And KZitem is 'killing' the music industry. But are the current problems really the result of the consumer medium? Massive industries collapsing under the weight of their inability to stay in touch with their real consumers seems to me like this should be a lesson learned by the studios as one of the necessity of change, rather than one that gets repeatedly turned back on consumers as blackmail. If Stockholm Syndrome is real, sorry for being a bit intensitive - but this is Stockholm Syndrome. Rewarding the big industry holding all the power because it didn't act like and churn out total garbage for once, refusing to accept even the possibility of an alternative economy that would stop the consumer-studio relationship from being so wildly biased, a relationship based on financial abuse (overpricing, mainly, but also the economic fallout of supporting and bailing these suckers out when they overextend and and loose the approximate GDP of a LEDC) which blames and victimises the consumer, not the corporate giant, and the long-standing idea that maybe if we (the consumer) were less demanding, if we supported them more, if we were more sympathetic to the suffering of the overworked, overstressed execs that just had a long day and don't want to be nagged, then maybe the industry will change... Actually, I get the feeling it isn't the consumer relationship that's the genuinely abusive one in Hollywood. It's the one with it's artists. I was being facetious before, but the studios do actually need to treat their artists better. And to the actual point, the change or die scenario should be on the shoulders of the studio. Not the audience, and not the artists. We 'millenials' did not kill the roadshow. The roadshow got its identity stolen, then it got mugged, then murdered, and finally laid at the feet of the millennials, who got blamed, billed and who are the primary sufferers of it's loss because they are expected to mourn it's dignity rather than (rightly) rob its corpse and come up with something new.
@TheAnomaly00
5 жыл бұрын
@@luciesimpson6437 Dude...it's a fucking joke. Like holy shit
@LukeSparrow221
5 жыл бұрын
@@TheAnomaly00 Obviously not a dude. It's not that tough to read a name.
@AlohaDucky
5 жыл бұрын
xizar I’m laughing so hard right now. :D >___< :)
@spatalottakittens
5 жыл бұрын
@Kaveighleen Jacaster I'm glad to know I'm not the only person who calls my female friends "dude", or some nickname along those lines.
@geniehossain3738
4 жыл бұрын
“It’s a streaming world. I don’t like going outside.” This aged like fine wine.
@DementedGodsend
3 жыл бұрын
I came here for this comment. It's weird to see things from the before time....
@Horatio787
3 жыл бұрын
2020, "Oh you like STREAMING DO YOU? HOW ABOUT MORE STREAMING THAN YOUR WILDEST DREAMS!"
@dzonbrodi514
3 жыл бұрын
Yeah it's a case of be careful what you wish for, isn't it
@locatedonearth8695
3 жыл бұрын
@@Horatio787 S T R E A M YOUR D R E A M S
@ThatsGoodToast1
3 жыл бұрын
And is still aging in September of 2021...
@geminaljane
5 жыл бұрын
Movies killed the plays, television killed the movies, and the internet killed the television. oh and video killed the radio star
@timy9197
5 жыл бұрын
Best. Comment. EVAR!
@mountbuckekreative4044
5 жыл бұрын
@Softy ...or the 'internet radio'
@wolfdude7126
5 жыл бұрын
wrong, big business, capitalism evolution killed quality. Its all about animation, violence, sci-fi ultra adrenaline ADHD satisfaction
@jaimeeleebaggley
5 жыл бұрын
I like you
5 жыл бұрын
Yeah... in my mind and in my heart...
@curiousKuro16
5 жыл бұрын
Its amazing to me how the lesson is never 'Make good movies and people will go see them' but 'Ah! This gimmick will work forever!'
@TheUncomplicator
5 жыл бұрын
Good is subjective
@DalekTheSupreme
4 жыл бұрын
@@TheUncomplicator That's a good point. The lesson should be "Don't make movies that are chasing a trend that will die, make movies that your filmmakers want to make." I think that you can tell when one movie was made with love and was something the filmmakers cared about compared to something that was just made to make a quick buck (my favorite example is Travis Knight's Bumblebee VS Michael Bay's Transformers quintilogy).
@silentlamb21
4 жыл бұрын
Lots of great movies lose money and lots of terrible movies make a lot of money so usually you only know after the movie had its run if it was a success or not.
@asrieldreemurr1988
4 жыл бұрын
Bumblebee-127 I’m guessing Michael bay was the quick buck
@SkylerLinux
3 жыл бұрын
@@asrieldreemurr1988 Is the quick buck, he's still making the same movie.
@oaktadopbok665
5 жыл бұрын
Lindsay, you overlooked one giant marketing elephant in the room: The soundtrack album. My mom played the shit out of my fair lady, the sound of music and west side story and we knew all the songs by heart before we even saw the movie. This was the era when people started to get the ability to listen to high fidelity stereo at home.
@MelanieNLee
4 жыл бұрын
My mom bought plenty of Broadway and movie soundtrack albums, though she also liked jazz, Spanish music, many other kinds. I love musicals! I'm glad this video mentioned Fiddler on the Roof and Cabaret, but where was Oliver!, which won Best Picture? What does she think of The Little Mermaid, Beauty and the Beast, The Lion King, or Aladdin?
@robertstuart480
4 жыл бұрын
Back when they made original music and songs for films. Then it became the norm to stick pre-existing songs in instead.
@kerrychristensen7204
2 жыл бұрын
👍
@casual-owl
6 жыл бұрын
So, in fifty years, people will be making essays on some yet unknown piece of technology about the downfall of Superhero Movies.
@theoneandonlymichaelmccormick
5 жыл бұрын
Grey Jedi At least you didn’t say the phrase “go the way of the Western”. I hate it when people say that.
@Konoronn
5 жыл бұрын
Hopefully far earlier than that
@theoneandonlymichaelmccormick
5 жыл бұрын
Konoron What? You don’t like superheroes?
@randombrokeperson
5 жыл бұрын
Can't wait.
@TooCooFoYou
5 жыл бұрын
@@Konoronn Superhero films have lasted longer than Westerns, or at least American Westerns.
@LostCosmonauts
6 жыл бұрын
I think the problem with Doctor Doolittle and in fact all movies is that "the giraffe stepped on his own cock" wasn't part of the marketing material, nobody says that line in the movie, and nobody sings about said incident. Who knows where movie musicals would be if it had been.
@HurricaneDDragon
6 жыл бұрын
Erick Wright 🎶 So watch your step as you waaaaalk/ You don’t wanna step on your own your own coooooock! 🎶
@dragonkamehameha
6 жыл бұрын
What's an astronaut doing here talking about movies? Get back to making Dota! I want my Oracle guide NOW
@dragonkamehameha
6 жыл бұрын
Jk of course, love ya Kiwi vids
@twinkiesmaster69
6 жыл бұрын
Imagine the characters constantly trying to sing the verse while trying not to say cock, and useing weird words just for the last word of the song to be "COCK"
@MrHodoAstartes
6 жыл бұрын
@@twinkiesmaster69 In a world where Meet The Feebles brought Sodomy as a song, I feel that is a bit tame.
@westbromdude
4 жыл бұрын
Wow, that Dr. Dolittle sounds like a nightmare. I'm sure no studio will ever attempt to make another big-budget Dolittle film ever again!
@julian2grande
4 жыл бұрын
westbromdude *looks at robert downey junior*
@AngryPengu
4 жыл бұрын
*Right?* *_RIIIIGHT?_*
@UTU49
4 жыл бұрын
westbromdude. FUNNEE!!
@nullunit
4 жыл бұрын
*Looks @buterabassett looking at RDJ, rolls a single tear and then turns to look at Eddie Murphy as he fades into the mist.
@waywardmind
3 жыл бұрын
[chef's kiss]
@HaganeNoGijutsushi
4 жыл бұрын
Lindsay Ellis, 2018: The Hollywood Movie musical is dead. Cats, 2019: *viciously beats its rotting corpse with a stick*
@Foreststrike
4 жыл бұрын
With a stick, huh? It's more like with a machete.
@WanderingWriter
4 жыл бұрын
@@Foreststrike and more like a flame machete
@phastinemoon
4 жыл бұрын
So... Lindsay is the opposite of Toddstradomus?
@UTU49
4 жыл бұрын
I have to watch Cats eventually. Whether I love it or hate it... or end up wanting to kill myself... I just have to satisfy my curiousity.
@annejeppesen160
4 жыл бұрын
@@UTU49 you do know who got killed by curiosity, right?
@PhilosophyTube
6 жыл бұрын
AND I'M JAVERT! I wore out my VHS of Doctor Dolittle watching it so much - "After Today" is an amazing audition song.
@Poever
6 жыл бұрын
Philosophy Tube I wish that this was the day after today
@noahh688
6 жыл бұрын
Why'd you have to upload at the exact same time and make me chose?
@squamish4244
6 жыл бұрын
I really liked it as a little kid.
@Absolutecoaster
6 жыл бұрын
Out of all the musicals my sister forced me to watch, Dr. Doolittle was probably my favorite.
@thevampirefrog06
6 жыл бұрын
My favorite Doctor Dolittle fact is that the actor who sang that also composed "Goldfinger." *GOOOOOLDFINGAH!* **
@wstine79
6 жыл бұрын
Them kids and their need to binge watch Bonanza on the 17 inch Westinghouse television set that's at a modest price. Can't appreciate musical roadshows.
@PanAndScanBuddy
6 жыл бұрын
Whoa, put your gun away Annie Oakley
@Dorian_sapiens
6 жыл бұрын
It's the Decline of Western Civilization.
@Ce1es
6 жыл бұрын
Them kids, being shitty since 10000 BC (probably)
@Voldenmist
6 жыл бұрын
Damn Gen X'ers ruined the Roadshow. What will they ruin next!?
@vogonford
6 жыл бұрын
When people complain about children, I like to bring up Aristophanes' The Clouds, which starts off with a dad complaining about his son being a lazy bum who wants to do nothing but gamble on horses and "farts the night away". It also ends with them burning down Socrates' school, so there's that. And some blame Aristophanes for being responsible for Athens wanting the death penalty for Socrates, so there's that too.
@canalsincontenido
6 жыл бұрын
I really love how they do good movies and assume it's a trend, then do bad movies and assume the trend has passed. They just have to blame abstract things even when they don't make sense.
@d_dave7200
6 жыл бұрын
This 100%. There's nothing wrong with a movie musical. I would love to go to a roadshow like that for one of those amazing, classic, award winning movies. Yes, there are trends, and you can make money following those trends. But another way to make money is... just make excellent quality films. They make another movie musical in the 1950s style that's actually good, and it still sells like crazy even today.
@AhsimNreiziev
6 жыл бұрын
+[Es lo que hay] This is very true. Also true in Video Games and a lot of other things, actually. Although as for the specific example this video provides.... it has to be said, I *will* fight you, or anyone else for that matter, that claims that _Hello Dolly_ is a bad movie. It's one of my favourite movies of all time!
@cjc363636
6 жыл бұрын
I suspect they're numbers/money people and not really creative. So they have to justify their positions with 'research' and stats while not being able to really tell a good movie from a bad. one. So they market movies in trends long dead and are surprised when it crashes down.
@canalsincontenido
6 жыл бұрын
It *feels* safer if you have a justification, even if it makes no sense. Most people do it with everyday stuff, but with hindsight it sounds as logical as doing stuff three times so you don't die. Like, a decade later came Grease, Jesuschrist Superstar, Tommy and Hair. And that was the "hippie musical boom", unrelated to all the musicals that bombed around them.
@FavouriteScaryMovie
6 жыл бұрын
This is a good point. If studios were less trend obsessed, we might be able to have a wider cross section of films in the theatres at any given time. But as it is, it seems that studios are interested in funneling most of their effort and resources into whatever's big at the time and not much else (i.e.: musicals, superhero movies), until it's run into the ground and they have to move on to the next thing.
@aidanchilders9043
5 жыл бұрын
I can't believe you introduced _The Sound of Music_ as "the big guns" without using that gif where Julie Andrews opens fire with twin Uzis.
@SuperWolsey
4 жыл бұрын
I see what you did there
@minastone155
2 жыл бұрын
@@hailghidorah2536 as Lindsay says in her podcast, the last half of “the sound of music” is an action movie
@susanhillwig5784
6 жыл бұрын
"That f*cking Dr. Dolittle killed off merchandising tie-ins." Well, that certainly explains why 20th Century Fox thought the merch rights for Star Wars were worthless and let George Lucas keep them. I imagine that wouldn't have happened if Dolittle toys had been a hot seller.
@arturofernandez4058
5 жыл бұрын
That couls easily be the single worst business decision ever made
@richardranke7878
5 жыл бұрын
I do remember we got a talking Dr.Dolittle puppet for Christmas in 1968.:-)
@Donnerbalken28
5 жыл бұрын
@@arturofernandez4058 That and the Alaska purchase by the US in 1867, the cheapest land acquisiton in history at roughly 7,30$ per square kilometer. (Adjusted for inflation, at the time it was for 2 cents per square kilometer)
@PangolinMontanari
5 жыл бұрын
@@arturofernandez4058 or the owner of Atari refusing to give $1000 in business startup money to some pot smoking hippie by the name of Steve Jobs...
@Joe-xo4yg
5 жыл бұрын
That giraffe might have been a hard sell 🙃
@RetepAdam
4 жыл бұрын
I genuinely guffawed at “I want to work with an actor - a real actor!” said over the clip of him talking to a seal.
@verdragon5591
5 жыл бұрын
Funny how Hello Dolly was basically the bringer of the apocalypse for movie musicals of the time, and then it shows up in the post apocalyptic wastes of Wall-E, which are full of garbage produced by mankind. You can read a lot of jokes into that
@steamboatwill3.367
3 жыл бұрын
and it was the first film released on VHS.
@jessicazimmer8910
3 жыл бұрын
Not going to lie, my deep love of Wall-E is what made me want to watch Hello Dolly.
@ericspearman2998
Жыл бұрын
I still haven’t watched Hello Dolly all the way through, but damn did Wall-E get that song stuck in my head! I adore Wall-E by the by.
@eliasmg9144
Жыл бұрын
Ngl the first time I realized hello dolly was a real musical and not shot for the movie exclusively I got an existential dread
@thylionheart
5 жыл бұрын
Lindsay: "The first canary in this coal mine actually came from the Disney Company with The Happiest Millionaire..." Me: "Huh. Never heard of it." Lindsay: "...that bombed so spectacularly you've never heard of it."
@maximk9964
5 жыл бұрын
I had exactly the same reaction, I guess that movie was blown away by history like a turd in the wind
@DalekTheSupreme
4 жыл бұрын
Same. I just assumed it was something everyone else knew about because I literally don't know anything about human culture.
@SkipperJane
4 жыл бұрын
I only know of it tangentially because some of the props are in Disneyland and they use the music on Main Street.
@InnuendoStudios
4 жыл бұрын
that movie was big in my family, I still randomly hum "don't dilly dally and don't shilly shally and let's have a drink on it now" to myself at times
@unfabgirl
4 жыл бұрын
I actually got to watch it a few months ago. It isn't bad (not particularly great, but not bad.) Fun fact, though, it wasn't originally a musical. It was a play adapted from the real life family and Disney decided to make it a musical.
@SchaffrillasProductions
6 жыл бұрын
Great analysis as always, but I had also hoped you'd touch on the revival of the movie musical that's been going on throughout the 2010s. Between La La Land, Greatest Showman, Into the Woods, and Les Mis, musicals have seen a fair amount of commercial success this decade, even if they're not the big tentpoles that studios focus their efforts on anymore.
@hannahhinners4456
6 жыл бұрын
Lol I was hoping she would mention the Music Man as well...It almost sounds like a good topic for the next video...?
@Mossdeep1995
6 жыл бұрын
To me though, they aren't the same style of musical. All of those have these specific feels of a modern movie with music in them. If Wes Anderson did the cinematography for a modern musical maybe. The closest to that same style was in lala land in the parking lot, which was the best scene in the entire awful movie.
@canalsincontenido
6 жыл бұрын
Does that really count? Like, you could also bring up really good and succesful 70's musicals. Stuff like Jesuschrist Superstar, Hair, The Wiz, or even Grease. But there's a difference between a genre being alive and it being a trend, much more a dominant one.
@ZeroFPV
6 жыл бұрын
Sweeney Todd
@KaijaSchmauss
6 жыл бұрын
I was too. It seems to be a forming trend, given that it's seeped into the indie circuit to some extent (ie: The Last 5 Years movie) and it definitely isn't slowing down considering A Star Is Born is being released soon, and both In The Heights and Wicked have movie adaptations in production. They might not be tentpoles, but they're definitely popular.
@sirunklydunk8861
6 жыл бұрын
Please tell me "Like a turd in the wind" Is the new "See how i glitter?"
@bul13ts
6 жыл бұрын
Combine them: "See how I glitter like a turd in the wind!"
@smjaiteh
6 жыл бұрын
Poirot's Mustache I’M LOSIN’ TO A TURD! ...in the wind...
@camerono.3183
6 жыл бұрын
On a scale of "like a turd in the wind" and "see how i glitter?" how are you feeling today? I, personally, am feeling kinda "Because it was real..."
@GracMahbry
6 жыл бұрын
I ate the whole plate
@carnes5468
6 жыл бұрын
I'm losing to a BIRD!!!
@thrallgames
6 жыл бұрын
It's my head canon that you started with "Like turds in the wind" and worked backwards to make the script from there.
@isabelr3467
6 жыл бұрын
This is going to be the next "I ate the whole plate" isn't it?
@lemonvick
5 жыл бұрын
Don't forget "See how I glitter"
@dragonarmy4208
5 жыл бұрын
I love the idea of a studio caring about the historical accuracy of a movie about King Arthur. And then almost bankrupting themselves pursuing that idea.
@kohinarec6580
5 жыл бұрын
And the film seeming not to be hisstorically accurate at all. Arthur's legend originated in the 5-6th century chaos and reemeergence of independent, warring kingdoms in Britain after Romans had left and the costumes and sets are nothing of the sort.
@sokar_rostau
5 жыл бұрын
I've only seen one or two "historically accurate" King Arthurs, with almost all the others making the same damned mistake: King Arthur wearing full plate mail. What makes this particularly bad is that it's not just 'true' in the sense that the 'real' Arthur lived at least 500 years before most depictions of him, it was true even during THAT time with full plate still being at least 200 years away. This is like depicting Richard the Lionhearted with an M60 in each hand, rather than crossbows, as he stormed the beaches; or a movie about William the Conqueror defeating The Spanish Armada with F-18s.
@1996koke
4 жыл бұрын
@@sokar_rostau honestly now I want to see a movie with Richard the lionheart using a M-60
@actionjackson3522
4 жыл бұрын
@@sokar_rostau Depictions of Arthur were based on 12th-19th century illustrations and retellings of his legend. It's an anachronism as common and as old as ancient Greeks wearing togas.
@godspeedhero3671
4 жыл бұрын
@@sokar_rostau You seem to be optimistic about how twisted the future will depict our time period. I suspect teenagers will be shown talking on smartphones hooked into record player backpacks.
@willryan8475
6 жыл бұрын
you're the epitome of sassy english teacher and i love it
@americossack3870
6 жыл бұрын
I wish Lindsay was my English teacher...
@oof-rr5nf
6 жыл бұрын
Surprisingly apt description, dude.
@dextrodemon
6 жыл бұрын
ouch
@Theninja114
6 жыл бұрын
"Guys, should we make tickets cheaper?" "Nah, just make premium movies and charge more" "But half the seats are empty in regula-" "MORE EXPENSIVE TICKETS"
@MattMcIrvin
6 жыл бұрын
"Make it high enough and we only have to sell one!"
@rotciv1486
6 жыл бұрын
it's interesting because that ploy actually works in some other stuff. there is the case of Jack Daniel's. Pretty good whisky at a modest price that wasn't selling because people that drink whisky don't drink "cheap" whisky. what did they do? rise up the prices for no particular reason and boom, rocketed.
@seventhsheaven
5 жыл бұрын
I saw crimes of grindelwald on my cinema’s IMAX screen. Admittedly it was during the afternoon on a weekday, but counting me and my brother, there were only FOUR people in the theatre. Naturally for us this was great, having a whole IMAX practically to ourselves, but the cinema must be tearing its own hair out.
@MattMcIrvin
5 жыл бұрын
@@rotciv1486 Those are called "Veblen goods": the demand goes up with the price because the more expensive product becomes a status symbol. I suppose it's hard to figure out in advance what has the potential for that kind of behavior.
@RamblingSailors
5 жыл бұрын
@@rotciv1486 Yeah, that pissed me off, I had just discovered them, and they were my goto. :(
@sachielleseptiembre
6 жыл бұрын
"Oh boy... Here comes the big guns!" " *_THE HILLS ARE ALIVE_* "
@merrittanimation7721
6 жыл бұрын
"*WITH THE SOUND OF MUSIC*"
@hammysauce
6 жыл бұрын
I think it's easy to say everyone has run up a hill, twirling and screaming that at the top of their lungs at least once in their life... myself... once a week 😂😂😂
@mathieuleader8601
6 жыл бұрын
the HILLS HAVE EYES
@anirudhviswanathan3986
6 жыл бұрын
"With the sound of *Chhamoone*" The MJ version.
@reesesbeanses
4 жыл бұрын
WALL-E’s favorite movie ruined the 1960s musical trend... his favorite thing is trash. What an iconic little dude.
@emilybarnaby2838
6 жыл бұрын
This was really interesting. It's kind of sad how little pop culture history is preserved over time. I've never heard of roadshows before now, and they were a major part of the history of lots of the films I like.
@timothymclean
6 жыл бұрын
Pop culture isn't considered worth remembering, until 99% of it has been forgotten and the last 1% hyped up to the point where nobody can question its flaws and be taken seriously. (Like, when was the last time you heard someone critique _Romeo and Juliet_ or _Crime and Punishment?)_
@rainbowcitytokyobay
6 жыл бұрын
Fun Fact: The release date for a movie here in Japan is referred to as a Roadshow. Like, for example, Ant-man and Wasp just came out today, August 31st....so, on promo posters it would say "4.31 Roadshow". I have, for YEARS, wondered why the fuck this term was used and if it was an actual English term or one of those Japanese words that used English...so thanks Lindsay, today I learned a thing!
@chooseymomschoose
6 жыл бұрын
Explains the name of Village Roadshow Pictures...
@emilybarnaby2838
6 жыл бұрын
I think "lost" is overstating things a bit, considering that some of this has happened within living memory. A better way of saying it is that the context in which media is created is often forgotten long before the media itself is. People remember Hello, Dolly! but not the fact that it was created to make money in a specific type of presentation. People remember A Tale of Two Cities, but not the fact that it was originally published as serial fiction. The media itself is remembered by the general public, but it takes a bit of extra research for a person to understand how that media was actually presented to its audience at the time of its creation.
@Avrysatos
6 жыл бұрын
Emily Barnaby they we're something I was aware were a thing when my mother was a child. That's about it. I knew about drive in theaters because we still HAD one. (until about 10 years ago. Owner retired.)
@wjzav1971
5 жыл бұрын
Its funny to me that whenever a movie under-performs nowadays, the big studios always whine about mean critics, the Internet Culture ruining the industry or the audience not being ready yet to comprehend the genius of the movie. Not once do they consider that their movie might just suck.
@ЛевАллен
5 жыл бұрын
Firstly, the film is always a waste of time, money and effort, but it’s hard for us to admit that we tried in vain. Secondly, failures often turn into iconic paintings - such as Pandora's Box with Louise Brooks.
@oldfrend
4 жыл бұрын
and sometimes they're right. roger ebert to his dying day could never admit that blade runner was a great film; nowadays universally accepted as a work of genius and my personal choice of greatest scifi film ever made. he wasn't alone; the general consensus was that it was slow and boring and they completely missed the forest for the trees.
@1996koke
4 жыл бұрын
@@oldfrend yeah but is usually more the exception.than the rule
@wjzav1971
4 жыл бұрын
@@oldfrend To be fair though, Blade Runner is an incredibly slow movie. It has some deep themes and can be quite enjoyable if you know what you are gonna get yourself into. But thrown into it cold, mainstream audiences will be left bored.
@oldfrend
4 жыл бұрын
@@wjzav1971 this whole thread is about critics. They should be more perceptive as a group
@abborne1
5 жыл бұрын
"The Happiest Millionaire, a road show release [...] that bombed so spectacularly, you've never heard of it." I've watched this video before. I remembered that punchline. And this still feels like the first time I've ever heard of that movie.
@mikebannwart2913
2 жыл бұрын
now they should release the happiest billionaire, with the plot set around the Game, "We're Doomed" where the current space race is really about escaping a dying earth. Because how that games plays, it would be hilarious and just terrible all at once aka fun popcorn movie.
@12classics39
6 ай бұрын
The only thing about it that we're familiar with nowadays is its song "Fortuosity"; a fun, upbeat instrumental version of that song plays on Main Street at Disneyland every day. If you listen to the park entrance music loop here on KZitem and skip to "Fortuosity," chances are an avid park visitor will instantly recognize it.
@aliquidcow
6 жыл бұрын
"Rub elbows with the gum chewers" - I'm using this phrase to describe seeing films at the multiplexes from now on.
@TheBronzeDog
5 жыл бұрын
There's a reason the floors are sticky.
@pheela
5 жыл бұрын
@Jenny Shull a gumshoe is a detective.... unless cinemas are to PIs what donut shops are to cops, I dont really see how it would apply
@VirtualBoy500
6 жыл бұрын
Christopher Plummer: Replacing Problematic Movie Stars for Over 50 Years
@etanaedelman9011
6 жыл бұрын
She really missed the opportunity for a joke there.
@1987MartinT
5 жыл бұрын
Yeah, he's made a career out of being one of the most reliable people in the industry. Of course the filmmakers could save themselves a lot of trouble by starting out hiring him.
@benjaminwilliams8030
5 жыл бұрын
Plus he is a great actor
@gordonscott6180
5 жыл бұрын
Well, when you're having issues with a giant piece of shit, it only makes sense to call in a Plummer.
@urockit2011
4 жыл бұрын
Gordon Scott you, sir, win the internet game today
@Cronosonic
3 жыл бұрын
I find it hilarious that Dr. Dolittle of all musicals ended up killing tie-in merch to the point where Fox later signed away those rights to George Lucas for Star Wars, only to learn the hard way that Star Wars was a perfect merchandising vehicle and they just signed away the film's biggest revenue stream.
@stevethepocket
3 жыл бұрын
And with it, the means to secure the rights to the equally-profitable sequels; Lucas made so much money off that merch that he was able to fund them out of pocket. No wonder buying the rights to a movie nowadays always includes full perpetual control over the IP.
@JulioLenin88
Жыл бұрын
4 years later and after a disastrous summer blockbuster season, the words of Lindsay came true
@michaeladkins6
6 ай бұрын
Then came Barbenheimer!
@jonathandbeer
6 жыл бұрын
I'm genuinely impressed you were able to keep it together through 'lost in time like turds in the wind'.
@smjaiteh
6 жыл бұрын
Jonathan Beer🤔... ⏳ 🌬💩
@ETFL13
6 жыл бұрын
... I thought it was ‘birds in the wind’ cause turds doesn’t make sense like...?
@FoxDragon
6 жыл бұрын
I'm guessing there were a few takes for that bit
@1980rlquinn
6 жыл бұрын
Someone please make a parody Kansas song, "All we are is turds in the wind"
@naten1570
6 жыл бұрын
But with venom’s voice
@bunnyfreakz
6 жыл бұрын
I wish my future is bright as Lindsay skin.
@wopac53
6 жыл бұрын
all I see are those bright lips
@HumansFreshlyBorn
6 жыл бұрын
bunnyfreakz future is *as* bright
@9sippi3
6 жыл бұрын
I'm a simple man. When I see a Lindsay Ellis video, I make a 267 column excel and analyse which aspects of this video were good and which were bad. And then I press like.
@BaroquerChick
5 жыл бұрын
Thank you, India for just saying "fuck it" and making damn near everything a musical (and also for hiring vocal talent dear god I hate that Hollywood won't just hire singers to sing)
@InfiniteText
6 жыл бұрын
I love learning ...THIS is what good technology in good hands looks like
@DiabolicalPaperClip
6 жыл бұрын
Literally! I love when videos that set out to inform are actually well set out and not baity and shocking.
@nicolemiller7760
6 жыл бұрын
This is the kind of content that makes video essays legitimate
@GigawingsVideo
6 жыл бұрын
She doesn't bring social and economical implication of that era though. Her essay revolves more around the companies and actors.
@smjaiteh
6 жыл бұрын
I do think we’re getting closer and closer to a true Superhero musical. It shouldn’t be THAT hard, Disney.
@ButtercheeseYay
6 жыл бұрын
I guess Dr. Horrible doesn't count, since it wasn't a theatrical release.
@PhilosophyTube
6 жыл бұрын
I mean superhero films are kinda like musicals already: people have big emotions and put on costumes to process them but then instead of singing they have a big powered up fight...
@neilprice513
6 жыл бұрын
If it was a satire Superhero flick, then it could be funny as hell. I think "The Tick" would make a good musical ;op
@Joris0815
6 жыл бұрын
I think Deadpool would be perfect
@maggie5990
6 жыл бұрын
Captain America: the First Avenger had a musical number and it was great
@howdyhowdyhelga
6 жыл бұрын
If hollywood wants me to get off my ass and go to a theatre to watch their films, maybe lower the damn ticket price so it isn't cheaper to wait for it on Netflix?
@micahcook2408
5 жыл бұрын
And also start to mix quality movies, commercial movies, and quality commercial movies.... it’s starting to feel like everything is to make a buck than the opposite
@orbusg8451
5 жыл бұрын
Not just ticket prices, the food prices is highway robbery. Last movie I went to the popcorn cost more than the movie ticket! Then I didn't have enough left for a drink cause they were charging 4$ for a simple bottle of water, and even more for anything else. That is insanity.
@koloth5139
4 жыл бұрын
Go to the early show on Sunday. Especially the second week out. You will be practically alone in the theater and they charge way less. I typically pay about $5.50 to see a movie. Which isn't to much worse than it was in the 90s when I was paying $4.25. As for food I just go to a semi nice place after. I would rather pay $13 for the enchilada platter than the same for a hotdog and drink.
@jaymiechan
4 жыл бұрын
@@orbusg8451 in that case, blame the movie studios themselves. Theaters make jack and shit on tickets; the bulk of the ticket cost is in how much the studio wants in addition to reel rental costs. So the only way for the theater to make some profit is in the food/drink.
@megberts4069
4 жыл бұрын
In Australia you’re looking at $15-$25 a ticket at the cinema... for a film idk if I’m even going to like? I don’t think so 🙄
@ColeArmstrongSF
4 жыл бұрын
Hollywood, 2019: "Millenials are killing the movie industry!" COVID-19: "Hold my beer."
@jimslancio
Жыл бұрын
I remember when people were saying what a bad year 2019 had been, and hoping 2020 would be better.
@CreepsMcPasta
6 жыл бұрын
Okay but if big budget musicals were to return can we please have a standard of hiring actors on their singing abilities, not their star power. Case and point- the abysmal performance of Russel Crowe in Les Mis
@mathieuleader8601
6 жыл бұрын
fancy seeing you here
@MsRedNebulaPlays
6 жыл бұрын
After reading the reviews, Crowe did better than I thought he was going to. Not good, mind you, but my expectations were low enough to almost accept him as Javert.
@arellajardin2323
6 жыл бұрын
I remember the Nostalgia Critic doing a video about whether or not it’s okay to dub over an actor with a singer’s voice. It was a pretty well thought out critique.
@GeorgeThoughts
6 жыл бұрын
Pierce Brosnan in Mama Mia can't sing either.. in fact none of the male cast can..
@TwelvetreeZ
6 жыл бұрын
@@danielskaluba5520 Gosling wasn't Crowe levels of terrible though, his singing was more 'meh' than 'kill it, kill it with fire'
@samshep6865
6 жыл бұрын
There's nothing quite like discovering a new youtuber, binging their videos, and then have them upload a 25 minute video about an interesting topic. :D
@MisterCasket
6 жыл бұрын
A 'new' youtuber? I think you mean new to you ;)
@r0bw00d
6 жыл бұрын
Yeah, Lindsay's been around since back when Channel A-Word was called the League of Super Critics. She got her start as the Nostalgia Chick.
@ArticBeauty
6 жыл бұрын
@@MisterCasket i'm pretty sure that's exactly what they meant. no need to be snotty about it.
@Dorian_sapiens
6 жыл бұрын
yeemo fanta Glad to have you with us!
@heartlknj
6 жыл бұрын
I completely agree, I binged 10+ videos since discovering this channel yesterday
@mylifeafterbreakfast
6 жыл бұрын
Christopher Plummer, replacing problematic white men in movies from 1967 to 2017!! 470 likes!! Thanks guys!!! Please check out my channel. I'm posting again this week.
@neilprice513
6 жыл бұрын
Well if you have a niche you have to stick with it I suppose ;op
@maripan1336
6 жыл бұрын
mylifeafterbreakfast I thought I was the only one thinking that!
@taylormanes8113
6 жыл бұрын
honestly what would we do without him
@cinebst
6 жыл бұрын
oh my god that's amazing
@MrEwanRoy
6 жыл бұрын
Thank you, that was my exact thought! When Lindsay said that, I did a double-take like "wait is she for real, or is this a meta-reference?"
@ArchdukeOfBelgrade
5 жыл бұрын
I m in love in her video essays. Watching this one like 5th time.
@AmandaDavis6130
4 жыл бұрын
Archduke of Belgrade they’re like comfort food in video form
@Jekyllstein_Gray
3 жыл бұрын
Only five times?
@agent_meister477
3 жыл бұрын
Join the club
@dzonbrodi514
3 жыл бұрын
Yeah she is fabulous. I also love Hbomberguy
@mhawang8204
3 жыл бұрын
Welcome to the club.
@benjaminwilliams8030
5 жыл бұрын
So basically, Julie Andrews kept musicals alive in the 1960’s (Edit: holy sh*t, 1.4k likes?!? Thanks!!)
@lhfirex
5 жыл бұрын
All the more reason to hate her.
@BetterWithBob
5 жыл бұрын
haha she had two bombs of her own - Star and Darling Lili.
@AhavaMath
4 жыл бұрын
I love Julie Andrews! Sound of Music is one of my favorite musicals, right after Fiddler on the Roof and West Side Story
@harpermackenzie1620
4 жыл бұрын
Todd Crabtree how could you ever hate Julie Andrews?
@increible0incredula
4 жыл бұрын
Obviously!
@SandyEA
6 жыл бұрын
One of the most honest sponsorships I've seen
@Majromax
6 жыл бұрын
At 14:05, to alleviate any confusion: the _charater's_ name was "William Shakespeare X." Ellis's narration to my ears makes it sound as if Holder himself was going by that name. I thought it odd, but in the era of 'Malcom X' I wasn't sure, hence my confusion.
@australianjackiemason
6 жыл бұрын
That's exactly what I thought! I was like "ok this man had some mental health issues" until I looked it up 😂
@elfin2865
6 жыл бұрын
Aww, I was hoping that he really did get his name changed to that LOL
@rotciv1486
6 жыл бұрын
well, I feel stupid now. I was like "So they changed the name of the actor so the the pain in the ass actor would believe he was descendant of shakespeare? and IT WORKED???"
@australianjackiemason
6 жыл бұрын
@@rotciv1486 THAT WOULD BE SO FUNNY SGSFSS
@borismuller86
4 жыл бұрын
I’ve long found it’s weird that America stopped doing the intermission. I mean, it’s a perfect way to sell more of that hugely profitable popcorn!
@1rockcrawford
4 жыл бұрын
There are two reasons for that: 1) The work life of most Americans is much more hectic than it was in the 50s/60s, where only one person needed to make an income to support a family, and intermissions eat up time, especially in a streaming era where that’s pointless. 2)Less intermissions = more screen showings= faster profits for studios.
@ethanstump
3 жыл бұрын
@@1rockcrawford once again, the Friedman doctrine adding stress to the average american.
@golgarisoul
6 жыл бұрын
Did... did Venom say "turds in the wind"????
@timy9197
6 жыл бұрын
Lol yep. Venom used the word "turd".
@wereflipper
6 жыл бұрын
And yes, it is from the comics too.
@MizukiHawkeye
6 жыл бұрын
🎶 Don’t hang on...nothing lasts forever but the turds and sky... it slips away... and all your money won’t another minute buy... TURDS IN THE WIND
@Feasco
6 жыл бұрын
All we are, is turds in the wind, dude.
@dr.quackenbacker5247
6 жыл бұрын
Could someone explain to me why they went with "turd in the wind," and not the more obvious and well understood "fart in the wind?" Cause uhh...idk think turds vanish in the wind. They probably would just plop down...
@two_owls
6 жыл бұрын
"Like a turd in the wind" sounds like a line the Monarch might say on the Venture Bros while failing to sound menacing... Jackson Publick have a writing credit on Venom??
@two_owls
6 жыл бұрын
Key to a good adaptation is pushing the central themes of the source material while jettisoning that which just doesn't work on screen. Methinks this particular bit of comic dialogue could have been left with the source, haha!
@JQXJQ
6 жыл бұрын
The true explanation is even way less cool, unfortunately that line is straight from the comic and not from th elips of the Mighty Monarch.
@two_owls
6 жыл бұрын
Been enjoying season 7 so far? (got mah t shirts ordered, woop woop!)
@mathieuleader8601
6 жыл бұрын
yes a great biannual series
@two_owls
6 жыл бұрын
@@mathieuleader8601 indeed!
@hemangchauhan2864
6 жыл бұрын
Death of musicals? Bollywood has you covered.
@akashdavis8497
6 жыл бұрын
Hemang Chauhan yup ! Sanjay leela bhansali, abhishek kapoor, mani ratnam, imtiaz ali, ashutosh gowariker... Bollywood directors sure have the musical genre covered. Especially those ranveer singh dance songs from padmavat and bajirao. Looks straight out of a Disney movie. When I think about it now, he would've been great as the director of live action Aladdin.
@LacedWithOreos
5 жыл бұрын
I've only seen one on an airplane and it was magical.
@ArgoIo
5 жыл бұрын
There is a TV channel here in Germany (Zee.One), which exclusively airs dubbed Bollywood productions. I always get stuck on that channel wondering what the fuck is happening. My brain can't compute it.
@geniehossain3738
5 жыл бұрын
I would love to see Lindsay do a video about Bollywood! She mentioned Om Shanti Om and a bunch of other major Shah Rukh Khan movies in past reviews, and seems to have a pretty good knowledge of Bollywood. I think she’s have some interesting thoughts to share about how Bollwood has changed over the years.
@swarajkanr
5 жыл бұрын
@@geniehossain3738 Till that time there's only one video essayist for Bollywood. Cinema Beyond Entertainment. As much as I hate the essayist, I can't deny his essays are good.
@elhardo5862
5 жыл бұрын
Contents! i - The Hollywood Musical : A History : 2:42 ii - The sound of Money : 7:42 iii - Hello, Dolly!, the culmination of the fall of the musical and roadshow : 15:57 iv - The End of an Era : 19:03
@MyPrinceRo
6 жыл бұрын
the only people i saw in the theatre when I saw mamma mia 2 (twice actually) was wine moms and gays, so go us!
@reikun86
6 жыл бұрын
I saw it with my mom and sister. I liked it a lot more than I thought I would. I never saw the 1st movie. Is it any good?
@bul13ts
6 жыл бұрын
I unironically love Kate and Leopold and While You Were Sleeping, and even I'm not gay enough for Mama Mia 2.
@QuestionableLifeChoices
6 жыл бұрын
There were a ton of people in my theater both times I went, both genders, all ages. There was even a girl and her bf behind me and I kept looking back at the guy to see if he was enjoying it and he clearly was after a while lol. There was also the guy who cheered very loudly the moment Cher said "fernando" lmao
@QuestionableLifeChoices
6 жыл бұрын
@@reikun86 it's the most cringey movie I've ever seen in my life and it is 100% a guilty pleasure type of movie, emphasis on the guilty. I personally think the characters acted more like real people in the 2nd one but you can check out number 1 if you're into stuff like that lol
@extxvlogs
6 жыл бұрын
Yeah, go you, because I ain't gonna go to see that shit...
@marionann6746
Жыл бұрын
And 5 years after 2018, I think it's safe to say studios are in fact actually forcing a trend on life support with the Superhero genre. Like, I don't know if we've had a Hello Dolly moment yet, but in 2023, it feels like the Spiderverse movies are the only ones that people seem to be legitimately excited for. Meanwhile, DC is currently dealing with a string of box office bombs. Marvel hasn't had any major disasters yet, but the MCU's been on shaky ground in critical and fan interest since Endgame, with the recent show Secret Invasion having disappointing ratings. And add that on top of a shocking amount of box office flops from other movies this past summer so far, it feels safe to say that the studios' collective complacency has left them lagging behind on recent trends and cultural changes.
@BaileyVogtOut
Жыл бұрын
I'd say Ant-Man Quantumania will be looked at as the Hello Dolly. It was supposed to usher in a new phase of the MCU and yet landed with an overall thwop in the public consciousness. Other than Spiderverse and arguably Guardians there hasn't been the buzz around superhero movies. Tbh I'd point to Wandavision as the "The Sound of Lady Poppins" culprit. It signaled an interest in not only superhero movies post MCU but also tie in television shows. Now that quick revitalization has worn off and people just seem completely uninterested now.
@OfficialROZWBRAZEL
Жыл бұрын
@@BaileyVogtOut to further prove your point, I forgot an Antman movie came out this year until you mentioned it
@xww6849
Жыл бұрын
I fully believe that films like GOTG3, spider verse, and mayyyyyybe the next Battinson movie will be looked at as “sound of music/my fair lady” moments for the genre by film historians - well received, commercially successful films in an otherwise dying genre
@OfficialROZWBRAZEL
Жыл бұрын
@@xww6849 yes... because they're sequels/concepts squeezing the very (admittedly well-earned) last drops of goodwill out of the audience for these kinds of films, and once those have run their course, the well will finally have run dry and we will watch franchises die a slow, epoch-defining death I'd call it _now,_ but I worry because I've been wrong before
@nickyoude2694
11 ай бұрын
@@BaileyVogtOut That would make Loki the "Funny Oliver!" culprit. Just as the superhero TV genre was dying Loki revitalised it again.
@NerdManReturns
6 жыл бұрын
7:27 Cleopatra wasn't actually a flop per say, as technically it was in fact the biggest box office hit and top film of 1963. The reason why it's considered a failure and why it nearly bankrupted Twentieth Century Fox is because it's budget was so incredibly and massively expensive ($44 million which today is equivalent to $320 million) that there was honestly no way it would have been able to break even. It would have had to have been the box office juggernaut that was the equivalent of Titanic/Gone With the Wind/Avatar of it's day for it to break even let alone make anything back. Think of it this way, as per an 2013 article by John Patterson from the Guardian that addressed the issue, he states and I quote, "It's worth noting that of the 50 most expensive movies ever made, adjusted for inflation, Cleopatra is the only one on the list that was released before 1998 - and at no 15, it's still a major contender. The budget was around $44m ($320m in today's money), the kind of outlay that might have helped NASA put a man on the moon by 1966." So yeah, Cleopatra was kind of doomed to fail.
@guyfawkes938
6 жыл бұрын
Who even gave the go to that crazy fever-dream of a movie once it passed that "point of no return" of a budget?
@NerdManReturns
6 жыл бұрын
Because it would have been financially worse to abandon the film entirely after they had already dumped so much money into it.
@alanpennie8013
6 жыл бұрын
@@NerdManReturns Watched this many years ago and thought it went on a bit. But the final scenes are incredibly compelling. We should be grateful this extraordinary movie exists.
@PauLtus_B
6 жыл бұрын
What +WalterLiddy said. No matter how much money it made, if it isn't profitable it's a flop.
@albiehay5567
6 жыл бұрын
*per se
@nickyoude2694
3 жыл бұрын
The reason why musicals back in the 1960s felt dated was a combination of things. 1. The collapse of the Hays Code which restricted what movies could show on screen (Advantage: The Graduate, Bonnie & Clyde). 2. Musicals, which relied on pure escapism lost relevance during a turbulent era of both the Vietnam War and the many riots that were happening in the late 1960s (Disadvantage: Doctor Doolittle, Hello Dolly!) 3. The collapse of the studio system. 4. The rise of rock music, Woodstock and the like.
@nifralo2752
2 жыл бұрын
And Hello Dolly is set before the great war so its already 60 years out of date.
@arnold20139
Жыл бұрын
Love how some people think this video is "Prophetic". Yet if you know anything about Film History and the Film Industry as a whole, history for Hollywood always repeats itself. Different decades, same problems.
@thomasbicknell175
7 ай бұрын
David Byrne said it best; “Same as it ever was”
@PercyNah
3 жыл бұрын
"I don't like going outside." *Laughs manically in 2020*
@RamblingSailors
5 жыл бұрын
If I recall, movies in their first decades were considered low-class - "poor man's theater", the fodder of the lower class, who couldn't afford the hoi ploi clothing or ticket price. So the road show would have also been a way to frame moviegoing as a classy experience.
@PaulWiele
Жыл бұрын
Ironically, "hoi polloi" refers to commoners in the original Greek.
@Boredtubedeath
2 жыл бұрын
"All these moments will be lost in time, like turds in the wind." legit had me rolling.
@PrincessScrivener
6 жыл бұрын
me: [adores Hello, Dolly] you: [points out its issues] me: I mean…you're not *wrong*
@pandapal13
6 жыл бұрын
I love that movie. (And most of the movies she touches on here) but yea Hello Dolly was made when the culture just wasn't in to that type of movie anymore. It happens to all niche genres. Westerns biblical epics musicals. One day we will all be talking about the rise and fall of superhero movies.
@dulcimerrafi
6 жыл бұрын
Yeah. I agree with that. While I will take Streisand over Channing any day, Streisand was still too young for the role. I agree that it was mostly an issue of timing. A quaint, nostalgic, feel-good musical being released in the age of "Sex, Drugs, and Rock and Roll" was always going to be a hard sell. This was just after Hair came out on Broadway and helped to redefine the musical, after all. If the film of Cabaret was "a musical for people who hate musicals," then the film of Hello, Dolly! is probably the musical that people who say they hate musicals are referring to.
@isadoracostahamsi163
6 жыл бұрын
No thing wrong in enjoying something. No matter the problems it has. Just means you will find happiness where other people can’t and that is great. Obvious exceptions for nazi propaganda and the likes, there is a problem enjoying those. I just realize we live in a world this needs to be said...
@wallaosirus
6 жыл бұрын
Western biblical epic musical. Now that's a niche genre I'd sit down and watch just to say I have.
@jkfecke
6 жыл бұрын
Honestly, it's unfortunate that "Hello Dolly" gets the blame, because it was certainly better-done than "Camelot" and "Oliver!" (the latter of which was a huge success...despite Mark Lester not being able to sing). And while it was unfair to Channing, it's not as if Barbara Streisand lacked the incredible amount of talent required to pull off Dolly Levi. Alas, history isn't always fair.
@thehopeofeden597
6 жыл бұрын
Oh what a beautiful morninggg! Oh what a beautiful day! I've got a wonderful feelinggg! Lindsay's thrown a new vid my waaayyyy
@X_MissMary_X
6 жыл бұрын
And now I've had the intermission music from Monty Python going through my head off and on all day. Thanks for that.
@zainrizwan5421
3 жыл бұрын
The problem with Shrek is we can't ever surpass it's elusive genius in the entire time of human existence.
@nifralo2752
3 жыл бұрын
For shrek is love shrek is life
@KazukiriMishamiota
6 жыл бұрын
This actually makes me think of The Rocky Horror Picture Show and the ridiculous phenomenon that resulted, despite the movie being a box office failure initially. I'd actually love to see an essay covering that movie on its own, since it achieved something that I don't think any other movie ever quite achieved. (It's the only movie I know of that inspired crowds of people to bring PROPS to showings.) It might also be an interesting vehicle to use to talk about drive-in movie theaters, which were sort of a phenomenon in and of themselves.
@Dumpknoedel
6 жыл бұрын
RHS is craaazy! I brought my bf to a screening, and he was incredibly nervous and had a list printed out so he would get everything right... he was super excited throughout the movie - and when we left the theatre, his first words were "man,that is a terrible movie"
@don_5283
6 жыл бұрын
I too sat down and watched the whole thing after countless gushing recommendations, and I too had exactly the same first thought. I just don't get it.
@QuesoCookies
6 жыл бұрын
I'd also enjoy a video essay on Rocky Horror just to give me a better understanding of it. Because yeah, the shadow casts are interesting and bizarre, but the movie, itself, is just terrible. I have friends who love it unironically though, so maybe a video essay could help me "get" it.
@EvanCWaters
6 жыл бұрын
The "rock musical" could be a whole subject in itself, but also Rocky Horror was one of the last big "midnight movies", a trend that really was killed by home video. There's an entire documentary about that.
@scifikoala
6 жыл бұрын
Cult classics are such a weird phenomena. Especially Rocky Horror. Its had such longevity as a cultural event, too. My mom used to go to showings in the 80s and its STILL a thing
@PuppetMasterIX
Жыл бұрын
Funny issue with Dr. Dolittle that wasn't mentioned here: There's anecdotes mentioning that one of the parrots on set learned to yell "cut!" Needless to say, there were problems.
@jimslancio
Жыл бұрын
I read this comment 3 1/2 minutes ago, and I haven't stopped laughing yet!
@12classics39
6 ай бұрын
Indeed. I'll add the details to that great story. In the middle of filming a musical number (I think it was "The Vegetarian"), Rex Harrison suddenly stopped singing. The director asked him why. Harrison answered: "Uh, because you said cut." The director vehemently denied that he had said anything. Just as their argument about it heated up, they suddenly both heard: "Cut! Cut! Cut!" and realized it was the parrot, who had heard the director say "Cut" a million times by then during production.
@lotrgeek22
6 жыл бұрын
I do think Venom and Titans are reacting to a certain segment of movie viewers-the ones who earnestly liked BvS and Suicide Squad. To me, the biggest examples of Hollywood desperately clinging to something we’re all sick of today/no longer care about are 1. Continued attempts to make us care about Avatar sequels and 2. Johnny Depp.
@aerialjordan2683
6 жыл бұрын
1. the fact that I can't tell whether you're referencing the second installment "Fern Gully: No Country For Blue Men" or "The Last Shamala Twist-Bender" means you probably have a point. 2. But don't you want to see gay Dumbledore pining after a character who's inextricably fallen from grace, and who we can't help but watch become a villain? I mean either Grindelwald or Depp, so take your pick...
@jasonblalock4429
6 жыл бұрын
Yeah, *angry* is a market. (Just ask Alex Jones.) There are people who want big explosion-filled Michael Bay style blockbusters full of angry people being angry at each other for two hours or more. And they'll probably always be a market, even if the appeal of such films remains mysterious to pretty much anyone who isn't getting their kicks from mainlining rage.
@linlinsenpai6910
6 жыл бұрын
Titans, I would say, is trying more to reach the Netflix marvel market of superhero TV shows made for streaming services that is violent with dimly lit sets, majority of the heroes not in costumes but some sort of casual clothing meant to look like their costumes and internal angst. Which honestly makes sense to me considering they are trying to launch a streaming service. Kinda wish they picked a different property for it though.
@pandahuezo-menjivar9154
6 жыл бұрын
I know Avatar is widely hated and criticized, but I will always love it and will pirate every sequel. *I* am the angry market.
@pandahuezo-menjivar9154
6 жыл бұрын
MforMovesets The concept for Jumanji: Welcome to the Jungle was cool, though. They could have done so much with the idea of a video game as a framing device for the film, and they did do some things with it but not as much as they could have. And actors playing against type could have been so much fun if they had actually pushed it harder. Jack Black was really the only one doing a good job.
@dirtgirl6227
5 жыл бұрын
Hot take: intermission good. I can only pay attention for 40 minutes at a time
@Shalalacls
4 жыл бұрын
@Rebecca Woolf In my country most theaters still have them! Especially for the big blockbusters... So we can all buy popcorn on the intermission and enjoy it while the good stuff happpens :D
@imaginekudryavka9485
4 жыл бұрын
It would be cool to have showings with intermissions for movies over 2 hours or so. But I would still want showings without them, because I personally usually prefer the immersion of getting totally sucked into a movie's world, over the convenience of a break. Honestly, when the credits roll and lights come back on, it's like I'm coming out of a daze, and I prefer not to speak for a few minutes afterwards while I readjust myself and shake the movie's atmosphere off. However, the lines for the bathrooms and concessions would be pretty long. The intermission would need to be the right length, so people don't either just get annoyed cause they waited in line for nothing, or end up sitting around for ages, the immersion wearing off more every moment. In actual theaters, people use the time to have a drink and socialize - if they created an area for that, maybe with a bar and all, it would solve the problem and honestly create a fun, "fancier" experience (that people would pay more for, of course).
@moonie3866
4 жыл бұрын
There's a pretty big film revival going on that consists mostly of old classics and greats (at least in LA) and I freaking love whenever there is an intermission. There's so many movies that I see now that teeter around that 3 hour markwhere I could really use a mental break to process what I've seen or to use the bathroom without missing any of the important developments. I really hope that movies consider putting brakes back into them.
@TwelvetreeZ
4 жыл бұрын
They do that in the Netherlands! Such a relief to get a toilet break 😅
@borismuller86
4 жыл бұрын
zw0lfb4um Switzerland too!
@archive9796
6 жыл бұрын
Ignoring musicals in the cinema I think a LOT of musicals do need to be filmed People would buy dvd versions or streaming versions of Heathers the Musical or Be More Chill
@lilpocketninja
6 жыл бұрын
Unfortunately Broadway is petrified of selling less tickets and iirc of paying residuals. A lot of major musicals *are* filmed, they just aren't released/sold to the general public.
@kennybrightwell1877
6 жыл бұрын
7991 0313 I agree, although something would be lost if it were to be simply shot like a movie. That something being the spectacle of the theater show. I think the best idea would be to utilize VR headsets for something like a 360 or even 180 style video so people can still feel immersed in the spectacle of the theater. I would also think paying for a live stream would be good too, that way you can even keep the spontaneity of live performance.
@mitkitty
6 жыл бұрын
And then broadway gets mad when people film bootlegs. God knows id pay for a copy of the Groundhog Day musical, but instead i have no choice to watch an illegal bootleg to be able to fully appreciate it and understand the full show. I hate Broadway sometimes
@jasonblalock4429
6 жыл бұрын
Yeah, just look at Hamilton. For years, it's been almost impossible to get tickets, with people buying months (years?) in advance after standing in line all day just for a chance at scoring some. Allowing any sort of home video version of it (aside from clips) would be absolute suicide for the production. Hell, some people think that the trend of Hollywood adaptations of blockbuster shows like Phantom kind of sucking is actually deliberate, specifically so that they won't replace the live show.
@tasrill
6 жыл бұрын
Having only been able to pay for cheap seats to a musical I have to say that one camera just filming the entire stage from the back of the theater would replicate my experience pretty well. If it is a good enough experience for us plebs in the back of the theater then it is good enough to be filmed.
@choryllis6646
Жыл бұрын
I like the fact that the 3 musicals that did amazingly after everyone thought they were dying all had Julie Andrews as an integral part of it. Mary Poppins and Sound of Music movies started her, while My Fair Lady was arguably her stage show. Just goes to show her power I guess?
@michaeladkins6
6 ай бұрын
Victor/Victoria?
@Choice_au
6 жыл бұрын
I'm digging the open contempt for the sponsor
@99RedRedfake
6 жыл бұрын
Classic Lindsay XD Can't believe skill share isn't up in arms about that XD I absolutely vote for more insulting the sponsor while basically doing an ad for it
@Choice_au
6 жыл бұрын
@@99RedRedfake these sponsors have learned quickly to lean into this kind of portrayal. They want to be seen as chill and self aware. They're in on the joke that they're perceived as a nuisance. Ultimately you leave this video having absorbed the advert.
@99RedRedfake
6 жыл бұрын
@@Choice_au Which is brilliant marketing in the end, huh? Still, irrelevant of how much of a nuisance they are, they do help brilliant creators like Lindsay make what they make.
@CrazyKungfuGirl
3 жыл бұрын
Can't wait to find out which superhero movie is going to be our "Hello Dolly"...
@ash12181987
3 жыл бұрын
I would legitimately love a followup to this, with consideration to 2020 and what it's done to the movie industry.
@fish-d6488
6 жыл бұрын
Honestly, I was wholly unaware that the road show had been a staple of musical marketing in the 50s/60s, because I only know it from Repo! the Genetic Opera and its successors, which all had fairly successful limited roadshows. It's too weird and unfamiliar to ever get a Lindsay Ellis video, i think, but god i would love to see her talk about Repo!. It's an editing disaster, the music is fucking wild, the whole thing was filmed on a tiny damp soundstage for $15mil, most of which probably went to paying Paris Hilton and Sarah Brightman for their... contributions. I love it so much and Lindsay would eviscerate it with grace.
@hammysauce
6 жыл бұрын
THIS!
@ThetaReactor
6 жыл бұрын
I caught that one at the local indie theater. Having the creators do an enthusiastic Q&A helps you overlook that it's just Rocky Horror for goth kids.
@honeycombfromheaven
6 жыл бұрын
I'd LOVE to see her talk about it. One of my favourite movies to ever exist.
@tracietrog244
6 жыл бұрын
I love Repo! even with the flaws.
@LunatheMoonDragon
6 жыл бұрын
Here, here!
@aminacunningham146
5 жыл бұрын
So Julie Andrews saved the Hollywood musical at first? I’m not surprised she’s the QUEEN it’s also funny bc she got cast in Mary Poppins from Camelot
@Blaqjaqshellaq
4 жыл бұрын
But her THOROUGHLY MODERN MILLIE was only a moderate success, and STAR! bombed.
@Sharpe1502
6 жыл бұрын
Man, Christopher Plummer is the go-to for actors to replace other actors
@merrittanimation7721
6 жыл бұрын
I wonder what he thinks about it. Must be odd.
@cinebst
6 жыл бұрын
He's actually mentioned it in an interview! He's seen some of the memes about him replacing actors and he thinks they're funny.
@jimslancio
Жыл бұрын
Nice work if you can get it.
@Tamashikiri
6 жыл бұрын
*spits out drink when Lindsay gets to Doctor Dolittle* Wait, you’re telling me the Eddie Murphy movie was a remake this whole time?! And of a movie so disastrously unprofitable it should have been the last movie conventional wisdom would say should be remade? What other dark secrets lie at the heart of my childhood theatre visits?!
@Kittymouth
6 жыл бұрын
I can't tell if you're being sarcastic or not.
@bartistclord1916
6 жыл бұрын
It seems to me that remakes will happen. reboots will happen, Would I rather see them remake an awesome movie, and probably fail to improve it. leading to cries of "leave it alone" and "it was already perfect, then they screwed it up" OR take crap movies that were a fail and remake THAT so it can be seen as an improvement. I would much rather they remake to improve, rather than remake worse in an attempt to squeeze a couple more dollars out of a dying franchise. (kinda like horror movies, start with one good one and go down hill from there).
@TimboVideo
6 жыл бұрын
And get this - it's being remade again. Starring Robert Downey Jr., out next April.
@Scanny524
6 жыл бұрын
And a giraffe stepped on its own cock?!
@mathieuleader8601
6 жыл бұрын
will this second remakle return to the musical format
@abigailrhodes4231
2 жыл бұрын
Lindsay, I miss you so much
@TtimeXP
5 жыл бұрын
One trend I hope dies soon, live action remakes of animated features. (Disney movies, etc) You can use the fairytale but why must it be specifically the animated show. And now I wanna watch sounds of music, heck I wanna see that little Dollie movie.
@mew10521
5 жыл бұрын
THANK YOU!!! I hate the Disney live action remakes
@FunSizeSpamberguesa
3 жыл бұрын
@@gwendolynnemckay9240 I almost don't consider Maleficent a remake, because it did something very different from the original animated film. It doesn't feel like it's just coasting along, relying on nostalgia, which is what all the rest seem to do.
@Avossk
6 жыл бұрын
You were just WAITING for the opportunity to talk about that "turd in the wind" line weren't ya?
@anastasiagirl1342
6 жыл бұрын
When I went to see Mama Mia 2 for the second time... my friend and I were alone and we sang through the entire show. And guess what? My friend and I were so happy during and afterward forgetting how stupid our country is being for a while.
@YuliaLinderoth
6 жыл бұрын
That honestly sound so fun
@Hakajin
6 жыл бұрын
This is a happy story.
@xww6849
Жыл бұрын
In the light of the crash & burn of films like Shazam 2 and The Flash, this video feels more and more relevant
@jonathanbowers8964
10 ай бұрын
Yeah I am pretty sure that The Marvels is gearing up to be the Hello Dolly of the MCU. With the writers and actors strike giving Hollywood sometime to pause and reflect on current trends, it is likely that studios will take the opportunity to begin mothballing a slew of Superhero franchises. I honestly think that Warner Brothers will just cancel James Gunns DCU in a few months and try something else. Budgets will have to become much tighter. On the bright side maybe we can see smaller films (Ala Everything Everywhere All at Once) get more recognition and revitalize the industry like the 1970s all over again.
@arnold20139
10 ай бұрын
If you know anything about Hollywood, these cycles happen all the time. Same problem, different decades.
@henryanderson6752
4 жыл бұрын
Like a Turd, in the Wind - The Musical!
@PogieJoe
6 жыл бұрын
I would honestly be all about the return of roadshows. I love corny stuff like that, particularly in an age where media is increasingly cluttered and less of a unique experience.
@tatehildyard5332
6 жыл бұрын
PogieJoe Funny this was brought up Neisse I thought about this just the other day. I’d love it too but I don’t think it’s economically feasible or even all that special in the age of the multiplex. I remember the Hateful Eight Roadshow and just feeling kind of underwhelmed since that operatic Roadshow experience was trying to be recreated in an AMC in a mall in Richmond.
@jasonblalock4429
6 жыл бұрын
Yeah, plus the studios would screw it up by being tight-fisted. They wouldn't want to invest in the merch and other take-home goodies that helped justify the expense of roadshow tickets. Or, worse, they'd set up price-tier bullshit that would probably just create more resentment than revenues.
@adnanilyas6368
6 жыл бұрын
That would possibly encourage pirating until the full release.
@PogieJoe
6 жыл бұрын
@@jasonblalock4429 You both have good points. I still think there can be similar experiences worth it! For example this summer I watched an Incredibles double feature in IMAX a few days before the new film officially came out. We got a free poster too. A bit pricey but totally worth how great and unique the experience was!
@MrJohndoakes
6 жыл бұрын
PogieJoe, they did a roadshow of "The Hateful Eight", so you could see that cast murder each other on the big screen with a film projector clattering in the back.
@Xondar11223344
6 жыл бұрын
My very favourite musical, which I feel doesn't get enough recognition in its genre, is The Blues Brothers. Also, I couldn't stop laughing at the end: "All these moments will be lost in time . . . like turds in the wind . . ."
@Feasco
6 жыл бұрын
Ah, Blues Brothers. A one in a kind movie. There's never been anything like it. Definintely no sequels.
@yvetteberner815
6 жыл бұрын
Oh man, the Blues Brothers.... an action comedy with fantastic music, fun car chases, and that one scene where the Nazis get driven into the river. I think the reason some people don't see it as a musical is because it's a jukebox musical, like Mamma Mia. I think that just makes it better, though.
@roristevens2810
6 жыл бұрын
The 80s All Over podcast crew really, really loves "The Blues Brothers" as a musical and it's worth hearing their analysis of it as such (from the June 1980 episode).
@LilPinkFuzzyMonster
6 жыл бұрын
That's fair, Blues Brothers lives on the line of being a diegetic musical imo.
@Xondar11223344
6 жыл бұрын
I didn't even realize it was a musical until last year sometime when my wife and I watched it, her for the first time. She called it a musical and I said "no it's not!" indigently. Then I thought about it for a few minutes and realized: she's 100% right. I've loved that movie for 20 years and never realized before. Also, I think it does have non-diagetic elements, like during Minnie the Moocher when the band transforms into a brass band and Cab Calloway is suddenly wearing a tux. After the song is over, they're all back to their drab selves.
@summysums
5 жыл бұрын
I’m literally obsessed with ur vids... they’re super informative and amazingly put together and you’re hilarious and put so much personality into the vids ❤️
@zitamosolygo392
4 жыл бұрын
It is interesting that despite initial reactions Venom went on to have such a massive success at the box office. While critic ratings remained low, audience ratings were the complete opposite. I wonder how much the film's success is thanks to the casual reviews from people on social media and fandom (which in a way is free marketing). So social media might just be the alternative for the word of mouth effect of roadshows.
@TheKingMacgregor
6 жыл бұрын
I can't wait for Lindsey to talk about La La Land... Lindsay, when are you going to talk about La La Land? GodDamnit Lindsey, you didn't talk about La La Land!
@thechosenvoice3472
5 жыл бұрын
hated it
@April_a26
5 жыл бұрын
6 months ago no one cared about it and 6 months later no one cares about it.
@IamMissPronounced
5 жыл бұрын
@@April_a26 except a lot of people did
@Diwasho
5 жыл бұрын
I was waiting for Rocky Horror Picture Show.
@wenedsday
5 жыл бұрын
@@Diwasho I was waiting for AT LONG LAST LOVE
@Cilibi
4 жыл бұрын
This whole essay holds up really well except for the venom bit since we now know that was actually a trailer misrepresenting the tone and themes of the movie. They said scary badass villan when what we actually got was alien action romcom and it was fantastic lol.
@Keinish79
6 жыл бұрын
Kudos on almost keeping a straight face while saying that at the end.
@betterday2570
5 жыл бұрын
All we are is turds in the wind.
@MountainFisher
5 жыл бұрын
Only if you are evil tempered and selfish as Hell. Then you are a turd in the wind out on a windy day. If you do not have a sense of humor you're like a dried out grey colored turd being blown into turd dust in the wind.
@wjzav1971
5 жыл бұрын
@Better Day That is depressingly true on so many levels.
@Turt3752
5 жыл бұрын
Kansas must be a very smelly place then
@DalekTheSupreme
4 жыл бұрын
We are all clowns in the turds or something.
@wjzav1971
4 жыл бұрын
@@DalekTheSupreme What? Are we some kind of....Turds in the Winds?
@MarkyMatey
6 жыл бұрын
The Blues Brother's will always be the best musical. RIP Aretha Franklin
@derekcabanaw1789
6 жыл бұрын
Damn straight. As Henry Gibson said, those cars were dancing combined with the music in those chases.
@robynhoodie
6 жыл бұрын
I was about to say its one of the best car movies too. Stunts done in live streets cause it wasn't illegal yet, and a real mall cause one just happened to be closing. Everything came together so well for those chase scenes.
@derekcabanaw1789
6 жыл бұрын
I'm trying to remember when Dixie Square closed. Either it was January of 1978 or 1979 from what I've read.
@TheDukeofCheese12
6 жыл бұрын
Also one of the best movies ever. In general.
@MattMcIrvin
6 жыл бұрын
"Pier 1 Imports!"
@thewhatness
6 жыл бұрын
That Blade Runner outro might be my favorite thing of yours that you've ever done. Bless.
@elizabethsullivan1894
6 жыл бұрын
It particularly amused me how she's clearly trying to do it seriously and keeps cracking. Which probably means these were the most straight faced takes she could get.
@tariqthomas9090
6 жыл бұрын
Yaaaay! Nothing like starting your day off with a Lindsay video.
@The_Tiger_Lily
3 жыл бұрын
I usually don't think about the fact that Lindsay lives in the same town I do and then a minute into a video she name drops a movie theater I've been going to since I was a kid
@osnatashtaralevin8944
6 жыл бұрын
I really like musicals and for that reason a big part of me wanted the Galavant TV show to continue, but I think I'm the only one that heard of it..
@tereziamarkova2822
6 жыл бұрын
I haven't seen it, but I've seen the clips with songs. "Off with his shirt/let it fly"....
@alanpennie8013
6 жыл бұрын
Osnat Ashtara Levin. Still no DVD. The world really sucks
@unfabgirl
6 жыл бұрын
There is a dvd available on Amazon (not sure if legit, though.) Such a shame, I loved it.
@alanpennie8013
6 жыл бұрын
@@unfabgirl Thanks. I'll check it out.
@wyattsidwell6115
6 жыл бұрын
I loved that show!
@dantheman6441
6 жыл бұрын
Wow, a hbomberguy video AND a Lindsay Ellis video on the same day? Is it my birthday or something?
@minch333
6 жыл бұрын
And philosophy tube, and joseph anderson, and film joy, I literally haven't left my bed yet and it's 2pm!
@yltraviole
6 жыл бұрын
It's the end of the month! That's when all the youtubers wake from their slumber!
@allonsyification
6 жыл бұрын
And it sounds like Folding Ideas is releasing one soon!
@Brassur
6 жыл бұрын
Nah just the monthly deadline for patreon - I think both Lindsay and Hbomb charge patreons per video, and if they fail to publish today, they won't get paid until October 1st.
@ladyvader3173
6 жыл бұрын
@@minch333 Wait, it's still the same day for you that the Jo Anderson video came out? Fascinating. To me it seems like ages ago.
@Igorcastrochucre
6 жыл бұрын
Here's a fun game: go to wikipedia's list of biggest box office bombs, click on the little arrow right next to year and see if you can spot the pattern in the years 2015-17. You'll have some outliers like Good Dinosaur or Monster Trucks, but every single one can be summed up as 'a movie that had way too much budget because/in spite of something big attached to it', be it the source material (Valerian, King Arthur, Ghostbusters, Power Rangers, Ben Hur), the lightning-in-a-bottle previous installment (Alice's Looking Glass, Huntsman Winter War, TMNT 2014), the director/crew (BFG, Great Wall) or the attempt at something bigger (Gods of Egypt, Fant4stic, Tomorrowland).
@sophiebirch1672
6 жыл бұрын
I honestly think the reason that Solo bombed was that its budget was shot up when they reshot the majority of the movie after the original directors left the project and then bad marketing/no actual incentive to see the movie because no one besides Han, Chewie or Lando actually matter. The production was so shambolic that when the reshoots happened, the guy they originally cast to play the villain could not make the reshoots so they recast and turned a motion capture alien into a generic white guy.
@sophiebirch1672
5 жыл бұрын
@@marlonmoncrieffe0728 I have never found Bettany to have an ounce of charisma but each to their own. I think TLJ has some influence but I think the budget and the lack of decent marketing didn't help.
@orpheus9037
4 жыл бұрын
Sorry, I'm a little late to the game - this video first appeared two years ago - but I've got to say, I found it smart, inventive and informative. Unlike a number of channels with videos featuring some movie fan slobbering on about this or that movie, this one is about actual movie history. And the American movie roadshow is a fascinating topic. Look forward to watching more of your stuff, Lindsay. Really nice work. Thanks!
@indi.burger2
6 жыл бұрын
I swear if "like a turd in the wind" is the new "see how I glitter" im unsubing don't worry ill resub luv u lindsay
@BenoHourglass
6 жыл бұрын
At first he was saying "like a _bird_ in the wind." Turns out it was more stupid.
@Thessalin
6 жыл бұрын
Seconded. Motion carries. Turd in the Wind added to See How I Glitter and Stop Lubricating the Man.
@msdowd85
6 жыл бұрын
Forgot about "I ate the whole plate." from the Transformer analysis
@tatehildyard5332
6 жыл бұрын
You also can’t forget “I’m loosing to a bird!”. And “Why does it hurt so much? Because it was real.”.
@Thessalin
6 жыл бұрын
Those are all part of cannon now. We'll pew pew them all over movies!
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