"character interactions are so goddamn weird. Everyone is mean all the time for no seemingly no reason and characters intermittently engage in completely bizarre behavior." Finally, an accurate high school sim
@coolboyyo654
18 сағат бұрын
class of 09 wishes
@PunchyYT
18 сағат бұрын
TRULY. REALISM.
@antoniocisneros8753
16 сағат бұрын
Truly accurate to my experience in high school XD
@planescaped
8 сағат бұрын
Maybe I lucked out, but my highschool was pretty awesome and people were generally nice to one another. But then again, I went to HS in Idaho and not LA.
@Tinil0
8 сағат бұрын
@@planescaped Yeah, my high school experience was basically the same. I was in the sort of nerdy group that played DnD, but there wasn't any like overt bullying I saw? The "prep" kids were like, half mormon for some reason and all really nice people to everyone. There WERE the various stereotypical cliques...to some degree, but they weren't really elitist and exclusive and mean, they were just groups of people that shared an interest. Then again, that was in a sort of middle class area in '06. My time in middle school, back when I lived in New Mexico and in a VERY poor area was closer to hell on earth. That school is, nowadays, literally in the 1st percentile for education outcomes. Teachers were literally bullied out of their jobs. I was bullied so badly it caused permanent issues that, to a small extent, I am still dealing with all these decades later... Random note, Class of 09 is complete crap
@alexlee4154
18 сағат бұрын
If Tsukihime has any degree of accuracy to reality the solution to the 6 day school week Japanese kids took in the 90s was a massive amount of semi-socially acceptable truancy
@esperderek5383
21 сағат бұрын
Small amusement on the bit between JRPGs and WRPGs that you intentionally picked a western developed game for the JRPG representative, and a Japanese developed game for the WRPG representative. I see what you did there!
@PunchyYT
20 сағат бұрын
i'm so glad someone noticed this joke lol
@FnKtelevision
15 сағат бұрын
@@PunchyYT always hyped to see In Stars and Time
@zombieplasticclock
10 сағат бұрын
ISAT MENTIONED. I absolutely love that game!
@FlamingoSugar
18 сағат бұрын
It's always such a gut punch to see games from this era that have earlier entries with gorgeous pixel art and later entries that were made in the days of 'If it's 3D, it's better' even when it just objectively looks worse. Would it have solved the problems of Tokimemo 3 if they stuck to their guns and either used the pixel art of 1 or the anime renders of 2? Of course not. But it would've at least made the game more palatable to look at. Also, if anyone who stumbles onto this comment has had their interest piqued in some of the dating sims from this era that Punchy mentioned (e.g. Mitsumete Knight, Angelique, True Love Story, etc.), there's a KZitemr named Bapsago whose whole channel is looking at these types of games. I highly recommend their content!
@Aliceintraining
10 сағат бұрын
PC98 had the best spread of art style of all eras. and sadly I feel like we have lost this quite badly. give me snatchers or true love 95 art any day and I will be happy. kannon ruined VC and dating sim plus anime art with the moeblob garbage x.x
@evanmak7837
Сағат бұрын
3 feels like an showcase of 3D artwork. Missed opportunity to call it Tokimemo 3D lol. I think they were trying to play it safe with the story hoping that the 3D graphics would save its appeal. If so, it backfired badly.
@lamiaprincess6371
6 күн бұрын
I will have to shamelessly admit that personally I did not really know the major differences between a dating sim and a romance visual novel so this video was very enlightening in that regard. I hope there is an English translation of the Tokimeki remake, frankly it looks like it will actually be really fun to play. Love to play with numbers. This was a really good video, really kept its pace. You did a good job. :)
@CB-L
20 сағат бұрын
It's a shame that og Tokimeki Memorial games never got translated release. They had really deep, intriguing mechanics and interesting fan disc / spin-off games to mess around. Especially TM1 drama series, surprisingly made by Kojima(yes, _THAT_ Kojima) crew. ...I still can't believe that official Korean version of TM1 (fully dubbed, minus the vocal songs) exists. Made pretty well also.
@reddishgold3492
17 сағат бұрын
@@CB-L There was a fan-translation for the Super Nintendo version of the first game.
@CB-L
17 сағат бұрын
I am aware of that but that's unofficial and came out much, much later since original release anyways
@mariusamber3237
Сағат бұрын
@@CB-L Yeah, most of these kinds of games just stayed in Japan or were sometimes released in China/Korea (due to closer cultures/languages). We tend to forget it, but back then even JRPGs were a very niche genre, especially here in Europe (pre-FF 7 almost nothing of note came out here). Dating sims/VNs and such are still mostly a niche genre... it's just how it is. On the other hand, FPS games, RTS games etc. are niche in Japan. Different strokes and all that.
@Korattata
15 сағат бұрын
Whats funny about the west not getting the dating sim craze too much is that i remember SO MANY flash games of this format on deviantart back in the day. As someone more familiar with VNs, i thought they were a little bizarre at the time with how complicated they were, only to find out later they were modeled after actual dating sims like this! (Also yay Hatoful mention :) even if you were being a little sarcastic there lol, its legit a good game past the parody disguise it wears. Definitely skewed a lot of people's views on the genre a bit tho, for people who didnt actually play it)
@Kaimax61
11 сағат бұрын
The tons of F&M games... the evangelion game... and the miriads of other sketchy flash games
@UnforgivenRonin
5 сағат бұрын
It was NewGrounds, and hell yeah, that and clickable mystery games
@evanmak7837
4 сағат бұрын
A dating sim-like game with live action actors was made in the west at one point, it didn't get enough traction to become a trend though. generally VNs aren't that marketable in the west due to cultural differences imo
@Pavlinka__
Сағат бұрын
@@evanmak7837 what cultural differences? like, games are for boys, so its more action geared? but thats more result of marketing that comes from a culture difference that i can't pinpoint i guess... can you tell me more? I'm not quite sure I understand. I understand, like, the concept and result, I just can't get how we got there I suppose. Also a lot of FMV games were more adult oriented, were they not? That's also interesting. Maybe. I'm not really sure what to think about these topics.
@evanmak7837
31 минут бұрын
@@Pavlinka__ keep in mind that: -A game that doesn't involve battle or action in the west and simply talking with minigames is involved was deemed as an interactive video (at best) or porn (at worst). To make matters worse, in the later years it got the kiddie edutainment treatment, which pretty much doomed the VM/DS genre outside of Japan. -Especially on the 90s and earlier, the gameplay was so much the primary focus that almost every game got an excuse plot. -Localization companies would label any game that focused on storylines an instant failure and never even bother to market it properly in the rare case they would go through with it. The cultural difference? Games in Japan focused on storytelling. Games in the West focused on mindless gameplay. The reason for that is deeply rooted to the devastation Japan suffered after WW2, which can be made into a video essay on its own.
@MinoriGaming
15 сағат бұрын
I have to agree about the fact that anything that presents itself as even remotely a dating sim really feels the need to be satirical and sarcastic in order to be taken seriously in this day and age. The current biggest news in the Dating Sim scene I'm aware of is Date Everything, a game that, while it certainly looks high effort with its art and voice acting, is still ultimately about dating your household furniture. It really does feel that after Hatoful Boyfriend, western audiences and developers alike have been far too scared of treating the genre with any real sincerity without that barrier of "oh it's actually a parody"
@PunchyYT
15 сағат бұрын
I wrote that bit before Date Everything got announced and now I feel like it might get interpreted as specifically slighting it. and well. if the shoe fits, I suppose. It's certainly symptomatic of the things I talked about whether it means to be or not.
@MinoriGaming
14 сағат бұрын
@@PunchyYT Oh jeez, sorry. I wasn’t suggesting that you were slighting Date Everything, I just thought it was a relevant example of that idea.
@whywyatt376
11 сағат бұрын
You should get on itchio and see what the average person is making rather than big developers
@pheonixowl999
10 сағат бұрын
On the other hand people will buy the shit out of games, that aren't "dating games", that have dating game mechanics.
@ma.2089
10 сағат бұрын
Oh I interpreted “date everything” as the type of game referencing those humanized inanimate objects images
@soltythomas
15 сағат бұрын
Adding to the argument. Japanese companies were so sure that westerners didn't "get" their games, that they invested in western studios to make sequels to appeal to a western audience. Capcom being one of the biggest offenders, but konami also went this route with silent hill.
@Kaimax61
11 сағат бұрын
INAFUNE~~~~~
@mariusamber3237
4 сағат бұрын
Ironically, in the early 2000s Silent Hill 2 had a very mixed reception in Japan. The players didn't like the changes compared to the first game that much, and the game was much more successful in the West; that's part of the reason why SH 3 goes back to the occult instead of personal drama.
@Everdistance
19 сағат бұрын
Oh, also, I assume the 'hitching' is an attempt at immersion - the girl is animating as 'you respond' to her. The pause is for your character to actually say the line to her. If your character had voice acting, it'd work, but it comes across immensely awkward without it.
@planescaped
11 сағат бұрын
Maybe they expect the player to say it to their monitor? Wouldn't surprise me.
@JaimersSTG
18 сағат бұрын
Speaking of sincere and not-joke premise indie dating sims from the west, there was one insanely obscure indie game from 2010 called Shira Oka that was a bonafide full-on Tokimeki Memorial clone with 8 girls to pursue and even 2 guys. And by insanely obscure I mean the company that made this vanished into the ether shortly after the game came out and the only place you can even get this anymore is on DLsite of all places. Fascinating game in many ways. It had a lot of passion and soul put into it but they clearly struggled to live up to the scope of a Tokimemo game.
@PunchyYT
18 сағат бұрын
I've actually heard of Shira Oka! Incredibly odd production and basically the only example I've got of a western dev who was in fact, visibly trying to mimic Tokimeki Memorial. Didn't make it into the video because idk they can't all get shoutouts
@NyanMango
17 сағат бұрын
Shira Oka is special. It's got a lot of quality voice-acting, and it's especially charming because in the last 1/3rd of every character's route is batshit insane - government conspiracies, ghosts and all things supernatural start to invade your otherwise normal high school depending on which character you pursue. Also, your angel companion kills you if you fail enough tests in school, which is a very funny way to force you to focus on stat-raising. Gunning for the true ending (which requires all routes) is exhausting and there are many regrettable design decisions, but I don't regret the 70-some hours I spent getting it.
@houraisheperd9721
12 сағат бұрын
Didn't think I'd ever hear someone talk about Shira Oka in present day, present time! I got the game through Gamestop's PC games launcher waaaaaaaay back when (2011) as a celebration for graduating high school, and man. It was a trip. I enjoyed it quite a bit (did 5 routes), but looking back on it now, it was kinda mediocre. The art's amateur, the tonal shifts the routes had really bothered me, it made some Japanese mistakes even 2011 me caught, etc etc. But it was earnest, and I respect it for that. The game's also on Myabandonware, but it uses a dubious crack that may not be safe.
@Bunni89
11 сағат бұрын
Yo I'd been trying to find this game again for years!! Thanks mate! I remember really liking the gay route where you suddenly become a super spy to rescue your roboticist boyfriend from the government by TACTICAL CROSSDRESSING. Wild af game, absolutely loved it
@bunnymoonvii
19 сағат бұрын
Oh, this is why the "life sim" part of the Persona games is like that! Because it's a riff on these kind of games.
@bivcbmtgstgtssscqcrddgtrsm2257
5 сағат бұрын
Oh hey. Fellow Persona fan.
@maxthescarecrow4038
17 сағат бұрын
Less than two minutes in and Punchy makes me agree with him possibly more than I ever agreed with anyone. "Genre definitions are all semantics and where braincells go to die." Couldn't agree more
@Gr4veM1nd
21 сағат бұрын
Local horror game speedrunner who knows Japanese rants about obscure Japanese dating sim series (emphasis on the sim). All according to keikaku. *Translator's note: Keikaku means "plan."
@PunchyYT
20 сағат бұрын
tbh it's possibly the *least* obscure dating sim series I could've picked out of the genre but the genre itself is obscure in the West so it be like that
@Gr4veM1nd
18 сағат бұрын
@@PunchyYTLike I said. All according to keikaku.
@Mario_bland
16 сағат бұрын
Because dating is horror
@BknMoonStudios
13 сағат бұрын
@@Mario_bland *Dating before the internet was like living in the world of Dracula or Frankenstein:* _Strange and scary but you can overcome it through hard work and wits._ *Dating in the age of internet and social media is like being trapped in a Lovecraft or Junji Ito story:* _You are doomed from the start and all your efforts are futile._
@tedjomuljono3052
6 сағат бұрын
in Tokimemo's case, it's literally has ties to horror, and Dracula because the guy who wrote the story for the early games is non other than Koji "IGA" Igarashi, who is now more known for "creating Metroidvania"
@TheShadowivan
21 сағат бұрын
Thanks, is really refreshing to finally hear the discussion on this topic from someone who knows what they are talking about and does not have contempt for the genre
@Nirakolov
16 сағат бұрын
Kinda weird how in school based sims your family is no where to be found
@rayvenkman2087
4 сағат бұрын
Never ask an anime self-insert protagonist about their family. It is a road to eldritch and existential horror that uproots everythingtou thought you understood... Or finding out they're the lost child of Doctor N. Gin.
@caseypatterson7030
4 күн бұрын
"I am here to engage sincerely" preach
@monoside7449
20 сағат бұрын
I kinda can grasp why most of Tokimeki 3 girls route are kinda depressing, well its because Kanon
@vlexonkol8466
11 сағат бұрын
So, its "Cannon" route?
@monoside7449
4 сағат бұрын
No, because there's Visual Novel called Kanon. There a trend in early 2000 where type of depressing story like this are massively popular at the time, in Japan at least, and Kanon are the one popularized a depressing type story like this
@mariusamber3237
56 минут бұрын
Yeah, they're called nakige I think (crying game - you'll be crying by the end, that's the point). So, you're most likely right.
@nb_nb
13 сағат бұрын
Im going to be honest- I've never been interested in dating sims, but hearing about tokimemo 2 made me wish there was an english translation. Like... just structurally that fascinates me. A whole seperate game style for a prologue? Options to have your name said- when games now still don't do that? It must have been incredible to play- it sounds like so much care went into it. Imagine a game made today where the creators could just... do what they wanted, without having to worry about money or the crushing desires of publishers, having as much time and fund as they needed, being allowed to just experiment like that. Like. It just blows me away that they got to DO any of that. All those discs! All those bizarre choices! They got to just do what they thought was best for yhe game. These days, only indie devs get to do that it seems, and they don't get the money these people did. What an idea. What a game.
@jennynoelle6782
9 сағат бұрын
Interesting thing to mention, because you brought it up and it's relevant to present day trends: Angelique is why we have so many "villainess-centric" anime and manga. Basically, the premise of Angelique is that you play as an angelically kind girl (Angelique) in a competition to become the next queen/saint tasked with protecting the universe. You spend the game raising stats and pursuing routes, eventually completing the mission before your aristocratic rival (Rosalia) and becoming the savior of the world. However, the rival character got unexpectedly popular. People started writing fanfics and fan comics from her perspective, and the series eventually canonized her complete redemption in a sequel. From this, a lot of writers and artists became professionals by publishing their own stories with similar premises to their fan works. From there, it inspired other people to make their own... and now we have a growing trend of meta stories featuring the 'rival/background extra/narrative punching bag character' fighting back against the fate given to them by 'the game/novel/god', usually finding love and friendship along the way.
@PunchyYT
8 сағат бұрын
this makes an incredible amount of sense but I'd never connected it to Angelique lol
@qazwer333
15 сағат бұрын
Dating sims like these actually existed in the west. A lot of them being flash games and rather pornographic, however the sim part of dating sim is still there. you still leveled stats via activity's, went on dates, and in some cases were rewarded with erotic content. Which is a major distinction between western flash dating sims, and what japan defines them as.
@Namingway248
13 сағат бұрын
It is definitely not a major distinction. If you look into the history of japanese dating sims you'll find that many of the earliest versions of the concept included H-scenes (nsfw material). Often times, every other element of the game was simply preamble to the goal of getting to an adult scene. This was true for many visual novels as well. I've heard some analysts actually say the clean nature of tokimemo was one of the things that made it stand apart at the time it came out, though I wouldn't take that claim at face value. Many of these works were created in doujinsoft circles and made independently for computers, and it wasn't until the more popular works received console ports/adaptations that they had to make changes to adhere to ratings boards/expectations. In a way, you could say they were exactly the same as those flash games, in that they were independent small scale projects that didn't shy away from adult themes or topics.
@yarghhargh9345
11 сағат бұрын
Even the pornographic western stuff is mostly parody or someone with really poor English skills
@ianhoopes6650
18 сағат бұрын
49:00 During my play though I eventually committed to wearing either the white or black button up and either the brown or black pants. For shoes, I opted for the brown leather ones. During the final year of my play through ,I ended up discovering that the brown shoes are actually supposed to be paired with the suit and will always trigger a disgusted reaction with any other outfit combination. I’m not sure what’s wrong with pairing brown dress shoes with a business casual fit but ok. Once I replaced them with the sneakers I started getting girls complimenting my style. (P.S, tshirt, jeans, and sneakers is a good fit to wear if you’re going after Makihara - she never complimented me for it but never complained either. I opted for the business casual fit because it caused the least problems and when I eventually decided to pursue Chitose she liked it)
@yarghhargh9345
11 сағат бұрын
Sheesh and i thought girls these days were picky!
@alex_zetsu
9 сағат бұрын
7:20 Oh that's why so many anime that have an episode which parody dating sims involve a bomb when the MC is about to piss of a girl.
@PunchyYT
8 сағат бұрын
yeah this one pops up all the time as a visual gag in other japanese media, it's been in, to my own knowledge, Hi Score Girl, Monthly Girl's Nozaki Kun and most obviously, The World God Only Knows.
@mauricioalvarezpino1818
18 сағат бұрын
Huh, so that's the difference between a romantic Visual Novel and a Dating Sim... In that case, it seems I've never actually played a dating sim in my life. I'll correct that whenever I get time. Also what the hell why does a girl have a dog body count.
@jstyxx4110
19 сағат бұрын
15:26 I do find it funny the only SW game we got before the reboot was the fifth one, which released in the PS2 almost four years after the PS3, and five years after the game released in Japan.
@PunchyYT
19 сағат бұрын
holy hell I had no idea the gap between the JP and NA releases for that one was so big???
@jstyxx4110
18 сағат бұрын
@@PunchyYT That release in general was strange. - The PS2 version technically came on two discs, which was due to one disc being the entire game with English VO, and the other disc being the exact same but has the Japanese VO. Apparently this was due to space restrictions. - The Game is a rather rare example of a Dual Layer PS2 game. Only about 20 games came this way. - The game was also ported to the Wii by Idea Factory (for some reason), which that port wasn’t released in Japan. - The PS2 version in America only came in a “Premium Edition” that came with a poster of one of the characters (Sunshine Gumiary), an Artbook, and an oversized manual. - The PS2 version never came out in Europe, only version Europe got was on the Wii. - I can’t confirm this being true, but the PS2 version was a GameStop Exclusive In America. No clue about Europe. - It’s one of the few games I can think of to release in the US without a manual in the case, others being the PS1 ports of Lunar 1 and 2. Would like to see you cover it as it’s one of the last US PS2 games to release that was NOT a Sports game or Licensed game. Also technically isn’t quite 5 years: JPN Release: July 7th, 2005 US release: March 30th, 2010.
@useless4692
15 сағат бұрын
Speaking of reboots We’re now reportedly getting a second internally developed reboot of Sakura Wars But this time it seems to coincide with the new era new energy initiative, in other words it’s a fucking Super Game Why can’t they just make a good dating sim and strategy game instead of the weird ass arpg reboot we got from sega team or whatever the hell they’re doing next Also why was the first reboot even an arpg? Was it because they were afraid of competing with Valkyria Chronicles?
@useless4692
14 сағат бұрын
@@jstyxx4110jesus, i forgot so long came out that far into the ps3’s life span that sony had already pivoted to the it only does everything campaign
@grimZan
2 күн бұрын
"Rika is a psychopath and a serial dog murderer. Next girl." I lost it at this point xD
@FungiiDraws
15 сағат бұрын
i absolutely ADORED the girls side games when i discovered their english patches about 10 years ago; i don't speak a lick of japanese (though my couple-years obsession with those games did get me reeeaaaal close to maybe starting classes lol) but they still had me importing the PSP version ahead of that one getting a patch and an artbook and soundtrack. i'd love to see a return to the stat builder kinds; i'm not great at reading and the kind of vignette / spontaneous style of TMGS games always got me easier than wading through shinsengumi lore for the 50th time i also cannot stand that dating sims have to be wrapped up in ironic delivery; it's even worse when every localised release of an otome vn is getting the most low effort machine translation you can imagine 😭😭😭 girl you can't do that the writing is the whole point!
@Longlius
16 сағат бұрын
That WRPG/JRPG bit was such a clever subversion lol
@Umbra_Nocturnus
19 сағат бұрын
22:58 That sounds genuinely upsetting. It's like some of the things in Tales of Symphonia, when certain characters... leave the group. 30:56 The face that says "30 bucks well spent" (that is a rather sizeable box) Also yeah, the direct comparison especially between 2 and 3 is rather jarring. Kind of like the downgrade Disgaea 6 had with the 3D-chibi-models instead of proper, lively sprites. 1:15:05 And they lived happily ever after. After all the previous tragedy I almost expected a "or at least they would have if she didn't slip on her way down the legendary hill, hit her head and fell into a coma" or something. Maybe that actually is in the game, but has a low chance of happening like the two RNG-girls showing up.
@Altamyr
13 сағат бұрын
Me as a child: i shall experiment with magnets. Oh no, the color swiels on the CRT TV didnt go away. Maybe i can do the motion in reverse to fix it. Oh NO Rika: where did i get access to energy drinks at age 5 or something? Not my problem
@pigwank420
21 сағат бұрын
What are we, some kinda Tokimeki Memorial?
@benisser
19 сағат бұрын
I kinda like the 3D models, they could have worked if devs had more time to make them more distinct from each other.
@ianhoopes6650
17 сағат бұрын
The way the 3D models look kinda gives me the vibe of some long forgotten cheap digipaint anime from the early 2000s and I actually kinda vibe with that.
@THEPUFFY1231
14 сағат бұрын
Prior to this video, my only exposure to TM3 came from an old Screenshot LP that focused primarily on the one girl you barely touched on this video (the grey hair psuedo-magical girl character), so it was really nice to see this video showcase the rest of the cast and see this game in motion! Well, as nice as you can get with TM3. It does seem like they did want to try to keep innovating and try making the games feel more 'real'. However, the dev team seem to have done it in the same way that Disney does with their live action remakes of their animated movies or adults seem to do with kids cartoons, in a 'uhhhh that's not how it actually works in reality check and mate we need to make this more ''mature''' by making it realistic' without actually considering why that suspension of disbelief may be necessary. Thanks for the thoughtful video! I feel like there's been an uptick in English-speaking people's acknowledgement of TM ever since that Action Button Reviews video, and it's something I'm deeply grateful for. I'm setting up my own prayer circle for the TM remake to get a English translation
@TheKins
19 сағат бұрын
Fun anthropological study of a genre that's utterly inaccessible outside of a single translation romhack. Speaking as a complete outsider who will probably never touch these games - holy shit, the TM3 visuals and designs are so LIFELESS. A lot of that is probably due to the self-imposed technical stuff you mentioned (3D models with shared skeleton rigs etc.) but I have to wonder how much of it was also imposed by shifts in anime trends and designs that I'm too old and crabby to like...
@chaoticdance
19 сағат бұрын
Since I'm an otome game player (playing the girl side games and games from other companies) this is SUPER interesting to watch since this is obviously territory I havent touched at all. But the double bonus of seeing the context of tm3 and how so many things in this game baffle me holy shit.
@PunchyYT
19 сағат бұрын
I wanted to indulge Girl's Side a bit more I feel like I sidelined it a little in service to keeping the run-time down because I have played at least GS1 and thought it was a pretty good time.
@chaoticdance
17 сағат бұрын
@@PunchyYTthe thought and mention is appreciated! They're a different beast and often both the genre and audience can be easily misunderstood, so I personally think it's a smart choice to keep the topic more focused towards just one side of the series.
@scarlettskipper9352
16 сағат бұрын
I'm glad to find someone like me here! I'm also an otome game player and had only played Girl's Side of the Tokimeki franchise, so this video was very interesting. I'm happy Girl's Side was mentioned at all; considering there would be a lot to cover when it comes to that kind of genre and audience.
@chuchuonlinevt
10 сағат бұрын
@@scarlettskipper9352 @chaoticdance @PunchyYT Hey, it's good to see fellow Girls Side gamers! I don't usually play otome games (I'm a BL and joseimuke gamer) but I adore the Girls Side series with how strongly they're written and how their mechanics work--3 especially!!
@kurtblacklake
16 сағат бұрын
Wait you have a chuuni waifu as super rare RNG drop? Lmao, this is gold
@CB-L
20 сағат бұрын
It's kinda sad to get reminded of the accursed TM3 back from the days - especially after seeing TM1's remake news. Yeah TM4 and Girls' side(which evolved into its own series of spin-offs) were pretty good but the scar was deep. Mainly on sales.
@dado__
10 сағат бұрын
Years and years ago I read an LP of Tokimeki 1-3 and Girls Side on Something Awful by vibrating sheep that they translated as they went along, doing 1-2 routes per game. It's from them that I learned how hard the hardest girls could be, because he literally had a "giblo" (ギブロ aka savescum) playlist he had on repeat to stay sane when he had to savescum to optimize stats to do Maho's route in 2. I highly recommend anyone who wants to get a sense of the writing for these games to look the LP up on the LP archive, because they're one of the most comprehensive looks at the series in English even if they don't cover most of the routes. They even cover the death of the genre!
@chromulus2225
4 сағат бұрын
Great recommendation, just looked it up and it looks like something I’m gonna enjoy reading in my off time for a while.
@PregnantAdamSandler
15 сағат бұрын
Learning more about dating sims its become obvious to me that most dating sim "parody" games are parodying dating sim flash games on newgrounds
@cursedaudio984
16 сағат бұрын
Ryujinx being taken down by nintendo ruined my day but an hour long punchy vid has now back at normal depression levels of joy
@voltekka47
9 сағат бұрын
Wait, I thought that happened a while ago, though
@neroyuki241
7 сағат бұрын
@@voltekka47thats yuzu, we are now officially no longer have any active switch emulator project spearheaded by a team that know what they're doing
@daevious_
16 сағат бұрын
What went through the developers when designing a dating sim to make the characters so hostile to you? From what little I've seen of the series, Tokimemi Memorial is about the fantasy of a high-school romance. Having the first reaction of the main girl being rudely dismissive just kills the fantasy.
@teruienages962
3 сағат бұрын
I think they figured they were making it a "challenge" this time.
@AccelDie
17 сағат бұрын
Now that I am seeing this video and the existance of the Rival Schools Dating Sim starts making sense... Not implying that you should make a video on it... But maybe...
@useless4692
14 сағат бұрын
There was a KOF one too with Kyo
@AccelDie
13 сағат бұрын
@@useless4692 I played that! (A Spanish translation has been out for a while and I'm a native Spanish speaker) It's not a Dating Sim, at least not fully like KOF for girls or Days of Memories, it's more of an amalgamation of Life Sim, RPG, Visual Novel with a weird Fighting game inspired combat system. It's like persona in a way, with cool random events expected of a Japanese life sim. The only dating sim-like system is doing their events, the more they like you, the more likely they will go into the KOF Tournament with you, You also have to take care of your friends when Iori attacks them, to keep their friendship afloat.
@chuchuonlinevt
10 сағат бұрын
This was a really in-depth video, and I'm glad to see that someone who genuinely Gets It and has love for the dating sim genre (and Tokimemo!) did a deep dive on TokiMemo3! I'm a HUGE fan of the Girls Side series (almost half of my VODs are playthroughs of said series, and Girls Side 3 is what I personally consider to be the best Tokimemo game after TM2)--Tokimemo 3's date outfit mechanic seems to be a really, really rough version of what would be the Girls Side Outfit System, which is a super detailed, in-depth stat/luck system that I can best describe as outfitting your character with a weapons and armory loadout in action rpgs. It really is kind of a shame to see that the Girls Side series gets written off as "silly girls games/that silly otome spinoff series" or forgotten, because the producer behind it (and Love Plus!) as well as the team were firing on all cylinders in terms of writing, art, and mechanics. Setting that aside, thank you for your sacrifice in playing 3, and also, thank you 3 for dying so that Girls Side could live (although they're still all trapped on the 3DS and PSP respectively still, and we don't talk about Girls Side 4, oof)
@MF4F
4 сағат бұрын
Get out of these comments, Chu!
@vagrant2863
15 сағат бұрын
Perhaps people think that romance can't stand on its own for some reason
@teruienages962
4 сағат бұрын
Well no, not really. Again, to make a point of what he said, there are still about a zillion romance visual novels that are incredibly popular in Japan and reasonably popular in the west, everything from Katawa Shoujou to the many many Steam and Switch eshop games that are plentiful and everywhere.... just not THIS particular GENRE of romance games that are all about the numbers and stat building.
@pikamoustache1146
15 сағат бұрын
as someone who played every tokimeki memorial girl's side (except 4) and enjoyed them a lot it's interesting to see a video essay about the origins and deeper history behind the series and genre itself! editing this comment after watching the video but its so sad how dating sims have never really gained traction in the western world. my knowledge of vn/dating sims/otoges stemmed from the super super niche series of "days" games by pacthesis and ive grown up playing and loving otome games but it is really excruciating having to 1. wait for english releases as i dont know japanese and otoges now being on the swtich only completely halted fan translations, and 2. knowing that someday there is a possibility that these english releases and overall development of one of my favorite genres could stagnate at any time due to the lack of popularity. honestly an incredibly informative video and really made me think about the genre as a whole.
@KosOrSomeSayKosmo
12 сағат бұрын
A wise person once said "The fear of looking cringe is standing between you and what you want". Great video!
@michaelhudson3331
17 сағат бұрын
Having played Magical Diary: Wolf Hall last year, I was SO happy to hear a shout out to it. It's a great little game with a lot of silly fun to it. Haven't played the first one unfortunately.
@fanboymaster
17 сағат бұрын
Less than 20 minutes in and I already feel pretty confident about subscribing having never seen this channel before it showed up in my youtube recs.
@AlexofZippo
16 сағат бұрын
Deadass I highly suggest his loop 8 or ps1 uno vids, they’re hilarious
@DovaChika
19 сағат бұрын
I actually played all three girl side games. With English patches. I heard about them(at least 3 of them, didn't know there was a 4th) through a Let's Player playing through three Tokimeki Memorial games and explaining how they did in Japan and translating what was going on/what was said. It was an interesting experience since at the time, I'd only played VNs before. But I also like Life Sims and Time management games, so I got into fast, lol. I liked all three Girl Side games(3's gimmick made me laugh), but I think 2 was the best. Great video. This was a nice little trip down memory lane. I can't remember how long it's been since I saw or played this game series.
@hikkigamer8082
14 сағат бұрын
Girl's Side is amazing, have you also tried Girlish Love Revolution for the original DS? Thanks for the reminder too, going to replay all of them :D
@bits360wastaken
19 сағат бұрын
1:09:35, no we dont, that tracks dirt everywhere.
@vonfolter
20 сағат бұрын
Informative and completely insane as usual. Cheers brother
@samz8691
19 сағат бұрын
I'm not big into dedicated dating simulators (have played games with elements of it like Fire Emblem as I'm mainly an action guy) but this is a very good video that intrigued me despite the fact I'm probably not the target audience. Also the fact your two male friends also have their own romances sounds funny to me in 2, it brings to mind the image of one of them just stealing the girl at the final hour. (and Takumi reminds me of Nils from FE7.)
@PunchyYT
18 сағат бұрын
they actually absolutely can steal the girl at the final hour. Their targets are random and they can absolutely overlap your own target. How this plays out depends on which rival but it is totally possible to drop the ball and lose the girl to them at the end.
@samz8691
18 сағат бұрын
@@PunchyYT lmao that sounds great.
@nickbuntline824
8 сағат бұрын
@@samz8691 IIRC it's also possible for all three of you to just completely fail at getting a girl (either on their own or because you sabotaged each other too much), which results in a special ending of the three of you getting drunk at karaoke and singing about what pathetic failures you are
@alexanderticonuwu7591
5 сағат бұрын
@@nickbuntline824 Lmao. This game sounds great. Shame there's no English patch.
@samz8691
2 сағат бұрын
@@nickbuntline824 Peak
@RetroPixelLizard
20 сағат бұрын
I accidentally made a longplay of Tokimeki Memorial once (The SNES port) and yet, I still don't get the appeal. O.o Fun fact: The lightgun Castlevania arcade game has a secret ending that Is a parody of the Tokimeki Memorial ending.
@teruienages962
3 сағат бұрын
Try harder.
@samuely6423
21 сағат бұрын
37:25 seeing you delete your UNISON safe file physically hurt
@PunchyYT
20 сағат бұрын
why did they make it 600kb!! i'm not made of megabytes here!
@samuely6423
20 сағат бұрын
@@PunchyYT good games require at least this much space
@autobotstarscream765
15 сағат бұрын
@@samuely6423Tokimeki of Duty
@SethKeltoi
6 күн бұрын
This was an entertaining look at an aspect of gaming I knew very little about. Thanks!
@VentusFury
19 сағат бұрын
And here I am to watch while I'm working. To help this crappy algorithm boost your wonderful videos, Punchy.
@shad0wniy
10 сағат бұрын
she's so possessive that "she" is all the other girls
@piotyrholbion
7 сағат бұрын
One of the most popular officially translated dating sims I can remember was the pc hentai dating sim "true love" I tried it and ended up saving a girl from drowning, taking her to my house and helping her best dragon quest before porning. Oh and one of the bad ends is you go gay with a really nice guy friend you meet... Weird
@HomegirlMontoyaDPS
7 сағат бұрын
The hyperliteral names in 3 feel like the true Japanese equivalent of the names in Yandere Simulator lmao
@faylen7919
20 сағат бұрын
YOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO IN STARS AND TIME MENTION LET'S GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
@PunchyYT
19 сағат бұрын
i had so many people ask me if I'd played it on the Loop8 video that I felt I had to throw them a bone lol
@AnInnocuousBlueCube
18 сағат бұрын
Pouring one out for our bros of mechanical convenience.
@Klarden
18 сағат бұрын
I love that "Perfectly cut Japanese girl speech" at 50:03
@dj_femur
7 сағат бұрын
I think at least the Saturn version of Policenauts is supposed to have extra joke scenes that are unlocked by having Tokimeki Memorial save data. It is very interesting finally having some context for a chapter of Monthly Girls Nozaki-kun, where two characters play a dating sim for inspiration for their manga, and wind up writing a BL-doujin featuring the TokiMemo 1 style male friend. I was never sure how much that was an actual convention of the genre or more directly referencing a specific game or two.
@Namingway248
14 сағат бұрын
I feel like it's worth mentioning that girl's side hasn't shared this fate, as girls side 4 came out on switch in 2021 and the first 3 entries were ported I think in december of last year? That being said, I only ever played the first girl's side (and really only know enough japanese to barely get by on whats happening) so I can't attest to their quality.
@PunchyYT
14 сағат бұрын
girl's side was a minor hit but also the gap between 3 and 4 was like, a whole 15 years or something since that series died after the PSP and GS4 was kind of met with a massive shrug so idk if that really counts as a revival per se.
@Namingway248
13 сағат бұрын
@@PunchyYT I see your point, and I think I worded this poorly, but I'm mostly just saying, if we factor in girl's side content, it gives context to the tokimemo remaster's existence. Like, GS4 came out and then they ported 1-3, which put the entire spinoff series on switch less than a year before announcement of tokimemo 1's remaster. I comprehend otomege are a difference subgenre with a different intended audience, but I still feel like these weren't disparate decisions and relate to the idea that (potentially) they've been gauging interest in trying this series again for a while.
@dannyboy1200
16 сағат бұрын
Dating Sims have gone through the transition of hard as balls (the original Tokimei Memorial) to the later era when the love interests throw themselves at the MC. IMO the nail in the coffin was the advent of waifu gacha games. It has all the para-romance aspects of a visual novel and promises a stream of new content, you just gotta pay for it.
@CriticalCyd
14 сағат бұрын
Went into this video with no knowledge or opinion on any of this. I now have strong feelings about Tokimeki, thank you funny british man!
@DemBigOlEyes
17 сағат бұрын
Hey now, dating sims still live... only as a feature, not an actual genre of gaming.
@autobotstarscream765
15 сағат бұрын
Persona Memorial
@teruienages962
3 сағат бұрын
He addresses this.
@Nathan-rb3qp
13 сағат бұрын
It’s likely that the crowdfunding thing was just their way of trying to recover after the failure of Castlevania 64 and the PS1 Contra games.
@Mario_bland
16 сағат бұрын
This makes the youtubers i know who made over hour long video essays on tomomeki memorial 2 and thats amazing
@allideni836
7 сағат бұрын
"But that's also stolen from Kanon." ...Okay, I'm gonna have to play Kanon, then.
@vampireunangel6261
21 сағат бұрын
I love when you show us these games most likely no one in the west has heard of. I appreciate your content!
@23Scadu
16 сағат бұрын
Tokimeki isn't all that obscure. I remember reading about it in a very mainstream gaming mag in the 90s as a "here's a weird Japanese game that will never be released here" kind of thing. I really liked the video though, very interesting to get a fuller picture of what the games and the genre actually were.
@diornodiovanna1151
5 сағат бұрын
The models look like KIller7 models without the harsh shading
@qchtohere8636
17 сағат бұрын
I hope Konami lets Bloober revive this franchise too...
@amyrlinn
20 сағат бұрын
how IS kazupoon running it blindfolded, anyway?? obviously the skill ups/downs have audio cues, so i'm assuming he knows the variance well enough and when certain girls trigger at stats to intuit his progress on the way? since he's going for the shiori route, that has to be pretty intricate and i'm assuming has a large chance of failure if the rng just really decides to roger him on certain days
@PunchyYT
20 сағат бұрын
I sincerely have no idea I've watched him do it a few times and I still don't really understand the methodology lol
@osakanone
13 сағат бұрын
Okay thank-you for expressly explaining dating sims as different to visual novels and detailing the mechanic stuff lol I was so confused by this until then. That was the moment you put yourself over as a youtuber for me and I clicked subscribe. Thankyou magic skeleton.
@sen6516
21 сағат бұрын
Always enjoy seeing new perspectives in different gaming genres and I have to admit dating sims seems to be new one for me. Curious esp. since it's mostly a Japanese phenomenon
@th3TwistedLight
19 сағат бұрын
I was drunk but this video made me sober. This is a compliment.
@tinytanaka8779
6 сағат бұрын
I doubt anyone will see this comment (much less punchy) but I'd like to say this video is wrong on a few things. Tokimeki memorial does not end in 2009 or with only 4 games. It ends in 2021 with 8 games. Because Tokimeki memorial also has 4 otome games called "Tokimeki Memorial: Girl's Side" that are considered part of the main series, with the last one being released in 2021. I will add that technically, one could make the argument it ends in 2024 because girl's side 1-3 were ported to switch in 2024. Meaning that otome games are a much more profitable side of Tokimeki. These are not considered spin-offs, but full-on main games. They're even more complex, because the girl has to earn money to buy clothes. Then, she needs to match the clothes to gain a style (Like sporty, elegant, cute). Each boy has a preferrable style and a hated style. In addition, she also needs to wear clothes matching the season (not wearing too many layers in summer) and gains extra points for wearing items/colors that are trendy. In addition to the stat raising and whatnot. For such acomprehensive guide of Tokimeki it's kind of sad this isn't mentioned (unless it was and I skipped it. SORRY IF IT DID). Specially when you ask the series to be revived, you might not realize that the series will likely only produce otome games form now own.
@teruienages962
3 сағат бұрын
So the entire video is just a load of bullshit, then?
@tinytanaka8779
3 сағат бұрын
@@teruienages962 as i said, its wrong on a few things. Not everything. I think it comes to the wrong conclusion. It isnt that the dating sim was so bad tbey stopped making them. But that the otome version was so profitable they focused on only that.
@ecyor0
4 сағат бұрын
So I'm sure it'll get worse since I'm only 8 minutes in, but this description of having to juggle all the girls you're not interested in with token acknowledgement so you can date the girl you *are* interested in sounds like it would work really well if it was reskinned into a regency-era dating sim, where instead of teenage girls getting upset with you, it's you earning a reputation for being a snob to all the eligible women in the county - "that Mr Punchy, do you hear he *didn't* send Eleanor a gift on her birthday? Poor dear was embarrassed in front of the vicar and everything, what a cad."
@moreless982
5 сағат бұрын
I do really hope the remaster Tokimemo revive the franchise so they can port the second one. While I do think the TMGS4 do help with the franchise while being the weaker one of the GS series, it does give some voice from fan to port GS1-3 to switch (while it's pretty lackluster for 3 because they port the DS version and not the PSP)
@Faynwulf
13 сағат бұрын
I know it's not even the same genre. But I always wonder about that time when games like "Love+" were popular for a couple years. I always felt that was the true end for dating sims.
@brokenmelodies723
10 сағат бұрын
You're going to make me replay Tokimemo now. I was stupidly happy when they brought all the girls side to Switch.
@austinblackburn8095
5 сағат бұрын
Comment for the algorithm. Just found this video I love long form video essays on decade old games im never going to play, and this was one of the better ones. I look forward to looking at the back catalog and wait in anticipation for future content.
@KirbyIsCute
7 сағат бұрын
I remember finding out about Tokimemo 2 way back in middle school, looking up different types of Japanese games and stumbling upon it. I remembering wanting to play this game sooooo bad especially the more I learned about the game and its characters. Years later, lots of Japan only games have came to the West but this game is still not available in English. Darn... I do admit I loves games that add romance options like Stardew Valley, Rune Factory, Persona, etc because I love romancing whoever I wanted (never cared for games where you have an established romance character that you had to be with whether you liked them or not - which I know is a me problem). And I liked how when you got the girl/guy, the games not over, lots other things to do like farming, cooking, or saving the world.
@Clavisismo
13 сағат бұрын
If I had a nickel for every time you reviewed a game with a psychopathic meganekko, I'd have 2 nickels. Which isn't a lot, but it's weird that it happened twice.
@CanalDoSahgo
17 сағат бұрын
Well, I don't know how I'd react if my date came to the beach in a business suit. Maybe I'd find it awkward enough to be endearing. Plus, at least it's original!
@Lexichuu_
18 сағат бұрын
I think the closest ive seen to TokiMemo in english speaking games is Roommates. It's kinda weird, but fits the general gameplay loop.
@KYQ
5 сағат бұрын
You're an absolute sodding legend for doing this video, good sir. As a Southeast Asian weeb in my early teens back in the heyday when these games first came out, I felt like I was one of the only people around to have experienced all these games at their peaks around close to the timings when they first released. Though I started out, and still prefer Mitsumete Knight personally (you get extra credit for mentioning this!), I did eventually get to play Tokimeki 1 and then really solidifying my love for the series when getting Tokimeki 2 upon release. I was utterly disgusted at Tokimeki 3 when I first laid my eyes on its early promo art and refused to even buy the game for what felt like years. It wasn't until my first trip to a Book-Off in Japan during a high-school graduation celebration trip with my friends did I finally pick up the Limited Edition of the game did I finally play it. I wondered why the grotesquely gigantic pink box of doom that housed the game and its goodies was so cheap - and your video explains it very well why so. I did enjoy 3 to the best of my ability and was able to come to grips with many of the weird features, as (perhaps as copium) I regarded them as 'innovative' features that upped the realism. But somehow Tokimeki 3 just never stuck to me and my interest in Dating Sims died as the genre did. Thanks for the memories though. And you've earned yourself a sub! Great work!
@dmeep
21 сағат бұрын
what other games were so bad they killed the genre?
@alexlee4154
17 сағат бұрын
Mighty no.9 probably significantly slashed the interest in indie 2d platformers when they were really snowballing in the 2010s
@ianhoopes6650
17 сағат бұрын
Idk but I’m just hoping Concord’s failure makes AAA studios wake up and stop releasing so many live service games
@GELTONZ
6 сағат бұрын
LOVE this video. I don't know any Japanese but I was so intrigued by the genre that I downloaded Tokimemo 1 on SNES and played through it...and HATED Shiori because since the game forced me to know her even though I didn't care, she was constantly setting up drama bombs (and I love that that's a term now since that's EXACTLY what these girls are doing). I later modded my PS1 to play Tokimemo 2 (can't disc swap with the normal method) and Hikari was a WONDERFUL breath of fresh air! She was friendly but never got mad at me for being interested in other girls! Also you didn't even mention the insane sub-story games, all of which are 2 discs and I'm pretty sure interact with the main game. One of which focuses ENTIRELY around a DDR tournament and comes with a version of DDR made entirely of Tokimemo character song remixes! So you COULD say that Tokimeki Memorial 2 is a 14 disc game! I absolutely adore the excess and with this in mind I consider it to be the magnum opus of the entire genre. You just...don't top THAT! I remember looking for Tokimemo 3, saw the girls and NOPED out. When I saw the thumbnail for the video I said "Yeah. That tracks." I hadn't really NOTICED it ended the genre but it really did. Like I think there are some Tokimemo Girls Sides they still release but when it comes to dating sims for guys? Not a lot really. Actually what makes me REALLY sad is the lack of proper VR dating sims because we ALMOST had one! Like there's VR porn games and one on one dating-esque VR games, but the ONE proper VR dating sim was going to be Happy Manager...and then Sony forced them to remove VR from the main game. I did a video on it a long while ago ("Is Sony Censoring VR?") and they let you replay MOST but not all scenes in VR and I quickly figured out that Sony had suddenly implemented a "No touching girls in VR" policy considering which scenes could and could not be played in VR. There were also certain outfits that cannot be viewed in VR. Mostly underwear. I've seen some people call the game terrible because they don't actually "get" what's going on. They just see a game about picking up trash without realizing the trash pickup is there so you can bump into girls and initiate conversations with them. Ah well. ...you know, I haven't played the two(?) actually translated dating sims we have: SNES Tokimemo 1 and Bloody Bride. I need to fix that. Though yes I do have Sakura Wars 5 and Thousand Arms. Might need to consider my own video on this topic.
@Cronenburger
14 сағат бұрын
I don’t even like light novels or romance games, but holy hell was this an entertaining video essay. Good on you! Subscribed.
@nickbuntline824
8 сағат бұрын
The impression I've had on the randomization of who you meet at the start of 3 is it basically being a response to traditional romance genre issue of the first girl always winning, and more directly to its own lineage in the matter. For better or worse, Shiori is pretty clearly the "correct" choice in 1 by basically every metric (importance, difficulty, in-game popularity, etc), but in 2 the game goes out of its way to include events with as many of the characters as possible in the prologue, so everyone's on more even ground come the actual start of the story, and less feeling like Hikari is who you're "supposed" to go for. 3's version in turn is giving you a random character for your fated meeting, so any given character could be the "first girl" for a given playthrough. It doesn't work as well, but nothing else in 3 does, so. Also, a fun note re: Serika since there wasn't footage obtained, all the stuff about her secretly being a Persona character only gets revealed in the very last event in her story, which isn't actually necessary to see to get her ending. If you don't see it, the ending just has her being a lounge singer who does smalls jobs in bar across Japan, which in context is pretty clearly a cover story and kinda hilariously implies you spend your entire relationship never figuring out why Clark Kent takes so long to make a phonecall.
@johncameron1935
34 минут бұрын
The reason that nothing nice ever happens to anyone around the protagonist in the third game is that the rest of the cast never has the bad luck of meeting the protagonist and therefore being introduced into the game.
@doctorfury
19 сағат бұрын
taking insert coin literal is so relatable
@matildarose
4 сағат бұрын
One odd piece of lore is that True Love 1 got a translation, and was even on some abandonware websites circa the tail end of the late 90s/early 00s. That, and, uh, the non dating sim Princess Maker 2.
@JohnThems
10 сағат бұрын
I think if the dating sim genre ever makes some sort of comeback in the west, it would be something that cashes in on the nostalgia of dating sim flash games on Newgrounds. That was honestly where the genre's popularity peaked in the west. The mid 2000s were full of those. Though whether someone call pull that off without *ahem* adult content, I have my doubts.🤷♂
@Axterix13
6 сағат бұрын
I could see a company like Paradox doing it. They do a lot of various sims, but not AAA titles. And their games are usually pretty mod-friendly as well. Which I think is about overall at the right level of risk vs reward. But it would require a bit of a shift in their usual audience demographic, as I think such a game, in the West, would be targeted more at a female demographic than a male one. So that would make it pretty unlikely to happen. It would also most likely be set in college rather than high school. I think it could definitely draw an audience, though. The Sims is still an EA cash-cow, while people love having a variety of relationship paths and consequences from conversations in the classic Bioware games, and such stuff is a big attraction for games like BG3 and Cyberpunk.
@maduinargentus5878
2 сағат бұрын
Konami saw the popularity of the singular somber character in an otherwise upbeat game and decided the lesson to take would be "All sad girls now" seems exceptionally on brand for the video game industry at any point in time, TBH
@shadowmaksim
9 сағат бұрын
Dang, even in a video about dating sims, I'm finding "DMC2" hate. I forget just how much people loathe that game. I've always thought it was just okay but clearly that's an overwhelmingly positive view on it in comparison. Yes, that one line was what stuck to me the most in a nearly 1 1/2 hour video. My mind is an enigma. Anyway, I honestly have very limited experience with dating sims, basically none really. I was gifted an imported copy of "Tokimeki" by a (former) friend on the PSP. I never played it since I'm not really into Dating Sims. I think he gifted it to me cause I got into a bunch of Visual Novels at the time...which is kind of funny given the whole opening topic of this video. And yeah, I very much agree. Outside of that...uh, "Hyperdevotion Noire" on the Vita had an expy parody character based on "Tokimeki". Saori her name was if I remember correctly. Her ultimate attack was waiting under the tree for the opponent...and then rejecting them. And that's basically it.
@MeenaHarker
7 сағат бұрын
I only played Tokimeki memorial girl's side 1 and 2. Maybe they make those games easier because it's for girls as I had not much problems to 100% them. They had that voice system too, after a certain time the name choosed became buggy even on other files so I had to change it. First game has some weird candidate, your teacher, the principal of your school, your adult co-worker. All those games have clothes system but it didn't seems as complicated as in tokimeki memorial 3. Girls version seems to work, since they made a 4th one not too long ago.
@BknMoonStudios
12 сағат бұрын
As an aspiring game dev, I would love to play a translated version of TokiMemo 2 and TokiMemo 3. TM2 seems like an absolute masterpiece that should get more recognition, while TM3 sounds like an extreme cautionary tale of game designers implementing things "because they sound good" or "because that's realistic" without considering if they will break the game.
@birdo2617
13 сағат бұрын
Great look into Tokimemo Memorial I hope if this video does numbers, perhaps a a video about girls side might manifest, I'd love to know more about that.
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