I think one of the worst things about sym is that almost everyone is so opposed to her being buffed, as she’d “take over” or wtv, but she’d literally just be playable to non otps??? I feel like anyone who plays sym plays only like three dps max, and she’s almost never played by people who don’t focus on her as their main dps pick
@funkycrawler619
4 ай бұрын
You can literally tell people playing Sym just to troll and "prove" she is broken by just holding W Key while begging their Mercy to pocket them LMAO like I'm sorry fam, you can do the same thing and more with literally ANY other character so you're not winning the argument that Sym is broken
@joshuafenty5621
4 ай бұрын
The three DPS In question being some combo of Mei, Sombra, and Echo, so true Lol.
@icefiredragon94
4 ай бұрын
@@funkycrawler619 that happens to me all the time, even when the mirror is incidental. So funny when i diff them too the idiot goes soldier or bastion
@-NoNo.
4 ай бұрын
honestly i’m getting sick of people using the “skill” argument for balancing. like my brother in christ i promise you that the majority of characters people play aren’t very skill intensive or require massive amount of inputs to get things done. it’s always the hitscan players too like dude all the hitscans are super simple and super easy to the point where they basically play themselves. i’m tired of balance being gate kept by “skill” when that in itself is somewhat subjective. what i mean by that is that people will say that we shouldn’t buff mercy despite her being the worst character in the game by far but then in the same sentence say we need to buff reinhardt despite both of them having low skill floors. it’s this type of picking and choosing that annoys me so much because these people don’t really care about balance they just care about characters that they like.
@funkycrawler619
4 ай бұрын
You ate, and just to add, I remember when the "moira issue" came about, it was more so an argument about "skill ceileing" rather than "skill" which I feel people forget about,
@Darcyoostburg
4 ай бұрын
them Soldier players! such an easy basic character that shreds from all distances!
@-NoNo.
4 ай бұрын
@@Darcyoostburg idk if this is being sarcastic. but if you are then yes, soldiers is quite literally one of the simplest and most easy characters in the game. he’s literally the training simulation character when you open up the game for the first time. he has aimbot for newer players to use him and he has a heal to be self sufficient without supports. his bullets are also hitscan and were buffed to be bigger by the season 9 patch making aiming easier. he is an easy character by all definitions of the word
@elodiestoes7633
4 ай бұрын
Like these be the same people talking about “buff junkrat” then in the same breath talk about sym being “easy” and doesn’t deserve buffs because of it. Like what are we doing? 😭
@-NoNo.
4 ай бұрын
@@elodiestoes7633 it’s pure hypocrisy from the overwatch community.
@saigyoujiis
4 ай бұрын
as someone in a lower rank, I can definitely attest to people confusing “annoying” for op, especially as someone who enjoys playing said “annoying characters” (sym and sombra) .. it’s such a shame that everything has been reduced to “skill issue” or “quit complaining,” it’s ruined everyone’s ability to have a real conversation about the game, especially when skill levels are different for various characters. “skill” isn’t all about aim, it’s about positioning, movement, mechanics, hell even creativity when it comes to these characters, since there’s so many combos you can experiment with! it’s so disappointing to me how every smidge of a creative kit is automatically struck down because people don’t immediately know how to counter them, or they think everything in the game is supposed to be a free win (and lo and behold, you see this from hitscan players the most) venture being nerfed was practically what cemented it for me, since they were already pretty balanced in my book-you could dodge their ult, their combos, and just maneuver yourself out of their way and you’d be fine. but people think that everything in the game should be handed to them on a silver platter, that it’s just point and shoot, so any character that requires a bit of thinking like mei, junkrat, sym, or venture are automatically put on the bench. and this isn’t even taking into account how mercy is constantly ignored in terms of balances yet is *CONSTANTLY* marketed by the OW team with her skins and twitter posts, it feels like an insult to the mercy players atp. neither the fanbase nor the devs take their own game seriously and they don’t consider anything beyond themselves, but we as a community should work together to make it better (edit: sorry to make this long comment even longer, but I think another way of describing blizzard’s way of balancing is like.. when a kid gets in trouble in a classroom and the teacher punishes everyone else INCLUDING the kid, even though they weren’t really doing anything. that’s mostly what the 2 week symm + mauga meta reminded me of anyways. I’ve got a lot of thoughts on it but I digress)
@funkycrawler619
4 ай бұрын
I did feel Venture ult felt annoying at times but honestly, it literally was just cause I hadn't played against them that much now I'm like fine lol like Venture is a better Version of Doom 1.0 IMO like once their CDs are gone they are pretty vulnerable but you ate especially with the Mercy talk cause like the way ANYONE with a braincell knew the Mercy Mythic was the moment they needed more money is hilarious
@icefiredragon94
4 ай бұрын
Preach! You're right about all of that. The general fanbase just want wins handed to them cause lord most play like they aren't trying to learn fps basics. Also of note, the current head looking over balances was the lead one in Hearthstone previously. God imagine fps characters bring judged like a digital ccg
@coreyinthedryer7368
4 ай бұрын
personally i also feel like Mercy also has been ignored / worked on in weird ways both Sym and Mercy seem to just be shoved away bc they’re “easy” and their balancing isn’t taken seriously (by devs and community) bc of that perceived skill like mercy rn SUCKS and the only good place she’s in is during the 3sec GA era where she healed MASSIVELY but once that was taken away she felt kinda bad from there both Sym and Mercy need some good changes ro their kits or to keep up with everyone else bc it’s tough out here i want triage back personally for mercy
@crowquet56
4 ай бұрын
Her Triage passive would be PERFECT with how her healing is now
@funkycrawler619
4 ай бұрын
Idk about ur last comment but hot take, you aint wrong LMAO like why are heroes needing buffs in a new DPS passive/HP meta so hated
@dorrianbrooks9408
4 ай бұрын
I'm a Sym/Support main who's come to the realization that I enjoy projectile characters over most of the hitscan, I genuinely feel like they have a vendetta against Projectile characters as a whole, and Sym is among the ones who get the short end of the stick the most often. The Healthpool change made all of them so fucking bad, and even the buffs they've given out afterwards have catered towards hitscan DPS. It feels like projectile players gotta scream for buffs, and when we get them, our characters are deemed as too strong simply because they aren't trash anymore, and to the devs that means they need to be nerfed
@D3v1ut
4 ай бұрын
Your statements make a lot of sense. I think a lot of the problem is, too, we're battling a lot of people who want to play this OW FPS like COD, and they don't understand that the variation in the type of characters is what drew people in to begin with, so the catering to the MOST boring characters (hitscans you can find in every effing FPS) does not surprise me. I came to play this game because I think projectile characters are so fun and unique, and I cannot stress enough how much I HATE COD, so watching the game slowly devolve to that...I'm about to call it quits. I'm tired.
@icefiredragon94
4 ай бұрын
@@D3v1ut pretty much said the same thing a long time ago. Most players honest to god want to play this like COD if the way people act in comp (till gm) and free play tells as much. When i realized Blizzard also had a hand in modern COD games...made sense and i hate it lol
@cloudy978
4 ай бұрын
I mean recently they merfed venture because apparently they were too strong yet sojourn can delete your healthbar from miles away in a second. Yup balanced. And I am sorry it's so easy to look onto a direction and press right click. If I lose a comp game because I am playing bad I can swap to sojourn and basically win for being mediocre on her. I do play a lot of tracer because she is fun but i also don't like playing her because certain matches I get destroyed for entering a eoom or I just stomp the ennemy team. It's ridiculous. I had to drop my main mei because she was so hard to play in s9. I picked her back up but it's crazy how hitscans are favored so much right now. Sojourn has been meta since the launch of the game and only dropped in pickrate for a little bit because people thought she was gonna be bad but aparently a 190 dmg laser is pretty strong still !
@funkycrawler619
4 ай бұрын
Venture is a better version of Doom 1.0 and I honestly think the nerf was a bit too fast given like...people just needed real time to play but I WILL DIE ON THE HILL SOJOURN CAN GO. Im so sick of her, and yes, the DPS passive benefits her WAY more than others just cause she has insane finishing power.
@xalandriel6071
4 ай бұрын
@@funkycrawler619 People were just to dumb to learn Ventures Kit and to notice their weaknesses lol When them had the trial weekend I was loving Venture and played them a lot, many ppl in the enemy team complained about Venture being to fcking op (even my friends cried for that when they got roasted by a Venture... They just dunno how to play against Venture lmao) Even when they got released, many ppl were complaining but nowadays nobody cares really anymore 1st: Venture got nerfed (I just dun like playing Venture anymore, sorry :( ) 2nd: People learned what is good and bad against a Venture
@funkycrawler619
4 ай бұрын
As a Sym main, I die on this SIMPLE HILL, that the fact that OW refuses to balance individual heroes around the NEW DPS passive is horrid. Im sorry, I personally do not think the passive is bad, but I will say A LOT of Heroes need to be tuned with this new passive and they refuse to do so which is why I hate the balance rn.
@Wiillump
4 ай бұрын
Symmetra is also in the most boring state ever. You can't hold spaces, you can't 2 tap, you can't beam, you can't make team plays (nobody plays together) and you lose the 1v1 to half of the roster even with TP, turrets and stuff. Pharah is also strong as hell rn especially with mercy pocket, so even if you manage to do great against her your team will most likely struggle with her unless your 2nd DPS is a God. I honestly don't think Symm needs a rework but if they're gonna keep her like that because tank players struggle against her and some people find her unfun to play against then they should just rework her, because rn is boring playing with and against her
@funkycrawler619
4 ай бұрын
honestly, everything you said is tea except Pharah cause Pharah is so bad rn
@ravenr0cks
4 ай бұрын
TRUEEEE. Like, it is impossible to win a 1 v 1 verses a Cassidy, even when they don't headshot you
@Wiillump
4 ай бұрын
@@funkycrawler619 she literally isn't
@funkycrawler619
4 ай бұрын
@@Wiillump Literally she would be fine if they didn't take away her ability to stay in the air as she did lol but they did. Hitscans were enough to always keep her in check so removing her flight was un-needed.
@Wiillump
4 ай бұрын
@@funkycrawler619 in exchange she got more mobility and a combo that can basically 1 shot all squishies with mercy pocket (which is 99% of the cases). On top of that her rockets are massive and for some reason go it's speed buffed. she's now a junkrat but good
@N3wy0rk-xoxo
4 ай бұрын
Thanks to you, I’ve become a symmetra main 😭✋🏾
@_timothy_b-once4979
4 ай бұрын
everytime I go sym, and the enemy goes pharah and I cry everytime :n
@mrjh2021
4 ай бұрын
it's so true what you said about tracer/sojourn. i have crazy hours on beam queens Mei and Sym and after a rough past two seasons i finally seriously picked up sojourn and its like the gameplay loop is so insanely easy and simple compared to Mei and Sym. just off angle, don't die, farm rail on tank and click squishies. it's honestly been kind of frustrating lol. its sad the state thoughtful heroes are in right now. every game is just a tracer/sojourn/bap snooze fest. we appreciate all the content so far just do your thing and take some time to do you
@theaterhobo
4 ай бұрын
"Oh but Tracer has so much depth. She's always meta, every single season, but it's deserved 🤓". I'm sick of this. It's crazy how all 5 of my main picks across all roles are bottom tier this season.
@innocenceloss
4 ай бұрын
it has been said that 2 dps characters are getting reworks. one being a male character and the other rework not being known just yet who it will be. but with the data mined voice lines, i have a strong feeling the second dps rework will go to sym.
@crowquet56
4 ай бұрын
I'm pretty sure the first one is Reaper.
@jumpywizard7665
4 ай бұрын
Killed Mei, Junkrat, Symmetra, Mercy cause ‘they don’t take skill’. They’re just catering to the masses at the expense of the core gameplay mechanics and like half the hero pool. They want it to feel good to hit your shots by making everything else feel terrible. I personally don’t mind Tracer that much but Echo and Sojourn are the embodiment of everything I hate with Overwatch 2. Sojourn is literally a soldier and widow hybrid with crowd control and insane mobility. Sojourn and Symmetra existing in the same game is insane (sym was here first hun 💅). The game just keeps getting watered down to appeal to more people and as an og high gm sym main it hurts 😭
@independanttrainee39
4 ай бұрын
Hello, I just wanted to say thank you to talk about that because actually, most of Symmetra OTP are Main Healers, and you inspired me to make a rework of her, I hope you will like it, btw I keep her turrets as they are but I’m pretty sure their damage would be nerfed :( Symmetra is a Support hero in Overwatch. Photon Heal (Passive) Type: Passive Ability Effect Type: Area of effect Healing: 32 per second Area of effect: 16 meter radius Symmetra continuously regenerates health of nearby teammates. Photon Projector (left click) Type: Weapon Effect Type: Beam Damage: 85 Headshot: ✕ Ammo per shot: 5 per second Ammo: 100 Reload time: 1.4 seconds animation Max. range: 12 meters Move. speed: −7.5% (slow) Projectile radius: 0.275 meters Symmetra’s weapon emits a ranged beam. Photon Shield (right click) Type: Ability Effect Type: Self/ Targeted (allies) Health: 75 overshields Ammo: 2 stored Duration: 4 seconds Max. range: 50 meters Send a surge of energy to a teammate or yourself, temporarily regenerating shields when in danger. Sentry Turret (LShift) Type: Ability Effect Type: Projectile (before deployment)/ Beam (turret beam) Damage: 30 per second Headshot: ✕ Ammo: 3 stored/ Max 3 on the field Health: 50 Cast time: 0.22 seconds for throw + 0.28 s. recovery for shoot ~1 second (deployment) Duration: Until destroyed or replaced Max. range: 12 meters (turret beam) Move. speed: −15% (slow) Projectile speed: 30 meters per second Symmetra launches a small turret that automatically fires speed-reducing blasts at the nearest enemy within range. Up to three turrets can be built on the battlefield at once. Teleporter (E) Type: Ability Healing: Regenerates 50 overshields per second, after avoiding damage for 3 seconds Health: 150 health 150 shields Cast time: 0.8 second (deployment) Duration: Until destroyed Max. range: 30 meters Area of effect: 2 meters (interact range) Symmetra places a temporary teleporter exit pad at a distance and connects it to a teleporter entry pad at her current location. Allies (and some of their abilities, such as Junkrat’s RIP-Tire) can travel from the entry pad to the exit pad instantly. Photon Barrier (Q) Type: Ultimate Ability Health: 4000 Duration: 15 seconds Max. range: 25 meters Area of effect: 484 m × 50 m Symmetra deploys a massive energy barrier which prevents ranged attacks and is big enough to cut through the entire map. Ability details: • After cast time starts, there is 1 second recovery period where Symmetra cannot use her weapon. • Can be placed from anywhere (including from the spawn room), since it covers the entire map. • Orientation can be changed by pressing the Ultimate key again (like Mei's Ice Wall).
@elodiestoes7633
4 ай бұрын
I love these types of videos! And agreed with you on all the points you made. I just find it so weird how sojourn tracer etc haven’t gotten touched or nerfed to the full extent that Symmetra has gotten. Like they’ve both been the strongest from day one yet once sym gets buffed she immediately gets nerfed a week later… I’m honestly so tired. hope everythings okay tho lev!💜 take the time you need.
@Abstractor21
4 ай бұрын
I really enjoyed listening to you, talking about her horrible state. You made me think about the fact that maybe support symmetra could be interesting. I think she could heal with M1 kind of like Moira in mirror watch. And healing turrets. You have two ults like sym 2.0 Shield Generator or TP. And the protective barrier too. Could be interesting
@ninethreefivesix
4 ай бұрын
I feel like I've been gaslit into thinking Tracer is supposed to be some high skill hero when she's never been that hard and now with the dps passive and health buff she's 100x easier than ever.
@funkycrawler619
4 ай бұрын
She has a high skill ceiling to be fair, but she benefits insanely high from the DPS Passive and Health/Projectile changes to the point that the devs are completely stupid if they think she isn't the definition of broken. To your point, yea Tracer is more easier than ever and whatever nerf they gave to her wasn't what she needed since she STILL is Broken (and also no one ever complained about Tracer until now because her skill ceiling is high but she just is too easy to get insane value now).
@BahtataT
4 ай бұрын
I LOVE WHEN YOU TALK, PELASE TALK MORR
@queenjunko7033
4 ай бұрын
“Skill issue” is the lamest & laziest argument and I can’t wait for the day these player’s characters are deservedly nerfed (IF Blizzard actually cares about the balancing of their game).
@thenamelessdusk
4 ай бұрын
season 11 Torbs no longer has turret he now just throws a beach ball Sym no long has turrets or a gun she just stands there Mercy now damages her team instead of healing them junkrat now shots snowballs that deal 1 damage (I'll take my cater to low rank check in the mail blizzard thank you)
@meep2107
4 ай бұрын
OMG HEY KINGGG IM HAPPY YOURE BACK!! Just make sure you’re not pushing yourself :3
@hezelia
4 ай бұрын
This isn’t about Sym, but it’s about her friend, Weaver. There’s this new buff where they made Sigma’s ult not being able to be countered by Weaver’s tech now. Like, they love removing the fun out of Weaver mains, whoever are left of Weaver mains anyway.
@ThePhoenixQueen1124
4 ай бұрын
They had an idea for a support Sym in the alpha/beta of OW2 where her turrets would heal instead of damage and honestly if they did a little tweaking to the AI of the turrets, gave us shields to give our allies and make Sym a shield supp it would work really well. I still don’t know why they ditched the supp Sym idea I would’ve loved it. And honestly girl I wouldn’t mind if you made videos about other games. You’re genuinely enjoyable to watch regardless the game. Don’t force yourself to play OW if it’s causing you burnout. Burnout is sooooo dangerous 💖
@Peerinday
4 ай бұрын
They can just give symmetra shield generator back at this point Love you Lev❤
@gutnachte
4 ай бұрын
I have some ideas to balance Symmetra. I want her back to being a support because she's a lady of order and it's weird that she's in the frontline dealing the damage. Symmetra Primary Fire No longer deals damage. Aim and hold it to your allies to reduce their damage taken. Ramp up over time and can be carried over to other ally that's about to die. Secondary fire Only deals like 50 damage at maximum. But now pierce and heals allies that passes through the orbs. Turrets Can now hold like 6 turrets. Reduce cooldown to 5 seconds per turrets. No longer deals damage, but now slows and reduce ultimate charge of enemies affected by it. Teleporter Allies that passes through it will get healed by 100 HP now. Ultimate Shield Generator is back. (Why record all those voicelines for nothing, right?) Ultimate can be changed to her current ultimate. Pretty neat i think. I would implement it immediately if i was in OW development team 😂
@icefiredragon94
4 ай бұрын
Lev hon, take a break or do other content you love if you need to. Especially don't worry about the latter i feel lot of us LOVE hearing you talk if you decide to do so for other games and stuff. OW hasn't really been in a good state for a long time so i get the drought. Just very thankful i found you cause my Sym game got soooo much better thanks to you compared to the guides the usual content creators had for her. You're cool and hope the best for all of us in the future too
@FuzzyDuck789
4 ай бұрын
I sort of agree with your statement about support but there's some support where no matter how well you play, You're heavily reliant on your dps and tank. I main Mercy (GM2) because my average ping is 160ms but I can no longer 'carry' games because the healing is soo bad and if your dps are bad then what value you get with damage boost. The past 2 season I've been playing Lucio, Zen on 160ms and it's been soooo much easier. I'd like Mercy to get some sort of buff/change because she only works with like 2 team comps (In higher rank), but yeah In the higher ranks all you see is kiri, Lucio, zen and maybe Ana, the rest of the support heroes are kinda useless and tracer has a big impact on that
@cantin8805
4 ай бұрын
Honestly the balance issues were always a thing even in Overwatch 1 . THATS why many players left the game at the time of OW1 and even when OW2 came out. This game exists for years now and yet they are unable to make it playable for some unknown reasons.. The players are tired and I can understand why so many of them left the game.
@D3v1ut
4 ай бұрын
I switch to Sojourn when I'm doing really bad with Sym. She is so easy to pickup and go. It's annoying that I'm always the "thrower" because I want to stick to Sym.
@user-zi5yy3xx3e
4 ай бұрын
Levin! I love the way you play Symmetra and edit your vids, I learned how to play Sym watching you and Harmony’s vids. Funnily enough, I was watching a Bastionmain vid with Harmony(?), and that led me down the rabbit hole of learning how to play Sym and that’s how I found you. I also enjoyed playing Sym during the buffed week, until they nerfed her 🙄 I hope you’re able to play for yourself, have fun and take care when you feel like you’re burning out. Honestly, I take a break from ow2 for a couple of days at a time but I enjoy watching you and other ow2 players because of the skill and the memes. Please play to have fun and enjoy yourself, don’t let the shitty players get you down. ❤️ If I wanted to watch the boring ass meta, I’ll watch OWL(it was a snore fest, I cheered for every non-meta team I saw). Btw, since they’re buffing Hanzo and Junkrat, maybe the Sym players gotta band together and petition blizzard to balance Sym 🙏
@henkprenkxd2227
4 ай бұрын
I dont mind characters being overpowered for a while, it just sucks that its always the same couple that are the strongest
@jackcurtis
4 ай бұрын
I agree with all of your points 100%. I honeslty have so many opinions about this game, but my main one is about sojourn. Sojourn has NEVER been a “bad pick” or even close to it. When she was literally meta in season 8, they BUFFED her. She has never once been bad or even just mediocre. They are so scared to really shake up the meta and actually try out different characters being good. They loveeeeee to dance around situations instead of actually doing something beneficial. Tracer has been meta from the START of season 9 and she got a tiny nerf at the start of season 10 when sym was meta for not even a week and was nerfed almost immediately. The devs so obviously (to me) have favorites when it comes to who is good and bad and it is getting extremely tiring and frustrating.
@larisdupa3522
4 ай бұрын
Girl, I don’t watch the current meta in overcum and I’m literally don’t care, cause for me meta - play character that you like and enjoy. So you inspired me to play SymMicroWave and wifestealer and I start enjoying the game, cause I stopped play meta champs or take dps that I don’t like, but they can help our team and bla bla bla! Thanks for your advises 💋
@The-hamster2471
4 ай бұрын
I’m sad that people are gate keeping Sym when they are the same people who have been crying for rein buffs.
@lian7092
4 ай бұрын
woooo , sym streammm
@sas4367
4 ай бұрын
Tracer is the wobbling of OW2. I dont even like smash bros that much, but it's best analogy i can think off.
@popsicleblues6569
3 ай бұрын
Honestly like the idea of support sym so much better but the game has already really hardcore decided its going for healing supports only ever since they literally booted no heal supports like her out of the category lol. It'd take a lot more work to fucking shoehorn healing into her kit and it'd make it feel really awkward unless they actually did just give her shield generator back and it just gave everyone quickly regening shield health. For actual changes though i think she may unfortunately need to drop one of her weapon offence buttons for a protection one like most supports, unless we just go back to her being able to give people shield buffs like way before lol. Idk which one but I'd say laser would prolly be the best to go since if she only had that as an offensive tool she'd kinda be toothless outside of melting tanks. Honestly i think if she had a right click that blasted a charged wave that healed and shielded multiple allies would be interesting. For turrets its ofc always give her more or make them tankier lol. If they lowered their damage and made them slow more it'd fit more with a support kit and if the cooldown was a lot faster she wouldn't need more or tankier ones tbh. Lastly as a wacky change, to keep her feeling more sym and not just another heal support, i think it'd be interesting if passing through her ulti shield gave you 50 hp shield that would refresh every time you passed through, kind of incentivizing people to weave in and out. Since she's taking up a slot of a healer i don't think it'd be too broken tbh with the crazy amount of healing an anna nade etc can do on a much lower cooldown. Overall just moving the focus of her abilities from doing damage to high utility would honestly be more fun. I don't play this game to point and click, there are plenty of other games where thats all you need to do lol
@magicchi
4 ай бұрын
Mama, kudos for saying. For spilling.
@Phantom-z9y
4 ай бұрын
I am sick of tracer now as a Mercy player now, like honestly did the need to buff her damage that much and to top it off they don't like to buff mercy at all.
@tamooz6649
4 ай бұрын
I wonder if shield gen will be on a new support
@Cytryz
4 ай бұрын
Why not just make beam/ball shots deal dmg and on allies lesser heal. If they have shield or full HP, then gives overhealth at a greater rate. Making it stronger on shields baked into regular hp heroes.. Ball blaster more dmg, beam less BUT still amps up against shields.
@gucciraider6986
4 ай бұрын
I'm so tired of the Tracy meta and seeing her every game when I play I already find it hard to enjoy ow after they rework/gutted Sombra and got rid of the best part of her kit (placeable translocator) because it was "annoying" then replaced that power with the garbage that is virus... Like a little more dmg potential doesn't make up for all the power they removed from her survivability She's just not Sombra anymore
@arnoldomendoza5664
4 ай бұрын
It’s so tiring playing her, even though I was top 500 on sym IT WAS SO TIRING. Everyone else can do what she does sm easier
@sjfarias96
4 ай бұрын
I hard agree with you on the first point. Blizzard needs to stop babying people in the lower ranks and stop balancing the game around them (I say this as a lower ranked player). I don’t want my hand to be held, I want to get better on my own. Blizzard should to do what games like valorant do. In valorant, riot balances from the top down. Meaning they focus on what going on at the highest levels of the game(the top ranks as well as pro play), and balance the game based on that. They look at the complaints of lower ranks and basically say skill issue, maybe blizzard should start doing the same.
@Squip_
4 ай бұрын
Yeah I agree I’ve been playing since 2017 like 😭 I’m just now getting burnt out and it’s a mercy mythic!!!!! Likee🥲🥲🥲
@amirkasimi4743
4 ай бұрын
We love u from France 🇫🇷
@Mr0126114
4 ай бұрын
I feel like they need to bring back the faster reload passive I feel like overwatch was more fun than. I don’t like this new dps passive they’ve introduced now that it’s back at 20%
@waynewilson3580
4 ай бұрын
The one season in syms entire life she was in a meta and it's with muaga and they think she needs to be nerfed too not the character that has two Gatlin guns n a self heal that's a tank somehow and doesn't block shit unless it's with his broken ult that makes no sense
@Elijuhh07
4 ай бұрын
Definitely felt the burn out from the game, just hasn't felt enjoyable so i stopped playing. Take some time yourself bb and we'll be waiting for your return🥹
@alonelytuba
4 ай бұрын
and now they nerfed venture and they’re kinda dookie
@vyrekxd4971
4 ай бұрын
In my opinion changes (buffs/nerfs/reworks), need to be decided on what is the most active and most big “base” of the game, like if a lot of people are bronze, then changes should be made around bronze since is the majority of users, but that has some issues as well, because if blizzard decides to change using the little top and champion user base then its not really what “the community wants” (Im a diamond 1 player on every role, last season master on dps)
@vyrekxd4971
4 ай бұрын
I also hate how “high rank” players tend to dehumanize lower rank players just because they are low rank… i mean, low master to high gold are the majority of users in the game, they should have more of an important opinion that the lower userbase, just because they are low rank doesnt mean they dont get a choice on what makes the game fun
@horrorkid5045
4 ай бұрын
If youre low rank you have no idea how the game works, otherwise you wouldn‘t be low rank. Why would anybody want any game get balanced around that , just because there are more people in low rank? That‘s like balancing the rules of basketball around the kids that play basketball ,because there are more kids than pros
@andrikoch8875
4 ай бұрын
Hitscan / Metaheroes fundamentally arent hard to play, thats why theyre meta. Theyre good and easy to play thats why few people play sym and are actually high rated on her. Easy,good heroes are so forgivable because you can do whatever you want and get away with it because again, theyre easy and have the kit equipped to do stupid shit... its braindeaf and sad so many people are that stupid that they dont realise this or al i wrong?
@Thzdim
4 ай бұрын
Can someone explain why I get Dps's that do nothing in the whole game? I am not saying final stats like 20/15 or 10/6 I am saying like 1/6, 2/10 or 17/17 , and it's over and over and over and over again, every game. I just can't have fun anymore playing this game, I feel that every effor I do is for nothing. (I have screenshots to prove that I am not making up this.)
@lumynas
4 ай бұрын
6:30 *Caugh* Samito *Caugh* *Caugh* Metro *Caugh*
@jm4050
4 ай бұрын
add Jay3 on that list too
@1knightstands
4 ай бұрын
Some of those shield generator voice lines sound pretty AI and not fluid like a person talking imo. Thanks for all the info and entertainment as always
@q_yrko9067
4 ай бұрын
disagree. current meta isn't oppressive and it's very diverse. DVA is meta, if DVA is meta all beam-weapon heroes have a chance against her. Trace has a high skill floor but maybe not that high skill ceiling. Symm has both high skill floor and skill ceiling. Sojurn has a low skill floor but also high skill ceiling (everyone can do something on Soj, but a top500 sojourn is something else). I really don't feel the game unbalanced and I think counters are nerfed too. I main Reaper as DPS and I rarely switch to fight Phara or Echo. I just change my playstyle. Edit: I'm talking in general, I don't want to invalidate your sentiments over Symm, I can't compare my knowledge on the hero to yours. Some heroes aren't on the spotlight right now, like Symm, Junkrat or even Reinhardt, but that doesn't mean the game's utterly unbalanced. Especially after the Orisa nerf lmao I think all the OW2 new heroes ecept JQ are overcooked, not stats-wise, they all have been aboundantly nerfed, but the design. New heroes are designed without weaknesses (LW, Ramattra, Sojourn, Kiriko, Venture). They have vulnerability windows (mauga at launch didn't have them) but they have no weaknesses or counters. How do you counter Sojourn or Ramattra? This is a creativity flaw. Junkrat, Reaper, Rein, all have clearn weaknesses that makes them counterable. Echo was the first no-weaknesses hero. Moira too in a way, but at least she's very punisheable. I don't know where I'm going with this but I know I'm right lmao
@GarnetDust24
4 ай бұрын
1:23 SCREAMINGFGGGGGGFFJ but ntm on sister echo she’s perfect. About symmy, I find it very suspicious that certain heroes can be meta for season upon seasons but symm can be strong for a week and then they nerf her to the ground immediately.
@funkycrawler619
4 ай бұрын
I like how you said Strong and not meta cause everyone acted like she was and she really wasn't lol but you know Tracer/Sojourn can just exist....
@MHP_FR
4 ай бұрын
WE LOVE YOU LEVIN
@smixit2043
4 ай бұрын
i completely agree with on ur stance on how the "balance changes" that blizzard has done were definitely catered to lower ranks , and it sucks because its so taboo to talk about how ppl in lower ranks are in lower ranks for a reason :,) I LUV U LEVIN
@cloudstrife9188
4 ай бұрын
I(as a metal rank player, plat 4), can attest to these changes being for the low ranks. Low rank players confuse annoying for OP(Sombra, Sym, Mercy, etc). I'm slowly running out of characters to enjoy. I no longer play dps bc sym sucks, and sombra is situational. I cant play mercy anymore because shes just a throw pick at this rate, and my last character is Kiriko(She deserves to be nerfed, shes too good). One of these days I might just quit or never leave vs ai because blizzard cant balance heroes correctly. Also why does tracer never get nerf? Its dumb that she's the golden standard for dps because not all characters are dive. As a console metal rank player shes in every game I play. I'm never able to play Mercy bc of it. Id honestly love support sym, I never played OW1 but with Illari in the game there is some hope for healing turrets. So much time has passed, they've got to have some ideas on how to make her usable again.
@cloudy978
4 ай бұрын
Also people complaining about off meta characters without realozing that they don't know how to play against them because they aren't meta ? Like. If we give people a sym meta or a mei meta or a torb meta maybe people will figure out. Oh hey this sym has wall I probably shouldn't visor. Oh this mei just used her wall probably a good idea to use my JQ ult. Oh this torb has his ult maybe I shouldn't dive in and let myself get trapped by lava ! Like if people played against these charactera they wouldn't be as "annoying" as they claim they are.
@funkycrawler619
4 ай бұрын
Sym was meta-ish (and I say meta-ish cause I swear it was like maybe .2% of the population playing her) for like 2 weeks but was apparently broken just cause they synergized well with Mauga and they had to nerf her? Like what. Meanwhile the fly that is Tracer can be meta at ALL RANKS on her own and never be touched...like yea.
@xalandriel6071
4 ай бұрын
@@funkycrawler619 Mauga AND Sym got buffed, at the same time both of them got nerfed again, where is this balancing? Buffing two separate heroes just to realize they are so good together, we need to nerf both of them again cuz ppl cry to much wtf
@smefgrimstae7845
4 ай бұрын
It's alight if you need to take breaks from creating content. Especially given the state of both Symm and Overwatch. People would miss what you make (because what you make is good), but ultimately it's more valuable for you yourself to be happy.
@Lishty17
4 ай бұрын
Dps high elo players are literally that one scene in Toy Story 2 when they show a bunch of the exact same Buzz Lightyear boxes, and people laugh at you when you play something different, like the common "bad dps" Symmetra, Junkrat or Mei, we just want to have fun playing the things we like and low elo keeps them hostage from buffs, BUT when high elo is the issue Blizzard plays deaf. I WISH we could just flip the tables arround for AT LEAST one season, make all of those 3 broken and burry Tracer and Sojourn for the remaining time, cause it's not about what you can or want to play but what you HAVE to play, Tank is the living embodiment of that, followed by Support and last Dps. Anyways sorry for the rattle, and thanks for reading to who ever decide to press on the comment LOL. #ReworkSym 🫠
@jacobhuerta1208
4 ай бұрын
I got banned for the third time and idk why. Like I wasn’t being rude to anyone and yet I got banned✨
@polar6066
4 ай бұрын
hitscan fanboys (mostly tracer and sojourn) think they are saving this game unironically
@Xainos28
4 ай бұрын
I enjoy your overwatch vids, they always make me laugh, but I understand how burnout can be for this game as well.
@Ennui81
4 ай бұрын
Although i main sym, she's like the last character that comes up to my mind for being "op/annoying" hell at this point she is unplayable Her counter is easy: never ignore her, predict & break turrets, tp, and tp bomb. Lastly high burst at medium to long range. With health and other buffs, its harder to make an impact using sym, ok tp and turrets are nice utility, but at higher elo, it won't be that easy to make an impactful elims, she can't make distance using her primary and secondary, she needs to get close but health buffs makes it hard I wish that she had slightly longer primary range, slightly faster secondary charge, and a little tiny dps buff (she has lower dps compared to full beam zarya) this just to create a better distance with enemy and to make her more reliable in the current state of the game tbh If i may add, revert turret damage but reduce the slow by a bit, but by no means im a god sym, i wish she was still "playable" in both qp and rank since apart from supports, she is my main. (Suggestion might be bad cause im plat lol)
@Dark.Shinen
4 ай бұрын
Yeah blizzard really likes to nerf around the problem, like they did with mercy and her dmg boost, but ended up nerfing her ga cd?
@Joshiitake
4 ай бұрын
I have absolutely nothing useful to say. Love your videos.
@Redraven-rj8ts
4 ай бұрын
3:02 CLOCK IT
@flebbewebbe88
4 ай бұрын
I'm a pretty low rank player (Gold / Plat back in OW1 haven't bothered with Comp since) and your content has made me LOVE playing Symmetra and I'd love to see her get SOMETHING
@flebbewebbe88
4 ай бұрын
ALSO I got a "Symm in QP so sweaty"..... LIIIKE what did they MEAN???
@ichigoamv1473
4 ай бұрын
Id pay any price to be in a dev meeting to know what they talk about cause they clearly aren’t talking about the right things it’s sad to see what’s happening to sym mercy and lw all 3 just aren’t playing the same game as the rest of the cast yet for whatever reason lw gets the trigger of “this hero needs help” cause they stay buffing him but can’t fix the problems he has im still a tiny bit hopeful that they can do the right things they are finally making tanks feel a little more healthy however I think it’s a tad overkill but the rein players been starved to long let them eat a bit but the targeted dps they called out for buffs straight up pissed me off cause don’t just help the few when the MANY are suffering
@hagalgames
4 ай бұрын
The new shield generator voicelines make me wonder if they're reworking Symmetra or if once again they're going to give one of her old abilities to a new hero.
@DMAart
4 ай бұрын
the fact that supports are not healers... so symm can't be a support... but then something like Illari happens, basically dps with some heals. BUT, they had to change symm 2.0 to dps. just put symm back to support (hot take i know) revert her to 2.0 but with the 3 turrets and not lock on gun, moving shield replaced with TP and a nerfed shield gen (you can choose like moira), and wall as ult. or shield gen as ult, tp as ability and wall removed, and idk maybe primary or secondari fire heals like illari
@independanttrainee39
4 ай бұрын
Hello, I just wanted to say thank you to talk about that because actually, most of Symmetra OTP are Main Healers, and you inspired me to make a rework of her, I hope you will like it, btw I keep her turrets as they are but I’m pretty sure their damage would be nerfed if she became a support because Blizzard hate her :( Symmetra is a Support hero in Overwatch. Photon Heal (Passive) Type: Passive Ability Effect Type: Area of effect Healing: 32 per second Area of effect: 16 meter radius Symmetra continuously regenerates health of nearby teammates. Photon Projector (left click) Type: Weapon Effect Type: Beam Damage: 85 Headshot: ✕ Ammo per shot: 5 per second Ammo: 100 Reload time: 1.4 seconds animation Max. range: 12 meters Move. speed: −7.5% (slow) Projectile radius: 0.275 meters Symmetra’s weapon emits a ranged beam. Photon Shield (right click) Type: Ability Effect Type: Self/ Targeted (allies) Health: 75 overshields Ammo: 2 stored Duration: 4 seconds Max. range: 50 meters Send a surge of energy to a teammate or yourself, temporarily regenerating shields when in danger. Sentry Turret (LShift) Type: Ability Effect Type: Projectile (before deployment)/ Beam (turret beam) Damage: 30 per second Headshot: ✕ Ammo: 3 stored/ Max 3 on the field Health: 50 Cast time: 0.22 seconds for throw + 0.28 s. recovery for shoot ~1 second (deployment) Duration: Until destroyed or replaced Max. range: 12 meters (turret beam) Move. speed: −15% (slow) Projectile speed: 30 meters per second Symmetra launches a small turret that automatically fires speed-reducing blasts at the nearest enemy within range. Up to three turrets can be built on the battlefield at once. Teleporter (E) Type: Ability Healing: Regenerates 50 overshields per second, after avoiding damage for 3 seconds Health: 150 health 150 shields Cast time: 0.8 second (deployment) Duration: Until destroyed Max. range: 30 meters Area of effect: 2 meters (interact range) Symmetra places a temporary teleporter exit pad at a distance and connects it to a teleporter entry pad at her current location. Allies (and some of their abilities, such as Junkrat’s RIP-Tire) can travel from the entry pad to the exit pad instantly. Photon Barrier (Q) Type: Ultimate Ability Health: 4000 Duration: 15 seconds Max. range: 25 meters Area of effect: 484 m × 50 m Symmetra deploys a massive energy barrier which prevents ranged attacks and is big enough to cut through the entire map. Ability details: • After cast time starts, there is 1 second recovery period where Symmetra cannot use her weapon. • Can be placed from anywhere (including from the spawn room), since it covers the entire map. • Orientation can be changed by pressing the Ultimate key again (like Mei's Ice Wall).
@jeremiahwashington3107
4 ай бұрын
I have an idea for Support Symmetra Here me out: 1.Pull a Roadhog with her primary fire and sort of combine left and right click (maybe a tap/hold type of thing). Right click then can give shields to teammates. This way you can keep turrets and the teleport. 2. Give Her the pseudo ultimate with wall and shield generator , with generator charging up at a faster rate than the wall. I think this should be the way to go with her, so there is more for her to provide her team.
@llcourt
4 ай бұрын
Idk about other supports I mainly *used to* use Zen and actually be able to hold my own even but I hate what they did to him of all the characters did he need a nerf? Absolutely not. I can’t orb enemy’s I just orbed for like 15 seconds BUT they can walk 3 steps and not have my orb anymore so you see how that makes no sense at all. Either make it harder to lose the orb or give it back to me wtf
@Likelysum
4 ай бұрын
Everyone thinks the ow2 problem is only having 1 tank but it's really them slowly but surely making the stupid things that happend in ow1 be taken away. Old tp ult and generator was such an unique thing that it made for creative strats and things that now could never happen cause it's too shooting focused.
@croissant2813
4 ай бұрын
No matter how much people argue your right about sojourn and tracer but people don’t realize there’s a difference between being easy to play and easy to actually master.
@everology
4 ай бұрын
I’m a sym main, I started falling out of love with ow during season 8 I don’t know what happened, the game became so degrading to play.
@jordandean507
4 ай бұрын
I genuinely hope symmetra gets reworked into the builder support she was intended to be and deserves to be. Her dps state hasn't worked and whenever she is fine she's nerfed in an instant. She's one of the few characters where you have to work twice as hard for baseline value and she seriously needs to be looked at by the devs
@SlayStarSombra
4 ай бұрын
I think that they might be swaping out syms turrets for the shield gen and turn into something like Illari's pylon or if its an ult then they'll make it like life weaver's ult but also bigger and stronger if it's going to be a limited thing
@i.m.t_u
4 ай бұрын
No cause it shouldn’t take a hero that is supposed to do high damage an entire CLIP just to kill a singular tank… like come on now…
@StarChaserRansom
4 ай бұрын
I'd prefer a shield generator character/mechanic then the stupid nerf to healing and buff to damage they did.
@oopa8112
4 ай бұрын
yea thats why i stopped playing ow2 for seasons now because of her being tweaked so frequently
@everology
4 ай бұрын
Please make her a support! Or make her have like a switch mode to be support or damage when needed
@chonker1
4 ай бұрын
On the leaderboard, isn’t it the right side that’s your most played hero?
@cutenpetite
4 ай бұрын
who else saw the leaks of a pink mercy recolor in s11, so excited for s11 icl
@MarielKatiraj
4 ай бұрын
we need to complain about symmetra being awful
@Viviana.craftwood
3 ай бұрын
I started to play sym cuz of your video she's so fun ngl
@2ooo5
4 ай бұрын
yeah overwatch is no longer fun😭.
@Memo_Sym
4 ай бұрын
we need that crosshair settings😩😩
@joshuafenty5621
4 ай бұрын
I feel like Symmetra is a hero that punishes thoughtless interaction. You can’t just run at or dive Symmetra without thinking and expect to run her team over for free, and people don’t like that. People just want to click heads and push buttons and win, and Symmetra doesn’t really let people do that. Additionally though, people also just have no idea how to play *with* Symmetra. Nobody TPs with you past difficult chokes, nobody capitalizes on a target being slowed by turrets, nobody tries to support you as you are beaming. I cannot count the amount of times I put up a really well positioned wall, and the enemy team walks straight past it because my tank decided to back away from it instead of push up…
@icefiredragon94
4 ай бұрын
Not just interactions but her whole kit punishes mistakes in team DPS fundamentals in general: not staying with the team? TP bomb. Don't pay attention to surroundings? Melted by turrets. Play too passive (which tanks have to do to a degree) and you get beamed. And more. TP pretty much is to capitalize where any enemy makes these errors so those rare occasions i have chat on and people complain about dying to Sym, i just tell them "not my fault you don't pay attention"
@m1rna
4 ай бұрын
I like this kind of video
@hysteria_
4 ай бұрын
I have had a hyperfixation since the launch of Overwatch, but even I am… really not enjoying it. The state of Overwatch just isn’t enjoyable to me even with my major hyperfixation.
@colmkelly72
4 ай бұрын
I took a break from playing, especially from dps cuz of queue times, i don't want to play some much anymore cuz she's just a different character at this point.
@mohamadkikar6754
4 ай бұрын
Honestly great vid! I like ur content but I just wanna know. How did u make ur cross hair, I wanna be a sym main but my crosshair is soo bad
@Bios101
4 ай бұрын
What ive narrowed it down to is this. Since overwatch 2 removed 1 tank, it allowed damage overall to flurish more than it should. On top of that, Blizzard changed the hitboxes to be bigger but also increased the health pool for the heroes. Increasing health is pretty relevant when damage is so high and hitboxes are bigger. To make the proper balance changes Blizzard should nerf damage across the board, remove 1 shots, as well as looking at abilities that do dmg for no reason (pharah's new rocket boop for example) and abilities that do too much like: bap lamp, kirko cleanse, zen disord orb, anti granade (just change to mirror watch version), cree mine, hog hook, etc. After that each character should be slightly nerfed to make room for counter play and not "counter swap". This will allow heroes to actually be played and allow skillful players to utilize those characters against one another and make room for players who are getting better at those heros. This basically gives reseaon to skill expression instead of swapping to a hero just cause theyre built to be a counter making the slate more even. Starring here i think will put overwatch in a healthy state instead if the toxic mess its in right now. Players are just frustreated and hate feeling like theyre doing nothing. But people need to stop asking for changes that makes characers easier to play and get so much reward by dominating a match (Aka Roadhog, sojurn, orisa, or any other hero before). Thats not balanced. Alot of streamers and pros gaslight the community into thinking its fair. Use common sense people. Now for sym, making her a support would be GREAT for overwatch. It will also help the devs make more heros that arent just healers but actual supports that *support the team*. Hell even make Sombra a support, her mirror watch version is really good and just needs to be tuned to be line with a support role. I often think Sym could run 2 ults again but it would be wall or sheild gen leaving tp as an ability still.
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