Marauders swept in from the sea, and the cities of the Bronze Age crumbled before them. Why did they fall so quickly? Support us on Patreon! www.patreon.com/ExtraCredits/
@jefflum4040
7 жыл бұрын
Extra Credits I wish this was a more Requet series maybe 2 times a week but I know it's hard to do all these drawing and other creation stuff
@blockyuniverseproductions6587
7 жыл бұрын
Well if you remember, tin (one of the major ingedients of bronze) is really rare. Maybe tin supplies got so low that they couldn't make bronze?
@alin_ilies
7 жыл бұрын
it was Walpole!
@maxglaak5317
7 жыл бұрын
Channel 8844 but couldn't they have traded with the other nations? Like the assyrians
@blockyuniverseproductions6587
7 жыл бұрын
Max Glaak all of Assyrian's tin came from elsewhere.
@Rakshasa1986
7 жыл бұрын
"waves of sea people" I *sea* what you did there.
@azelfdaboi5265
6 жыл бұрын
boooooooo
@bringsik100
5 жыл бұрын
@@azelfdaboi5265 BROTHA TAIWAN ! ! ! ! ! Any cheap and good GPU card available? . From ye most south eastern freind
@azelfdaboi5265
5 жыл бұрын
@@bringsik100 I should have some *looks in bag* Yea I have a few, only 25¥ per GPU card
@faz1599
5 жыл бұрын
Water you talking about?
@placeholder1308
5 жыл бұрын
ba dum tssss
@ZiggyWSB
7 жыл бұрын
Egypteans, Assyrians, Hittites, Mycenaeans. Long ago the four Nations lived in Peace. Then everything changed, when the Sea People attacked.
@kalixkatt
7 жыл бұрын
Funny, i'd just like to add in that these civilazations were in constant warfare with eachother.
@dimostychalas9716
6 жыл бұрын
ZiggyWSB for the myceaneans the mountain people attacked
@kkoron7908
6 жыл бұрын
Dimos Tychalas the dorian greeks;)
@stormtrooper5965
6 жыл бұрын
Hudson Huynh I know, right. He should have made a joke about that.
@et496
6 жыл бұрын
:D
@Beriorn
7 жыл бұрын
Ah yes, the seven great disasters of the Bronze Age. Volcanic eruptions, meteor impacts, aliens, Godzilla, Frankenstein's Monster, Dracula and Cthulhu.
@-archknight-7024
7 жыл бұрын
Beriorn But the seven great disasters can't get in the way of a good crusade.
Miguel Abiog *the whole world crumbles under brimstone and Eldritch horror* "FOR THE HOLY LAND!"
@secondchance6603
6 жыл бұрын
Miguel Abiog: The crusades took place to stop the Muslim hoards.
@RadMan42069
7 жыл бұрын
The stone message in the beggining reminded me of the final message of the dwarves found in Moria by the fellowship. Erie stuff
@anthonystromeyer1399
4 жыл бұрын
Hmm Nordic Bronze Age happened too But didn't "collapse" Similar duration Nice boats Battle axes Hmm Nordic Sea Peoples?
@twiddlerat9920
4 жыл бұрын
Vikings were known to raid the Mediterranean sometimes
@StephenGillie
4 жыл бұрын
4:47 Their ability to date things improved. They intermarried with locals and blended into the local scenery.
@StephenGillie
4 жыл бұрын
When times get tough, the tough get going - and by going, I mean raiding and pillaging.
@takiranayaki7870
4 жыл бұрын
There were no "Nordic people" back then or the Vikings.... your confusion a millenium span
@guifdcanalli
4 жыл бұрын
@@takiranayaki7870 of course there were nordic people in the north LMAO now, if this people did go to the mediterranean is not likely
@justarandompally
7 жыл бұрын
This might just have become my favourite historical period. It's so mysteriously interesting
@connormclernon26
6 ай бұрын
The grand question of “wha happen?” And we shall likely never know for sure
@samantham.8265
4 ай бұрын
This is why I love listening to music sung in languages I don't speak, and why I typically never look up the lyrics. There's something so satisfying about the potential in a mystery
@Duke_of_Lorraine
7 жыл бұрын
When you don't find enough luxury resources to manage your population growth in Civ 5...
@meh9114
4 жыл бұрын
I didn’t know what luxury resources are so I sold em
@ghasthordegd1201
3 жыл бұрын
@@meh9114 XD
@peacemaker63604
2 жыл бұрын
Or humankind, got a few games where a new luxury saved a vital city from revolt
@inirlan
7 жыл бұрын
"If history teaches us anything it is this : always pay your mercenaries. Oh, and don't invade Russia because that never seems to work." Aye, point one is very accurate. And surprisingly often ignored in history. Concerning point two, that has proven true with most invaders. The Mongols are as usual and exception.
@PROkiller16
7 жыл бұрын
Russia is actually not terribly hard to invade, the question is whether the Russians have the will to fight.
@ItalianMappingBestMapper
7 жыл бұрын
QuakeRiley But you still need enourmous supply, wich Hitler or even worse, Napoleon didn't have.
@NoneNone-mp7nb
7 жыл бұрын
Alexander Koza and i think that swedish king who wasted the opportunity to invade moscow
@evogames3687
7 жыл бұрын
which one?
@andrew-paulclements1502
7 жыл бұрын
what we should really learn is "Capture Moscow as soon as possible"
@mikabitar2945
7 жыл бұрын
im from Latakia (the same location of Ugarit) now days in syria, and i live in the Netherlands, i wanted to do a presentation for my class about Ugarit just this week all in Dutch language, and this video came just on time, thank you!!
@merchantofmogadishu3579
5 жыл бұрын
Masha Bitar dude can u show me ur presentation
@kailaine3974
5 жыл бұрын
Everyone else: “Don’t invade Russia in the winter.” Mongolia: “Hold my beer.”
@rawhamburgerjoe
4 жыл бұрын
Mongolia: hold my fermented horse milk.
@dowmont6209
3 жыл бұрын
Finnaly they lost.
@10Tabris01
3 жыл бұрын
Cue mongoltage
@karsentube13yt
3 жыл бұрын
Russia didn’t really... Exist at that time
@HOI4notsoproplayer
3 жыл бұрын
@@karsentube13yt well at least they won against the winter and kievan rus
@phanta_rei2910
7 жыл бұрын
"And maybe don't invade Russia, because it never seems to work." Yeah tell that to the Mongols.
@matthewhemmings2464
7 жыл бұрын
The Mongols didn't invade Russia, they invaded what was going to be Russia a few centuries later. At that time Russia didn't exist.
@Jamie-kg8ig
7 жыл бұрын
Well the Mongols also invaded Afghanistan and won.
@danksamosa3952
7 жыл бұрын
Matthew Hemmings the polish king in the 1640s captured Moscow when it was united
@danksamosa3952
7 жыл бұрын
Matthew Hemmings Germany WW1 knocked Russia out of the war
@saurabhbanik7811
7 жыл бұрын
It should have been "Don't invade Russia in Winter"
@settrasurfs1780
7 жыл бұрын
Time Traveling Vikings
@pingukutepro
4 жыл бұрын
Sea Mongol
@thetimetravelingfbi7626
4 жыл бұрын
Aliens bruh
@lifebloodcocoon240
4 жыл бұрын
Atlantians
@De_clan
4 жыл бұрын
Walpol
@takiranayaki7870
4 жыл бұрын
Manbearpig
@jvc8949
7 жыл бұрын
We really need a Total War game about the Bronze Age Collapse!
@jvc8949
7 жыл бұрын
I don't understand why they haven't made one already
@carlchurchill3588
7 жыл бұрын
Theres a mod that does the Bronze Age for Rome II, but its only custom battle
@ehgyes
7 жыл бұрын
there's a documentary series that was made using a modded version of Rome 1 and 1 episode was about Egypt vs the Hittites
@DEPTrooper
7 жыл бұрын
Maybe now that they've announced Total War Sagas (which are focused on specific events in history) they might focus one of their standalone games on that period.
@epicpantsryummy
7 жыл бұрын
That would be fucking sick. I don't like Total War and I would play the shit out of that. Imagine, the sea people invading your country, or maybe you *are* the sea people. Hell yeah!
@KTChamberlain
7 жыл бұрын
After Rameses III, Egypt went through a revolving door of foreign occupiers: Nubians, Libyans, Assyrians, Persians, Greeks, and Romans as far as the ancient world goes.
@edwardr5793
5 жыл бұрын
Romans don't even breath till King Leonidas of Sparta die to Xerxes I go drunk you're home
@michellejewell9859
5 жыл бұрын
Well the Aeneid tell us that Aeneas and the last Trojans sailed around to find a new home. Virgil never made clear if the wandering Trojans were trouble makers or not.
@JLrapel492
4 жыл бұрын
@@michellejewell9859 and none tell about the iliad and the odissey. Um no really both and Aeneas was after of Bronze age collapse stuff, -.-
@a.h.s.3006
4 жыл бұрын
@@edwardr5793 well if you want to get technical, he wrote the empires in the correct order and ended with the Romans, who conquered Egypt around 300 years after Alexander.
@TonyFontaine1988
4 жыл бұрын
@@edwardr5793 bull. Leonidas was around in the 400 bc. Rome started in 753 bc
@iratecomputeruser4160
5 жыл бұрын
The Sea Peoples have always been one of my favorite civilizations in the ancient world. Thanks for giving them their place in history.
@gastrofile
Жыл бұрын
They weren't "a civilization" though. It's a vague demonym for various unknown peoples coming from the sea.
@linforcer
7 жыл бұрын
"...appearing on mountaintops or secluded regions ..." Zombie apocalypse. Done.
@CasperKersten
7 жыл бұрын
Zombies don't sail. They also don't besiege towns with bows and arrows nor do they burn any towns down to the ground.
@hankrearden20
7 жыл бұрын
Casper Kersten Sure they do. If they're the Army of Darkness.
@Draczar
7 жыл бұрын
Depends on the zombie fiction we're talking about. Some zombies are very skillful.
@Mateo-oq7ui
7 жыл бұрын
Well zombies don't need to breathe so it would be possible for them to walk on the ocean floor and emerge on very confused and very terrified civilizations. Also, zombies can't shoot bows and burn cities to the ground, but desperate armies dealing with even the possibility of and outbreak on a city can. ...is it just me or does this seem like a nice setting for a tabletop rpg?
@hanssmirnov9946
7 жыл бұрын
They seem to be referring to the Israelite cities that were built along the Jordan River, away from the Phoenicians and Philistines near the coast. They built those after destroying the Canaanite cities.
@clefspear6975
7 жыл бұрын
Something I've always wondered about you guys. When Dan says "I think this" or "This is my opinion or what makes sense to me" is that "me" himself, Dan, or is he speaking as the writer, meaning that "Me" refers to James or whoever wrote the episode? Or do you guys all just have an alien hive consciousness that refers to itself in the singular?
@zyaicob
7 жыл бұрын
That's the writer of the episode. If Dan needs to break the fourth wall, then he'll reference James by name.
@PCspray
7 жыл бұрын
James and Dan, have explained this before in a Q&A. The answer is : "a mix of both". Most of the time "me" means the writer (which in EC is usually James, and in this series i believe is Soraya). But Dan also reviews and edit each script before recording, and he would make slight adjustments on format and style to it, and so, it also reflects "his thinking". TL;DR: ME refers to "Character Dan" regardless of who wrote the script.
@G4M5T3R
7 жыл бұрын
Yes
@akrybion
7 жыл бұрын
PCspray Nah, I go with alien hive mind. Sounds reasonable to me.
@swaggydarkrai4585
7 жыл бұрын
lol
@aaronpaul9188
7 жыл бұрын
Genetic studies of Philistine graves in the Levant showed that they likely had greek origins, or at least what is now greece. So it seems very likely that if the Philistines were part of the sea people, they were still outside invaders.
@kkoron7908
6 жыл бұрын
Fredrik Dunge nope,both dorians and philistines are greek tribes but from different ancestors..dorians were the closest descenants of pelasgians wich were protogreek and philistines were minoan descenats who lived in anatolia..btw illyrians werent dorians
@kkoron7908
6 жыл бұрын
Fredrik Dunge still phillistines were neither dorian or mycenean ..they were minoans so they were cretan greeks so i dont get why you cla8mthey were illyrians :)
@kkoron7908
6 жыл бұрын
Fredrik Dunge just do your fucking research...anyway i dont give a shit if you believe me or not...but just stop commenting because my phone rings like hell and i cant do my job ..just search phillistine anthropoligy study -minoan-cretan-greeks..you probably will find something
@cybelekilic7131
6 жыл бұрын
no you are liar
@augustsonseventy42
5 жыл бұрын
Possibly connected to the fallout from the Trojan War (refugees/displaced peoples/toppled regime/failed states) or the Dorian (sp?) invasion of mainland Greece/Mycenae?
@TheaterRaven
6 жыл бұрын
"So who were these sea people?" Atlanteans?
@takiranayaki7870
4 жыл бұрын
Yo momma
@adanalbantoglu7970
3 жыл бұрын
@@takiranayaki7870"Yo mama" Makes more sense lmao
@liamisme4166
3 жыл бұрын
Vikins
@fuzzyhair321
3 жыл бұрын
I think Greek like people around the western Mediterranean
@pavel9652
3 жыл бұрын
They had to be a bit savage because civilization inventions and achievements were abandoned and there was nothing left in written language. I have read they incorporated into their culture only the basic things they encountered after the invasion. Things that were used on daily basis, for example, better pottery, etc.
@thewingedcroc
7 жыл бұрын
I'd love a Game of Thrones style show imagining any of these versions of Bronze Age collapse. I bet there were crazy machinations going on!
@Docjager2006
7 жыл бұрын
This's why I love this show. I never Heard of this in my history class. It's almost like I'm Learning the history of a fantasy world.
@aaaaaaaaabaaaaaaaaa
7 жыл бұрын
4:13 unless you are, wait for it... the mongols *rolls the mongoltage
@zyaicob
7 жыл бұрын
This guy gets it.
@WOLF36554
7 жыл бұрын
And Germany in the First World War
@Chezburger343
7 жыл бұрын
Germany used the russians against themselves so i think they should be disqualified.
@saurabhbanik7811
7 жыл бұрын
It should have been "Don't invade Russia in Winter"
@Necrikus
7 жыл бұрын
Dang it, you beat me to it.
@Ben-zg5xb
7 жыл бұрын
Bronze Age Collapse B.A.C Back Back to the future *W A L P O L E*
@edwardaucay8597
7 жыл бұрын
Nobody Important Now the phonecians can get down to business
@robertwalpole360
7 жыл бұрын
Quite the leap of logic there. ;)
@USSAnimeNCC-
7 жыл бұрын
Nobody Important where that delorian
@mickeymalone7577
7 жыл бұрын
Gotta back back to the past Samurai Walpole!
@t.m.carter4171
7 жыл бұрын
I am annoyed how much that made me laugh.
@rileyamato3292
7 жыл бұрын
The indus people had a mysterious event make their civilisation collapse too. You should do a series on them.
@warlord2306
7 жыл бұрын
yes indus civilization is one of the most developed bronze age civilization and may be you don't know there are many excavation going on and in latest discovery is Rakhigarhi, the biggest Harappan or indus site or settlement . www.thehindu.com/features/friday-review/history-and-culture/rakhigarhi-the-biggest-harappan-site/article5840414.ece but most of peoples approach towards indus is just negative or idiotic they just saying indus just trading with middle eastern civilization they not involve in politics or other......crap . my question is when your title is bronze age they automatically cover all prominent civilization and indus also mysteriously doomed in same period . there are too much biases .
@rileyamato3292
7 жыл бұрын
That is prety amazing! Thanks for the link.
@warlord2306
7 жыл бұрын
most welcome . i am glad you mention indus {tiny number of peoples mentioned indus}:)
@MrJGN
7 жыл бұрын
"We willl build a sea-wall to keep sea-people out!"
@anttibjorklund1869
7 жыл бұрын
Finally... the Sea Men!
@JetstreamGW
7 жыл бұрын
You're a bad person, and you should feel bad.
@extrahistory
7 жыл бұрын
...pation!
@robertwalpole360
7 жыл бұрын
PHRASING!
@asalways1504
7 жыл бұрын
Ace132 On a small loan of a million shekels!
@DirkDerick
7 жыл бұрын
OCEAN MAN
@TOFKAS01
7 жыл бұрын
This is perhaps the most interesting "Extra Credits" series ever. Because it touches one of the fundamental questions. Why is there no direct line of development in human history? Why didnt they invented the steam engine 2000 years before Christ? Why did they made a downfall so often in such a short timeframe compared with the billion years of time past since the creation of life on this planet?
@lee470
7 жыл бұрын
Because its about context. Technology is only utilised if there is a need for it. And the need arises from complex social structures. Ancient Rome had all the technology to create the steam engine, yet it was a slave based economy, ergo there was simply no need for any form of optimisation or improvement in the realm of "beast of burdens". Development of society is the key if you want to integrate any form of technology. Language, interaction, human relations, politics etc. Humanity was simply not ready.
@TOFKAS01
7 жыл бұрын
"Technology is only utilised if there is a need for it." Well, yes. But wasnt there a need for fast transportation during the bronce age? We already had a large trade-network there. And they had a fundamental knowledge of mechanics and physics. And the word "Automobile" is a derivate of the old greek word for an autonomous vehicle... So, why was James Watt in the 19th century the inventor of the steam engine and not Platon?
@lee470
7 жыл бұрын
A complex society is more than just trade. again. the fundamental reason for the lack of innovation during the time is again explained by the slave based economy. There was a status qou and there simply wasn't any demand or need for innovation. Nor was there any middle class to speak off. Where they innovated was engineering and war. The economy more or less looked the same during the empires existence. There are seldom a single explanation for things, and i only offer my view of the situation. But, the advent of industrialisation derived from the need to make the textile industry more efficient. and the industrial economy could only develop after society had developed along with it. Everything form norms to culture, identity and language. And, several powerful european economies we're competing to be number one, and as we know, competition is one of the greatest sources of innovation there is. At the time, Rome stood alone in its section of the world.
@ΟρέστηςΜπέσιος
7 жыл бұрын
TOFKAS01 actually, the auto of automobile is still used in modern greek. We just have the word for moveable, witch makes the words ib greek and englisg fairly similiar.
@enternamehere2222
7 жыл бұрын
Because it's an exponential growth. THe more pieces of hte puzzle that is the universe we have the easier it's see which ones we're missing.
@KambEight
7 жыл бұрын
You said the lessons of history are "pay your mercenaries" and "don't invade Russia," but after watching the rest of the video it seems like a more important lesson might be something along the lines of "try to avoid climate change."
@zyaicob
7 жыл бұрын
XD
@Acularius
7 жыл бұрын
People like stability. Climate change is like throwing a wrench into a finely tuned system and noone knows what the results will be. Sure enough, humanity carried on... and built better societies.... but for once can we do it properly without a few centuries of suffering in between?
@BSJuliaMagna
7 жыл бұрын
or avoid people coming from the sea murdering your people and pillaging your cities.
@GlamStacheessnostalgialounge
7 жыл бұрын
Actually on the point of "pay your mercenaries" Sun Tzu had a better idea "After your mercenaries have done their job,kill them".
@redwallzyl
7 жыл бұрын
climate change wasn't all bad, sometimes it made the climate better. its also likely a major factor in the development of agriculture in the middle east.
@Mito383
7 жыл бұрын
On occasion I'll hear people postulate that religion (specifically the "Christian Dark Ages") are the entire reason that progress has been stifled. It's as if people believe that, without any religion, we would be colonizing planets by now. Although I'm not trying to argue that religion as a whole is entirely innocent in creating problems throughout society, seeing the Bronze Age Collapse and how it led to what essentially was a large scale halt in technological improvement across nations seems to indicate that, despite what some people say, there have been other factors that contribute to decline in sophistication of people groups outside of "Christian ignorance".
@glacierlegion9439
3 жыл бұрын
During the Bronze Age religion was a good thing. However during the Classical age we would be better off without religion.
@chamberlane2899
2 жыл бұрын
@@glacierlegion9439 oh and one more thing, a lot of the advances made by Islamic scholars were made either out of a classical Islamic belief that exploring and understanding the world was the truest form of loving God, or out a practical need to follow their religious beliefs (ie where do you face yourself to pray towards Meca, how do you follow Islamic inheritance laws as outlined in the Quran. How do you make cool artwork that doesn’t feature animals, etc etc)
@johnbagel2560
6 жыл бұрын
This is probably my favorite video of all time. Just so many concepts and mysteries are applied to what is going on here!
@OliveOilFan
7 жыл бұрын
I'm telling you we need a Extra history on extra credits
@zyaicob
7 жыл бұрын
Yoshi's Wooly World Battle of the Dans Season 2
@YBTrolling
7 жыл бұрын
With Extra Warpole
@OliveOilFan
7 жыл бұрын
UltimateBloxxer no we need to see it animated
@GelidGanef
7 жыл бұрын
I would watch the fuck out of that
@MrTomtomtest
7 жыл бұрын
If only History was taught like that in school, I'd be a lot easier to interest some students. The best History teachers are the ones that know how to tell a story.
@CT-7901-Pocket
2 жыл бұрын
Middle school and high school is alright, but elementary sucks
@Loof42
7 жыл бұрын
4:14 *queue the mongoltage*
@robertwalpole360
7 жыл бұрын
I ain't afraid of no Mongols!
@killecalle9044
7 жыл бұрын
ah i see you are a man of culture aswell
@GutsLikesItInTheAss
7 жыл бұрын
Roberts Walpole+ Famous last words, of many great medieval empires.
@ckbooks
7 жыл бұрын
This is a really interesting series. I like these more speculative episodes that try to make sense of disparate historical records and present incomplete data for us the audience to ponder. It makes me really eager to see you do other topics about ancient history that're based more on archaeology and theory rather than written accounts. This kind of stuff does a great job of diversifying the format.
@irene_deneb
Жыл бұрын
The Xia dynasty is said to have collapsed around 1500 BC, contemporary with the eruption of Santorini, and the records tell that drought, bizarre weather patterns, and an unending winter were the causes of the rebellion of vassal lords which are said to have toppled the dynasty. This correlation points for me to the possibility that the Xia may have been real, or at least a folk memory of a great early kingdom which collapsed alongside many others of its time all over the world.
@AustinLeeds
7 жыл бұрын
Now the Phoenicians can get down to business!
@itsblitzkrieg8911
6 жыл бұрын
Austin Leeds i love you now
@KathrynsWorldWildfireTracking
5 жыл бұрын
Carthage should have won.
@nikogichana6199
5 жыл бұрын
To defeat the huns
@General_Dave_1
7 жыл бұрын
Maybe they came from *Atlantis* .
@mlovecraftr
7 жыл бұрын
Everybody please watch Nadia and the secret of Blue Water!
@ZAV1944
7 жыл бұрын
which is probably the Biblical city of Tarshish according to some historians and archaeologist.
@airmanon7213
7 жыл бұрын
Maybe the stories of Atlantis came from speculation on where the Sea People came from!
@zyaicob
7 жыл бұрын
Probably Tarshish.
@eyuin5716
7 жыл бұрын
I think the Sea Peoples could have been the Nuragic civilization from modern day Sardinia.
@stevenhuxley2866
7 жыл бұрын
You fell victim to one of the classic blunders - the most famous of which is "never get involved in a land war in Asia."
@hankrearden20
7 жыл бұрын
Steven Huxley I know these references.
@francescomazzei4111
7 жыл бұрын
"Cities were destroyed and not rebuilt and, after many centuries, reappeared on top of high mountains or hidden in gorges". This story is simply fascinating!!!
@wendychavez5348
5 жыл бұрын
I begin to understand why my feed is filled with Bronze Age Collapse videos! As history experts you are well aware that time is a great circle, or as I think of it, a spiral. We are getting to this point in the cycle again, on several levels, and you are helping me to understand it. I hope others with more decision-making capability than I have are also coming to realize it, and that we as a planet find ways to alter the cycle a little bit.
@AegixDrakan
7 жыл бұрын
...Why is Dracula listed under natural disasters? XD I mean, Cthulu...Ok, sure. But DRACULA?!
@Burn_Angel
5 жыл бұрын
To be fair, Dracula actually existed in history.
@willhuey4891
4 жыл бұрын
vlad the impaler.
@user-uc7iu2rm2h
4 жыл бұрын
Killed by the muslims the ottoman empire
@TheAzureNightmare
4 жыл бұрын
The Crimson Fucker is as much of a force of nature as POPO.
@TomasPabon
3 жыл бұрын
@@Burn_Angel pray tell how a dude is a natural disaster
@Zerpderp0
7 жыл бұрын
damn, Seamen always penetrate the eggs of civilization
@ivanlukin4926
7 жыл бұрын
Zerpderp0 Was that REALLY needed? I vote yes...
@Zerpderp0
7 жыл бұрын
Fox D yes
@primusinterpares5767
7 жыл бұрын
Zerpderp0 i
@kitchenjail3546
5 жыл бұрын
Guess I'll laugh
@herobrinesblog
7 жыл бұрын
A lot of articles and historians point to a common event in this period, that if not the main cause, one of: -droughts in many wells -a change in temperatures -erosion of the fertility of the farmlands -volcanic eruptions (hence myths like atlantis, that probably derived from the minoans) These made the gains from farming smaller and despair grew, forcing each nation to resort to war or rebellions. Lots of collapsed walls also indicate a succession of earth quakes during these times, which would not only kill many and destroy buildings, but would cause panic amongst the religious folk that believed that this was a punishment laid down by the gods!
@justinrboyett
4 жыл бұрын
I love you guys so much. I have my kids watch these episodes, and it is a great bonding experience for us. That said a lot of that of that has to do with the narration, and the tone of the videos. I have noticed that the older videos are far better designed for sharing with my kids. The newer videos are a little less suitable for a elementary kids.
@dropmelon
7 жыл бұрын
"If history teaches us anything it is this : always pay your mercenaries. Oh, and maybe don't invade Russia because that never seems to work." Well said.
@iamthepersonwhoasked5639
3 жыл бұрын
Mongolia would like to know ur location
@clyran5507
7 жыл бұрын
Everything changed when the Sea people attacked...
@ponycentaur1456
7 жыл бұрын
1:10 according to history channel, it was aliens, not sea people lol kidding
@Youtuber-yl6sj
7 жыл бұрын
alien sea people
@andresarancio6696
7 жыл бұрын
Cthullu
@pewdiepieisstillabadyoutub4490
5 жыл бұрын
Alien Sea Walpoles
@wendychavez5348
5 жыл бұрын
The universe can be considered another level of sea; it's huge, and largely unexplored, has many interesting environments and perhaps many forms of life that we're currently unaware of.
@Burn_Angel
5 жыл бұрын
@@wendychavez5348 But we know more about the space that surround our planet than the bottom of the oceans...
@aerohydreigon1101
4 жыл бұрын
The Egyptian pharoah said that their belongings were dumped into the sea... And you said there were some iron artifacts found during the collapse...
@Blobzy64
7 жыл бұрын
The fact that we don't know how entire civilizations ended is highly disturbing to me. I badly want to see a movie, game, or tv show set in that time now.
@alsarmiento8811
7 жыл бұрын
"And them the sea people (fire nation ) attacked "
@Poffean
6 жыл бұрын
Al Sarmiento you mean teh azteks?
@Bryce-yw8hf
7 жыл бұрын
I thought Egypt managed to survive the sea people but collapsed later due to Ramses dieing soon after?
@scotty15002
7 жыл бұрын
This is similar to what I've heard. Ramses did manage to fend them off, but the damage from the conflict resulted in a systemic collapse of Egypt.
@nicholasroberts8378
7 жыл бұрын
Bryce 0905 I think Egypt was the longest surviving bronze age civilization but due to their God King system Ramses death would have hit hard since I believe he had the longest resign of the pharaohs dying at the age of 82.
@greoge1381
7 жыл бұрын
Well I mean you could argue the Greeks survived right? The Mycenaeans are sometimes called Greeks, the same name in the same place doesn't necessarily mean they "survived". And even if they weren't future rulers of Egypt claiming they came from the old pre-collapse rulers was a winning strategy for legitimacy points.
@nicholasroberts8378
7 жыл бұрын
Greoge 13 Ueath like the Neo empires that rose after the collapse. Like Neo-assyrian, Neo-Babylonian, and at one point Neo-Hittite. If I'm remembering right ,Egypt didn't collapse into total anarchy but instead lost a lot of territory and would just change dynasty and never recovered from the collapse.
@Bryce-yw8hf
7 жыл бұрын
I suppose I see your point thats just what I heard sorry.
@MJCKCA
7 жыл бұрын
This very hypothetical series is totally my favorite so far. Keep up the amazing job guys!
@ewok40k
7 жыл бұрын
My pet theory is the key to the fall was destruction of Minoan Crete. With its thalassocracy - rule of the sea - broken, Sea People were free to roam the Mediterranean, while at same time bringing seaborne trade to complete halt. And as you have already mentioned, trade was crucial to the bronze production itself...
@Corndadthepop
3 жыл бұрын
I think the sea people were literally just the people who worked the sea every day of their lives practically and then had no work. A solid group of em banded together and used what they knew to get what they could
@Dionysus24779
7 жыл бұрын
The more "personal" Extra Histories we had so far were all really exciting and cool, but this more "broad" series is my favorite so far.
@knives4cash
7 жыл бұрын
I guess something went Ugawrong.
@whatareyougay2826
6 жыл бұрын
knives4cash pls kill me
@amcorgi2630
7 жыл бұрын
4:15 unless you are... wait for it... THE MONGOLS.
@lerzidmarino5868
7 жыл бұрын
Or the poles
@martiansoldier
7 жыл бұрын
The Mayans had one dry year and that finished them off if I remember right, they never returned to their cities.
@carolinablue6987
4 жыл бұрын
Proving again that history is written by the winner
@christiandauz3742
3 жыл бұрын
Mayan Remnants existed until the Spanish conquest. Granted they are a small shadow of their former selves
@Burn_Angel
3 жыл бұрын
Not sure about that. What I know is that the spanish had nothing to do with them, as they vanished hundreds of years before their arrival.
@christiandauz3742
3 жыл бұрын
@@Burn_Angel The Mayans controlled one city when Cortez invaded
@hjhyao
4 жыл бұрын
”Oh, and maybe DON’T invade Russua, because that never seems to work.” ”I beg to differ, ” says the Mongolians
@herman1francis
7 жыл бұрын
History also teaches us to never let some petty reason get in the wat of a good and jolly crusade!
@Zatrakus
7 жыл бұрын
"Never invade Russia" is an incomplete rule. The full version would be "never invade Russia shortly before winter". Or you can do it like Polish did and simply rush for the capitol and take their leader in chains to your seat of power.
@drFocak
7 жыл бұрын
And make sure russia is in Interregnum, thats how the poles did it. The thing is they only stayed for like two years, and apparently(as far as i know) never actually took the Kremlin.
@FuseBit
5 жыл бұрын
@@drFocak As far as I remember from the history lessons, the reason that Poles didn't maintained the power in Russia was the religion. It was super likely that a king of Poland was able to put his son on the Russian throne, but that would only be possible if he converted his faith, which was a bit out of question in Poland.
@Cyfiero
5 жыл бұрын
Well except that is exactly what Napoleon did. Contrary to popular belief, he invaded Russia in the summer and made a beeline for their capital expecting to force them to surrender by winter where he and his troops would then take shelter in Moscow. It backfired when the Russians decided to burn their capital, flee into Siberia, and torch the entire path from Moscow back to the rest of Europe. It takes a long time to march 600,000 soldiers to Moscow. Ironically, perhaps had he invaded in the winter, he would not have had to spend a harrowing retreat from Russia in the winter.
@milobem4458
5 жыл бұрын
Poland didn't really invade Russia. They joined one of the factions in the Russian civil war ("Smuta") and were kind of "invited" to Moscow by their puppet faction. They weren't in position to actually hold Russia by force, so they left when the original deal to put a Polish prince on the Russian throne collapsed due to religious differences. That's not really comparable to the Mongol conquest of Russia.
@casualtaco2154
5 жыл бұрын
Eh, taking Moscow doesn’t matter. Russia is to large.
@Bidmartinlo
7 жыл бұрын
Bloody hipster Vikings...
@zyaicob
7 жыл бұрын
Technically they are Vikings because the word simply means "raider".
@Bidmartinlo
7 жыл бұрын
Of course not, they're hipsters!
@IliyaMoroumetz
7 жыл бұрын
Always showing up a fortenight late with a Starbucks Barrel! Oi!
@kevinmboeik5493
7 жыл бұрын
raiding civilizations before it was cool
@howardhamlin7386
4 жыл бұрын
Bloody punk rockers
@Bufoferrata
5 жыл бұрын
I love the recruiting poster at 1:53. It might have been nice to see a "Your Empire needs YOU!" Like the old Kitchener/Uncle Sam poster from WWI featuring a scowling Rameses III.
@lucillefrancois150
7 жыл бұрын
Another important note about the "Sea People" is that if a group of people have nothing to lose then their gamble is ALWAYS worth it.
@drmadness5958
7 жыл бұрын
Considering that Philistines literally means invaders in Hebrew, I'd say there is a strong possibility of them being sea people..
@Helljumper7200
7 жыл бұрын
Atlantis
@Charles-472
7 жыл бұрын
From what I understand the Bronze Age was a house of cards waiting to collapse. It was too complex for its own good and one flaw crushed the whole system. With that complexity in mind, how long until the Glass Age Collapse?
@GelidGanef
7 жыл бұрын
Joseph Sosa Common misconception: the law of entropy says everything will always get more disordered forever. While it does seem clear from history that all civilizations collapse eventually. It also seems clear that some knowledge and skill transcends each civilizational collapse, and offers its shoulders for the next civilization to stand on. None of that is in defiance of entropy. While it might appear to be an increase in the ordering of human societies, it is only made possible by the existence of the laws of entropy, which ensure that progress and collapse are both, in their own ways, equally eternal. The laws of entropy merely guarantee that, in the next era of history, there will be rubble for us to build on, and tools in the rubble for us to build with. You can call it hubris for people to live their daily lives with no thought for the rubble to come. I'd call it a crime against our children not to put as many tools in the rubble as possible.
@ordinarytree4678
7 жыл бұрын
Charles as soon as we get hit by a Coronal Mass Ejection and have all electronics unusable, we will be fucked. Hopefully only for a decade before we reestablish our electronic systems but in that time anyone could start an old-school invasion and alter the political landscape
@Charles-472
7 жыл бұрын
GelidGanef All it's going to take is a drought in the U.S of a similar scale to the dust bowl which effects California, Texas, and the Great Plains. This would destroy food production and would lead to a rise in food prices, rationing, and eventually, out of desperation, riots and looting. The government would try to crack down on this which would make the U.S appear weak and on the verge of collapse, not to mention that this is happening in other countries too, so the U.S dollar would collapse dragging the world economy down with it. Which would lead to destruction across the world due to riots and revolution coupled with invasions by foreign powers attempting to secure food resources.
@Charles-472
7 жыл бұрын
Ordinary Tree Yeah
@sirstroam
7 жыл бұрын
Obviously you don't realize the ridiculous amount of food the U.S. produces, how much is in storage, how much good food is thrown away, and how many farmers the government pays not to farm. The U.S. exports more food than any other country.
@michaelmisi
5 жыл бұрын
"The Sea people attacked. Something must have displaced them..." Me : "The White Walkers ?" I'll just be leaving now...
@pauldonnelly910
4 жыл бұрын
A suggestion on the Sea Peoples: it's generally a sensible guess that there was MORE trade over a longer distance than seems obvious. That means peoples as far as what's now Venice, and even Spain, might have heard there were rich people across the sea who'd swap valuable stuff for tin. (Which they'd already been trading to get bronze: swapping raw mtaterial for finished edged tools, armor and weapons.) The distinction between trading and raiding wouldn't be clear for maybe 20 centuries, so you'd have heavily armed ships showing up to see first, what the price was, and second, if maybe stealing wasn't a better idea. Just one ship coming back stuffed with loot from Crete or the Levant, one captain saying "if I'd had 10 ships I could have filled them all", and you'd have dozens. The Mediterranean was like the Mississippi before steam ships -- steal anything, get beyond bowshot from the shore, and a competent sailor could not be caught: no pursuer could have a faster ship. A few centuries piling up wealth makes a damned inviting target for hit and run. One other thought: a localized disease from Western Europe that Eastern Mediterranean folks had never developed an immunity for. Given the very small interchange among peoples (just a few traders mingling), it's not unlikely that a few generations at one end of the Mediterranean would be able to infect the other in a way that everybody they didn't kill with swords or arrows would die accursed, with the 90% mortality rates the First Peoples saw in the Western Hemisphere 3k years later. Refugees (particularly women) who survived could have been unwitting carriers.
@lillianb8762
3 жыл бұрын
This entire series is great, but I kudos to your art team! The visual at 3:24 is * chefs kiss*! Visuals to entertain are cool, but visuals that entertain AND clarify are freaking awesome!
@jorgeropero359
6 жыл бұрын
"Never invade Russia" In the corner, Genghis Khan is laughing. (?) Genghis Khan: noobs!
@CzitusCraft
7 жыл бұрын
Never invade Russia? Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth kinda managed to do that, but Zygmunt III Waza refused to let his son Władysław change religion from Catholic to Orthodox, which was a must for his son to become a tsar. (Zygmunt III Waza could create an alliance with Sweden in a personal union, but he was dethroned, because he was Catholic and Sweden - protestant).
@Soulchunk
7 жыл бұрын
Władysław? baby don't hurt me~
@Artur_M.
7 жыл бұрын
Czitus The Zep Oh yes, I would love to see the Polish-Muscovite war (1605-1618) covered by Extra Credits. Preferably from the perspective of hetman Stanisław Żółkiewski, Polish commander who was against this war in the first place, but kept doing his job the best he could. Seriously, the guy absolutely smashed overwhelmingly stronger Russian and Swedish forces at Klushino in 1610, conquered Moscow (sending the freaking Tsar as a trophy back to Poland), and then sat with the Russian boyars like "Hey guys! I never wanted to fight and occupy you. Can we find some solution, that will bring lasting pace?". Only to wach his plan of compromise falling apart, due to Polish king being a moron. Still Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth temporary regained much of the territories lost by Grand Duchy of Lithuania to Moscow during previous century, so this war was a limited Polish-Lithuanian success in the end. Ofcourse there is also this whole insane story of how this war started, with some rogue Polish noblemen acting on their own in support of false pretenders to the Russian throne.
@CzitusCraft
7 жыл бұрын
I see what you did there :p
@ajakubtrix1
7 жыл бұрын
Leo Gille XDDDD
@Stand_By_For_Mind_Control
6 жыл бұрын
There are basically TWO instances of 'don't invade Russia' (Napoleon and Hitler). There about 200 instances of 'by all means but please be gentle'.
@nelsonchereta816
7 жыл бұрын
Don't invade Russia from the West. If you happen to be Mongols, you're good.
@pflernak
7 жыл бұрын
Nah! The cheated by invading from the east.
@mrbenoit5018
5 жыл бұрын
Nelson Chereta unless you are polish-lithuanian
@КуртШин
6 жыл бұрын
Hello, as a guy who spend his free time recreating the old ones culture and fight systems, there is one thing - the thrakians. First they were construct of 83 tribes, every one of witch act of its own. Mycenaeans were part of them. Some of them communicate with Egypt and other countries (one fact is the story of Zalmoksis (or however he is written), God of eternal life (he study the art rebirth in Egypt). Thtrakians were "made" out of 3 types of tribes - soldiers, priests and workers. After the Big fluid they start constructing their temples in the highs, to prevent floods. They were capable of forging iron (The first ones to do it), they were capable of traveling thru sea and they have really complex weapons, with which they were capable of destroying the bronze civilizations. As for Mycenaeans and why they were destroyed - well we can see that Thrakians don't like each other (like Omir write in Illiada). I see by my own eyes Thrakians temples at age of 7 000 years, some of which were really big and impressive (Perperikon for an example).
@jamesshrimp2961
5 жыл бұрын
5:02 the Egyptians said they threw the belongings of the sea people into the ocean so maybe we just haven't found their iron weapons because they're on the ocean floor? Have historians checked?
@eyuin5716
7 жыл бұрын
I think the Sea Peoples could have been the Nuragic civilization from modern day Sardinia.
@bringsik100
5 жыл бұрын
Why they invade? When they can trade sardines or mackerel for wealth?
@jo1italianstyle
7 жыл бұрын
The sea people are the White Walkers
@jasonssavitt5297
7 жыл бұрын
Y Me very few cultures welcome refugees, even fewer where the economy is based on subsistance agriculture
@danprotheroe
7 жыл бұрын
'hey refugee, sell me your kids for this half a rotten dog' some welcome that was.
@hanssmirnov9946
7 жыл бұрын
The sea people Ramses III is talking about, are the Phoenicians (the world for sea-people is literally, "Phoenicians"). Note that this is the Ramses III almost 700 years AFTER the Bronze Age Collapse of the Middle Kingdom.
@lordharambe3418
7 жыл бұрын
jo1italianstyle no they were the greyjoys
@lordharambe3418
7 жыл бұрын
Or it was the khaleesi
@HUASHU03
7 жыл бұрын
I love you guys You make history fun and now you have one more new subscriber
@m.m.3133
7 жыл бұрын
Great video!!! I started to watch this channel about 2 weeks ago and I am in love. I find this subject specially interesting and so I am really liking this bronze age collapse videos. I hope you keep up the great work, you are spreading a lot of knowledge to a lot of people! have a great day!!
@Mikebumpful
2 жыл бұрын
I've always found it hard to imagine that the «sea people» would have come from islands in the West Mediterranean, a hypothesis that many people seem to believe. Those were basically neolithic populations compared to the advanced Bronze Age cities and empires in the Levant. How could they have the technology to ferry forces across the ocean and defeat these civilizations?
@moskaumaster1594
Жыл бұрын
I mean they werent neolithic many of them had metal tools. One of the most likely groups to be one of the Sea Peoples the Terramare culture in northern Italy were (in the areas that count for this such as metal working and seafaring) just as advanced as the levantine cultures.
@ronellticar431
6 жыл бұрын
"Maybe don't invade Russia." You had me laughing. Haha.
@hornherodog
7 жыл бұрын
5:18 "So what does that leave us?" ATLANTIS
@jimmyc.491
5 жыл бұрын
0:25 Whoa... I got some flashbacks to Breath of the Wild there.
@Gamerad360
7 жыл бұрын
What your missing is perhaps another civilization came to rise, and invaded, it doesn't necessarily mean that the bronze age empires became weak, but other empires outside the main ones become strong and attacked.
@Rozenkratz
7 жыл бұрын
I think this has been the series I have liked most so far, I had no idea about the bronze age collapse since I began watching this. Very interesting stuff
@jeremykiahsobyk102
5 жыл бұрын
Should have loaded a save back when everything was plentiful and planned for the long term.
@boomertunes4410
4 жыл бұрын
Bro they were noobs and never saved.
@docslastname2711
7 жыл бұрын
What was the main goal of the sea people.
@yogsothoth7594
7 жыл бұрын
We don't have any of their own history recorded but i'd guess wealth, glory, woman, maybe land.
@CasperKersten
7 жыл бұрын
Same as the vikings, I presume.
@Kardia_of_Rhodes
7 жыл бұрын
Except the Vikings eventually stopped raiding and realized that trading was more profitable in the long run. The Sea People just came in, raided, and then disappeared. They have more in common with The Huns than The Vikings.
@yudistiraliem135
7 жыл бұрын
To crash the bronze age, with no survivor.
@mustang6172
7 жыл бұрын
4:14 Unless you are the Mongols. Sorry, thought I was watching Crash Course for a moment.
@lerzidmarino5868
7 жыл бұрын
Or the poles
@mrbenoit5018
5 жыл бұрын
Lerzid Marino or the WALpoles...
@leeneufeld4140
7 жыл бұрын
Hi I put a comment in the discussion area of your main page, but there doesn't seem to be much action there, so I'm going to put it here too. I just discovered Extra Credits a little while ago, and I've already watched many hours of extra history episodes. I really am enjoying them. I would love to see an episode about Charles Drew, who developed the technique of blood transfusion and saved millions of lives. Thanks for all the hard work you put into these videos :)
@TheRealE.B.
7 жыл бұрын
I remember listening to a scholarly talk on this subject, and I remember that message in a "kiln." I can't remember if it was originally thought to have been in a kiln but later determined to have been in an overturned basket, or vice versa.
@MrChummyChuck
7 жыл бұрын
FYI about the Russia comment a lot of people have invaded Russia and won. Eg the Polish-Muscovite war, WW1 Germany, and the Mongols to name a few and all won winter campaigns. It's only because an French megalomaniac and Nazi Cosplaying as him failed so bad that we have this myth. By the Way the Nazis began on June 22 and Napoleon on July 24th in the middle of summer.
@MrChummyChuck
7 жыл бұрын
By the Way this show is something I really look forward to every week this is just a miner note.
@DinsRune
4 жыл бұрын
"Attacking waves of sea people" Get outta here, Fomorians, this isn't Ireland
@lethallizard963
7 жыл бұрын
Yes, nobody has successfully invaded Russian... except, wait for it... The Mongols
@lerzidmarino5868
7 жыл бұрын
And the poles
@Sciller4
7 жыл бұрын
Gethin Topps Mongols never invaded Russia. Rus on the other end...
@lethallizard963
7 жыл бұрын
Marijan Tadijal "As part of the Mongol invasion of Europe, the Mongol Empire invaded Kievan Rus' in the 13th century, destroying numerous cities, including Ryazan, Kolomna, Moscow, Vladimir, and Kiev". This is what it says on the internet, and therefore I count that as invading Russia, maybe not all of Russia, but it's still invading Russia.
@lethallizard963
7 жыл бұрын
Lerzid Marino And yes. Yeah, the poles have invaded Kiev Rus. So I'd say your justified by saying that. But Russia have also invaded Poland.
@lerzidmarino5868
7 жыл бұрын
Ofcourse I'm just stating that the Polish along with the Mongols invaded Russia , ofcourse unlike the Mongols the Poles didn't fully subjugate the Russians like the Mongols but they did occupy Moscow , manage to sow dissent across the Grand Tsardom of Russia, and placed the the Russian court into complete turmoil thus causing the Smutnoe Vremya , the Time of Troubles. Also the Poles didn't invade the Kievan Rus but the The Tsardom of Russia . The Kievan Rus was long gone by the Polish invasion. ( The Kievan Rus reign ended in the early 1200s whilse the Poles invaded during the 1600s
@andrejkiricov48
7 жыл бұрын
There is an Egyptian document from that era that identifies the Sea People by name. They were actually Greeks. With bronze armor. The story of Troy seems to align with that idea as well.
@JL-tq7fj
7 жыл бұрын
I saw a lecture a few months ago somewhere here on the Tubes of You, in which some historians and archaelogists were discussing the idea of a systems collapse in post-Roman Britain. They pointed out that the settlement pattern, the artifacts and signs of industry and craftsmanship, agricultural techniques, etc, were all noticeably less well developed than the pre-Roman Iron age society in Britain. The idea was that with the collapse of infrastructure and security as the Roman state dissolved, trade became more difficult, meaning more reliance on local production. But in many cases the local industry was simply not very well developed, due to the fact that they had to suddenly reboot industries to produce goods that had been imported from other parts of the empire for generations. The knowledge and supply chain simply wasn't there anymore. Additionally, with the collapse of efficient, coherent central administration, no rational economic policy could be enacted. So they ended up with a level of social development that was markedly worse than before the Romans had even showed up.
@neutralfellow9736
7 жыл бұрын
4:30 - That hypothesis is also quite flawed, as iron weaponry would not be superior at all to bronze weaponry at the time.
@ubabo8276
3 жыл бұрын
Кто тоже от мудреныча ?
@dowmont6209
3 жыл бұрын
Я.
@maratprofff1485
3 жыл бұрын
@@dowmont6209 головка от хуя)))
@dowmont6209
3 жыл бұрын
@@maratprofff1485 гыгыгы
@mildsalsa6697
7 жыл бұрын
im going to start a new game of civ 5 what civ shall i pick
@PittBullBytes
7 жыл бұрын
Assyria
@ATLevi-qw2su
7 жыл бұрын
Canada
@ninjolav
7 жыл бұрын
There actually is a Sea peoples mod on the workshop: steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=497220625&searchtext=
@thesenate2180
7 жыл бұрын
byzantium
@Corvin_
7 жыл бұрын
Delete civ 5, install EU 4, thank me later.
@GeoffreyJohns
4 жыл бұрын
From what I have read, this is an excellent summary
@fucktardickis
7 жыл бұрын
Extra credits actually got the intro wrong here, the tablet wasn't inside a kiln, it was inside a basket of tablets that had fallen from a taller structure, then when the basket rotted away, it left a space similar to the look of a kiln. Archaeologists theorise that the basket was on a second floor building and had been dropped upside down outside during the destruction of the structure or city. It was in that basket with another 70 odd tablets, so if it had been delivered or if it was un delivered we do not know.
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