offered. Three hands slapped away. Three acknowledgements of weakness. And that's just so far. Impressive humility.
@theamerican4609
3 ай бұрын
What does this mean?
@mr.charlesharvey1582
3 ай бұрын
I grew up Catholic and went to Catholic school for 8 years. When I came to faith, as an adult, my reaction/memory was "why didn't I ever hear this at Mass or in school growing up." Now that I have been teaching theology in a Catholic high school for 8 years and have been doing my best to be very clear and thorough in explaining the faith, the mission of Christ etc., I realize most of the issue growing up were related to me; not my teachers or the priests. Not saying they were all perfect but most of us as kids and teenagers are not listening. It's worse than ever with all the distractions kids have. We have a pretty diverse student population. A majority are Christian (Catholic and Protestant) but Catholic students are not the majority. We also have a significant number of Muslim students. Most all have in common not knowing much about their family faith tradition and having the desire/ability to focus on and retain what we discuss in theology class. Sometimes it takes time for God's grace to bear its fruit as we grow up and mature.
@Jerome616
3 ай бұрын
Thank you for leaving your witness here. It’s helpful to know the realities of what we are dealing with in catechesis. We live in a time of greater independence from the family. You don’t just follow your family anymore, but hundreds of other outside influences. This is no easy task to overcome.
@susand3668
3 ай бұрын
Bless you for helping our youth who are under attack in so many ways! You are doing a heroic job! Thank you!
@willd127
2 ай бұрын
I’m a graduate of Southern Evangelical Seminary. I’m also taking steps to become Catholic. It’s funny how the Lord works things out.
@NotSoCradleCatholic
3 ай бұрын
I toooootally understand Jimmy when he says that Catholics are exposed to so much more teachings than they realize. I was born into a Catholic family but we never practiced although I was baptized and confirmed. But whenever I went to mass (which was rare, even in Christmas) I never paid attention to the liturgy. It felt like a chore because I never recognized the beauty and structure of what was happening, and the graces of the Eucharist. When I encountered Christ and started to take Him seriously, I ran into Catholic Protestant disagreements and I wrestled with them. I’m now a very devout Catholic and now I love going to mass. If I’m being honest I don’t even go for the homily. Yeah it’s good and all but I’m not there for me, I’m there for Christ. And now that I understand everything that’s going on in the mass I have such a profound respect and reverence for all of it.
@randumgaming
3 ай бұрын
Something makes me feel Frank is closer than we think to accepting the Church again. Having Jimmy on shows openness, having his mom be Catholic has to keep some part of him open to the faith, and truly desiring the Church to be "true" shows me that there are obstacles that CAN be overcome for Frank. I truly hope Jimmy continues to publicly and privately dialogue with Frank on this, and I'd love to see Frank be a part of a Mass with Fr. Mike or Bishop Barron where he can get some good preaching during the homily, and through that be open to the beauty of the Mass. God bless you both.
@michellelaudet5363
3 ай бұрын
So true, what Jimmy says about what people hear while growing up Catholic.
@DigitallySaved
3 ай бұрын
I always liked Dr. Frank. I do not always agree with him, but I respect him. After seeing this, I now have even greater understanding and respect for Dr. Frank. This was a great discussion.
@glencoelho8242
3 ай бұрын
Jimmy, as usual, you are sowing seeds of faith.
@kimfleury
3 ай бұрын
Oh that blasted 10 minute homily! I'm a revert who grew up on the 10 minute homily. Upon my return to the Faith, I happened in passing to learn that the 10 minute homily was proposed at a meeting of the United States Council of Catholic Bishops (USCCB) sometime in the late 1960s or early 1970s. The proposal was made by Bishop Kenneth Utner (sp?) of Saginaw, MI. My own bishop, Archbishop (later Cardinal) Dearden of Detroit, embraced the idea, and as I recall, it lines up with the time period when our parish installed a clock over the entrance directly across from the altar. I recall the humble little priest giving his humble little homilies, and then after the clock was hung, he started ending more abruptly. I was very young, but I do recall times when I was thinking, "Wait! I know there's more!" Not that I wanted him to go on. After all, we were going to Grandma's and Grandpa's right after Mass for Sunday dinner. But I have this personality that wants to know the ending of a story that someone starts to tell, and it bugged me that I didn't get to hear it all. Anyway, that advice to stick to 10 minutes is out the window in the Archdiocese of Detroit these days. It's still not an hour long homily, or even a half hour, but 20 minutes is common in the parish I've been attending since COVID reopening.
@mckennarussell4510
3 ай бұрын
My deacon at my parish gives the homily once a month and always goes for like 30 minutes. That homily makes my former-Protestant heart happy. However, I love our priests short homilies just as much
@shiammi907
3 ай бұрын
Dear Jimmy Akin🙏🏽Very sincerely💖Thank you for this interview! The Lord bless you!!!✨
@hiddenhand6973
3 ай бұрын
I listened to Dr. Frank before becoming Catholic. God bless you both!
@roshankurien203
3 ай бұрын
Wow, Jimmy get Frank back back into the church. He’s would be a great gift tor the church
@LostArchivist
3 ай бұрын
A human being is their own end, not a tool to seek for utility-sake. It would be right fot us to desire his reversion for the God's glory and for the salvation of his soul, no?
@nightyew2160
3 ай бұрын
@@LostArchivist Yes, it would be right to desire his reversion for God's glory and for his own soul's sake. Fortunately, both of those things also happen to benefit the Church. 😊
@LostArchivist
3 ай бұрын
@@nightyew2160 Well said hard to tell what people mean these days since there is such latitude of how well catechized many are God bless you through Mother Mary's Immaculate Heart, in the Most Holy Name of our Blessed Lord and Savior, Jesus Christ. Amen. P.S: Thank you for being patient with me.
@NashonHanselman
2 ай бұрын
@@LostArchivist quit building up Mary....mary was just a chick...you don't bless people with Mary...Might as well bless people with MC Hammer.....JESUS is who you worship, JESUS is who you pray too, JESUS is who you pray too...
@LostArchivist
2 ай бұрын
@@NashonHanselman We do not worship Mary. And prayer here is said in the manner of asking as in 'pray might I beg you a boon.'. But Mary is Full of Grace, that is that for a creature she is perfected as the Greek word in the Angel Gabriel's greeting to her means. Our Blessed Lord is the Heir of King David and so as is in the Davidic Kingship, our Lord's Mother is the Queen Mother and so plays the role of listening to what subjects bring to her and she intercedes with her Son, the Eternal King, not God directly, but to the Lord Jesus Who alone is mediator between God and man. This is in the same way we pray for one another and ask each other to pray for one another. All is through Christ, none is on our own and neither does the Blessed Mother intercede on her own, but to and through her Son. Our Blessed Lord is the New Adam, so His Blessed Mother is the New Eve, as is seen in Revelation as she is the woman clothed with the sun, with the moon under her feet, and a crown of twelve stars upon her head. And her offspring crushes the serpent under His foot as it says will occur in Genesis. We are all members of the Mystical Body of Christ, and upon the Cross Christ gave the Beloved Disciple to His mother and Mother Mary to the Beloved Disciple, and this unnamed disciple is in the Gospel of Saint John a stand in for Christians in general. Everything that the Lord Jesus has He shares with us, as He is the Head His Church and we her members. So spiritually His Blessed Mother also the Lord Jesus has given to aid us. God bless you, my brother in Christ. Amen.
@gemmiefy
3 ай бұрын
Lord I’m not worthy to receive you but only say the world and my soul shall be healed
@timothyreilly8394
2 ай бұрын
@@gemmiefy The Lord already said the word. Well, more than a word, actually. "It is finished," Jesus Crucified on the Cross!
@billmartin3561
3 ай бұрын
This needs to be a 2 hour or more episode to cover many more misunderstandings of the Catholic Church.
@alebeau4106
3 ай бұрын
I’m a big big fan of yours, Jimmy. I’m not sure any other person has brought me to appreciate the richness of the church as you have. Regarding justification/sanctification, I’d love if you could address how - if in a state of grace - good works increase the charity/sanctification of the individual. I’ve seen almost all your stuff and watch you all the time on Catholic Answers, but I never hear you mention this part. Thanks for all you do.
@aaronsmith5904
3 ай бұрын
Also read Romans 2:5-8
@nightyew2160
3 ай бұрын
The way I see it is that good works are basically charity in practice. Love (charity) is willing the good of the other. If that willing is genuine, it will manifest in action (works) if the opportunity presents itself. Good works also build themselves into good habits (virtues), and the more we attain a habit of charity, the more we become closer to the One Who is Perfect Charity, and in this is greater holiness (or the word rooted in Latin: sanctification).
@laurakeuck3311
2 ай бұрын
Listening from Ireland Jimmy. Absolutely love your channel God bless you and your work. Please never give up, you are reaching souls far and wide through the power of the Holy Spirit. Also Frank is a very open engaging person, seeking God with a sincere and pure heart. May God bless him also in his walk of faith
@ericgatera7149
3 ай бұрын
Dr. Frank has had few misunderstanding about the Catholic faith in the past, it is good to see him reach across the aisle and have an intelligent conversation about the prevailing misunderstandings harbour by protestants.
@MeredithTripp-tn7su
2 ай бұрын
Loved this. Jimmy has such a clear way of communicating Catholic teachings. Great to see everyone getting along here!
@kentadamson6992
3 ай бұрын
Jimmy, thank you so much for your work! You have been a big help in my conversion process over the years.
@patcandelora8496
3 ай бұрын
As a Catholic I do share Franks frustration at the state of lack luster preaching in The Church. But having said that,as Catholics we don’t go to Mass for the preaching necessarily ,although we Catholics are exposed to more Scripture at Mass than anyone.No,for us the source and summit of the Christian life is the Eucharist. The Sacrifice of Jesus that occurred two thousand years ago being made sacramentally present on our altars and receiving His Body,Blood,Soul and Divinity
@LauraBeeDannon
3 ай бұрын
I love our priest. His homilies are awesome. He brings new life into our church. He's young and on fire for Jesus.
@KathySt-k3y
3 ай бұрын
I once heard a priest say Mass is not about the homily. I agree, enter deeply into the miracle before us in the Eucharist and if you read the readings before Mass let God speak to your heart for the message He wants you to hear before you go to Mass and it will make so much more meaning to you. Many Catholics complain about our priests homilies and we are the body of Christ to pray for our priests to grow in their vocation and bring many souls to Christ. Great podcast, I learned lots about our faith and we are never done learning. Maybe it wasn’t Franks time in life to have his ears opened in high school and it’s coming ❤
@patcandelora8496
3 ай бұрын
@@KathySt-k3y very well stated
@patcandelora8496
3 ай бұрын
@@LauraBeeDannon that’s great! You’re very fortunate’
@MrMustang13
3 ай бұрын
Turek had a lot to do with me coming back to the faith but was disappointed to find out he’s ex Catholic.
@johnbrion4565
3 ай бұрын
Seems to me like so many Catholics he just had a bad catechesis. I went to Catholic school and didn’t know anything about the faith until I started investigating Christianity after college.
@LauraBeeDannon
3 ай бұрын
That's incredible. What are they teaching?@johnbrion4565
@dontewithdragons
3 ай бұрын
@@johnbrion4565 before I became Catholic, I was doing my own research. Even during RCIA, was doing my own research. The problem is RCIA is supposed to be the discernment process, not the education process. You should be asking all your anti-apologetics questions before conversion so you flush out your doubts about the church. Contacting whatever devout Catholics you can to really express your questions. It is better to be a curious cradle Catholic than it is to be raised in the faith with no foundation for the church.
@johnbrion4565
3 ай бұрын
@@LauraBeeDannon it may be that I simply wasn’t paying attention but explaining the faith did not seem at the forefront.
@EJ-gx9hl
3 ай бұрын
Turek often says that he’s never heard the gospel or grace in a homily while he was catholic but it could be he wasn’t paying attention because he was so young. I know I wasn’t. And I would venture to say that even still he won’t listen to any homilies by catholic priests so he definitely won’t hear the gospel being preached. But that’s not to say every priest preaches the gospel during every homily or that every priest is even a good preacher/homilist
@gabepettinicchio7454
3 ай бұрын
Two great gentlemen & 2 brother's in Christ. Very informative video. God Bless you both, as well as your families!
@JustinKonathuvila
3 ай бұрын
This will change many hearts ❤
@twitherspoon8954
3 ай бұрын
Jesus is a fictional character.
@williamswenson3970
3 ай бұрын
Jesus is a historical figure, a fact which is widely accepted and well documented by sources outside of the Bible.
@twitherspoon8954
3 ай бұрын
@@williamswenson3970 _"...and well documented by sources outside of the Bible."_ Contemporaneously? By witnesses? Provide an example.
@justinalejandro3126
3 ай бұрын
@@twitherspoon8954 sutonious, Piny he wrote a letter to Roman emperor Trojan, Jewish historian Josephus why do you think Jesus folowers were willing to endure persecution and horrible deaths if they didnt belived he was raised on the third day ? but we do have free will to belive whatever we want and most times people love their sin and theire pride to be able to belive that Jesus is God and he is not a myth.
@twitherspoon8954
3 ай бұрын
@@justinalejandro3126 _"sutonious, Piny he wrote a letter to Roman emperor Trojan, Jewish historian Josephus..."_ Suetonius wasn't born until 69 AD. Pliny the Younger wasn't born until 61 AD. Flavius Josephus wasn't born until 37 AD. So what exactly are you asserting they witnessed?
@tayalollipop2317
3 ай бұрын
Thanks Frank for having Jimmy on.
@_korede_classic_63
2 ай бұрын
I love this conversation… it has helped me understand a whole lot .. I’m very much on DR Frank … I will very much love for the Catholic to be the real church because of what Jesus said to peter .. and they hold that authority.. thank you very much jimmy and Dr Frank. God bless you guys .
@SterlingJames
3 ай бұрын
Jimmy is the Catholic Grenade no pagan or Protestant wants to mess with. Love you Jimmy! God bless.
@Elizabeth-mp6tr
29 күн бұрын
Jimmy! I am THRILLED at this discussion! PLEASE, PLEASE, CONTINUE!
@gamefan8552
3 ай бұрын
I do hope more interactions with Dr. Frank Turek and Catholic Apologists take place.
@jeannefernando4937
3 ай бұрын
I have a greater esteem for Frank for his honest inquiry and good will towards examining Catholic teachings. I too, pray that he returns to the graces found within the Catholic Church. And I thank him for his mission in engaging the culture at large with Christian doctrine.
@Serquss
3 ай бұрын
If Frank went to a Catholic Church in New Jersey, that's under Bishop Tobin's jurisdiction, and that would explain why Frank heard gobblygook at Mass.
@LauraBeeDannon
3 ай бұрын
Interesting insight.
@Vincenzo-wn1or
2 ай бұрын
Ohhhh?
@erikhalvorson4408
2 ай бұрын
I Don’t Have Enough Faith to be an Atheist brought me back to Christ. I am very thankful for Frank’s work.
@Jiko-ryu
3 ай бұрын
I get the feeling that what Dr. Frank means by "preaching grace" is what many in the Reformed camp meaning (in Catrholic terminology) full remission of not only the eternal consequences of sin but also the temporal consequences, thus a person who has "accepted Christ as personal Lord and Savior" is fully assured that he or she is on their way to heaven, i.e., the assurance of salvation brought on by faith in Christ. What this may look like, and I think this is what Dr. Frank is looking for, is more of an "evangelistic" sermon where people are "invited to put their trust in Christ alone" and "offer the grace of God" by saying that in an instant one can fully be saved in an instant and not "trust in works or religion", which as Jimmy Akin points out, is always there in the Mass, but most Catholics who become Protestant tend to want the kind of salvation wherein one does not need to do anything anymore, saying that "Christ did everything, and there is nothing more you can add to make you 'more saved' than what you are now." So, I may be misreading Dr. Frank, but my encounter with Catholics who became Protestant (some of which became Protestant because of my preaching when I used to be a Protestant pastor), is that it is very good news to them that their salvation is decided by a once-in-a-lifetime prayer, and that nothing can now "snatch them from God's hand", no more need for penances, confession, or any good work, they are saved fully (both from eternal and temporal "punishment") by that once-in-a-lifetime prayer. What made me Catholic was when these Catholic converts to Protestantism would thereby conclude that if the Protestant scheme of salvation by grace alone is true, there is no need for sacraments (which usually means the Lord's Supper), and eventually no need for sermons or Bible Studies, and finally no need even to "go to church" as they begin to think that attendance is only for monetary offerings, and so many stop going to worship altogether. When told that "faith without works is dead", they counter that is salvation is by faith alone through grace alone, and that Christ did all the works needed for a living faith, then they trust in Christ's works alone to keep their faith alive, with no need for any effort on their part, telling us that if they though that church attendance was really mandatory, they would sooner return to the Catholic Church, and they won't do that.
@gk3292
3 ай бұрын
@jiko…well said!!🎯
@tomsmith8503
3 ай бұрын
I watch the debates and I think they're important. But, I think I enjoy conversations like this more.
@marlam8625
3 ай бұрын
God Bless you Jimmy and welcome back to NWA. (from a fellow resident)
@becfranc708
3 ай бұрын
Absolutely LOVED this, from BOTH of you, thank you so much and God bless you!!!
@rstuart5418
3 ай бұрын
thank you Jimmy !!
@taylorhughes59.5
29 күн бұрын
Thanks, Jimmy and Frank!
@ronaldreyes2671
3 ай бұрын
Thank you again Jimmy for this profound explanation regarding faith alone
@ggmorris71
3 ай бұрын
Thanks to both demonstrating how to open, honest, transparent discussion. Wisdom gained.
@hobbywright8495
3 ай бұрын
Jimmy, you are really good at your work brother. Thank you. Ps, the wheels are turning in Frank’s mind and eyes. He said he would love it if the Catholic Church were true. I am a revert and was an ill formed Catholic, who heard the gospel at one mass- prodigal Sunday, and it sparked a conversion that culminated in street ministry. I ended up AG and years later I had an intense debate with a priest. I said something similar to Frank, but I said if God wants me to be Catholic I will be Catholic. The priest said, really? I said, yes, I will ask him again. God, if you want me to be Catholic, I will. Boom. Long story on my youtube channel. “Why I am Catholic”
@jeannefernando4937
3 ай бұрын
Jimmy is to be commended on his concise, accurate and charitable presentation of the Catholic position on so many matters.
@susand3668
3 ай бұрын
Did I hear this right? Jimmy says the Church teaches us about the Truths of the Christian faith in the words of the Mass. Frank responds with "I just don't hear it in the homilies."
@kimfleury
3 ай бұрын
Yeah, I think maybe Frank is missing the point of the homilies, as opposed to the other parts of the Mass. In my experience in different dioceses in different States, the homily is the time to teach context through historical understanding, so that the words of the Gospel can be translated into the language we speak today. Few priests give sermons, in my experience. A sermon can be about anything. A mission priest visiting the parish usually gives a sermon about the mission he serves. But the regular parish priest almost always explains and teaches about the Readings for the day, often tying them together in a coherent fashion, so that we see the Old Testament promise, the New Testament understanding of the promise, and finally, the words of Jesus showing that He is the fulfillment of the promise.
@ozymandias5257
2 ай бұрын
Thank you Jimmy Aken, for the clarity and simplicity with which you address historical Gordian knots of theological matters. I'm floored that Justification is not the problem between Catholics & Protestants that generations thought it was.
@NorCalTesting
3 ай бұрын
I had a similar experience (fam left Catholicism at 10) in that when I read Romans 10:9 as a new Protestant I was blown away. Why is the Catholic church making things so complicated? Why can’t they just preach the simple message of salvation? Took many years to understand that basic level of the initial stages of salvation will cause many (self included) to be the bad seeds in the parable of the sower. Back to Catholicism at 46 and very grateful 🙏🏻
@genx-tv
2 ай бұрын
True, Catholicism is very bad in conveying the core message of the faith. Many Catholics (priests) use many words and terminology, but fail to let people truly SEE the main message. Even with simple things, like God's love and Jesus Christ's love for us. Words constantly repeated in the homily, but where is this love then put into ultimate expression? Where can we truly understand this love in an act that is more than just those words? Of course it is the cross and the sacrifice. But why? Many Catholics will not be able to really bring forth the story of this ultimate love, and yet it is there in the words of Jesus: "Greater love has no one than this: to lay down one’s life for one’s friends". Protestants are more clearly able to convey it. I truly admire protestants for this. Of course, it is there always in the Eucharistic prayer, but sometimes these words become just words. Every Catholic needs to truly understand it, and which task lies with the priest. So I get that protestantism is very enticing. But what protestants fail to see is that we also need to eat the sacrifice, the Lamb of God, literally. For all the knowledge many protestants have, many deny to see the parallels between the old blemish free lamb offering and the sacrifice of our Lord Jesus Christ. The flesh of the Lamb truly has to be eaten. They laugh at us finding it silly, but for the first 1500 years every Christian agreed about the Eucharist being the true body and blood of Jesus Christ. This is something even protestants can't deny when they delve into history and the writings of the Church Fathers. So even when I sometimes doubt some practices within Catholicism, protestantism is no option once you understand this.
@allenmcbride743
3 ай бұрын
I loved jimmy for many years! Lost touch for quite some time but so glad to see and hear he is still answering my questions!
@jesusmarywillsaveyou
3 ай бұрын
That absurd part near the end where Mr Turek shockingly claims he notices that Catholic homilies (sermons) never speak about "grace of God/Jesus" is in fact such an childish statement for him to make. The Gospel message is not just about grace, even though that is the central point of the Gospel. There are many other connecting messages: like warnings about hell and fruits of the flesh; loving each other (even called the Golden Rule by Protestants); praying for each other; the futility of riches; obedience to the Church,; and on and on. Secondly, the Our Father prayer given to us by Jesus Himself, which is the primary prayer of all Christians, contains not one line describing God's grace. That, however, obviously does not mean grace isn't automatically implied in the prayer, nor that grace isn't the central motif of our salvation. Just because you dont hear the words "saved by grace" does not mean there exist no other means to bring that message across. To argue otherwise is just foolishness. For example, Every Catholic parish has numerous figures of Jesus suffering and death. Thus, if you ask ANY Catholic why Jesus suffered and died (as per those images) they would ALL tell you it was for our sins and eternal salvation. The liturgy for the Mass, which we pray during the entire Mass, itself is full of references to God's grace in many ways. We acknowledge our unworthiness, we repent of our sins and acknowledge CHRIST the Lamb of God who took away the sins of the whole world, and that He resurrected for our salvation. In EVERY Mass we recount the entire Gospel message based on grace through faith. Learning about God's saving grace is the primary and most basic teaching a Christian receives. You dont need to be a genius to understand it. Therefore it doesn't need to be constantly re-emphasized in the same EXPLICIT terms all the time. Protestants are so hung up on straining at gnats they miss the ridiculousness and poverty of their own understanding. So frustrating, honestly. Heres a real issue and lacking within Prtoestantism...Why don't Protestants acknowledge the grievous nature of all our sins which killed Christ Jesus and which can separate us from Him, and which show ungratefulness to His most precious Sacrifice for us? We Catholics do all the time. Protetsants all act like we Catholics dont appreciate Christ's Sacrifice when in fact its Protestants who foolishly think they just have to believe in Christ. The demons believe too. Works increase our standing before God. They dont make us justified at initial saving moment, no, but afterward they increase our justification. And sins damage our justification because all sin is against God and His most precious Sacrifice for us. Protestants need to quit acting and rather look in the mirror.
@erin6083
3 ай бұрын
Childish is the perfect word.
@NuLeif
3 ай бұрын
I really appreciate the honest and respectful discussion between two highly intelligent men who want to serve Christ. I hope there will be future videos made on other topics. As one who knows Frank personally (and from SES), I pray he comes home just as I did last year. He is a deeply committed man who loves truth. Your (and Catholic Answers staff) direct and logical approach to answering my objections, played a significant role in my conversion to the Catholic Church. Keep up the good work of speaking the truth in love. God bless you and your ministry.
@josephnuesse3746
3 ай бұрын
The first Catholic Church council was the Council of Jerusalem in the book of Acts.
@mitchellosmer1293
3 ай бұрын
What was the Jerusalem Council in Acts? Acts 15 recounts one of the earliest Christian councils, the Jerusalem Council, and teaches principles still applicable to the Church today. This council met to discuss the issue of what Gentiles (non-Jews) should do when converting to Christianity. --I quote the last line again--Quote-- This council met to discuss the issue of what Gentiles (non-Jews) should do when converting to Christianity.'""Christianity- -NOT Catholicism!! What did the Council of Jerusalem solve? The council decided that Gentile converts to Christianity were not obligated to keep most of the rules prescribed to the Jews by the Mosaic Law, such as Jewish dietary laws and other specific rituals, including the rules concerning circumcision of males.
@mitchellosmer1293
3 ай бұрын
What was the main issue that made necessary the Council of Jerusalem of Acts 15? The issue had been circumcision (Acts 15:1, 5); yet the council's concluding comments gave no mention to circumcision nor to the plethora of regulations necessary for becoming a member of a Jewish community. ----What was the major decision of the Jerusalem Council? Council of Jerusalem | Description, History, & Significance ... Council of Jerusalem, a conference of the Christian Apostles in Jerusalem about 50 ce that decreed that Gentile Christians did not have to observe the Mosaic Law of the Jews -----Why is the Council of Jerusalem not considered an ecumenical council? Apostolic Council of Jerusalem This meeting of the Church in Jerusalem was not a gathering of representatives coming from all areas, like an ecumenical council. It is called the Apostolic Council, because of the participation in it of the apostles. ---The Jerusalem Council By Jared Ludlow Professor of Ancient Scripture, Brigham Young University Acts 15 recounts one of the earliest Christian councils, the Jerusalem Council, and teaches principles still applicable to the Church today. This council met to discuss the issue of what Gentiles (non-Jews) should do when converting to Christianity. While the first believers had been Jews who accepted Jesus as the Messiah, Gentiles came from a different religious and ethnic background, so their inclusion into the emerging Christian Church became an issue. Normally, Jews and Gentiles did not interact closely because of differences in beliefs, culture, and language, as well as the dietary (kosher) laws the Jews followed. The early Christians wondered if Jewish customs and traditions should continue, since Jesus and all the early Apostles had grown up doing these things. Early Church members held different positions on this issue. Some taught that males who wanted to be saved and accept Jesus needed to be circumcised, as was customary under the law of Moses (see Acts 15:1).1 Paul and Barnabas represented another position. They had been teaching Gentiles and felt that the Holy Spirit had helped convert them. Paul and Barnabas saw this as a witness that the work they were doing was true (see Acts 15:2-4). They were not requiring circumcision or adherence to Jewish dietary laws for baptism. These opposing views required a council among Church leaders in Jerusalem to settle the matter. Peter, the chief Apostle, spoke at the council. He reminded them of his experiences in which he had learned that the Gentiles should hear the gospel and that the Holy Spirit witnessed truth to them just as to Jews who had accepted Jesus as the Messiah (see Acts 15:7-8; see also Acts 10). He stated that God had “put no difference between us and them, purifying their hearts by faith” (Acts 15:9). The Gentiles’ experiences with the Holy Ghost were proof that their conversion to Christ was accepted by God. And they experienced this without keeping the requirements of the law of Moses. Peter concluded with his hope that “through the grace of the Lord Jesus Christ we shall be saved, even as they” (Acts 15:11). --------WHERE is a church named "Catholic" in all that????
@Melynn13
3 ай бұрын
Well spoken, Mr. Akin. ❤
@vakonightsbane9044
3 ай бұрын
Frank, have you ever thought that you don’t hear Grace in the mass because you don’t want to?
@dynamic9016
3 ай бұрын
Very insightful and i can listen to Jimmy Akin all day...
@BigDaddyCatholic
3 ай бұрын
Blessed are the peacemakers.
@gu3r1tar
Ай бұрын
Praying for you to come home, Frank
@lo5182
3 ай бұрын
Jimmy looking good with that royal purple t-shirt!
@taylorhughes59.5
29 күн бұрын
Very good interview, Jimmy. You never cease to impress me with your kind and patient demeanor, which is per St. Paul's definition of what love is.
@enriquemrodriguezbalsa2136
3 ай бұрын
I pray through the Lord's grace, our Sweet Holy MOther's love and your personal friendship and fair and lovong debating, brother Frank Turek will come home one day and he will help with the gifts God has given to him bring a lot of people to the Truth and the Love. God bless you two, guys!
@chrisalan11rus
Ай бұрын
We need the part 2! This was amazing
@catherinecox8921
3 ай бұрын
This is so good! I can’t wait for the next one.
@wilboomhower2490
3 ай бұрын
Jimmy, I'm a 74 year old cradle Catholic who, when I was younger, walked a crooked road and had a real good time: a child of the 60's. I am an old man now and I have studied our Faith relentlessly for a long time. I have the Catechism of the Council of Trent and am nearing the end. I've read so many Catholic writers, and as a long distance steel hauler for eighteen years I read the Jerusalem Bible from cover to cover. I simply wish to thank and commend you for your dialogue with Dr. Frank. I understood completely. It sort of summarizes what I've been saying for years: Why settle for crumbs when you can have the whole cake? I'm just sayin".
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