I came across Wayne 10 years ago and he helped retain my faith in the BOM and the gospel contained within. Awesome stuff as always
@DestroyerOfWords
5 күн бұрын
I went to a fireside at KS Stake in 1981 where that BYU 'scholar' you mentioned was on his South America campaign. I went in as an open mind knowing nothing about the Heartland model. There was a spirit of darkness and confusion I can't begin to describe. It was past that point where my journey began. I did not know where I was headed or what to do, but the Lord fed me in the wilderness for almost 20 years until I found Wayne May. These last 20 years have been filled with amazement, personal revelation, and even dreams. There is absolutely no doubt in my mind or my testimony of the Book of Mormon. THANK YOU!
@Thehaystack7999
9 күн бұрын
I love Wayne May, he is always on top of it!
@Brandon-Is-Not-Fooled
8 күн бұрын
Ahhh, Wayne May. What a breath of fresh air that man is. God bless him. Ive been listening to his stuff for years. He has more honesty and integrity in his pinky than any of those BYU or Michigan scholars. He knows his stuff and not afraid to admit the truth and share the real full story and facts. Zion Media really should do an interview with him sometime. Im sure Chief Midega would love talking to him. Get those 2 together and wow, what a conversation that would be!
@Aristotle33
7 күн бұрын
Brandon, you may be fooled by Wayne's enthusiasm to mistakenly believe that the Hopewell were any of the Nephites described in the Book of Mormon. The real question isn't whether we can draw conections between native American peoples and the Book of Mormon, it is whether a theory can withstand disconfirming evidence. That's the true test. How does Wayne's integrity hold up in that respect?
@LatterDayChad
9 күн бұрын
Wayne may is a gift this is so fascinating
@QBurd
9 күн бұрын
Truly a treasure
@ReedHansonRattie
8 күн бұрын
I have been saying that for years, well at least since 1992.
@weaverlance
8 күн бұрын
@LatterDayChad So great. Cant wait to get the rest of the story of these Land of Many Waters/Land Northward/Mulek groups. I'm convinced a lot of these date to about 300-800 AD. And was influenced by several Old world groups that were continually trading with the new world. (some from Britain, some from Tunisia, Some from Byzantium. Its why the artwork looks so much like that found on medieval manuscripts. Kind of that almost cartoonish style. Also why the Decalogue stone in New Mexico has Byzantine Greek connections. Also why the Oklahoma and Wisconsin Viking rune stones exist (from about 800 AD). Also how words like 'adiou' and Pauline undertones got into the Book of Mormon.
@LatterDayChad
8 күн бұрын
@@weaverlance oh yeah there’s definitely trade routes that went through I think what Midegah and the meso Americans he’s working with are gonna bring forwards is gonna be more of a secular historical record about the people of Lehi and their descendants that will talk about their trade routes and other groups that came in and mixed in with them
@weaverlance
8 күн бұрын
@@LatterDayChad cant wait. so cool that Brian Nettles is working on translations. awesome stuff.
@StarKiller1423
8 күн бұрын
Amazing video even non Mormons believe the mound builders are Israelites and it’s cool to see the official translator for the Ojibwe nation feels the same way
@AnEx-MormonInformant
8 күн бұрын
Not many non members buy that the Hopewell were Israelites. That is a 19th century belief that has been debunked, and not a serious historian buys it
@TimothyBaldwin-p9j
9 күн бұрын
Rebecca Bearce was my great great grandmother, Wampanoag through Massasoit. She was the first lamonites baptized into the church in this dispensation. Baptized by Levi Hancock.
@LatterDayChad
9 күн бұрын
Legendary
@k.l.hancock8683
9 күн бұрын
Hey that’s my great great great uncle!
@stacihymas4539
8 күн бұрын
Same!
@dianepuckett5088
7 күн бұрын
I am related to the Bearce family also . The original Bearce came from England as a gypsy if I remember correctly. They were important in the town of Barnstable, Massachusetts. Mr. Austin Bestce married a Wampanoag Indian. So, hello Cousin 😊
@caboaddict
3 күн бұрын
I’m related to both Massasoit (13th great maternal grandfather) and John Alden (13th great paternal grandfather) who are central characters in the Thanksgiving tradition and mutual self defense pact. Rebecca Bearse is my first cousin, a few times removed. So hello cousin.
@midegahogichidaa
9 күн бұрын
Lets go our brother Wayne May!
@derekpine5686
8 күн бұрын
I've enjoyed your videos.
@derekpine5686
8 күн бұрын
I served my mission in the Canada Winnipeg mission. I got to serve with the Cree in Saskatoon Saskatchewan and the Ojibawe in northwest Ontario. I loved them.
@charlestolley2294
8 күн бұрын
Came here from the Ward Radio stream about the Olmecs being Jaredites, and their argument doesn't even come close. They dismiss the Heartland theories because they say they don't have any trained archaeologists, but how can they look at this collection and just say, "no, those are all forgeries." You have to be willingly blind to not find this stuff interesting.
@StarKiller1423
8 күн бұрын
Never listen to the scholars
@LatterDayChad
8 күн бұрын
🔥🔥
@Brandon-Is-Not-Fooled
8 күн бұрын
Scholars aren't so scholarly. It's ironic or antiphrasis. 😂 This is what you get from brainwashed public educational system set up by the antichrist globalists way back around turn of the 20th century.
@TureRealD
8 күн бұрын
Nemenhah Records. These are Hagoth people.
@thegreatitudecoach
8 күн бұрын
Nope. The Olmec people were NOT the Jaredites. But the Adena seem to be a closer fit.
@berasautu3478
8 күн бұрын
Thank you so much Zion Media and Wayne May. Love this presentation. Truth will prevail.
@robsin2810
4 күн бұрын
Wayne should work for the Church historical Society. Watch you for years, mate🇦🇺🙏👍
@aarontracy1452
8 күн бұрын
I ran into Wayne May on my mission in Columbus, Ohio. We were at the Newark mounds and we ran into him and a group he was guiding. Such a wonderful experience, what a great man.
@LatterDayChad
7 күн бұрын
Legendary I ran into him at the Columbus temple
@jlylestevens
8 күн бұрын
Is there any way Midega or other ojibwe could set up a foundation to retrieve these artifacts? I would definitely donate to help preserve, and present them to the world.
@ZionMedia_
8 күн бұрын
That’s a great idea. I wonder what we’d need besides a legal fund and acquisition fund.
@Brandon-Is-Not-Fooled
8 күн бұрын
I second this idea! Sadly, I'd trust them over BYU given what we know about their perspective about such evidence & relics. So ironic and anti-scholarly and narrow-minded for them to turn a blind eye towards all this. 🤦♂️
@weaverlance
8 күн бұрын
@@Brandon-Is-Not-Fooled indeed.
@Dognamedbingo
9 күн бұрын
This is amazing but why do people hide the truth and not show it? It bugs me to my core I want to know truth.
@KSWA1000
8 күн бұрын
Our guess is that some of the tours that may have something to do with it. Do they still do tours around South America claiming that’s where Book of Mormon happened? Maybe that’s the reason if 🤷🏽♀️
@donnaramos-2bgr8srv
8 күн бұрын
@@KSWA1000 Mostly tours to Central America, as I understand. But yes, that and the books they write give them a monetary influence to cling to a Central American setting.
@tombenjamin3685
7 күн бұрын
They don’t show these artifacts because they aren’t real, forgeries. Native Americans weren’t living in a studio teepee drawing on stone tablets, depictions of Old Testament stories.
@nancywood3478
7 күн бұрын
Satan does not want the physical evidence to be presented to the world!
@tombenjamin3685
7 күн бұрын
Right, because then his ruse of being Moroni and fooling JS Jr. would be over. And all those souls that would be lost will be saved
@h.r.1523
9 күн бұрын
Wayne May... wooow!! Bugs what the church has done w/ these Michigan records. They couldn't keep them because they dated BEFORE the church was established??? Uhh guess they better get rid of their Egyptian artifacts and uh.. lets see the BOM plates. (Sarcasm) 😅 Glad Zion is breaking the conference talks into individual vids. Thanks guys. 🧡
@LatterDayChad
8 күн бұрын
The biggest lds problem is caving to the secularists of the world
@bartonbagnes4605
8 күн бұрын
The Book Of Mormon is the best evidence for The Book Of Mormon. The complexity written in one take, with no contradictions in geography or timelines, no mixing up names, even with some being almost identical. All written using Paleo Hebrew grammar, by someone fluent in Egyptian and Paleo Hebrew, or they could not have done wordplay on the meaning of character names in those languages. That the more Archeological and Historical research is done in the Middle East and Mesoamerica, the more it lines up with The Book Of Mormon narrative is just a bonus.
@donnavaughn9409
8 күн бұрын
I agree it's the best evidence.
@LeeHancock-x1m
8 күн бұрын
The best evidence is the golden plates. They don’t exist….
@bartonbagnes4605
8 күн бұрын
@@LeeHancock-x1m They do exist, it's called The Book Of Mormon. Because you cannot date metal, if they showed metal plates with writings that can't be read by ancient linguistics specialists, they would just call them a modern fake. But that both translations by Joseph Smith Jr. are written using Paleo Hebrew grammar, and had to have been written by someone fluent in ancient Egyptian and Paleo Hebrew, because The Book Of Mormon includes wordplay on the ancient meaning of Egyptian and Hebrew names, since NOBODY were fluent in ancient Egyptian or Paleo Hebrew, especially not Joseph Smith Jr., it's far Greater evidence than any metal plates would be.
@miminowak7446
8 күн бұрын
Thank you....... I love this......... truth will prevail
@powdrman30
9 күн бұрын
To Mr. Mae and those associated with this incredible presentation, How does one offer support to anyone within the Native American Communities who may desire to see these important artifacts returned intact? As someone who has a Ponca ancestor, and as a member of the Latter Day Saint faith I recognize the vital importance of such things to the people for whom they are considered sacred.
@cdmbcgm
8 күн бұрын
Like the Battcreek stone, they are considered priceless frauds. The grandson of Milton R Hunter offered to buy them and they refused. Milton R Hunter Grandson did talk with the museum in Michigan and they said they would be open to having people look at them.
@livingmombirth4005
9 күн бұрын
Thanks Guys! So good to hear the history about these items.
@trevorwilkerson8769
8 күн бұрын
These artifacts are very convincing, especially with Wayne presenting it.
@sherigraham3873
9 күн бұрын
The Mystic Symbol is the most incredible book by Henriette Mertz about the Michigan artifacts. Many showing biblical scenes. So glad there is some interest in them. Thankyou for this!!
@LatterDayChad
8 күн бұрын
I need to read it, Wayne packed up his stuff before I was able to get a copy
@sherigraham3873
8 күн бұрын
@@LatterDayChad I got it through Amazon. Henriette was not LDS. It's full of pictures of the relics.
@donnaramos-2bgr8srv
8 күн бұрын
@@LatterDayChad Get the copy Wayne sells. It includes the more recent Deal translations and discoveries in the back part.
@LatterDayChad
8 күн бұрын
@@donnaramos-2bgr8srv I will for sure
@GarySaint-xm6tr
3 күн бұрын
There are a lot of members who champion the heartland model, but Wayne May is the godfather of them all
@charlesgarrett2717
4 күн бұрын
I've been to Yucatan and round about in those lands and never got the same spiritual feelings as I do here in the heartland. In those lands is another story the Lord will reveal in his due time.
@rconger24
8 күн бұрын
The testimony of each member diligently sought those are the goals of Our Brethren.
@melila54
5 күн бұрын
Keep up the good work Wayne, I'm over byu pushing the meso theory ridiculous 😢
@KLJ284
Күн бұрын
Wayne May for President!
@kencard6657
9 күн бұрын
Wayne May and the work of the mound people sure points the area of the BOM geography and so does the first hand accounts from the Prophet Joseph Smith! I do not believe Nephi [of 600BC] went to Central or South America to build a temple. Christ did go down there after his crucifixion to pull in the flock [other sheep] to the true Shepherd {Christ}.
@ComeFollowMeLatterDayMedia
7 күн бұрын
We have filmed in over 20 states with Wayne May, and many others, seeing and documenting the evidences ourselves of Latter Day Prophecy being fulfilled only in a Heartland of America, because Isaiah and all the ancients prophesied so. There is NO OTHER nation fulfilling an End-Time scenario, besides the United States (as L. Tom Perry said as well as many other modern-day prophets), and Israel. I have been to Monte Alban, which is a cool site, but it most likely is NOT where Lehi/Nephi and the main Book of Mormon peoples lived from 600 BC to 425 AD. There are too many other reasons why no other country fulfills all the prophecies as does America with our Constitution.
@JamesLStoddard
9 күн бұрын
the plains / ruins at Monte Alban are INCREDIBLE ! i was there a year ago and as we neared the summit, the Spirit was sooooooooo powerful, one could almost feel in Avient Americans around us!
@monalisa2662
8 күн бұрын
Where is this at and can it be reached by car or on foot only?
@nancylowe2692
8 күн бұрын
They need to claim these relics before something happens to them. Our native brothers & sisters.
@miminowak7446
8 күн бұрын
I have had so many goosebump moments listening to you. Awesome and well done this gives me hope
@joyce7892
8 күн бұрын
I love this. Amazing and wonderful.
@CNStanza1
9 күн бұрын
thanks for uploading this
@markvincentnadon4908
6 күн бұрын
Of course, I agree with would have done the same thing that church did mean satisfied. We have something legitimate. Put it back on them so they can share in the conversation. If they sure, but they sure cannot say. We're hiding anything from them michigander for life. I'm glad they're back here. I tried to examine them when they were at the Kelsey museum in Ann arborand again the museum in Lansing. And they kept them dark which is a greater testimony to me.Then if they tried to argue yours in christ Elder Nadon : )
@cdmbcgm
8 күн бұрын
I was wondering why the 13 month calendar. Why listening to a lecture on the ancient India (country) calendars, I found the answer. The Hebrew festival dates are based on a lunar cycle, which is 12 months. To complete a full solar year they added another month. The 13 month calendar is a lunar/solar calendar.
@karieberry1070
8 күн бұрын
Thank you ! I was wondering too -- makes sense. The moon is feminine energy
@weaverlance
8 күн бұрын
Yes... they use the metonic cycle to add a 'leap month' 3 times each 7 years or sabatical year period. roughly once each 2.5 years. That extra adar or adar II, 'fills up' the fullness of time to realign the calendar to the seasons.
@MichaelPagan-c9n
7 күн бұрын
That mystic symbol looks very similar to cuneiform. If translated to Old Persian cuneiform, it would mean: 𐎂𐎉𐎌 = "King of Deeds;" if Sumerian cuneiform, it would mean: 𒄑𒅆𒋫 = "Long Wisdom Through." Interesting.
@laurauraura
7 күн бұрын
Both wonderful and upsetting. BOM really is a true and wonderful book.
@brendamartin3444
2 күн бұрын
We have a “church” museum, now we need a Nephite/Lamanite museum!! Or even a Hopewell museum…
@aaronwood8012
8 күн бұрын
Fascinating… why is this not more well known ?
@natalieerickson6152
6 күн бұрын
I love Wayne’s work! Thank you for this. I did have to laugh at the ad at the end asking for help to get to Monte Alban, though. Please correct me if I’m wrong, but advertising that place as a Nephite Temple, especially after a Wayne May presentation, seems very out of place. Wayne is very clear in his research that Nephite temples are in the heartland. He also speaks much on the lack of use of stairs in Hebrew alters.
@ZionMedia_
6 күн бұрын
We are going with Lance who has presented his Continental Model of the Book of Mormon which connect both places quite well. Check them out.
@natalieerickson6152
5 күн бұрын
@@ZionMedia_thank you for your quick reply. I will certainly do that. I love your channel.
@midegahogichidaa
9 күн бұрын
First
@h.r.1523
9 күн бұрын
Hey Midegah! Are you going to reclaim some of those Michigan records? I wasn't clear if it had to be a specific tribe. BTW, I loved your presentation at the conference. The spirit was strong!!! 🧡
@midegahogichidaa
9 күн бұрын
@@h.r.1523yes we are going for them. We discuss this after conference in Octobers 12 day fast ceremony
@LatterDayChad
9 күн бұрын
@@midegahogichidaalegendary, the world is gonna have to contend with the seed of Jacob very soon
@h.r.1523
9 күн бұрын
@@midegahogichidaa That will be so great. Now I remember you mentioning something about a 12 day fast. I haven't had a chance to rewatch your presentation. October is the best month. I would imagine the harvest and the "hunt" would factor into this time period, along with ancestral strength. But as for your traditions, I do not not presume to know. Are there other symbolic things associated with October for your tribe? 🍁🍂😊
@midegahogichidaa
9 күн бұрын
@@h.r.1523 new year. New moon is new year.
@nogaffin
3 күн бұрын
Academia does not always do us good. This is proof. The Smithsonian has controlled the narrative of so much history as well.
@scubed8671
8 күн бұрын
A system of weights, a written language and use of cement in construction is what to look for. -Pure Lehite.
@JudyCordero-p8o
3 күн бұрын
Why would the church do that, or whoever is responsible that works for the church do that?
@tonyg6211
2 күн бұрын
It’s sad that the leaders in the church seem to listen scholars over common people and are lead astray. Just like the way they handled the pandemic and let everyone be given that poison. They would rather not have controversy.
@g7u930
Күн бұрын
Some of those slates don't look like they've been buried for a long time. Many of those artifacts look recently made. They could be fakes. Though Wayne May has many real and great artifacts, these slate ones might not be real. And that's ok because he has a lot of other real cool true artifacts. I love his work!
@libertywarriornation6438
3 күн бұрын
If these were all real the church would have never got rid of them.
@Kaydubbbb
8 күн бұрын
Here is a question for everyone. In Mormon 1:6 Mormon junior is carried by his dad at 11 years old from the north country down to Zarahemla. What was the method of carrying 11 year olds at the time? It seems like an 11 year old should be carrying himself unless the mode of travel was by boat. Why couldn’t Mormon have been carried by boat from the “heartland” down to Meso American Zarahemla?
@rob_creer19
4 күн бұрын
Interesting observation, "those who had been carried away captive into the wilderness" (Alma 16:4) is another example, among several, of the word carried. I don't picture him holding his son in our modern usage of the word. The 1828 Noah Webster dictionary reads for carried, "To bear, convey, or transport"
@MrNirom1
4 күн бұрын
Zarahemla was not in Mesoamerica. You have to go further south. Mesoamerica is where the people who boarded Hagoth's ships sailed north to.
@Jeeprassic
7 күн бұрын
I don't understand how some quote "scholars" can outright deny this evidence. It is right in front of their face and they will not consider it. Elder Milton R Hunter must be turning over in his grave. It's disconcerting, don't you think?
@Aristotle33
7 күн бұрын
The key difference lies in the approach. Wayne May focuses on drawing associations between the similarities of the Hopewell and the Book of Mormon, while other scholars prioritize seeking disconfirming evidence in addition to that.
@stevenupham839
4 күн бұрын
Our best evidence is confirmation by the Holy Spirit
@ProdigalSonMatt
8 күн бұрын
Fascinating stuff!
@LyndaEdwards-h8b
5 күн бұрын
A lot of duplication in this video, very frustrating.
@jamesmaclean5586
4 күн бұрын
What is the claim that Jesus inspired His church leaders to do?
@charlesgarrett2717
4 күн бұрын
Seems to me we have an abundance of "learned men" in the church. Joseph Smith said that the Lamanites and Nephites were here in this land round about.
@davidcrockett8319
4 күн бұрын
Uhh Redwood road… 4 blocks from temple square?? Not quite…
@reneequinn4267
8 күн бұрын
Loved the video, Just wondering Why would you advertise to go to Mexico right after you show a heartland video! 😮 I’m a heartlander! ❤
@weaverlance
8 күн бұрын
It happened in BOTH the heartland and Mesoamerica. Chief Midegah even agrees. The Mintinah archives make it clear. All these relics are part of the Mulekites in the land northward. We will get more of their story when we are ready. There's only ONE cumorah.
@ZionMedia_
7 күн бұрын
We’re going everywhere
@stevenhenderson9005
7 күн бұрын
In 1822, Seneca Chief Red Jacket visited Palmyra, sharing insights into the culture, religious beliefs, and legends of his people. His father, Chief Handsome Lake, had experienced a visitation that bears an intriguing parallel to the story of the Three Nephites in the Book of Mormon. They also spoke of the appearance of the Son of the Great Spirit. This period aligns with Lucy Smith’s account of Joseph Smith telling captivating stories about Native Americans, as if he had lived among them. The Book of Mormon reflects elements of the Iroquois Confederacy, such as the burial of weapons to establish peace. Joseph’s creative mind may have woven these concepts into the Iroquois framework as he constructed Christian stories, believing they came to him by the gift and power of God-which could be seen as the imagination of mankind at work. As fascinating as the historical aspects of the text may be, they could be a distraction from the book’s main purpose: to testify of Jesus Christ. Why doesn’t the Church accept these interpretations presented by other scholars like Way? Because the Church knows where the Book of Mormon actually came from. They understand it’s not a historical record but contains history within its pages-a blend of Iroquois Confederacy frameworks, ancient legends, and 19th-century Protestant theology, woven together. The Book of Mormon could be seen as a work of historical fiction, with fictional characters inspired by the creative mind of Joseph Smith. He may have brought this text from his imagination into the physical realm-not only through his vision of gold plates but possibly by manufacturing physical plates, which he kept hidden from view. These plates could have served as a symbolic representation of what he saw in his mind’s eye. Just as Dumbo needed to believe in a magical feather to fly, members may feel they need to believe in the Book of Mormon as a historical record. However, just as Dumbo realized he could fly without the feather, members can still find belief and faith without the book being historically factual. The true power of the Book of Mormon lies in the meaning of its teachings and the way its principles bring people closer to God when applied in their lives. This is what ultimately makes the book "true." Critics can never attack a meaningful text, but they can always attack claims of a historical text.
@ZionMedia_
7 күн бұрын
Interesting
@LatterDayChad
7 күн бұрын
It is historical that’s why the native Americans have the same stories because it actually happened
@lauranorris1713
8 күн бұрын
WOW !!!!!!!
@hjohnson966
8 күн бұрын
The church isn't in the buisness of physical evidence, it's probably for the best because it is controversial, but it's sad.
@Brandon-Is-Not-Fooled
8 күн бұрын
"Do the right thing and let the consequences follow", as we sing in primary or is that just a meaningless slogan? I guess so. 😢 Amazing how fear and public opinion can keep the truth away and squash the faith/courage of our church leaders. So what if it's controversial. Oh that's gonna hurt our missionary efforts? Oh well, if people don't have the intellectual desire to seek the truth without bias, then maybe they aren't ready. Let them be or reject it. Our goal is preaching the truth, all of it. It's disappointing to say the least.
@adamcollier3065
8 күн бұрын
I would think that at least 1 person since the time of Joseph would have had a revelation as to where the BofM actually took place.
@weaverlance
8 күн бұрын
right? ;) Its almost time.
@lorihaun9956
9 күн бұрын
Hello! ❤
@derekpine5686
8 күн бұрын
The temple at Monte Alban looks luke the temple at the end of Nacho Libre.
@barbaraoyler557
7 күн бұрын
Send pictures to Margaret Barker
@MrNirom1
4 күн бұрын
There is no doubt that there are remanents of the Nephites and Lamanites in the United States. But that does not make the US the Book of Mormon Lands where the Book of Mormon took place. There is more to see in Peru and Ecuador of the Book of Mormon Lands than in America.
@LatterDayChad
4 күн бұрын
There is were massive structures made of wooden all across the eastern United States. The Book of Mormon doesn’t speak about massive stone fortresses it speaks of massive earthen structures and temples made of wood
@weaverlance
4 күн бұрын
Joseph Smith said otherwise. He mentions only a landing in South America. After which they came north to Mesoamerican and the Eastern US. read the quotes and believe Joseph. The Law of One tells about the heavenly group which worked with (and still works with) the Incas.
@LatterDayChad
4 күн бұрын
the Book of Mormon clearly describes building up earthen mounds with wooden timber structures. Even king Noah’s temple was described as being made of the finest of wood. Thats not to say they weren’t in meso America at all. Chief Midegah say their records tells that they landed in meso America and the land of Mulek where Mosiah flees to was North America. But I’d bet that most of anything Nephite related in meso America was destroyed, which is why we don’t see much if any Israelite connections in their culture. And again by the Midegah model the Aztecs are a distinct group who migrated and mixed in with the Lehites in Meso America. Aparently Jaredites were in South America though and filled both North and South America.
@ahh-2-ahh
9 күн бұрын
8:40 Does anyone know where i can get a clear picture or image of this 13 month calander? 9:33 also this image...or any of the images in this video
@cdmbcgm
8 күн бұрын
Those calendars are on many Michigan relics. I will try to post a link. If it does not work, Google the Michigan relics.
@LatterDayChad
8 күн бұрын
Super cool
@abbe1776
7 күн бұрын
The Emerald Tablets. Written by Thoth of Egypt after he came to new world.
@ZionMedia_
7 күн бұрын
I’ve read it. Very interesting stuff. Tons of truth
@LeeHancock-x1m
8 күн бұрын
Has anyone seen the stone box where the golden plates were “ supposedly” found? No, because it simply doesn’t exist. Had anyone seen the “magically disappearing” golden plates? No because they simply don’t exist.
@CalebDelatorre-uh3rj
5 күн бұрын
Where does this line up, Lehi was a, "Jew." We know he was persecuted by the Jews. That means Nephi was a ,Jew.
@rob_creer19
4 күн бұрын
Likely more accurate that he would call himself a Hebrew. He called those who persecuted him the Jews, "19 And it came to pass that the Jews did mock him because of the things which he testified of them" 1 Nephi 1:19. Let me know if I'm mistaken, I'll look for other places that might say he was Jewish but I'm not coming up with any. He came from the northern kingdom like other refugees I believe.
@CalebDelatorre-uh3rj
4 күн бұрын
@rob_creer19 Nephi said, I have charity for the jew, from whence I came."...has his people were not taught in the manner of the jews." The plates were the Jewish records and wisdom and history and Jewish prophets teachings. And they believed in 1 God. And at the time the only people that believed in 1 God was the jews. Jesus's God was the Jewish God. Lehi believed in 1 God. The Jewish God.
@thegreatitudecoach
8 күн бұрын
What is the sound he didn’t want to say out Loud? I know they call God Hashem or Adonai. So as to no “Use the name of God in vain”.
@Cuinn837
7 күн бұрын
YHWH is the sacred name that can't be spoken as per Jewish tradition. Nobody knows how it's supposed to be pronounced, as there are no vowels or vowel points given to us.
@thegreatitudecoach
7 күн бұрын
@@Cuinn837 He clearly said YaHudVa or The Creator... There is an additional sound. Unless I'm missing something.
@offroadhub.official
Күн бұрын
History according to your crazy uncle. 😂
@AlternativeInvesting
5 күн бұрын
Weren't all these plates discovered by one guy wherever he traveled? Seems like a clear forgery.
@ZionMedia_
5 күн бұрын
No there’s thousands that have been gathered over Michigan.
@monalisa2662
8 күн бұрын
Who is Trevor and how old is he??? Get women??? Where is Monte El? Also, how aout your post a picture of Trevor first!
@IBNED
7 күн бұрын
If I could go back to those days of the past I would show you a love that would last...I remember those wonderful dances in El Monte...
@LatterDayChad
9 күн бұрын
Fourth
@johnnyscoolstuff8427
8 күн бұрын
What evidence?
@vidio-videodictionaryonlin5973
7 күн бұрын
People are actually falling for this??
@BobSmith-lb9nc
8 күн бұрын
Wayne May hasn't got a clue about archeology or history.
@thelacycottage5826
7 күн бұрын
And you do?
@BobSmith-lb9nc
7 күн бұрын
@@thelacycottage5826 Yep
@Aristotle33
9 күн бұрын
Wayne May’s logic does not work. A few statements from the Book of Mormon disconfirm the Hopewell as associated with the text of the Book of Mormon. The Hopewell is not the last Jedi.
@LatterDayChad
8 күн бұрын
You’re right no where does the Book of Mormon describe the Nephites building up massive earthen structures that cities are built upon or massive earthen burial mounds….oh wait it mentions that like a lot. I literally had an anti Mormon point that out to me and say Joseph smith was clearly intending the Book of Mormon to be about the mound builders because of those things in the Book of Mormon, Exodus also forbids building stone alters to sacrifice on which is why the hopewell have stone buildings but earthen and wooden worship places because they were following the law of Moses.
@Aristotle33
8 күн бұрын
@@LatterDayChad If my statement is accurate, then your reasoning is flawed. Wayne May often demonstrates a strong tendency toward association and confirmation bias. In my statement, I highlighted that several passages from the Book of Mormon-the primary source text-can effectively disconfirm the identification of the Hopewell as the Nephites.
@russelldesertvikinganderso3386
8 күн бұрын
Nonsense...if we agreed with you we'd ALL be Wrong.
@LatterDayChad
8 күн бұрын
@@Aristotle33no the Book of Mormon literally speaks of building up mounds of earth and there’s only one place on this continent we see that. Here’s one example but far from the only one ========================= Alma 49:4 4 But behold, how great was their disappointment; for behold, the Nephites had dug up a ridge of earth round about them, which was so high that the Lamanites could not cast their stones and their arrows at them that they might take effect, neither could they come upon them save it was by their place of entrance. ========================= Like I said this isn’t the only verse they also mention putting timbers on top of the mounds of earth and in the 1900s it was discovered that most of the non burial Hopewell mounds had massive buildings made of Wooden timbers on top of them and the military fortifications had wooden walls with towers along the ridges. They had cement as well and the Smithsonian themselves have found IRON chest plates and axes in mounds.
@Brandon-Is-Not-Fooled
8 күн бұрын
Well someone doesn't know their BoM history as it relates to archeology. 🤣
@sunrisetide
8 күн бұрын
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