I loved how Guido's voice actor had a thick Italian accent! Gives the performance a weird and nice touch of realism, somehow. Great vid overall!
@joeblaine3202
3 жыл бұрын
It's amazing how something given little thought about today can have such a rich history.
@oiartsun
3 жыл бұрын
As a 12 and 13 year old in the school band, I had a very hard time sight reading anything and any kind of switching between clefs threw me way off. There I would be, frantically recapitulating "every good boy does fine," "all cows eat grass," etc. and scrambling to position the trombone slide. Sheer misery. So when I see the very unfamiliar clefs like the French Violin clef, it still strikes me with an irrational fear.
@ldgaming4213
3 жыл бұрын
Cue alto clef 😂
@Robobagpiper
3 жыл бұрын
Interesting choice of pieces for demonstrating the change between bass and tenor clef - Bach’s 6th cello suite was composed for a cello with a top E-string, probably a violoncello da spalla, pushing it extremely high for a cello piece of the era.
@monicacall7532
3 жыл бұрын
Thank you. You forgot to say that cellists read music in 3 clefs(treble clef too)-4 (alto clef) if you play old, old manuscripts of Boccherini and other 18th century composers. I will be sharing this video with my cello students and colleagues.🎵
@drandrewmitchell
3 жыл бұрын
Same for trombones! Bass is most common, then tenor clef, then either alto or Bb transposed treble (alto for classical, Bb treble for brass band)
@oletjugen8495
3 жыл бұрын
Tenor voice in "modern" music is usually indicated with a G-clef with a little "8" on the bottom to indicate that it sounds an octave deeper. Sometimes a doubled G-clef is also seen, but that is about as rare as the baritone clef.
@ericcoughanour3226
3 жыл бұрын
Which btw is the one that guitar music uses as standard, except the little 8 is rarely notated under the G clef.
@adriantsang3838
3 жыл бұрын
Not only in “modern” music, but most tenor lined in satb stuff
@douglassmith3119
Жыл бұрын
very cool. Thanks for your channel being so educationally oriented.
@BadViola
Жыл бұрын
Guido's accent is en pointe. 😂😂 This was so informative, thank you. I used to write music in sort of neumes when I was in college and didnt want to forget an idea.
@timsarsany1582
3 жыл бұрын
Would love to have seen the various vocal clefs: soprano, mezzo-soprano, tenor 8ba clefs, but I know this is an orchestra site
@fdarchives_
3 жыл бұрын
15ma and the 8's below and above the clefs is about all that could be added. Ty again for a great video
@lumipakkanen3510
3 жыл бұрын
Very interesting! Guido's voice actor could use a pop filter, though.
@oae
3 жыл бұрын
Sadly, no pop filters in the first century
@Qermaq
2 жыл бұрын
@@oae Wasn't he around in the 10th or 11th century? I mean, they had invented panty hose and wire by then. ;)
@Archiekunst
3 жыл бұрын
Someone once told me it's G clef because it's called the Grand clef owing to it being the principal and the F clef is the Follow clef because it supplies harmonies. What utter nonsense, and I believed it for a while.
@halduncolak9025
3 жыл бұрын
Hahah the logic is understandable and may work to a point but yeah it's false
@aronasmundurjonasson3175
3 жыл бұрын
And funnily enough, the G clef wasn't much used in the past, the C clef was much more common. Soprano singers used to read C clef instead of G clef!
@GerdEichler
3 жыл бұрын
I missed the C1 clef in this video. It was the standard clef for the Soprano singing voice from the early renaissance until the mid of the 19th century and then was more and more replaced by the g clef.
@ViktoriousFlutes
3 жыл бұрын
8:15 I wish the composers would do the same for flute to make the music more neat lol
@cesarvidelac
3 жыл бұрын
Good video, but I would have liked to hear about the "Ut Queant Laxis" and the latin name of the notes like Guido did, and why the northern countries (predominantly, with the exception of Germany) stayed with the letter system. Great work, love this channel!
@sleepydrJ
3 жыл бұрын
Great video
@michaels7889
3 жыл бұрын
A really enjoyable presentation. That particuar Bach example transcribed for viola takes it into celestial ledger line zones, a limitation sitting between clefs perhaps!
@jiafeiskinnyproducts
3 жыл бұрын
I believe it is still played by a cello? Violas don't really use bass or tenor clefs
@michaels7889
3 жыл бұрын
@@jiafeiskinnyproducts What I meant was that parts of the transcriptions I play pile on the ledger lines for the alto clef. This was in response to your comment that clefs were devised to avoid it. The general belief these days is that the 6th cello suite was composed for an intermediate instrument sort of between a cello and the viola. I haven't seen a facsimile score so don't know which clef that was written in by Ana Magdalena. Sometimes we use bass clef for impromptu transcriptions but indeed I have never used the tenor!
@buttercupaz1
3 жыл бұрын
Most informative, thank you.
@AmanBathla
3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the wonderful information....God Bless :)
@Moonless_Future
3 жыл бұрын
My habit of blaming longstanding musical conventions on Guido of Arezzo remains unchallenged.
@alsatusmd1A13
3 жыл бұрын
You’ve missed the mezzo-soprano clef. I have thought of a prospective tribe of wind instruments which overblow non-integer intervals. My plan for the families (obviously there are going to be clarinet forms of them because ”Violin” is the reed stop of the pipe organ that inspired the names of the bottom 21 voices and it works like a clarinet) is that it is going to go in steps with this series with the secondary series, whole and partial tube “altissimo“, being in minor keys (the standard version of this series being a reed instrument in Am, Bm, Cm, Dm, Em, F#m or Gm) and the tertiary being a fourth or fifth higher (in spite of this, they will default to being chromatic): **Piccolissimo in A~Garklein in G **Piccolino in F and Eb **Piccolo in D~Violincellissimo in C *octave 5* **Violin-cellino, -issimo in Bb and A **Violin(c)ello in G and F Sopranissimo in Eb~Violino in D Sopranino in C4~Violissima in Bb3 Soprano in A~Mezzo-Violissima in G Mezzo-Soprano in F~Violetta in Eb Alto in D~Viola in C *octave 3* Tenor in Bb~Violoncellissimo in A Baritone in G~Violoncellino in F Basset in Eb~Violoncello in D Bass in C2~Violone in Bb1 *Great Bass(et) in A and F and Contrabasset in D~Violonissimo in G, Eb and C *octave 1* *Contrabass in Bb and Great Contrabass(et) in G and Eb~Contraviolonissimo in A, F and D *Subcontrabass(et) in C0 and A-1~Subcontraviolonissimo in Bb-1 and G-1 As you can see, the voices of this plan mirror clefs from a theoretical super-thirteenth French (violin) clef all the way down to a theoretical sub-eighteenth subbass clef.
@angelicamartacahyaningtyas9083
3 жыл бұрын
What do you mean ”Violin is the reed stop of the pipe organ"?
@KorKhan89
3 жыл бұрын
Really interesting! Thank you so much!
@dctrbrass
2 жыл бұрын
Me in my undergraduate studies: "fine, I understand why now....but I still want everything in concert pitch" lol :)
@BCSchmerker
3 жыл бұрын
+OrchestraEnlighten *The C clef, which would be ideal for contralto and tenor parts, has, sadly, fallen out of use for vocal music.* The French-violin staff would be ideal for a sopranino, the subbass staff for the contrabasso; but neither sees much use in vocal scores nowadays.
@TheMaestro2005
2 жыл бұрын
Bach’s Cello Suite used alto and soprano clef in the upper register originally, at least according to the copied Manuscript.
@RyanAlexanderBloom
3 жыл бұрын
I tell my percussion students all the time to basically ignore the clef entirely because non pitched percussion music is routinely written in every clef except moveable C tenor or alto type clefs. There’s no rationale or pattern. Composers just pick a clef out of a hat.
@MrInitialMan
3 жыл бұрын
So what did the A, B, D, and E clefs look like?
@MrInitialMan
Жыл бұрын
@UCWv9c9j14_ibs_S1_8SKGdA Do you recall what book that was?
@WizardOfDocs
3 жыл бұрын
Could it be that G was chosen because it’s the fifth scale degree (since F and C were chosen based on their positions in the C major scale)?
@natheniel
3 жыл бұрын
You can always use the treble G clef for the high register in viola
@mmmeixner
3 жыл бұрын
The G clef (and all the others9 is much older than the major scale.
@d.e.p.-j.7106
3 жыл бұрын
You may have already covered this in another video, but I was wondering when different pitches were described by letters A through G. Apparently that was some time before Guido.
@wiebemartens1030
3 жыл бұрын
But now, we live in a world with Orchestra of the Age of Enlightement videos After Guido (AG)
@Qermaq
2 жыл бұрын
Guido actually started that too. Look up "The Guidonian Hand" on Wikipedia to get started.
@peterjohnson4932
3 жыл бұрын
This was fascinating. I'd known about the Alto and Tenor clefs, but not the others. Thank you so much!
@tanglewife
9 ай бұрын
How anyone sightreads for stringed instruments is beyond me! It's all very well telling me to play middle c, but which of the 5 do i play on my guitar?! Hybrid tablature is the only way I can sightread for any fretted instrument.
@JasonPruett
8 ай бұрын
why is it shaped that way looks like 6 and 9 and 5 ?
@richsackett3423
3 жыл бұрын
Guido has terrible microphone technique. Not a surprise, really.
@xanth592
3 жыл бұрын
It's funny that Cello needs tenor cliff to cut ledger lines, but flutes are just fine with a ton of them
@TheMaestro2005
2 жыл бұрын
That’s because flutes spend a lot of time in that register, cellist do not.
@TheMNBlackBear
2 жыл бұрын
Which clef is used to signify the human voice?
@Qermaq
2 жыл бұрын
All/any of them, depending on who is singing!
@TheMNBlackBear
2 жыл бұрын
@@Qermaq Good point.
@vannigio6234
Жыл бұрын
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@musicwithsimon2659
3 жыл бұрын
Funny how they made Guido speaking in an Italian accent. That was brilliant!
@toddsterben6647
3 жыл бұрын
The French violin clef & bass clef are pretty much the same.
@user-74652
3 жыл бұрын
Well, two octaves apart.
@toddsterben6647
3 жыл бұрын
@@user-74652 Notes on the same lines. If you can read bass clef, you have no problem with french violin clef.
@chessematics
2 жыл бұрын
When you still watch clef videos after writing 3 symphonies 😂
@TiagoLageira
3 жыл бұрын
3:24
@hdibart
3 жыл бұрын
You played examples of music in different clefs but can a LISTENER really know which clef it was being played in?
@ss1063
3 жыл бұрын
Not really, no! Clefs are really there for the benefit of the performer to be able to read the pitches of the notes easily.
@Qermaq
2 жыл бұрын
I know, they should have included examples of notation in each case.
@johnjoyce
3 жыл бұрын
Oh. the inappropriate stereotype of a native italian speaker speaking english… naughty
@amgemin
3 жыл бұрын
Did they just make Guido d'Arezzo speak Staten Island English few centuries before Italian and Modern English came to be?
@ThreadBomb
3 жыл бұрын
Maybe get someone who's better at public speaking.
@carnanya
3 жыл бұрын
Maybe you should specify why exactly it is that you think their speaker should be replaced instead of just giving no indication as to why?
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