If you livestreams your wedding it's a tax write off
@Dingusmaningus
7 ай бұрын
This guy knows a simple trick for a free wedding and the tax department hates him! Click here to find out more!
@jimbakes2782
7 ай бұрын
👏👏👏
@Pensivelyexpensive
7 ай бұрын
Probably just in America
@Dingusmaningus
7 ай бұрын
@@Pensivelyexpensive you can't trick me like that Australian Tax Office!
@KalousTheGuy
7 ай бұрын
😂😂😂
@alexharris6481
7 ай бұрын
Congrats on the engagement, Sandman! Thats amazing news dude.
@Yandarval
7 ай бұрын
Fun idea. From the Vulkan absorbing Waaagh energy. It would ne hilarious if he use the Waargh to "fix" the Golden Throne... So its Orks keeping it going.
@TheEarlofManwhich
7 ай бұрын
Or using it to instill into the astronomican a means to disburse what is essentially a human "Waaah" field. Therein the beliefs of humanity get immensely magnified and catapult the emergence of Big E into true godhood.
@nervesinapattern7261
7 ай бұрын
I love the idea of a Ork golden throne, just bits of rusted metal thrown together with nuts and bolts
@thatonegreenguy2842
7 ай бұрын
@@nervesinapattern7261Mechanicum Adept *on the verge of tears*: “HOW DID YOU FIX THE THRONE!?!?! TELL ME!!! Ork Mekboy, Painboy and Weirdboy: “It juz works, don question it humie”
@nilatienzagonzalez5845
7 ай бұрын
The Lion can't fall to chaos, but Jaghatai KHAN
@HEYDUDEITSTONY
6 ай бұрын
Get out! 😂
@djalylngapoutnouton2955
6 ай бұрын
😂
@texasfuneral4787
6 ай бұрын
Blasphemy 😂
@Archon3960
5 ай бұрын
No Khan do, son. 😉
@Yandarval
7 ай бұрын
Have a tiny Aquilla engraved onto the inside of Mrs Sandman's wedding ring.
@mindfortress105
7 ай бұрын
That would be very cringe.
@Yandarval
7 ай бұрын
@@mindfortress105 practically anything inside a ring is cringy. At least it’s less cringe than having a service with everyone in 40k cosplay.
@mindfortress105
7 ай бұрын
no it's not, nothing wrong with a cheat sheet for the anniversary date @@Yandarval
@TheSiladhiel
7 ай бұрын
Wow... you and boldemort, and maybe Amber king... doing a lore reading.. would be sweet. have each of you rep your fav factions in a 3 way story... orcs v hummies v necrons or something. Joined late... congrats on the engagement. Delighted for you and your future missus.
@nicholasd7107
7 ай бұрын
Congrats on the engagement bro!
@peterryczkowski
7 ай бұрын
I think valdor will use the balnks to stabalize the web gateway at earth. To allow the removal of the big e
@snoox27
7 ай бұрын
Perty definitely looks like tomas the tank engine. Abadon was instantly dislikeable. CONGRATULATIONS ON THE ENGAGEMENT ❤🎉
@mattstump7030
7 ай бұрын
Congrats on the Engagement!
@meateaw
7 ай бұрын
The thing about the warp is it is supposed to specifically confound logic. So perty getting tricked into thinking he can logic the warp is very in character, and obviously he gets screwed by it. The whole thing of the warp making you think it's your choice to try to win over chaos is their whole schtick.
@leonhardable
7 ай бұрын
"the thing about the warp is" NO. this is YOUR headcanon.
@jamesbaurus5928
7 ай бұрын
@leonhardable his interpretation is pretty in line with a broad spectrum of the lore and is hardly some niche theory. Making you think you're in charge whilst corrupting you is one of the core strategies of Chaos. Whether it be magnus, horus, lorgar, fulgrim, kor'phaeron, morty, or demon prince perty, twisting up primarchs and other important figures with an illusion of control is well established.
@leonhardable
7 ай бұрын
@@jamesbaurus5928 i know that this is one aspect of the warp (and the specific aspect even has a name) i was merely criticising his way of phrasing it. "the thing is, the warp..." is ALWAYS wrong, unless you're Kevin Rountree. He generalised Tzeentchs games for all of the warp, not only the 4 major gods but also onto gorrk and morrk, the emperor, corvus corax or the eldarii gods.
@Subject_Keter
7 ай бұрын
@@leonhardable m8, it was clear who he was refering about, i dont think any of the ones you stated would even do that beside Big E.
@headlibrarian1996
7 ай бұрын
My head canon is that Perty gets tricked by his Word Bearers (from the fires of betrayal...) tutor into performing the Iron Cage ritual, which he is told will fix the soul drain Fulgrim put on him. Of course it does, at the undisclosed cost of daemonic ascension.
@Mark.Matthews
7 ай бұрын
Oh my man, congratulations 🎉🎉🎉so happy for you both. I am disappointed that I didn't get to buy you a pint when you were up here in Scotland. Did you come to Edinburgh?
@BigBroKuma
7 ай бұрын
The same reason why everyone else loses against the Imperium 😂 GW do way too much dickriding
@phamnhat2925
6 ай бұрын
Imagine you could go into the 40k universe and defeat all demon primarchs by screaming Mortarion, Peter Turbo, Magnus, Fulgrim, Angron, Lorgar at the top of your lungs. That's how you defeat Chaos.
@PrancingGoldfish
7 ай бұрын
Hey congrats on the engagement!🎉🎉🎉 Heres to a happy future for you and the Mrs.
@jasonmyersOU812
7 ай бұрын
Hey Brother Lore Master, congratulations on the Engagement. The Emperor look after you both.
@bradfromthewell
7 ай бұрын
".. that would be the dream. She has said NO to that *sigh*" 😂 we all felt that. Congrats though mate 🎉
@Kobiska15
7 ай бұрын
Congrats bro!! Truly the best of wishes for you and the future spouse
@matthewlongmuir4537
7 ай бұрын
Fun discussion as always and congrats on your engagement! 🎉I’m surprised Scottish Ambrosia ( whiskey ) didn’t shield you from your ails! 😂
@wilsonkok4754
7 ай бұрын
Congratulations on the engagement!
@MichaelWhittaker-b6v
7 ай бұрын
YOU HAVE THE COOLEST VOICE EVER
@Sol-0T-hn5ro
7 ай бұрын
Congrats on engagemen brother, may your days be long and nights pleasant Solo-sweden
@T6Airsoft
7 ай бұрын
Congrats on engagement 🎉
@anthonybardetti7091
7 ай бұрын
Congratulations buddy. Just started listening to your videos and loving them.
@Kaiyening
7 ай бұрын
Congrats on the engagement!!
@Palachrist
7 ай бұрын
Abaddon said the emperor devoured Horus’ soul. I wonder what that was about now
@Subject_Keter
7 ай бұрын
Also it Abaddon, pretty sure he is lying to scare others.
@OfficialAaron
7 ай бұрын
I’m not sure this is the correct place to put this- but if you’re looking for someone to be a sort of back-and-forth sparring partner, who knows the lore like you know the lore, is well-spoken, well-read, has all the equipment to do it: It’s me. I’m your guy. I’ve been on the cusp of starting my own channel for far too long and this could be the perfect opportunity to really elevate the level of discussion here. I’ve seen the other co-hosts and they’re all great guys, I mean it, but you’ve got a massive knowledge-base and you’re so good at interpreting contextual subtleties and extracting meaning, that it’s very easy for you to outrun most people if you’re not super careful. I’ve lived that same sort of existence. It can be a bit lonely. But yea, I love how you aren’t afraid to speculate. Sometimes our opinions are quite similar and sometimes they aren’t. Regardless, I love playing the devils advocate and it would make for entertaining conversations. Furthermore, I’m an American and you’re a Brit. I’m telling you, we could make some absolute magic here. How many times have you watched Warhammer content and said “these guys have chemistry, this was a mature, relevant and informed discussion about X or Y. I was genuinely entertained!?” Not often enough. That’s the answer. What I’m trying to say to you Sandman, is that we could be the best in the world. Easy. If nothing else, we should at least chat about it!
@dontgetmarried
7 ай бұрын
Edit: Congratulations!!! 🎉🎉 I think it's going to be a shard of Magnus and not the actual Daemon Primarch Magnus
@richter6699
7 ай бұрын
Probably because theyre immortal, so they can actually be killed and still remain in the setting. Much harder to explain a loyalist being struck down without removing them from the world lol
@TheLiberChaotica
7 ай бұрын
@SandmanofTerra I would be very interested in a fun lore chat with you. I wrote, co-wrote and compiled the old Liber Chaotica, Liber Necris & Realms of Sorcery books for Black Library. I've also been a proof reader and lore sounding-board for Aaron D-B on a string of his books. I've just started my own Channel, mostly for fun, focusing on the Warp, Chaos, Divinity, religion, psychic power and "magic" in 40k. I have a wealth of lore knowledge, various long standing 40K theories and conspiracies from the early days of the internet, and other fun things like that. If you're interested in a chat, let me know. I am, of course, a fan. 😊 Congratulations again on your engagement. What a wonderful thing!
@FnRenner
7 ай бұрын
Being a wrestling fan means you are fans of characters. Only police can go to work and get away with piledriving someone and not going to prison. Until the last month or so I thought Brock with Paul E. had become the GOAT of WWE. All time in ring skills, signature wins at main PPV's (a HoF WrestleMania resume alone), number of big belt wins, impact in the wrestling world and outside, merch sales, fan signs and chants. By any metric, Brock with Hey Man! as his advocate was a GOAT to me...until I heard about the Vince thing and Brocks involvement. And I don't presume to know sh#t.
@MandoSki464
7 ай бұрын
It’s not that I dislike Abaddon because I actually find him being someone I’ve come to slowly like but I hate him constantly thinking he’s not a slave of the chaos gods when he is clearly as powerful as he is specifically because of them filling him over the top with their power which they can easily withdraw at anytime they chose. But I would love for that to happen and him have an awakening of a sorts where he doesn’t exactly become a loyalist to the imperium but almost like an unsung champion of humanity against chaos. But that’s just my opinion. Also hoping the iron lord isn’t a daemon. I feel like he watched Horus succumb to chaos and if Horus could then I doubt he’d think it couldn’t do the same to him. He’s a dick but atleast pragmatic in the extreme
@Shane-EzekyleAbaddon
7 ай бұрын
They have not done the resurrection and return of the prodical son (Hours) this only would make sense becase of the retconed lore and finally a true challenge for ezekyle Abaddon it would make sense playing on the biblical approach.
@nol6409
7 ай бұрын
The only reason why Magnus turned down redemption was because it meant he had to kill all his kids. Now that most of them are dust filled automatons he may be more open to it
@dean_l33
21 күн бұрын
Was that before or after his soul was shattered
@Whyred100
7 ай бұрын
Enjoyed the stream and congrats on the engagement Mr Sandman 💪!
@kenpie87
7 ай бұрын
Congrats on the engagement !
@MrZuriax
7 ай бұрын
Pls do a colab with Wolf Lord Rho. You guys are my favorites.
@tizbrandonzr1719
7 ай бұрын
Congratulations my guy and I'm up for a live stream, I'm based in the UK, read about 110ish books so I have a reasonable knowledge on things I am trying to find a discord link 😅 so if your still interested let me know champ
@SandmanofTerra
7 ай бұрын
My name is just sandmanofterra on discord
@tizbrandonzr1719
7 ай бұрын
@SandmanofTerra yeah I've found it now, thanks
@floorusmat
7 ай бұрын
Congratulations man!
@Habdabi
7 ай бұрын
Hey man just want to share my love, your content has been 🤌 the past year
@TheLiberChaotica
7 ай бұрын
Wonderful news! Congratulations indeed. 😊
@georgijcaikovskij5623
7 ай бұрын
Where are they losing when Chaos totally ownage whole galaxy,lol?
@MichaelWhittaker-b6v
7 ай бұрын
YOUR VOICE IS AWESOME
@SandmanofTerra
7 ай бұрын
Thank you!
@user-zd1qd5kz2c
7 ай бұрын
13 black crusades
@MrAbraxus666
7 ай бұрын
Lookin' snappy with the haircut my mans!
@lukefishlock2715
7 ай бұрын
Congratulations on your engagement 💍👍
@ralframirez700
7 ай бұрын
Congratulations!
@SoulessMud
7 ай бұрын
Congratulations Sandman!
@Vanguardw
7 ай бұрын
Congrats on the engagement!
@TheHornsofValmar
7 ай бұрын
Congrats on the engagement!
@m.k.738
7 ай бұрын
In the servants of Tzeench minds fantasy and reality are the same. One truth, one lie how do you known what really happens or happened.
@paulfiume6529
7 ай бұрын
O and congrats on engagement brotha 👏
@DeshHolmes
7 ай бұрын
Congratulations man!!
@mattstump7030
7 ай бұрын
It is interesting that the Alpha Legion is a 3 headed hydra yet there are only 2 Primarchs?
@Dingusmaningus
7 ай бұрын
After the age of strife they forgot how to count. They actually don't even know what year it is.
@pauljohnson6309
7 ай бұрын
Absolutely brilliant
@Wineblood
7 ай бұрын
Congrats on the engagement, hopefully she doesn't fall to chaos. I'd love to be part of the casual streams but I'm not far into learning warhammer 40k lore so there are definitely others who are more worthy than I am. I'd love to see clonegrim come up again and sacrifice himself to give the real fulgrim a chance at redemption.
@stewartbrooks9842
7 ай бұрын
gratz dude
@Nyctophora
7 ай бұрын
Congratulations!
@Happyface714
7 ай бұрын
Iskander knows plot spells
@Teyl1
7 ай бұрын
Congratulations on your engagement! Happy for you!
@MichaelWhittaker-b6v
7 ай бұрын
BEST VOICE EVER
@user-zd1qd5kz2c
7 ай бұрын
You push, that wh40k. Sir.....plz sir....abbadon, start a trend. You can do that. Abbadon. They make tbe enemy fake......now we ghotta fake enemy
@jeroenvermassen7629
7 ай бұрын
congrats
@45houndful
7 ай бұрын
Congrats
@thalastianjorus
7 ай бұрын
I can answer the question posed by the title without watching the video _(Which I am still going to watch, but yeah - )_ : Games Workshop has an extremely bad case of "Good guys need to win!" When combined with their misunderstanding that the "majority of their player base sees the Imperium as the good guys." Which... is not true. That said, however, they have had a horrid habit of making the Imperium _(occasionally the Eldar - as long as they are not fighting the Imperium)_ win. Whether or not it makes any sense whatsoever, and a few times even if they must retcon previous lore to make them win. It's an extreme reluctance on their part to alter the standard story format for any story arch. What actually amazes me is when they write things that make absolutely zero sense, by the rules of their own universe, to force a win for the humans of the story. _Even when the humans in question are corrupted, evil nitwits, and the xeno they manage to defeat has been portrayed as nothing but a protagonist. (Eldrad v Fulgrim)_ Basically - GW does not, nor have they ever truly, understand their fan base. They have a stupid concept of only releasing fan surveys, with questions about the LORE, in publications that only tabletop players will likely ever find out about. They rarely ever communicate with their Lore-Only fans. I quit _playing_ Warhammer almost 15yrs ago (3 daughters. Meh.), but have never stopped purchasing/reading the novels _(audiobooks, mostly, since MS had tried to take my sight bit by bit)_ Since then there have been 37 Fan Surveys that people could go give their opinions on upcoming lore changes on a site. The last 6? Required a "code" printed IN THE CODEX THEY LISTED IT IN. Did they post any of them on the covers, within the media, or ANYWHERE else? No. So - not only do they often not ever ask questions about the lore to the fans of only their lore... they blatantly began to make it where they obviously did not _want_ fans of their lore to comment on the lore. Considering the cost of one box of minis vs a soft back novel? You can see why. Just another pisspoor decision made based entirely on greed.
@angelotana3040
6 ай бұрын
Congrats, I'm always proud when a fellow nerd finds a good woman.....but don't let Jada get jnto any "entanglements" or else you might wind up punching Majorkill at Adepticon when he makes a bald joke about Horus. That wasn't great, but any chance I get to make fun of Will Smith, I'm gonna shoehorn it in, sorry. And a heartfelt congrats! On sealing the deal! Also consider Jaghatai as baby name, or Lotara, if a girl ;)
@MiddleAgedGuy73
6 ай бұрын
I wrote to Josh Reynolds on Twitter (X now I guess) and asked if he would let another author continue the clone Fulgrim story and I can't remember his exact reply, but he said okay. I would love to see Mike Brooks or Guy Haley bring him back. Guy Haley because he wrote Genefather and seems to have a good grasp of the characters and Mike Brooks because I just enjoy his writing.
@bartomiejvetinari4672
7 ай бұрын
Imagine Fulgrim's full name is... Bob 😅
@LeviThunderbolt
7 ай бұрын
Primarchs are like warp demigods, are there opposite equivalents? Sisters of silence souls are like opposite of the warp. They are like negative psykers. Are there primarch equivalents with negative souls?
@GreyAres
7 ай бұрын
Very complex arguments over nothing really... It was Stan Lee who said it better. Who wins the battle between Thor and the Hulk... It depends on the writer... And it just happens that Aaron Dembski-Bowden likes to generate overpowered characters that move spaceships with his mind for days (or it was weeks?) and give them importance by making them interact with other more famous and "powerful" characters.He generates hype that way so he can avoid the work of creating interesting stories. I like the way he handles words but his novels have always ended up being a disappointment for me because he does always the same crap. Its like the ultimate fanfiction 🤣🤣🤣
@mrbreck1
7 ай бұрын
Daemon primarchs have joined the Great Game of Chaos. If one chaos god grows too powerful then others will knock him down together. When daemon primarchs accepted the gifts of chaos they accepted the vulnerabilities as well. One may gain favor for a time but eventually if they do not lose due to vulnerabilities then his own brothers would intervene.
@jonevansauthor
7 ай бұрын
If they ever wrap up the Emperor coming off the throne, and Chaos or him winning, I think we can all predict if the good guys lose it's going to upset almost as many people as if they win. Possibly there's 75% of the audience who want the good guys to win, and 75% who want them to lose, and the overlap is people who will change sides after the conclusion regardless of what happens. ;) But personally, I'd be miffed if in twenty years from now there's still no completion of the arc and I'm staring death from old age in the face, and half the authors are dead because many are older than me. They can always do an Age of the Emperor and just get ChatGPT to create the new WH40K post defeat of Chaos world, which does appear to me what they did with Sigmar, from what I read of that (either that or they hired the people who rebooted White Wolf's World of Darkness setting and asked them for more of the same).
@p3BA
6 ай бұрын
I don't think Khan would ever turn to chaos. It might seem like the obvious choice but I think that his mind protects him from such a fate. He is very much the people's primarch; analytical, caring, honorable, ruthless and in many ways does not think too highly of himself. He is the most grounded primarch and therefore can't have a spectacular fall from grace. Khan would rather die an honorable death than turn for the sake of power, saving his legion or the imperium. So consider this: The most devout, the most self-centered, the most pious and the most vain are deceptible to chaos because such is the nature of chaos. Chaos has nothing on people who do not seek power. IF Khan would turn against the Emperor it would be a telltale sign that the Emperor objectively cannot be trusted to lead a humane humanity. And in that possible case I think the Khan would simply denounce the Emperor and NOT turn to chaos; he and the White Scars would go rogue.
@TheHaughtyOsprey
7 ай бұрын
Every time I hear his name it takes me a minute to remember that Lorgar is a primarch. He's just forgettable. His name sucks, too. Lorgar is a horrible name. Straight up he never crosses my mind. His legion is forgettable, and Tzeech, or however you spell it, is a pretty crappy chaos god, too.
@Ozzymandios
7 ай бұрын
ONE COMPLAINT 😢 I am not a member of anyones channel, however yours is the ONLY one that teases me with a video I cant watch😢 BOO I say!😅
@markrtoffeeman
7 ай бұрын
Angron just destroyed a planet and took out an entire Indomitus Crusade Fleet Indomitus Crusade Fleet Quartus. Now Excommunicate Traitoris He then tried to take on the Lion, and with the strength of The Emperor was defeated. To say they keep losing is wrong. The Imperium is fighting them to a stalemate on some fronts and advancing on others and in some cases, being held back
@Elderahn
7 ай бұрын
Because they have written themselves into a corner. By pitting the loyalist primarchs up against the Daemon primarchs, they can't have it end any other way. The Daemon primarchs can come back when defeated, so they get to hold the L in order to maintain narrative access to the Lion and Roboute. The Demon primarchs are not protagonist faction characters, they exist to challenge and eventually get defeated by the 'mortal' characters of the setting. Depending on your perspective and appeals, this could be a good thing, but for me personally it truly is treated far too binary now to be interesting. Practically every single time the Demon primarchs in Horus heresy or current timeline fight one of their loyalist brethren they lose, they lose, and lose, and lose some more. Completely tanking their villain maintenance levels and making them into Pre-fall-of-cadia Abaddon levels of memefodder.
@kianbehmanesh7775
7 ай бұрын
They keep losing because they have a built in resurrection method. If they ever won (actually kill a named character), the story might actually advance. That can’t happen.
@randybentley2633
2 ай бұрын
If the Emperor were to ascend to godhood, I do have to wonder if he would turn his loyal sons into his version of Daemon Princes so that the playing field could be evened up or turned in the valiant ones' favor...?
@andrewharper1609
6 ай бұрын
A thought on collars of Khorne. They're supposed to be psychic wards, so would it be possible that if a blank is killed by a Khornate the soul is given to Vashtorr to make a collar of Khorne? It makes logical sense although it would need considerable retconning.
@thegreatwhitegoat2882
7 ай бұрын
In the Book Horus Rising. It's mentioned that America was known as Merica. But its an ancient empire. It's mentioned when they are playing a form of poker in the beginning of the book. Correct if wrong.
@newgamer85
7 ай бұрын
Plus other than the Emperors sword. Killing a demon primach does nothing because they can always come back.
@Treydog
7 ай бұрын
Congratulations on your engagement! Happy for you brother!
@onionhat745
7 ай бұрын
Because this is grimdark and in grimdark the good guys always win. Chaos gets dunked on by everyone in 40k.
@admiralhorde4809
7 ай бұрын
With the ai, couldn’t you just have the ai change words without changing the meaning of the sentence? Because I’m assuming copyright protects the sentences not the but not the overall… just a thought
@scythebergon418
6 ай бұрын
Dude I'd be down. My mic is decent and I'll read anything you send me!! I also have studied tons of lore and personally love the tabletop game. Lol
@RandomBalo
7 ай бұрын
I thought i heard you say "The Nickelodeon Spear". That's part of my head canon now
@Subject_Keter
7 ай бұрын
Warp is real powerful but also.. it the warp, you got hooks anyone can pull in to yeet you back or shoot you with. It like if you can go invisible if you cover yourself in gasoline, shit is bound to go down.
@sylph4252
7 ай бұрын
America is still there, because mount Rushmore is still there. The figures carved in rock are believed to be ancient warrior kings who were instrumental to the creation of the Imperium
@RJM1319
7 ай бұрын
On the clone Fulgrim part, is it possible to find a powerful enough grail to inhabit the body?
@kinguchiha6212
7 ай бұрын
There’s far more Black Templar fans than there are Black Legion lmaoo he killed Sigi so ofc most of the community is gonna hate to guy to hell and back
@LeviThunderbolt
7 ай бұрын
I feel like instead of the khan and perterabo swapping sides they could become neutral instead.
@JohnDuclos
7 ай бұрын
I would love deep dive a topic and discuss it. I’m a teacher by trade so I think I’d make good conversation. ❤
@AAC1714
7 ай бұрын
As much as I love streams I do believe streams kill your interaction overall cause KZitem
@radlad5999
7 ай бұрын
Because they can be brought back, so they turn into punching bags for any character that's in need of character development
@alanwalsh5961
6 ай бұрын
Don't think a Primarch that fought in the Siege of Terra could/should fall to Chaos.
@mattstump7030
7 ай бұрын
If one of the Lost Primarchs actually died in the Rangdan Xenocides, then I wonder why the Emperor didn't bring them back.
@whichDude
7 ай бұрын
Vulcan actually dies from orbital reentry. Emperor immediately brings him back. Ferrus dies extremely early in heresy. Emperor: "Meh." Emperor plays favorites HARD
@zackthejuggalo9358
7 ай бұрын
If you’ve lived for centuries and came across countless daemons how in the hell can they remember all them names I’d need a Minnie flip book
@MrJameslupien
7 ай бұрын
chaos space marines and their primarchs lose repeatedly because the forces of the imperium fight as a united force who all cordinate and fight as one. The chaos space marines hate each other and will go out of their way to stab each other in the back fighting for power and dominance and their own selfish ambitious. And the gods that empower them also use them to attack the other 3 gods forces.
@alrikvas5679
7 ай бұрын
What if a Blank spoke a daemons true name? Would they have power over the creature, or would their negative imprint in the warp prevent them from having power over them?
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