What're your thoughts on the current state of the game?
@nestorbaez1204
21 күн бұрын
@@theFullMeasure my thoughts on the game I love the game for what it is it's very enjoyable I'm still grinding trying to get the things some of the things that I'm missing the things that I want to have so I can enjoy the game even more and that's what what it's about
@guidorussoheck2100
21 күн бұрын
there are a lot of stuff i will add or change but we need to give it time. So far i cant put it down, i already have pretty much everything in the game. Waiting for ulti freyna.
@MiguelM7
21 күн бұрын
Game is good, needs lot of improvements, outposts are boring, a lot of items duplicated accross multiple amorphs, some only drop on bosss, some on void thingys. Needs to be balanced, less about farming amorphs and more about getting what you are looking for with shared rewards similar to warframe. Loading screen on bosses should be changed to ones that teach boss weapoints, destructible parts etc, as some people still don't know about them later in the game. The merchant that will be implemented should be available every 2 weeks with cosmetics, improved mods and variants of purple weapons, the addition of 3 built catalysts could also be good to get as in 1 month you can get 6 which is almost enough to fully catalyze a legendary weapon or ultimate descendant. Add an engame raids that drops legendary reactors for weapon types/descendants instead of specific legendary weapons and additional farmable rewards. These are some of the improvements but there are still much more.
@ShadowFalcon19
21 күн бұрын
The game is good. However, Nexon needs to recognize that not all players have one-shot kill "Min-Max" builds and needs to nerf all enemies accordingly.
@geraldclark9280
20 күн бұрын
Main problem. Content sucks. Open world is standing around capturing circles and playing Superman 64 with orbs. Dungeon 1 feels the same as 2-12. Story is trash. Invasion is trash. 70% colossal fights trash. They have no idea how to make good content.
@2-bitgaming431
21 күн бұрын
TFD currently looks like this for me: log in, collect baked catalyst and/or activator, do missions to collect parts for catalyst / activator, visit Anais, put catalyst/activator in the oven, log off. I have zero problem with that, it's a new game and I am stocking up on the items I need to do whatever I want when new content drops. Is the game dead? no. Is it new? yes. Does it need new modes, rewards and bosses? yeah. Will it get them? Hope so, looks like it and they'll just be more to do as time goes on. Multiple thousands of hours in Warframe / Destiny under my belt, so I understand that service games need to start somewhere, TFD is doing well for a new game. If they can add and improve on the base they have they will be fine. If they can develop their bond with the community and listen to player feedback like Warframe they'll do very well. If they develop it like Destiny they'll fail eventually. I am interested to see what Duet Night Abyss will be like. I ditched Destiny a while ago so having a third, grindy game where I can muck about with weird builds to bounce to when I have smashed out whatever Warframe/TFD content has to offer is currently missing from my gaming schedule. But yeah, is TFD dying? Nah
@ChickenJoe2.5
21 күн бұрын
Howdy fellow D2 enjoyer, this “games dead” shit aint nothin new. Destinys dead every 3 weeks. Just how live service games work. 6k hours into destiny i was like okay i literally have nothing to grind anymore. Im 250 into TFD. I like this game a lot. I know theyll stick around if they do all the things you mentioned
@Angina272
21 күн бұрын
"But yeah, is TFD dying? Nah" steamcharts website for TFD, especially sorted by "all the time" completely agrees with you dude.
@2-bitgaming431
21 күн бұрын
@@ChickenJoe2.5 Destiny was dead for me when they brought in paid dungeons. So I stopped playing around whenever that became a thing. It's a good game and I miss the pvp but I just couldn't support it after that
@vbun4662
21 күн бұрын
It's like the early days of Warframe. If the devs can keep producing interesting content and avoid pissing off the playerbase then I think we'll see it grow into something interesting. If they can manage to be even half as responsive as DE was in the early Warframe days we might have a longstanding title on our hands. Let's just hope Nexon doesn't get in the way too much.
@inferno1738
21 күн бұрын
Its really annoying how often i see this about games. Content drops, players grind through everything as soon as possible. Then proceed to complain there is nothing to do. Anyone who does other things will still have plenty to do
@MillB999
21 күн бұрын
I think the 5 hr xp boost doesn't help. They should lower it to 2 to 3 hrs, unless you play more than that throughout the day
@drollyrancher7020
21 күн бұрын
or the whales that buy things and get a fully maxed everything in a day, then complain there's no endgame. Like my brother in christ you paid to skip the endgame
@inferno1738
21 күн бұрын
@@drollyrancher7020 lol. I see that slot to. Mainly in the gacha game space
@HaruhiDream5339
15 күн бұрын
@@drollyrancher7020You can't even really do that. You still have to level up if you buy catalysts or characters, and you can't buy weapons.
@charleswilliam8335
21 күн бұрын
The state of my game is I just completed ult bunny yesterday, been playing her and have all of ult Valby’s parts cooking and about to get her. I’m psyched!
@blacksage81
8 күн бұрын
Great pair of Ultimate's to have
@SoufWestBravo
20 күн бұрын
Drop rates plainly suck. Over 600 gold reactor farming for gley, and only got 3 decent ones to drop. People dont want to spend time grinding reactors like a 9-5 job just to get shafted each time.
@JediObiDave
21 күн бұрын
Add more skins, less dye, character slots and inventory Monetization. Add new worlds. Get rid of puzzle solving. Add shared paint system.
@sputtz00
19 күн бұрын
@@JediObiDave I don’t mind the puzzles, they aren’t hard and could be used in future expansions as long as those puzzles can be solo able when we get into group play that is when they die off for me. I agree with you about the paint sharing. It’s not fair for players to have to purchase each individual color swath on each descendants skin.
@LBG
21 күн бұрын
Agree with you. I am more than satisfied with the state of the game and I do play a lot (500 hours). I think with games like this it takes time to get to state where it has enough content variety to sustain all types of players. I have been seeing these "Is TFD dying" posts and videos lately and almost made one myself but I went to steamcharts to see what numbers Warframe, Destiny 2 or even Helldivers 2 has and they are not much more than TFD. I think a mixture of the early hype going away, new games like Black Myth Wukong and Space Marine 2 coming out and doing well and generally new seasons or events popping up in other live service games would take away some of the playerbase leaving only the dedicated ones. Also from Nexon's point of view they want the game to succeed and especially in the western market so I don't imagine they will give up quickly. If they keep working on it as they have so far it will do well long term. I feel Season 2 or early next year is when they should try to hit hard with content when things are quiet after the new year's.
@theFullMeasure
21 күн бұрын
Well written comment, much agreed
@thenobody1546
17 күн бұрын
I hope they do improve it. I had fun for a good while but sadly I lost interest in this game about 2 weeks ago. Probably won't be returning anytime soon or at all. The current state of this game right now is disappointing. Hopefully they pull cyber punk because this game has potential.
@ipfreely
21 күн бұрын
It’s not dead, it’s in a lull waiting for new content. The gameplay is better than any recent game, so the foundation is there, just keep building on it.
@theFullMeasure
21 күн бұрын
Agreed, strong start
@MillB999
21 күн бұрын
The gameplay feels kinda boring to me at times. I'm not use to this kinda gameplay where all my objectives feel about the same. Since the same 3 locations
@MillB999
21 күн бұрын
Perhaps I need to try bunny. Maybe that might make it a bit better
@MajeedBelle
21 күн бұрын
@@MillB999 don’t do bunny if you feel the way you do right now you will feel worse after playing with bunny. Bunny pretty much makes almost everything in the game very very easy and boring and casual. I think bunny is actually bad for the game. I suggest doing what I am trying to do which is some of the not so easily powerful characters like esiemo. He can do AOE but bunny and and other AOE characters do a significantly better than him. He can do Bossing but other bosses do it better than him He can do everything, but there are multiple descendants that can do everything he can do and do it significantly better but he has a fun factor to him, but I’m right there with you. There is literally two or three things to do in the game and that shit gets really boring and it’s frustrating when you’ve got a week characters that basically make other characters useless , except mission bosses
@COLDSIDE34
21 күн бұрын
I have 500+ hours in and i dont play is much because it just takes to dam long to max out everything
@CalebAdams
21 күн бұрын
I think peoples' problem is they approach games like these like they do others. This is a game meant to be enjoyed over several years, but instead they rush to get everything done a week after new content launches, and then pissed when they have nothing to do. Nothing wrong with completing things quickly but you can't expect new stuff constantly. The content is meant to be consumed over the long term. I play for around 30 minutes to an hour day, always have plenty to do, and never get burnt out so still very much enjoying every time I hop on.
@theFullMeasure
21 күн бұрын
People will people :)
@Langz_Noir
21 күн бұрын
Thank you for having a reasonable take on this. It gets a little "end of the world" everywhere listening to people's comments about how things are dying.
@theFullMeasure
21 күн бұрын
Exactly, it really ain't that bad
@vluuminous
21 күн бұрын
I'm close to 900 hrs, Mastery 26, 9 fully catalyzed characters, 7 fully catalyzed ultimate weapons, several partially catalyzed and I think it's in a relatively good place. There's a lull in content, but that's not necessarily the developer's fault. I went all out grinding everything since launch. The developers even admitted to not expecting player's like me to get where we're at as fast as we have since they based it's development on the Korean market's playing habits. Regardless of them saying that, they can improve on a several things that would make it more challenging or fun, but that'll come in time. Once people realize that game companies and developers are made up of people just like us, who have problems and lives outside of the game, they'll have a easier time not being so critical of it.
@SrChr778
21 күн бұрын
I can tell you off the bat that things are only slowed down temporarily. Oct 10th is when we'll see things speed up again, when the new huge content update releases. So, to those Redditors who're being overly dramatic, they just don't have any patience. And if I may, say unto them, a bit of gaming wisdom: take your time with content. Don't try to obtain everything all at once. Because that's exactly what leads to "lack of content". Slow and steady wins the race.
@ScottG420
21 күн бұрын
Game is not dead, people are spending more time grinding end game, they then run out of content to do. What am I doing maxing out a few choice descendants and weapons. Quit looking at the charts if the game feels dead then leave some of us are doing what we need until the next content drop.
@kingcurmudgeon8685
21 күн бұрын
I mean they’re in the low 20k area for players on steam. That’s not great. That’s the same level Destiny 2 is at and everyone is saying that gane is dead. They need to find ways to keep players engaged
@ConquerorV
21 күн бұрын
@@kingcurmudgeon8685More players are on console
@MillB999
21 күн бұрын
@kingcurmudgeon8685 I think a lot of the problems is going on global, and you have people talking sexual all the time, and the gameplay gets kinda boring fast a lot of times, and they need more events during the season
@antiimperialista5764
21 күн бұрын
They didn't have a good plan for end game. Let's see if they can keep players engaged. Personally I don't think so, but we'll see.
@mattredfield7072
21 күн бұрын
It has the worst chat I've ever seen in any game, The world chat is full of some real a holes
@meinemamischiesst8472
21 күн бұрын
You're completely right. I'm always surprised why everyone always uses the meaningless Steam charts as an indication of a game's status. Probably because they don't have any other sources, so they just take what they can get and pretend it applies to all platforms. As long as I can find other players in the group search in under a minute, a game is still very much alive for me. Just use common sense and you don't need Steam charts.
@angrychefguy7988
21 күн бұрын
I'm at about 600 hrs into the game and I still have plenty to do, I think a lot of people "paid to lose" in this game I've only spent 30 bucks so far I have all the descendants at 40 and all but the peace keeper leveled up as well and yet i still feel i can find something to do everyday.
@Blacksmith574
21 күн бұрын
I’m still having a lot of fun, that’s all I can say. Got plenty of things left to do as well.
@theFullMeasure
21 күн бұрын
Feel the same way over here, happy gaming!
@steel8240
21 күн бұрын
I’m having a ton of fun in this game, have lots to do. Guess I’m built different as I don’t use bunny or perfected leveling methods (wonder how folks get burned out hopping in bunny cave🙃) I see the game as a marathon, not a sprint. Anyway, the 1 thing (well maybe 2 things) I see that would take this game next level is actual hard content that makes bunny not the #1 choice for everyone to play and a clan system. I play solo, wish I had people to party & play with. I think that’s what’s really missing is stuff to do that really requires a squad & a way for people to team up better. Hard boss fights in pubs is a mind numbing experience. I’ve got 4 gluttony kills, it’d surely be more if I wasn’t loading in with bunnies and lepics
@Blacksmith574
21 күн бұрын
@@steel8240I use bunny for everything because it is the only maxed out ult character that I have. I’m working getting and maxing out other ult descendants, but until then I don’t really have a choice.
@pantherusa3146
21 күн бұрын
Well said, just subscribed, good video, as someone who also has 1000 hrs, all descendants and most guns. I am still having fun, trying all descendants, and tweaking builds, making my own. I still have to use more guns. 1k hours with t cage, gregs, python . Just started to use secret garden. This game is amazing and the devs attitude is great. We need more devs like these.
@SeriousDanh
21 күн бұрын
That 5.7% represents the total player count; among active players, it could be as high as 50%. This suggests most active players have reached the endgame and have already left due to a lack of engaging content.
@Mahros1
21 күн бұрын
This is a bit of a rant but I lack the skill to do the Invasion missions. I am old and my reactions are slow but I do have a few Ultimates, including Bunny fully specced with good weapons. Now, I may be in 1% of players or less but its still content that is deliberately designed to exclude gamers like me . What I have seen of it is repeating the same dungeons but single player. Lack of skill aside, I do not understand the decision to make part of an mp looter shooter single player - you might not interact with other players but you don't play an mp game to be sp. The grind I accept, its why its ftp. A first step would be to make the Invasion dungeons hard to do in 2 minutes, average in 5 mins and easy in 10 minutes with corresponding rewards. But the season 1 Invasion is just awful, at least for me. Not quite giving up yet but that could be lack of competition.
@varsinzo4844
21 күн бұрын
Yesterday i unlocked Ultimate Viessa and now Im unlocking Ultimate Valby, I wasnt trying to unlock them I wanted to unlocked some energy activators then I started getting the Ultimate pieces. So Im more than happy with the game, yes it needs more content and theres plenty of room for improvement but the devs are listening and improving the game, I haven't stopped playing since day one and Im not bored at all, Im hyped AF for Ultimate Freyna (shes my favorite character) so I extremely optimistic for the future. And about those player numbers, o dont even know anything about path of exile, Diablo, destiny or Warframe (IDGAF about any of those games) but even CoD ( a bigger ip than any of those mentioned, and the game that used to be my main game before I switch to The First Descendant) is loosing its player base, and theyre trying to get players back giving away the battle pass for free, and its season 6 started this Wednesday. We most give the game some time its not even 3 months out, theres more content coming. Ill continue to play it.
@fredluehr5009
21 күн бұрын
Game is alive and well in my world. I just play, not rush through like its a race. I just play. Having done that I have only a blue print for Jayber and two parts for Kyle to get to have all descendants. Same thing for weapons,although rng is messing with me really bad for legacy. Just play the game. That's all you need to do. I'm old but it works.
@theFullMeasure
21 күн бұрын
Agreed
@axxjazz.
21 күн бұрын
I mean the end game content is literally - go invisible, hit 3 buttons, kill elite in 3 seconds, wait 1 min, repeat. or if your not doing that its spamming 1 mission over and over (bunny road), in order to get resources. i don't think the game lacks content, rather it lacks any challenge (outside of 2-3 bosses)
@jimboyle4934
21 күн бұрын
I’m excited to have just unlocked Gley, now to figure out how to work her 😂
@theFullMeasure
21 күн бұрын
My favorite part of the game!
@soundfx68
21 күн бұрын
I got Ult Gley in the oven! Excited.
@jimboyle4934
21 күн бұрын
@@soundfx68 Dude that’s awesome 👏
@Nunya369
21 күн бұрын
The most boring descendant
@Mdustroyer
21 күн бұрын
I got gley yesterday. Just leveled her up and left her like that bcoz i cant understand her abilities, she's really boring.
@Finesse0916
21 күн бұрын
I'm going to be honest the invasions are hot garbage The fact the enforcement skills get rest each season. You have to refarm them each seasons Is absolutely disrespectful to our dopamine level in our brains, and there is really no reward system for Invasions Nexon should have had a raid in the game because it makes more sense due to the game having tanks, dps healer, and support classes. Nexon has all the roles for a raid. And what do they come up with? Invasions that are only built for a speedster known as bunny and no other descendant is quick enough to beat time to obtain the greater reward
@VyndrosNoldor
21 күн бұрын
I only played a bit during pre-season (I was focused on other games) so I'm doing my main farm now. I've played a lot of live service games and in my opinion this game does NOT lack for content. Now, to be fair, some people may not enjoy this style of farming game but I'm completely hooked to the whole loop of it right now. That being said, I think you're completely right: the way to have a healthy relationship with these types of games is play hard once in a while, leave to do other stuff/play other games and then come back at launch of a new season when you can enjoy the new content and the game is at max population. This model has been perfected by PoE to the point that their league starts are actually increasing in size over time and more often than not so is their retention for the first month.
@TheChrisLouis
16 күн бұрын
People that like to grind for the sake of grinding are obviously going to keep playing despite the lack of content. The 90% that left since launch are not. We are going to play fun shit (other games) and definitely not invasions.
@sheenoreiki7843
21 күн бұрын
I can understand why the game adds timer, the progression curve turned crazy high that I even got Ult Viessa and a full unique python not realising it. The only thing got me frustrated is the MR, I had 2 fully upgraded characters, ult bunny and ult lepic, along with 3 other ults and 3 lv40 of bunny, enzo and sharen, I still could not reach lv20. Limiting my max cap due to MR triggers me somehow
@MiguelM7
21 күн бұрын
If you are talking about Module Capacity, it only increases when you reset a level/descendant. When you first get a weapon/descendant its module capacity is very slow, but it increases as you level up reaching a maximum at lvl 40, after that you need to place catalysts and shrooms to furter increase, what MR does is reach the lvl 40 maximum capacity faster, instead of needing to get to lvl 40, maybe at 20 it's already maxed.
@marxdrive
21 күн бұрын
MR is only affected by the first level 40 on each Descendant and weapons. When you you consider all the weapons, including purple and blue weapons, we have not yet levelled to 40, you can see why our Master Rank is still low.
@Graymeyne
21 күн бұрын
You're shooting yourself down by not leveling normal descendants, blue and purple weapons. I only recently unlocked ult bunny today, my first ultimate and I'm almost mr 20. See. You're rushing things. That's why you're getting burned out. Level them up to 40 for the first time then you can delete/dismiss them. The normal descendants i have yet to max is lepic, jayber, kyle, yujin, and hailey.
@sheenoreiki7843
21 күн бұрын
@@MiguelM7 I did. My max cap is now at 82 instead of 85 due to MR
@sheenoreiki7843
21 күн бұрын
@@marxdrive I see. No wonder then, I skipped the weapons straight into uniques since thunder cage
@droger1448
21 күн бұрын
I can always find groups for infiltrations, bosses, missions, ect.. so idk how people are saying the game is dead.. matchmaking always puts me in a group with at least 3 minimum
@markx6776
21 күн бұрын
Ignoring the noise 😂 I'm having a blast with TFD❤
@teletesselator
20 күн бұрын
I think only 5% have done ten assigns for two reasons. 1. About 90% of people DO NOT want to grind for more than an hour a week (if even that) - grinding is bad. and 2. the STORY ends when you hit level 100 so it seems to most like the game is mostly finished - they finished the game... done. All there is to do after level 100 for the vast majority of players, is the hard-mode bosses; and they're not that gratifying or rewarding. Now, if those hard mode bosses dropped Catalysts and/or Activators... then... you would see that 5% turn into something closer to 50%. This in my opinion, is a result of worrying too much about squeezing players for money. What they need to do for success: 1. Drop more goodies from the HM Bosses (inc. Catalysts & Activators). 2. Put their asset artists to work and double the size of the playable world - 6 or 8 more lands. * 3. Reduce the price of their e-coins. ** * Of course this means extending the story. But with AI for both story continuation and voice over this should be fairly easy IMO and in my experience. ** It's ridiculous that 100 extra slots costs nearly $70 etc. etc.. If I wanna buy an Activator again, I have to spend $70 because the $30 pile falls short. WHAT??? - $70 (or even $30) for an Activator - WTF. It should be $5 - $7 so that people would actually buy them. Heck, if they were $5 I would have purchased a few already myself - but because they're $70 they have none of my money. If they want to charge a lot for stuff it should be skins and other cosmetics. But if they wanna squeeze us over crafting times it should be a reasonable proposition which the majority of players would actually consider. Anyway, my two cents...
@ImNoyader
21 күн бұрын
I'm 80 hours in and I love this game. I finally got ult bunny today and now I have moved onto making an enzo build. The game is far from dead.
@theFullMeasure
21 күн бұрын
Love me some Enzo
@darylmocarsky1206
21 күн бұрын
Some people (my brother) loved the game until he realized how much time is required to maximize builds for end game content(grind, gameplay loop). He stopped playing that very day. I have the time and have logged 300 hrs. I don’t play nearly as much as I did but I’ll continue to play new content and work on some other unlocks as they are released.
@ProwlerNY1
20 күн бұрын
What a great video! TFD, much like D4 and PoE are cyclical games. Player numbers drop off the further we get from an update until the next update drops.
@theFullMeasure
20 күн бұрын
Pretty much!
@gerhardschelkmann3228
21 күн бұрын
The pre season was the base Game and the Seasons should have the potential to carry the game for the length of the season. Well, I can not see that right now. Clans or guilds would have given the game the much needed social aspect to ensure players would play the game even without a content related target. Just meeting some friends and have fun.
@theFullMeasure
21 күн бұрын
Social aspect of the game(aka clans etc) would be a super welcome addition, couldn't agree more
@arminyu69
21 күн бұрын
Good summary, I am going to rest from TFD maybe up until S1 Part 2 is out. Overall I think S2 is the biggest make it or break it for TFD because if S2 becomes a copy pasta of S1 content then this game may be over but who knows.
@theFullMeasure
21 күн бұрын
Sure, lessons from S1 start should be learned for sure, but they have indicated that they are taking notes
@lynettecarter9887
21 күн бұрын
They have not thought of end game 😞. Almost all your time spent is grinding ALONE for what power your toon up FOR ?
@ericfeddeler
21 күн бұрын
I feel like the game is in a fine place. Tough to have every weapon and descendant right now but I’m creating builds for all of my characters. Still enjoying the game but looking at other games to pair with this one
@theFullMeasure
21 күн бұрын
Same here, got this goin with some Space Marine 2, Astro Bot and a massive backlog :P
@Zenosable
18 күн бұрын
Once new stuff comes I’ll be back playing it im still keeping this game in my top ten games.
@theFullMeasure
18 күн бұрын
That's fair
@KalinaHitanaVTuber
21 күн бұрын
Honestly, I don't really have a problem with the overall gaming loop outside of how long it takes to EXP grind. The biggest issue I have is less an issue with the game, and more the fact that I just haven't found an actual good and helpful community in-game or any real friends to help make the grind less tedious
@theFullMeasure
21 күн бұрын
The EXP grind is something that the developer is actively looking into but then again without this grind, there's significantly less to do
@harryfenix9665
21 күн бұрын
It took Borderlands 3 around 2 years to release all of it content. I finish all character build, beat all boss on with each characters on Mayhem 11, farm up for all specific build, weapons, comp with specific stats. All of that took around 500hrs. Meanwhile TFD only out for 3 months and there are plenty of people who reach up to 600hrs in game. The problem with grinding game is that some people grind too much and they end up have nothing left to do. While most casual player either still slowly catch up to current content or people who farm a few Ult Descendant basically see the game don't have much more linear content in quest or storyline for them. A lot of people just going to spend 80-100 hrs in the game and that basically good enough for them.
@TheJoshThatPlaysDrums
20 күн бұрын
I am 36 years old. I have a friend who lives with his mom, slightly older than me, and can play this game all day and night because he has no job. I just don’t think I have that kind of time or dedication for this game. I’m very busy, there’s really only a few days of the week I can game and only for about 2-3 hours at a time tops, and he keeps telling me that I don’t need to put in a lot of time to enjoy this game. But everybody always talks about how much you need to grind. I don’t play games to grind, I play to casually have a fun fix. I don’t have time to craft. But I really like first/third person shooters, and I’m really tempted to see if this could work into my schedule.
@jjyiz28
21 күн бұрын
a much fairer comparison would be Destiny 2 and Warframe player numbers. The 1 month graph on both those games have shown a steady playerbase. First Descendant isn't dead, but I have to admit that it is dying. I won't stick my head in the sand and claim otherwise. The players that have quit either: 1) have nothing more to do, have everything accomplished 2) couldn't deal with the RNG Personally for me, I'm still enjoying the game after 450 hours put in. i Have noticed that the game is still getting new players which is a good sign.
@ironman82tr
21 күн бұрын
I think an interesting pole to take would be how many people who say the game is boring and dieing exclusively play solo. I think that has alot to do with a game being boring for solo players.
@theFullMeasure
21 күн бұрын
Could be on to something, it certainly helps to have an active group to play with
@LIToyGame
20 күн бұрын
@theFullMeasure I am still very much enjoying the game. I started with Lepic, unlocked Bunny to progress the story, then unlocked Sharen so I could get my Ultimate Lepic, and now I am working on making Ult Lepic all maxxed out. I'm Mastery Level 16, and I just unlocked Enduring Legacy. FINALLY a weapon that I like better than my Tamer! I will be working on buffing out that weapon as well. I am not yet able to find a PUG to defeat Gluttony for the 1st time, and I'm still having a hard time with these Invasion missions. I do consider myself a Gamer, and a completionist up to a point. However, I'm a grown-ass man, have a job, and have a family. I don't sit on the couch playing games for hours upon hours every day. I have 1 day off where I will spend 6+ gaming, otherwise it's just a couple of hours a day during the work week.
@dyscalculic
21 күн бұрын
I'm about 450+ hrs, I'm at the point I just do the daily invasions. I'm out of things to chase for now, at least anything worth chasing(I never bothered with the normal mode only guns minus TC). But I don't mind treating this as a game to pop in and out of.
@Deziretrickz
21 күн бұрын
I love this game. It's really relaxing to play and easy to learn/understand. Yes, other looter shooters have more content, but bare in mind this game has been out a few months, and overall, there have been major changes to certain things quite quickly. In my opinion, looking to what this game can eventually become is quite exciting, as they have the inspiration from other successful titles in the genre to take aspects from and create their own identity. I will 100% be staying around with this game as ngl being a new player to looter shooters... The other options like warframe & Destiny are too overwhelming to get into for me. So, being able to keep up with the content is perfect for me ngl
@theFullMeasure
21 күн бұрын
It does make a difference when it feels like you're there at the start or ground floor so to say.
@Deziretrickz
21 күн бұрын
@theFullMeasure Say I've sweated this game and have collected everything. So now I just build different characters as to start with my main goal was to build up each type of decendant for different weaknesses and so on. I've built Ult bunny (obviously), Enzo (main bosser for me), done Hayley/viessa and will 100% be doing ult freyna when she drops
@dmljr917
21 күн бұрын
My main problem with the game is the drop rates. While do I need to run an outpost 10x for a AM with 25% drop rate? 2nd would be that shape stabilizer do nothing, a 5% decrease in most common drop, still has them be the most likely drop received and I have gotten them every single time I used one. I really hope they don’t do something stupid with the trader and make it like in ToF were it appears randomly in a random location for a hour.
@warehousewil
21 күн бұрын
I'm totally grind burn out. Had to kind of walk away. Been farming for Ultimate Bunny last 2 full weeks. I was playing for 3 - 5 hours a night. My RNG is absolutely horrible. Left with one piece to get. Feel stuck. Same old rinse and repeat. Fun game until the grind settled in.
@ryandavenport4706
21 күн бұрын
The same trying to farm for a part and it won’t drop, I’m done with this game 😂
@Hvorgandr
20 күн бұрын
I have over 700 hours, I even passed the Diablo 4's season 5, dealing with all weapons, catalysts,, activators, farming meta weapons and eventually, opening all the Ult ascendants, maxing most of them and so on. Then, switched back to Diablo 4, able to build a rogue that would kill ubers in 2 days of progress while at the same time sitting on a 21B of gold thanks to trade. I'll be having hard times when Ult Freyna gets released and Vessel Of Hatred. PS: I farmed Hailey.
@YAH_LP7
21 күн бұрын
Unfortunately I’ve reached the point where I’m bored. Maxed majority of the guns already. Fully built out all the characters except 2-3 I don’t care for. Only thing left to do is sit at outpost and try to max boring guns I won’t use. Not even 40hrs in 😢
@connorcmc5388
21 күн бұрын
im taking my time with it and having fun TFD. i agree with what you said people need to start to learn that its ok when you are done with a game you can put it down and move on to something else until new things come out for that game.
@DovahVokuna
21 күн бұрын
I maxed out all ultimate characters and a lot of weapons. Now i take a sort of short break till the next update with only a login to cook some materials.
@theFullMeasure
21 күн бұрын
Makes sense!
@DovahVokuna
21 күн бұрын
@@theFullMeasure and don’t get me wrong i love this game. I want to play this for years to come. But after grinding so much i want to start grind fresh 😆 when Ultimate Freyna comes out. Also hope we get an Ultimate Sharen soon. Question. In 2 days or so many things in the shop will expire. Including ultimate characters. Do you think we get a huge shop update? Greetings from the Netherlands.
@theFullMeasure
21 күн бұрын
@@DovahVokuna That's something I've been pondering as well. It syncs up with their usual update window(mid week) so makes sense. Gonna try and fish for something on Twitter
@DovahVokuna
21 күн бұрын
@@theFullMeasure thanks for the kind responses.
@theFullMeasure
21 күн бұрын
@@DovahVokuna Appreciate the comments and support
@savagedrew
21 күн бұрын
I’m loving the game and having fun. Im little bit over the 900 hour mark. Im MR 26, have all 561 mods, characters, weapons( all with max unique ability) and I have 6 characters, 6 ult weapons, 1 rare weapon mid maxed right now.Most of my time spent right now is working on my next character/weapon to mid max or award challenges, which I’m 321/333. All of this has been done solo or in match making. Myself and four others started playing TFD, 2 quit and 2 are waiting for October. Now, I say all this because yes it is a grind and it does suck at times but I’m enjoying it nevertheless. I was a Destiny 2 player so it was very hard to snap out of a 10 year grind mod and slow it down with this game. However, I feel what I’ve gotten out of this game has been rewarding and enjoyable for me. Are there better games, yes. I mean Destiny as example has always been able to tell an amazing story and game play in the early years was great but that’s a story for another time. For me there are a dozen or so things I could think of to make TFD better, which I feel the Devs have addressed and will continue to do so in the future. I have high hopes for this game and I’m excited to see where the future goes. Other than that great video as always and I agree with all you had to say.
@FR33LANCER-M-
21 күн бұрын
I just unlocked Ult. Bunny & Gley yesterday. Still leveling up my Viessa and Valby. My Ajax is a Beast! My hope is the second part of Season 1 stays away from speed runs. I really didn't like that. Give me more stories and new enemies to fight. Also waiting for the Colossi to start appearing in game like in Kingston, the Sterile Lands etc.
@rickykuijpers3179
21 күн бұрын
What's left to do in the game? Pretty much nothing besides doing builds for characters and guns. Might aswell get stuff ready for the December update and the super hard dungeons.
@imonyourside8376
21 күн бұрын
I'm still playing but that reactor farm is atrocious. I've been farming a Hailey reactor with my buddies all week and haven't found much. Probably about 35 hours into that reactor and all I found was a decent but not great purple.
@sputtz00
21 күн бұрын
I am one of the 5% I am at MR 26 and I have no desire to go fight gluttony a minimum 20 times for a chance to get a full peacemaker build with pugs when the same pugs can’t clear Molten fortress
@benpremium139
21 күн бұрын
Or enter a fight with a lvl 10 char. Even if catalyzed its affecting hp and everything. Hate it
@isaiahdweinman
19 күн бұрын
im mr 22 and have 30 + each of pk parts. all u did was grind vespers xp mr is pointless go max cat guns and descendants u just started
@sputtz00
19 күн бұрын
@@isaiahdweinman actually I went all over so that it wouldn’t get boring
@Fun_Professional2u
11 күн бұрын
I run into a lot of players that get mad at other players for not having a copy build of a youtuber. Sometimes I just want to shoot stuff but the chat turns me away thinking is this really what I want to do.
@Darkjuvex89
21 күн бұрын
honestly, this game is similar to Warframe and Destiny. A game that is being built on and the devs response towards teh community is great. Now, we look forward to see evolving.
@theFullMeasure
20 күн бұрын
Yup, bright future ahead
@slvrsrfr92
21 күн бұрын
Key elements that sell and retain players are discovery, progression, reasonable challenges, and social interaction. As a completionist myself, I have hit a dead end with this game and the new content coming out in October, I will probably complete that in a week or two and will have hit another dead end.
@theFullMeasure
21 күн бұрын
Social should be a focus for them
@geraldclark9280
20 күн бұрын
Compare it to warframe cause it sit pretty around 50-60k every day and it’s the most comparable to this game. The fact that path of exile has more players than this now bruh season 1 ain’t even that old. On top of that only 1 new boss fight that people more than likely aren’t gonna like then nothing until mid late December.
@CosmicD
21 күн бұрын
I'll have to upgrade the most difficult to grind guns like 4 times, and find a bunch of update items for my slot types for that gun, which mean grinding to proficiency level 40 a lot of times , before I can reliably even play the season 1 content. Rightnow i just only do the slumber vally because that boss doesn't have this nasty over the top regenerating shield that ones in the other invasions have. i'm not grinding myself silly in this game, because I don't want ot be burnt out. So the frequency I play wil cause me to play for a small month to really get one character able to do meaningful bursts of damage.
@KalijahAnderson
21 күн бұрын
I'm still having fun playing. Currently farming for Wave of Light upgrades. Got the first one, now need to craft 4 more. My problem is that the game gives you inaccurate information. For one of the blueprints, the place it sends you doesn't get the right options. It's the wrong place for that amorphous.
@MORJDK
21 күн бұрын
Maxed cata'ed 7 descendants, 9 weapons , got reactor and external components for them. I just log in to craft catalysts, got nothing else to do :( Love the game, but i blew through content to fast.
@flexyflex5156
21 күн бұрын
Less then 100k overall. Abiony is a ghost town. Game content improvement
@gnorley
21 күн бұрын
Here is the reason it's dying: Number one, took too long for next ultimate descendant. Number two, Invasion missions are single player, still and it needs to be multiplayer from the the jump. Three the boobs and butt are what drew the eyes of western gamers. Looks like they have gone away from that in favor of...checks notes..... fireman and frog outfits.
@mordconfessor1060
21 күн бұрын
yeah i stepped out since i did everything i want now im just waiting on the freyna drop and ill come back
@zelge_
21 күн бұрын
As a MR26 with a 9-5 and just under 600hours I am finishing up my intercept battle title farming as the only things I have left are farm gluttony (nuh im good) for peacekeeper and get my break X boss weakpoint left Ngl, the first week the game dropped, I was just out of school, and I didn't start work til the next week and I was NO LIFING
@AverageGamer-1234
20 күн бұрын
580 hours,mastery 26,100% access info page,8 descendants and 6 weapons maxed plus other descendants with activators and multiple weapons at max unique ability including Peacemaker and i still play and i don't complain that i have nothing to collect anymore,i log in and i farm mats for catalysts and activators,i do the daily invasions to get the 5mil gold and occasionally i farm for reactors to improve my builds a bit.I still like the game and i don't think it's dying but one thing the devs should avoid is adding more riddles,puzzles and bosses with instakill mechanics,just my thought.
@blancodiablo8788
21 күн бұрын
While I wait for Ult Freyna and Frost Watcher, I’m just farming basic needs and building a stock, Cats, Act, coin and kuiper. I’ve got the descendants that I want atm and not spending my time building anymore atm. With the stupid gimmick season thing I get that done everyday for the coin and since it’s there for the next couple of months it’s worth the half hour of work for 5 million coin a day.
@sammanthony
21 күн бұрын
I’m all good with the game. Still enjoying it. Been helping other people get past hard mode bosses who are stuck.
@theFullMeasure
21 күн бұрын
Good work!
@dannypitt5329
19 күн бұрын
I unlocked ultimate bunny 10 days ago after about a week of farming so I thought once I've got her rescuing Hailey would be a doddle, it isn't😪 I'm disabled and I don't have full mobility in my right arm so it's a little bit more challenging than anyone with full range of movement. Hence I haven't played any of the invasion missions and I loved the story of TFD so I cant help but think that I'm missing out. I just can't beat the boss at the end, I've beaten frost walker I haven't attempted gluttony and I'm not brilliant player, I think that I'm reasonably good player all things considered. So I'm getting a little bit fed up with it simply because I can't rescue Hailey, any tips would be appreciated 👍👋
@charleswilliam8335
21 күн бұрын
Also so has everyone done all the achievements to unlock the graffiti and paints? There’s a lot of that and other things to do and unlock in the game. Small but fun stuff.
@theFullMeasure
21 күн бұрын
Enjoyed collecting all the Records myself, ngl
@JoeyAndTheBoss
21 күн бұрын
4 of the acheivements are to accelerate research...5, 10, 15 and 20 times. That cost real money, which is ridiculous. I spend money on skins, but not something like that.
@LahiruW
21 күн бұрын
I had bit of fun at the beginning and after my friends nagging to play, I played the game (as a casual player, I've other games I play daily and I've IRL things to do). My friends stopped playing the game after the update and I stopped playing it, few days after that. Not trying to hate the game, if you love and a die hard fan of TFD then good for you and have fun. I just hate games where I've to play one bis build to be most effective per time you spent and replaying the same thing over and over again with same build and same character is just a pain for me. The most annoying thing was storage of this LOOTER game being limited and behind a paywall. I don't mind buying skins and anything else in the game but not storage. So, after my friends left I was just left with frustrations of the game == stopped playing. This is my opinion and what I felt and had an issue with the game as I wasn't having fun with the game, This is a game, you play a game to have fun, enjoy and relax. IMO. I've played other looters like, Division 1 & 2, Lost Ark, New World and have spent more than 1000 hours in each game. I love making builds, theory crafting and trying out lots of build and for all the ideas I've and I get each time I get a new mod or something else. I wasn't able to do this easily as I've done in other game, why would I have.... I won't go into details. As he said in the video this game felt like a second PAINFUL and hateful job over the hours I played. If you love this game and having fun then I wish you good luck (with all those 6% grinds) and have fun. 😄 I will be keep playing the current games I enjoy and I might start (70-80% chance) relaunch of New World and most of my current games are getting "major" updates next month so I will be playing those. 😊
@maxd4156
21 күн бұрын
Having fun... but seems that the final boss is the endgame for many people...
@theFullMeasure
21 күн бұрын
Too true
@kylepittman9565
21 күн бұрын
My thoughts...well lets see. I have spent the last 2 months trying to get reactors for my 3 mains that I use. Nothing , nada, zero zilch negative. So there is that. They need to change reactors. Next is one of the main toons I like is Kyle and he is grossly sub par. He needs a buff as well others'. One of the most important factors for me is that the Defense/HP/Shield base mechanics are just broken. This leads me back to Kyle. They intentionally designed a playable class based around shields. Everything in the game can hitscan while attacking from across the map with no fall off damage like we have. Shields are utterly useless in this game which in turn makes Kyle utterly useless. Lastly, I just finished a bossing session where I used 20 amorphs and my end results were as follows. 15 smithereen BP's, 5 lepic pieces....yeah the state of this game is its Hot Garbage and I will not be returning until they make some massive changes. Oh yeah, I almost forgot. I'm 150 gluttony tries with ZERO kills. The kicker here is I actually found a 2 really good gold affix reactors to use but guess what....they are peacemaker. What a slap in my face right.
@jadedone4679
21 күн бұрын
I have almost 600 hours in and still having fun with the game. The game does need clans or something social very badly. I like to help new players but there is no real way to connect with them in the game. Just adding that would help a lot.
@michaelsaritelli
21 күн бұрын
7:50 Big LOL
@cameron.swizzy
20 күн бұрын
I just don’t get why they had to change so many nice features of the beta for the sake of greed
@SMG-CARNAGE
21 күн бұрын
I love this game. Took me away from all the toxicity from pvp games. This is my first pve looter shooter game. It's relaxing coming from nothing but pvp. I haven't gotten booted or stalked😂 I have everything, but I still make different builds for bossing and help new players. Just gotta be creative.
@rx71102
19 күн бұрын
I came back to the game after a long break and holy shit man my face when i saw the hailey grind
@frankydiamondz
8 күн бұрын
5.7% of players have socketed 10 cats in total? No wonder gluttony pub lobbies are a nightmare
@dondiesel929
16 күн бұрын
As a casual player who don’t have much time to play, I feel like I’ll be playing it for years to finish all content lol
@MasterStacona
21 күн бұрын
September is a typical sleeper month for people, you will see based on time of year when players are high and players are low. Summer and Winter updates is when players peak.
@ChaseEdwardComedy-nx6mc
20 күн бұрын
450 Hours played. I'm 4 guns from having all the guns unique abilities maxed. All my Ultimate Descendants are maxed, and 6 weapons maxed. I didn't play for the first time yesterday since the game came out. Once I get the last 4 guns I am done for a while coming back for the October update. Then I need to grind for the 4 mods I don't have all coming from those stupid Keys
@georgeskelton2554
21 күн бұрын
I'm ain't giving up on this game until I craft enduring legacy 4 times 😂
@georgeskelton2554
21 күн бұрын
Most likely not, I wanna try out the after glow
@theFullMeasure
21 күн бұрын
Thats the spirit :D
@Dylxnso
21 күн бұрын
Not even remotely dead, people don’t actually want to grind out the stuff they need but also don’t want to pay so they get mad and stop playing. Pretty much everyone nowadays
@johnnydamm22
21 күн бұрын
mostly the reason why people complain that there is nothing to do is because they have rushed every item and descendant or maybe even bought lved everything and then starts complaining there is nothing to do the only thing i would complain about are the invasions they are to easy and they have been reduced to a kids playground
@generalkhorne2329
21 күн бұрын
I don't think the game is dead, I still have a lot to do in the game (I haven't reached gluttony). I do take breaks when I start hitting the wall.
@KhallStream
21 күн бұрын
I judge it by how long it takes me to match colossi and dungeons and the kind of topics the YTers cover. Like does it take more than a minute, are the YT topics on cool game moments or .. other. 🤔
@Radiant_Silverback
21 күн бұрын
For a game that models itself so closely to Destiny 2, they sure haven't learned anything from D2s mistakes. They are emulating the severe content drought of Red War/Warmind/Curse with extreme accuracy.
@theFullMeasure
21 күн бұрын
For what it's worth it models itself much more after Warframe than anything else, but your point stands
@swapnajoynath1478
3 күн бұрын
How is the new player experience currently?
@ishi.fitness
21 күн бұрын
I definitely don't feel the need to be on this game for 6 hours like I used to do with other games and I find the enjoyable because of it and I think it is me moving into my 30s to where I have other things I need to do or that I allow myself to do. I also have gotten comfortable with the idea that the games, movies, shows, etc will still be there tomorrow
@CRAVEN79
21 күн бұрын
Got some grey pushing through there on the beard old fella 😂😂😂
@admiralalyssa
16 күн бұрын
I feel like even Outriders had a better endgame loop. I had to take a break because I found myself only running outposts. Dungeons are fun and mostly well designed, but having to fight an intercept boss to get my reward from playing the dungeon is a major turn-off.
@saltctrl6504
21 күн бұрын
I agree with everything you said, I feel like most ppl just get very discouraged when they see certain aspects of the grind aka energy activators ext which is kinda ridiculous tbh 6% drop rates plus the hours to craft for something as important to grind more descendants, they might need to adjust that to something like warframe does with potatoes
@guidorussoheck2100
21 күн бұрын
i think Energys are ok at 6%. You only need 1 and you will get at least 1 or 2 while grinding for an ultimate.
@novaDF6871
20 күн бұрын
the mental illness that players have now to "you gotta be everything in the game as soon as possible" is what causes this little "the game is dead" trend.. if player actually play this at their own pace you will be fine.. i have half the stuff in the game and could care less to get the rest JUTS yet because i will get burned out. ill wait until the game has something fun to do again. TFD is not dead. its just that the Honeymoon is over.
@Strangz_ODT
21 күн бұрын
471 hrs in….have every character/ultimate, most of them mid maxed , most of the weapons I like mid maxed / cleared gluttony several times with a buddy and in pugs. Not even close to bored. Everyone has different ideals for completion, fun , difficulty….i love the game so I keep playing it and das it lol
@Strangz_ODT
21 күн бұрын
FYI Everything farmed f2p , I do however pay to skip descendant and catalyst research after half the time has passed
@frazaobr
19 күн бұрын
still playing daily, but just for 1 or 2 hours in a day, I have to finish my buids for hailey and sword afterglow, have to finish the build for my ult valby, have to remake the ult viessa, my only built weapon is a purple one, the eternal willpower rifle, I have to build my guns, and ult freyna will come.... for me the content is pretty fine for the amount of time I have to play it daily, to the people who already has everything maxed out and 1000 hours in the account, I feel very sorry for them, surely they have their motivations to think the game is lacking of content on the endgame, but they are playing it like no one...
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