I would say Cell never returning is only better IF the series ends there. The narrative of sacrifice was unmatched. However, Cell coming back allows Gohan to make things right. To fight against Cell with his father's will behind him. Facing the regrets and growing from his immaturity.
@kettlemypedals
19 сағат бұрын
To to mention goku still saved the whole planet
@Gale-wy8of
4 күн бұрын
So many hate comments eesh. Cut this guy some slack, he is just sharing his opinions, and honestly? It's a good video, keep it up :)
@Rationalific
2 күн бұрын
This is the best Dragon Ball critique I've ever watched! Your reasoning is sound, and I don't really have any substantial disagreements whatsoever. You stated it all very well!
@ThunderChunky101
5 сағат бұрын
Yeah I subbed because of this video.
@Rationalific
5 сағат бұрын
@@ThunderChunky101 Me, too.👍
@radiantnakashima
5 күн бұрын
25 years later and I still have no idea why my Vegeta toy had a gun
@backtoyougo
8 сағат бұрын
Bro he uses the Galick gun 😂
@swampfire9382
2 күн бұрын
I’m glad we have all come to the conclusion that the last great arc was the Cell saga
@VaporYTVideo
2 күн бұрын
the whole point of the power levels were that they couldn't be trusted. That's why despite Raditz having a "higher power level" he still lost. Characters reading power levels always end up underestimating their opponents and losing because they rely on the whole number thing.
@Rationalific
2 күн бұрын
Not really. At 1:29, it shows Raditz' power level at 1500. Piccolo is shown at 3500, but that's later, and with his special beam cannon, he was apparently at 1480. So we're really comparing a character at 1480, defeating Raditz at 1500 who already had Gohan fly into his chest, was attacked by both Goku and Piccolo (the two adding up to be stronger than Raditz), and then got restrained by a Goku who himself could not do much else, so was left open for the beam from Piccolo. That's not a story about power scaling. Rather, this video is talking about a character not even flinching when punched straight in the face or otherwise attacked by another character (like Cell taking Krillin's kienzan to the neck and the kienzan just falling apart). That's the power scaling problem. No matter how creative Krillin could be, he's not even scratching Cell. Raditz is where power levels started. Later on is when those who could not keep up with the power creep became largely useless (except when the writers needed to completely and illogically do away with it all for the sake of the story, like with Roshi putting up a decent fight in the Tournament of Power in Super).
@noguidance4433
5 күн бұрын
I respect the fact that you’re not just calling the Dragon Ball franchise “perfect”. All the critics are valid
@47shadows76
3 күн бұрын
Critiques. Spelling is valid
@datkidsmoove
4 сағат бұрын
Just watched “New Hope” and this recap and the fan made should go hand in hand. Love how you break down the power system and talk about how much it sidelines other “main” characters
@somerandomguy9891
4 күн бұрын
You forgot the Uranai Baba tournament... I think that's the actual conclusion to the "Red Ribbon Army Saga". It started with Goku looking for his grandpa's dragon ball and it ends with him actually seeing his grandpa again, like a reward for all the effort made and people helped along the search.
@47shadows76
3 күн бұрын
Goku vs. Freiza was peak DBZ. Love you for acknowledging this.
@kaienglish271
5 күн бұрын
I actually agree with most of these besides Cell shouldn’t of returned and Goku coming back in Buu saga. The Cell saga wanted to shift the attention away from Goku so I think him being the noble sacrifice and the arc ending wouldn’t be satisfying. It also wasn’t just Goku who beat Buu he threw the final attack but you can say Vegeta and Hercule had a bigger impact on that ending.
@MrCaCaaaaaaaaa
2 күн бұрын
I appreciate the piano cover of Pokemon Gen 2 bgm.
@theeendo3677
2 сағат бұрын
The endless chase for higher power levels is a good representation of "The Will"
@Midasrex229
5 күн бұрын
My god that Pokémon beat drop at 14:43 🔥🔥🔥
@ThunderChunky101
5 сағат бұрын
You're right about power levels. This has been a cancer for years, right up until Hit had that time skip thing. The writers should take more of this. People LOVED those fights with Hit. Because it was like OG DB.
@Burst644
4 күн бұрын
The amount of cope in the comments is crazy 😂
@taylorscrews2284
4 күн бұрын
I see a lot of people saying that this is hating on the series. First off, why watch if you feel that way? Secondly and more importantly it’s not a crime to have criticism of something you love. Guess what, even the creator of this series had things he wanted to change after the fact. So why can’t a fan have a valid critique?
@masonlee7345
4 күн бұрын
This is a very good video. I can’t believe you don’t have more subscribers, BUT can you PLEASE ADD CHAPTERS FOR THIS all ❤ tho all w
@ItsBigTune
4 күн бұрын
You are absolutely right, I normally do that for videos like these.
@casbalt7763
4 күн бұрын
3:07 legit man if you consider that vegeta with 18,000 was already strong enough to level a planet. And frieza first form sits at over 500k and can destroy a planet with 1 finger and then we get to like a million then several million. The power creep is nuts
@TrevW92
5 күн бұрын
Re-upload?
@ItsBigTune
5 күн бұрын
Not as much of a reload as it is giving what some people want. There are people who prefer long videos, and it gives people to watch 4 videos in one place
@lassanadrame6621
5 күн бұрын
@@ItsBigTune for you Goku has more won or lost these count the all fights db dbz dbgt dbs and movies dbz?
@TrevW92
5 күн бұрын
@@ItsBigTune appreciate the clarification brotha!👊🏿
@IIBonafide
9 сағат бұрын
In DBZ, he term "Android" is a misnomer for both 17 & 18. They're actually cybernetic humans who were experimented on by Dr. Gero. This is how 17 was able to give birth to Marron. So, in response to your point, 18 DID have a soul and was the reason why he was able to return from HELL
@dwightnorton3398
3 күн бұрын
Vegeta knew about baby / growing up conquering planet 🌎 tuffel
@razkable
4 күн бұрын
Dragonball is flawless....dbz has so many anime issues like padding and focusing on the wrong things...the characters don't feel real they feel like action figures mostly used to make goku look good and make everyone waste time and wait for him as they lose...
@imtlifesytle
3 күн бұрын
Dragon Ball is the best. I actually loved when it wasn't just about fighting but also problem solving. The red ribbon saga was awesome. I loved that I had a lot of bosses cause growing up with it is how I felt: a kid against a bunch of adults. I mean, dragon ball z didn't even exist so there was nothing to compare it to. There was nothing to expect either. Everything was new.
@AlmightyChastor
3 күн бұрын
Anyone who thinks dragonball z is flawless clearly never grew up
@SsjkidsSaveCosmo08
2 күн бұрын
Ain't no way are you gonna say the Pilaf Saga is boring 💀. You aren't looking at the actual story that's there you're looking at it as someone who's already seen Dragon Ball Z and wants more of that
@Black_Guy
4 күн бұрын
I think power levels would have been okay if Toriama didn't connect them to everything about a fighter. Like two fighters could have the same power level but different stats, like someone is faster while the other is stronger physically, while another has stronger ki blasts. This way power levels only gives you a sum total without exposing everything about a fighter. This could set up mismatches that could be exploited rather than just assuming 2000 vs 1000 means the 1000 power level fighter is automatically doomed.
@reyrey9752
5 күн бұрын
I hate when KZitemrs just combined old videos into one long one it’s lazy
@ItsBigTune
5 күн бұрын
It has nothing to do with me being lazy. I’m making another NEW video as I type this, but people were asking me to put these into one video and that they like longer videos😂
@joshuasalley4161
5 күн бұрын
@@ItsBigTunefair
@asiahstarks6699
5 күн бұрын
It's not lazy if the individual videos have quality and pertinent content, it's just simplifying an already tedious process
@AGZhark
5 күн бұрын
You saved my time.
@firionkaiser8291
5 күн бұрын
Imagine calling what is essentially a compilation of the same kind of topic ranging from each entry of a series into one video and calling it lazy 💀
@damsen978
2 күн бұрын
2:01 i think i have to disagree there, because remember that power levels can change dramatically one moment to the next. So the battle is still indecisive. Maybe the villain or hero don't react to the power up but one or the other can get an unexpected transformation like Super Saiyan, or the Kaioken in this case ig, because i think Kaioken wasn't shown until Goku's fight with Nappa i think, so overall the uncertainty was still there imo. Power levels in numbers never meant anything really, its just for immersion.
@majorlogi5212
14 сағат бұрын
Nothing in this world is truly perfect; except cell that is.
@Leo-the_cat-and_blai
17 сағат бұрын
bro got that CJ accent
@Boy123Jim
Күн бұрын
People look at this, as hatred. Tune loved DB enough to critique it. Thats as real as it gets. Nothing is perfect & nothing is exempt from being critiqued.😂
@chris200830
22 сағат бұрын
I don't agree with most of your points on DBZ. Power levels were introduced to give an explanation to how aliens could sense the presence of other warriors. Goku learned to sense Ki but we learn that not everyone is capable of doing this. So the scouters were introduced to give aliens a tool to locate other characters and to create some tension during the fights but it never went too far. We never find out the definitive power levels during the final fights, leaving us to anticipate what happens next. Zenkai boosts are just a bad narrative decision. I agree with you on that. Bringing Cell back feels a bit nitpicky cause it does lead up to one of the most iconic moments in the series. And bringing Goku back in Buu arc is not that big of an issue and it actually ties well into the overall story. Goku and Vegeta were the reason Buu woke up and by the end it came full circle. It was still Goku and Vegeta who had to fix their mistake. So, I don't really agree here. Perhaps the biggest problem is how they massacred Gohan's character.
@TribalCheif-ku4vn
5 күн бұрын
Every time I see this channel it’s some forced criticism of the series 😂
@Mavuika_Gyaru
4 күн бұрын
Okay what did he say that was wrong?
@AlmightyChastor
3 күн бұрын
"Forced" 😂 cope
@damsen978
2 күн бұрын
Forced how? You're the one clicking on this video, so stfu lmao
@hallo23779
3 күн бұрын
arcs that had the biggest problem for each series overall in my opinion: >OG in general: Comedy, i think its not funny but thats just my opinion >Saiyan Saga: power levels >Goku Black: Ending, the arc has problems but the ending is bad in both versions what is the point of having the future trunks timeline be destroyed like you want the heroes to lose ok have future trunks stay and we see some character writing for once of him getting over his failure but his reaction in both versions was very weak and immidiately took the offer to join another timeline where he existed instead of at least using the timeline cell came from (wich is still bad but its a callback to z and it doesnt have 2 trunks and 2 mai in a universe so its slightly better) had this or them retreating and having beerus fight zamasu (who was coming in un7 at the time) would have made this arc an all time great for db >Black Star Dragons: the mini bosses/villains lacked a lot, i am always here for a space journey or a journey in general but the bad guys they fought were lacklaster most of the time
@lydierayn
8 сағат бұрын
Yeah... I love gt, but it mishandles great and amazing ideas and concepts.
@Joshua-xf2os
3 сағат бұрын
I think you have some interesting views on dragon ball
@iliasechaoui134
4 күн бұрын
bringing goku back to life was the best thing ever done goku is and will alaways be the main character gohan can not be the mc he doesnt fit for it no one can replace goku dragon ball without goku is not db.
@egp2497
2 күн бұрын
dragon ball was not given a fair analysis, you can’t judge it off of what you know it’s gonna become, you gotta judge on its own
@Afternoondelight88
2 күн бұрын
Android/cell saga was literally the best saga
@IceAlias
4 күн бұрын
Personally i didnt really mind the spirit bomb killing buu all too much. This is because its not necessarily Goku's power, its the power of everyone combined. In fact iirc the spirit bomb wouldnt have defeated buu without mr. Satan, one of the weakest characters at the time
@MrShaggy524
3 күн бұрын
That first take on OG DB is simply TRASH. My god, it felt like someone poisoning my ears.
@yrbelite8450
3 күн бұрын
No they just gave him some random power up that was barely stronger than ssj 3.
@AstraFulminous
3 күн бұрын
Your one of the few db youtubers I have seen try to fairly criticize each series. And I think that's good. Your not picking favorites your covering each thing. It may not always be perfect agree with some things disaree with others but I get the idea.
@joshuameraz2826
3 күн бұрын
Everyone criticizes dragon ball Whatchu mean 😭
@supreme_majin4106
4 күн бұрын
Do the problem with DBH please
@lonely_eclipse26
11 сағат бұрын
Dragonball Z has no flaws
@AGZhark
5 күн бұрын
My gripes with every arc, at least in Z and Super: Saiyan/Frieza Saga: Everyone’s lack of power. The Z-fighters all were practically slaughtered by Nappa and Vegeta, not to mention the hell Vegeta, Gohan and Krillin went through on Namek. Androids/Cell Saga: Trunks being completely useless after his introduction, and more than half of his screen time being wasted in two movies that I was never able to see. Cell’s revival also ruined the arc. Buu Saga: How many phases Buu really went through, as well as Goku becoming the main character once again. Beerus Saga: The retcon of why Frieza destroyed Planet Vegeta, and the introduction of Super Saiyan God, which is overrated. Future Trunks Saga: The ending being ruined as well as bringing Zeno into another timeline and erasing it, making everyone’s efforts against the Androids and Cell worth nothing. Universe Survival Saga: Powerscaling between every fighter being completely thrown out the window.
@firionkaiser8291
5 күн бұрын
Zeno wasn't brought into another timeline, he's the Zeno of the Future timeline, unless you're talking about after
@shockwavesyndrome6433
5 күн бұрын
I like how the gt hate is always “poorly executed” no further explanation. Also acting like gt has worse pacing than db or z is laughable
@Mavuika_Gyaru
4 күн бұрын
Gotta disagree with the Cell and Buu saga choices. Cell coming back allows Gohan to mature and Goku still gets to be a hero through sacrifice. And for Buu, Goku coming back gave us the Super Spirit Bomb and that moment is top tier
@MallyG-r4t
5 күн бұрын
Your entire channel is hating on the series
@dimi1344
5 күн бұрын
Cut him some slack He makes the content he wants to make
@BiggaVeli-u5j
5 күн бұрын
Hate gets more views
@ItsBigTune
5 күн бұрын
Yall really think I’m hating on Dragon Ball😂 I think I start almost every vid with “one of my favorites” or “greatest anime of all time”
@LisaEverz
5 күн бұрын
@@ItsBigTunea disclaimer before the hate, nice tatic
@keembo8413
5 күн бұрын
Tsk tsk
@stevengull6703
5 күн бұрын
After years of hearing arguments against super its pretty clear the problem with super isn't the show its the fans. Apparently people forgot how bad the writing is in Z and that the power scaling has been a problem since bare minimum Frieza saga. The good news is if you're willing to overlook the flaws of Z there is no reason you can't with super. Every criticism leveled at super can easily be used against Z yet because of nostalgia super gets the blame for the problems created by Z.
@Burst644
4 күн бұрын
He criticized Z as much as super tho? Also elaborate on the writing part, I'd argue db as a whole is underrated writing wise 🤷🏾♂️
@hallo23779
3 күн бұрын
it does get the blame for problems that were made in Z and the hate it gets is over the top (like many ppl act like it murdered their entire family or sth) but i will still make the claim that z and og writing was better
@SecondFacebook-q6z
4 күн бұрын
Calling the arcs by your own names ain’t a personality
@joshuacompton1047
10 сағат бұрын
God talking about a get hater 😂😂😂 he must have been born in 2009
@zombieguy4444
4 күн бұрын
Fun enough, Roshi once said he doesn’t teach actual Martial Arts because he believes strength ultimately determines who wins a fight
@MadMelinatedMan
4 күн бұрын
Is this a repost?
@ItsBigTune
4 күн бұрын
Not as much of a repost as it is giving what some people want. There are people who prefer long videos, and it gives people to watch 4 videos in one place.
@pric3lessl0s3r5
Күн бұрын
Would you argue with me if I said the best arc in anime?
@ItsBigTune
Күн бұрын
Which one?
@pric3lessl0s3r5
Күн бұрын
@@ItsBigTune Oh Namek saga. I thought you would've known because you said youd argue with anyone who said the namek arc wasn't the best arc (I agree it is the best)
@budal15
22 сағат бұрын
37:05 Say what now?
@2Tune2
Күн бұрын
Dragon ball failed my goat gohan, goten and kid trunks development ngl
@ssjalpha6593
4 күн бұрын
Man sorry bro but I gotta unsub. Don't nobody wanna see all this negativity in their sub box. You always talking about problems and shit. I'll be back when you upload something positive.
@Burst644
4 күн бұрын
Dragon ball fans when you point out a flaw (db has zero flaws and should only be praised)
@SsjkidsSaveCosmo08
2 күн бұрын
"Alone with the Spirit Bomb"
@qumainebernard373
5 күн бұрын
Hi
@Mojaveknight17
5 күн бұрын
Dejavu
@lilbropnut
5 күн бұрын
Great vid been loving the content 💯 them crazy zenkais in the T.O.P anime were crazy😂💪🏾
@mrlefern4167
5 күн бұрын
Simply dying is not a consequence totally annoying
@Mavuika_Gyaru
4 күн бұрын
For Super, overall my 2 biggest problems are the regression in characters and the bad power scaling. Like Goku had to be told by Vegeta the benefits of meditation. Something Goku did throughout the entirety of Z. Or how Goku forgot that he should fight with no wasted movements, Something he learned from Korin and Popo as a child. Meanwhile Vegeta regressed from Buu saga to Cell. He acknowledged that Goku became the strongest by loving the fight, not out of anger and pride. Then in Super it's like his speech in the Buu saga never happened
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