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@jimgore1278
2 жыл бұрын
Great explanation. I wish someone had been around who explained things this clearly back when I finally realised the importance of understanding what I was playing. I played in a full-time rock band back in the '70s that did cover tunes. We only played one original tune and, all being self-taught and unable to read/write music, just played what felt natural to us. We had no idea there was anything different about it until the first time we played it on-stage in a bar and it cleared the dance-floor. At the end of the set we took a guitar back to the dressing room and figured out what the problem was; it was in 11/4. That was the night I decided that learning how to read music and some theory was probably a good idea. (I still have no idea why something in 11/4 felt so natural. The fact we never counted it out and none of us could dance probably had something to do with it.)
@MusicMattersGB
2 жыл бұрын
Great experience share there.
@OdaKa
2 жыл бұрын
I'd like to hear that. Sounds like a challenge
@seangoodrich2980
2 жыл бұрын
11/4;1-2-3, 1-2-3, 1-2-3, 1-2 or 11/4;1-2-3-4, 1-2-3-4, 1-2-3 Frank Zappa composed a 13/4;1-2, 1-2-3, 1-2-3, 1-2, 1-2-3 Tapping the foot on the ONE while clapping out the full count gives us the "groove" or "feel" from which we can flow with the time signature.
@SAHBfan
2 жыл бұрын
You did well to play a piece in 11/4 by feel 😵
@MusicMattersGB
2 жыл бұрын
😀
@dougmurray907
2 жыл бұрын
Love your emphasis on “feel”. As a blues guy, this really speaks to me.
@MusicMattersGB
2 жыл бұрын
That’s great
@jinchoung
2 жыл бұрын
something you said in passing helped me more than your actual explanation... that the beats aren't all equal emphasis. so it's ONE two three four ONE two... vs. ONE two ONE two... if that's the case, then I now understand the difference in rhythm.
@MusicMattersGB
2 жыл бұрын
Brilliant
@facl115
2 жыл бұрын
Thanks...YOU helped me..!!
@MusicMattersGB
2 жыл бұрын
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@scabbarae
2 жыл бұрын
As a beginning guitar player, I really appreciated this video as it made a lot of sense to me. However, I was still having some trouble distinguishing between 2/2 and 4/4 until just now, when I started learning to play "Angels Fall" by Winterpills, and realized I was counting it as "ONE and TWO and ONE and TWO..." ...and then it clicked for real. Counting "One-two-three-four" seemed unnecessarily fast and impatient for a hazy, melancholy kind of song like that. Thank you sir!
@MusicMattersGB
2 жыл бұрын
Excellent. When you feel it through the music you’re playing then it makes complete sense.
@daviomusicozuero151
2 жыл бұрын
Oh my... I was thinking about it earlier today! Thank you!
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2 жыл бұрын
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@TheUnderscore_
2 жыл бұрын
Me too, it's uncanny!
@MusicMattersGB
2 жыл бұрын
😀
@marcolandolfi844
2 жыл бұрын
They hear you!!! Constantly. And read your mind!!!
@MusicMattersGB
2 жыл бұрын
😀
@bridgetmwape7415
2 жыл бұрын
The best music theory teacher by far! Thank you
@MusicMattersGB
2 жыл бұрын
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@jonjeffries3265
2 жыл бұрын
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@chasjazzz7842
2 жыл бұрын
Always learn something new from you. Simply love it!! Thanks
@andallthatjaz836
6 ай бұрын
This is easily the clearest and simplest explanation of this I've seen. Maths is one thing, but the *feel* of the music something else. This helped so incredibly much, thank you!
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6 ай бұрын
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@Xplora213
2 жыл бұрын
The algorithm brought me here. My background is Death Metal and a band called Nile famously uses 2/2 for a lot of their music. They are playing 16th notes over 230bpm very often and they pulse at half the beat for the precise reasons discussed here. You can’t really maintain a beat at 260bpm for 5 minutes, but 130? This might be possible, even if you are playing 32nd notes. Good video.
@marcolandolfi844
2 жыл бұрын
Can you suggest a song done in 2/2 by Nile?
@MusicMattersGB
2 жыл бұрын
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@erik2602
2 жыл бұрын
I love Nile. Technically speaking, 2/2 is the same as 4/4 in half time. Normally I would disregard any value below 60 or above 240, because you can just double or half it to make it a more intuitive bpm. With Nile though, because it's at such high speeds, I think it's useful to think of it as 2/2, so you can see all the nuances in their playing, while keeping it readable within each measure. It's all subjective though
@benetmerklin
2 жыл бұрын
This is one of the very useful lesson for music students 👏👌Thank you so much 🙏
@briansullivan3424
2 жыл бұрын
This is literally the best explanation of the difference between 2/2 and 4/4 I've heard. It has always been something that has confused me, and this makes it very clear. Thank you! As always, love your content, Gareth!
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2 жыл бұрын
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@madisonallen6021
2 жыл бұрын
Great video!!! I'm already in Music theory 3 and still didn't understand the difference between 4/4 and 2/2 thanks for this great explanation! Looking forward to watching more of your videos!
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2 жыл бұрын
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@Hawaiian_Shirt_guy
2 жыл бұрын
same reason a lot of punk rock is in 2/2. I don't have a score in front of me or anything, but The Offspring song "million miles away" comes to mind.
@alongamoemmanuel9169
2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for your time and explanation
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2 жыл бұрын
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@AtomizedSound
2 жыл бұрын
Yes! Can we get more lessons on time signatures and lessons such as this!? Thanks
@MusicMattersGB
2 жыл бұрын
There are other videos on the channel on this subject. More are coming soon.
@AbdulazizShabakouh
2 жыл бұрын
With each new composition student I have I discuss this issue, and still no one seems to understand it! I wonder what should I do or say to make them feel the difference. Thank you so much.
@MusicMattersGB
2 жыл бұрын
Keep up the good work!
@AbdulazizShabakouh
2 жыл бұрын
@@MusicMattersGB The next time I go through it again, I'll show them your (this) video. its the easiest and simplest way to explain it. Thank you much.
@MusicMattersGB
2 жыл бұрын
Great
@BradsGonnaPlay
2 жыл бұрын
I think the hardest part of teaching this is pop rock and metal music in common practice of the last 70 years has been considered 4/4 whether or not it has the 4/4 feel.
@MusicMattersGB
2 жыл бұрын
😀
@christianboddum8783
2 жыл бұрын
Divisions makes a very big difference when you dance. If I have to move to f.i. 5/4 I divide the feel to my feet 1-2-1-2-1. You clearly feel the differences of signatures when you move FWIW. Great video, will be checking more of them ;-)
@MusicMattersGB
2 жыл бұрын
That’s great.
@nigelhaywood9753
7 ай бұрын
This is a wonderfully concise and informative video. I’m glad you mostly avoided talking about ‘common time’. There is a popular misconception that the ‘C’ is an abbreviation of ‘common’ but in fact it goes back to the ‘mensural notation’ of the late Middle Ages. Music in 3/4 was represented by a circle and was considered ‘perfect’ or ‘complete’. Music in duple or quadruple time was considered ‘imperfect’ or ‘incomplete’ and was represented by an incomplete circle. Three was a mystical number and was considered holy. The ‘C’ that we have now is a throwback to those times. The most common times were in fact the equivalents of our 3/4 and 6/8. The idea that 4/4 is ‘common’ only seems to make sense in the context of 20th and 21st century music. Waltzes and minuets used to be very common indeed.
@MusicMattersGB
7 ай бұрын
Absolutely
@yuritarelko9916
2 жыл бұрын
Just found this channel. And this was a most understandable explanation of 2\2-4\4 difference for me. Incredible teaching.
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2 жыл бұрын
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@shipsahoy1793
2 жыл бұрын
Gareth, knowing how to interpret and execute a piece rhythmically is considered just as, or at times, more important than the melodic and/or harmonic interpretation. Unfortunately, all too many playing music fall short on this. Thanks for being there. One can only hope your message gets across😉
@MusicMattersGB
2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for supporting the message.
@hahahadracula
2 жыл бұрын
"Unfortunately, all too many playing music fall short on this" this a 100%. that's why I'm here, as a humble guitar player knowing he sucks at these things. I hope that with a little more understanding I'll get better at this.
@MusicMattersGB
2 жыл бұрын
😀
@shipsahoy1793
2 жыл бұрын
@@hahahadracula 👍 well, you’ve got the right idea !we’re all in this together and learning is lifelong.. I didn’t mean to make it sound like I was on a high horse or anything for anybody that might be concerned about that, but I do feel where you coming from. I’m happy that I know a little bit more than the average ground pounder, but I’m always humble enough to be continually seeking betterment of self. Even when I know the content, I’ll check it out anyway, in case there’s some little tidbit that I could pick up that I may not have realized before.
@hahahadracula
2 жыл бұрын
@@shipsahoy1793 I have a background in Physics and chemistry. There is so much to know that no one can learn it all (unless you are gifted). I see music the same way. Just need to know what the basics are, and music has a lot of basics.
@MarkJKLawrence
2 жыл бұрын
Cut time is really useful when writing for funk too eg a high energy rhythm section with melodic horns. BTW I saw a recommendation for your channel on reddit, someone who is a (former?) Berklee tutor apparently, so here I am! I haven't watched that much yet, but from what I've seen so far it's very clear and well explained info 👍Great stuff, thanks.
@MusicMattersGB
2 жыл бұрын
Welcome. Great to have you with us.
@bubnjarskiforum9409
Жыл бұрын
Latin music is in cut time
@samratroy1234
2 жыл бұрын
I just want to say that your channel is a gold mine. All across the internet you see these newbs claiming to be Mozarts but hardly add any depth of knowledge in teaching the music theory.
@MusicMattersGB
2 жыл бұрын
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@vadlasletta
2 жыл бұрын
Claiming that a 4/4 has a heavy downbeat goes against what you would find in a rock song where the heavy beats typically are on two and four, also called the backbeat. In reggae you’ll even find examples that only has a heavy third beat in 4/4. But great video new sub here!
@MusicMattersGB
2 жыл бұрын
Sure. The back beats are key in certain styles.
@JGlassy
2 жыл бұрын
Very helpful! Nice attention on the ‘feel & intent’ nuances I hadn’t considered carefully enough.
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2 жыл бұрын
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@tackmack
2 жыл бұрын
Nice explanation! Would be VERY useful to hear you play the SAME piece in 2/2 V 4/4 - Perhaps that would emphasize the difference even more effectively? Thanks as always :D
@MusicMattersGB
2 жыл бұрын
😀
@tchapolin
2 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much!!! Even being Brazilian with a low level of English, he can understand the explanation well, and help me a lot. I'm a new subscribed
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2 жыл бұрын
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@sizenineelm
2 жыл бұрын
One of the biggest differences between 2/2 and 4/4 is when you add drums. In 2/2 it tends to be just bass on 1 and snare on 2, while 4/4 has bass on one and snare on 3, with hi-hat on 1,2,3,4 - totally different feel.
@MusicMattersGB
2 жыл бұрын
Sure
@jerryscholl9260
2 жыл бұрын
Though i can agree with part of this concept, one should note that there are plenty of compositions written in 4/4 but the 1/4 note is equal to 160 or more beats per second. Then you would not feel the the piece in 4 beats per measure but in 2 or even 1 beat per measure. On the opposite side - Mozart sym #39 is written in cut time (alle breve) but is conducted in 4 or even in 8 beats per measure.
@MusicMattersGB
2 жыл бұрын
It’s certainly true that composers don’t always choose the ideal time signature for the tempo or character of their piece.
@redsoil5821
10 ай бұрын
I love your theory's lessons. So well done. Thank you
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10 ай бұрын
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@BS-gj5ot
2 жыл бұрын
clear and concise explanation. Thanks
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2 жыл бұрын
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@vspatmx7458
2 жыл бұрын
Priceless. You Rock. I truly hope that u get a billion views.
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2 жыл бұрын
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@ohpotatoesandmolasses
2 жыл бұрын
3/4 and 6/8 is another one that trips a lot of folks up!
@MusicMattersGB
2 жыл бұрын
Absolutely. See our video on the subject
@UYIBASS
Жыл бұрын
THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR THIS lecture...
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Жыл бұрын
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@twinsong177
Жыл бұрын
Always hated cut time, thought it was stupid and just made things unnessecarily complicated. Finished this video liking it! Great explanation, I can see how cut time is so important
@MusicMattersGB
Жыл бұрын
Excellent
@vittoriosommatinoSounDesign
2 жыл бұрын
Great video! Thank you!
@MusicMattersGB
2 жыл бұрын
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@ana_moonlight333
5 ай бұрын
The most useful video on KZitem.
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5 ай бұрын
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@HarleyBob957
2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for clarity on the difference.
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2 жыл бұрын
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@johnvallelycomposer
Жыл бұрын
Very nicely explained 👌
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Жыл бұрын
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@superblondeDotOrg
2 жыл бұрын
tu tu → 💃 fur fur → 🐻 any questions, class? actually "c = common time" is a pet peeve incorrect fact because as you know historically the "c" is actually a half circle indicating a non-trinity time, it never was a "c" as an abbreviation of "common" 03:47 Great demo. More ear training examples needed on this difference.. and now I wonder if music notation software adapts the sheet music playback algorithm (MIDI velocity emphasis) between 2/2 and 4/4.
@superblondeDotOrg
2 жыл бұрын
wait did you play the outro music in 2/2 ? lol
@MusicMattersGB
2 жыл бұрын
I’m not claiming it to be historical fact but saying it’s the best way to remember it.
@marekgaazka7279
2 жыл бұрын
Great and simple lesson. Greatings from Poland.
@MusicMattersGB
2 жыл бұрын
Greetings to you too.
@jheaespares2981
2 жыл бұрын
super helpful, thank you!!!
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2 жыл бұрын
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@oldensad5541
12 күн бұрын
Thank you i finally get it! Now the important part - understand how to implement it in DAW, coz I'm not playing music, i program ot in midi
@MusicMattersGB
12 күн бұрын
A pleasure
@killiantouboul8462
Жыл бұрын
Thanks for this video ! But I got one question : what about 2/4 ? Is it the same as 2/2 ? :)
@MusicMattersGB
Жыл бұрын
It is the same but notated according to the time signature
@tidalwave71
2 жыл бұрын
Such good explanation!! Thank you.
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2 жыл бұрын
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@TheStobb50
2 жыл бұрын
As a drummer who often plays Scottish traditional music I found i treat 22 Quick step as 44 when counting in my head it’s much easier to keep time and keep a smooth flow
@MusicMattersGB
2 жыл бұрын
😀
@jeffreybritton3338
2 жыл бұрын
Is the difference just down to emphasis? B b b b B b b b vs B b B b Because the duration of 1/2 notes and 1/4 notes are a function of beats per minute, so without emphasis I think the two signatures would sound identical.
@MusicMattersGB
2 жыл бұрын
The emphasis is different in relation to the notated rhythms
@kazhilly
2 жыл бұрын
The easiest way to feel the difference is by counting the beats: 4/4 is “One Two Three Four”, and 2/2: One and Two and. Good video, well explained.
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2 жыл бұрын
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@janubbelohdehenningsen4190
2 жыл бұрын
Fantastic explanation... got a new subscriber now!
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2 жыл бұрын
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@mahallati
7 ай бұрын
Thank you for your explanation! If 2 beats per measure is what we want, then why not choose 2/4 rather than 2/2? Does the decision, also, depend on the real estate or the readability of the score? For example, in 2/2 one can use quarter notes, where in 2/4 one would use eighth notes. But, it also depends on the tempo.
@MusicMattersGB
7 ай бұрын
Absolutely. It will sound the same either way but it’s up to the composer to decide which is easier to read.
@joeldheath
2 жыл бұрын
Apparently there's something different about the way I hear music because I have watched this a dozen times and don't "feel" anything about either time signature and they don't seem any different to me other than what notes are played. The way this is described makes it seem like there's something screamingly obvious about where a bar ends and I just don't hear or feel anything.
@MusicMattersGB
2 жыл бұрын
The difference is subtle but significant
@marielaclericorhodes3030
2 жыл бұрын
excellent explanation Maestro!
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2 жыл бұрын
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@magnificentchorale300
2 жыл бұрын
That was just amazing, thank you prof
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2 жыл бұрын
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@embodiedconducting
2 жыл бұрын
Many marches are written in 2/4 or Cut Time rather than 4/4. This makes sense because we have 2 feet, not 4. it is also often a challenge to discern whether a piece is in 2 or 4 by listening to it without the benefit of having the score in front of you.
@MusicMattersGB
2 жыл бұрын
Absolutely
@mikehopkins4040
2 жыл бұрын
So much easier to understand the half note and the quarter note than minims and such things.
@MusicMattersGB
2 жыл бұрын
It depends on one’s musical upbringing
@dhpbear2
2 жыл бұрын
I may have missed something here, but I thought the basic difference is that in 4/4, every *fourth* beat is accented; in 2/2, every *other* beat is accented. In addition, I thought that 'march time' would be 2/2; you indicate that it's 4/4. Cheers.
@MusicMattersGB
2 жыл бұрын
In certain musical styles one emphasises the back beats and that’s probably where you’re coming from. For the vast majority of the tradition the strong beats lie elsewhere. Many marches are written in 4/4 but some faster marches present in 2/2.
@EddieRay724
2 жыл бұрын
I always thought cut time was used in marches where the two beats corresponded to left foot/right foot. No?
@MusicMattersGB
2 жыл бұрын
Possibly
@petertyrrell3391
2 жыл бұрын
Very broadly what you say is right. However, in the 18th C and early 19th C barred C could be used to increase the tempo of a 4/4 piece, and if there are are lot of semiquavers or if the rhythm shows 4 beats this is likely to be the case. Czerny and Hummel quote pieces written in barred C as being in 4/4 too often for it to be a mistake. The same applies to pieces in 2/4 - with lots of demisemiquavers they are effectively in 4/8. Also in 4/4 slow movements, the beat is very often a quaver beat, and to count it in 4/4 will increase the speed of an adagio to an andante or moderato. I haven't read every word of every old treatise, but so far I have found no evidence that a 4/4 would be counted in 2/2 in olden times. Avoiding heaviness can be done by articulation rather than increasing the speed.
@MusicMattersGB
2 жыл бұрын
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@tcng9808
Жыл бұрын
Very well said its musical difference, now I understand thank you.
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Жыл бұрын
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@BillMcGirr
2 жыл бұрын
Very enjoyable video. Interesting and informative. Good stuff.🎸👍
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2 жыл бұрын
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@chicojcf
2 жыл бұрын
Wonderful explanations!
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2 жыл бұрын
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@MyRackley
Жыл бұрын
Bossa Nova music has a 2/2 time feel, but so often it's notated wrongly as 4/4. Thanks for the explanation.
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Жыл бұрын
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@Hexspa
2 жыл бұрын
Very nice. I'm much clearer on this now. Prior, I semi-consciously assumed that 2/2 would feel heavier. This is likely due to half notes (minims) being strong in 4/4. Turns out the contrary is true. 4/4 has two strong beats and 2/2 just has one. So, in a sense, 2/2 has just one beat per measure and 4/4 has two. Maybe Bluegrass is the strongest example I'm somewhat familiar with with a 2/2 feel.
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2 жыл бұрын
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@stevewilson9790
2 жыл бұрын
Great video as always. Like how you use measure and bar. Two points of interest. Point 1, it appears that Early church music was in triple time and used a circle time signature. Anything else used a half circle or common time ? Point 2, in Glenn Miller's Chatanooga Choo Choo, Tex Beneke sings "the whistle blowing 8 to the bar (I guess measure didn't rhyme with far?)
@MusicMattersGB
2 жыл бұрын
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@howiesmith1504
2 жыл бұрын
We usually call measures "bars" in North America. Also, boogie woogie was a craze in the late '30s and 40s, and the lyric was an obvious reference to the hit tune "Beat Me Daddy, 8 to the Bar," which every pop music fan knew.
@MusicMattersGB
2 жыл бұрын
Fair enough.
@1080kk
2 жыл бұрын
Great video! Helps so much!
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2 жыл бұрын
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@craigbrowning9448
2 жыл бұрын
Someone to lean going back in history of European music notation, 3/4 Time was represented by a circle (°) which represented perfection is in the Holy Trinity. The "C" of Common Time, or "C" with line through it (¢) for "Cut" time 2/2 represented a broken circle.
@MusicMattersGB
2 жыл бұрын
Absolutely
@johnkilpatrick2343
5 ай бұрын
Okay, I get the explanation, thanks... but, what happens if the nots I want to emphasise are different, e.g. 2 or 4 but not 1 & 3? How then would I know if it was 2/4 or 4/4 time?
@MusicMattersGB
5 ай бұрын
Some styles certainly involve emphasising the back beats but if you’re stressing beats 2&4 you know you’re in 4 time.
@AleScati
Жыл бұрын
Spiegazione perfetta, grazie!
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Жыл бұрын
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@jimgolab536
2 жыл бұрын
I have also seen cut time used to simplify the writing of 16th and 32nd notes, by allowing them to be written as 8th and 16th notes, respectively. Saves having to write that extra line.
@MusicMattersGB
2 жыл бұрын
Absolutely
@DaveyL1954
2 жыл бұрын
Just a small point of reference.....the 'C' in common time is not a "C". It is in fact a broken circle. It goes back to the days when the church demanded that composers wrote religious music in 3 time, which was referenced with the time sig of a full circle. (This represented God the father etc) When musicians wanted to write for themselves in 4 then a broken circle was employed. It looked like a C but isn't. It is also confusing to say that it "stands" for 'c'ommon time. It doesn't because it's a broken circle. Reference: Oxford Dictionary of Music. (See under time sigs.)
@MusicMattersGB
2 жыл бұрын
All true. I’m not claiming that C stands for common time merely that it’s an easy way to remember what it indicates.
@raymond4u100
2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for this
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2 жыл бұрын
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@Xpertcard
8 күн бұрын
A great example of 2/2 time is the song Africa by Toto. If you listen to it carefully you can hear a clear emphasis after every 2 beats.
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8 күн бұрын
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@spark300c
Жыл бұрын
I think now I wonder what different between 2/2 and 2/4 on base only what we hear. Both have two beats in the measure. how one center around the half note and the other the quarter note.
@MusicMattersGB
Жыл бұрын
Absolutely. It’s just a matter of notation. They sound the same.
@pravashchatterjee7374
10 ай бұрын
With due respect, on the same tempo, explaining musical defference among 2/2, 2/4, 4/4 is easy, if it's explained in a more subtle way. Because a Minim note takes 2 beats, a crotchet note takes 1 beat, so crotchet note on 4/4 time signature is counted as 1234, but with the same tempo, in 2/2 time signature Minim note is counted like 1 hold 2 hold, therefore in 2/2 the notes playing frequency becomes half of 4/4, but in 2/4 notes playing frequency is as same as 4/4, hence it sounds as fast as 4/4 in relation to the same tempo.
@MusicMattersGB
10 ай бұрын
It doesn’t really work like that because 2 as the lower number tells us to count minims as single beats ie not to count 2 on each minim.
@NomeDeArte
2 жыл бұрын
Great video, thank you Gareth!
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2 жыл бұрын
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@Sciaining
2 жыл бұрын
Thanks, but now I'm wondering what's the difference between 2/4 and 2/2... is it just the tempo in this case or is there a difference on how the music feels here too?
@MusicMattersGB
2 жыл бұрын
2/2 often features a faster tempo. The rest is about notation.
@jstevenson7121
2 жыл бұрын
@@MusicMattersGB can you clarify? I too don't get 2/4 vs 4/4
@jstevenson7121
2 жыл бұрын
Sorry 2/4 vs 2/2
@chipsnegativeharmonyrips7187
2 жыл бұрын
@@MusicMattersGB So there's no difference. You could write the exact same piece in the same tempo in 2/4 and in 2/2 and they would be performed in the same way.
@MusicMattersGB
2 жыл бұрын
True
@projectjabootskie
Жыл бұрын
Good golly Moses you helped so much just now
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Жыл бұрын
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@timothymimeslayer
3 ай бұрын
I was always confused on why two measures of 2/2 time wasn't the same as one measure of 4/4 time, but I guess it has to do with the Emphasis on which beat.
@MusicMattersGB
3 ай бұрын
Absolutely
@mckernan603
2 жыл бұрын
Good lesson. I could have used 3-4 more examples, e.g. you playing a 2/4 song in 4/4
@jonjeffries3265
2 жыл бұрын
Could one compare the three four and six eight to this lesson also..?
@MusicMattersGB
2 жыл бұрын
More examples. Fair point. 3/4 and 6/8 are fundamentally different. We have a video on that topic.
@pulykamell
2 жыл бұрын
I was wondering about 2/2 vs 2/4. Both have two beats in a bar, just a different foundational note value. Is the difference only in terms of how you write them out? That is, in some cases, it's clearer to write it out as 2/2 instead of 2/4 with the appropriate tempo marking, or is there some other difference? 3/4 vs 6/8 I understand -- big difference in terms of duple vs triple feel. But 2/2 vs 2/4 I'm unclear on whether there's anything more going on than the note values written out.
@MusicMattersGB
2 жыл бұрын
Yes. That’s essentially the issue. The difficulty comes when people play 2/2 pieces as if they are in 4/4.
@carlpeterson8182
2 жыл бұрын
Great video. I think this all works if one is more conventional and is composing or playing in a conventional style. But some progressive musicians could take a piece in 2/2 and play it in a way which is sounds like 4/4 with the accents on beats that would make it sound like 4/4 instead of 2/2 or vice versa or even other odder time signatures.
@MusicMattersGB
2 жыл бұрын
Absolutely
@caleb7327
Жыл бұрын
Great video thank you so much.
@caleb7327
Жыл бұрын
This fixed my confusion.
@MusicMattersGB
Жыл бұрын
Excellent
@loganrehn3916
Жыл бұрын
Your are brilliant sir thank you
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Жыл бұрын
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@torbjrngrnas9535
2 жыл бұрын
Very informative. Thank you🙂
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2 жыл бұрын
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@stevethordarson5198
2 жыл бұрын
Great video. Thank you very much.
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2 жыл бұрын
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@DrGalazkiewicz
2 жыл бұрын
Never heard the terms “crotchet” and “minim” before. Is this a UK thing?
@MusicMattersGB
2 жыл бұрын
There are two international systems. Whole note - Semibreve Half note - Minim Quarter note - Crotchet Eighth note - Quaver Sixteenth note - Semiquaver
@omwilsonow
2 жыл бұрын
This is great, thank you very much 😊
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2 жыл бұрын
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@sameash3153
2 жыл бұрын
At a certain point all tempos and meters eventually become the same. 2/2 with the half note at 80 is the same as 4/4 with the quarter at 160 which is the same as 8/8 with the eighth at 320 (not that anybody would ever use that). At a certain point once you keep adding or subtracting BPM you end up back where you started just with a different subdivision of the whole note, but the divisions below and higher than the one you count with convert back to each other. So if there's a 2/2 piece in 70 bpm, the subdivisions are really in 140 bpm, but these are actually equivalent, you could count both tempos on both feet if you really wanted (and generally, you don't count just the ictus, you also count the subdivisions). There's actually only a limited number of tempi that the whole note can have if you look at it this way, because the higher or lower you go you always end up circling back to a tempo you had previously. There's also nothing actually stopping you from counting 4/4 in two or 2/2 in four. Usually you do count faster 4/4 tempos in two, beats 2 and 4 are the same as the "and" of 1 and 2 in 2/2, the stresses fall in the same places too.
@MusicMattersGB
2 жыл бұрын
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@violinstar5948
2 жыл бұрын
What about 2/2 compared to 2/4?
@MusicMattersGB
2 жыл бұрын
2/2 means two minim beats per bar. 2/4 means two crotchet beats per bar. They sound much the same but are notated according to the time signature chosen.
@harrieth7003
20 күн бұрын
In 2/2, could you do crotchet-minim-crotchet, or would you have to do 4 crotchets with the middle 2 tied? Thanks.
@MusicMattersGB
19 күн бұрын
You can write crotchet minim crotchet. Yes.
@nothingbutsoundofficial
2 жыл бұрын
Good stuff! Thank you!
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2 жыл бұрын
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@TechPithan
Жыл бұрын
Just a question. If we want to feel 2 beats in a bar. Wouldn’t 2 4 time do the same. Just wanted to understand if the minim measure does anything in terms of tempo of the song or count. Apologies if I am getting this completely wrong. Thanks
@MusicMattersGB
Жыл бұрын
2/4 and 2/2 sound the same as each other. They simply look different.
@TechPithan
Жыл бұрын
@@MusicMattersGB Thanks a lot
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Жыл бұрын
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@SalAvenueNJ
2 жыл бұрын
American music can show some great examples of the difference between 2/2 and 4/2. Bluegrass music is in 2/2 that ultra fast stuff with Earl Scruggs shredding on the banjo is in 2/2. You're just counting "One, Two, One, Two, One Two" . And there's a modern genre of American music called Alt Country that uses a very slow 2/2 pattern. Then for your blues and rock music you have 4/4. And with that signature you have the eighth notes on the 3rd beat, "One, Two, Three And, Four". I think not having the "And" in one time signature is a significant difference.
@MusicMattersGB
2 жыл бұрын
Good points
@ajsiemers
2 жыл бұрын
That was really helpful!
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2 жыл бұрын
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@BazColne
Жыл бұрын
Many thanks.
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Жыл бұрын
A pleasure
@monotectic
2 жыл бұрын
I'm afraid this has just increased my confusion. If one makes a half-note in 2/2 (one beat) equivalent in duration to a quarter note in 4/4 (again, one beat), then a given piece of music written in 4/4 could be rewritten in 2/4 simply by doubling the note value (i.e., quarter in 4/4 goes to half note in 2/2, etc.) and by splitting each of the 4/4 measures into 2 equivalent halves for the 2/2 measures (now twice as many in number as the original 4/4 piece). Now the timing of these two pieces would be identical and beats would fall at identical places in the played music. The only difference might be in accents on the notes, with the major accent coming at the first beat of each measure in both time signatures resulting in twice as many and twice as frequent major accents in the 2/2 piece. If that's the only difference, we're simply back to the difference between 4/4 and 2/4. If that's the case, is there any difference in the sound/feel of the music written in 2/2 vs 2/4. That is, are these two identical if we simply adjust the tempo so that beats occur at the same frequency? It seems the only difference is in the appearance on paper, but nothing real in sound. What am I missing?
@MusicMattersGB
2 жыл бұрын
2/2 and 4/4 might well sound the same but in 2/2 you need to count half notes as beats and in 4/4 you need to count quarter notes as beats. It’s when you count quarter note beats in 2/2 or half note beats in 4/4 that the music doesn’t feel right.
@alcraig1
2 жыл бұрын
Wow, I studied music theory at a highly respected university and have been involved with music for over 40 years. I have never heard of (or seen) 2/2. 2/4 yes. 4/4 yes. What is the point of 2/2 and can you share an example of a work that uses it?
@MusicMattersGB
2 жыл бұрын
Have a look at Baroque dances such as Bouree settings.
@FritzSolms
2 жыл бұрын
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2 жыл бұрын
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@DameBeagle
2 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
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2 жыл бұрын
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@squaresunmusic
2 жыл бұрын
Tonic chords in cadences are always placed on the strongest metric positions in the meter, i.e. beat one. The cadential dominant will often fall at the halfway point (or slightly later) metrically in the previous measure. Obviously, if the harmonic rhythm is solidly one chord per measure, the entire penultimate measure will hold the cadential dominant. The examples here appear to circumvent that.
@MusicMattersGB
2 жыл бұрын
Because there are vast numbers of examples that don’t follow your premise.
@KeenBulldozer
7 ай бұрын
I get this now, thank you. But what is the difference between 2 2 and 2 4 time?
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