I love how people are freaking out that melon's talking about this too much like this isn't a side channel of a side channel and like Fantano giving anti-right takes hasn't been happening for a decade now
@maka8551
3 жыл бұрын
what did he say that was anti-right
@theelectricant98
3 жыл бұрын
@@maka8551many things
@shiftin1191
3 жыл бұрын
@@maka8551 just look at his Twitter lol
@tylerinmotion4075
3 жыл бұрын
melon has been based from the beginning
@maka8551
3 жыл бұрын
@@theelectricant98 didnt ask when
@lazyguyhasnomouth6034
3 жыл бұрын
The people that start cheering when he says he "declined to talk to the trans employees" before saying he didn't, shows those kinda people true colors.
@MeSureBack
3 жыл бұрын
Dave could've easily shut that down too if he intended at all on clarifying that he wasn't against trans folk. This feels a lot like a Trump rally
@Shmuel420
3 жыл бұрын
The fuck are you guys even talking about
@PeterGriffin-rp9iq
3 жыл бұрын
@@Shmuel420 In the beginning, Dave says supposedly he declined to talk with trans employees, and people start to cheer. He then clarified that he didn’t actually decline. So Dave is not trying to say he won’t talk to trans people, but the people in the crowd thought he was, and they cheered. People in the crowd cheered because they thought he meant he wouldn’t talk to trans people, which is really telling of the attitudes of some of the people in the audience
@Shmuel420
3 жыл бұрын
Y'all are dumb af. Hes a comedian. Jokes are jokes. You cannot say that he's not allowed to joke about something. And he's not even hurting anyone. He's not provoking violence. You clearly don't listen to what he says. And you're clearly too sensitive to handle the real world. A joke is a joke is a joke. It can offend you, but that doesn't mean it's unacceptable. Everyone else can laugh at themselves but trans people for some reason. Why are they off-limits? Huh? Explain that to me.
@lazyguyhasnomouth6034
3 жыл бұрын
@@PeterGriffin-rp9iq dude, that was clear bait. Better just to ignore him for people who want to actually have discourse.
@bluepearl_22
3 жыл бұрын
People keep calling everyone snowflakes but get butthurt when you simply say that it wasn't his best material lol
@maverick3732
3 жыл бұрын
Hypocrites at their finest
@maka8551
3 жыл бұрын
soft
@maka8551
3 жыл бұрын
@@maverick3732 soft
@maverick3732
3 жыл бұрын
@@maka8551 LOL at you commenting ‘soft’ and replying to all the comments you disagree with. That’s pretty soft.
@maka8551
3 жыл бұрын
@@maverick3732 Soft
@themusicaljunkie37
2 жыл бұрын
It's quite ironic that this obsession with cancel culture is erasing any form of criticism... we can't even criticize anyone without someone getting on a soapbox and cry about censorship... how can we evolve comedy when you can't even criticize a lazy joke? So we all need to force a laugh just cuz old comedians are grumpy for feeling irrelevant?
@queenhenryviii
2 жыл бұрын
Bingo. And the fact that the prominent people complaining about “cancel culture” just so happens to receive more free publicity than they can handle.
@TheJerbol
2 жыл бұрын
I'm so tired of comics acting like they're just the bastions of our rights, like comedy is this gift from God that cannot be questioned ever
@diegomo1413
2 жыл бұрын
“I am being silenced” - somebody you can hear
@yasminegomez5862
2 жыл бұрын
That's hilarious
@3jay22
2 жыл бұрын
but people who can't be heard are nobodies
@brunosm.l2267
2 жыл бұрын
that applies also when lgbt community claims they are silenced?
@valeoncat13
2 жыл бұрын
@@brunosm.l2267 I don't think that's really comparable tbh. Chappelle is one person and the LGBTQ *community* is a group comprised of very different people, who's only relation is a thing outside of their control. So at-least for the latter, it's impossible for there to be one defining opinion to criticize. In general "being silenced" is highly relative to specific situations, cause there are plenty of people being silenced for real. It's just generally not high-profile celebrities with access to media outlets.
@brunosm.l2267
2 жыл бұрын
@@valeoncat13 The joke, which includes also an arguement, says that you can't say you are being silenced when we all canlisten to you. Beside that the thing lgbtq people have in common is something they can't control, which I agree, there's also a common arguement as a comunity that SHOULD BE ABLE TO BE CRITICIZED, and even more if it has factual consecuences (the award of woman of the year mentioned in the stand up). Not saying that I agree or not with that award, just saying that it should be criticizable, just like you can critizice Chapelle. with that being said, I'm not saying there are't people that are being silenced, mostly in terms of discriminated in this case. My point is that you can be silenced even if we all can listen to you. Because that critique it is being made to Chapelle is having real, factual consecuences, because this critique has influence over corporation which make decisions based on this community opinions.
@PixelAspen
3 жыл бұрын
Love how people get to enjoy free speech unless they use that free speech to criticize a comedian, jokes cant be subject of criticism for some absurd reason
@jodajoda2863
3 жыл бұрын
As everyone knows, the First Amendment says, "You can say whatever you want unless you are being mean to a comedian. Being mean to a comedian is basically 1984." Come on, respect the founding fathers asshole.
@nejsnek1410
3 жыл бұрын
Jokes can be subject to criticism but separating entertainment from reality is something everyone should learn to do. Not defending Dave here, just speaking in general terms.
@SomeSong2
3 жыл бұрын
In today's parasocial climate where everyone thinks they know everyone, that's ancient history. Those times are gone.
@Moneyman-33
3 жыл бұрын
All jokes have always been subject to criticism. But now it’s “you’re a bad person cause you told that joke” and that’s just insane. Most people don’t feel that way. And we’re tired of being lectured to by people who do. They are overgrown children and nobody should care what they think or feel.
@WhoseRob
3 жыл бұрын
Just from my perspective. I think it has less to do with a “boo hoo, don’t criticize me.” And is more of an astonishment that it’s not just criticism anymore. It’s an ACTIVE attempt to take away someone’s right to say something “controversial” in the first place. I think Dave is coming from a place where he wants to be able to start a “conversation”, which leaves the door open for criticism; but that doesn’t mean advocating for stopping the conversation before it even has room to breathe. But again…all from my perspective. Obviously have ZERO insight to his train of thought.
@TheUglyAnswers
2 жыл бұрын
The irony of saying "I'm being silenced, my voice must be heard" into a MICROPHONE, to his AUDIENCE, can only come from the goat 🐐
@brandstongould8067
3 жыл бұрын
“Don’t exclude my voice” (he said, on one of the most popular specials on one of the most popular streaming services in the world)
@maka8551
3 жыл бұрын
soft
@calebreader5818
3 жыл бұрын
@@maka8551 Jesus mate, someone’s butthurt. I’m seeing you take cheap easy shots in the replies of half the comments on here lmao
@maka8551
3 жыл бұрын
@@calebreader5818 soft
@tomwilko7841
3 жыл бұрын
I think he was making a wider point, his inclusion of dababy and his own skin tone suggests he was speaking on behalf of a community, not personally
@calebreader5818
3 жыл бұрын
@@maka8551 LMAOOO proved me wrong
@themandownstairs4765
3 жыл бұрын
I can't help but notice an equal-but-opposite synergy between comedians doubling down on trans jokes when people call them out, and companies putting out "woke" commercials knowing it will piss off a small community and Twitter will dunk on them for three days, giving them free advertising
@theelectricant98
3 жыл бұрын
Yep, no easier way to get attention and make money than taking a stance in the culture war and milking it
@themandownstairs4765
3 жыл бұрын
@@theelectricant98 "the culture war" lmao as far as I am aware that concept is a fabrication stemming from the 1930s German concept of the "cultural Marxist". Besides, labeling any culture as split into no more than two groups is just missing the basics of public discourse entirely? lmao Edit: I have been made aware I have been misled about the term culture war, thanks
@jodajoda2863
3 жыл бұрын
@@themandownstairs4765 I also think downplaying things as just culture war shit is very disrespectful. People said the same kind of stuff about the civil rights movement and it's unfair and untrue. It's only culture war bullshit when you aren't the one who's humanity is being debated in the Supreme Court.
@theelectricant98
3 жыл бұрын
@@themandownstairs4765 btw culture war was repopularized in sociology in the 90s to describe what ghoulish conservatives like bill O'Reilly pushed. It was outrage marketing from the start. You're mixing up concepts although you are correct that the right in America recycles many of those same ideas
@lukebarrile3840
3 жыл бұрын
@@themandownstairs4765 "culture war" in this context is referring to a different concept
@seandraws1999
3 жыл бұрын
Chappelle wants to have his cake and eat it too. To be paid tens of millions of dollars and be on the front page of Netflix while also pretending he's being marginalized and censored.
@chipskyshart87
3 жыл бұрын
i didn’t get that feeling at all. i felt that he has a problem with a certain group of people trying to ‘cancel’ him, which will very clearly never happen, rather than actually listening to what he is saying.
@Mahk99
3 жыл бұрын
Joe rogan wrote the textbook on this and now theyre besties
@IsaacIsDead1
3 жыл бұрын
@@Mahk99 they’ve been friends
@ryuman757
3 жыл бұрын
He's pretending he's being marginalized & censored? Doesn't sound that way when he's talking his LGBTQ+ fans that enjoyed the special(s), while pointing out the clear masses of people literally actively trying to remove Dave Chappelle from our mouths & thoughts. Sounds like the same shit as pro-lifers trying to shut down Planned Parenthood simply for the fraction of their services dedicated to abortions, instead of worrying about all the other positive/necessary shit they do for others. Dave made off-handed jokes about the LGBTQ+ community in his first Netflix special (if I remember correctly, it didn't make-up all his material yet), and people didn't let him hear the end of it. Then he brought it up again in another special (probably because it felt appropriate to side-chain the specials together into a chronology of thought, especially when you know loads of people will jump on it), because that's literally what he became to a large group of people from that 1 single special alone. Then we get a "farewell to the jokes y'all take too seriously" special, and now people are complaining that he only ever talks about this group and nothing else (since everyone's ignoring the other stand-up and stuff he's been doing between the specials). Really wild to see when people could just be laughing, and focusing their actual negative energy on the real hate/greed in the world. This all probably would've been better with Dave if this was all on Hulu, since Netflix fucked themselves royally after Cuties and still has most people on their shitlist, lol.
@sakshamtyagi9652
3 жыл бұрын
He isn't being censored thanks to Netflix not bending down to the demands of it's employees. The trans community desperately wants it to be censored.
@arashbolhasani7512
3 жыл бұрын
You would've supported Dave Chappelle if he was black
@gilolaes4725
3 жыл бұрын
I'm pretty sure this controversy would have died down faster if more people actually liked the set.
@SomeSong2
3 жыл бұрын
The most controversial thing about it to me was that it felt almost too self aware and not the usual burst of energy his standups are.
@jamesembrey3100
3 жыл бұрын
That’s not how “the vocal minority” works dude. Ever heard the phrase “The empty can rattles the loudest”? It doesn’t take many obnoxious people to start shit. Everyone that likes Dave is just chillin at home, probably NOT tweeting about him. Because “twitter isn’t a real place”.
@iMusikkForeva
3 жыл бұрын
@JAY CHROM3 I found it funny, my friends found it funny. The ones who enjoyed it aren't out there battling anything tbh...guy has a point.
@ryuman757
3 жыл бұрын
@JAY CHROM3 Sadly Dave just talks about the stuff that's on his mind, including the stuff that people couldn't let down from his past jokes/specials. He had plenty of other shows/stand-up in between these specials, where he does his regular comedy and what not. But a lot of people seemed to only focus on his Netflix specials material; as if that's all he is anymore, lol. A lot of what he talks about is pretty usual/same topics, just spun different ways and with great/different jokes. This set seemed more like a "lemme talk to y'all about about this shit for the last time so y'all can understand better, and then I'll stfu", vs "here's more new jokes for y'all to laugh, after my friend killed herself because she was viciously bullied for defending my past/recent comedy and all."
@maka8551
3 жыл бұрын
soft
@mothman4672
2 жыл бұрын
“Corporate interests want to silence me” is the way Dave justifies his trans jokes as punching up
@gubberfuck
2 жыл бұрын
And netflix gave it the green light and defended him....
@WhaleManMan
3 жыл бұрын
"I am being oppressed!" said the man being actively supported by the CEO of Netflix.
@Moneyman-33
3 жыл бұрын
All y’all saying stuff like this have no idea what you’re talking about lol. He made a movie about George Floyd and nobody in Hollywood wants anything to do with it SPECIFICALLY because of his “controversy” which is entirely astroturfed bullshit. Listening and taking seriously the astroturfed bullshit outrage needs to stop, I don’t understand how people can’t see how destructive it is to society to actually live like this.
@jamesembrey3100
3 жыл бұрын
Yeah cuz having one person’s support COMPLETELY negates the many negative affects of vitriolic hate and ill will from THOUSANDS.
@WhaleManMan
3 жыл бұрын
@@Moneyman-33 Yeah hes not racist hes transphobic
@bonz7720
3 жыл бұрын
@@WhaleManMan and what statements or behavior has he exhibited for you to come to the conclusion that he's transphobic? What hatred has has he exhibited towards the trans community with his actions or words? Y'all just throw terms around without actually knowing the meaning.
@larrypotter2243
3 жыл бұрын
@@jamesembrey3100 Not stating my opinion here but that one man has control of a media empire and has vast resources compared to Joe Schmoe on Twitter.
@Jack-pp2ng
3 жыл бұрын
I don't know If I'm sometimes missing the joke but it seems like the crowd is laughing when they shouldn't be
@eatmyass8997
3 жыл бұрын
You don't get to decide when people are allowed to laugh at shit.
@swimsvg1855
3 жыл бұрын
@@eatmyass8997 he didn't even tell jokes at times and they still started laughing lmao, imma call out how weird that shit is lol
@eatmyass8997
3 жыл бұрын
@@swimsvg1855 I don't recall any moment where people were laughing at something that wasn't supposed to be humorous so idk what you are talking about.
@eatmyass8997
3 жыл бұрын
@Messaoudi Youssef are you talking about the bit at 3:03? That is very obviously cheering and not laughter.
@maka8551
3 жыл бұрын
soft
@bryanpaine5648
2 жыл бұрын
sorry if the joke flew over my head, but can someone explain the funny part of 'im team terf!' like, idk if it's just me, but i don't see a setup and punchline, i just see dave openly aligning himself with a group thats sole purpose is hating trans people lmao
@howdydoo9148
2 жыл бұрын
That wasn’t the joke, he used that as the setup. The joke was him saying he’s a terf bc “gender is a fact” and he basically says: “Every person in this room came through the legs of a woman. I’m not saying trans women aren’t women, put those pussys ya got, that’s like…beyond pussy or impossible pussy. I mean it smells like pussy, but that’s beer juice.”
@heavyhandedheart777
2 жыл бұрын
exactly. it's not even a joke it's just him making a statement
@EvanSaltare
3 жыл бұрын
Dave went from being this energetic dude to a calmer onstage presence that still had funny shit to say while being more observational. That was the perfect balance for him, funny but having social commentary thrown in that made you feel like you got moments of realness in between jokes. Now he just seems tired and bitter. He's been getting worse ever since that shit with comedy central. It feels like he's not concerned with making jokes so much as he is venting about shit that don't make sense to him. It's like that inner peace he found in the years after he quit Chappelle's Show has run dry. It still seems like he has some of that idgaf but now it's more standoffish rather than just not letting shit bother him. Bottom line is he's a comedian. Worry about writing funny jokes. When most of the set is just you trying to make a point to an audience without telling jokes but literally just talking at them, you're fucking up.
@ThiccMints
3 жыл бұрын
That's the other thing no one is talking about with Dave, his bits have become half speeches and have less of the armor that jokes supposedly have anyway.
@lemonine2712
3 жыл бұрын
Exactly!!
@swimsvg1855
3 жыл бұрын
@@ThiccMints he seems like he's not even trying to make jokes anymore, hes just hopping on stage to rant about random current events and then leave.
@corneliusrawness
3 жыл бұрын
It's because his friend died over this. It's personal.
@AMultipolarWorldIsEmerging
3 жыл бұрын
Dave Chappelle has all the same comic timing as he used to but his actual material has gotten bitter over time and basically it just doesn’t match his comic timing. I laughed very sparsely in these last few ones. It’s pretty obvious to me people pretend it’s so funny Bc of the transphobia and political implications. Same dude who talks a lot about how bad racism is doesn’t get how bad transphobia is
@starmanda88
3 жыл бұрын
Bitter is a good word for it. I agree 100%
@MeSureBack
3 жыл бұрын
@Andy_ bigotry is bigotry be quiet
@kiri7678
3 жыл бұрын
I honestly still found sticks and stones pretty funny, largely because the whole special wasn't really about the LGBT community, but still had a range of topics with that just being one of them. I found the recent special much more bitter though, instead of just having it as a topic to make a joke or two about, Dave seemed pretty obsessed with just ranting about it for an hour, which is odd considering he doesn't really have any need to talk about trans people. As someone who is gay and supportive of the trans movement I didn't really find the content offensive, I just found it pretty unfunny, there was a limited amount of actual humour and a lot of it has just been fuel for right wing political speakers. Feel like he should just stop whilst his legacy is still intact at this point.
@MegaSilverBlood
3 жыл бұрын
As a mexican who has never even set foot in the US, seems to me like Dave has an issue with the lgbt community trying to skip their turn on being treated equal, and I think many people dont get that. And maybe thats just my pov too as someone on the outside Hes saying "we (black people) are still being treated unequally, why the fuck should you get special treatment before we do?" I dont know, my opinion doesnt matter, is just the way I see it
@tiredandsad2839
3 жыл бұрын
What makes people think he doesn't get how bad transphobia is? Im so utterly lost here, lol.
@solodolotrevino
3 жыл бұрын
I think the aim of the special was more an indictment on white liberals and the weaponization of gender identity. But he spends the entire time fixating on the handful of people on Twitter talking shit. “I’m being canceled!” is a played out schtick. Easily his weakest special.
@evildie999
3 жыл бұрын
piss poor aim
@TrentonF505
2 жыл бұрын
Agreed there’s definitely good points to be made, but he just complained the whole time about terminally online dipshits and told tired trans jokes that have been on the internet for years. Also, I don’t see how him telling the story about Daphne is any different from white people saying “I can’t be racist I have a black friend.” Seemed pretty low of him to bring up her death in a comedy act.
@cremetangerine82
2 жыл бұрын
@@TrentonF505 Also, calling her suicide death “handrail shit” is disgusting and he never attended her funeral or memorial services.
@Min-kp7ei
3 жыл бұрын
Celebrities and artists have a very weird tendency to equate criticism with silencing them. It's so fucking out of touch and looks stupid.
@dash2240
3 жыл бұрын
What's the goal of the protests then?
@describedby_3953
3 жыл бұрын
I agree to an extent, thing is, people were actually asking for the special to get removed, that goes beyond criticism
@jamesembrey3100
3 жыл бұрын
They literally want his special off Netflix. That is silencing him.
@dash2240
3 жыл бұрын
@Ajay R that doesn't answer my question. Criticism is one massive step removed from protesting. You're telling me Netflix employees are leaving their work space, picketing their employer and their goal isn't to stop them from producing that content they dislike? I don't see how that makes any sense
@b.h.thebadass8107
3 жыл бұрын
the biggest issue im seeing from both sides of this entire thing is generalization. i stg there's this obsession with placing everyone with a group and associating every single human within that group with the exact same personality. i say this to basically say that there was definitely people who were simply just criticizing the material. there were also people who wanted to shut down the entire special (shutting down someone's art can be seen as an equivalent to silencing). two different groups but both in opposition of the special itself. i don't know the ratio of people who want him "silenced" to people who were just criticizing. but so say no one wants him "silenced" is a bit absurd.
@jmanfym
3 жыл бұрын
I agreed with everything in this video, up until you started advocating for Dave Chappelle to become Trans himself.
@theelectricant98
3 жыл бұрын
How else can he gain a shred of empathy
@SquatsAndOats2plate
3 жыл бұрын
Fantano being MtM (Male to Melon) sure has his position
@tiredandsad2839
3 жыл бұрын
@@theelectricant98 Empathy doesn't require that you walk in someones exact footsteps. I dont have to get run over by a car to feel bad/ understand and grieve about it when it happens to someone else. Thats stupid.
@sleepedge8257
3 жыл бұрын
@@tiredandsad2839 i think the joke is that some people will never empathise with struggles that don't effect them personally or that they deem to be not real issues.
@tiredandsad2839
3 жыл бұрын
@@sleepedge8257 Maybe that was the joke yeah, however I fail to see how Dave chapelle making jokes about trans people means that he doesn't empathize with them. Just because you're making jokes doesn't mean you think any less of their struggles.
@alancantu2557
3 жыл бұрын
I feel like this whole thing wouldn’t be such a big deal if Dave wasn’t such a hypocrite. At the end of the day, he’s just a rich dude who likes picking on marginalized groups which isn’t cool.
@connorthompson3267
3 жыл бұрын
How is he picking on anyone you buffoon
@swimsvg1855
3 жыл бұрын
@@connorthompson3267 he literally said he was team terf lol
@maka8551
3 жыл бұрын
soft
@maka8551
3 жыл бұрын
@@swimsvg1855 soft
@chrisblanchard6413
3 жыл бұрын
Yeah we should only make fun of the non marginalized groups, anything else is just mean and honestly rude.
@ubsurd0729
2 жыл бұрын
I used to be a big Chapelle fan and "The Closer" broke me, he just felt very jaded and I don't feel like he's gonna try to learn because him doubling down should be a pretty obvious sign of where he is on that line.
@ubsurd0729
2 жыл бұрын
also him being featured on Crowder and Steven siding with him is pretty telling....
@Nitrodino7875
2 жыл бұрын
Same here brother same here
@cremetangerine82
2 жыл бұрын
Same here. It wasn’t funny (save a couple of jokes), got 20 million dollars by punching down, also spewed out racist (against Asian Americans) and anti-Semitic (Jewish people controlling space) and misogynoir (black women being “pushy bitches’) didn’t get called out enough. He seems so fragile about criticism about his transphobia (and homophobia in “Sticks and Stones”) garbage while trans women are being killed, harassed, victims of domestic abuse, victims of sexual violence, denied healthcare, denied housing, denied employment, denied sports participation, etc. He can STFU!
@liquidconscience
3 жыл бұрын
I appreciate the nuance you bring to this conversation in a space that seems to be largely just trying to ignore this issue. A lot of people are arguing in bad faith and a LOT of those people think Chappelle didn't do anything wrong and refuse to hear anything else
@bonz7720
3 жыл бұрын
He didn't do anything wrong, he made jokes that everyone is being overly sensitve about, jokes at the end of the day are just that...jokes, intended to make people laugh, if you don't think the jokes are funny then that's not your cup of tea ana move on. I don't see people complaining about music/movies that don't appeal towards them and calling for them to be pulled but once it comes to the comedy art form they're all up in arms about what can and cannot be joked about. He is not transphobic, his material/jokes has never been intended to bring hate to the transgender community in any way, you'd know all of this if you watched his specials/followed his comedy.
@liquidconscience
3 жыл бұрын
@@bonz7720 overly sensitive? Wait, like how you're being about my comment right now? Wild...
@bonz7720
3 жыл бұрын
@@liquidconscience I'm not being overly sensitive at all, I'm just stating my conflicting view on the issue and trying to have a regular discussion with you, I'm not organizing marches or walkouts because of your comments, barging into meetings or leaking company data or asking that KZitem take down your comments because I find them offensive, but that's exactly what the trans community were doing.
@betagoodness
3 жыл бұрын
@@bonz7720 Remember when Chappelle said he was "team TERF"? Do you know what TERFs are? They're a hate group. They are man/trans-hating feminists. Imagine a white guy made a special, and said this: "So nazis are saying that race, is a fact. I also believe race is a fact. I guess I'm team Nazi." Would you, or even Chappelle himself be cool with that? Misrepresenting a hate group and full on endorsing them in ignorance is not a good look.
@Atlas_Arts
3 жыл бұрын
@@betagoodness that sounds funny to me
@RTOneStopMediaShop
3 жыл бұрын
Why do y’all idolize celebrities and put them on a pedestal to be disappointed? Just like or dislike their content and move on
@michaelotis223
3 жыл бұрын
Exactly. Dave is a human being. In evolution terms, he is a work in progress like the rest of us!!
@MrBreadisawesome
3 жыл бұрын
This
@AntonChigurh-
3 жыл бұрын
It’s what happens when you don’t worship God, you end up worshipping humans like celebrities.
@ThiccMints
3 жыл бұрын
Cause sometimes people can inspire and uplift us, causing you to have respect for them. And when they do something that really disappoints you it can bum you out.
@swimsvg1855
3 жыл бұрын
@@michaelotis223 problem is that it seems like he evolved backwards lmao
@JordanG123
3 жыл бұрын
Watch out Melon the triggered conservatives are incoming
@JJ-gh2is
3 жыл бұрын
I, like a lot of others, don’t agree with quite a bit of what you say online, and I know you don’t care, which I have so much respect for. The dislike ratio on your last chappelle vid was significant, and instead of deleting it or avoiding the subject, you’ve doubled down. You’re the same with your reviews, regardless of who you’ve interviewed or any external factors. So much respect for that - it’s what keeps me coming back 😊
@pangiokuhli512
3 жыл бұрын
this is the same man who gave MBDTF a six out of ten..... twice..... ten years apart 😂
@mdh_masalewale8681
3 жыл бұрын
Seriously though, this is NOT an opinion he can even remotely pedal back on. Anyone who is supporting Dave Chappelle is uneducated on trans issues, and is just high on the "muh blue haired SJWs gonna cancel poor multi-millionaire Dave Chappelle"
@valx5
3 жыл бұрын
@@pangiokuhli512 damn, it’s almost like music is subjective and his job is simply to give his own opinion, not to validate the opinions of others
@pangiokuhli512
3 жыл бұрын
@@valx5 I am well aware of that pal but good reminder anyway 👍
@astronova6150
3 жыл бұрын
@@valx5 thank you captain obvious
@SamSullyV
3 жыл бұрын
I've watched and love every Dave Chappelle special. This special was his worst. Not all his fans think he's on the right side of this. This special felt petty and weak.
@chrism7163
3 жыл бұрын
I think it was good.
@swimsvg1855
3 жыл бұрын
@@chrism7163 it wasn't
@chrism7163
3 жыл бұрын
@@swimsvg1855 it was, it even got 93% audience score
@ringer1324
3 жыл бұрын
@@chrism7163 yet he still claims he’s being oppressed.
@chrism7163
3 жыл бұрын
@@ringer1324 technically he is if your being blackballed from screening your documentary from almost every company. You act like rich blacks can’t be blocked from opportunities
@kiandocherty3589
2 жыл бұрын
Dave Chappelle doing all this feels as depressing as Ye putting on the MAGA hat and supporting Trump.
@111calvin6
2 жыл бұрын
“real life episode of when keeping it real goes wrong” hilarious comparison 😭
@jamieslacks
3 жыл бұрын
Chappelle stans think people aren’t listening to what Dave is “actually saying”, meanwhile he is dismissing what an entire group of people are actually saying.
@dylanmangan9580
3 жыл бұрын
A radical part of the community. Don’t speak for the entire lgbtq community.
@jamieslacks
3 жыл бұрын
@@dylanmangan9580 I’m not? The group would be those harmed, I wasn’t specific, relax.
@jodajoda2863
3 жыл бұрын
Chappelle stans be like, "Come on, he ONLY misgendered a trans woman who killed herself and said he was a TERF and said that he doesn't think trans women are real women why can't you just listen to what he was saying?"
@jamieslacks
3 жыл бұрын
@@jodajoda2863 Killed herself shortly after a largely visible interaction with Dave Chappelle, who also said she wasn’t funny. So if he can say trans women aren’t funny, then trans women can definitely say he isn’t funny either. I don’t see the problem here, but then again, that’s what Chappelle stans are saying.
@kadeemmotley2160
3 жыл бұрын
@@dylanmangan9580 Trans people are a radical part of the LBGTQ community?
@McNutEVD
3 жыл бұрын
i’ll accept jokes of any nature as long as they’re funny and honestly his last special was just not that funny. i watched it before i knew the media shitstorm it caused and i remember thinking, “damn, this dude really phoned it in” without a thought in the world about how his doubling down on previous remarks.
@ParanoidThalyyMVS
3 жыл бұрын
Sticks and Stones was funnier, but, IMO, this was funny too, not a really really funny special, but, got some laughs out of me, and honestly, humor is subjective so, to each their own.
@deadislander
3 жыл бұрын
He's still Chappelle. He's tired, he's older.
@KanyeNuts
3 жыл бұрын
damn you definitely didn’t watch it then and i know you didn’t so don’t try to lie buddy
@FirstnameLastname-nd9wx
3 жыл бұрын
a joke being unfunny doesn't make it suddenly your genuine thoughts. it just makes it a bad joke. there's not a separate line of what can be joked about for funny jokes and unfunny jokes. either its out of bounds or it isn't
@starmanda88
3 жыл бұрын
@@KanyeNuts ah yes someone disagrees with you so they must be lying. Are you 15?
@mustashee
3 жыл бұрын
3:16 "If they had invited me, I would have accepted it." 10:21 "I am more than willing to give you an audience, but you will not summon me. I am not bending to anybody's demands." ...that kinda sounds like refusal doesn't it? I'm confused.
@maka8551
3 жыл бұрын
soft
@brosb4hoes696969
2 жыл бұрын
Bit out of context but is what it is.
@TrentonF505
2 жыл бұрын
Back when the world was more conservative, people were getting arrested for jokes considered too obscene. Dave has the freedom to make any joke he wants, yet he still has a major victim complex when people criticize him.
@jacknick7582
3 жыл бұрын
dave and seinfeld both have this mentality
@JRHamify
3 жыл бұрын
Seinfeld is literally the worst. Been doing the same material for 30 years and he acts like he's the most important voice and greatest comedian to ever get on stage
@MrTeamFoolish
3 жыл бұрын
Snorefeld
@robertpetrie6847
3 жыл бұрын
But Dave is funny
@maka8551
3 жыл бұрын
soft
@maka8551
3 жыл бұрын
@@JRHamify soft
@Revealingstorm.
3 жыл бұрын
He seems more like a politician right now than a comedian.
@swimsvg1855
3 жыл бұрын
And not even a very good one either
@swimsvg1855
3 жыл бұрын
@Messaoudi Youssef fair point
@AngusKhaw
3 жыл бұрын
The comments don't reflect the like ratio at all. No shot these Chapelle simps are actually watching the full video.
@swimsvg1855
3 жыл бұрын
Deadass
@xenos_n.
3 жыл бұрын
I love your name & avatar 😂
@Alejandro-te2nt
3 жыл бұрын
I just dont get how this is comedy. it seems more like a politician giving a speech after a sex scandal
@chrism7163
3 жыл бұрын
It had jokes so Its comedy
@connorthompson3267
3 жыл бұрын
It's the sad truth about our world masked as comedy
@lemonine2712
3 жыл бұрын
@@chrism7163 but they didn’t feel like jokes they felt more like rants
@chrism7163
3 жыл бұрын
@@lemonine2712 doesn’t matter what it felt like, they are written as jokes. Most of the jokes in the special had a punchline
@maka8551
3 жыл бұрын
soft
@nunya5136
3 жыл бұрын
I ended up watching the special because I’ve heard a lot about Chappelle these days… I was curious what the fuss was about. So I did not know much about him (I am outside US)…and to be honest, it just wasn’t funny. I feel like Bill Burr would have discussed the same thing and would have delivered it in a much smarter and funnier way. I guess he would have moved on from any backlash too. He has some good points…and everyone is entitled to agree… or not…It all seems a bit pointless to me.
@ryanandring2688
3 жыл бұрын
Bill burr kicks ass!
@cripplingcaffeineaddiction3847
3 жыл бұрын
you should go watch some of Dave chappelles actually good material
@bluepearl_22
3 жыл бұрын
Bill Burr would've probably moved on from the trans jokes 3 specials ago, back when they were still new and fresh. I also think he would've carried on from the backlash since he's not as sensitive as Dave imo (which makes sense since he got roasted by the goat of roasting, Patrice O'Neal, for years).
@swimsvg1855
3 жыл бұрын
@@bluepearl_22 I also feel like burr would give a lot more disclaimers and also attempt to sympathize and describe the other side of the situation too, not just shit on the floor and ask other people to mop it up like dave did.
@maka8551
3 жыл бұрын
soft
@ImK4Os
3 жыл бұрын
I love Chappelle, but I have to admit I don't really see why he keeps talking about trans people. I would understand it if he had a funny angle or was making a form of unique commentary about it, but he's essentially just repeating this he has already said over and over and not bringing anything new to the conversation. It certainly wasn't his best work either, at least with the other times he talked about it he was making semi interesting points
@LiftedBlader
3 жыл бұрын
His best attempt at a point in the recent special falls flat, because Dababy acted in self defense when people came up to his family with guns already drawn. It isn't confusing that people get mad at someone being bigoted, but not at him defending himself and his family. So Dave worsens the perspective on a black man, but later glosses over the controversies surrounding a white woman (Rowling). The irony is too fucking thick here, and anyone defending Chappelle is choking on it
@wasabijones4571
3 жыл бұрын
we dont give a shit
@JeroAlmufakir
2 жыл бұрын
"When keeping it real goes wrong" irl 🤣🤣
@ays162
3 жыл бұрын
I just feel bad for chapelle thinking declaring himself a terf is funny? At least try making it funny and I'll laugh. And then feels the need to diss Gadsby whose style I usually don't like but actually laughed at her sad ass special which is something I can't say for the closer
@corneliusrawness
3 жыл бұрын
He didn't think it was funny. He's serious. His view is that Trans women =/= biological women.
@sakshamtyagi9652
3 жыл бұрын
@@corneliusrawness Trans women are women but they are not biological women and I don't know how can anyone deny that.
@sakshamtyagi9652
3 жыл бұрын
Bruh I understand if someone doesn't find The Closer funny but saying that god awful Gadsby set was better ? Like give me a break ffs. It wasn't a great set by Dave Chapelle standard but on it's own it was still pretty decent. You could refer to any joke out of context and it would seem unfunny.
@corneliusrawness
3 жыл бұрын
@@sakshamtyagi9652 I don't even think his main intention was an attempt of merely "being funny".
@sakshamtyagi9652
3 жыл бұрын
@@corneliusrawness well it wasn't solely being funny clearly but I don't think it should be that hard to differentiate when something absurd he says is a joke or when it's a serious statement.
@MysticalMastodon
3 жыл бұрын
NASA won’t hire me because of corporate interests.
@BoCaine
3 жыл бұрын
no you're an unqualified rube
@georgehernandez2156
3 жыл бұрын
I thought melon would support a fellow melon
@brandonayong5823
3 жыл бұрын
When you're accused of hating on someone and in the follow up video you disclaim it with how big of a fan you are of the person
@alvaboy4982
3 жыл бұрын
Yes that is what happened lol
@MrLurchMedia
3 жыл бұрын
He's opined about Chappelle's work before. I don't know what you're talking about.
@TomTom-sm7il
3 жыл бұрын
Fans are the biggest haters.
@DoctorMorpheus
3 жыл бұрын
Fantano, react to Sam Hyde’s disstrack
@blarghblargh
2 жыл бұрын
lol why. that guy isn't worth the effort
@Sauce787
3 жыл бұрын
Damn, i can't believe that Fantano video got dislike bombed. It seemed pretty uncontroversial to me.
@Jack-pp2ng
3 жыл бұрын
They don't listen to the words he says, same type of people to click on the reveiw and find the score in the description and dip
@HieronymousLex
3 жыл бұрын
@@Jack-pp2ng you’re implying that 100% of people who listen to and understand Fantano’s opinion must agree with him. You’re delusional
@Jack-pp2ng
3 жыл бұрын
@@HieronymousLex I'm talking about the people that disliked it immediately as it was uploaded doofus
@HieronymousLex
3 жыл бұрын
@@Jack-pp2ng how do you know that those dislike aren’t legitimate? You realize it’s possible for people to disagree right
@Jack-pp2ng
3 жыл бұрын
@@HieronymousLex because they literally didn't have time to hear his opinion
@travishanes8485
3 жыл бұрын
Dave probably loved Buck Breaking
@maka8551
3 жыл бұрын
soft
@travishanes8485
3 жыл бұрын
@@maka8551 do you even know the reference?
@alex6455
3 жыл бұрын
Sounds like my drunk uncle
@freelance_commie
3 жыл бұрын
What?! DAVE CHAPPELLE CAN’T GO TO NETFLIX?! Now that is truly upsetting….
@alxsrt7931
3 жыл бұрын
Did he forget his password?
@ringer1324
3 жыл бұрын
He can have my password I have room for another profile
@maka8551
3 жыл бұрын
soft
@trevorward9909
2 жыл бұрын
Dave’s devolution has been a long, slow and arduous one. 3 specials ago he was towing a thin line. 2 specials he was off handily making jokes about “alleged” victims of MJ, and eventually he’s shown that he cares a lot more about complaining that he’s in troouuuble with the woookkkeeee community. Give me a break. You got held accountable for some shitty jokes. He’s not downtrodden. He’s privileged. Especially when the ACTUAL community that’s the brunt of his jokes DO deal with oppression 24/7. I love ya, Dave, but it’s tough seeing you boomer out SO hard and selfishly.
@howdydoo9148
2 жыл бұрын
“Victims” LOL NO
@AMultipolarWorldIsEmerging
3 жыл бұрын
If it was about corporate interests then why is Netflix backing him 100% and firing the people who criticized the special
@jamesembrey3100
3 жыл бұрын
They fired one person that leaked Netflix analytics data.
@bonz7720
3 жыл бұрын
Again misinformation, the people that were fired crashed an executives meeting they weren't invited to and the other person leaked company info.
@kush6846
3 жыл бұрын
@@bonz7720 tbh these seem like valid reasons to fire someone, people need to relax
@kylegonewild
3 жыл бұрын
@@bonz7720 Maybe it was a different person at a different company but I seem to recall some people pushing this narrative recently about an employee who barged into a meeting for which, in fact, they received an invite to attend.
@crunchysalmons
3 жыл бұрын
if dave chapelle were to have a trans child he would make sure to let the kid know that they’re more oppressed for being black than for being trans and those oppressions are apparently mutually exclusive according to dave
@bonz7720
3 жыл бұрын
This isn't the oppression Olympics, Yes Black people are more oppressed than trans people, this is a fact. slavery literally existed for hundred of years and the implications are still felt in today's society, a black person regardless of their sexual orientation/gender will be oppressed as a black person first before anything else. I fail to see the point of your whole comment.
@WillToNihilsm
3 жыл бұрын
You're white huh?
@starmanda88
3 жыл бұрын
@@bonz7720 no one is murdered more at a greater rate that trans black women. This comment is why intersectionality is so vital in this conversation. No it’s not an oppression olympics but people can be oppressed for multiple reasons.
@giraffe357
3 жыл бұрын
Yeah that’s totally what he said in the special. That being black and trans are mutually exclusive forms of oppression.
@crunchysalmons
3 жыл бұрын
@@bonz7720 you absolute goon, that’s my whole point. this theoretical child would then explain intersectionality to their ancient dad, dave is the one entered in oppression olympics literally begging to be cancelled when he could instead be uplifting and platforminf his fellow oppressed. perhaps with an emphasis on trans black women and how they’re the most targeted group. dave would never say this tho his problem is clearly his deep ingrained fear of finding a woman with a penis
@Actuallytimwayngacy
3 жыл бұрын
Nigga Dave said one sentence and melon went off for like ten minutes then paused again to continue on the same point.
@biker9476
3 жыл бұрын
“It sounds like I’m the only one that can’t go to the office” Dave. David. Mr. Chappelle. It’s not about you. You don’t even have an office there! It’s not all about you.
@M.J44
2 жыл бұрын
That so obviously wasn't the point of him saying that but go off
@tyler3876
8 ай бұрын
Dave Chappelle is still extremely funny. But I do think he needs to focus less on marketing tactics and more on comedy
@diegogomez4138
2 жыл бұрын
People please, no one is angry because someone thinks the closer is boring, please stop saying that, is stupid. People is angry because is tired of the abuse of some social movements who believe they are untouchable
@ericanderson4201
3 жыл бұрын
He thinks he’s like a wise sage now and doesn’t even really tell jokes anymore.
@dh-ck2om
3 жыл бұрын
@Andy_ u just owned them gottemmmm pwnd
@kylegonewild
3 жыл бұрын
@Andy_ "He's just telling jokes but I genuinely dismiss and dislike trans people." Thanks for admitting it, I guess.
@fede2
3 жыл бұрын
I laughed in parts, but there was too much of a bitter energy to it. Serious persecution-complex bullshit all over the place. Not to mention the ignorant, uninformed crap about trans people (in particular the JK Rowling affair).
@maka8551
3 жыл бұрын
soft
@brandbusters183
3 жыл бұрын
My man just wanted to fulfill the Netflix contract I guess, the Special seemed I am afraid to say it "Half-Baked".
@maka8551
3 жыл бұрын
soft
@emeraldcelestial1058
2 жыл бұрын
Fantano so damn based
@s.dweller1935
2 жыл бұрын
Dave seems like he wants to be an “important comic” in the words of the late Norm Macdonald.
@Decrapitate
3 жыл бұрын
I don’t agree with a lot of his points and his approach with his list of demands, yet do we really think with the history of our country Black men are always given a chance to be heard? Yeah, he’s a celebrity and all of those things melon said, but critiquing that line is probably a no go. Everyone wants to be heard, and giving both sides the chance to speak and be heard is part of how communication, reflection and understanding can be achieved. Fantano might see Chapelle as a mighty figure who dominates the airwaves (and I don’t see that as untrue), but how secure does any black man feel walking around in their own skin in America? Flipping that thought I’m sure many (if not all) non binary or trans people also have felt as if they might not have a chance to be listened to by the masses. This whole thing is sad to watch seeing both communities as equally important and worthy of our attention.
@kaingates
3 жыл бұрын
So you agree that it is a dick move by Dave to pit the two communities against each other?
@Decrapitate
3 жыл бұрын
@@kaingates I get behind that statement. I know his thing is to prod people with his comedy, and ultimately that will illicit a response from those who feel targeted and in turn those who have blind allegiance to him might jump on to defend his actions. I do think his entire career has focused on being slightly controversial. I didn’t expect him to go after the trans/non binary community like that and hope he doesn’t truly feel that way as a person, but there’s no reason at all to think that’s the truth at this point. All I can do is speculate on his motives and intent and honestly that’s not worth posting because I don’t actually know. So here I am just wishing there could be more respect and feeling bummed about the situation. If you were looking for me to place blame for who initiated this sad situation it was Dave Chapelle. We wouldnt be talking about this without him saying what he said
@rainydaygirlz
3 жыл бұрын
Except this isn't a black VS queer thing, it's an asshole who happens to be black VS queer people thing. There are black queer people, they are not two completely separate conflicting identities.
@ryansnipez2308
3 жыл бұрын
and yet the lgbt communitity seems to be the loudest on social media.
@Decrapitate
3 жыл бұрын
@@rainydaygirlz Yeah, totally there are black people in the LGBTQ community. I definitely didn’t write or intend the takeaway to be anything about black vs queer. Until you brought it up that wasn’t in the discussion. I do remember an article written where a queer comic was interviewed and brought “black vs queer” up in the same way you did. Wow, Just tried to source that article for you and now like 10 articles are up choosing that narrative to write and focus on. Perhaps something like this was what Chapelle was thinking when talking about wanting to be at the table to talk about this rather than everyone speaking for him? This is why I wanted both parties to be heard rather than someone else coming in and putting their own spin on it and not allowing the individual who said it speak and a select group who would be willing to talk to him about it take the lead in this situation. I just wanted to say the whole thing is still sad, and that Anthony shouldn’t talk about how anyone who identifies as one or both of these groups “should” feel or think considering he’s never walked around identifying as either or both parties.
@zachstolpa6521
3 жыл бұрын
He just has to address his honest feeling on TERFs , that’s not hard to come to that conclusion
@itsallenwow
3 жыл бұрын
At least JK Rowling is up front about it
@corneliusrawness
3 жыл бұрын
@@itsallenwow He addressed it in the special... pretty plain.
@zachstolpa6521
3 жыл бұрын
@@corneliusrawness he clearly came off viewing the term terf as “that’s to hard to learn about” more or less with the team terf joke. That’s not really an honest take
@corneliusrawness
3 жыл бұрын
@@zachstolpa6521 I don’t see why people keep taking that as a joke. He was pretty plain with that.
@zachstolpa6521
3 жыл бұрын
@@corneliusrawness terfs usually don’t have trans friends which chappelle has used as something to site for how he feels. There’s very much confusion.
@unknowngeek777
3 жыл бұрын
Dave Chappelle is milking the clock before he has to go take his gender sensitivity training seminar
@shaneo2296
2 жыл бұрын
"You're watching, when keeping it real goes wrong..."
@DudesterGX
3 жыл бұрын
I'm pretty sure Dave thinks people are Parrotting arguments of others instead of coming to their own conclusions, hence why he's insisting people see the special before having a face to face convo. I had 3 personal friends who were talking about valid specific moments from the special that were problematic, but they hadn't seen the special or any context. I even heard the controversy without having seen it, but when I did see it my opinion was different afterward. There were some funny jokes in there, and the context surround the situation of Daphne to me came across as heartfelt.
@JordanG123
3 жыл бұрын
It ain't much to use a random trans person liking you as justification for you to continue mocking trans people as a whole. That's a conservative tokenization narrative old as time.
@joaquin5028
3 жыл бұрын
It was really heartfelt when he kept misgendering her
@corneliusrawness
3 жыл бұрын
@@JordanG123 That's not what he was getting at. Have you people still failed to realize that pushing the jokes was the point? It's like "ok I'll give you something to cancel me about". That's what people fail to miss; instead of taking the special as a whole idea they just cherry pick ideas when that isn't the intended purpose.
@gaybuzzlightyear1294
3 жыл бұрын
So sick of hearing about this shit
@deadislander
3 жыл бұрын
The corporations here's referring to are the people who backed out on publishing his documentary I believe. Nobody wanting anything to do with him other than Netflix because he's too controversial.
@noahmiller6193
3 жыл бұрын
It's the whole thing of: "Can I say fuckhead?" "Well you just did so I guess"
@sumyungguy00
3 жыл бұрын
Dave chappelle is becoming the Eminem of comedy
@MeloMelly
3 жыл бұрын
I was about to write the same thing lol. This was his Kamikaze
@skankhunt-bd4zv
3 жыл бұрын
That is actually a good way to put it. His new shit is pretty meh, But his late 90's - Early 00's shit is goated. He had a different style, Different material, Now his routine is just constantly ripping on his haters lol
@maka8551
3 жыл бұрын
soft
@maka8551
3 жыл бұрын
@@MeloMelly soft
@maka8551
3 жыл бұрын
@@skankhunt-bd4zv soft
@Spaghetti-dinner
2 жыл бұрын
Shout out Yellow Springs
@fromthehills814
3 жыл бұрын
I feel like it someone yelled "the Netflix CEO is defending you though" Dave would have shut up instantly. "The Closer" is the biggest special in 2021. He's the definition of corporate interests. Dudes either ignorant, malicious, or dumb.
@sakshamtyagi9652
3 жыл бұрын
But he's still struggling to sell his movie tho so it's not like he ain't facing any loses
@fromthehills814
3 жыл бұрын
@@sakshamtyagi9652 what movie?
@sakshamtyagi9652
3 жыл бұрын
@@fromthehills814 his documentary of some sort
@0Doves0
3 жыл бұрын
Dave literally acknowledge that Netflix is the only Corp who hadnt cancelled him yet. Did you even watch his response? Better yet, did you even watch the comedy special? Or are you getting mad because people told you to?
@fromthehills814
3 жыл бұрын
@@sakshamtyagi9652 could you link me something about that? I haven't seen anything like that, so now I'm curious
@jackconorria4033
2 жыл бұрын
Serious question, why is there so much backlash against this special???
@matthewlueder2656
2 жыл бұрын
It's funny you say that because the backlash against the backlash is many orders of magnitude larger
@johnpower29
3 жыл бұрын
He's wasted
@TeamBaconUK
3 жыл бұрын
I'm just kind of surprised people still liked the closer. I very much enjoyed sticks and stones, and it really felt lile Dave was at the top of the game. And look im not a comedian, i wouldn't know where to start in writing a stand up routine...but the Closer just felt amateur. It sounded like it would be someones first stand up routine. That forced me to click off, not any subject matter
@KingLoop13
3 жыл бұрын
Of course Dave’s not at the top of his game. The Closer was about his grievances with comedy and society just, quite frankly, not being as funny nowadays. It’s impossible for Chappelle to focus on good material because there is so much manufactured outrage over this stuff, so clearly it’s on his mind and he feels the need to address it.
@TeamBaconUK
3 жыл бұрын
@@KingLoop13 I feel like a somewhat redeemable quality is if you see it as almost a modern art piece of purposefully incomplete comedy, it may have a message. I just feel it doesn't even hit that note well
@KingLoop13
3 жыл бұрын
@@TeamBaconUK Sure, but you could argue that for any of Hannah Gadsby’s specials that have been lauded as the best comedy in years. They’re comedy with heavy doses of social commentary. Chappelle’s been doing this for some time now, his last like 4 shows have all been commentaries whether it was after the death of George Floyd, or general comments on being black in America.
@kush6846
3 жыл бұрын
I still liked it but I agree that It’s not his best, and fans saying otherwise is baffling. To me the closer seemed more like a confrontation rather than a comedy special. He’s being paid 20 million just to vent and that’s what it felt like.
@TeamBaconUK
3 жыл бұрын
@@KingLoop13 i dont even watch Hannah Gadsby, and I can only just about guess which one she is (she's the blonde one in front of the screen right???) But even if you refresh shit with vomit it won't be a good thing. Not saying The Closer was vomit bad but still, come from both ends both not good. Chappelles previous specials did send very potent messages, far far better than the closer
@nicksschiaretti6043
3 жыл бұрын
in his defense, he always says lbgt
@StarkRavn
3 жыл бұрын
This sums up Gend X comedians quite well; complaining that they're being de-platformed on a literal platform.
@unicornblazer5470
3 жыл бұрын
Hes right about yalls ears being brittle so damn sensitive man
@pangiokuhli512
3 жыл бұрын
this is the same man who once got triggered at a white man laughing TOO hard at his OWN joke. Dave Chapelle has always been soft as tissue let's not lie to ourselves here
@astronova6150
3 жыл бұрын
Grow up dude
@kylegonewild
3 жыл бұрын
@@pangiokuhli512 "One white man in a crowd laughed at me in a way I didn't find comfortable so I quit my job, disappeared to Africa and did some soul searching." "The trans community is too sensitive over jokes." This is the same person.
@chrism7163
3 жыл бұрын
@@kylegonewild “people may have gotten mad over what I said but I said it” Dave Chappelle in 2005. Same guy. Also that wasn’t the Main reason he left the show
@chrism7163
3 жыл бұрын
@@kylegonewild he did some soul searching cause he was being pimped. Try again
@michaelakologo5475
3 жыл бұрын
he clearly didn't read the demands of the transcommumity
@brandbusters183
3 жыл бұрын
I love Chappelle but Ironically enough this was his Nanette Special, Where are the Jokes? You already made the same Point better in Sticks & Stones.
@samuelrobb9383
2 жыл бұрын
robin hood men in tights IS goated lol
@JazzRoyalty
3 жыл бұрын
I don't think it has anything to do with Dave being a gen X'er that doesn't have the tools to deal with an audience able to replicate. I do think Netflix was on Dave's side during his recent and EPIC endeavor against Comedy Central and streaming services. He had one last special with Netflix and since his style of comedy is leaning more and more towards story telling anyway I figure it is not inexplicable that he gave birth to something different than his usual specials not necessarily to leave Netflix with all his Sticks and stones hot takes answered and cleared but just as a closing argument, a funny one at that about the role of comedy in our society.
@JazzRoyalty
3 жыл бұрын
Plus Dave doesn't say Netflix employees want his special taken down, he says he's ready to give them a platform which is completely different. On the topic of him being oblivious to the fact that social progress can be achieved for all minorities at the same time, I refer you to the part of his special where he narrates a story that illustrates a reality about the differences inside the LGBTQ community based on whether you're Black or White and the interactions between White members of the LGBTQ community and Black people outside that community. It is a known fact that in many a social situation with high stakes ie interacting with the police, although they are queer White people will interact with the police as White people.
@AlecBurriss
2 жыл бұрын
Never has a man complained so much about making so much
@Carlos-xz3vi
2 жыл бұрын
Chappelle bores me at this point, honestly. He has become insufferable. Still the GOAT though.
@joegreenwell5476
3 жыл бұрын
He could be buzzed, but I noticed him saying LBGTQ during The Closer. I don’t know if he says it like that in his other specials.
@xenos_n.
3 жыл бұрын
As a B, I wish he said BLGTQ, but I'll settle for moving up one rung on the ladder. I guess the L's will always reign supreme.
@joegreenwell5476
3 жыл бұрын
@@xenos_n. Movin on up!
@freelance_commie
3 жыл бұрын
Ego + $$$ = darkness
@Loki_Leftist
Жыл бұрын
Political melon 🔥
@Sea_witch_
3 жыл бұрын
Wonder what past Dave would think.... Sadly booze plays a big part here.
@carpeimodiem
3 жыл бұрын
Why aren't you watching the full 5 minute clip? No time for love, Dr Jones??
@mizfit315
3 жыл бұрын
They’re trying so hard to make it a Dave vs Trans thing. His whole last special was a plea to squash the beef and actually open up communication. Y’all responded with trying to cancel him and prove his point. If you can’t eloquently come defend yourselves and express your discernment without the internet or performative protesting then your movement is doomed. That’s all he’s been saying. He even said it doesn’t just go for the trans community. He named Black Lives Matter and me too movement in the very beginning of the special. He said he doesn’t have a problem with them but he’s still a comedian so he’s going to make jokes about any and every body. But then even ended it by saying he’s done making jokes about them. If they even watched it they must didn’t listen to understand just listened to argue since they saw Dave’s face.
@corneliusrawness
3 жыл бұрын
Exactly. I was searching and searching through the Fantano fanboys for a rational take like this one and thank God I found it. I have said this multiple times but trans friend killed themselves over this shit. People are paying attention. It also seems like Fantano is just picking apart what Dave is saying in a really nitpicking way that this doesn't even need. Very annoying but I guess that's that left leaning shit (I don't do that right left shit personally).
@somedude2384
2 жыл бұрын
I wished he said "BLT" community instead of LBGTQ+ cause thats funny :D
@colangelog09
3 жыл бұрын
He's saying that corporate interest prioritizes whether LGBTQ are generally offended, over his right to say his jokes freely, without people going at him FOR THEM BEING ANYTHING BUT JOKES. Not shutting him down. But favoring the narrative that there's a problem over the narrative that he's a comedian telling jokes, pointing things out. There are no official spokespeople for the whole of LGBTQ, but there is for sure people pushing the narrative and trying to influence the narrative to be that there is a problem with what he's saying, and that he is saying it. He is defending that he is expressing opinions as a part of his art of comedy, that's it. I support that. Anthony's political takes are so biased and cold, he's really one of those people that are so in the weeds, there's no hope for him seeing any alternative perspective. Which he lacks.
@TheJerbol
2 жыл бұрын
Can't believe people paid to listen to a filthy rich person talk about their victimhood
@Don-pn2mf
3 жыл бұрын
This video title is so ironic dude
@IsaacIsDead1
3 жыл бұрын
Thought I was the only one who noticed lmfao
@Revealingstorm.
3 жыл бұрын
He isn't really complaining, just pointing out Dave's flawed logic.
@MythicalSkull13
3 жыл бұрын
Not like he’s “complaining” for the sake of it, he’s handing out completely valid criticisms
@Don-pn2mf
2 жыл бұрын
@@Revealingstorm. it’s always the anime profile pictures with the strongest opinions
@DaFuqBoom
3 жыл бұрын
The thing about his "career" and "moving on" is that he can't. He was LITERALLY thrown away from his scheduled shows after the controversy, and I believe he has the right to tell how ridiculous the whole situation is, since he may be loosing his entire job based on pissing few hundred people off. Imagine if you got your channel suspended because you pissed people off with your reviews. And believe me, you do quite often piss people off. Would you move on, melon? :D Also, saying that his jokes may provoke more hatred against queer and trans people is like saying games are teaching kids violence.
@HobbesJnr
3 жыл бұрын
Cringe comment
@RD-cm7ym
3 жыл бұрын
People with bosses lose their jobs. Creators with no bosses but with 2.4 million Instagram followers should be able to figure out how to make money or else they don't deserve their platform.
@finkitsallover
3 жыл бұрын
"Do I feel like he has a deep seeded hatred to these people no" but previously says at the start about Dave probably putting his own hatred or opinions behind the jokes that were about trans people therefore inferring that Dave is transphobic Anthony you are allowed to have an opinion and not just spout both sides as your own while having contradictory statements
@ryuman757
3 жыл бұрын
Literally. Like reading only the article title and ignoring the article itself. People were laughing at Dave's slavery/racist jokes literally up until he starting picking at (not even trashing) the LGBTQ+ community. Obviously times are changing and those jokes wouldn't fly nowadays, but his show/past specials have still been flying for everyone, and nobody seems to be trying to cancel that. People need to focus their energy on those that actually mean them harm; not some dude just making off-handed jokes that literally splits the audience, depending on how personally they take it. Reminded me of watching those 2 people in the crowd with the obvious colored hair during "The Closer", how they were cheering everywhere else, and then were stone-faced whenever he talked about the LGBTQ+ community 🤣
@badbadgilead2552
2 жыл бұрын
he acknowledges there is bias while stating he doesnt think its conscious or deep seated - the statements don't necessarily contradict the way you think they do
@tomwilko7841
3 жыл бұрын
Fantano sniggering at chapelle is just plain wrong...if dave says it's about corporations it's about corporations wtf qualifies melon to say dave is disingenuous?? Someone is making a huge mistake...melon is really distancing himself from a huge part of his audience with his recent forays into uber wokeness politics
@wasabijones4571
3 жыл бұрын
facts. he should stick to music.
@donaldmonroe6823
3 жыл бұрын
This is a one sided nitpicking critique
@mikeyfightz
3 жыл бұрын
dave Chapelle is now the Eminem of comedy. his fans will die for him even if his material is corny and outdated. I'm not gonna talk about whether this special offended me or not because it really doesn't affect me and I wouldn't know until educated. my problem was, I didn't laugh because there was no new material and recycled jokes from the previous special. we had so many different serious topics that have happened since his last special and he still chooses to pick fights with a group of people where 1 percent of that said group hated him. all he did was make something out of nothing.
@bluepearl_22
3 жыл бұрын
That's also why I can't help but chuckle when I hear people say he's the GOAT of standup comedy. Pryor, Carlin and Eddie alone are still out of his league and imo even Bill Burr has had better material than him.
@wrequiem1727
3 жыл бұрын
@@bluepearl_22 I mean that's cool in all but nah. Chappelle is one of the objective goats in comedy and that Bure thing gave me a chuckle but yeah
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