This was my first final fantasy as well as my first jrpg. And it's still one of my favorite ff's. Thank you for making this video and reviving all the good memories.
@igorsheludko
2 жыл бұрын
Same here. My first FF, and one of my favorite ones, along with XII and IX.
@DekkarJr
2 жыл бұрын
My first was FF4 for the SNES :) that's a good one :)
@chamwrld1592
Жыл бұрын
Also my first! my favorite as well
@ChristopherSylvie
Жыл бұрын
Same
@tripleaarcade
Жыл бұрын
Same! I know it has its problems, but I still love it
@lexnoil
3 жыл бұрын
My personal favorite Final Fantasy game!
@mothcub
3 жыл бұрын
good taste ;-)
@lexnoil
3 жыл бұрын
@@mothcub Why thank you!
@HolyClownFuckarus
Жыл бұрын
It’s alright and I def love 8, but it’s no 9 🪄
@lexnoil
Жыл бұрын
@@HolyClownFuckarus K
@HolyClownFuckarus
Жыл бұрын
@@lexnoil lmao ok 8 is my fave too!
@megatronbison
3 жыл бұрын
That awful prison break sequence where you said "imagine going the wrong way here and having not saved?" - that was me! I was of course, furious.
@Joel-kc5jk
Жыл бұрын
Us*
@timfleszewski8666
Жыл бұрын
Same, I feel your pain...
@Z3RO19
3 жыл бұрын
There's one big aspect of FF8's story that often gets ignored, or rather, overlooked, but it's so essential to the narrative that understanding it makes every outlandish fan theory obsolete. I'm talking about the role of fate in FF8. Even the opening theme of the game, Liberi Fatali, which translates to Children of Fate, refers to this. The unspoken storyline of FF8 is that Squall was destined to kill Ultimecia - not because of some prophecy, but because it had already happened and would happen again due to time compression allowing them to essentially time travel. Squall defeating Ultimecia in a distant future and then returning to the past to tell the tale had cemented the battle and its outcome as a constant in the timeline, and what is more, a well-known historical fact. The story of the evil, time traveling sorceress Ultimecia, who plunged the world into war, attempted to compress time and was slain by the brave SeeD. Ultimeica was known across generations as the evil time-traveling sorceress before she was even born, fate had quite literally condemned her to become the villain we see in the game. it's quite possible that Ultimecia wasn't even her real name, but after years and years of SeeD persecuting sorceresses in an attempt to prevent the fabled Ultimeica's rise to power, one sorceress ultimately snapped and said "You want Ultimecia? I will give you Ultimecia." So that's when time compression comes into play. It's a really bizarre idea on the surface, but considering that Ultimecia is fully aware of the fact that she's fated to be killed by SeeDs, and because she's afraid of that, perhaps in her eyes, the only way to escape her fate was to take control over time itself. Of course, ironically, her attempt to compress time is what would eventually give Squall the means as well as the motivation to go after her and kill her, thus fullfilling both of their destinies. Ultimecia refers to Squall as the "legendary SeeD", which may seem random at first, but once you understand that in Ultimecia's time, Squall is indeed just that, the legendary SeeD who defeated the most powerful sorceress, it makes perfect sense. What she means is, "so you are the legendary SeeD destined to kill me". Garden was established not to fight just any sorceress, but specifically Ultimecia. Why? Because Edea and Cid were the only two people who knew what was going to happen. They knew that the orphans they were taking care of were destined to face a powerful sorceress in the not-so-distant future. Edea gained that knowledge from Squall directly when they met during time compression. The orphans were indeed children of fate, and Garden was established to prepare them for the day they would have to save the world from the sorceress. That's basically all, and as I said above, understanding this part of the story really does take away the need to come up with some crazy fan theory in regard to Ultimecia. It's literally all there and it makes sense once you have the whole picture, the only problem is that it's buried so deep within the subtext, most people probably miss it.
@autobotstarscream765
3 жыл бұрын
Final Fantasy and its time loops, even since the very first game...
@twilliamspro
3 жыл бұрын
I like think think of Squall at about 9 or 10 and Edea realises "He's that time traveller"
@strangesmoke5236
3 жыл бұрын
One thing about this, fate and destiny are not synonyms. Fate is predetermined, nothing you can do to change it. Destiny depends on your choices made to fulfill your potential or not.
@CherubEros
2 жыл бұрын
@basil I don’t know if you read this or came to it in your own, but it touches me none the less that I’m not alone.
@CherubEros
2 жыл бұрын
Another thing that makes Squall a child of fate is the fact that the dream sequences tell Squall his immediate future. That he is so like his father, that they share the same lives. Laguna meets Julia and shortly Squall meets Rinoa.
@LastDinosaur91
3 жыл бұрын
Kim I loved this. Please do a Final Fantasy 9 review.
@sf3testvids
3 жыл бұрын
Yea 9 needs more love
@orbitingdecay6797
2 жыл бұрын
Yes do it Kim! 9 is the best
@phanboysmagoria8318
2 жыл бұрын
Second!
@dizzlegrizzle1919
Жыл бұрын
agree
@merovmerov7631
Жыл бұрын
I which there was a sequel. To see how the war transformed the world. Especially because of the trauma resulting from 3 sorceress in a row (Adel, Edea under Ultimecia, and Ultimecia herself), the way Galbadia and Estar got ravaged, the Lunatic Pandora being back on earth. There is room for a lot of drama.
@uchytjes10
3 ай бұрын
Arguably, we kind of got similar in the game already. We get to see some of what the world was like during Adel's war through Laguna and then explored it fully throughout the rest of the game.
@fallenwing25
2 жыл бұрын
@1:32:30 I always pick instruments that lead to the Irish jig and that leads to rinoa and squall having a pleasant conversation with no arguments 🥰
@Romess1
7 ай бұрын
This is a thing? Lol after 25y and 20+ playthroughs I still learn new things.
@genyakozlov1316
3 жыл бұрын
Finally, a four hour long review video on this accursed platform which doesn't consist of nitpicking and repeating the same point over and over. I don't agree with a lot of this, especially questioning the lunar physics in a game where you launch your dog at monsters, but it's pretty darn good overall.
@jerryvc86
2 жыл бұрын
@s a 😂
@thorthethundergod69
Жыл бұрын
Lol ❤
@ДонелТорбен
Жыл бұрын
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@Krackorn
Жыл бұрын
I loved this game. It is and will always be my favorite game of all time. This started my love for games and my love for final fantasy!
@SebasTian58323
Жыл бұрын
Final Fantasy VIII holds a special place in my gaming heart as it was the first installment I experienced in the series. I adore the soundtrack, composed by Nobuo Uematsu, for its ability to enhance the storytelling experience. Eyes on Me, in particular, stands out as my favorite game theme, a poignant ode that elevates the emotional depth of the narrative. Visually, Final Fantasy VIII is a masterpiece, seamlessly blending fantasy and futuristic elements. The graphical prowess of its time is still appreciated today, showcasing the timeless artistry that defines the Final Fantasy series. The innovative Junction system adds layers of strategy to the gameplay, intertwining seamlessly with the narrative. It's not just a game mechanic; it's a dynamic element that adapts to your choices and shapes the journey uniquely for each player. And if-like me-you just go through the game normally, and slowly learn how it works, you don't break anything until much later when it's more appropriate. The narrative delves into the complexities of its characters, offering a rich and layered storytelling experience. The plot twists, character arcs, and overarching themes leave a lasting impact, making the game more than just a momentary escape. Eyes on Me may hold the title of my favorite game theme, but the haunting allure of One Winged Angel, Sephiroth's character theme, captures a different essence. It's a symphony of darkness, an embodiment of the antagonist's enigmatic nature that lingers in the mind long after the game is put down. And then there's Triple Triad, a mini-game that transcends its label. Its simple yet addictive mechanics and the thrill of collecting and refining a deck create a microcosm of strategic gameplay within the larger narrative. In essence, Final Fantasy VIII is not just a game for me; it's a profound journey that intertwines storytelling, visuals, gameplay mechanics, and musical composition into a seamless, immersive experience that I still go back to every time and enjoy.
@Saiks11
Жыл бұрын
That is frkn amazing quality content!!! Just discovered your channel. I could watch those kind of videos everyday before I go to sleep. Amazing work buddy! Hyped for FF7. 8 Was my first one, thanks for the memories!
@pedrofigueiredo5460
Жыл бұрын
Loved your video! One thing though: My theory why squall is chosen to be the leader of the group and eventually the gardens as well… Well, edea and cid created seed because of what squall said in the end. So they knew squall was suppose to be the leader and the one who would vanquish ultimacia in the end. Even though he didn’t wanted to be a leader it was his destiny.
@dangerwarg9682
2 жыл бұрын
The memory loss is important in the end though. All Squall had to do to go back to his time was remember the spot he and Rinoa promised to meet up at. That's all he had to do. But he forgot that, got lost in time, created SEED, and forgot Rinoa, leading him to get forever lost in time if Rinoa hadn't came back to save him.
@Joe_334
Жыл бұрын
I didn't even consider all of that. I thought it was just a consequence of their prolonged exposure to the Time Compression.
@Mrniceguy2209
Жыл бұрын
...what?
@dangerwarg9682
Жыл бұрын
@@Mrniceguy2209 what
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Жыл бұрын
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@LegendOfGames
3 жыл бұрын
This was a really fun watch. FF8 was the first Final Fantasy I ever played (and maybe even the first RPG,) so I definitely have a different view on it. It's nice to see a fresh take from someone who hadn't tried it until recently. One little thing I noticed with the production, though. There were quite a few parts where you seemed to have left in multiple consecutive takes of the same line. I'm not sure if that was in the videos when they were released individually, but it was definitely in this version, and a bit odd to hear. It's still a totally enjoyable watch, though.
@reloadpsi
Ай бұрын
Deling City's big archway is straight up called L'Arc de Triomphe in the French localization. So there you have it. Also with what you said about splitting the party in disc 2: if you bring Zell and Irvine back to Balamb with you, the character who shows up to guide you to the game's critical path is Zell, offering a session at the training centre. Dude literally asks Squall for a gym date. It's awesome.
@tsinestexicthdauwraum9082
2 жыл бұрын
I always thought the "Disciplnary Committee" was meant to be a joke. Like, Seifer, Raijin and Fujin get in trouble so much that everyone mockingly calls them that.
@tubey84
3 жыл бұрын
Compare this to ProJared's travesty of a 'review' and it's chalk and cheese. This is professionalism. Love it Kim.
@tical2399
3 жыл бұрын
Nothin really wrong with PJ's review unless you take issue with the fact that he seems to not like it as much.
@tubey84
3 жыл бұрын
@@tical2399 Nope, there's actual, objective, factual stuff wrong with it. Just one example - he says Ultimecia turns up 'out of nowhere'. For his FF7 review, he said Cloud 'wasn't at Nibelheim'. He makes silly mistakes because he's not paying attention. It's fine he doesn't like the game (it's not my favourite either), but the problem is it's all through the lens of fanboyism for Final Fantasy 6 with him. Kim's review is astonishing in its' depth and nuance. It's a completely different league to Jared, and with 8 in particular that stings solely because of how often people go for the lazy low hanging fruit with it.
@tical2399
3 жыл бұрын
@@tubey84 Meh, Kim's is fine, Jared's is fine too. I got no problem with either.
@Easelgames
3 жыл бұрын
@@tubey84 It's easy to miss stuff. It's even easier to miss stuff and get facts crossed when your target videos are 20-30 minutes. Kim doesn't place a limit on the length, so there's no worry about constantly cutting stuff out. Projared doesn't have the audience that listens to the 4 hour videos... if he made one it would get a fraction of any traction.
@tubey84
3 жыл бұрын
@@Easelgames I agree it's easy to leave stuff out. I don't expect a vid to be as comprehensive as Kim's to be good. However, getting things outright wrong is another matter.
@KasumiRINA
11 ай бұрын
2:17:35 the answer to your question is that Squall needs to be the knight who protects the sorceress... that's his role. Disc three is when he is willing to go... to the moon and back. For her. Opening hinted at that too.
@DjSilish
Жыл бұрын
What a fantastic review, really wanted to replay this game but couldn’t invest the time into it again. This game for me is so nostalgic it brings back all the childhood memories and hours spent playing the game. I actually love the game but your synopsis of it is spot on you point out all of its flaws perfectly and highlight all that it does well. I personally love the musical score and I must say I like Irvine 😂. Your review was excellent new subscriber earned 🙌🏼
@turtferguson4831
Жыл бұрын
Ff8 is so breakable. And that's why it's my favorite. Other games try to stop you from breaking them, but it's a choice. And I like it. Let me have fun! Other people don't have to screw up their game, and I should be allowed to
@azazeldeath
Жыл бұрын
Love ff8. Ironically enough it's my favourite of the series. Bias has alot to play, it helped me escape a pretty dark childhood. But most importantly Squall is NOT dead. You'd need to google it yourself. But think the lead producer fairly recently, like withing think last 5 to 10 years. Has stated Squall did NOT die and is alive.
@Septyrikon
3 ай бұрын
Regarding the whole Irvine issue. Some of the reasons why he never spoke up or did anything could be attributed to him feeling left out and to some degree ignored by the group. Since he was at Galbadia (as the only one seemingly) he would have been alone in that sense. Furthermore when linking up with the group, he's further isolated in the sense that no one remembers him. I chalk his not saying anything then up to him feeling like the friendship they had at the orphanage was unimportant to Squall and Co. Or they just forgot and he was like "fuck it, fine I don't know you either I guess" from feeling alone all the years previous. He's still a douche yeah, but I don't think him not saying anything can be at least somewhat explained.
@Vereid
2 жыл бұрын
This is such a great review! Also you made me realise a couple of things that never really clicked with me when I was younger. 1 being just how big of a jerk Irvine really is. As bad as the writing is in 8 at times (and it’s horrible) I still love the world. Ultimecia is one of my favourite villains in any story and I wish she was expanded on a little more (be it that she was locked into a time loop where people were destined to hate her, hence her being evil from the onset).
@Yurikon3
2 жыл бұрын
I honestly think FF stories are their best when they still are somewhat "grounded". FFVIII Disc 1 is brilliant, root-level inspection to its world and mixture of school-life and military. It is same time familiar and unusual. However as the game progresses its world kinda gets sidelined by its somewhat abstract time-travel plot with some loose character development. There are still interesting moments but it just does not grab one from the balls since it is already clear fantasy. Perhaps it is just my preferences but "destiny" theme just does not really hold much substance to me by itself. It can easily to just become one handwave to excuse some plot devices. I must also admit that Squall, while not the most interesting character, is still pretty unfairly taken as emo. If anything he seems to be opposite of emo. People seem to think folks should always be so open about their feelings or let them dictate their perspectives. Out of all characters he seems to be most aware that he is part of military organization while others still seem to think they are just in some high-school trip. He has adjusted himself to that military discipline and honestly the game could have played more with that aspect. The game kinda force-feeds the narrative that Squall is somewhat wrong in taking this job as business. I guess the reason Squall seems to get some flak is that the story does not seem to demonstrate Squall's stiff-upper-lipness as dedication to the job but just as some teenager quirk.
@jesseherman5540
2 жыл бұрын
I always took it as squall was trying to act like what he thought the perfect soldier was. Which is essentially a mindless drone but highly skilled professional who always gets orders done as perfectly as possible. But when push came to shove his true nature as a leader peaked out. Which is partially why the other characters trusted him. Quistis saw this when elone got attacked in the training center. Zell and selphie saw this when he took charge after seifer ran off during the test. It, ironically, was this act that held the team back in disc 1 and it wasn't until the missile incident where he dropped this that things started turning around.
@Yurikon3
2 жыл бұрын
@@jesseherman5540 Perhaps. It could be more grounded Cloud situation. The story could still have used more of that aspect and make Squall more actively strive towards his image. It also does not help that other characters are TOO immature for the job that Squall gets flak for not trying to be their mother hen for them. Squall seems to be the "observer" type character who doesn't outright try to change everything but eventually decides to take more active role to things. I think this all falls down to that "destiny" stuff. Instead of making Squall some destinied hero, he eventually grows into that leadership role. Now it just feels kinda forced and while ending gives context to Squall's role, it also kills some potential during the journey. If prophecy had been more vague and many others were striving for that "legendary Seed" role, Seifer being one of them, Squall had been more like a dark horse and make the end seem more earned than Cid just kicking Squall directly to the role.
@jesseherman5540
2 жыл бұрын
@@Yurikon3 yeah. There are a lot of parts of this game that could have been handled better. Honestly the story in general isn't handled the best after the battle of the gardens and I feel that is Part of why this games so polarizing. I personally wish the other characters would have gotten more development as well.
@Yurikon3
2 жыл бұрын
@@jesseherman5540 Crimson tear and many world lore elements were very interesting and would have earned more to be used than the whole Ultimecia gig. At least Ultimecia could have tied more strongly to world's lore.
@asdfghjkllkjhgfdsa8725
2 жыл бұрын
I dont think you get to call a game broken when you are using guides to break it... Youre average player isnt going to play the game as effeciently as you have here. The first time i played it as a kid it was hard.. it was literally first rpg ive ever played though I use the second time i played it, as an adult, for my litnus test though. While it was no longer hard, it did still take me strategy to beat it... I sure tf wasnt 1 hitting omega weapon.
@specterent
2 жыл бұрын
North America got more than two Final Fantasy games. The numbering gets weird as we got the NES FF1, but then like FF 4 and 6 were our 2 and 3, we also got Mystic Quest on Super NES before FFVII. I sill have my FF Origins, Anthologies, and Chronicles discs from PS1.
@0WaZen0
2 жыл бұрын
I love review videos like this, especially when you hear the creator pronounce the unique words and names in the game differently from how you would've pronounced them yourself, not a dig at all here just something I've always considered interesting! Also I notice you call Ward... Watts? Is that a change that was made in different game versions? Either way good video, loved this game as a kid and was actually my first introduction to Final Fantasy and gaming as a whole~
@VincentSaturn
10 ай бұрын
I have a SeeD tattoo on my shoulder within my sleeve piece. This game is legendary. I still haven’t replayed it since 2000 but I want to so I can dig deep into the Rinoa/Ultimecia theory
@aroccoification
4 ай бұрын
The first time I played FF8 I got to level 80 on disk one The game was literally impossible to finish
@Alg0rM0rtis
Жыл бұрын
When I've leared the refinement method for items and even for cards, I became already invincible on disk 1. Great memories
@Borohoro
11 ай бұрын
the song of eyes of me always give me chill...and also all the ost that base on it.
@espensele662
Жыл бұрын
Fantastic video, the FFVIII video I always wanted. Your script was great, and you have a great charisma. Cheeky stuff.
@Rackatiakka
2 жыл бұрын
Fell asleep listening to you and had a dream you traded me phones at a TMobile store. I left and realized I liked my old phone more. Came back and you were gone and the building wasn't there anymore. Real nice Kim.
@stephenmoran5855
11 ай бұрын
I love the FF games but never really understood 8. This has been a fantastic way to get it. Now I can't wait to play it again!
@TrynePlague
3 жыл бұрын
When it comes to Square games, nothing beats Vagrant Story. Although FF8 comes a damn close 2nd on my list followed by FF12.
@Zumii
3 ай бұрын
I don’t understand the hate for Irvine, he was a mainstay in my party the first time through. He’s probably the most interesting and complex character in the entire game, nothing but shades of grey. He’s also a really enjoyable character to have in your party. This is a really good review of the game but massively misjudges Irvine for reasons I can’t quite figure out, even after watching the entire video through twice.
@sopranophantomista
2 жыл бұрын
This video just kinda popped up after something else. I was going to click off to find something else, but I'm glad I didn't. That's not because it doesn't interest me, but because I've never played the game. I don't have an opinion one way or the other about the game. The only exposure I've had to FF8 is from fanservice-y references from FF14, and a certain AMV that I saw way back when of various cutscenes put to Sarah Brightman's song "Deliver Me". I now know why the song was chosen, at the very least. 😅 It's also very neat to see various character names and themes and how they evolve with each game. This was very comprehensive, and I see the effort you put into this video. Thank you for your time and energy talking about this.
@CelicaSound
Жыл бұрын
So watched this and was really impressed with the whole thing. I responded the only way I could... subscribed👍👍👍👍
@Ixeas22
Жыл бұрын
Just a small correction for the beginning of the video for the series name of "Final Fantasy": The story about them naming the game that because of it being their final shot is actually a myth. They named it that because they couldn't secure the name "Fighting Fantasy" as it was already under copyright.
@MMCV963
Жыл бұрын
Where did that myth come from? I've seen that on other videos too.
@Ixeas22
Жыл бұрын
@@MMCV963 It was said by Hironobu in an interview. There's a documentary floating around on KZitem with the clip. I know the documentary, without a doubt, is about the history of the Final Fantasy franchise.
@MMCV963
Жыл бұрын
@@Ixeas22 ah nice, I'll have a look at the one, thanks :)
@marcbain6000
Жыл бұрын
This is an incredibly well put together review, I laughed a few times throughout, having been a fan of 6,7,8,9 and 10 and playing each at least once a year each I am aware of all the additional content that some people may have missed, it was covered in good humour here. 7 is my personal favourite followed closely by 9, but 8 holds a special place because back in the 90's we didn't have a way to spoil anything other than buying the official walkthrough guides which allowed me to discover everything myself 😊 Really enjoyed this Kim Justice, Thankyou
@teosto1384
2 жыл бұрын
My all time favorite FF game. And there are reasons. Quistis for one of course. But also that I played it around 17 year old me. And now watching this recap of it the mentions of Squall and Laguna somehow come to me as a surprise. I didn't absorb that on my runs of the game back in those days. BUT they do make perfect sense and I actually identify a lot of my own self in them, for better or for worse. So 17yo me has apparently built his identity to match those of Squall/Laguna without even realizing it at the moment when it happened.
@opinionpaladin6007
3 ай бұрын
Personally I subscribe to the theory that Squall never existed. He’s always been a figment of Rinoa’s mind, rinoa being Edea as well. Greaver being the real squall. Has a lot less weight with ff10 being a thing
@LethalBubbles
Жыл бұрын
I love this game more and more over the years. when it first came out I was 12 and thought Squall was cool but I thought the orphanage part was dumb later I completed it sometime in the 2000s and liked it more but still didn't really get the orphanage stuff. now as a 30something with some nostALGIA pains, the themes make more sense. I kinda hate nostalgia asa a marketing tool. This game shows the bittersweetness it actually has. Also wow the game was really ahead of it's time. I really find the academia military complex themes and those missles pogniant in this age of terrorism at school.
@kinichi20
Жыл бұрын
2:52:35 why did he started sounding like C-3PO 😂😂😂
@MadnessHEROReverend
2 жыл бұрын
No cid in the original you say? Well that's were you be mistaken. All four of the playable characters are Cid. Well, more like each is a cid really. There's Cidna, the White mage. Cidel the red mage, Cidan the black mage, and Cidic the fighter.
@ninjapirate47
2 жыл бұрын
That was a thoroughly good analysis. I don't think I ever did a full second playthrough of ff8. It had so many issues and while I completed it I wasn't into breaking it. Or if I did it was simply through experimentation & drawing aura like there was no tomorrow. Wonderful video, Kim. It had to be for me to invest 4 hours into a youtube video. You should be proud of your work and thank you so much for the entertainment. Plus your hatred of Irvine was enough for a watch alone.
@ikkeheltvanlig
Жыл бұрын
Tonberry King "isn't even all that good in the end"? Are you joking? It's one of the most important ones with its shop and discount abilities! Also, it sounds like you didn't enjoy the way to get him, but honestly I always felt the way you had to completely murder a score of his people, enemies that are the easiest in the game to just run away from, to provoke him to take action and try to stop you himself. I mean, you're basically murdering his family and then beating him into submission to serve you as a mere asset. The callousness and coldheartedness you must display to get him is bone chilling, how can you not appreciate the symbolic meaning of your actions?
@Phoenix1664
4 ай бұрын
I thought i was gonna hate this, with the factual inaccuracies, missing some GFs, and listening to a dude that can't pronounce his R's. But actually i found it engaging. It was a really good breakdown and at times funny, and at times interesting, and i enjoyed it. Here, have a subscriber.
@lloyd011721
3 жыл бұрын
if ff8 had enemies not level with you and had a different junction system it would have been a waaay better game.
@podgemurray4377
Жыл бұрын
the worlds best action movie, only in game form. I really do think that if people played FF8 first, they'd like it more. Most people that have do, and vice versa for FF7. FF8 Was the first ff game I played in the Final Fantasy series and it is my favorite game of all time on par with The Legend of Zelda ocarina of time. I can also say for absolute fact that the combat in FF8, Although hurt by the magic draw system was made much better by giving the main character 'Squall' the active mechanic of hitting the trigger on his Gunblade during his attack animation. That one thing literally makes the game for me, I really wish they would have carried it on in 9, if they did I would have no doubt that 9 would be my favorite.
@kelvinw.1384
Жыл бұрын
I love the orchestra music in this game the first of its kind for Final Fantasy
@SeFu2006
2 жыл бұрын
This is the only game I think I’m gonna wait a little longer to get a remake every other game I cherish has been remade pretty much
@user-jy2sj4ed4i
Жыл бұрын
Great work I've watched this whole thing 2× now
@miinyoo
10 ай бұрын
Gun sword mechanic is the sole reason I didn't play 8. Took one look at it and noped right out.
@CreamerOfTheDairySquad
Ай бұрын
Selphie is my favorite in FF8 too. I feel it's rare to find selphie fans
@yiyunzhuo5991
4 ай бұрын
starting to play this game after I listened to this video essay a year ago
@michaeljohnson6905
10 ай бұрын
Its very telling how much the plot and characters of this game relies on people's interpretations. I think thats a sign of bad writing more than anything. People filling in the blanks, coming up with theories, or saying "its moew about what Squall *isnt* saying"
@bobhollywood4093
Жыл бұрын
This is my favourite FF game. I never beztvit, but I used to play it and VII on PC all the time. I have it got the original PlayStation now, but I don't have a system to play it. I would love to jump beck into this classic.
@chapterblaq
2 жыл бұрын
Funnily enough. I had my legal middle name changed to Leonhart is tribute to Squall. I first played KH1 as a pre-teen and thought "Leon" was straight badass. Then I played FFVIII in my teens and his story arc (him overcoming his assholishness/social anxiety) spoke to me.
@michaelcabello9664
2 жыл бұрын
Keep up the good work!
@Gsprfdude
Жыл бұрын
I think I disagree with you when it comes to Cid. I don't think Cid is literally a coward in this game. He calls himself that, most likely because he can't bring himself to lead a military force against his own wife, even if she is a massive threat and feels cowardly as a result. This could also explain the nature of him supporting the use of GFs among the party, as it means they won't remember their time with Edea (with the exception of Irvine) and therefore won't have to hold back. It's also probably the best shot they might have of beating her if they attack her with the very same children she helped raise.
@PlaystationMan-e3p
Жыл бұрын
I might sound corny or stupid, But i feel like ff8 is a perfect game and story for a growing up child or maybe teen. yes everybody is incompetent, but to me when growing up it felt like a opera story, because, i never seen anything like it in a medium like that, plus it was my first babies rpg, you could say.
@kupokinzyt
2 жыл бұрын
What does Kim mean in the beginning, that in the West, we didn't see FF until 7? Growing up, I had 1, 2, 3 (6), 4 and 5 and Mystic Quest for the SNES, FF Adventure for the GameBoy and even 2 different movies that were in English. Final Fantasy was huge in the west and I'm 28 years old. My original nickname, came from FF3 where I fell in love with moogles and wouldn't stop saying KUPO, when I was like 5 years old. This was before the PS1 was even released.
@YukaTakeuchiFan
2 жыл бұрын
I was gonna say something about how it took until 7 for the series to become the sheer juggernaut it became and its effects on the industry, and it's more a symbolic "we didn't see FF until 7" than anything else... But then it hit me, Kim is from Europe. And I looked at some data about that, and if I'm reading things right, Europe actually DIDN'T see any of the FF games (save for Mystic Quest, which apparently didn't even HAVE the Final Fantasy label over there) until 7. Hell, looks like the vast majority of the games didn't even make it there until 2000 and later, which just sounds nuts from my end, but that's how it was, I guess!
@seanp8220
Жыл бұрын
Love watching and rewatching this, same with your newer FF7 one. I look forward to a 9 one most of all!
@KiariGaming
3 ай бұрын
This game was made for a younger audience, all the people I know that love this game played it at 12 or younger.
@fyffitness
Жыл бұрын
FF7 was an instant classic FF8 was great. I preferred the card game to chocobo racing. I preferred the artistic style to the sprites. Moving the school around was dope and different. The fighting system was better. They just took all of the problems from 7 and improved on them. Definitely a dope game, one I loved, and will love eternally.
@TheSmith357
Жыл бұрын
I think that you bring some interesting opinions on this game even though I disagree with most of them, I think that what you may have missed is that these characters are underage, Squall and most are 17 and Quistis and Seifer are 18. these are child soldiers trained from a young age in the art of war. taken from orphanages and taught to soldier. Of course they are emotionally stunted and lack complex strategies on how to adult.
@vovasyhin7219
2 жыл бұрын
I just read the wiki in relation to Gunblades and i think its a deliberate oversight by the developers, to think it does not fire a projectile. It's not what happens in the game, as when you pull the trigger you can hear a firing shot and deliver a small explosion to the enemy. Wiki states that its a revolver with a barrel and drum, when discharged it delivers a small explosion, how is that not a projectile? There are explosive rounds IRL, how else would you deliver an explosion at range? Explosions cannot be simply expelled out of a small barrel, because it would just simply make the weapon explode. Without a round containing an explosion it would simply discharge fire, hence a flamethrower akin to dragons breath round, but that's not the case! I think Square did that because of the crappy gun laws and gun related crimes in America, hence the GUN is NOT A GUN!
@sladey21
Жыл бұрын
This was the game that should've been a remake not ff7. Ff7 is my favourite rpg of all time but I always thought that ff8 would've fit the remake style better
@matthew...4961
4 ай бұрын
Grinding that 6 AP on that beach 😏 I absolutely love FF8 ❤️
@Talon007
Ай бұрын
I wish they really emphasized refine abilities and playing cards. Completely changed the gameplay.
@crazybanana5089
9 ай бұрын
Ummm Quistis is prolly have the best ultimate out there. Mighty Guard is the best offense…shockwave pulsar is good. But the creme of the crop is Degenerator…. It one shot almost all enemies with few exception: cactuars, tonberries, and bosses. Sooo yeahhhhhhh
@philharmonic2251
3 жыл бұрын
Loved this, even in parts. Please do ff9 🙂
@mattyourownbusiness1149
8 ай бұрын
I personally could not get into FFVIII it just never had that grab factor that 7 did. It was pretty but all of the characters were so hard to like. Never got past the second disc which says it all for me
@jpaulc441
Жыл бұрын
I'm wondering what Selphie would look like if she became Sorceress Selphie?
@alexdart8508
Жыл бұрын
Irvine with fast ammo can actually deal ridicolous amounts of damage
@SubTactHiphop
Жыл бұрын
That wutang reference sold the sub for me
@andrewward8867
Жыл бұрын
Honestly would be my favorite FF if not for the combat. I really do dislike the draw system. But still an amazing game either way!
@terry85mar
Жыл бұрын
As someone with bad ocd this game is a living hell. If I draw magic I can't be satisfied unless I draw 99 of each magic that's available. I never use magic because depleting my stock to anything less than 99 drives me crazy. The story also sucks. So stupid that the writers used gfs as the reason they have amnesia when by some miracle these kids that all grew up in the same orphanage all just miraculously happened to come across each other again when in their minds at the time don't even know each other really. That plus the end game was just so stupid.
@fallenwing25
2 жыл бұрын
Lovely review!
@Cybernetic800
Жыл бұрын
I always thought Squall as a character would come across better if he was voice acted
@KasumiRINA
11 ай бұрын
With internal monologues or without?
@josephshepherd6968
2 жыл бұрын
Yeah fair play but back in 1999, I don't think any of us had cheesed and worked out all the mechanics of the game. Maybe some did, but I just played it and enjoyed it and it was hard, didn't seem broken to me. I still don't know most of the stuff you talk about.
@justinnelson4530
Жыл бұрын
First ff game I ever saw in 1998 I believe, was at my friends house. FF 7 was the first I actually played and beat myself though. Great memories.
@KrazyFuka
3 жыл бұрын
ff8 is probably my favorite game from my childhood
@mothcub
3 жыл бұрын
i love ff8 so much and honestly i'll never relate to any ff character more than squall, i love that awk lil man
@lexnoil
3 жыл бұрын
Yeah in love the music in Winhill and Fisherman Horizon.
@jedgrahek1426
3 жыл бұрын
Reading your comment made me smile; it's so rare to find someone else who relates to Squall and isn't afraid to admit it. One of the (many) reasons I love 8 is that it was the first game in the series to have characters who felt like real human beings, as opposed to heroes in a cliched fantasy novel. And I've been playing the series since the first, and for me anyway, that made all the radical changes of 8 extremely impressive and fascinating. Not only are the characters fundamentally different from the ground up, but so is every aspect of traditional RPG mechanics aside from the ATB system. I just found the whole thing to be so intensely refreshing, both emotionally and mechanically, after playing so many JRPGs that never strayed too far from the norm (I hadn't had the pleasure of playing the Shin Megami Tensei series at that point). And all of that was clearly exactly what the developers were trying to do. So I've always seen the criticism of 8 as lacking merit in most cases, because it either comes from people whose first JRPG was 7 and/or people who barely played it and just jumped on the bandwagon once they heard a bunch of other people saying they hated it. I don't think it's possible to do a good-faith critique of 8 and not come away with mostly positives. Even the batshit-insane story, which is definitely the weakest facet of the game, is so full of sincere emotion and events that are so resplendently rendered that one cannot help but watch in awe as it all unfolds, even if one is laughing at it half the time. That's another thing I don't get, people who can't enjoy something if any part of it feels silly to them, regardless of how amazing the rest is. When I play 8, I simply get extra enjoyment from the parts that can be laughed at, while also continuing to take them seriously and be emotionally engaged with the story. And for all the parts of the game that can be laughable, I'm not ashamed to admit that the ending always gets tears in my eyes; again, what's the point of such a thing at all if you can't allow yourself to be swept up by it? And of course, the music is the best of the PS1 games by a wiiiide margin; as are the graphics, to me. I think the battle graphics and summons are more impressive in 8 than in 9, due to a combination of one less player character, and vastly better art direction. I honestly can't stand the almost blizzard/wow aesthetic that 9 used, it makes every town look like part of Disneyland or something... lol, that was the negative shock game for me, after the clean, beautiful magical realism of 8.
@lexnoil
3 жыл бұрын
@@jedgrahek1426 yeah, i love the beautiful cutscenes and music on FF8, and i always relate to Squall and Laguna.
@KrazyFuka
3 жыл бұрын
yup
@andrewjustice210
3 жыл бұрын
Agreed, but also …whatever…
@lucienlapidus
3 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much for the Flashback. I first played FF8 when it came out for PC. I passed on FF7. As I remember it hit me about the age of 17 or 18 struggeling with live and plans regarding higher education. I was in the right age and the garden was very fitting. I never fully understood the GF level mechanics but until today I can't remember any game which would have had that impact on me. I remember the story as something I never experienced in gaming until then. I was to weak to end the game but regarding story telling and side charakters Mass Effect lifted ffs curse. Ff15 is a faint shadow of the series strength. Today the balamb garden theme is my morning alarm sound of choice. So wonderfully calming
@rodoherty1
3 жыл бұрын
How on earth do you bring yourself to script, record and edit such enormous videos? You're a bloody marvel, Kim!
@rtsgod
3 жыл бұрын
it's a compilation of older videos. to be fair it;s still long, but yeah it's old content bundled
@DJxGrizz
Жыл бұрын
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Жыл бұрын
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Жыл бұрын
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@Lightforspirit
3 жыл бұрын
You make criminally underrated documentaries Kim. I honestly wish your videos would receive more attention. Time to enjoy this video!
@8draco8
3 жыл бұрын
Yes, this, especially GTA series, I'm watching it at least once a year, it's so good.
@FredFuchs77
3 жыл бұрын
Totally agreed.
@zZiL341yRj736
2 жыл бұрын
Now I don't have to play the damn game.
@andycollins2637
2 жыл бұрын
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@winterstag
Жыл бұрын
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@ocirontariocryptidinvestig8010
3 жыл бұрын
Dam this is the best game documentary I have ever seen man. Glad you are getting back to this type of content.
@TheKpa11
2 жыл бұрын
FF8 has many secret flavor details that would be appreciated in better games that have more positives to them, it makes me like FF8 more, but a lot of the hidden stuff is either very cryptically hidden, isn’t that big of a deal in the long run, and others times punishing as a joke Like there’s this “Instructor Aki” you can see by talking to certain students on the second floor, do it enough times and the pay off is getting your Seed rank reduced by one By collecting Timber maniacs, you get small changes to Laguna flashbacks like Laguna realizing he’s talking to much to Julia, Ward becoming a party member in the Ruby Dragon part, or Laguna getting a cramp at the crystal place. That old key in the Crystal place, pays off all the way near the almost end of disc three, and that’s if you do it properly and in that area you can access two doors, one contains a draw point, and one gives Quistis access to the Ray bomber move that mech spider back in dollet used If you go into a library as zell many times you get a scene with some girls asking zell what things he likes, and if you answer right, in the Battle meter (Also something you can miss and only get if you talk to cid again after leaving garden then going back in before going to Timber) there’s just some text change in relationship If you kill the Mech spider, you can bypass the FMV of it getting destroyed on the beach, and you can bypass it by hiding in the bar right before you get to the point that triggers it It’s cool to see these things, secrets to discover, but you have to ask yourself if it is worth it or it’s needlessly hidden, but that flavor does add like-ability to a game
@studas2011
3 жыл бұрын
Went back to this a couple of years ago on an emulator and 100%-ed it. Great game, fantastic music.
@Skellotronix
3 жыл бұрын
Music so good I had to buy the 4 disc collectors edition OST haha
@QJSquall
Жыл бұрын
@@Skellotronix Saw that when I was in Japan, at a store called Geo, and immediately picked it up. Saw it referenced in BGM files for so many years, there was no way I wasn't picking something of that magnitude up, haha!
@robertlawrence9000
3 жыл бұрын
Final Fantasy VIII is very underrated in my opinion. It's a great game with a great story. That opening is so iconic and wonderful. I prefer the older style of the characters to the the newer remakes. The older style with the dimmer eye color adds an exotic hybrid style of wonder and fascination to the characters that draw me in more. The modern versions where they emphasize the blue of the eyes took away much of the charm of the characters. I wish they wouldn't have done that and only made the graphics with upscaled resolution.
@jknoclue607
2 жыл бұрын
@Vivec's Vassals nope not even close to 7s shadow all because they made squall so bland and interesting that who even cares then you throw in a pretty bad magic system when you break it down and a card game that.....is better than the game itself
@martinroner5688
2 жыл бұрын
I agree, it is underrated. It's not that the magic system is bad, it's just so damn exploitable... Learn healing magic refinement, buy some tents, turn them into vitaga, et voila, you got 5000+ HP, while you and the enemies are still below level 15. So you don't have a need to heal and can spam limits endlessly... It's the only real gripe I have with the game.
@libertyprime7911
2 жыл бұрын
I disagree-- I think it's not "underrated"; it's a perception problem. There's a huge number of people who think FF8 is the best Final Fantasy game - but fans of the other games refuse to believe it.😑
@Lancesuaze
2 жыл бұрын
@@martinroner5688 I agree. I do think it’s underrated because of the push behind FF7 and FF13, at least if we’re speaking long term. Short term, FF8 had an amazing turn out after FF7. I think you used the perfect adjective for the magic system, exploitable. Although I don’t necessarily care for the grinding a lot of final fantasy games require, all monsters should’ve had stat minimums and not based off Squall’s level.
@MCG55SS
2 жыл бұрын
Ff8 is great up to the Garden's fight which was one of the biggest highs in FF. Then it just.... slowly declines. Story pace slows, gameplay kinda dulls..just kinda goes bleh. So sad but hey got gunblade in FFXIV so worth
@pandamonium9255
2 жыл бұрын
As a kid when this came out and I played, all I knew was: Squall is relatable to me, I would have totally made out with Quistis, and hitting stuff with a gunblade was amazing… no matter how ridiculous the handling must have been. Who knew this game has a story to tell 🤣
@LordMalice6d9
Жыл бұрын
Quistis is basically "I'm hot for teacher" personified.
@BlueZirnitra
Жыл бұрын
@@LordMalice6d9 aka Anime Trope 4923. The spicy mothering teacher is a trope as old as time.
@lanmandragoran8337
Жыл бұрын
@@BlueZirnitra At least for once she's nice size F+ bust.
@Mootown211
Жыл бұрын
This was a great trip down memory lane, thanks! It's crazy how much of the second half of this game i completely forgot. I always thought 8 had its own charm, and i actually preferred it over 9, which I probably underrated. I would love to see you do a similar video for 9!
@jimmyhuynh6049
Жыл бұрын
Play the remastered version ; they made siphoning magic from enemies so much quicker. Makes it really enjoyable and satisfying now
@KasumiRINA
11 ай бұрын
Got through first hour of video, that's literally the part where the story got real good by me? The parade and everything and they GET Squall finally and try to help his issues instead of taking him for granted. I got like, opposite opinion on everything from you here (except that I adore Selphie too)... Also I found Squall, Irvine AND Zell likeable. I couldn't stand Quistis and Seifer. Rinoa being a "rebel princess" kinda explains everything else, both her competence and brattishness, she's LITERALLY LEIA AT THIS POINT. Her fights with Squall is basically Han Solo dynamics though our sniper is the scoundrel type and Leonhart is closer to Anakin but yeah... this is HEAVILY influenced by Star Wars story with very similar tropes and characters. So lead couple fighting because they destined for each other is a bit of a cliché, but how could people miss the tension? Squall is Rinoa's second crush and it's the end part of disk one where she looks at Seifer and understand she grew out of him completely and now loves Squall. Their triangle just doesn't have convenient "HE IS MY BROTHER" reveal, thankfully, otherwise this is original trilogy and yes, it goes IN SPACE soon for people who didn't get the other nods. We just really needed two droids for a party, Selphie can be Chewbacca anyway. P.S. Disc 2 has most memorable dialogue about war as you go through Balamb under occupation then Trebia after it's been missiled. Playing that as a kid was uneasy, would be doubly hard now during the real war... I work with some people from destroyed cities and some from occupied ones... It's all very horrible, even if place where I am is mostly spared asides from occasional air raid alarm. I think people miss the whole WAR theme of this game, FF7 and 6 also go into that of course.
@MrBreakthewalls
10 ай бұрын
Selphie talking to the kids in Trabia is one of my favourite moment in FF history
@Talesofmegblog
3 жыл бұрын
Quistis's Degenerator limit break is one of the best movies as it warps any monster away and very rarely misses 😁
@dizzlegrizzle1919
Жыл бұрын
I watched all of your FF7 review. it had the same impact on me with the same timing as it did you. then I came here to watch this one. this one is much much funnier. love them both. FF7 is the best game. but your narration on this one is funny. "why we suck"" made me laugh a bit"
@melasnexperience
3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for collecting this! This is a game that doesn't deserve the hate it constantly gets (largely because of a different video review series that's aged about as well as milk in the sun) but also has plenty of interesting elements to dissect & criticize, and your series on it was the best study of it. Glad to have it all in one nice chunk. EDIT: Oh God, I just realized that Esthar's rocket system is a reference to how the rocket is launched in Georges Melies' Trip to the Moon. After TWO DECADES, it finally clicked. And like all "it was all a coma dream/dying hallucination/drug haze" theories, I HATE "Squall is dead". It's just so shallow & dark for darkness's sake, and like you said, the whole "these fantasy elements are proof it's a dying dream" thing is just an arbitrary line where the people behind it have decided to draw suspension of disbelief.
@j.2512
2 жыл бұрын
spoony is now a washed up loser has been with no career. FF8 is still going strong with a remaster that sold absurdly well and it still is the best selling FF game outside 7, tied with FFX.
@dotto87
2 жыл бұрын
Hi. I know you made this comment ages ago but I’d like to know, what different video review series are you referring to?
@QJSquall
Жыл бұрын
@@dotto87 ^ Same! I'd really like to know! ^__^
@LordMarlle
Жыл бұрын
I hate this game without watching the angry review channels of yore
@KasumiRINA
11 ай бұрын
the dead Squall fan "theory" is more of a contrarian thing said by people with bad media literacy, I remember backlash that claimed Seifer is the cool dude Rinoa should be with (when his ENTIRE character is being a poser, that's his thing, and he's WAY more sympathetic when you accept that he is a wannabe with inferiority complex). @@dotto87 there were two waves of FF8-hatedom, one after release by overprotective FF7 fans and another after Spoony's review. It was very mature and thoughtful take on the game, for example naming the dog, Angelo, "АnаI" to get funny attack names. Totally classy!
@RichardCraig
3 жыл бұрын
I can't say enough just how valuable these series are for people like me who just never will have the patience to play these games myself but still want to know as well as if I had. I get exactly what I want from the game without all the frustration I feel while playing RPGs.
@so_bendy
2 жыл бұрын
Take a week off work and commit to a playthrough. You won't be disappointed.
@BlueZirnitra
Жыл бұрын
It's nice but honestly you don't get the full experience without playing it yourself. Snippets of music and scenes without the context having room to breathe is a poor replacement for being fully absorbed in the atmosphere. If it was anywhere near as good, none of us would bother playing games, we'd just watch videos like this.
@billythenarwhal1579
Жыл бұрын
I feel like you should play it at least once to get the full context it would make it soooo much more impactful, ik rpgs are frustrating especially turn based ones, but that time to grow with the characters and develop a connection with them is important.
@Dutchtica
Жыл бұрын
Real talk I fell asleep on the sofa watching Austin Eruption and woke up an hour into this. I went to bed but then spent the most of my Sunday watching this in pieces for a deep dive in what I feel is a misunderstood FF. It has great bits and poor design and I think you did it justice. Best fatigue induced channel exploration I've ever had. Subscribed
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