The fall of the British armed forces is honestly tragic
@captaincritter1898
Жыл бұрын
*hilarious
@mikeyp0131
Жыл бұрын
We’re spending money in all the wrong places
@thanasisrks4944
Жыл бұрын
It's the best thing that could have happened in the centuries it has been oppressing the world's nations. The same should happen with the US Navy.
@obvious-troll
Жыл бұрын
@@captaincritter1898 wrong, sad for a nation with such a glorious military record
@archiebrannan5854
Жыл бұрын
@@captaincritter1898🔔🔚
@jamesflaherty59
Жыл бұрын
There was once a time in history when the British would've dispatched 10 of the most advanced warships in the world to deal with this threat, crazy how we have fallen struggling to send even one frigate.
@hayleyxyz
Жыл бұрын
A very visual example of what successive governments have done to this country for the purpose of short term political gain or personal wealth for themselves or their cronies.
@Furthermore26
Жыл бұрын
I wonder what have changed. Think about that for a moment. What have radically changed in Britain, and the west. There's your answer.
@ThePalaeontologist
Жыл бұрын
This is the result of long-term defence cuts and a cultural attitude shift (veering into the widespread ignorance and outright apathy from large swathes of the apparently bovine general public) The Royal Navy can barely operate the tragically low number of hulls (particularly MSCs, that is, Major Surface Combatants) it has and any suggestion of major expansion is tutted down by the usual armchair admirals and naysayers clinging to the ingrained notions and perception problems which decades upon decades of the shrinking Royal Navy has engendered. It's a sad state of affairs. The overall GDP% share the _entire_ UK military gets is sitting at about 2.1% nominally, though in real-terms going into next year it's probably more like 2.2-2.3% with plans to be at 2.5% by 2025-2027 ish. In previous eras, the UK would casually be spending >10% GDP on the military. Moaning Michaels taking the mickey have been penny pinching for years. The out of touch politicians, generation to generation, think they are smart by scrimping and saving and making small cuts. Those small cuts add up. It is the kind of thing which I'm sure Admiral Cunningham of WWII fame, would have been horrified by. “It takes three years to build a ship; it takes three centuries to build a tradition.” - Admiral Cunningham, regarding the costly British naval operations in the evacuation of Crete.
@ThePalaeontologist
Жыл бұрын
@@hayleyxyz 100%
@ilo3456
Жыл бұрын
@@Furthermore26 Man it is almost like the UK is not that big of a country and doesn't have the resources their former imperial self had that they extracted from their colonies
@PsyCygnet
Жыл бұрын
As a veteran I’m super happy I’ve found and subbed to this! Great channel mate.
@goodshipkaraboudjan
Жыл бұрын
It's crazy how Canada and Australia are both committing more in the next decade to growing their navies than the UK is.
@BullGator-kd6ge
Жыл бұрын
🇬🇧 Look how fast those youngins grow
@MikeCarlsson
Жыл бұрын
The geopolitics are not comparable
@LeeXRV
Жыл бұрын
Where is the data for this? The Royal Navy is considerably larger and more powerful than the Australia and Canada's navies and has a growing budget. The Royal Navy has some amazing units coming to fruition in the next 5-10 years.
@tanyard
Жыл бұрын
Not true. Agree that the UK needs to up its navy a fair amount but Canada and Australia are only replacing ships like for like over the next decade and dont have half the capability that the UK has with its carriers, nuke subs, logistical force etc. Only including larger vessels (say over 1,000t+) the UK between 2010-2030 has gotten/will get 2x super carriers, 7x nuclear attack subs, 6x destroyers, 18x frigates, 5x large patrol ships, 4x naval tankers, 3x naval supply ships, and a few special purpose survey/surveillance/drone ships. Also longer term (2030-2040) first orders/plans for 4x SSBN, 6x amphibious landing dock ships and a future larger destroyer class. Canada has not received a new frigate or destroyer for around 15 years and wont receive a new one until its up to 15x new frigates enter service after 2030, 0x carriers or amphibious assault ships and none planned, 4x old diesel subs that wont be replaced until after 2030 by a new either diesel or nuclear class depending on what its crappy government procurement allows (hopefully they will join AUKUS), building around half a dozen lightly armed arctic patrol ships, received 1x converted naval supply ship, and building 2x new naval supply ships. Australia is a bit better with 9x new frigates ordered but not coming until after 2030, 3x new destroyers, 2x new small helicopter carriers, 2x new supply ships, and 6x diesel subs that are planned to be replaced by up to 12x nuclear attack subs but the first wont arrive until after 2030 and they wont have say at least half a dozen of them until the 2040s.
@nathanrainey3821
Жыл бұрын
Neither off those navies have nuclear armed and or powered subs active, neither have aircraft carries neither have a significant logistical support and supply fleet there is pros and cons to every thing the UKs naval budget has went elsewhere
@raixbox360
Жыл бұрын
Eye for an eye from what I can see from this video!
@pmrpla
Жыл бұрын
Honest question, am I missing something or didn't both countries break international law? The video mentions EU sanctions, not UN sanctions and the waters in the middle of the Gibraltar Strait are also international.
@alexjone5
Жыл бұрын
You missed a lot. Seems like no amount of explanation will help you understand. You lack the intelligence apparently.
@stevenmacdonald9619
Жыл бұрын
Have you seen the gap into the Gibraltar strait? Did the ship pass that gap? Then it was in British waters. We've been doing this shit for centuries. Listen to every radio message in this video again, and tell me the British don't know protocol. We effing invented it.
@kukajin9560
Жыл бұрын
@@stevenmacdonald9619 its probably just wording, but at 3:30 in the vid, he says that after the royal marine team took control of the vessel it was moved north into gibraltar's territorial waters. indicating, based off wording, that it wasn't before that.
@Kermit888-g7p
Жыл бұрын
@@kukajin9560I agree with you and I have the same question as OP. It seems both cases would violate international maritime law based on the descriptions throughout the video. Why would Iran be treated differently? Isn’t the UKs infraction justification for some kind of retaliation? What’s better than literally the exact same thing?
@fabriciuslan
Жыл бұрын
Except for its far eastern end, the Strait lies within the territorial waters of Spain and Morocco. The United Kingdom claims 3 nautical miles (5.6 km; 3.5 mi) around Gibraltar on the northern side of the Strait, putting part of it inside British territorial waters. As this is less than the 12 nautical miles (22 km; 14 mi) maximum, it means, according to the British claim, that part of the Strait lies in international waters. The ownership of Gibraltar and its territorial waters is disputed by Spain. Similarly, Morocco disputes Spanish sovereignty over Ceuta on the southern coast.[31] There are several islets, such as the disputed Isla Perejil, that are claimed by both Morocco and Spain. Under the United Nations Convention on the Law of the Sea, vessels passing through the strait do so under the regime of transit passage, rather than the more limited innocent passage allowed in most territorial waters. Therefore, a vessel or aircraft has the freedom of navigation or overflight for the purpose of crossing the strait of Gibraltar. Transit passage is a concept of the law of the sea, which allows a vessel or aircraft the freedom of navigation or overflight solely for the purpose of continuous and expeditious transit of a strait between one part of the high seas or exclusive economic zone and another. The requirement of continuous and expeditious transit does not preclude passage through the strait for the purpose of entering, leaving or returning from a state bordering the strait, subject to the conditions of entry to that state. The transit passage may be exercised regardless of the nationality (flag) of the ship, its form of ownership, the merchant or government status of a ship or warship, the private or government status of an aircraft
@aaronstreeval3910
Жыл бұрын
There was a forces news crew filming another one of those life on a navy ship type documentarys aboard Duncan It’s easily found on KZitem. Having already seen it. It gives a cool perspective of the situation from Duncan’s pov
@connorbarker3917
Жыл бұрын
Duncan didn't arrive till everything was over, Montrose did the leg work
@beardedchampion4321
Жыл бұрын
@@connorbarker3917 absolutely fucking right they did!
@notoriousdip5495
Жыл бұрын
Your contents have really developed over the last few years… one of my favourite channels. Love from Chertsey Surrey! 😎
@doifhg
Жыл бұрын
I don't know how I managed to be in the gulf for both this and the soleimani assassination
@jacklucas5908
Жыл бұрын
How did that come to pass? If you don't mind sharing with a stranger.
@HFFCANADA
Жыл бұрын
Tell us!!!!
@johnbeans2000
Жыл бұрын
Spook
@adamwsaxe
Жыл бұрын
Glad you lived to tell the tale . . .
@TheCameraManReviews
Жыл бұрын
You're Back!
@Whiskey2shots
Жыл бұрын
I feel like blaming this on the british government solely is unfair. whilst i agree alot of blame rests on them, the disregard for protocol by the crew of the MV Stena imperio is why this happened to them (its likely it would have happened to a ship, but their disregard is why it was them)
@splatoonistproductions5345
Жыл бұрын
Really hoping to see the navy increase in size soon, make it apparent that it intends to expand, let more people apply and make it apparent that they are recruiting so we can get more people for it as well, tho I’d say do that when those new ships get close to completion so when they’re ready for sea trials we have some people ready to go
@jamesg9468
Жыл бұрын
The RN is due to increase in the 2030s. The AUKUS pact is planning to increase the size of the submarine fleet, and the escort fleet is going to be larger when the type 26s/31s/32s are made. Despite all the pessimism, the RN does have a lot to be optimistic about. Trouble is...we need these numbers yesterday. With all that is going on, Iran, Russia, and probably a Taiwan conflict within the next few years...2030s seems like a distant future.
@splatoonistproductions5345
Жыл бұрын
@@jamesg9468 yeah, feel like 2015 crimea should’ve been a little bit of a wake up call
@catsnads01
Жыл бұрын
I never understood the Cameron budget cuts that gutted the armed forces, and especially the navy. I'm not being political or anything, that just stands out as particularly dumb. And the lack of foresight by the government of the day no to prioritise escort duties and realise Iran wasn't bluffing. I remember watching this unfold and thinking 'they can't be this dumb"...
@amazer747
Жыл бұрын
@@catsnads01 Smart people don't go into politics!
@thelvadam2884
Жыл бұрын
@@amazer747 not anymore atleast. we desperately need people like Bismarck in Skill.
@rockorockwell1420
Жыл бұрын
they really did the iconic first mission from the OG Modern Warfare lol
@fugehdehyou
Жыл бұрын
Stealing another countries ship / cargo and expecting them not to respond pretty dumb. Somehow international laws applied to the British ship but not the Iranian ship? Ok buddy
@barrybeebenson8102
Жыл бұрын
Hence why we’re seeing the service getting an increase in capability through the new frigates with the addition of the type 31 and 32 designs I imagine that escort coverage could be increased hopefully
@reubenmosman9466
Жыл бұрын
This is simply great programming . . . thank you for the effort that goes into each instalment.
@talpark8796
Жыл бұрын
thx for the uploads 🦬🇨🇦🤟
@christopheralbert9353
8 ай бұрын
Lets not forget the beginning of the video, the Iranian ship was also travelling on international waters before being directed into Gibraltar territorial waters. Same thing happened to the British ship so i think its even and squared. EU is not UN.
@dominus6224
3 ай бұрын
Yeah, usually the EU thinks they can dictate for the rest of the world. Disgusting hypocrites seize something which isn’t theirs and then cry over it when it happens to them
@marceljoubert5738
Жыл бұрын
Am I the only one that is against seizures of shipping? Whether it be Iranian or otherwise. What the British did was wrong. What the Iranians did was wrong.
@hichic4390
Жыл бұрын
You may have forgotten that on March 23, 2007, 15 crew members of the British Royal Navy's HMS Cornwall frigate were captured by the Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps. tell me about it
@MossadDid911
Жыл бұрын
Seems like the UK seized their tanker first. Fuck around find out.
@tac6557
Жыл бұрын
How the UK take L's while I at 17, stacked Taliban/Al Queada bodies that were made up of literal Iranian, Iraqi, Syrian, etc in 2002..?
@retorik7246
Жыл бұрын
Even with 1000 ships, how would you effectively prevent boarding via helicopter? Shooting at it could lead to retaliation, which creates another problem: what happens when they shoot back? Furthermore, why didn't you include the communications of the Sepah Navy missile boat that challenged the British warship? The audio you provided only covered the speedboats and the initial contact. In the actual communication, the Sepah Navy missile boat warned the British frigate, saying, "British warship Foxtrot 236, this is Sepah Navy warship... your tanker British Heritage is under my control. You are ordered not to interfere in my operation." The speedboats were not intended to deter the British warship; they are patrol boats, after all. It would have made more sense to challenge the single missile boat instead of deploying an entire armada. A frigate should be more than capable of confronting a missile boat. The issue at hand is not a lack of ships, but rather the fact that you were not challenged by a defenseless country as you might be accustomed to. Additionally, in the case of the British, for every ship you take, they retaliate by seizing two of yours. It seems you forgot to mention the second ship, Mesdar, which was also involved in the incident.
@Greensiteofhell
Жыл бұрын
Wow, whole new story!
@benjames2345
Жыл бұрын
Love the content! Can you do one on 'Operation Barras' next, thanks.
@jamesg9468
Жыл бұрын
The Royal Navy is smaller in size because it decided to focus on two aircraft carriers. To put into perspective, a carrier costs about £3.7 billion, a frigate costs around £250 million. If the 2 carriers weren't made, they could have made 30 or so frigates instead (not that it would make any sense). I'm just highlighting that they decided to go for power over quantity. This is a step in the right direction, as no navy in 2023 can call itself a serious navy without carrier strike groups. But the cut to the escort fleet has definitely been felt. It is due to increase in number in the 2030s (8x t26, 5x t31 and 5x t32 frigates being made), but we need those YESTERDAY...2030s is too far away. I also believe we should at least be doubling the number of OPVs. The UK has overseas territories in the Caribbean, Mediterranean, South Atlantic and Indian Ocean...there should be a permanent OPV presence at each of these territories.
@alexplummer6397
Жыл бұрын
And why would the people in the Caribbean want that. The British empire is over
@Kav.
Жыл бұрын
@@alexplummer6397 because they get rather unfortunate things like tropical cyclones, drug smugglers etc and it might be nice for them to have some help. Oh and Britain has security commitments to several islands in the Caribbean who fall under our overseas territories or as members of the commonwealth.
@alexplummer6397
Жыл бұрын
@@Kav. are you aware of the British resentment in the Caribbean? Be honest these islands were all slaves islands ruled by Britain and other colonial powers. Help is very suspicious considering we can’t drill and refine our own resources without giving BP a huge cut. We only like cricket because we can take swings at them lol
@s.wvazim6517
Жыл бұрын
Good effort to try justify it but sadly we know the truth.outside of SF the military is showboat to the libral way of things
@s.wvazim6517
Жыл бұрын
@@alexplummer6397 very true but it's also because of the UK that they are freed from slavery sadly that's been lost from the school books
@Cloud-dq1mr
Жыл бұрын
I see. I hope the United Kingdom of Great Britain does not forget that it has friends and allies very close by. Norway is your biggest fanboy, Sweden feels generally friendly towards you and also wants to honor Norways intentions and wishes. I also know we have Denmark supporting us in this matter. (våga inte säga emot mig i det här, danskjävlar
@studentaviator3756
Жыл бұрын
Leaving the EU was never due to anti European sentiment. I hope perhaps that we can all work economically, politically, and militarilaliy towards common goals as EQUALS.
@Joker-yw9hl
Жыл бұрын
🇬🇧🇸🇯🇸🇪🇩🇰🇫🇮
@wor53lg50
Жыл бұрын
Agree no way was it to do with any type of European resentment, it was about controlling, and taking back our own borders and living to our own rules and not being dictated to, absolutely nothing to to with our european cousins especially our nordic brethrens who we shall always be fond of and share a common ancient bond with?, thank you for your kind words my Norwegian brother, its rare these days for any nation to be saying anything nice about brits anymore..wassail and untill we meet in the mead hall of valhalla!! and to those that dont like us, "BAG AN NOZ", 👍
@MADmosche
Жыл бұрын
Great video, thanks for putting together the great visuals!
@AugmentedGravity
Жыл бұрын
Grease 1? Grace 1? Gray Swan?
@lockedon8953
4 ай бұрын
I would say this incident was quite the black eye for the royal navy. They were there to help, and the impero depended on the royal navy to come to the aid and help them. Only for a spineless commander to not do so. The royal navy failed the crew, and the Montrose failed at their duty that day
@Greensiteofhell
Жыл бұрын
I find it pretty alarming that Britain seized the Iranian tanker for 1 1/2 month - I mean how long can it take to inspect it?
@CandyGirl44
Жыл бұрын
Were the British legally allowed to seize the tanker? Wouldn't it have been better to track it until its intentions were known near Syria?
@graveperil2169
Жыл бұрын
are they being sued?
@hippopotamus86
Жыл бұрын
Yes, because it actually ended up going to Syria anyway. Iran lied and turned off transmitters. It was tracked by satellite at Syria. So yes, it was good legal.
@weredevil616
10 ай бұрын
A scary sight and also a wake up call. Ever we take a step back from trying to be a major player or the government equips the forces properly. We can win future conflicts off a legacy.
@Kermit888-g7p
Жыл бұрын
What’s the difference? Both incidents violate maritime law in exactly the same way as described in the video. UK threw the first punch too. Iran was simply retaliating. Both involved seizing a tanker in international waters through a recognized strait for inspection by means of armed boarding from a helicopter and small craft. It’s strangely identical so why does the UK get to do it and Iran doesn’t?
@LeeXRV
Жыл бұрын
The Tanker was in Gibraltar's waters, not international waters and adhering to the EU directive means it had to be seized. The Stena was actually in international waters but foolishly proceeded without RN cover.
@Mankorra_Gomorrah
Жыл бұрын
Imagine malding so hard you post it online for everyone to see.
@Kermit888-g7p
Жыл бұрын
@@Mankorra_Gomorrah I’m an American. I’m not rooting for Iran. I was looking for an explanation for the events, that’s all. 🙂
@Mankorra_Gomorrah
Жыл бұрын
@@Kermit888-g7p Americans are perfectly capable of malding and having to use the “they’re both equally evil” cope. Having the magic blue passport does not disqualify you from being a misinformed, stupid, malicious, or all of the above. Also being “an American” on the internet is as easy as being “a lawyer” or “a doctor” I’m sure just about every troll farm on earth will gladly praise George Washington and Abe Lincoln if it helps them sow chaos.
@cbbees1468
Жыл бұрын
@@Mankorra_GomorrahI disagree with the other American's assessment but imagine malding over the stupidity of one person and then painting that to represent 330 million people? 🤡
@Aceo_0
Жыл бұрын
Does Gibraltar owns the strate? If EU wanna sanction some state, it is free to do so but it shouldn't impose it on other states' relationships with the sanctioned state.
@AB-mw8oz
Жыл бұрын
Does Iran own the Strait of Hormuz?
@evilleader1991
Жыл бұрын
@@AB-mw8oztit for that
@AB-mw8oz
Жыл бұрын
@@evilleader1991 not really. Iran sailed into Omani waters to hijack a commercial ship. Violating several rules of international law
@Greensiteofhell
Жыл бұрын
@@AB-mw8oz Seems to me that the British started the incident.
@woodybenjam
Жыл бұрын
I want to know where the rest of the EU was with their battleships? (Nowhere to be seen as per usual)
@M167A1
Жыл бұрын
The EU is somewhere between a Ponzi scheme and a really bad joke.
@PrivateMemo
Жыл бұрын
And why exactly would they be responsible for bailing Britain out of the consequences for their meddling? The handling of the MV Grace 1 wasn't exactly elegant or lawful. And besides. There probably just weren't any other European warships in the vicinity. Because they would have likely rendered at least some kind of assistance. But I'm not fussed. You can float off into the Atlantic if you want to blame every issue in the world on the other Europeans. :)
@timothydexter4027
Жыл бұрын
@@PrivateMemoThe Lisbon Treaty promised collective security. That's why the EU should have helped.
@PrivateMemo
Жыл бұрын
@@timothydexter4027 The Lisbon Treaty doesn't promise collective security for what is arguably piracy.
@yorkshire_tea6875
Жыл бұрын
@@PrivateMemo You can ferry as much oil as you like to Syria then
@cestlextase
Жыл бұрын
The cost of harassing iranian trade to syria is too high.
@unbearifiedbear1885
Жыл бұрын
I cannot begin to imagine how fkn angry I'd be to be a merchant seaman at my post in the bowls of some behemoth; to be confronted by a fully armed Commando boarding party
@godhallelujahgaming7947
Жыл бұрын
Not like I was expecting this to not be a biased video against Iran, but hey what can I say, right?🤣. I'm just glad that Iran was able to do the tit for the tat that the UK did. "International laws for thee but not for mee!, when I want anything done I can just modify the so called 'international laws' to make sure I can get it"
@demonplague87
Жыл бұрын
Given how they act and the threats they make in the Persian Gulf I'm very surprised that Iran hasn't subjected to Operation Praying Mantis 2. It seems they forgot the lesson of the first one and need a refresher course.
@BossaliniFiveO
Жыл бұрын
Lmao you try that shit let's see how that goes this time.
@demonplague87
Жыл бұрын
@@BossaliniFiveO It'll go about like how it went the last time. With most of the Iranian Navy as fish habitats by the end of the first day.
@thetaggman5311
Жыл бұрын
@@demonplague87 Last time Iran didn't have the anti missile batteries it has now. Royal Navy would be made into some good coral reefs down there.
@catsnads01
Жыл бұрын
@@thetaggman5311except it won't. The Iranians know it, which is why they always push as far as they can, but never too far
@supa3ek
Жыл бұрын
Love how the brits make threats everywhere knowing full well that nobody takes them seriously. Its just that the UK will cry to the USA for help yet again. The brits are like that chihuahua dog that constantly barks at everyone passing by while having that german shepard (USA) standing behind him !!! lolololololol
@richardthornton3775
Жыл бұрын
Think that rope gets closer and closer to the deck with each dispatch there? That first bloke had a pretty ‘warm’ descent at that height! Bet his forearms were almost as hot as his gloves at the bottom of the rope 😂
@JaymondoGB
Жыл бұрын
Its terrible that we are wasting so much money in the UK dealing with what ever washes up on our shores, rather than spending on defense to make sure Pariah sates are kept in check
@aeyrul1
Жыл бұрын
man i wish to hear the logs of the 85 july encounters between he same chief of staffs.
@robbabcock_
Жыл бұрын
Great video!
@letsgettothemarks
8 ай бұрын
If you alter your course 360 doesnt that mean you are still going in a straight line
@panik735
8 ай бұрын
No, 360 is north
@letsgettothemarks
8 ай бұрын
@@panik735 Thanks for that. Bearing 360.👍
@TheodoreLevia-bg4wq
Жыл бұрын
I was not going to alter my course
@TP-ie3hj
Жыл бұрын
Might not need that many ships if "international law" was not what you deemed on a day to day basis. Quit stealing others ships, then others may not steal yours in return. Pretty simple.
@kevintravis5123
Жыл бұрын
i was in the RN In the 70s..no shortage back then
@Ruano0o
8 ай бұрын
So instead of transfering oil that take 1-2 week accros the land. They will take the sea route that takes month all around the world? And nobody think that is shady asf?
@jamesoldham9995
Жыл бұрын
Remember when merchant ships were armed?
@_Saracen_
Жыл бұрын
Sooo the Syrians got to refine that oil in the end did they? despite the EU sanctions?
@grahamwilliams7114
Жыл бұрын
Didn’t know what hit them when they meat with the SAS well done
@tyree9055
3 ай бұрын
The Royal Navy used to have a good name. Are they trying to tarnish their reputation, or is it already too late?
@yungcaco1443
Жыл бұрын
Tragic to see what the country and it’s Navy have been reduced to now day’s. Royal Navy doesn’t even protect our borders from small boats so what hopes it got against Iran.
@thathockeyguy1
Жыл бұрын
Good job!
@mbmann3892
Жыл бұрын
Don't like the fact we can just take over a foreign ship. Not a fan of that
@ingoatwetrust8086
Жыл бұрын
Brilliant
@catsnads01
Жыл бұрын
It is very tempting to say "look how the mighty have fallen" and that type of cliche. But particular people made particular decisions. The government of the day decided to play silly b*ggers with Iran, without taking the Iranians seriously enough to provide more escort cover in the Straits of Hormuz. Ships could have been made available, but weren´t. The Strategic Defence Review under PM Cameron absolutely gutted the Armed Forces in general, and the Navy in particular. Britain is an island, if you need any kind of armed force, you need a navy. I´m not being political. But I do think that powerful people that make particularly stupid decisions should be held accountable.
@-CLUMSYDIYer-
Жыл бұрын
You are 100% correct.
@EvWade91
8 ай бұрын
So they want the tanker to do a circle? Lol
@sensibledriver933
Жыл бұрын
Never understood why Montrose didnt shoot down the helicopter?
@andreaziz5499
Жыл бұрын
how about saudi fotces to help in inter bational waters of aden
@ln5747
Жыл бұрын
What jurisdiction does the UK have to seize Iranian tankers in international waters?
@Nav3n
Жыл бұрын
It was It was in British waters off Gibraltar.
@ln5747
Жыл бұрын
@@Nav3n it wasn't in British waters
@AB-mw8oz
Жыл бұрын
@@ln5747 Stena wasn't in Iranian waters either, it was in Omani waters, meaning Iran violated territorial waters to hijack a foreign vessel
@ln5747
Жыл бұрын
@@AB-mw8oz where did I claim otherwise? Furthermore, this was in response to.
@AB-mw8oz
Жыл бұрын
@@ln5747 "What jurisdiction does the UK have to seize Iranian tankers in international waters?" Direct quote
@flyingsword135
Жыл бұрын
Who is the EU to tell any other country they can do?
@yellow13.
11 ай бұрын
How far the British military has fallen.
@bikenavbm1229
Жыл бұрын
I probably dont know the whole story a Iranian boat was boarded for being illegal in some way, so 2 questions there, first, was the boarding legal? second, was the boat found to be illegal? If the answers are no and no well surely the Iranians have good cause to take action. People here need to open up the reality box and look inside, the UK is a shadow of its former self on many levels many justifiably so, but we clearly do not have the resources to have grey ships all around the UK let alone the World anymore, we as a Country are getting poorer every day, the NHS is on its knees people are earning a fraction of what they were, and lots of that ultimately goes out of the country, Perhaps we can still wave a flag around the World but the pole is very thin and weak. Its other Peoples time to lead now Great Britain has had its era thats just the reality of it. .
@admiraljodix4725
Жыл бұрын
So can someone tell me how these two differ? The british claim "innocent passage" yet the iranian tanker conducting innocent passage can be stopped? What is this hypocrisy?
@Romanov117
Жыл бұрын
You can ask Iran. That nation is notorious for seizing other international Tanker Ships. Iran was unopposed in the Persian Gulf and Straight of Hormuz before the U.S. led Operation Praying Mantis. Until today, Iran never changes.
@johnreed8336
Ай бұрын
Cowardice of the first order by the British Government .
@josephujiadughele6035
Жыл бұрын
Usa always work with Britain, so uk don't need much naval ship there but rather just a call
@ElusiveLabs
Жыл бұрын
Who is this dude speaking tho 😂new microphone or different host ?
@mac2626
11 ай бұрын
Your not funny grandad.
@mcsnaffle5443
Жыл бұрын
Ah the Grey Swan :)
@pedrom1619
Жыл бұрын
So, I hope everybody in the west realizes why you should never give a free pass to this regime! And why it is important for NATO countries to invest in navy capabilities.
@hazelalexisbraithwaite2629
Жыл бұрын
or maybe, just maybe, NATO countries should keep their warships where they belong? you know, in their OWN TERRITORIAL WATERS? and stop trying to be the world's police?
@pedrom1619
Жыл бұрын
@@hazelalexisbraithwaite2629 wrong! These are international waters
@alexplummer6397
Жыл бұрын
@@pedrom1619Maybe Iran, China, Russia and especially India should sail their warships through the channel.
@pedrom1619
Жыл бұрын
@@alexplummer6397 if they don't haress nobody or circuvent sanctions there's no problem. Otherwise there is!
@alexplummer6397
Жыл бұрын
@@pedrom1619 all good with me, as far as I know they haven’t. Even if they did I’m sure it’s not as bad a La the US and they go wherever they want to
@tawandashambare1605
Жыл бұрын
Thats what happens when you think you have big balls
@hakon5473
Жыл бұрын
had this been 100+ years ago The Iranians would have had their teeth kicked in by the Royal Navy....
@ghjgbnhjjghjthknvf6379
Жыл бұрын
Thats ridiculous we should have forcefully retrieved our ship regardless of cost, allowing Iran to believe it has again won makes us look like a target. We should have threatened them with a complete military strike. Place assets into the area even if it took us a year to do so then sink every last vessel they own and bombard their air force. Send in the S.Fs retake the ship and its crew. This would have been incredibly risky and expensive but thats the Iranians would never mess with the UK again.
@Greensiteofhell
Жыл бұрын
Yeah, van Damme style! Hehehehe
@oskar6661
Жыл бұрын
It's absolutely pitiful, the state of the Royal Navy. If I'm honest, even the softer-kinder-gentler "negotiations" by the commander of the warship were pretty embarrassing. Lose a few more vessels and the question will become; why even have a Royal Navy?
@LeeXRV
Жыл бұрын
Nothing embarrassing about the RN ship transmissions, just a professional well considered communication. Also posts like these make it clear how little is known/understood about the RN. I agree the budget should be bigger but the RN is one of the few true blue water navies that is capable of performing operations anywhere in the world.
@Player_Review
Жыл бұрын
'Hostage Diplomacy'
@s4ss.m8
Жыл бұрын
Kharg Island huh? 🤨🤔
@AlternativePractice
Жыл бұрын
UK needs to build more boats. They’re going to be I’ll equipped to deal with China when it comes
@jonmeek3879
Жыл бұрын
You people need to start putting more money into defense and stop shrinking your military!!
@itsonlymeandmaybeyou
Жыл бұрын
we did rule the sea once.
@Ahmat_Sila
Жыл бұрын
Modern Piracy nothing m0re 🎉
@Digger1971
Жыл бұрын
We did an amazing job we were always going to be too late for the stena impero we were caught between 2 tankers. But there were no British personnel on the stena so although we were threaders on board initially at least there were no British on board. Not really sure the author knows what he is talking about thoughh I never saw him on Montrose
@Kenneth-cn8dx
Жыл бұрын
Why would you see the author on the Montrose? Shouldn't matter what thr nationality of the crew is either, it was a British owned ship and what we are meant to protect
@Digger1971
Жыл бұрын
Completely agree but the emotions that the crew went through during this period are not captured here and the first merchant we were in time for, but we were always going to be too late for the second one. But the whole incident was in response to Grace 1. Because there were no British onboard the crew were always in no danger
@super_morto
Жыл бұрын
If you can protect these ships, you can protect grain ships. JUST SAYING!!!!! (2023)
@jackdawson3276
8 ай бұрын
At least America still.has some balls left!
@karloyu3484
Жыл бұрын
👍
@hinduimperium4885
Жыл бұрын
English navy should go back to English channel.
@simplicitas5113
5 ай бұрын
Gotta love that happy Allahu akbar :D ca 12 min in
@jackdawson3276
8 ай бұрын
HMS Montrose did shit. Wtf?
@anger9984
Жыл бұрын
We used to rule the ocean now they laugh at us while we ship pilu rice into the country 😢
@josephujiadughele6035
Жыл бұрын
Its a shame if iran can seize a British property and uk do nothing about it
@Greensiteofhell
Жыл бұрын
Good point, but it seems it could have been avoided - don't take others property.
@jp3630
Жыл бұрын
@@Greensiteofhell They struggle with simple logic like that. Something in their DNA.
@europa1387
Жыл бұрын
Should UK have fired nuclear missile at Iran?
@bremnersghost948
Жыл бұрын
Wonder what would be cheaper, Building a Canal to avoid the Gulf of Hormuz altogether or a War with Iran?
@tetraxis3011
Жыл бұрын
Where would you even build a canal? Also Iran is to fortified for a quick war.
@bremnersghost948
Жыл бұрын
@@tetraxis3011 From Abu Dhabi across the UAE & Oman probably build the Ocean Terminal in the big Bay at Al Khaluf, Be a huge project at least 370miles long but probably worth the Cost in the long run.
@supa3ek
Жыл бұрын
Just ask the americans to bail you out yet again !!!!!
@stephenwalsh1332triumph
Жыл бұрын
God save the KING!! 🍵
@stephenchappell7512
Жыл бұрын
Yes God save the rightful King William V
@stephenwalsh1332triumph
Жыл бұрын
@@stephenchappell7512 🤔
@stephenchappell7512
Жыл бұрын
@@stephenwalsh1332triumph Prince Charles is an illegitimate King due to his involvement with the WEF
@TheCerebralDude
Жыл бұрын
Touch the RN and America and the US Navy will take a dim view of that
@graveperil2169
Жыл бұрын
yep destroying the RN is the job of the US
@anthonycbudd
Жыл бұрын
So WE started this whole tanker war by taking an Iranian tanker?
@Adam-pk2te
Жыл бұрын
Maybe the US naval auxiliary sorry Royal Navy shouldn't be enforcing an american led sanction war or provoking the russians with pointless journeys in the black sea that way we wouldn't antagonise Iran and could keep more ships closer to home and our actual interests
@AB-mw8oz
Жыл бұрын
We were enforcing EU sanctions mate
@Adam-pk2te
Жыл бұрын
@@AB-mw8oz and the EU is lockstep with the US the EU has no logical reason to sanction Iran except that the yanks told them too
@catsnads01
Жыл бұрын
@@AB-mw8oz this chap seems to have both geographical issues and listening problems
@CrowDawg11
Жыл бұрын
Ah, there it is. The good ol 'blame the Americans for everything even if they had nothing to do with it' card. You'd think you people would be a little more grateful to us for essentially being your military for 80 years. We wouldn't have to have such colossal military spending if we didn't have to carry your entire continent too.
@kabdul9208
Жыл бұрын
You can see from the Ships from coasts of Iran! UK it’s international waters! 😂 Iran we have sanctions on UK & we taking the ships!
@JockMacHH
Жыл бұрын
Tit for tat seems reasonable
@Lassisvulgaris
Жыл бұрын
Or maybe not. Two wrongs will never make one right....
@ThePalaeontologist
Жыл бұрын
Except no, they violated international maritime law. Pariah state.
@Kermit888-g7p
Жыл бұрын
@@ThePalaeontologistI really struggle to see the difference in the two cases as the video describes. You say Iran violated international maritime law but surely the UK did as well when they intercepted the MV Grace 1 in Gibraltar. The straits of Gibraltar must be a recognized international passageway as well. The way the radio communications in the video describe the maritime law, the Gibraltar incident also applies. So why do you say “Except no”?
@ThePalaeontologist
Жыл бұрын
@@Kermit888-g7p Then that is your problem not mine. They were factually headed to Syria and it was within EU law and maritime law to deal with the illegal supply to Syria. Stop being contrarian to be edgy.
@Kermit888-g7p
Жыл бұрын
@@ThePalaeontologist Not sure what you took as not genuine… The ship was suspected of violating sanctions and it’s destination was not known for certain. Either way, the UK radio communications from the strait of Hormuz seemed to make it pretty clear that a vessel could not be interfered with in anyway at all. Maybe Gibraltar is not under the same international laws. You say it’s under EU law. I wonder if they conflict in this case. (Ex. EU law justifies interception of illegal stuff but international maritime says can’t be stopped for any reason). Just having a conversation and obviously I’m not the only one with this question. Are you always so prickly?
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