I just got this one too. Was super hesitant to mess w/ the N100 because it has no performance cores, but it's surprisingly snappy with an SSD and a good internet connection.
@mobby_6kl203
Жыл бұрын
Thanks for addressing the power question! :) Looks like Intel really is boosting these Alder Lake-N processors much more than previous Tremont CPUs. Which makes sense considering that we're seeing 2x performance compared to the N5105 for example.
@Robtech
Жыл бұрын
No worries. Might make it into a KZitem short I can point to whenever I get the question.
@olafonm
Жыл бұрын
It would be perfect if this Beelink had power delivery via USB-C.
@gr0undc0ntrol
Жыл бұрын
USB-C + DP Alt Mode + Power Delivery would allow to connect portable monitors without any additional power supply. Both power and display data would come from the port. Still waiting for a budget mini PC that has this. First one gets my money.
@wfthkttn
Жыл бұрын
Yes, otherwise you could pass-trough via single cable from the display. I think I'll just get a 12V e-marked cable with a barrel connector on it and stick it into the powerbank. UPS for poor people ^_^
@karper
Жыл бұрын
@@gr0undc0ntrolMele Quieter 3C has this
@Wojtek-J
10 ай бұрын
If I'm not wrong, Chuwi Larkbox X has Power Delivery with Alt Mode USB C ...
@rexrecio8304
Жыл бұрын
It would be nice comparing these latest low end processors against the flagship processors of previous years.
@funkified-
10 ай бұрын
You got a new sub, purely based on your humour. The review was good too lol
@renegade_patriot
Жыл бұрын
Just picked up one of these to use as a PFsense router. It was the only option I could find that supports 2.5' SSD's AND had dual 2.5GBPS LAN at that price. Other options in this form factor were hundreds of dollars more expensive and overkill for my application.
@ShimmyX
10 ай бұрын
Hey a bit of a long shot, but if you see this, any way you can point me to how you did it? I currently have the S12 pro as my media server, but want to upgrade to eq12 to have the dual lan, so that I could use it to filter out the ads like KZitem ads on yhe the TV. Not sure it's even possible?
@AgentZeroNine1
Жыл бұрын
Can't wait to see: 1. A fanless device using these e-core only CPUs, especially one with 8 cores on a laptop 2. A mini PCs and laptops with the N300 and N305 3. The Crestmont e-cores upcoming with 14th gen. Hopefully Intel focuses on efficiency over power for them
@varianbohling251
Жыл бұрын
Good video. Really curious about the EQ Pro. 8 threads and DDR5. Could be interesting.
@anhtunguyen111
Жыл бұрын
A few things to add. This unit can be powered off a USB battery by using a DC 5.5x2.5mm Power PD Charge Cable. The higher end EQ12 Pro draws 15 -17w under load so I suspect that this will draw less power. This does not support powering from the USB-C port. The Intel AX101 wifi card included doesn't have any support other than Windows sadly. This and the Pro version should make a good homelab server but I was only able to get Windows Server 2019 and ESXi 8.0 installed and working on it.
@Z3RN0
Жыл бұрын
Great video 👍
@karper
Жыл бұрын
I would really love to see a review of the Asus PN42, because it is very similar to this one except its fanless.
@evolfox855
Жыл бұрын
Will you test the EQ12 Pro N305?
@Robtech
Жыл бұрын
If Beelink sends it to me, sure.
@samh5886
Жыл бұрын
Would be good if you can show TDP of SOC in your gaming/emulation tests. Even though you upped the TDP upper limit on this, I doubt it actually uses much more than the morefine one in games
@Robtech
Жыл бұрын
Good suggestion.. Will do from now on.
Жыл бұрын
Not sure how recommend this mini pc is when you can buy a ser 5 or ser 5 pro and disable the turbo boost which makes the mini pc almost fanless. In any case it is amazing Beelink keep releasing new products!! Excellent review as usual!
@dakkon74
Жыл бұрын
Interesting idea. Have you done any testing with this? Is it as fast as this PC with the turbo turned off?
Жыл бұрын
@@dakkon74 it is because i am using a ser 5 pro with ryzen 5600h at 99% in windows 11 max cpu performance (under energy settings) almost at no fan working and when it is is barely audible. Just changed the thermal paste with mx-4, but probably won't change anything at all.
@dakkon74
Жыл бұрын
@ Nice!. I would not be comfortable changing the paste, but hopefully it is as quiet as it comes.
Жыл бұрын
@@dakkon74 yeap, you can try. I also removed that one "SSD cooler" as it really doesn't make any changes really.
@ShoruKen
Жыл бұрын
Isn't the Ser5 twice the price?
@graysonpeddie
5 ай бұрын
I could see myself using this NUC as a router due to the dual 2.5Gbit LAN ports. One for WAN and one for WAN. :) Just put a VLAN-capable rack-mounted 2.5Gbit switch in between the NUC and my devices and I'm good to go! :)
@Andrew-gp4fc
Жыл бұрын
@Robtech -- I'm having trouble getting the usb-c port on the Beelink EQ12 to work in Ubuntu server 22.04 LTS and Ubuntu server 23.04. When I try to mount an external hard drive to the usb-c port, I get an input/output error. Oddly this hard drive works perfectly fine with the usb-c port on my Beelink U59 running Ubuntu server 22.04 LTS. Any thoughts?
@Robtech
Жыл бұрын
Have you tried another USB-C device? First have to rule out whether the port could be faulty or not.
@Andrew-gp4fc
Жыл бұрын
@@Robtech Thanks for replying. I would have replied sooner but I've been digging into this issue. I know this is a long post, but please take the 2 minutes to read it, especially given your glowing endorsement of the Beelink EQ12. I've discovered the root of the problem with the EQ12's usb-c port. The plastic case is probably 1mm or 2mm too think and prevents the standard usb-c cable from fully engaging the port. The solution is to get a usb-c cable with a 10mm connector. I bought mine on Amazon (search for "UNIDOPRO Flat USB-C 10mm connector"). Now... I've run into another challenge with the EQ12's usb ports! The usb type-a ports (at least on the front) are under powered. I have two Google coral TPU USBs--both work fine on my older Minisforum GK41. However, they keep dropping off the Beelink EQ12. I am pretty sure this is a power issue. In your video, you show how to boost power to the CPU. Is there a way to boost power to the usb ports? If not, it is a major negative characteristic for an otherwise very fine computer. I would greatly appreciate any insight you may have from your experience working with mini pc. In the mean time, I am going to test my hypothesis with a powered-usb hub. It would be such a shame if I have to use a powered usb hub instead of just booting the power inside the Beelink EQ12.
@wocket42
Жыл бұрын
Thx for testing out AV1 (h/w) decoding.
@bobbymoss6160
Жыл бұрын
LMAO you're so feisty in this video. I picked this up to replace my laptop. Update: Well, this is a disappointment. After using it for almost a month, the ports on my EQ12 is starting to crap out and hangs the system during restart. I can't use the USB-C port when the adjacent USB-A is occupied by the KB/M wireless dongle. I can't use both USB-A ports in the front concurrently either. I had such high hopes for this web browser/video player.
@Trusteft
Жыл бұрын
Hand-j reference in a mini pc review. That's a first. Nice.
@dave_r
Жыл бұрын
Rob, Rob, Rob: You have complained numerous times, fairly, about getting a mini without the appropriate power connector for AUS; this one has it and you don't give it credit... One question: It seemed to me that the noise on this unit (both idle and at power), while they may not have been all that loud in either case, had a really annoying whine/something, that bothered me a lot more than louder, but "whooshier" sound would have. Was that just my PC, or did it sound like that in 'real life'? Fun review though, and it's nice to see the extra cooling fan starting to appear on low-end units.
@Robtech
Жыл бұрын
A travel adapter? Meh, where's my Aussie power supply. It wasn't noticeable from the 30cm distance. I put the mic right up to the unit otherwise it wouldn't pick up much noise. If it was a lot louder, it could be a problem, but this one's very quiet. The NUC essential is more annoying.
@chromerims
6 ай бұрын
Great video 👍 Thank you for your excellent videos. If the CPU fan breaks (not the ssd/ram fan revealed at 1:40), how hard would it be to get the mobo out? At 2:14, understandably you didn't go further below. But wondering. Kindest regards, friends and neighbours.
@Robtech
6 ай бұрын
Usually a pain to remove the board, but doable. Finding a similar replacement fan might not be that easy. Another part is more likely to die than the fan though based on experience. I've had a few minis die over a decade and the fan was never the issue, always the board itself.
@chromerims
6 ай бұрын
@@Robtech 👍 May you and yours be filled with joy, merriment, riches, health and peace. Thanks.
@chromerims
6 ай бұрын
@@Robtech By the way, a replacement for EQ12's secondary ssd/ram fan (14.11.02550000 model 3505) is basically nowhere on the Internet. I think SEI-12 uses the same ssd/ram fan.
@Robtech
6 ай бұрын
Yeah, finding spare parts for these budget minis is going to be a challenge
@אמיראבני-נ7ס
4 ай бұрын
I dont understand , i can add another ssd hardisk on the sata slot? up to 2tb?
@48MSAM-zk4le
Жыл бұрын
Hey there RobTech, gained a new Sub w your great reviews on Mini-PC's... Have you found anything better since the review of the EQ12 @ around the same price?
@Robtech
Жыл бұрын
Hey, you can check out the top 5 video I did here if there's anything you prefer: kzitem.info/news/bejne/lJ6AlqKegJaAnoY
@budiisnadi
Жыл бұрын
2:04 I read somewhere that DDR5 is designed to run like dual channel even with one stick of RAM. Is that true?
@Robtech
Жыл бұрын
Yes, I've read that too. The only way to see how well that holds up would be to do a test with single and dual channel DDR4 Vs DDR5 on an iGPU with high memory bandwidth requirements. Can't do it here, though.
@twitchgirls-9005
Жыл бұрын
@@Robtech in topton dual rank ?
@oblivionlord1242
Жыл бұрын
I can confirm, I've read and seen this elsewhere, it does appear to be true
@feahnorl
Жыл бұрын
@@Robtech I have a beelink mini s12 pro with n100 and 16 gb ddr4. I can test it if you like. Just tell me what to test and I’ll do it.
@MA-im3ko
Жыл бұрын
Which device of these 2 similar priced devices would you recommend? Beelink S12 pro, with 16g/500 Beelink EQ12, with 8g/500 Only pro of the s12 is 8gb ram more. However EQ12 Pro is -DDR5, vs s12 ddr4 -2x Intel 2.5gbit ethernet chipset vs s12 1x 1gbit Realtek chipset -system fan vs s12 no system fan
@Robtech
Жыл бұрын
I haven't reviewed the S12 Pro, so I can't speak to its performance. I guess it comes down to if you need the extras or not. I also have a top 5 video based on price here: kzitem.info/news/bejne/lJ6AlqKegJaAnoY
@pixelbat
2 ай бұрын
I have this one, but the 2.5g lan never worked, stuck on 1gb even tho my entire network is 2.5 :|
@ryanlemieux3323
21 күн бұрын
Sure you didn't get the EQ13? They downgraded network ports from 2.5->1Gbit from the EQ12.
@nawaf398
5 ай бұрын
Does the AX101 problem still exist on Linux?
@dosdaysareover7781
Жыл бұрын
What benchmark tool or tests are used for measuring the video encoding speed?
@Robtech
Жыл бұрын
Handbrake
@CarlosDeAnda
Жыл бұрын
Hey, thanx for the review! Would it work for minor Graphic Design? Illustrator, After Effects, Photoshop?
@Robtech
Жыл бұрын
Not sure on After Effects, but should be okay for Photoshop and Illustrator.
@CarlosDeAnda
Жыл бұрын
@@Robtech Thanx!
@edalder2000
Жыл бұрын
I would love a MiniPC. The heaviest things that I do are streaming video and streaming music. I assume this MiniPC would work just fine, right?
@Robtech
Жыл бұрын
Yeah, it's capable for that.
@twitchgirls-9005
Жыл бұрын
@@Robtech can stream video 1080p -60 fps (obs) ?
@kamolhengkiatisak1527
Жыл бұрын
Wonder if 2.5Gb Lan connection for what? And with 2 local LAN ports at that! I don't even bother to connect my mini PC via LAN port even though my house router is only 10 meter away. Wifi is good enough as I don't play online game.
@ianoderon3127
Жыл бұрын
Some people like me can benefit from that. We can use it as router (pfsense, opensense, openwrt).
@riyanthonididi
Жыл бұрын
How about speed of the SSD? Can they works likely NVMe SSD generally on the market? Then What about the Alternative video editing softwere. Like a Capcut. Because Capcut windows version its really worth for easy task
@TestAccount-pm1oi
6 ай бұрын
Why in the world would you ever use software made by bytedance?
@twitchgirls-9005
Жыл бұрын
need test with ryzen 3550h mini pc. Who is better?
@Robtech
Жыл бұрын
I haven't tested it, but as far as I can tell, the 3550H has slightly lower single core, much higher multicore and graphics performance. It also draws more power.
@twitchgirls-9005
Жыл бұрын
@@Robtech performance in graphics help him play 8k video?
@wocket42
Жыл бұрын
@Twitch Girls - Стримерши Твича for efficiet video playing, h/w decoding helps. If h/w decoding supports you resolution/codes combination, gfx/cpu power doesn't matter anymore.
@martinm.1967
Жыл бұрын
How to build a good Mini-PC?
@Tkarma77
Жыл бұрын
Could this run Photoshop ok?
@Robtech
Жыл бұрын
Yeah, photoshop would be okay. I wouldn't run Premiere on it.
@i_dont_want_a_handle
9 ай бұрын
4:49 what will happen if I set that to be 35W (5W higher than Intel's number)?
@Robtech
9 ай бұрын
Will run at the maximum it can handle, which is 30W. That's the hard limit.
@i_dont_want_a_handle
9 ай бұрын
@@Robtech gotcha, thanks!
@digvjbeniwal
Жыл бұрын
Would you recommend this over MINISFORUM UM450?
@Robtech
Жыл бұрын
Not sure how the pricing compares for you, but the UM560 5600H barebones for $219USD is a pretty good deal.
@digvjbeniwal
Жыл бұрын
@@Robtech Here in UK EQ12 is for £270 and Minisforum UM450 is £295. Confused between which one should I go for, your suggestion is much needed!!
@Robtech
Жыл бұрын
The 4500U will easily outperform the N100 in most tasks. I'd go with that for the small price difference.
@neilquinn
Жыл бұрын
4% multicore performance for +50% wattage def doesn't seem worth it :) Goes to show how sensitive the efficiency curves are for these cpus. Couple of other notes: the noise is really low/quiet on this. The recording in this video exaggerates the tone so don't be scared of it. Only thing the Morefine may do better is I believe someone tested it at 4w idle instead of 10w idle for this Beelink.
@mobby_6kl203
Жыл бұрын
I don't think it actually uses 50% more power, at 8:15 you can se it goes from 33 to 34W at the wall.
@dakkon74
Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the comments on noise. It did sound loud in the video. I wish he had a mac mini he could though in these tests for a noise comparison, as it seems that is the gold standard for silent computing(outside of fanless designs)
@neilquinn
Жыл бұрын
@@dakkon74 I'll see if I can record it, but I can tell you that sitting on the couch about 8' away I can't really hear it at all. It's quite quiet.
@dakkon74
Жыл бұрын
@@neilquinn I would be using it as a desktop PC though, so it only be like 2 ft from my head
@neilquinn
Жыл бұрын
@@dakkon74 Right, it's still pretty quiet. Obviously no miniPC is going to be as quiet as like a desktop with 120mm fans though you know.
@3dhYT
Жыл бұрын
Nice CPU.
@wfthkttn
Жыл бұрын
Nice review. Can you test if it supports 32GB ram modules?
@Robtech
Жыл бұрын
Yep, it worked with my stick.
@wfthkttn
Жыл бұрын
@@Robtech You are a legend! Thank you for replying. Do you remember which memory it was?
@snagboi
Жыл бұрын
Would you reocmmend i purchae insurance for $30? Is it sturdy?
@Robtech
Жыл бұрын
It's already covered by a 1 year warranty, so I wouldn't no.
@snagboi
Жыл бұрын
@@Robtech from where? Amazon?
@Robtech
Жыл бұрын
Hmm, on Amazon it says to contact Beelink for warranty information. But on Beelink's website the warranty policy is 12 months so it should be the same www.bee-link.com/warrantyservices
@figu3ira1
Жыл бұрын
I'm pretending to get this one, only to use for video editing, and KZitem I just play games with xcloud so probably it's the best I can afford for now ;)
@wocket42
Жыл бұрын
Not an expert, but wouldn't you need/want lots of gfx execution units? These have very few. You might want to get the cheapest PC with the highest gfx EU count from an older generation that still does the h/w encoding you need?
@5cent
Жыл бұрын
Зачем целоваться с компьютером? Недеетесь что у вас родится совместный процессор?
@Tkarma77
Жыл бұрын
The mini pc is a minefield for the noob.. I am looking for a mini pc for photo editing.. large files.. keep looking at Mac mini pro but would like to avoid Mac and overpriced apple stuff.. please help 🙏 price range ideally 500 to 800 euro.. thanks!
@Robtech
Жыл бұрын
Sure is. Everything is Awesome™ reviewers have been screwing their viewers for years. The Beelink SER5 is regularly on special and great bang for buck. I should be reviewing the SER5 Pro soon.
@Tkarma77
Жыл бұрын
@@Robtech I bought the ser6 pro.. thanks for pointer in right direction
@kurtnelle
Жыл бұрын
Just pay the money Loius
@francocozzo7235
Жыл бұрын
FIRST!!
@Robtech
Жыл бұрын
Congratulations, you won the Internet 🏆
@gumbywwf83
Жыл бұрын
Now that’s a review, no fucks given. Subscribed.
@AFiB1999
Күн бұрын
Will a 5TB HDD fit inside this mini PC? I was wondering if there is enough clearance for an HDD instead of an SSD. Thanks!
@tehaiks
15 күн бұрын
Great video! Super informative with a spot-on approach to the technical aspects. Really helpful and funny-ish. :D Thanks a lot!
@Zwitefli
Жыл бұрын
This would be a great 24/7 mini-pc for a Plex server, isn't it ? ;-) Thanks for this review ;-)
@ShoruKen
Жыл бұрын
My EQ12 is arriving today! It is an excellent Plex server (and can handle other self-hosted apps). I already have a Beelink U59 (N5105) running Plex with HW transcoding and a dozen other Docker containers.
@ShoruKen
Жыл бұрын
Why buy another? Proxmox replication! Then I'll buy a 3rd to run Proxmox Ceph (think of it like RAID, but scale & replicate whole servers).
@Zwitefli
Жыл бұрын
@@ShoruKen I can confirm : it's enough for a Plex server, power consumption is very low. Very well for that price ;-) !! 😀
@Br0adCastYourS3lf
Жыл бұрын
Let's hope that my comment sticks this time. Must have rubbed the algo the wrong way. 05:26 "No joke. After going through like 30 videos on KZitem, I finally found one that actually had AV1 support." KZitem's channel named "KZitem Developers" ( @youtubedevs ) has a playlist named "AV1 Beta Launch Playlist" with 14 transcoded AV1 videos for testing. From the description: "At time of writing, these transcodes are encoded at a very high bitrate for decoder performance testing.". Forget the instruction in the playlist description to set "Prefer AV1 for SD". Choose "Auto (recommended)" or "Always prefer AV1" instead. We're 5 years on and hardware AV1 decoding exists. ;)
@Br0adCastYourS3lf
Жыл бұрын
There is also a r/AV1 subreddit with many links to AV1 content for testing.
@Br0adCastYourS3lf
Жыл бұрын
Netflix Open Content website.
@twitchgirls-9005
Жыл бұрын
n95 can av1 ?
@Robtech
Жыл бұрын
Yep, the Alder Lake-N CPUs have hardware decoding support. There will be a N95 AV1 test soon.
@twitchgirls-9005
Жыл бұрын
@@Robtech i need test in adobe premiere or stream 1080p 60 fps on OBS
@Robtech
Жыл бұрын
I wouldn't use these budget CPUs for Premiere at all.
@twitchgirls-9005
Жыл бұрын
@@Robtech for test only
@MrPir84free
Жыл бұрын
I like mine in gray.. Thought the white ones were just units using linux.
@alanburgess2203
Жыл бұрын
Would this mini PC be suitable for a mini virtual pinball machine I'm thinking of making, I need the 2 HDI for the back glass and play field, but the play field is only a 13" screen, see mini lol, any advice most appreciated, cheers
@Robtech
Жыл бұрын
Based on the suggested requirements here www.vpforums.org/index.php?showtopic=35171, it looks like you'd need a lot more than what this mini can do. I'd be looking at something like a Ryzen 5500U or higher. Best to ask them in the forums.
@SandboChang
Жыл бұрын
Can the WiFi 6 card be replaced? It looks like the antenna were glued.
@Robtech
Жыл бұрын
Yeah, it can be. Just need to remove the black rubber glue substance they used. I had to remove some to lift the M.2 drive as it was stuck together.
@davidchristensen811
Жыл бұрын
I would not suggest it. The antenna connectors are very fragile, and connected to the factory AX101 WiFi card with blackmax (similar to super glue). While you could be very careful, it is still likely to damage the antenna connectors. That would make any replacement card useless, unless you install new antennas. (which is possible)
@nicolascarrion5055
Жыл бұрын
They claim the DP USB C has ALT Mode, has somebody tested if it works just with one USB C cable on a 65W ALT mode monitor?
@Robtech
Жыл бұрын
Supports display out, not USB power delivery to power the mini. I'm using it with a USB-C to DP cable to output display.
@ObsidianMercian
Жыл бұрын
Love the humour in your videos 😂
@feahnorl
Жыл бұрын
Is the difference between ddr4 and ddr5 significant with a n100 cpu?
@Robtech
Жыл бұрын
Not much, no
@Urosaurus
Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the power limit info. Trigkey seems to sell this same thing. Who knew?
@Robtech
Жыл бұрын
Yeah, Trigkey uses the same manufacturer, AZW.
@RobertoCarlos-tn1iq
Жыл бұрын
how much of your personal money did this cost?
@Robtech
Жыл бұрын
It was a free sample, as mentioned in the video and description
@shephusted2714
Жыл бұрын
much better on the way though - the new amd mobile chips will be major improvements - they are out now - basically after being delayed
@Robtech
Жыл бұрын
New Athlon chips incoming? AMD doesn't seem to care about the budget segment. It's been all Intel for the last few years
@wocket42
Жыл бұрын
Which chips exactly? AMD re-releases all previous generations every year in new combinations. Doesn't mean you'll get machines with them. For the latest AMD mobile chips, you'll probably need to buy a laptop.
@darryltoombs1076
Жыл бұрын
After this review I have decided that I will get one of these. I don't game on my pc so no problems there just do some stuff on Blender and Gimp which this will do very well for me. I will be deleting W11 and running KDE neon plasma 5.27.4 on the NVME drive with my older SSD in the drive bay and everything should work including WiFi but I will just use Ethernet if there is a problem but there shouldn't be. Thanks for the review and look forward to all of your videos 👍
@Robtech
Жыл бұрын
Enjoy
@attilahooper
Жыл бұрын
1:28, like wtf !? LOL. I'm subscribing for that commentary alone.
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