I was called a misogynist for daring to: talk about being raped, and talking about the harassment I received for having talked about it. "You deserve it" was the most common explanation. I am at fault for my harassment. For 'lying' about being raped. All because I dared to say that the rapists were women.
@Frightful_Lag0
Жыл бұрын
I can relate, stay strong, remember only you know the truth man. We are here for you
@matthewschuh3332
Жыл бұрын
My uncle did similar things to me and my cousins; and the rest of the family responded like your critics, so I commiserate. I hope your life is going better since then.
@BullofCrete
Жыл бұрын
I'm really sorry that happened to you. For me, I feel like it's a holdover of gender essentialism from Second Wave Feminism; same kinda stuff that fuels TERF ideology.
@MissNulle2000
Жыл бұрын
If their fake little world cant handle reality you're better off without them. Stay strong. Dont let them drag you down ♡
@DarkRonnie
Жыл бұрын
and this sort of thing was why i was following some rather far right wing groups for a time :(
@GalgaF
Жыл бұрын
as an italian i reserve my right to send death threats to any lobotomites who do not prepare every dish exactly as my nonna does
@OniLordMiki
Жыл бұрын
Old Benito would be proud
@twiggledy5547
Жыл бұрын
I cut my spaghetti before eating it
@marcoboscarol2420
Жыл бұрын
@@twiggledy5547 disturbing on so many levels XD
@OniLordMiki
Жыл бұрын
@Marco Boscarol funny how you find _that_ disturbing but not my comment. Interesting
@marcoboscarol2420
Жыл бұрын
@@OniLordMiki who does not like the old bowling ball XD
@SemiIocon
Жыл бұрын
Oh god, I had that Asperger discussion on twitter so many times. Fact is that people in Europe, who get diagnosed according to the ICD-10 (now the ICD-11) were diagnosed with either Kanner or Asperger autism, the spectrum has only been introduced by the new ICD-11 in the year 2022. So we still have a whole generation up until 2022 running around who were diagnosed as Asperger's and that's what they will identify with and Americans will just have to be okay with that the name is not gonna die during their lifetime.
@DmGray
Жыл бұрын
Not only that, but I wonder what many of them would say about the OTHER things they likely use routinely that are associated with Nazis or other odious ideas/people. There are several popular brands/companies that operated under Nazi rule. Hell, the humble VW beetle car could honestly be labelled a direct product of Hitler. I personally don't think all the VW fans are secret fascists :P
@garak55
Жыл бұрын
I mean, you're asking autists to relax and not to take irrelevant lexical differences as dramatic personal insults, you know that's not gonna happen lmao I'm making broad generalizations here of course, but that's kinda the entire point of autism: they're self-centered and have trouble understanding that other people might experience things differently than them. If you put autists in an enviromnent where people are forbidden to tell them "lol, calm down" under threat of exile, yeah, they tend go on tantrums like that. For your own mental health, just ignore them.
@evan12697
Жыл бұрын
Americans are fine with it, the color hairs just arent
@The_Bird_Bird_Harder
Жыл бұрын
I remember when I was told by a school counselor that, "You know you have autism right? Asperger's is now..." On, as you'd expect, and I was like, obviously I do? I already knew I did? Honestly I took more offense at the notion that I didn't, or that I looked down on autism cause I got a specific name. I'm autistic, I have Asperger's, not mutually exclusive, not really different things, and to be honest Asperger's is a waaaaaaaaay more effective way for me to communicate what's up to most people, it's specific, and people already have a general notion of what it means, that for me at least, is fairly correct. Of course being you know, an adult by now, I just generally get by without mentioning it. Also what you mentioned with the ICD, here in the U.S., the DSM only introduced the spectrum in maybe 2016 or so, so same goes that. Most people who would've been diagnosed with Asperger's have been, and probably still recognize it.
@antonioscendrategattico2302
Жыл бұрын
@@evan12697 I'm honestly over this "colored hair" insult. People with colored hair are great, I know a bunch, none of them are the kind of dogmatic tone policing online slacktivist that acts in that way. Hell, the people who are most guilty of this kind of behavior are fucking rich and respected news anchors and opinion piece writers for big newspapers, sitting cozy with their free income for life due to the connection they have. We gotta stop pretending that political correctness dogmatists are all queer zoomers with dyed hair, that's never really been the case.
@nerdywolverine8640
Жыл бұрын
i really feel like the concept of political correctness only puts focus on the *appearance* of actually being respectful towards other people and groups. having that be the framework we interact with others by as opposed to speaking with genuine respect and an openness to learn and make mistakes, being ok with occasionally messing up or hurting someone by accident, and ultimately actually trying to help people, will hold us back. i dont even see many of my leftist peers talking about political correctness often if at all, because we frame it as either basic respect for other people or just not going out of your way to cause harm. i only really see it brought up around liberals. (though i understand that's probably thanks to the social circles i move in more than necessarily representative.)
@DmGray
Жыл бұрын
The issue is that liberals dominate political space. Even on the left. Even amongst radicals. You can tell bc those PARTICULAR political radicals push for things that won't actually materially change anything. Just alter the window dressing to suit their preferences. I often see the "it's just basic respect" thing from people who are ACTIVELY harassing those who don't conform to whatever standards are supposed to be upheld. And it's pretty much ALWAYS hypocritical. (the example here of "tone policing" being used as an alternative attack by an abusive arsehole, when they were "tone policing" by their extreme over reaction to the term "asbergers") Most lefties are chill. But leftist ACTIVISM is filled with actually bad people. Just look at the reaction Vaush had to even bringing up potentially NOT conceding the support of young men to the alt right by default. (and I don't think Vaush is innocent of this very behaviour) I see more good lefties actually waking up to how bad it has gotten though. It'll just take a while for the rhetoric and action to catch up to this appreciation.
@marocat4749
Жыл бұрын
I mean ther is a power in shaming people, but i shiould not be the focus, and yeah orcing natsees uderground i a good use, forgetting and not caring about what actually , if it is superficial, it can be easy coopted by , pople ho dont cara about all but the powr. And pretty sure por abuse is not liked.
@antonioscendrategattico2302
Жыл бұрын
Exactly.
@ItCameFromTheSkyBeLo
Жыл бұрын
the only place ive heard of political correctness being important is at work, from HR
@augustuslunasol10thapostle
9 ай бұрын
@@DmGray not just any liberal really but neolibs the worst kind fuck even conservatives are liberals if they want free fair democracy lol
@justinkroboth360
Жыл бұрын
Burgerbro, I just want to give you the biggest hug. I've only discovered your content over the past few months, but I have enjoyed all of it. Hearing you bluntly say that you are far left just made me smile. It made me think "oh yeah, we'd get on great". So yeah, thank you for this video (and all the others, of course) because it reinforces the thought that you are a genuinely good person and that is rare with most KZitemrs - you just put it all out there and I think it's beautiful.
@waynegoldpig2220
Жыл бұрын
You just made the error of thinking far left = good person.
@justinkroboth360
Жыл бұрын
@@waynegoldpig2220 Of course far left doesn't always mean good person. It was everything I knew about him up until that point that made him good. It was his thoughts on LGBQT+ rights and everything in the intro. And, as I said, so many KZitemrs hide their beliefs or couch them in so much word salad babble that you don't actually know WHAT they believe. All of that, combined with his leftist alignment, makes him good people to me. Sure, someone whose beliefs don't align with his, be they political, social, or otherwise, probably doesn't see him as a good person, but I'm not here to speak for them - I was speaking for myself. I believed him to be a good person and everything he said galvanized that. Not sure what else you want to hear.
@theresaurus9820
Жыл бұрын
Ha! G ayyyyyy
@lorDNoVa1
Жыл бұрын
@@theresaurus9820 hahhshsghahahgsgaha 😁😁
@achristiananarchist2509
Жыл бұрын
So the thing about words like "high functioning" and "aspergers" and things like that being offensive has always been something that has been difficult for me to navigate. I am what would colloquially be referred to as "high functioning" autistic with moderate to severe ocd, and while I agree that this may not be the best way to refer to my condition, I need a differentiating term in practice in order to indicate the level of accommodation I require. Autism refers to something with a broad spectrum of manifestations of hugely varying intensity and presentation. Some autistic people need a caregiver to remind them to do simple things like shave. I kept a post-it note on the inside of my locker when I was in the military to remind me to do this, but I can get by with simple lifestyle fixes like that and don't generally need externally provided accommodations. The main thing I need to make sure people know about is the OCD, because I kind of got hit with the hammer on the compulsive side of that disorder, and can't get around the fact that I sometimes may be messed up for the rest of the day if I don't turn back around and re-enter the room I just walked into "correctly", so I need people to be aware that the autism-spectrum side of my disorder is relatively mild, but the OCD side is pretty bad, so I can, mostly, read your facial expressions but I am going to be awkward af and I will have weird ticks and compulsions that I can resist when absolutely necessary but it's taxing and I can't be expected to resist every single one for 8 hours a day 5 days a week. That phrase "High functioning autism with moderate to severe OCD" communicates all of that in just a few words. If we could, as a society, think of a replacement for "high functioning autism" that didn't involve name-dropping a nazi, that would be awesome, but it doesn't help either me or people with more "severe" autism that need more accommodation to lump us together, so we still need a differentiating term in practice.
@nerdywolverine8640
Жыл бұрын
this is true, but the thing about "high-functioning autism" is that it *also* obfuscates the differences between people perceived as high functioning. some people will say you're high functioning just because you can communicate well or "normally" with them, even if you do need a carer. ive seen people classify the same concept more broadly as low support needs and high support needs, as well as moderate support needs, which i like cause it puts focus on the support, and otherwise i think it makes more sense to talk about specific symptom severity because the spectrum is so varied. and on top of that we just need more education on what autism actually is in general- so many people still think the spectrum is just a gradient from autistic to allistic and not an entire spectrum of symptoms within autism.
@craigstephenson7676
Жыл бұрын
And even if there is a perfect way to say something like that, even if we had a single word in the dictionary to describe exactly what you meant, there is still absolutely no reason to get angry over semantics. When I see people getting offended over specific word choices, I get reminded of my Mormon upbringing, being told not to say things like “oh my god.”
@achristiananarchist2509
Жыл бұрын
@@nerdywolverine8640 I like high/moderate/low support a lot. That's a great way to get to the core of the actual issue we are trying to communicate without having this vibe like one is "better" than the other or something. I also do agree that discussing specific symptoms is really the best way to go about making such differentiation, though the lack of understanding of the condition makes that kind of difficult. I'm reminded of my situation where I currently work. I'm a programmer so it might not be surprising that I'm not the only autistic person in my department. My boss is also "high functioning" autistic, but he's actually "higher functioning" than I am, and often serves as a support structure pointing out things that other people might not feel comfortable with bringing to my attention or even realize need to be pointed out like "You need to retire that shirt. It has a hole in it." or "That guy was trying to tell you you hold the door open too long. You don't need to hold it open unless they are closer to you." I've witnessed some light stimming from him at work and he has some of the normal communication difficulties that make neurotypicals frustrated, but he approaches the point where it's just a personality quirk and can almost not even be thought of as a "condition" with "symptoms" at all. In the same way that someone who needs direct care and explicit accommodations at school and work isn't well served by being lumped in with me, I'm not actually particularly well served by being lumped in with my boss, as I do have more adaptive difficulties, even if I can still normally handle them myself. In a perfect world, where people were more aware of the array of symptoms being discussed here, it would be possible to state exactly what I need and what issues I can be expected to have with minimal confusion. It's kind of ironic to me that a condition whose most well known symptoms revolve around difficulties in effective communication is described using a naming convention that makes its symptoms difficult to communicate.
@achristiananarchist2509
Жыл бұрын
@@craigstephenson7676 I mean, I honestly kind of get it with terms like "high functioning", because it implies that someone with greater difficulties in self care and communication is "low functioning", and I would probably not like that if I were an autistic person who required a caregiver. For a while I thought "aspergers" was a decent way to communicate the "high functioning" idea without opening that can of worms, even if it's not always strictly accurate (it's actually not in my case. I'm better described as autistic than someone with aspergers syndrome from a medical perspective, but it worked well enough for social purposes). That being offensive now too is more of an issue to me, as obviously no one is promoting nazism by using the term "aspergers syndrome" any more than a fertilizer company is for using the haber process. The nazis had scientists. They did things. If you want to rename everything discovered by every nazi scientist I'm 100% cool with that, but it's not the user of the word's fault that that is what the thing is called. That really is more "offense olympics" than an actual offense with a reasonable rationale behind it.
@craigstephenson7676
Жыл бұрын
@@achristiananarchist2509 yeah, totally agree. It’s nice to have more precise language, but it’s not morally wrong to not use the perfect words
@BrendenShucart
Жыл бұрын
“Widespread emotional abuse perpetrated by narcissists.” I’m 3min in and pumping my fists in the air
@MrStinkyPipe
Жыл бұрын
27:27 there's a spider on your shirt. I hope it's not radioactive because we don't need another version of spiderman
@TheBurgerkrieg
Жыл бұрын
I remember brushing it off and thinking to myself "was there a bug crawling on me just now?" before I went on recording
@XDependent
Жыл бұрын
This video was the breath of fresh air I needed in my generally leftist community. I honestly feel like their are times when I see that fear you spoke of shaping the thoughts and actions of those around me and it only makes them worse versions of themselves without fail. The world is a scary place, but we as a people have to try to find the ways to live with it without changing us into something horrid.
@intranexine8901
Жыл бұрын
Neurodivergent Trans woman here, I already told you to stop reading my mind and making videos about it last time, it's rude and invasive jokes aside, THIS, THIS SO MUCH! OMG YES!! SOMEONE PUT IT INTO VIDEO FORM THANK YOU!!!
@Archone666
Жыл бұрын
Great video! Though I do have to disagree about one specific point. The "Greatest Generation," the ones who went through the Depression... they did NOT become conservative in response to suffering. In fact, they became radically progressive, particularly by the standards of the day - soldiers who went to war came back having served alongside POCs and recognizing the similarities between the Klan and the Nazis. They listened to FDR espousing "socialist" policies and put him in office three times (politicians had to pass an amendment creating term limits because they were terrified of having to compete with someone who actually gave a crap about people). They watched women going to work in factories and even serving in noncombat military roles, and recognized their worth. In fact, I believe that the reason for the intolerance, hatred, and "conservative" attitudes at the time is the same driving force for it today: propaganda. Constant, constant, CONSTANT marketing from media outlets and pundits to demonize the other side (whichever that is) and discourage empathy and discourse. A MAGA who blames "libtards" for his issues is a MAGA who's not showing up for a BLM rally and declaring, "Once I considered the matter, I realized black folks have the same issues with LAPD that I do with the BATF." A leftist who calls all conservatives "nazis" is a leftie who isn't looking at impoverished communities in "red" states and saying, "hey... they've got the same problems as minorities in the inner cities."
@TrinSpin
Жыл бұрын
I just want to say thanks; for the longest time I've felt like I'd been going insane because it seemed nobody else saw (or at least talked about) the parallels between those causes. No-knock raids (for the purpose of arrests and evidence collection, at least)/random stops/etc are FUBAR regardless of whether they're happening to someone in the inner city, a suburb or some rural town. Whether the police have reasonable suspicion/probable cause does not change that. Better ten guilty men go free than one innocent suffer.
@FigmentImage1
Жыл бұрын
I don't necessarily disagree with a lot of what's said here, but there's a bit of an intellectual disconnect between "Critical thinking means questioning everything and always being receptive to the idea that you might be wrong" and "people who say/do these particular things are narcissists who only want to control other people, and not only do you not need to listen to anything they have to say, but we should actively ignore them because nothing they say or do is useful or beneficial". I was having a hard time putting a finger on where the issue was until 57:20 "'I am listening, and I am learning' is a position of unquestioning acceptance of someone else's authority, an erasure of one's individual agency, that abusers, and ONLY abusers, want people to be in." I guess when applied specifically to a situation where someone is demanding that you respond this way to an assertion that you *know* to be objectively wrong, manipulative, or unfounded (or as close to knowing as one could reasonably consider themselves to be), sure? But how often can one reasonably assert that they're in that situation, especially within the framework of critical theory? I dunno, I just have a hard time reconciling "Question everything, including and ESPECIALLY what you think you know to be true, but you can probably write off this entire swath of people who do or say a certain thing as being completely unimportant based on your gut instincts and/or personal understanding of what you believe is correct." To be fair, it's highly likely that this is just a matter of not having personally experienced this much. I see WAY more leftists bitching about this behavior than I actually see this behavior. I almost never see this particular kind of "wokescolding" come up in the leftist spaces I tend to frequent. However I'm not on Twitter and never really wrapped my head around the concept of using Discord as a chat/forum, for example, and from what I gather this is a problem that tends to occur on Twitter and Discord especially.
@BIGBLUBLUR
Жыл бұрын
It's definitely a predominantly online problem. Something about being in online spaces brings the worst oit of all of us, or at least most of us with few exceptions. I imagine this comes from the fact that online communities and circles are born from purely shared interest or identity, whereas meat space groups and circles tend to have some sort of activities or goals to go with their activism. When you have some goals going alongside organizing your community, it gives the group a more united purpose, rather than the purpose itself just being talking to others that are like you. This is just an assumption though. Quite frankly I'm not part of either, but I'm making an educated guess based on my own experiences in online circles pertaining to mundane interest like gaming.
@FigmentImage1
Жыл бұрын
@@BIGBLUBLUR That definitely tracks, although I will say that most of my experience with other leftists is primarily online (due at least in part to a difficulty in finding local groups or organizations). But I absolutely agree that association without activism tends to create a weaker social bond, and probably lends itself to infighting and clout chasing much more than in-person organizing. At least part of that is probably thanks to the "infiniteness" of the internet. There's no worry about driving away potential allies when the pool of people you can reach and draw new allies from caps out at somewhere around 1/3 of the population of the planet. If you're working with a local group in person, you can literally *see* everyone who is willing and available to put their hands and heads into whatever it is you're trying to accomplish, and the size of that group is rarely going to be as big as you'd like it to be. The possibility of that small group shrinking due to interpersonal conflict is likely to outweigh both the desire to pressure others into certain behaviors, AND the tolerance of the group for those who would do so.
@Alice-rz6zi
Жыл бұрын
the shout-out to autistic trans women had me reeling LMAO
@izzyj.1079
Жыл бұрын
I feel called out lol
@ropeburngaming3380
Жыл бұрын
Never have I been more fucking called out
@pfzht
5 ай бұрын
🏳️⚧️❤
@sookendestroy1
Жыл бұрын
Yeah I've definitely seen the roots of conservative general mindset creeping into all aspects of society. Heck you had just recently people terrified of nuclear war, the last time people were so terrified of nuclear war neoconservatism sprung up and reagan of all people understood that fear of something was often much more destructive to society than the existence of the thing they fear.
@izzyj.1079
Жыл бұрын
Confession: I bought a gas mask and rad suit when that happened. I have OCD and anxiety on top of the social hysteria. Honestly still kinda wanna do some prepping when I have more budget and space because people are scary
@Rynewulf
Жыл бұрын
@@izzyj.1079 sound like a kinky shopping list
@jonahtwhale1779
11 ай бұрын
It was the left that stoked the fear of nuclear war e.g CND. It was the right that removed that fear for decades. It is the left that is propagating climate emergency alarmism, in contravention of the science, not the right. It is the left that forced through vaccine mandates, to save us all from covid. Then the left complained about Roe vs Wade being overturned on the same legal principals. The left does more than its share of fear mongering to force through its ideology!
@basedcentrist3056
Жыл бұрын
It's nice to see a leftist perfectly articulate the issues with progressives. It's been needed for a long time
@SoilentBeef
Жыл бұрын
The danger of reacting is that it leaves you on the defensive, insecure and afraid. Being hypervigilant has severe long term consequences for a person's health. Just look at all of the first responders, who become broken shadows of their former selves. Being conditioned to think everyone is a potential enemy is ubsurdly dangerous for both you and them. This kind of paranoia leads to people alienating neutral parties, and even ignoring or hurting those they are trying to protect. "We have nothing to fear except fear itself." - Franklin D Roosevelt.
@antonioscendrategattico2302
Жыл бұрын
I think that's not nearly talked about enough. A lot of discourse over this kind of tone policing in leftist communities is limited to the moral aspect and gets lost in the quagmire of trying to determine who's "the bad guy" and thus deserves to be yelled at (which as leftists is NOT something we should be doing in the first place). But in truth nobody wins when this kind of attitude is prevalent. Even the people doing the policing are just harming their own mental health.
@noriringtail7428
Жыл бұрын
Well, that's two for two on long rambling videos I agreed with completely. It's actually INCREDIBLY hard to reel this kind of behavior in- people will get so upset that others aren't up to their same level of inscrutable political theorizing and it's like, do you want a coalition or not?? Because these people are here and they're reachable, get over yourself!
@koh123453
Жыл бұрын
I was diagnosed with Asperger’s when I was young and then when I got into high school they told that the term is now “highly functional autism” this was when I actually learned that Asperger’s was actually even remotely related to autism. It was never explained to me as to why I went into different class rooms and received different forms of aide for education until junior year of high school. I’m now a 27 year old and still have no clue if there is anything I’m supposed to be doing about my diagnosis. It does not help to have constant bickering discourse over non functional or flawed semantics that have no tangible effect on the baring of the lives of those affected by being diagnosed as I have. Thanks for the video. It helps me get through my day in the warehouse.
@echoambiance4470
Жыл бұрын
I do appreciate you and your political takes, Burgerkrieg. I find that they often resonate with me, and you present them in a lovely, humorous and yet nuanced manner.
@ekkovaan2261
Жыл бұрын
Is it just me or did anyone else feel on a *viceral* level a "but" coming up... that then never came up...
@1e33n7
Жыл бұрын
@@ekkovaan2261lol uhmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm I personally didn’t but 💁🏻
@smiley4995
Жыл бұрын
Man it's weird, one day this strange bearded man showed up in my recommendations to talk about a bunch of vampire clans, then he shows up more to talk about a big stretch of other stuff with varying views all made up in a respectable way that is well thought out. Thanks for helping me broaden my horizon with each upload.
@blapamaster
Жыл бұрын
I love the video but hate the fact that you have to put the " I am a leftist " disclaimer speech in your videos cause someone somewhere might think " omg he didn't say he's a leftist before having a problem with some leftist he must be on the right " but a great video as always
@Hyperversum3
Жыл бұрын
The "biggest issue" as far as I am concerned in this topic is how people talk and discuss issues but don't actually engage with it or the people involved. Using as an example sex work, the discussion about legalization and depenalization (and criminalization, but that's another point entirely) has been around for ages, the main point being "which protects the most sex workers". In this context, an absurd amount of people like to throw themselves into the discussion, being all politically correct and "allies", supporting legalization and yadayada... Without bothering to read up the topic and seeing that many (most?) would prefer the depenalization model that some countries are currently enabling, as a strictly legalized one implies that *some* workers may end up in the illegal side, in particular those under control of pimps or that are illegal immigrants. My point is that these people, It doesn't matter if they do so from a position of true support or from a selfish performative position, both end up talking against the actual voices of sex workers. And to be clear, I am not saying that whatever someone in a category says must be accepted as 100% gospel (for example I still think that legalization would be the optimal way to go, if proper legislation is produced over protecting the rights of even illegal workers. The main reason why I still support legalization is taxes, sorry, not sorry), but rather than any partecipation in political discussion must come from understanding of the people actually involved in the topic.
@antonioscendrategattico2302
Жыл бұрын
Most people don't even know what the difference between legalization and decriminalization is, they think they mean the same thing. Hell, I did before I had it explained to me. It wouldn't be a problem if people could just learn to take criticism.
@Kris_not_Chris
Жыл бұрын
inside me are two wolves: one wants more of these political videos, the other wants more Shadowrun Lore videos...
@KairoStark
Жыл бұрын
Meanwhile, I am the werewolf, and I need the Werewolf the Apocalypse lore video because its also a critique against wokescolds...
@MrZauberelefant
Жыл бұрын
I think you can have both at once
@toataile6450
Жыл бұрын
Hey, uh, problem with the video. Baby Boomers were always largely conservative, and the silent generation was actually the one that did most of the heavy lifting with civil rights. For example, MLK Jr was born in 1929 which makes him Silent Generation. It's kind of a misnomer.
@Koijn2K
Жыл бұрын
From the title and the "disclaimer" portion of this video, i can already tell that this is gonna put into words, a lot of thoughts i have tried to communicate for some time... This is gonna be great.
@Frightful_Lag0
Жыл бұрын
I find myself going into depression and nihilism, instead of the zoomer, social justice side. I seem to just recluse myself
@GeneralEverywhen
Жыл бұрын
Obviously, every person’s journey is different, but I do wanna say that having a phase of deep apathy as one comes to be aware of the world around them in its current state isn’t necessarily a bad thing. Nor is it necessarily a permanent one. Your sadness is valid, but I want to believe most everyone has it in them to want to not be sad. And assuming you are one of those people, I say do both of three things. 1) Make peace with and accept your sadness. “Fighting” bad feelings cannot be achieved by rejecting them or trying to defeat them with equal amounts of apathy or good feelings. Only by accepting them can you move forward. 2) Do what made you happy as a child. Reconnect with what grounded you as a youth. What made getting out of bed worth it, since facing the day also meant getting to enjoy that thing. Be mindful of your wallet, of course. But do what you can. And 3) Watch more progressive stuff that empowers, rather than disheartens you. Channels like Positive Leftist News do a good job at that, but also stuff like TheBurgerkrieg’s own video on Minecraft and Skyrim mods, I feel, has a hopeful bent that can lead to more positive progressive attitudes. I think a knee-jerk reaction to nihilism is to want to shut all the news out for fear of bad news in one’s life/feed, but I think making strides towards more positive, non-ignorant messaging is more so the way to go. As shutting out the world just leads you to dwelling on your own thoughts. And while that can be good if you’re doing the aforementioned acceptance and simple joy-actualizing, ultimately, you want to help shuffle out the bad with new good, and that starts with taking in information and content that sets that frame of mind as more acceptable by default. All this is to say: Hang in there, friend. There’s at least one person in the world who hopes and wants for you to get through whatever you’re going through. And who honestly believes you’re strong enough to move forward through it. All the best.
@Frightful_Lag0
Жыл бұрын
@Arman Naziri while I'm not going to listen to any political based stuff, positive leftist or not. Not my style. I appreciate the encouragement. As a night person I seem to enjoy things more at night, walks, smokes, drinks, hell just breathing the night air feels better. I revel in the dark and dreary. But I obviously still want to feel happy and fulfilled. So how does an introvert, with no family or friends, asides from my child and partner (and mother in law), feel this? How can I just let my Trauma go from my shitty childhood? I didn't want to get out of bed as a kid, unless I knew I'd be alone, I would adventure in the woods alone for hours. I guess all that loneliness kinda caught up with me.
@Burgerzaza
Жыл бұрын
I think part of the reason this problem is so prevalent in our communities is that we're smaller than the general population, theres a feeling of pressure from the outside as a result of marginalization and oppression, and the fact our groups are unorganized, just anarchic social spheres. And this combination of factors makes it easy for bad actors among us to rise to positions of petty authority and try to set the narrative. I think as we attempt to move towards a society where our identities arent marginalized but accepted into the general population, sexuality, gender, and race becoming unstigmatized social constructs with little bearing on our actual identities, these kinds of people will no longer be able to use this identitarianism to claim power, and we'll all be the better for it. As a gay man in Oklahoma who has experienced very real homophobia in my daily life, I don't want people to pat me on the back and call me brave, I want allys that dont care that I'm gay, dont see me as an other in any capacity, positive or negative. My only stipulation for allies is that they should have our backs when shit gets real. And its typically not the praisers who are there when the shooting starts, those people just wanna feel good about virtue signaling to minorities. As innuendo studios eloquently put, in the game of national identity politics, minorities aren't the players, we're the ball. And its become a popular Republican position to hate us and conversely a popular democrat position to fetishize us. In both cases we lose our agency, and are just what other people prescribe us to be, neither side able to actually justify their view because they only hold it in perceived reaction to the other. And we have community Karen's that wanna be extra loud to decide which way the ball gets hit, so long as they get theirs. I've been in the furry community for a while and honestly I say out outsiders as a social science major, the furry community is the perfect microcosm of society to study the way people interact with a large enough in group to actually matter but enough of a stigma not to blend into the general population with the interest. And since the community began in the 70s, and I've definitely seen it since I joined in the early 2010s, the community is *full* of Karen's desperate for some perceived superiority and validation over others. Most people are chill, just wanna hang out, talk, watch pron, normal person shit. But these people, like oil, cant mix with everyone else because they're just not good people and rise above by stepping on others, using political positions, wealth, and derived group authority as a cudgel to beat their way into popular notice. I noticed this very early on, the people who could afford to be full time furries with massive followers on twitter, called 'popfurs' in the community are fucking weirdos and pretentious jackasses, and when people look into the community its always them being the first people they see. The furry community is also the only group where you can physically see class but that's a separate but related tangent. Thanks for making this video, I was nervous going in but I find your perspective broadly agreeable and applicable in our spaces. We should try more often to deprive moralizing busy bodies of oxygen when it's clear they're not good faith actors. This obviously coming with a circumstantial judgement call on the nature that comes with each individual case.
@nobodyofimprotance7615
Жыл бұрын
This feels like learning what's in the basement in AOT. Everything makes sense now, the way I view the world is entirely different, and its horrifying.
@pergproductions
Жыл бұрын
Man, this video is so cathartic. It perfectly articulates everything I've felt for years.
@botondhetyey159
Жыл бұрын
What first really slapped me in the face about PC culture was the leftie reaction to Jordan Peterson. I don't like the man. I think virtually no leftist does. But the group of progressives, who say they really do care about men, and men's mental health, while accusing JP of not really caring about that, cause he is not spouting the same empty "men should cry more" platitude well, for them to then turn around, and make fun of him for having mental health issues, and crying on camera, now that's fucking rich. It's like how morality works in Harry Potter. The action itself doesn't matter, when judging if it was moral, who it was directed to does.
@BIGBLUBLUR
Жыл бұрын
Yeah, the left has a pretty bad habit of showing its a$$ a lot, especially in the last 5 or 6 years, where it seems like a lot of their basic empathy, capacity for nuance and understanding seems to fall asleep depending on the circumstances, and clowning on JP for crying was one such instance. Sometime I feel like the only reason I'm not a right winger these days is because its more outspoken members are so blatantly and gleefully evil.
@SomeRandomGuy1098
Жыл бұрын
I appreciate you, TheBurgerking! What a good video. I was hesitating to watch it because frankly I was worried I'd see another cool youtuber take this stance when truly they're leftists but they actually don't give a damn about marginalized identities. Glad to see you do care, and your stance is about the same as mine and for many of the same reasons. I will say the usage of the flimsy "narcissist" thing had me questioning but upon thinking about it, I think you're sorta right in that a lot of the people who started to employ wokescolding were employing it to serve their narcissism. Most of the people who do it today are the types who seem to just follow unquestioningly whatever side makes the sexiest appeal to good morality, but the people who started it are basically social vampires styling themselves as monarchs within the rules they've created
@petehill7280
Жыл бұрын
33:15 No. The term 'political correctness' originated in the USSR in reference to the ideological messaging touted by the Communist Party. Political correctness as a concept has its roots in the left historically, and for any political progress to be made, that must be acknowledged, rather than using 'right-wingers' as some sort of stereotyped bogeyman (as I have FREQUENTLY seen left-leaning people engage in, even those I have sympathy for) that you can pin all of your problems on.
@Captain_Chair
Жыл бұрын
The communist party of the USSR was the right wing of the USSR.
@dannydanny2789
5 ай бұрын
@@Captain_Chair ... No it was not?
@racciacrack7579
Жыл бұрын
My favorite example of “gentler term” is POC. I assume “colored people” went out of date because it implies that whites are the base human and anyone else is just a colored version, but that is literally what POC means.
@brotbrotsen1100
Жыл бұрын
By now i even met people (mostly white) who deemed the use of the word black as racist. So what is it now, you can't even be specific anymore?
@mattd5240
Жыл бұрын
Which is why I almost never use the word, it literally means the same thing.
@Przemko27Z
8 ай бұрын
It's a weird thing, but I guess if that's what people are going with as the generally accepted term, I don't think there's much point in arguing against its use.
@masterdangles8422
Жыл бұрын
36:50 You did a very good job of expressing a big criticism that I have of the left. Being someone who does lean to the right, it took me a long time to realize that the stereotypical leftist you find in the interesting parts of Twitter aren't actually representative of the left as a whole. And I find myself often frustrated that folks on the left rarely address those kinds of people as being the problem that they are. It's part of the reason why I find myself repelled from the left. Thanks for the video bro, keep it up!
@M0b1us_118
Ай бұрын
Same here.
@bridgob5161
Жыл бұрын
I'm an autistic trans woman DONT CALL ME OUT LIKE THAT LMAO
@danielhuelsman76
Жыл бұрын
Leftism should be about democracy, equality, and anti-hierarchy, but if we don't fight the narcissists for that label, then it won't mean any of that.
@HennyESP
9 ай бұрын
It's like really insane how pople just don't think optics are important.
@MrQuantumInc
Жыл бұрын
Usually when people bring up examples of this it is from Twitter or TikTok, mostly Twitter, occasionally Tumblr back in the day. The limitations of short form anything do no favors to non-conservative ideas. With such a small space for each post you can only really refer to previously established ideas. Establishing new ideas requires videos longer than five minutes and text longer than a few paragraphs. Chaining multiple twitter posts or multiple TikToks is possible but inevitable awkward. Technically "previously established ideas" can include left wing ideas, but it is much more likely to work if they are conservative ideas, as most conservative ideas are simply the mainstream of the previous generation, and progressivism/leftism is often about dismantling those ideas. At the end of the day the left needs nuance more than the right, so why do we bother with twitter so much?
@picklefathernurgle2719
9 ай бұрын
Personally I think the next generation is going to shock both aisles of the political spectrum by not being as progressive as the current Left but also nowhere near as conservative as the modern Right. They've been bombarded with the madness of these two opposing sides for years now, and they're going to rebel against both. We'll basically have the whole "Trad" meme-culture they make half-joking videos about on TikTok, with its traditional gender roles and strict social boundaries in terms of identity, become the actual culture but with a more welcoming and inclusive take on things. It'll make the current-day conservatives crap their pants in rage at the acceptance of groups they've kept down for years while simultaneously mortifying modern leftists with its (in the modern left's terms) more "backwards" aspects. The fact that this generation, which has only just begun to reach its 20's (god I feel old) seems to be paradoxically old-school in their romanticizing of traditional family set-ups and roles for partners while also being very accepting of what many would call "marginalized" groups seems to indicate that they're going to be a very odd generation; not very left-leaning in some regards and not very right-leaning in others. The Male and Trans Housewives will ascend and both sides will roll over in their graves, so great shall be the outrage over this most unholy of Monkey's Paws. The Left gets its acceptance of marginalized groups and the Right gets its return to a more traditionalist culture with old-school family values, but both sides then have something they hate fused into it.
@joebonar
Жыл бұрын
Great video, good work. Hope it gets traction with some of the streamers who do leftist react content. Would be fun to see their reactions.
@evan12697
Жыл бұрын
They’d just call him a nazi for breaking stride even a little
@NopeNotHere.
10 ай бұрын
Makes me think of the lady I knew from the local music scene here in Seattle. She put a video up of her chasing down and harrassing a ticket meter monitor person, just screaming at the top of her lungs calling him a murderer. He was a little old man that looked terrified, maybe in his late 60s, early 70s. He was just trying to get away from her and she recorded all of this as she just kept chasing him for like 20 minutes. I just told her it's probably a bad idea to just chase and scream at little old men... She called me an anti-black, anti-minority, rascist pig, who only supports social justice for social clout. I didn't have the heart to tell her I'm native american. I guess she expects full head dresses and rain dances from us. Let her live in her own bullshit delusions...
@brutusmagnuson315
Жыл бұрын
I have a feeling a recent hashtag that was suppose to be a rallying call against hate crimes inspired this video
@oliverjanovitz3454
Жыл бұрын
W.r.t. combating fear. I think data does it best. Would highly recommend reading Factfulness by Hans Rosling - the core message being that the world has mostly gotten better YoY for the last century. Economic "crises" might be stress inducing, but starvation in Western nations is just not a thing anymore. I don't believe that embracing "conservative" positions is necessarily something that comes from fear of the unknown. Oftentimes there is substantive data to support those positions, or historical examples of failed transitions to socialist systems perpetrated (almost necessarily) by authoritarians. Finally, having a family and children specifically can and should make you more risk adverse - you simply have more to lose from radical changes to society.
@abortedlord
Жыл бұрын
I love you man, seriously. We have some disagreements on this or that detail I'm sure, ( I love me some guns and the carrying and use of and specifically for defense. Because when someone shows up to do damage, there is nothing *anyone* can say to me that will make me believe that it is better if *nobody fights back effectively*. Which apparently makes me the Gestapo on ice according to some people. ) but I'm glad you exist man. I get, so fucking pissed when I'm talking about things like this that I'm sure I sound like a crazy person. The "fat acceptice" fascism stuff in particular REALLY drove me nuts. I've been a fat kid since I was like 6, still am PLENTY over weight. But oh my god, when people started acting like it was morally wrong to even suggest *any sort* of physical health to someone I was like... you've got to be fucking kidding me. Your fucking knees don't lie about your state of health, I'm sorry. I will never be whatever medically nonsensical "ideal weight", I have accepted that it isn't in the cards. But you know, MOVING THIS SHIT AROUND is something that I take seriously, because being able to use my fucking legs to GO, can suddenly become PRETTY FUCKING IMPERITIVE DEPENDING ON WHAT'S GOING ON and diabetes is bad, mmkay? And the people suggesting that basic fundamental health was some kind of oppression SERIOUSLY made me so fucking furious, you wouldn't believe it if you were a co-inhabitant in my head. The suggestion that I was somehow harming people by encouraging them to be just a little bit active, suddenly meant I was the same as a "doctor" discounting their medical issues and chalking up observable problems in their general health to "weight" and writing them off is probably the most disgusting thing that has ever happened to me directly. Listening to you talk this out will have tempered my thoughts on this issue to some degree and I'm sure I'll be able to communicate on it more effectively in the future. That's the maximum amount of appreciation I can give, to go forth and be better as a direct result of this video. I *super* understand where you're coming from saying that this making a video like this is hard to deal with. There are days when someone else near me mentioning anything in the arena of politics just puts me immediately on edge and internally I am screaming for them to just shut the fuck up. So thank you, for putting yourself out there with this.
@RATZGobbler
4 ай бұрын
I always look at any method of thought and political view with one question. What’s the end game? With political correctness, the end game is that nobody talks about uncomfortable or controversial subjects anymore. So yeah. Conservatism. With Neoliberalism? Everyone can work as much as they want and get paid whatever their employer feels like paying them.
@handsomebear.
Жыл бұрын
I think a big reason people aren't turning to tradition as they get older is part because the world of human beings is changing at such an unprecedented rate but also because it doesn't _feel_ as necessary as it used to. A big part of traditionalism is upholding the family, community and society because they tend to be oriented towards protecting and nurturing the vulnerable next generation...which becomes more and more relevant the older you get and the more kids you are(or feel) responsible for, your own or kids in your immediate social circle. But in the west we have so many structures that at least on the surface appear to solve the issues that comes with nurturing and protecting kids. Traditional structures such as sacrificial gender roles(usually women focusing a lot on caretaking and men on competing with other men for scarce resources) are becoming less and less relevant as we outsource large parts of raising our young to institutions and we have easy access to basic resources such as a roof over our head and some kind of sustenance(even if it's in form of processed junk food) and are building more and more safety nets(even if they don't usually work to make people happy/content/accomplished). There's also the issue with your personal experience especially when it comes to jobs and "common wisdom" is less and less relevant to the next generation in this environment where things change so fast and is so fractal(in jobs in terms of specialisation and in social issues in terms of tribes), both science and social consensus keeps shifting and evolving at a rate that almost no individual person can keep up with or properly master in order to become an "elder" or a rolemodel or similar to the next generation or the one after that. This all, I think, contributes to the modern lack(or decrease) of that rising pressure that used to come with age of needing to care for the next generation via personal sacrifice...which also used to feel incredibly rewarding because you actually had something valuable to contribute with, experience and wisdom, which in turn made you feel accomplished and worthwhile and like your life had some kind of intrinsic meaning to it. All your struggles and sorrows now have a direct(from your perspective, positive) impact on the young in your life that you love and that love you and you can see how they're growing more and more similar to you, inducing pride and kinship...etc etc. The rise in depression and mental issues surely is connect to this as well, if I am at all correct.
@legendarygamer4545
Жыл бұрын
My friends assumed i was making a sexist/racist argument when i said i didnt like Shuri from black panther, without ever letting me get my reasoning in, they just assumed i was a bigot because i am white, i do not ever make those kinds of arguments ordinarily, so i have been a bit resentful towards them lately for assuming such a terrible thing about me.. im the only white person in the group. and to those curious, i didnt like her because she just felt like an iron man clone, both of their shticks is they are smart people who make super suits, havent seen black panther 2 yet, so im open to them expanding her character to be more, but that was the only takeaways i have had about her prior to that point, and i didnt care for it.
@evan12697
Жыл бұрын
Find new friends. I went to college with people like that and they’re not worth having
@IamCombustible
Жыл бұрын
The saviour complex is a huge commonality in the moral busybody community. I think a lot of people like this see themselves as guardians of their younger downtrodden selves. Could be why they're so quick to interpret innocuous queries or even just honest mistakes as underhanded nastiness. There's also an air of sadistic revenge about it for the same reason, conscious or not. It's got a lot more to do with making bullies upset than it does anything political.
@hemanthnair1290
Жыл бұрын
Or the thrill of getting to be a bully oneself at long last...
@antonioscendrategattico2302
Жыл бұрын
I think it's also definitely a byproduct of the general toxicity of internet discourse. Not nearly as many people will lie about what they actually believe and try to play stupid gotchas on you in real life, but on the internet? Every two bit moron with a stupid opinion and a keyboard feels like they're the goddamn Ace Attorney and thinks they will totally own the libs by saying "in minecraft" after wishing death on some demographic. And being exposed to a constant barrage of that kind of behavior will absolutely train you into a paranoiac ready to fly off the handle at honest mistakes because of how much you've been reshaping your neural pathways on a toxic environment.
@BulletTheEnforcer
Жыл бұрын
I’m a Black man. I am so offended and triggered by your commentary that I’m going to subscribe to your channel and watch your content. How dare you agree with the voice in my head! HOW DARE YOU! Seriously though, I thought that I was going nuts with all of this crud. I knew something was wrong when the person couldn’t explain to me why I was wrong.
@RonaldoLuizPedroso
Жыл бұрын
It is hard because any change precludes power but mostly power hungry people go for powerful positions.
@davg.2589
Жыл бұрын
Found in academia: Sexual orientation has a biological factor and is more of a spectrum. Gender identity is separate from the sex. Sex is not strictly binary, studies on intersex shows, it is expressed within a bimodal spectrum. Same applies to gender, but it has many other factors playing in, both some biological and a lot social/cultural.
@MhailAzure1
Жыл бұрын
"Puritanical Progressives" was the term coined by Zena & Poppy, Wholesome Degenerates. They have a series of videos talking about this problem and applying their experience as a therapist and a student of college therapy courses, and being older trans people in leftist communities to identifying these people
@WhiteZinfandel
Жыл бұрын
I barked out a laugh when you mentioned Sargon of Akkad, as that describes my situation exactly. I'm a moderate who recently abandoned a long-term presence on a certain liberal/left leaning forum almost entirely because of these specific issues and subsequently started listening to (among other things) Carl Benjamin's Podcast of the Lotus Eaters. I certainly don't buy into everything his outfit says, and I'm not stupid enough to put my experiences with shitty online leftists onto ALL leftists, but by god was it nice to hear people talk about the issues I've seen. I'm heartened to hear it from your side of the aisle as well. The funny thing is I was initially very resistant to watching your videos upon seeing the titles/thumbnails. At first it was "Dammit, Hunter: The Reckoning is NOT A PRODUCT OF SUPERNATURAL! They barely have anything in common!" Then I watched the video and rather liked it, along with your other TTRPG content. Then it was "Oh god, I don't want to know your ridiculous takes on masculinity and communism" except it turns out you really have quite good ones. I like your content, mate. I don't think you've got it all right, but I quite enjoy listening to what you have to say even when it's just explaining TTRPG lore I already know. Chalk one up for my willingness to test my assumption that you sucked, eh?
@choczynski
Жыл бұрын
39:48 NIMBYs are a real problem, but the last few significant improvements in my neck of the woods were blocked by armed right wing militia groups (Aryan renaissance, watchmen, and proud boys) So yes, but feel like nimbys are less of a concern for me right now
@xensoldier
Жыл бұрын
Commenting for traffic bump, love your content/ channel Burgersage!
@1234redwing
7 ай бұрын
I think the mention of Sargon is very relevant , I use to be a fan of sargon, I actually remember the point at which Sargon pissed me off to the point where I stopped watching him, when he called for a boycott of gender studies courses in college it was like "oh, you don't actually care about open discourse." I'd like to add, that while I found this channel through the gaming videos, I've just been watching the crap out of your videos because it feels great that to find a KZitem channel that I agree with politically that doesn't sound completely insane and/or manipulative
@verinha0256
Жыл бұрын
That seems to be a very online leftist problem (which, don't get me wrong, IS important to adress too)
@Biouke
Жыл бұрын
Oh, I saw some of that offline too.
@M0b1us_118
Ай бұрын
If anyone needs to find the timestamps of Burger’s thesis for reference, it’s between 2:28 and 3:38.
@Maxstate
11 ай бұрын
I don't agree that the intent of a word makes it offensive / bad. It's the context and power imbalance that can lead to actual indignity and economic and social disenfranchisement imho
@radaro.9682
8 ай бұрын
I work against this by fostering a curiosity about things that make them fealful in my kid. And I have, for years now, to integrate into leftist spaces. I'm neurodivergent as can be. And new people overwhelm me. I can over share and be rather intense when I manage to talk to anyone. I say stuff that gets taken as refusal rather than request for parameters or boundaries.. People are weird so I'm real selective with who I interact with now.
@jaccobbailey8247
4 ай бұрын
I’ve always hated these sorts of semantics-based arguments. Sometimes it’s valid, I’d say, and especially when it’s a discussion about how language affects our ability to explain ourselves and communicate (like how different languages create words that aren’t available in other languages to express something specific), but a lotta the times I’ve seen people try to use it it’s pointless and intended to just make someone feel bad in some way. It’s always felt like it’s explicitly intended to disrupt someone and then hold power over them with the language they’re using, then hold it over them as if you’re morally superior for using a different word….instead of just, like, actually talking to someone like a normal human being. It’s a method to hold a conversation hostage, practically, and it’s immature, nasty behavior a lot of the time Again, sometimes semantics are genuinely important, and especially when it’s in reference to someone’s identity or preferences, but when it’s something like the whole Asperger’s example, it seems pointless. It’s completely fine to have an actual discussion about naming conventions and the history of words like that, and eventually to change them as well, but trying to shame somebody for using a completely normal name or word is just kinda childish and embarrassing (unless it’s a clearly and culturally offensive word, in that case I can see an argument there, but not one where using that word is deserving of cultural expulsion basically; using the n-word back in 1990 doesn’t make you deserve to, like, lose your job or some bs I’d say, just like I’d say punching someone in the face at 19 doesn’t make you deserving of 20 years of jail time)
@DeceiverDawg99
Жыл бұрын
Fear truly is the path to the dark side.
@Andrea-ne8sg
Жыл бұрын
This video helped me a lot just in general with putting my world view into perspective. I thought I was crazy or something for seeing a lot of the things you pointed out, especially with abusive narcissists. I'm glad that I'm not alone in that, and as a close, I'm not autistic, but I am one of the trans women who peeks into your videos. Keep up the good work!
@yakirchernin6015
Жыл бұрын
I guess I am in relativly rare group of identity- I am an orthodox religiouse jew, but my leftist friends claim, my mindset is more marxist then their's. I guess in my case, being religiouse is the progressive mindset- my parents came from USSR, and they have fought for their jewish identity and the right to get to isreal, or even to learn hebrew. They sent me to religiouse schools, we lived in religiouse community, because this is how as a family we progressed into our identity, and they have ran away from the anti identity policy of USSR. I find myself open minded, and usually policitical and religiouse aligment were never a barrier for me. )Actually, often it is easier for me to befriend people outside of my "natural" community) Sometimes, I dont agree with you-but more often then not, I do. My polticial and all that might be very diffrent from you and most people here, but I am happy to learn very much from you. Thank you.
@s.m.g.2166
11 ай бұрын
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@venepskeuten9206
4 ай бұрын
"so you wanna get rid of the current reigning set of beliefs and values as they tend to dehumanize people?" "best i can offer is the same thing, but on a different side of the political spectrum"
@Puerco-Potter
Жыл бұрын
Can we agree that burger is getting buffer? My man is looking good!
@TheGrinningViking
Жыл бұрын
I'm going to get on Twitter to share this and share it again every time I forget that it's a bad idea to get on there.
@hazetur
Жыл бұрын
meanwhile im making carbonara with kochschinken and cream but without eggs
@Przemko27Z
8 ай бұрын
I feel like part of the issue here is the fact that while power-hungry or otherwise toxic people can exploit progressive principles, they're often also principles we should be striving towards. So it can be rather hard to draw the line between "a reasonable degree of having principles and standing by them" and "bullying". Especially since given that a lot of the matters concern human rights and such, anger can be quite an understandable reaction. What makes it additionally challenging to talk about is people really draw those lines very differently. What are pretty reasonable expectations of respect or basic facts (e.g. respecting people's pronouns or the fact slavery was bad) get called extreme all the time. Same for any kind of activism. As such talking about the topic too broadly can result in throwing some alright rhetoric/causes/people under the bus for optics. And sometimes, we do need to shut up and listen to people who know more about the given situation. Another issue is the mechanisms of telling adult people what to do and not associating with people who break those rules are also instruments of maintaining safe spaces. Like, I hope we can both agree that if someone is *actually* extremely racist, we probably shouldn't be friends with them and probably not invite them to a friendly group chat. And I think it's reasonable to have some degree of distrust of people that would associate themselves with extreme racists. Those tendencies are abused by petty despots, but imo they're also part of healthy social dynamics. I think a lot of the distinctions between "maybe harsh, but fair leftist critique" and "petty bullying" can be a difficult case-by-case thing and being this general might not be the best for making the point clear. Scrolling through the comments, I feel like this video appealed quite a bit to people who seem to largely see the left as the "wokescold" stereotype and I don't quite think that's entirely a good thing.
@heyheyhey1481
Жыл бұрын
Who else saw the bug at 27:35?
@thedragon8280
Жыл бұрын
I love this video. On a side note i would love to have a lore video dedicated to the Werewolf the Apocalypse Tribes :)
@TripleSBreakdowns
Жыл бұрын
Watching this video the whole time I was thinking 'This has gotta be about Shadiversity'
@philipbabb
Жыл бұрын
27:28 The bug! Thank you for posting this. You really have described the problem in society.
@Hallowoct313
Жыл бұрын
This is a good video. I enjoyed this take and hope more people get an understanding of this
@SpiralKingScorch
Жыл бұрын
I'm glad you made this video Burger, because it shows there are leftists that see that something is tainted with how left-wing cultural control is actually playing out; however, I do think you still miss a fundamental factor to being a leftist which causes a lot of the issue. Hatred and fear of "conservatives". So many of your own random statements simply fall into an overall message of " 'conservative' thing bad". The problem here is that so much of what drives leftists to go along with this abusive cycle you discussed is simply the fear of being seen as aligning with the right. The examples of Sargon or Ben Carson being perfect in the way you mentioned because you were still discussing them as vaguely villainous figures, within a overall discussion on how the left perpetuates toxic elements that leftists usually associate with the right. My worry here is that leftists will just try to disassociate this very human pattern of dehumanization, as if it's just right-wing. When the reality is that the left needs to take a good look in the mirror and see that they are just as capable of these terrible actions that leftists like to pretend only apply to the right. This isn't the new conservatism. This IS leftism, because it is human. Although, I think you're a bit late on admitting to this all. Saying that modern political correctness will be the new "conservatism" is just pretending it hasn't been around for a decade. In fact, I would go so far as to say this has been what leftist activist movements, and all political movements in actuality, have always been like. Welcome to the party.
@jmoreland4
Жыл бұрын
RIP Career. It was good while it lasted burgerbro
@dissident1337
Жыл бұрын
"The surest way to work up a crusade in favor of some good cause is to promise people they will have a chance of maltreating someone. To be able to destroy with good conscience, to be able to behave badly and call your bad behavior 'righteous indignation' - this is the height of psychological luxury, the most delicious of moral treats." ― Aldous Huxley There are also economic incentives to engage in this behavior, see Carefree Wandering and Peter Coffin. Carefree Wandering talks about how social media encourages the building of profiles in the post-sincerity era by reinforcing an established civil religion, and Peter Coffin talks about how these dynamics are funneled back into creating support for capitalism by relinquishing direct power to the capitalist state to act as the arbiter of justice.
@Zancibar
Жыл бұрын
You know, I'm still living as a cis man but I've been growing more and more convinced I may be trans over the last year and a half or so and whether I'm austistic or not really depends on which therapist you ask. Hearing about your channel demographics makes me feel oddly validated
@izzyj.1079
Жыл бұрын
As a trans woman, my advice is going to be, talk to an actual psych before you do anything, and noone else. Even then, play devil's advocate with everything they say. The result of exactly what Burger is talking about is that nobody gets questioned enough in exactly an environment where they should be. I shouldn't have gotten hormones in 2 appointments, dealt with a lot of imposter syndrome, and I'm actually really thankful I just happened to be an odd case because that could've fucked me up.
@Zancibar
Жыл бұрын
@@izzyj.1079 I appreciate the warning. I'm thinking on how to bring this up to my therapist. Once I do that I'll start actually looking for ways to effectively transition if I end up doing it but I'm not in a position to do anything yet anyway.
@FunctionallyLiteratePerson
Жыл бұрын
@@Zancibar Dont forget that even if you do decide you're trans, you don't *have* to medically transition! I don't know you so wont speak for you, but if someone doesn't feel uncomfortable with their body, a social transition is often enough. Hormones help a lot of people, but many just do it because that's what they're told trans is. You are valid with whatever decisions you make along your journey - whether that be HRT, surgery, social changes, or none of those things. I wish you the best in this possible journey of self discovery!
@B00Radl33
Жыл бұрын
I would like this video in chunks that I could share that were shorter than an hour. I love this video deeply. I don't know if I can even talk my wife into watching it.
@TheBurgerkrieg
Жыл бұрын
double speed. It's what I do when I watch my stuff back to check it for errors.
@AquaStockYT
3 ай бұрын
I think both sides have a worsening discourse issue and it's interesting how much it benefits the current structures and corpro-state systems
@twocansamm
Жыл бұрын
Burger: the first true Sockalist thinker.
@thelonesouloak1600
Жыл бұрын
I can't praise this video enough. Thank you.
@AofCastle
Жыл бұрын
Commenting for the algorithm gods. Great video once again
@pfzht
5 ай бұрын
Puritans, Puritans everywhere.
@fallofall1914
Жыл бұрын
I'm not really new to Burgerman but in 27:27, I'm see a bug crawling up his arm, across and up his chest then disappearing in his collar. You good bro?
@annointedbytalos5673
Жыл бұрын
Another banger from burgerkrieg. Now tell me did you voice in the how the us covered up Japanese war crimes video? Otherwise your evil half helped on the video and you could track them down, fuse and regain your former strength.
@heat_wave8385
Жыл бұрын
Still can't decide whether I love your political or "normal" content more, but I need to say thank you for being the voice of reason on the leftist side. While not being a true leftist myself (I mostly try to read sane viewpoints from all kinds of thinkers), I find that arguments from class-focused leftists like you or Freddie deBoer resonate with me a lot. It is a shame that the current toxic atmosphere prevents building coalitions both within the leftist camp and across the board, because it just upholds the status quo. In this political theater, the appearances of "progressivism" and "conservatism" are used to manipulate people who should know better, while behind the scenes all players mostly advance the interests of big money. I guess Occupy Wall Street was one of the last causes with a chance to succeed and rally people of all stripes, and it's all downhill from there. The more a movement is about identity rather than class, the easier it is for its members to feel good for being in the right camp without achieving any meaningful change. And the corporations love identity politics, because it lets them appear "progressive" and reap loads of money for free (last I checked, putting a rainbow flag on your Twitter profile costs $0). One thing that I would add to your analysis of language policing and power-hungry petty narcissists is how the media (more interested in shaping the narrative and getting clicks than honestly informing the reader, and also happy to serve big money by sowing discord) plays into that. After all, the "journalists" were seething when Matt Taibbi (who covered Occupy Wall Street and called Goldman Sachs a "vampire squid wrapped around the face of humanity" back in the day) dared to write about big tech getting cozy with three-letter agencies around state surveillance and silencing of "incorrect" viewpoints. Those "journalists" called him a right-wing propagandist - talk about speaking truth to power. But I digress and maybe it's a topic for another video, if you're not tired of politics by then. Thank you once again.
@2FINE4YOUBABYGIRL
7 ай бұрын
Excellent points were made, particularly the one about allyship. Allyship doesn’t equal submission or blind deference it’s the opposite. Well said.
@JamesHeier
Жыл бұрын
Got no clue how this will be taken: I grew up as a leftist, in a left-leaning moderate household. As I got older, I just became more and more critical of the things I was seeing and the positions that my family held dogmatically. I switched to independent, and spent several years voting back and forth along party-lines (I live in America.) Lately, I haven't been able to bring myself to vote on the left side at all. My brother is the same. The extremism we've seen on the left, the attacks we've dealt with, the number of friends I've lost simply based on the color of my skin and my unwillingness to repeat the religious dogma of the hashtag-left made it impossible for me to stay on the left. I tell people that the positions that I hold would have made me a classical liberal 30 years ago. Everything I stand for - freedom of speech, freedom of thought, freedom of choice, anti-war, anti-corporate greed, clean environment. All of those were leftist positions once, and now I get called a nazi and worse for holding those positions. I loved this video. I shared it around to all of my friends, so many of them are in the same boat that I'm in. This was a fantastic watch. But I am looking forward to more Shadowrun and WoD lore, too.
@jefflol3446
Жыл бұрын
I enjoy burger politics
@reallyanotheruser7290
Жыл бұрын
1:20:00 i feel you, i left twitter in november and reddit in december, stopped reading about alot of stuff because i cannot stomach it anymore. Not that im not depressed anymore at all but it was a huge driver of it definitely and im glad i made the decision. Great video!
@whispererindarkness
Жыл бұрын
reminds me of that person who was on twitter seething about the say her name hashtag being used in connection to brianna ghey. and they actually got people passively agreeing, "listen to black voices" "listen to black trans voices" blah blah doesn't matter how tone deaf and frankly psychopathic it is to play nitpicky word games about the wrong hashtag being used to talk about the murder of a trans teenager. though also, to be fair, a lot of people called that out, so i was happy to see that, at least
@voyagerrock1137
Жыл бұрын
I wish this video had a million views
@demonicbunny3po
Жыл бұрын
Before that disclaimer, I did have some slight concerns about your possible political beliefs, but there was nothing specific that made me go “I can’t support this guy anymore”. Now, my concerns are gone because we seem to be in the same general camp. Which, of course, means we will likely still loudly disagree on things because the left has a harder time organizing despite being the pro-union side.
@FraeuleinSeptimus
Жыл бұрын
I disagree on some conclusions. But I completely share the predictions and this is now my go to explanation for how social Group setting end up the way they do.
@marlowepup9863
Жыл бұрын
As a leftist trans girl who gets really passionate about all this, who calls myself a woke SJW (kind of an act of reclamation-- if the right are gonna call me that because I happen to be really into that equality and empathy shit), you're a breath of fresh air, and I'm glad your videos popped up when I was watching World of Darkness videos
@OMGwtfSTFUbrb
Жыл бұрын
omg this video needs to be seen by literally everyone
@OMGwtfSTFUbrb
Жыл бұрын
There was a time where i was in the sargon circle EXACTLY because of the things discussed in this video, now i'm a freakin anarchist when i finally stopped caring about what those narcissists think and instead follow my own moral compass.
@ghoulkinggruul7345
Жыл бұрын
While I doubt we would agree on a great deal of things politically or socially, it is nice being able to hear someone trying to reasonably outline the issues present within the current zeigeist.
@Bloodycupcake54
Жыл бұрын
I'm not a leftist but you seem legitimately self aware compared to modern leftist your credit union video convinced me to make the swap fuck the banks and I look forward to your next video!
@mrmeow2297
Жыл бұрын
another great video. You should join the second thought, hakan etc. crew!
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