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@KasumiKenshirou
Ай бұрын
Why did Michael Bay announce that the Turtles were going to be aliens when it was clearly meant to be a surprising reveal in that version of the script? And even in the final movie, Eric Sachs was going to be The Shredder, and Oroku Saki was only added via last minute reshoots. So Shredder being non-Japanese was there almost until the movie was released.
@TheTurtleNexus
Ай бұрын
I don't think Michael Bay knew the franchise well, and he was just repeating a pitch. Since the event was for affiliates of the network, he was probably trying to make sure that removing "teenage" and "mutant" was a better deal for them. Or at least, that's what I am guessing.
@KryyssTV
26 күн бұрын
I'll never understand why so many writers and directors despise the idea of sticking to the source material. Yes, the premise for the TMNT reads like a 1980s sci-fi B-movie with ninjas, interdimentional aliens, mutants, and more recently kung-fu magic, but the franchise thrives on being an unpredictable and extremely colourful universe. Sure it doesn't take itself too seriously but the characters and their interpersonal relationships have always been very grounded and sometimes that aspect becomes very dark so you need the contrast provided by the setting to avoid the audience suffering emotional burn out or feeling like the narrative is just another family drama.
@Tortaviejo123-cb8me
25 күн бұрын
Yeah, just look at the recent bombing of the Borderlands movie compared to the success of Deadpool & Wolverine. If movie directors and executives learned that the IP they're adapting doesn't need to be "fixed" than the fans would award them with numerous piles of cash.
@KryyssTV
25 күн бұрын
@@Tortaviejo123-cb8me In defense of Hollywood, video game adaptions are currently going through the same growing pains that comic book adaptions did during the early 2000s. For every Toby Maguire's Spiderman and Wesley Snipe's Blade there was a handful of Fantasic Fours and Ghost Riders. Likewise we've had some good adaptions like Sonic and Fallout but it took over 20 years for the movie industry to consistantly get comic book movies right so don't expect good video game adaptions to be commonplace until 2045. Maybe we'll get a good Cyberpunk 2077 movie actually in 2077 :)
@Tortaviejo123-cb8me
25 күн бұрын
@@KryyssTV Good point. But the fact that most hollywood executives seem to hate the source material from video games, it's going to be years before we get to the MCU phase of video game adaptations.
@RusPitman
10 күн бұрын
That’s Hollywood. Pay for name recognition and then make it different enough so they don’t have to pay the original creators as much. Then when it becomes a franchise they’ll own the rights to this new version.
@Tortaviejo123-cb8me
10 күн бұрын
@@RusPitman Exactly. The fact Hollywood kept changing significant aspects of comic book films for years even when the MCU was at its peak, shows how inept the entire industry is.
@ENiceGeo
Ай бұрын
You know what? This story concept is a whole lot better than what they horribly recycled it into. Yes, them being from Dimension X would be a sore spot, but it was handled fine for this reimagining. The story bits about Casey's life and April's circumstances added some heart that I think was missing in the movie that actually came to be.
@armageddonmma8907
17 күн бұрын
The parts about Casey and Aprils lives were the only good parts of the script
@ninjafoxgamesgeekery
Ай бұрын
I actually tried my hand at a script rewrite of this I called "The Green Door" - My self imposed restriction were that only the dialogue and plot elements could be changed, no full rewrites to the entire plot or fully altering the script. Biggest changes I recall off the top of my head: Changed the turtles back to mutants at the right height, altered the bullet proof element to bullet resistant shells (could deflect a few, but not a great idea to just take 'em). I adjusted Colonel Schrader to be Tragg, eventually revealing him to be a rock soldier from Dimension X instead of a quasi-Shredder. I added an ending scene that set up the awareness of the Foot Clan operating in New York. I'm not saying it was gold, considering what it was polishing in the first place, but at least an online TMNT fan forum gave me feedback that it was a vast improvement and at least sounded enjoyably watchable.
@incognitofool6516
Ай бұрын
Better than the original screenplay for sure
@tannerprice2018
Ай бұрын
Colonel Schrader as Tragg would honestly make more sense than Shredder. Maybe save Shredder for the sequel? Like, do the Sci-fi thing first, then lean more into the ninja side in the second one? Like what Mutant Mayhem is doing?
@nivaldowesley666
Ай бұрын
hey, let me know if you want to turn it into a full comicbook! i wold like to join! 👀
@ghddoesstuff
Ай бұрын
I would also change the black headbands to red as a reference to the original comics
@johncaulfield8935
27 күн бұрын
Is it available to read?
@tannerprice2018
Ай бұрын
The premise behind the Blue Door is definitely interesting. I doubt it would be appreciated by fans, considering how it was thrown out for a more basic TMNT movie. But it certainly would’ve been an interesting reimagining of the Turtles, Shredder, Dimension X, etc.
@josephroberts1266
27 күн бұрын
Fans can't handle anything different anymore It's a shame.
@RusPitman
10 күн бұрын
Would be nice if IDW could do a tales of TMNT mini series or something.
@grungehippy
Ай бұрын
This didn't sound too bad until a prophecy came in. Lame, lazy, overused plot device.
@otaking3582
19 күн бұрын
That "It's just the ooze that's of alien origin" was obvious backpedaling. Bay clearly said that the Turtles themselves were aliens.
@Urmumlel7025
26 күн бұрын
I hate how Bay keeps making Casey Jones into a cop.
@SherAli123go
14 күн бұрын
Michael Bay never directed nor produced the second movie (Out of shadows). He was involved in 2014 movie. Do some research
@Maxwel_Rodrigues
14 күн бұрын
@@SherAli123goWhat are you talking about? He's still the producer of the second movie. I believe you should do more research
@brenthill2656
Ай бұрын
I think the setup and characters used in this script is overall more interesting than what we got! However, it does stray a bit too far and doesn’t seem to give the turtles enough development. I still don’t think it’s bad, just not quite Turtles enough.
@madisonlynn2419
Ай бұрын
I’ve always wanted to learn more about the full history of what The Blue Door’s concept originally was!!! Thank you for such an interesting video!! ❤❤
@keizercas6051
19 күн бұрын
bringing Micheal bay in because the script was too edgy is like saying, no you can't fight a fire by throwing wood on it, before pouring a gallon of gasoline on there
@noodle3384
Ай бұрын
Eastman likes everything as long as he gets a cut
@stefanbesendorfer1323
Ай бұрын
I have to admit, for an alternate storyline it maybe could've been a good movie.
@amin2636
13 күн бұрын
4:28 Really genius of you to do this I never saw any other youtuber do that
@codemonkeyattack
Ай бұрын
The older I've gotten I've always tried to look at adapations in a more positive way and not just force everything to be 1 - 1 to the source material. As such I've actually had thoughts that this script had potential but just needed work. Some elements could really work, such as parts of the alien plots, young Casey/April, the return to NY, and even the whole nature issues. For me I would make the back story go something like Shredder is an evil Utrom Warlord and Dimension X is where their dying home world is. 15 years ago Shredder created a gateway to Earth to exploit a new planet for resources such as conducting experiments on humans/animals and eventually terraforming the world to start a new Utrom Empire. In this timeline the news reports several people from the New York area going missing every couple of nights and one such person is a genetics research professor named Hamato Yoshi (also martial artist, I mean it is a comic movie so why not?) who was forced to work on the animal/human super solider experiments for Shredder. Several of the test subjects were local Purple Dragon thugs Bebop and Rocksteady who were merged with a warthog and rhino. But while recalibrating the machine a New York rat got in the system and forever turned Hamato into a rat-human hybrid. Realizing the human hybrids still retain too much of their human memories and desires, Shredder demands they create a mutagen that can work from the opposite side turning animals into human-hybrids instead, that way they have a blank slate to work with. Four turtles are chosen for the first experiment and it is a great success. Realizing how bad this is Splinter runs away with the formula and Turtles in tow to go into hiding. He teaches them all he knows about martial arts, this also could explain why Donnie is so smart as his father was a literal professor, and the other Turtles just weren't interested in the extra knowledge. Then add in the Casey /April / Return to New York / Nature moments from the Blue Door script but I would axe all the alien Turtles stuff and actually end with the Turtles defeating Shredder in Dimension X. But now they're a long way from home so it sets up a sequel where they need to find their way home and you start drawing from the Fugitoid arcs and even the Triceratons could have been involved. A third movie could have been them finally getting back home but learning that Krang was Shredder's second in command has conquered Earth, introduce Bishop, and you would end with the world accepting that aliens exist and that the Turtles just happen to be the "aliens" that saved the world so they become accepted in society similar to Mirage V4.
@matthew2734
17 күн бұрын
Sounds good
@HerbCoswellBornAgain
27 күн бұрын
As an original film, I think it could've been fine, but as a Ninja Turtles movie? Yeah, no.
@iwritechecksatthegrocerystore
20 күн бұрын
Nah. Either way it’s lazy as hell. Do we really need yet another: there’s a prophecy that these hero’s will rise and so they are hidden away blah blah blah
@mysterycupofjoe2670
Ай бұрын
The script sounded very generic. The prophecy thing feels very over done.
@gechoman44iwantahippo
4 күн бұрын
To be honest, the plot didn’t sound that bad until they entered Dimension X.
@litterboxstudios
Ай бұрын
The actual Bay movies were bad anyway, but it will always be amazing to me that fear of irate fans forced them to go (mostly) back to formula, and even after they shot the thing they had to clumsily rework the movie once they realized the “Eric Sacks” Shredder would be equally hated. That is a lot of time and energy spent fighting against the entire prior success of the franchise.
@Hirowastaken
14 күн бұрын
Honestly, i don't mind that script. Maybe some tweaks here and there but overall i like the idea that the turtles are these legendary warriors from another universe while also living in the sewers of nyc oblivious to how important they actually are. I like how the story builds up to them discovering they are a part of a prophecy and all of that.
@eman2863
Ай бұрын
15:26 AI is shit but holy crap this one is just wow. He has a foot for a hand for pete's sake.
@TheTurtleNexus
Ай бұрын
Could be a foot, but could also be a hand if you look at it closely... just not a ninja turtle hand.
@tyronleung5276
Ай бұрын
Colonel schrader, bulletproof carapaces/ plastron shells whats with turning casey jones and april into sam witwiki or makala barnes ?
@allanbezerra-omoreno4085
13 күн бұрын
I honestly engaged everything in the script except when it said "prophecy". I laughed at it. But seriously, this is a fascinating and authentic reimagination of the turtles, I would actually watch this.
@PregnantAdamSandler
12 күн бұрын
It took me way too long to realize Schrader was supposed to be Shredder
@DaxtotheMax479
9 күн бұрын
I actually like this more than the 2014 movie. Like the ending of having the turtles take the orbs as far away from each other after building up this brother dynamic throughout only to split apart for the first time in their lives. I could see the sequel being that they all went to Dimension X but one and set up a psuedo Last Ronin type storyline where it reflects that single parent energy with the trainees, this time being teenagers. All in all lot of the characters had good introductions but didn't live up in the end.
@erikwebber6038
15 күн бұрын
I would watch this as a one-off 'animated' elseworlds-type film, kind of like what DC does with their direct-to-dvd animated films. I know that would never happen though.
@sethstrattan7380
Ай бұрын
I would rather watch the 2014 movie that we got than this version I just sawz
@Daheat86
Ай бұрын
I would rather see what they would have done with that concept. It might have been a good movie. U can see where the movie did a lot of cut and paste. Did not like Ninja Turtles 2014 👎🏽
@tyronleung5276
Ай бұрын
It was a copy paste of transformers
@TwilightZoneMusic03
26 күн бұрын
I hone wish this is the movie we got. I was excited for a weird take on the TMNT
@wolfielee11
14 күн бұрын
I think there are elements to the "alien race of turtloids from Dimension X destined to defeat Krang" that can work in a TMNT story without killing what makes it TMNT. It could almost have been an aspect of the sequel even. Keep the first film familiar, the brothers and Splinter are mutated regular animals raised in the sewer fighting the Foot Clan either via Splinter being Hamato Yoshi (or his pet I guess) or switch it up and modernize Hamato to being a TGRI employee maybe or a Foot Clan member who defects. Then when they start introducing Krang and Dimension X you reveal that there is a species of alien turtloids and some prophesy of theirs stating 4 heroes would defeat Krang. The brothers aren't aliens, gives Krang that much more reason to hate them and wanna destroy them cus of their similarity to the turtloids, and you can kinda mirror some of the alien fun from the original comics and cartoon like the Triceratons lol.
@oneeyedrob
Ай бұрын
Regardless 2014 poisons the well. Terrible film that still plays like transformers. Why do ninjas need to be bulletproof monsters? Shredder is just Megatron.
@benmalsky9834
Ай бұрын
I think the 2014 film is okay. It’s not great or anything but it’s not terrible either.
@benmalsky9834
Ай бұрын
Dude, they are TURTLES! I think it makes sense that they are bulletproof because of their hard shells.
@oneeyedrob
Ай бұрын
@@benmalsky9834 it’s not great, but it is terrible
@benmalsky9834
Ай бұрын
@@oneeyedrob It’s my opinion. Respect it please.
@benmalsky9834
Ай бұрын
@@oneeyedrob I refuse to call it “terrible”.
@johnpittsii7524
Ай бұрын
Thanks for the amazing video ❤
@tacksgmvs2070
Ай бұрын
If only we knew about this script while the movie was releasing. This sounds awesome.
@tyronleung5276
Ай бұрын
The blue door was trash i wish we got a mirage comics continuity movie
@M567dk
Ай бұрын
Both the actual movie we got and this script just shows that Michael bay was never right for the Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles.
@tyronleung5276
Ай бұрын
The inclusion of bebop and rocksteady was already overstuffed and the alien plot wasnt needed and the prophecy mcguffin was lazy
@allenturnbull9540
13 күн бұрын
Seriously it would have been a lot better than what we got. At least it would have been on bell a spectacle. Even the 2014 movie was chopped to hell because they changed the Shredder from Eric Sachs to a random guy.
@sayonarakid
Ай бұрын
This sounds very bad. Don't know if as bad as the michael bay ones. But bad anyway
@kylemulkey9659
Ай бұрын
The movies sucked but this concept sounds equally as dumb.
@mr.bayless
26 күн бұрын
This version sounded really good until the crew crossed through the portal and were told they were warriors of prophecy. I like the concept that Dimension X is this concurrent reality competing with us but the boys being warriors sent away and the ooze story was a cover is just very jarring. Rise of the TMNT did a great job of altering the origin to do something new while still making it feel not different for different's sake.
@pawlee77
Ай бұрын
So they took some of the ideas from Bucky O'hare and Warriors of Virtue?
@huyphan7825
Ай бұрын
"Paramount thought the script was too edgy." Which is why they brought in Michael Bay's crew. A team well known for not being edgy. LEFT CHEEK
@alanwide4364
12 күн бұрын
Not every comic book needs to be made in a movie ..
@thatoneguythatexists4189
Ай бұрын
Leaving a comment for the algorithm.
@SherAli123go
14 күн бұрын
We like the idea of this script as it has some cons but this should've made the screens but I guess fans are to be blamed. They're trapped in a nostalgic hole.
@m.g.trazor417
13 күн бұрын
They retconed to close to the sun for the average reptile.
@RusPitman
10 күн бұрын
Honestly, get rid of the alien turtles and the destiny nonsense and it wouldn’t be too bad.
@BAKED_PRUNES
27 күн бұрын
Ngl its actually better than the 2 bay turtles that released 💀💀 i dont mind the brothers being alien in origin
@MRxDEMOK
Ай бұрын
They're scary.
@tyronleung5276
Ай бұрын
I see where the two bay films rewroked the shitty blue door, caseys a police instead of a rentacop, the turtles get kidnapped, the tecnodrome plot bebop and rocksteady etc
@erickdelgado3014
Ай бұрын
Man, this was honestly not bad!! I thought it wouldve been horrible!! But its kind of cool
@shadowspartan1184
Ай бұрын
I like the idea of Carey being the mean character. But That it.
@peterquinones2169
Ай бұрын
I now consider every version of any comic characters aside from the original to be else world So this version could of been awesome
@Vash45Long
25 күн бұрын
What form did Beebop and Rocksteady have in this script
@TheTurtleNexus
25 күн бұрын
Their usual (you could easily picture them as they showed up in the sequel).
@Vash45Long
25 күн бұрын
@@TheTurtleNexus yes but would they start off as soilders before being mutated
@TheTurtleNexus
25 күн бұрын
@@Vash45Long No, they were aliens.
@awiedhuman159
Ай бұрын
Im acturlly thinking about makeing an anime adobtation of this movie, though I won't change mutch of the firts half/third of the movie, since I think it has some potential. Im gonna make my own third act, and edidt the part about being alien... (Since thats what really makes the movie a mess in my eyes)
@Rell80
Ай бұрын
There are parts of it that I don't hate, but ultimately I agree that there's an interesting original story in there, not a TMNT story.
@Oliver-Candle
14 күн бұрын
Megan Fox and Character designer killed this movie
@jayfonz5765
15 күн бұрын
I'd watch it
@davidbrowne5969
Ай бұрын
It's sad how the cartoon tmnt is better than the tmnt live action movies from the 2000s
@RealCoolGuy
Ай бұрын
Man! This is SO much better than what we actually got! Stupid fans getting angry at one little detail ("aliens"). Movie would've been garbage either way, but at least this had some inventiveness
@greygremlin1248
Ай бұрын
Once again the fans got shafted
@mamunestor
Ай бұрын
Don’t like Shredder as an alien…
@carterblake3410
Ай бұрын
i like this scrpite but i love the 2014 movie we got
@arcangellopez2712
Ай бұрын
This movie could have been sooooo good if they weren't aliens
@neshaunblaine
Ай бұрын
…so how do they explain why Splinter is a man sized rat? Do rats and turtles live in harmony on X.. why did Splinter not get a wife to go to earth to help raise the kids.. why not send a turtle as they clearly would’ve shown that turtles grow up to raise a new turtle protege.. why send the prophetic children with no mentorship to magically get raised by a rat. This would’ve got picked to shreds by watchers
@charlesman8722
Ай бұрын
… wat
@thefancysquid671
15 күн бұрын
idk i kinda liked blue door
@thevioletskull8158
Ай бұрын
Is there any info on the "too edgy script" before Paramount bought the TMNT? Edit: Why use Ai? Couldnt you have hired a artist or something?
@LUMBEEPHENOM2012
Ай бұрын
You idiot artist aren’t free
@TheTurtleNexus
Ай бұрын
I looked at prices (for sketches like the ones in this video), but it was just too out of budget already. The money from KZitem helps me cover the narration costs (but it doesn't actually cover them). And it doesn't really pay for my research, writing, software licenses, and video editing at all. So I didn't have much of a choice for the time that I had to release this video. Ideally for the future I could buy a wacom and maybe do some doodles myself But they are also not cheap. At least, not around here.
@braydonlangford485
28 күн бұрын
Can you recommend an artist that would fit within their budget range? If not stfu
@sustelsuk
Ай бұрын
Also thanks for the warning about ai image, so I won’t be surprise about this horrible art .
@matttriano
Ай бұрын
Terrible nonsense
@lucasgibbs4050
Ай бұрын
Maybe one day the Ninja Turtles will be aliens… in a film that’s actually good.
@tyronleung5276
Ай бұрын
Hell no
@ankhale1033
Ай бұрын
It alreay happened just search “our friend power five.”
@darientellez73
27 күн бұрын
It’s Teenage MUTANT Ninja Turtles… NOT TEENAGE *ALIEN* NINJA TURTLES!!!
@teruienages962
Ай бұрын
Please don't ever use AI art again.
@TheTurtleNexus
Ай бұрын
What would you have done instead?
@theriseoflordmasterstarscr9036
Ай бұрын
If you don't like it go watch someone else let him cook
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