JunkerQueen 100% feels like she was designed to be an off tank.
@meric2
Жыл бұрын
@House Mouse Main The way you phrased your comment makes me think you're the actual junkerqueen and he's personally offended you
@JimboJamboYT
Жыл бұрын
@House Mouse Main your first mistake is thinking roles = their title in overwatch, there are plenty supports and tanks that can outdps a large portion of dps characters. Junkerqueen falls flat here cause her toolset is designed around bleed and anti-heal but beyond that she achieves nothing. average dmg, no tankiness or ability to control the enemy positions. What else is there left to do if you cant really influence the flow of the game? The answer is do damage. She's a 6v6 meta tank and even then I dont think I'd pick her over something like a peel/flank roadhog tbh.
@RisqueBisquetz
Жыл бұрын
@House Mouse Main you sounds like someone completely new to OW lol Assigned role doesn't mean that's how you have to play the game. - Roadhog creates space by being THE damage dealer and fragger with hooks and bursts - Mei has relatively low dps but gets kills through crowd controls and controlling space. - Moira has very little utility as a Support but can deal consistent dps through orbs and unblockable beam of an ult. Junker Queen on release had a very similar role with Hog, being THE damage dealer and fragger of the frontline. But that role is all gone since she got the massive nerf, she's now an off-tank brawler at best.
@aceric1646
Жыл бұрын
@House Mouse Main It's funny that you mention Kiriko, bastion, and sombra because those three are useful in many situations and are not special use case. Kiriko is widely regarded already to be one of the best supports in the game rn, and is most definitely not a "very short time" hero. Bastion has extremely consistent dps, with his downfall really being his lack of mobility. Sombra is also extremely good as a dps cause her hack and her emp is some of the best counters to a lot of tanks due to the ability disruption and her tp makes her have great survivability. Genji is good if you know how to play him well due to his great backline dives. Torb is a pretty good close range and long range chip + his turret. Echo is the only one i would say you need high game knowledge cause her ult gains value from you being able to use most other heroes but even then her util itself is very good. Roadhog is a great damage dealer and has insane survivability with self heal, and his hook shoot melee combo for oneshots Mei like skeet says has great crowd control and space control Moira is also not a special use case hero because she has very good heals, just most people don't use it as much. Heros who actually ARE more affected by the situation are Widowmaker and Tracer. Widowmaker being not as effective in close range fights and tracer being useless in long range fights. Even then, you can still find some value using them. And I say more affected because ALL heroes are situational, that's why you are able to switch heroes midgame. I play widow on circuit royale for early picks than i switch to cassidy cause he's easier to find consistent value with after those initial picks. Why? because at the start of the game you start with a long sightline that widow dominates on. you should never need "permission" from your teammates for wanting to play the game how you want. This isn't pro play, this is ladder. There are no stakes other than rank.
@aceric1646
Жыл бұрын
@House Mouse Main where your proof for that. I searched it up myself and it said that blizzard specifically said that playing an unpopular character is not enough to get you banned. And even if it was true, if that was the case, overarching is a bad game then if you get banned for playing the game with a character you want to, even though they offer it as an option. If you need permission from your team to play a game how you want, I'm sorry but that's just a bad game
@kurokubushi
2 жыл бұрын
First Step: Being able to log in to play the game.
@kiddo4921
2 жыл бұрын
Its really easy to log in now 😊
@Sentraks
2 жыл бұрын
I’m on Xbox.. still haven’t been able to see the main menu
@WinstonOfDojima
2 жыл бұрын
Second Step: Actually getting your progress instead of being treated like a new account!
@geraldthejudgementaldinosa6091
2 жыл бұрын
Third step: Hope you don’t get dc every second game
@Chicken_Pro_76
2 жыл бұрын
@@kiddo4921 I can’t change my battle net region
@chezchetterz5226
Жыл бұрын
Doomfists charge punch can also cancel ultimates like Moira's and Reapers, so that's some very very slight extra utility. Which is kinda helpful since moira's are pretty common
@adobo1027
Жыл бұрын
Just had this happen to me in a game and i didn’t know doom could do that. I was confused for a sec lmao
@technounionrepresentative4274
Жыл бұрын
I remember killing a Reaper mid ultimate, it was really satisfying because the guy was bring a prick all match
@juliusomicua3450
Жыл бұрын
Yes, but there is also hog... who can do the same....but better
@chiyobasama
Жыл бұрын
Flats don't know how to play doomfist.
@gavinwalker6726
Жыл бұрын
He can also candles Hogs heals and Mercys revive
@timberland3220
Жыл бұрын
I love Orisa’s new kit, but her ultimate needs some serious work, maybe even get a completely new one. I always thought it would be cool if her ultimate placed fortify on every player on your team, that fits with her brawl play-style and would signal to your team to initiate a team fight.
@snakevenoum6395
Жыл бұрын
too op, fortify's damage mitigation/cancellation is the same as nanoboost without the damage boost
@peebs2593
Жыл бұрын
Lucio ult but better
@unfututufu1
Жыл бұрын
as and OW1 agressive orisa main I find this ult ok...not great...not broken..not as useless as the bongo ...just...a little buff plz... the strategy for me is basically to wait for the end/mid of the fight charge it over 130% and kill everyone with less than 50% life
@vivelespatat2670
Жыл бұрын
A 40% damage resistance and immunity to headshots and ccs for your whole team seems incredibly busted
@ryanhelm1813
Жыл бұрын
It goes thru shields now
@KarQ
2 жыл бұрын
SCRIPTED GUIDE CONTENT LETS GO
@ancientegypti
Жыл бұрын
tommorow
@RobinDabank-ls8wp
10 ай бұрын
Yo actually KarQ? Hewwo :)
@docbuckets5923
2 жыл бұрын
Rein feels crazy good right now at low levels, especially when paired with kiriko and/or lucio
@corbentimms9443
2 жыл бұрын
I'm a rein main in gold, but going against other reins without a second tank, with a Lucio and kiriko at my back, feels great
@borutoburrito6547
2 жыл бұрын
Rein is basically always good in low ranks because players in those ranks usually just brawl it out on point regardless of team comp. Rein just kinda thrives when no team has any proper strategies in play.
@docbuckets5923
2 жыл бұрын
@@corbentimms9443 the amt of swings you can get in with a kiriko ult is nuts
@VB-92
2 жыл бұрын
I played Rein. Can confirm that no speed boosts (Had Ana/Mercy) feels like trying to chase down a bunch of hyperactive cats.
@lukassorowka2672
2 жыл бұрын
@@corbentimms9443 trust me it won't feel great going against me
@WhatEnigma
2 жыл бұрын
“Its not about winning, its about psychological warfare” - Flats quote of 2022😂😂
@414PRisky
2 жыл бұрын
Facts I main sombra and when u get into the tanks heads they literally start doing lil wierd stuff like swinging when I’m no where near around
@lauens
2 жыл бұрын
time stamp?
@414PRisky
2 жыл бұрын
@@lauens 8:32
@henryallsebrook
2 жыл бұрын
When you solo shatter Rein to flex you got ult first
@Siks7Ate9
2 жыл бұрын
@@414PRisky I mean if you play rein you can drop shield and just stand there or you can swing around. There is no point in not swinging the hammer when your not shielding.
@AlphalanceVO
Жыл бұрын
Big thing I didn't hear you mention about Junkerqueen's kit is you don't need to pull the knife back immediately. If you leave it in the target it will continue to do bleed damage and you will regenerate while that happens. It's a great way to help her last in fights or finish off fleeing targets while you reload.
@TheUltimoSniper
Жыл бұрын
The bleed from her axe also heals her. That alone gives her at least half a star's worth more in both tankiness and damage, as it does 90 on-hit and 40 over 3 seconds. Still easy to heal over, but a follow-up headshot or two will pick off most heroes anyways.
@ClaraBennett
Жыл бұрын
@@TheUltimoSniper If you get the follow-up headshot for the kill after the axe, the healing stops. I’ve been playing her in TDM to get the arcade challenge and practice her kit, and there I can actually do a ton of self-heal because the enemy team always has at least 2 tanks. In role queue though, it seems a lot harder to get the self heals, because your wound target is either very squishy and dies before you get the full bleed duration, or you got too greedy for that juicy 3-man axe swing and die for it. In my (limited) experience, the bleed healing is really only noticeable on a big Rampage. I think the nerf to commanding shout’s cooldown probably made the bleed heals less effective too, since the overhealth can serve to buy time for the healing to work.
@ethandonnelly1973
Жыл бұрын
Just so you know, leaving the knife in doesn't cause any more bleed than if you immediately rip it out, I tested this yesterday.
@ethandonnelly1973
Жыл бұрын
Another thing about her knife pull is that you can perform it while you're in other animations. For example if you toss the knife at someone and it hits, you can then hit her scythe and THEN pull back the knife and the knife pull will drag them into the scythe swing. On a 200HP target this can almost one shot and there isn't really anything they can do about it
@Jacquelinsane
Жыл бұрын
Also the fact that his rating her damage at one when she’s literally one of the highest damage tanks. Not to mention he completely lied about how to kill at 200 health
@InsaneAlec
Жыл бұрын
I didn't play OW1, but playing Orissa in OW2 is what has kept me playing. I didn't expect to have so much fun. Frequently when playing with my friends I'll just burst into laughter from getting a good spear kill, the spear feels so good to hit.
@Raptuure
Жыл бұрын
been playing Orissa in OW1, but not in OW2. However i can say the same thing about having fun but on Junkerqueen and getting knife kills
@panthekirb7561
Жыл бұрын
Autism be like
@Raptuure
Жыл бұрын
@@panthekirb7561 whatever man
@panthekirb7561
Жыл бұрын
@@Raptuure Not talking to you
@Raptuure
Жыл бұрын
@@panthekirb7561 whatever man
@Tomas_2555
2 жыл бұрын
I think Orisa is absolutely amazing and her improvements have helped so much with making her a good tank. The new abilities are really good at tanking damage and defending teammates
@greg77389
Жыл бұрын
She's broken. She can now 3v1.
@Sh1ftane
Жыл бұрын
True, and her kit is pretty easy to get a hold of as a newbie. She can go a full game with only two or three deaths as long as the support is good.
@sthepaniec.7864
Жыл бұрын
I dread playing against an orisa now 😭
@livvyette
Жыл бұрын
orisas everywhere 😭😭
@valarmorghulis6547
Жыл бұрын
I want my reinhardt back orisa fucking broken no fear to rush a fckin rein
It genuinely breaks my heart to see Orisa so low. The entire point of Tank is to survive so you can maintain point, while keeping others off point, and in that she does phenomenally. It doesn't make her selfish because she isn't sharing her shield. She can tank damage and keep people at a range very well. Yes, her Ult BLOWS, but the rest of her kit is literally peak Tank.
@MaverickOW2
Жыл бұрын
@@dadecalder7796 bronze 5 take
@kine1401
Жыл бұрын
@@MaverickOW2 plat take
@Soundwave1900
Жыл бұрын
We just gotta keep in mind hog is a 4 in disguise and is only this low because he doesn't have any mobility and utility.
@WristTapeDrowzzy
Жыл бұрын
@@Soundwave1900 Hot Take: when kiriko comes to comp hogs gonna be high B low A
@olympichero4092
Жыл бұрын
Man, the Kiriko at 42:20 performed really good, like totally carried the fight for the enemy team. I wanna be able to do that too, very well done video btw Flats, more of this please.
@badrat4448
Жыл бұрын
that's eskay, she's a prolific lucio player
@maxzett
Жыл бұрын
Honestly DVA is still one of the best tanks IMO. I genuinely love her. About 70% of damage usually comes from projectiles. Being bale to block that is really really nice. Plus she is fast and can escape because of her booster packs. Love her tbh
@danieladomeit9696
Жыл бұрын
All that plus styling on fools with baby DVa is pretty tasty
@MainelyPressureWashing
Жыл бұрын
Dva players are legit the most annoying players ever. Her ult is absolutely busted and shouldn't ever earn play of the game
@thebigsucc030
Жыл бұрын
@@MainelyPressureWashing do you say the same for junk tire?
@fae_sibling4770
Жыл бұрын
@@MainelyPressureWashingblock los and stop crying, its really not that hard
@edwardking9359
9 ай бұрын
@AntZ3z1 her ultimate is incredibly easy to counter. Any shield can do it, and breaking line of sight is also real easy most of the time.
@handsoaphandsoap
Жыл бұрын
One thing you missed that adds to the power of Self Destruct is just how effective it is as a zoning tool. Even if you don’t get kills with bombs, it will at least force the enemies to react to it and potentially go out of a good position.
@miloburrows4226
2 жыл бұрын
As someone who never played Overwatch before today, I fell in love with D. Va's mobility mixed with firepower as soon as I unlocked her. I'm willing to maybe give Winston a go, but for now, she's my main tank for sure. Getting the play of the game for the first time (with her) was so exciting. I've been able to go on SO many Killing sprees, and I haven't even played 30 matches yet!
@Xdot15
2 жыл бұрын
Just wait until you unlock hamtaro the GOAT 😮
@miceatah9359
2 жыл бұрын
Yeah same
@Caliber918
2 жыл бұрын
As someone who's been playing almost since launch, I'm happy to see new players taking an interest, but It's kinda weird for me to hear about unlocking heroes lol
@IgorJCorrea
2 жыл бұрын
I'm seriously curious on new players experience, do you think the game is overwhelming? Did unlocking characters help you learning it bit by bit?
@l1l--lppl
2 жыл бұрын
@@Xdot15 nah sigma is the GOAT
@ssccaappeeggooaatt
2 жыл бұрын
I think an important detail about zarya (that ive noticed as a support player) is not knowing for sure when she has a personal bubble available. if she used personal in OW1, it was a reliable callout. Now it takes a lot more effort to be sure of the cooldown status
@TheCuteSpacePyro
2 жыл бұрын
Yeah I was a zarya main in OW1 and I’ve caught myself getting mixed up with my cooldown with my bubble, it is a slight learning curve
@MrJuicy2
Жыл бұрын
Orisas javelin is not only a push back stun, it cancels a lot of abilities and ults which is rly good. I mean u can block the rein charging in or canceling stigmas ult and other stuff
@theoreminegaming
Жыл бұрын
For sigma's movement potential, his ult lets him reposition as well as recover if knocked into an environmental hazard, and you can use rock as a pseudo-rocketjump.
@drbonko4114
Жыл бұрын
something else about Zarya i like to do, right clicking in front of a Rein that's chasing you down as you back away. it keeps him from getting in hammer range and allows you to get out safely sometimes.
@burezu9190
2 жыл бұрын
I don't even know why but for the first day Junkerqueen felt so dominant in all the games. When you spell out her abilities like in the video she seems lackluster, but whenever I played against her she just seemed unkillable and did much damage, the same goes with Roadhog. Nearly every game was against a JQ or a Roadhog and everytime both supports just stuck to them and we couldn't kill them if they didn't fuck up or the whole team was focusing on them.
@deadbones0361
Жыл бұрын
I agree as well when he described her I was shocked cuz even other creators said other wise
@williamturner7131
Жыл бұрын
Gotta remember that all her DoT bleeds give her healing back. Everytime she hits you with her knife [direct, or it passing through you as it returns, her axe attack, her melee, her ult], she's healing. When she jumps into your team and is bleeding everyone, even if her damage is lackluster, the lack of focus can easily let her sustain herself.
@danielcorey377
Жыл бұрын
Hog and JQ both live and literally die by the focus fire. If you don't focus them down/counter them they are a damn menace.
@kiko92565
Жыл бұрын
Because she is a tank with a healer hitbox
@stevenluoma1268
Жыл бұрын
Because some of this stuff isnt true. Her shout lasts 5 seconds on live
@HeatherSNS
2 жыл бұрын
I'm not normally a tank player so trying it out in ow2 has been a lot to take in, and all of my knowledge of the characters is outdated. This helps a ton! I'd be interested to see more vids like this too!
@Statsmat
2 жыл бұрын
This knowledge is pretty terrible. I didn’t watch most of it but he kept saying how great ball is even though he’s probably the worst tank rn
@gregnog8119
2 жыл бұрын
@@Statsmat you not played junkerqueen? Ball is fantastic but you need to be VERY good at his mechanics, but junkerqueen needs you to be good and is made useless because roadhog exists
@Statsmat
2 жыл бұрын
@@gregnog8119 my mechanics are pretty good I have been consistently like 3900 on ball for a while but idk this is the weakest hes been since launch imo
@D-Z321
2 жыл бұрын
You’re probably the DPS widow we all dread as our teammate 😂
@davidnewhart2533
Жыл бұрын
@@Statsmat Ball is not bad. Ball was always good in 5v5.
@TarlukLegion
Жыл бұрын
I would love to see this be done for Support and DPS as well! This makes me want to try out Orisa more when I never gave them any thought before
@yarrowwitch4225
Жыл бұрын
Thats what I was looking for! I'm not much of a tank player. I love support (I'm an anxiety ridden person, using my talents to play better as a healer lol) Shame there isn't a video out.
@DaxVT
Жыл бұрын
The DPS video will be 4 hours long hahaha
@jacobnorris8256
Жыл бұрын
This video is on tanks because Flats is a top-level tank player. He probably does not have the understanding and experience required to talk nearly as accurately about healers and damage.
@funnynamelol3156
Жыл бұрын
You’re gonna have to look at someone else for that unfortunately since Flats a Tank player mostly.
@TarlukLegion
Жыл бұрын
@@funnynamelol3156 he said at the end of the video that he's considering doing videos on those two roles if there's enough demand
@zuurek6907
Жыл бұрын
One thing I noticed with orisa is that you can cancel your javelin spin instantly with a javelin throw, and if you are already pushing an enemy forward with the spin, the javelin always hits and seems to carry them backwards even further than normal, making the wall pin combo easier to land
@anthonyvallejo2657
Жыл бұрын
Do you find her useful? I used to main her but I don’t like how they removed the shield
@zuurek6907
Жыл бұрын
@@anthonyvallejo2657 so far she's probably been my best character, she's really good at picking off single targets and helping the team push forward
@antonioscendrategattico2302
Жыл бұрын
Yep, it's insane how useful that thing is with such a short cooldown. It's like a slightly weaker but much more constant Sigma rock.
@enderking6904
Жыл бұрын
Honestly, I don’t know how I feel about a lot of the tanks basically becoming DPS with a bigger health bar.
@mylescranmer7360
2 жыл бұрын
As someone who didn't play any of the betas and who didn't know all the tank changes this was very helpful, thank you Flats
@brendantarp
2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the content Flats! Different from your usual free-form vids but I like how much organized info you’re able to give in these scripted type videos
@halfa_sleep
2 жыл бұрын
this would be great if done every season, it doesn't have to be as elaborate but seeing the star categories really helps and super insightful!
@braxxtothemaxx2418
Жыл бұрын
This was so informative. Since starting overwatch 2, there have been so many tanks like Rein, Orisa, doom, and sigma that I just couldn't grasp, forcing me to stick to the tanks that I already knew and understood. This video helped me so much in filling out my overall knowledge of the ow2 tank roster and I can't wait to use this knowledge to improve my counter picking capabilities and overall gameplay performance.
@deniboy1806
Жыл бұрын
This whole video was so well written and conducted, I couldn't help myself to just keep watching the entire thing on one go. I had plans to clean the house but it all went down the drain with your video. Keep up the quality content, Flats. Stay awesome.
@socialwizard
2 жыл бұрын
as a doomfist main, my sadness is immeasurable, and there isn't even an uppercut left to raise my spirits...
@Miniom56785
Жыл бұрын
I feel you brother
@MrCholoPants3415
Жыл бұрын
It makes me extremely happy to see cringelord doomfist mains in shambles. I guess go play junkrat or roadhog if you want some braindead 1-hit kill heroes? Or learn how to aim and play Widow. Idk.
@ADoomain
Жыл бұрын
@@MrCholoPants3415 when ur only definition of skill is aim Avg hitscan main, play the game like its CoD because its easy
@KsanUwU
Жыл бұрын
@@MrCholoPants3415 ah yes, widow. the hardest hero in the entire game. unless youve played her for more than an hour. then its just a free headshot gallery since theres a good chance you and your enemies dont have any shields!
@MrCholoPants3415
Жыл бұрын
@@ADoomain I'm a tank and ana main, I don't like hitscan. The issue with doomfist is that he was a broken one-shot hero who could literally freely kill supports with his ult, fly from the sky out of sight by abusing easy to learn "techs" and one shot every hero in the game or 3 shot tanks in the span of 2 seconds. It was unfun to play against for anyone who wasn't a little bitch Doom main. Cope. Doom is a lame tank now and you'll NEVER get the old Doomfist back. SEETHE.
@BAIARJ
2 жыл бұрын
As a Ball main I'm having so much fun in OW2. It's a great time to roll
@oldmanwolffe5248
Жыл бұрын
Hampter good
@HamsterFactz
Жыл бұрын
Hamsters are fast runners for their size. They can run up to 4 miles per hour.
@dth99times
2 жыл бұрын
Maybe doomfist could have super armour on his punch, immune to CC until taking a certain amount of damage during punch. It would bring back some of that fighting game inspiration
@damiencardona2474
2 жыл бұрын
Oo like a dp
@madmaxv161
2 жыл бұрын
There is no cc in this game anymore lol
@RoaringTide
2 жыл бұрын
@@madmaxv161 There is though. They only really removed Mei's freeze and Cassidy's flash. What other hard CC did they remove? Ana has sleep and they even gave Junk his old trap back. Most of the tanks have CC, and pretty much everyone who had "soft CC"" still has it (Pharah concussive, Lucio boop, Ashe coach gun, etc.).
@thelitmango6333
2 жыл бұрын
@@madmaxv161 yeah idk what you're talking about I get ccd all the time. Cc is the most boring aspect of a game anyway. It's horrible game design but it's needed.
@davidrich27
2 жыл бұрын
What if doom's punch functioned a bit like flux, where it scaled based on the healthpool of the enemy? That might give him some of his damage back without making him oppressive vs. squishies.
@dragonslayerornstein387
4 ай бұрын
This doesn't feel like a guide, more like a review. Still good vid!
@jesseortiz45
Жыл бұрын
I actually think junker Queen is dope i get good damage and literally beat a roadhog with her the other day
@Fareeha
2 жыл бұрын
This is so comprehensive!! Great vid! The current hog state hurts my soul too and I'm glad I'm not alone in thinking that
@nofuneral6754
2 жыл бұрын
I love your recent scripted content. It's so good. It's all your typical on-the-fly good stuff condensed into a really clear and fun package. I know how much work this stuff is, so massive respect for taking the time to do it.
@aaronolson6736
2 жыл бұрын
Overall Rankings: Queen 2.5, Doom 2.25, Rein 3.3, Zarya, 3.25, Orisa 2.5, Sigma 3.75, Ball 3.2, Winston 3.75, Dva 4.5, Hog 3 I'd say Doom should gain shields after Power Block ends (not finishes) as with how The Best Defense works, he needs to be able to deal ability damage to sustain himself and that can be hard when his own ability damage is reliant him taking damage directly, leaving him vulnerable the entire time he tries to deal damage. As for Zarya, I really think the bubbles needed to be handled a different way, at the least having the charges be separate cds.
@Zathren
2 жыл бұрын
I would try giving her a third bubble and increasing the cooldown time from 8 to 10
@turbiini1328
Жыл бұрын
One tip for Orisa's ult is to either combo it with other ults such as death blossom. If there aren't any ults available to combo it with DON'T panic press the use button, if you keep charging her ult all the way to the end people often don't expect it and walk into the radius while you're still charging the ult. It's also a great way to create some space.
@NotRealPhil
Жыл бұрын
“Orisa’s ult doesn’t do much” These are the words of a man that has never been Stimmed and pocketed prior to pulling off a pentakill
@Jacquelinsane
Жыл бұрын
The man just seems clueless to be honest.
@EviLShepherd
2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for this video. After about a week of debating before OW 2 came out, I decided to become a tank player. I just can't ever seem to get shit done with dps or support. But in most cases, I can switch around tanks to get the W. Doesn't always work, but so far in OW 2, NONE of my tank games have been steam rolls. Every loss has been extremely close
@NLambo88
2 жыл бұрын
The satisfaction from saving your entire team with kiriko is good enough for me to pick her even though I can’t hit shit with my knives
@redfox8078
Жыл бұрын
Ummm acshually, its nwot a knwife. Its a kunai, from the amwime Naruto 🤓
@marinacroy1338
2 жыл бұрын
This was fantastic! I've never been a big competitive person, but In OW2 Im planning to be more into it because i like the comp changes. This video was really helpful for me because I had no idea what the current meta is. I especially like the part about good tank picks to counter the meta, I feel like that will probably be the most useful lol.
@chrisbourquin5771
4 ай бұрын
Flats: Dva is very tanky Also Flats: *proceeds to show a clip of Dva getting destroyed*
@hydroviperking
Жыл бұрын
Flats being chill is so cursed it’s like watching someone’s videos from like 7 years ago.
@brendencellan6576
2 жыл бұрын
Flats, I loved this style of content! You’ve inspired me to give streaming OW tank a try! Please consider doing this for support and damage! Keep it up bro bro!!
@evanwillett1635
2 жыл бұрын
This tank one was hard enough as he said at the end, and he mains tank. He COULD do DPS or support, but he mains tank, so it would not be as refined Also, there are A LOT of DPS heroes. BUT, Yes I would LOVE to see that.
@Elven_Lord
2 жыл бұрын
I would really love to see you breakdown the other roles, even though they're not your roles, I know, you're the Tank Man. I just really like your scripting and tone, and your breakdown method is really balanced and sensible. Maybe collab with friends who role queue the others?
@jer_gaming_
Жыл бұрын
i would absolutely love to hear more guides/strategies from you on how to play the tanks more. Even just the Shield usage tip with rein made me feel like im getting a lot more significant use with him in matches; would love anything else you could give us
@yomommabanger
Жыл бұрын
I absolutely love orb of discording a juicy Reinhardt or Roadhog and jus dinking their heads as Zen from height or distance, the panic as they realize they’re squishy to my orbs is amazing
@jimger6144
7 ай бұрын
Man i love this video. was just watching it to remember the fun times as a tank. it hurts to see how badly this video aged with season 9. RIP Reinhardt and Hog
@adbeshonar
2 жыл бұрын
Good video, I'd suggest going less from a script in the future though. You can tell that your reading down a list, and it's different from your normal chill and authentic flow. We all enjoy hearing your rables, that why we watch you review dice sandwiches and houses on the Market. I'd say just use a few jey prompts to stay on track but getting your authentic and logical reasoning is what I have always enjoyed. Keep it up.
@MT_FIN
2 жыл бұрын
i agree
@McLovin-Chan
2 жыл бұрын
I don’t see a problem with it
@mavery1046
2 жыл бұрын
I wonder if buffing JKs passive as well as damage would make her more viable as a tank and as a damage dealer
@caltroop848
2 жыл бұрын
In fights it doesn't even feel like the passive does anything at all
@Siks7Ate9
2 жыл бұрын
You can still do a shitload of damage against stuff like monkey and ball it's not bad tbh. I would maybe up the amount of times you can swing the axe so she can do more when she gets close.
@lukassorowka2672
2 жыл бұрын
I just read JFK
@astupidlylongnamethatstoolong
2 жыл бұрын
@@caltroop848 It does a lot of trash damage, I had the dagger fly through like 4 people and an axe swing through 2 people and got quite a bit of dmg dealt, but they're all trash damage a single moira left click can handle.
@ClaraBennett
Жыл бұрын
After trying really hard to figure out how to use Orisa’s ult to actually get kills, I’ve decided that it’s best used as a really long-cooldown Halt or as minor area denial + second Fortify to buy time for getting other cooldowns back. It is nice to still have an option to pull enemies down from high ground or into a dragonstrike or something.
@astupidlylongnamethatstoolong
Жыл бұрын
If you feel a bit suicidal, illios well and her ult can be rather fun
@RhawketS
Жыл бұрын
I'm an Orisa player, and Orisa without the shield is amazing! You can use the javelin spin to knock players back, block damage, or pushing players off the map, catch up to a player who is low hp and pick them off, or charging a player into a corner and singling them off so you can pick them off. the javelin throw is amazing as well, you can use it to pick off low hp opponents and healers and becomes a huge game changer if you have amazing aim for headshots. And if you get out of position and low hp, you can use your self shield to survive for a little longer till a healer helps you, and you can use javelin spin to block shots, and javelin through to push enemies off you. It's been so fun and surprisingly I do a lot of damage, and the ultimate Is useless if you don't use it before 100%, the javelin immediately pulls in enemies, but at 50% enemies can start to move away and get outside the damage circle.
@hisakini
Жыл бұрын
Would love to see a faster axe swing on Carnage, a 12-second CD on JQ's Shout, and a bit more damage. Ideally, though, I'd also like to see her bleeds double as a necrotic (healing-blocking/absorbing, up to an amount equal to remaining damage to be dealt), and for that to replace the hard anti-heal on Rampage, with Rampage's charge cost being decreased.
@Rin-zn9bo
Жыл бұрын
Some love for the queen would be nice, she just doesn't have a enough. She's still playable for someone that really knows her, but she's flat out weakest in all measures. I have been testing her and tweaking her in custom to see what she would need, here's my thoughts. Her shotgun is quite healthy, infact as far as damage output goes, she's decent. 2.4-8 per pellet. However, as far as min-max range goes, her kit doesn't not allow her to be effective unless utilizing corners and letting the fight come to her. Which is the intention behind her knife toss, because she severely struggles at 20+ meter fights, she can't be an effective tank for her teammates, nor is she able to if it's anything but close quarters. She could have a reduced fire rate for the exchange of higher damage at max range, 2.4 > 3.2 making it 10 pellets = 32 damage. Otherwise, every shot she takes at max range is just support ult charge with no realistic chance of killing anything with a support nearby. As for her Jagged blade, I think it's great and balanced. Tossing your knife deals 80 + bleed, then shooting the airborn target is usually 60~ ish, which combined with a quick melee usually does the trick. It takes practice but can kill low health targets effectively. And, if it still wasn't enough a final charged melee will do the trick. Conclusion, Jagged blade is in a good spot. Commanding shout needs a revamp or an addition, it's essentially her whole gameplay. She can play 1/4 of the match, it's up for 5 seconds and on cooldown for 15 seconds. My suggestion, is add an additional mechanic during commanding shouts downtime. For the 5 seconds let her duplicate/store up bleed healing which takes in effect after the bonus health runs out as over time healing, and is evenly distributed to her and nearby teammates. This will incentivize her to brawl more and utilize her whole kit, rather than her shotgun. Carnage should be a 2 in 1 ability, with the option to click it once for the fully charged normal ability. And, option 2 double tap the ability to half cast time (0.5sec instead of 1sec) and make it two weaker sweeps, this is intended to allow her to crowd brawl better, and apply more wounds. Rampage is an interesting yet appealing ability. I think it's actually strong as is. But, if I could tweak it, I actually would like to see her charge time be significantly reduced to the point of her being able to cast it 3 times as much, and nerf the ability as a whole as well, the intention being to just create more fluid gameplay for her. If she is gonna be a corner hugging tank then this would make it feel more at home. It goes without saying, I am not suggesting all these changes at once, but rather how I feel about her kit and what I would like to see for each part of it.
@GoatOfWar
2 жыл бұрын
Something you forgot to mention that makes ball even MORE tanky is the fact that he conceals his critbox.
@charKT-7461
Жыл бұрын
Widows fear him
@jrvinwav
Жыл бұрын
give Junker Queen a 5% damage reduction on top of self healing for each enemy wounded and I think survivability will be boosted a lot and would actually be worth E'ing multiple targets and knifing the ground to get multiple wounds
@MistletoeFortune
2 жыл бұрын
This was a brilliant video, and everything I needed to know as a Tank main. I hope you don't feel forced to do another, unless you want to! If so; this was great!
@kobethomas8391
Жыл бұрын
Somehow you managed to grab my attention for this video, it didn’t feel like 46 minutes passed. Keep up the good work my mans!
@Gibbypastrami
Жыл бұрын
PLEASE MAKE AN UPDATED ONE honestly- I’d love for a series where you cover 1-3 characters, and you put the month in the title, so if a significant change happens, you can make a new one that’s easy to find, maybe make a playlist too
@mikefieldsne
2 жыл бұрын
I loved this video! Great work on scripting and editing. Love the excitement and love of the game. I'd love to have a montage of Flats dying to Emongg Sigma-ulting Cassidys that pop High Noon.
@angiegamez8600
2 жыл бұрын
Gotta love how Kiriko has to be brought up so much, imo cleansing stuns is overkill.
@Siks7Ate9
2 жыл бұрын
Yes and no, if they change it then your only cleansing like ana nade and Cass nade. If they want to change it to specifically not counter all the stuns then imo it shouldn't cleanse stuns or from ultimates like shatter or orisa ult that pulls you in. Yes you can make it that they are shortly invulnerable but then dont make it so they stand up.
@typervader
2 жыл бұрын
He foucses too much in kirko is the issue, sure its strong but littrely its his entire foucs and its kinda annyoing
@LockeNarshe
Жыл бұрын
@@typervader I mean, people are going to focus on a character who is hyper-overpowered in everything she's supposed to be able to do. She has great healing, cleanses, tons of mobility, a broken team ultimate for support and insane crit damage on her kunai headshots that's not much different to aim than a Zenyatta ball. No shit people are going to keep talking about what she brings, she's the best support carry OW has ever had and is going to be all over the scene at all levels. Not planning for her interactions would be incredibly stupid.
@itsmechoppy
2 жыл бұрын
I hope you do a video like this for supports and damage. It was really enjoyable. Love your content.
@DrB1900
Жыл бұрын
Fun to watch. As a dVa main, it's nice to see her get some love.
@MsLuckoftheDraw
2 жыл бұрын
Not contesting the four stars for Sigma’s fun, but I will say my love of playing Sigma literally carried me through some of the shittiest ow1 times and always brought me back, even after swearing the game off for good. Sigma has such a thematic kit, powerful voice lines, cool lore. The details they put into his audio design is next level.
@waduhek5994
2 жыл бұрын
Fr Same reason I'll always be a sig main. His whole character is just designed so well. His rock buff has been great to use too
@christianfreed3352
Жыл бұрын
Rein just needs a self commanding shout that doesn't boost his teammates to give him the health and speed to get to someone. Or a passive of hammer momentum where swinging makes you faster since, you know, "rocket hammer"
@spookysushi4079
Жыл бұрын
So...... junker queen shout
@jesseortiz45
Жыл бұрын
Exactly.. But junker queen got that from torb only diff is hers goes to the full team or whoever is near im sure... speed and health boost for how ever long....torb just boost hisself no one else
@christianfreed3352
Жыл бұрын
@@jesseortiz45 yeah I guess it would be more like torb just minus the firerate increase
@mikusiae
Жыл бұрын
can we appreciate the smooth transition at 6:50 even though it's just background footage real quick
@vjiffy8598
Жыл бұрын
do more videos like this, your voice is PERFECT for watching on the 2nd monitor while playing other games/working
@nicolasesteban635
2 жыл бұрын
If only i could use these tips right now lol
@guitarslayer7751
2 жыл бұрын
Such a helpful video flats!! Very informative for my friends who never played ow before :)
@clubbedpenguin.
Жыл бұрын
19:32 You gave Zarya 4 stars for her ultimate, but then it says 2 stars here. This also affected her overall score, dropping it from 3.7 to 3.3
@istoyobike9349
Жыл бұрын
I think tank is much more fun now that the “ main tank experience” of being permanently stunned and melted is more or less gone, its nice to be able to actually play the game like it was intended, not choosing between an fps and a 3d first person chess match. Winston is so much stronger and more user friendly now. I think his new one shot combo has a lot of potential and his ultimate is just as fun as ever. Great video flats, as a somewhat high level player, i still watched the entire thing because it was entertaining. Ive always enjoyed your content but this video is an absolute masterpiece. Good luck!
@istoyobike9349
Жыл бұрын
Edit: not choosing between an fps and a 3d first person chess match, but by doing both at the same time.*
@StilllFly
Жыл бұрын
About Doomfist, Junkrat's trap is a big problem/counter for him too. He can't do nothing except put his guard up and prey to survive. And what's bad about him that I'd like to add(in teammate's perspective) is that when he's using Ult during a teamfight, there's no one to tank for the remaining team like one time I play as Kiriko and tp to heal/help him and then he was using ult, left me alone to die lol For Queen, I'm 100% agree with you, she's soo fun to play but is also very fragile. Hope she gets more survivability.
@SailorYen89
Жыл бұрын
I love JQ so much, genuinely a blast to play. Really hope she gets some buffs soon.
@marceloasensiofilho3833
Жыл бұрын
Junkerqueen buffed by a extra second of shout duration and a second less of cooldown would balance this ability and not make her as OP as she was during the summer showdown
@YojimboJames
Жыл бұрын
“She’s probably a small buff away from being top tier” -Things that aged well
@immenseyeet2236
2 жыл бұрын
I can’t wait to use this WHEN I EVENTUALLY GET INTO THE GAME
@Sandwich_BC
Жыл бұрын
Bro built like a tank
@Thatsweat
Жыл бұрын
💀
@abruptf1vsc0
Жыл бұрын
I appreciate the Bramble Blast (Stickerbrush Symphony) music for Winston. I see what you did there Flats, and I appreciate it.
@menmauzumaki007
Жыл бұрын
How to play Doomfist: You give up the keyboard and let ZBRA play Doomfist for you
@alexthelavamonster8747
Жыл бұрын
It’s funny cause Flats got what he wanted lmfao. Roadhog is ASS now thanks to the hook-shoot one shot nerf. Now he’s downright terrible to play as. This didn’t age well.
@edving6784
Жыл бұрын
frrr I didn't understand what he was talking about. Hog was NOT busted pre nerf....
@judahmagno2868
Жыл бұрын
I'm a tank and doom main, but i've had to stop main-ing doom for a while to rank up in tank, because he was just so horrible. I'd deal a crap ton of damage and get barely any kills, getting called "Tank diff." I'm kinda glad they've buffed him now, but ranking up is still kinda hard with him.
@homiewithnochromies1179
Жыл бұрын
It’s insane how you gave punching bag and orisa 5 stars for fun and not wrecking ball
@malty8766
Жыл бұрын
Man’s a tank himself
@nexiibtw2569
Жыл бұрын
Nah bros a tank himself 💀💀
@ChasesNews
3 ай бұрын
Crazy comment also you’re prob ass at the game
@stahliboi6249
Жыл бұрын
Road hog vs orisa is a lot of fun. If she ults, you pop yours and melt her before she can charge it. Or just ulting orisa and she fortifies and stops getting knocked back and you move closer and she melts
@estivee
Жыл бұрын
Man, I'm such a D'Va one trick, that sometimes picks Rein to switch things up. She's AMAZING in this game, so much fun! I need to learn to play better as some of the other tanks though...
@rufusekstrom2019
Жыл бұрын
Bro is a tank himself💀
@wolfofwill3278
Жыл бұрын
A note to Orisa. The ultimate can be amazing, If you have good teammates. I was playing Orisa, had a pocket Ana cause he on call with me. Got Nano boost, raced into the whole enemy team, ulted to 300% roughly, got three on the slam, and finished the other two shortly after. It's not a great ult by itself, but a good one to combo for max damage.
@aturenolaow
7 ай бұрын
i love how flats tries to add emphasis on a word and he just shouts it
@jonathanangulo1235
2 ай бұрын
I love countering orisa ult and fortify with hogs ult! It's so satisfying to melt at close range since it doesn't push her
@ravengreen8739
Жыл бұрын
Never felt so guilty or happy to be a Hog main. Recently got my usual gaming group into overwatch all of them fresh. Hog has kept them alive and enjoying themselves in pubs.
@stefonrandle9107
Жыл бұрын
As an OW1 tank player, I love most of the tanks and feel fine using them, but a little more survivability or damage to her shotgun would be nice to Junker Queen
@vGlassykid
Жыл бұрын
I've just started to play the off tank version of Rein. Zarya, that is.
@darrinidontcare9526
Жыл бұрын
Now this looks like a guy I can trust about video game material
@JosueRodriguez-ls5wy
Жыл бұрын
Yeah I agree with your analysis of Doom, he got shafted so hard that he’s just a dps disguised as a tank
@jgralak13
Жыл бұрын
I never saw your channel before and my first thought when I saw you was, wow this dude has to know a lot about tanks, he even looks like one
@gavin570
Жыл бұрын
I love how flats in the enemy rien when emong was the ball and flats was gettin worked
@vulk4623
Жыл бұрын
The fact that road hog can stun you with his hook, one tap you, then fully heal with overshield is ridiculous
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