Some history you missed on the Scrambler style - the reason for the nobby tires and high pipes was because these were basically the original motocross bike. A "scramble" was an off-road race, similar to a rally stage, held over varying terrain. Bikes would cross streams, climb rocks, weave through woods etc, often on narrow footpaths. You needed a rugged bike for that, but it was also a race - hence the light, faster design cues.
@submoto
8 жыл бұрын
Oh cool. Thanks. If you can find some links that go in depth on the history, traditions, etc... I would love to make a specific video on the subject :-)
@TheGriphon
8 жыл бұрын
Thanks Tyler for these Informations. If I look at all these World War II Bikes, these are all Scramblers, aren't they? Specialy the BMW R75
@tylerstone1727
8 жыл бұрын
Hey Submoto - here's some good coverage of how "scrambles" fit into early motocross: www.motorcyclemuseum.org/asp/museum/exhibits/mx/history.asp And Griphonne - I'm not an expert, but I guess you could say that in a way, the wartime bikes have always been a sort of scrambler. Not because they were modified with the aim of winning races, but more because they had to overcome the same operational parameters, like fording streams and climbing over rocky ground.
@eddiehawkins7049
Жыл бұрын
Scrambling was the original name of the sport. It developed as race based on trials riding. My understanding is that it spread to the rest of the world and became known as Motocross in countries outside of the UK, and then the name eventually replaced scrambling as the name of the sport here too. When I used to go to scrambling meets as a youngster, I had never heard of motocross. Not having been around bikes for some time, I've been really confused about what I would regard as trail bikes, being described as scramblers.
@Drunken_Hamster
8 жыл бұрын
Okay, so the way I see it is that Cafe Racers, Scramblers, and Trackers all start with a 'normal' bike. A Scrambler gets lifted/bigger/upgraded/offroad suspension and dirt or mostly dirt tires along with high pipes. A Tracker gets either street or mostly street tires and slightly lower, stiffer, etc. suspension. All in comparison/progression from a Scrambler. Cafe Racers get upgraded street suspension, clip-ons, better tires, more power, etc. Choppers are raked out cruisers. Usually full custom and made for looks rather than performance. At the very least, this is true in the sense of handling due to having raked out front ends. A Bobber is basically a cruiser that's lightened up, powered as much as reasonable, and in some cases made to handle okay. Built for dragging. A Rat bike is usually a Bobber that looks like shit. Or it's a 'rat rod' but in motorcycle form instead of car form. A Brat bike is someone who's taken their cruiser to the halfway point between stock and bobber form, and may or may not give a shit as to how bad it looks and may or may not have cobbled it together like a 'rat rod' bike. And finally, a Roadster is like Harley Davidson's new "Roadster". It's my favorite cruiser/bobber/chopper design. Also, just a note on what would end up happening in my case.... If I ever went for 'clip-ons' or a type of build that focused on clip-ons, it would most likely turn into a Roadster. I feel that if you're going for something like a Cafe Racer, then you might as well either change to a Tracker/Scrambler for practicality, usability, and fun, or just go straight up with a modern supersport. Or, like what would happen to me, make a 'Roadster' since clip-ons [at least high ones] make sense and look good on that. But aside from that, I think I'd go with a Tracker build that has high pipes for safety and looks. Good street performance, high ground clearance for curb hopping, stairs, urban jumps, good speed and power [better than supermoto/dual sport] and a higher agility than a sport, supersport, cafe racer, etc. All this while maintaining comfort with the seating position and just better overall practicality than the other designs. Second choice would be a Scrambler, though that might become the first choice if I lived rural or small town. Third choice just for comfort, style, and relative mellow attitude comparatively would be a Roadster.
@memesmojo5622
5 жыл бұрын
Thank you, ive come to find my favorite is roadster too
@CZ350tuner
8 жыл бұрын
Rat Bikes originally came about because of the illegal street racing scene and had two purposes: (1) To hustle some loudmouth into racing against it (sometimes for money) and (2) to add humiliation to whoever was beaten. The original rat bikes always had the negelected, unwashed and bodged appearance but all the money would be spent on the highly tuned motor, making the rat bike a true wolf in sheep's clothing. Let's just say that nothing beats seeing the look on a challenger's face when a rat bike's motor is fired up and they know they're already beaten on hearing the sound of an expensive race tuned (sometimes shop tuned) motor. (Yes I used to street race rat bikes back in the 1980's). Rat bikes can also be mongrels with non-standard or maker engines such as a Yamaha SR / XT 500 / 550 / 600 motor in a CZ 250 roadster frame, TZ 250 / 350 motor in an old Yamaha RD 250, etc. etc. as the concept is to hide the fact that a rat bike goes a heck of a lot faster than it looks..... and to win money in street races. rat bikes are all about spending the money on the essentials like engine, brakes and suspension and not wasting money on fancy paint jobs, fancy parts, etc.
@VencedorGamer
5 жыл бұрын
The OG Sleeper bikes. 😉
@57WillysCJ
8 жыл бұрын
The funny thing about the bobber is it was originally just removing all non essential parts, shortening or eliminating fenders for racing in the 1920s to 1930s. Basically a tracker.
@submoto
8 жыл бұрын
57WillysCJ yeah, that is interesting
@rafaeldenboogert6853
6 жыл бұрын
Currently building a 50cc Yamaha dt from 1985 into a scrambler/brat style which is super exiting. Your videos are also very clear and I learn a lot from them, you have got yourself a new subscriber!
@submoto
6 жыл бұрын
sounds like an interesting project :-) thanks for the sub
@rafaeldenboogert6853
6 жыл бұрын
@@submoto yeah I'm really exited. It is a moped so it's very easy to learn from seeing as it's my first real project. And the finishing product is hopefully gonna be amazing, taking my time so it will look good
@rjmaksym7692
8 жыл бұрын
8:20 optical illusion on cop car wheels
@submoto
8 жыл бұрын
I noticed :-p looks pretty cool
@guiltygearcore
7 жыл бұрын
I saw it too at first i thought the car was applying break.
@jazzysaravana
7 жыл бұрын
RJ Maksym That's what happens when the shooting video camera's frame rate and rpm of the car tyres are almost similar in range. If this is a 25-30 fps video, the car should've been in 1500 rpm-1800 rpm, which when converted to rps is 25-30 fps. Cheers!
@submoto
7 жыл бұрын
Oh cool, I never knew that actually! makes perfect sense :-D
@destianpatrianagara1119
5 жыл бұрын
@@jazzysaravana strange, pretty sure I've seen that with my eyes/without camera. How would you explain that?
@Athrun000
8 жыл бұрын
To me the biggest difference between them is the handlebar. I know there are other subtle differences, but personally I feel that the handlebar is what set them apart from one another. And also the wheels :)
@submoto
8 жыл бұрын
A biggie :-) absolutely!
@bobbynate4271
3 жыл бұрын
Man this was bold thanks for doing this video. The one thing about all these styles I enjoy is form fallows fiction. Example Cafe racer/BRAT=road racing Tracker= flat track/board racing Scrambler= dualsport/Enduro All can be rat or plush. All pay homage to particular movements that have earned a place, in history. So I personally prefer to categorize them by their use, in respect to each discipline. But hey when you build it you're entitled to call it what you want. Please keep building these things and share. 👍
@v8trauma
7 жыл бұрын
Cafe racer - bike used to race from one transport cafe to the next. Like the old Ace cafe, hence the name. They did what they could to go fast, the sports bikes of their time.
@haydneasy9736
6 жыл бұрын
and its pronounced CAF! They were called transport Cafs back in 1950s Britain not Café. unfortunately modern parlance has added the E on the end
@cht5086
3 жыл бұрын
Sweeeeeden 🇸🇪, Hi from Canada🇨🇦, My sister is Swedish; I am Canadian, and today we talked about the differences between a Cafe racer, a brat and a tracker. Hahaha
@submoto
3 жыл бұрын
Awesome. Well I have gotten some heat for this vid, but I get that times change and that there are many different opinions out there. Hope you have good riding weather in Canada :-)
@cht5086
3 жыл бұрын
@@submoto 🇨🇦🇸🇪🇩🇰❤️ It is the same as in Europe this year the weather actually, sometimes hot and sunny, sometimes showers. When I talk with my father and when he says there is rain, I know here would be rain soon, or sometimes it is in reverse.
@cht5086
3 жыл бұрын
@@submoto My parents and my brother and other families live in Kopenhagen. Lol Your videos are fantastic, buddy. Thanks.
@SoyBoySigh
6 жыл бұрын
I think we need to discuss what I've dubbed the "STARBUCKS RACER"! As distinct from the Vintage Cafe Racers & Classic Superbikes as you can get, despite sharing an engine & gas-tank & center-most regions of the frame thereof......
@yaghos8434
6 жыл бұрын
You mean every bike is having just a little difference ....and i just subscribed now from pakistan
@davidraiguitarman6970
5 жыл бұрын
I didn't feel bore at all you've explained very well.. thank you
@submoto
5 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@pasha_houston
8 жыл бұрын
i know you said at the beginning of the video where you are ( you named the beach at least) but what country is it in ? just curious. streets look awesome.. and thanks for the video. i found it because i bought a second bike for a project 1980 cb750k, just doing my research now to figure what i wanna do with it .. interesting part is gonna be when i am done with it and choice will stand in front of me (as i will have to sell one) between my 1993 Suzuki bandit gsf400 (pretty clean and mostly stock) and the cb. What would you personally choose ? thanks.
@submoto
8 жыл бұрын
It's in the city of Copenhagen in Denmark :-) Well, it really depends on the condition of the cb. bith biles are pretty solid. the bandit is a pretty badass bike too (although the v-frame makes it difficult to retro-customize). it's a newer bike too, which might make it more reliable than the cb. That said, if the cb is in good condition (not burning oil etc.), those things are rock-solid. the cool thing about the cb is that it's the perfect canvas for a REALLY awesome build, and if you do it right, you may just end up with a masterpiece :-) but if the cb has mechanical problems, you may end up in a world of hurt. as smooth as those old inline 4 engines are, just as much of a headache it could be if it doesn't run right. If you chose pods instead of the original air filter, you might be in for a world of 'fun' too, depending on the carbs it has :-p
@pasha_houston
8 жыл бұрын
Ha cool, i thought that might be Denmark, by the amount of the cyclists on the streets )) Thank you for the in depth answer to my question, really helpful information/ advise . i will keep both get cb running ride and compare and i guess then do the work to whichever i keep. But yeah it looks like CB is certainly has more options as for a build.. Thanks for the video again. I have subscribed!
@prof.eduardobaracchini8792
7 жыл бұрын
Very nice information for the classic motorcycles styles, thanks!
@submoto
7 жыл бұрын
Eduardo Falcon thanks for watching :-)
@Lightemup2005
9 жыл бұрын
Informative, thanks. Lot's of stuff I didn't know.
@distortiontildeafness
4 жыл бұрын
$4000 budget. Had a cafe racer want something more upright.. Leanings towards an enduro/scrambler /tracker style.. Dont want a project bike again , anyone have suggestions? I like a stripped down old school look.. Nothing chunky.. Also like carrying a passenger every now and then 400cc or bigger any ideas? Nothing too high on seat heights
@submoto
4 жыл бұрын
check out my sr500 bike on this channel, that bike is pure gold. For that budget, you could get the newer fuel injection sr400, and customize it in the same way. Kedo.de has som pretty neat conversion kits
@amgill1
8 жыл бұрын
hilarious intro, thats exactly what i was saying going through pictures of modded bikes on google. Very helpful video!
@submoto
8 жыл бұрын
thanks :-p I'm glad it could help :-)
@Freespiritphil
9 жыл бұрын
I've been recently looking at converting a bike to either a cafe racer or a scrambler. I like the scrambler look a little more, so I will probably end up doing that but they are both awesome. Subbed!!!
@submoto
9 жыл бұрын
Awesome! Make sure to let me know how it turned out when you're done :-) a tracker is also a good in-between solution. In many cases, the only thing that separates a tracker from a scrambler is the high pipe on a scrambler. I love both looks, but it really depends a lot on the donor-bike and what it lends itself to best :-)
@Freespiritphil
9 жыл бұрын
Yeah, I like the look of the high pipe a little better. It's still a few years away before I get there, but I will definitely let you know once I do.
@Roadghost88
9 жыл бұрын
Just finished building a rat tracker out of a Honda. Thing attracts a lot of attention, and it's only a 250 I use for commuting.
@submoto
9 жыл бұрын
Thats the beauty of these machines :-) I would love to see how it turned out :-)
@thevelointhevale1132
4 жыл бұрын
There is a LOT of missing information (misinformation) here about Trackers ... Tracking largely started in Australia "The early history of speedway race meetings is a subject of much debate and controversy. There is evidence to show that meetings were held on small dirt tracks in Australia and the United States before World War I. On 13 November 1905 motorcycle racing was held at the (Australia) Newcastle, NSW Rugby Ground, a distance of approximately 440 yards. ... see more info here ---> en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Motorcycle_speedway
@submoto
4 жыл бұрын
Wow! Cool! Yeah, I haven't made videos in a while, but maybe I should make a new one soon, and update some of the info. That might be cool. I'll dig into the references from the link you sent :-) thanks!
@thevelointhevale1132
4 жыл бұрын
@@submoto Great idea ... we'd love to see it told properly with the History correct!
@reverberateddreams7958
6 жыл бұрын
Hvilken type ville du forslå til en der aldrig har haft en motorcykel før?
@submoto
6 жыл бұрын
Malik Krog en street tracker :-) SR250 måske :-)
@aaronperkerson6298
6 жыл бұрын
Thanks this was very helpful
@submoto
6 жыл бұрын
Aaron Perkerson glad to help :-)
@imunclefilthy
8 жыл бұрын
In the USA, "Hooligan" which is basically a stripped down version of the street legal Road-Racing "Super-bike" of the late 70's through the 80's. To the best of my knowledge Buell with their 1996 S1 was the fist "Bad-Boy" "Hooligan".
@submoto
8 жыл бұрын
interesting! thanks :-)
@jekyllandride8878
8 жыл бұрын
Enjoy the video! Thanks for producing good content.
@submoto
8 жыл бұрын
always a pleasure :-)
@LIV3backwards
9 жыл бұрын
Good info, thanks, mate.
@juhl-racing1466
8 жыл бұрын
Denmark FTW! Greetings the Yamaha RD rider from Aalborg!
@submoto
8 жыл бұрын
oh cool :-D
@juhl-racing1466
8 жыл бұрын
It's so rare you find danish Vloggers!, great channel mate! :)
@submoto
8 жыл бұрын
thanks :-)
@nietzsche688
9 жыл бұрын
Great vid man! I can finally see the differences between these bikes. Hey, I kind off realized now that a like Trackers and Brats the most but I can't find a bike that I can relate to the images in your vid so... What would be a nice cheap option to start? BTW It would be great if you'd make a tutorial to start your own bike project.
@submoto
9 жыл бұрын
Te contesto en nuestra lengua mejor, no? :-) ¿Así que, si te entiendo bien, quieres construir una moto tracker pero con asiento en estilo brat, pero no has encontrado la moto perfecta para el proyecto? Pues te recomiendo una moto sencilla y preferiblemente japonesa (porque las partes son mas baratas). Una moto perfecta sería la Yamaha XS650 o la Yamaha SR500 (ó mejor si te alcanza la SR400). Son motos super simples, y te costaría un esfuerzo mínimo adaptar el asiento etc.. Las hondas CB, las kawasakis y suzuki GS, las recomiendo más para café racers. Lo importante es que el cuadro (chasiss) tenga la forma correcta, ósea plana. Si no lo has visto, te recomiendo ver mi otro video "how to build/design a cafe racer", que aunque explica el diseño de los café racers, hay mucho que también se aplica los trackers. Se me hace buenísima idea hacer un video tutorial en donde lo explico :-) gracias por la sugestión!
@jomainasdf1433
7 жыл бұрын
thank you very much for this video. i been trying to understand the differences between all those and you explain it so well. thank you very much ;'D but i wonder why some people call the scramblers hipster bikes. and does anyone know the purpose of scramblers when they were first made? like i understand about giving it capabilities of on and off road, but then why not dual sport instead?
@literaryartist1
8 жыл бұрын
dude awesome channel
@submoto
8 жыл бұрын
thanks :-)
@coyote102076
7 жыл бұрын
Cool vid. After full dressers/baggers the Tracker and the Scrambler's are my next favorites for street bikes. Never been a bobber, rat, or brat bike fan myself. But unto each their own! If someone else has a love affair for a rat bike, more power to them! :-D It is what makes us riders so diverse and unique! Yet, we all face the SAME dangers, no matter is you are on a 250cc scooter or a 1700cc bagger! We are all as one in the end. :-)
@submoto
7 жыл бұрын
Exactly, which is why it's important to respect all bikers. There's no 'us and them' in motorcycles. We are all in this together :-)
@FNygaard21
6 жыл бұрын
Riding right past Wrenchmonkees at approx 3:00 ;)
@RockabillyRambler
7 жыл бұрын
Cold open=halarious. Intro=void of cliche shitty dubstep Subbed.
@MidwestMotoRider
9 жыл бұрын
Awesome, someone clearly did their homework. Perfect man! Thumbs up for the police not arresting you.. :)
@submoto
9 жыл бұрын
Haha, I guess I'm just a lucky bastard :-p
@MidwestMotoRider
9 жыл бұрын
You forgot "Awesome Lucky Bastard" :)
@tskwared667
8 жыл бұрын
When you mention clip ons, is that clip on handlebars?
@submoto
8 жыл бұрын
yes, exactly :-)
@tskwared667
8 жыл бұрын
awesome, thank you
@Tom-jc2fq
7 жыл бұрын
Hi, I really like the look of the new Honda Rebel 500. what would that be categorized as?? Bobber?
@submoto
7 жыл бұрын
Gregory Peck it's a cruiser. but it could be customized into a number of categories
@Tom-jc2fq
7 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@BuffMyRadius
8 жыл бұрын
One name I hear down here in the southwest US is "doll trap" for bikes that have been stripped down and the frame powder coated or painted a ridiculous neon color before reassembly. I think they look really cool but no one seems to know the origin of the name. Anyone with insight on this?
@submoto
8 жыл бұрын
it's a first for me :-) I'm just as curious!
@drdrew3
2 жыл бұрын
There is now so much overlap in the designs of these bikes that narrowly categorizing them is pointless… Build what you like. Ride what you like. Call it whatever you like. Just don’t call it a “brat-tracker”
@submoto
2 жыл бұрын
True. Times have changed since I made this video
@SC8terRiderMotoVlogger
4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing, I like to have or to custom street tracker type 😉 Ride safe KaMotoFriends.
@exia00z57
8 жыл бұрын
Hey Would you say a 1979 xs750 is okay for a beginner ?
@submoto
8 жыл бұрын
For a beginner rider or a beginner mechanic/builder?
@exia00z57
8 жыл бұрын
+SUBMOTO lets say both since i have to do some wiring on it. Its my 1st bike and all ive read about it is that the xs750 is too big to start on.
@submoto
8 жыл бұрын
+Uriel Elguera well there's a huge difference between a modern 750cc and an older 750cc. An xs will be much mor forgiving than a sportsbike for example, and only has 65...ish hp. But it is still quite powerful. It's also quite a heavy bike, so that is also a big factor. It's not impossible to start on it, but it might be a challenge at times, especially if you lose your balance. A lighter bike will be easier to 'save' in such a situation. But t won't flip like a sport bike would if you start up wrong. So not impossible, but I would recommend a lighter bike :-) On the mechanical side of things, you will learn the hard way, whether you like it or not. And when something goes wrong, it will most likely be something that you won't be able to pay a mechanic for. There is ALWAYS something wrong with these older bikes, but that is also what we love about them. For that reason it might be better to get something a bit newer, otherwise you risk not riding very much because of mechanical crap
@guiltygearcore
7 жыл бұрын
I like the banana kind of seats. I'll subscribe and ride!!! XD
@Hansen3111
4 жыл бұрын
What are you doing in Copenhagen
@submoto
4 жыл бұрын
This video is a bit old. I am currently in Berlin, but I will be back in Scandinavia for a while in the near future :-)
@DronePatrolCB
7 жыл бұрын
bobbers are stock bikes for racing stripped down to nothing but the essentials because of the small cc size for speed. Choppers are bikes that the frame was actually cut and re welded and have more than one kind of bike in it, and are a middle ground of performance and style.
@submoto
7 жыл бұрын
Cool, thanks for that :-)
@DaxterSnickers
8 жыл бұрын
This man here gave me a dream! Thank you!
@submoto
8 жыл бұрын
Awesome. Hit me up on facebook if you ever need any help :-)
@DaxterSnickers
8 жыл бұрын
+SUBMOTO Wow, you're awesome, thanks, i will :DDD
@Vuurvogel02
9 жыл бұрын
the bike you are riding, is that a nimbus?
@submoto
9 жыл бұрын
I wish I had a Nimbus :-) my dad had one of those :-D I'm on a '81 GS 550 Cafe Racer :-)
@Vuurvogel02
9 жыл бұрын
Also a very nice bike. The nimbus would be a perfect bike to ride with in denmark. By the way great vid. Really showed a good differance between bikes with all a great history
@submoto
9 жыл бұрын
Thanks :-)
@revolution51
9 жыл бұрын
Vuurvogel02 I only know that the guy talking at the begining is not funny, yet he really knows his stuff.
@submoto
9 жыл бұрын
revolutionpm I know, right!?! What a loser! Don't worry, I'll kick his ass if he tries to sneak into a video like that again :-D
@zenblack11
8 жыл бұрын
What about that V-Max custom made by Liberty Yam???? What does it categorize into???
@submoto
8 жыл бұрын
nothing really :-p just a really cool custom bike! probably closest to a café racer, but the frame is too modern and the clip ons are a bit high. but the 'vibe' and its butt are quite café-ish. but like I mention, its very much an art, and sometimes they don't need to be categorized :-) the categories are more like a guideline.
@zenblack11
8 жыл бұрын
Woooooaaaaaah I never really thought about things that way. An art huh, well I guess that makes sense since most custom bikes that are done with a lot of patience and time tend to have this artistic vibe to them. Thanks for the info
@submoto
8 жыл бұрын
+zenblack11 It has traditionally been a controversial subject to refer to motorcycles as art, until The guggenheim museum in NY (one of the most prominent art museums in the world) held an exhibition called 'The Art of the Motorcycle'. Many people were against the idea, but the guggenheim experienced such a high visit rate, that they couldn't say no. So my answer to people who insist that motorcycles aren't art, is usually "if it's good enough for the guggenheim, it's food enough for me" :-p here is the link: en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Art_of_the_Motorcycle
@zenblack11
8 жыл бұрын
Wow! That's amazing!!! Where do you get all this information from??? I'm actually trying to custom build my old Ducati M400 and I'd like more references on bikes like that V-Max from Liberty Yam, or any bike really, as long as it's aerodynamically stable and good looking of course haha
@CeeEmmz
8 жыл бұрын
so what do we call a Bobber that has the stance of a Cafe Racer? (SEE lots of them lately in IG. claming bobber if clearly it doesnt LOOK like the O.G. Bobbers) a COBBER? haha....
@submoto
8 жыл бұрын
A Bobbé Racer hehe :-p I'm not the big bobber expert :-)
@ragzlz8266
8 жыл бұрын
+SUBMOTO a ROBBER :v
@submoto
8 жыл бұрын
+el_raf_o haha, I like that :-p
@Real_MisterSir
7 жыл бұрын
What? A moto vlogger in Copenhagen?! You almost rode right past my apartment :D Do you live in Copenhagen (and are you danish with great accent or foreign?)
@submoto
7 жыл бұрын
Daniel Kemnitz I used to l7ve in Copenhagen :-) og ja, jeg er halv-dansker :-) bor dog i Berlin nu
@Real_MisterSir
7 жыл бұрын
Cool! Jeg fik mc i sommers, bedste investering nogensinde! Har selv tænkt på at lave vlogs men tror ikke jeg har stemmen til det haha.. Er vild med hele retro-stilen! Har allerede et par designs liggende som forhåbentlig kommer til live en dag ;) Ride safe i Berlin
@apodsilvaticus6489
5 жыл бұрын
Cool knowledge bro... but would be really great with some illustration...for people that are looking after this kind of knowledge this video has not helped at all. Keep it up.
@jasoncadogan3761
4 жыл бұрын
Apod Silvaticus the video thumbnail was a little tease of what we needed in this video. I learned a lot otherwise.
@mitchcieslak9476
4 жыл бұрын
Bobbers came after world war 2 in the states. Essentially the men of the armoured reconnaissance batallions rode motorcycles with the 30 Cal machine gun equipped side car. They came home and missed their full dresser Harley's and indian motorcycles. And those bikes were all hardtails. So they kept the hard tails. Shortened the wheelbase lowered the top tube, took off the front fender and chopped the rear fender to modernize and have a more agile and quick motorcycle.
@submoto
4 жыл бұрын
Awesome! yeah, that makes perfect sense :-)
@AlanPolishMotoVlog
7 жыл бұрын
Nice description :)
@jlfoker182
4 жыл бұрын
Where is that beautiful city?
@submoto
4 жыл бұрын
I filmed this video in Copenhagen, Denmark :-)
@larsenpedersen
9 жыл бұрын
I absolutely love your videos! I was wondering if you had any tips for buying the first MC on a budget? I'm currently getting my MC license and would like to purchase a MC (preferably street tracker / cafe racer / scrambler) both for shorter rides and for visiting family in Nordjylland - But is it possible to find a bike that serves both these purposes?
@submoto
9 жыл бұрын
***** Thaks :-) Glad you enjoy the vids. If you're on a budget, but are looking for a certain degree of reliability, I would suggest going for simplicity. The more simple a construction, the less you will have to fix when it stops working. I would therefore strongly suggest a Yamaha SR500. There is no synchronizing involved, since it only has one carb, and the valves are extremely easy to get to. SR's are also incredibly adaptable, and make awesome street trackers. Ofcourse, the compromise is speed (although they have a fair amount of torque), but then again, a tracker's role in life isn't speed, it's manoeuvrability. And they are actually not too bad on longer trips either. A compromise would be an XS650. it has two cylinders, instead of one, but has the same basic construction as the SR. They're just a bit difficult to get your hands on. On the other end of the spectrum is a Honda CB. CB's have a bit more complicated a construction (for older bikes), but are quite reliable, and parts are cheap. CB's usually make better Cafe Racers because thet typically have a bit more power and flexibility in engine tuning etc... If it's your first bike, and you are not that mechanically inclined, I would not recommend a project like that though, since you will be guaranteed to run into complicated mechanical problems at one point or another, especially if you change the air filters or exhaust system. For a customising budget, I would recommend starting at around 2000usd (10.000kr).
@larsenpedersen
9 жыл бұрын
SUBMOTO Hi again, Thanks a lot for the great reply. I've actually been looking into all of the mentioned bikes earlier but I'm somewhat doubting my mechanical capabilities. Right now I'm looking at a Honda CB500 from 1997 - It's a newer bike which probably suits me best due to the fact that it's my first bike and (as you mentioned) I'm no that mechanically inclined. It'll never be a cafe racer, but it'll probably be a fine first bike (at around 20-25.000 kr.).
@submoto
9 жыл бұрын
The CB500 '97 is undoubtably an awesome bike. The only thing with a cb500 is it's V-frame, that doesn't lend itself to the 'classic' look of a café racer or tracker. But anything is possible, and I've seen some amazing cb500 builds out there. But it's a fine line between a street fighter and a café build. Check out my video on 'how to build (design) a café racer', where I kind of explain that aspect of the design. But when that's all said and done, we can ask ourselves if the guys who built the original café racers back in the 60's would have used a bike like the more modern cb500 had it been available back then? And the answer is without a doubt; YES!, they would have! 'Coz it's a great bike :-)
@larsenpedersen
9 жыл бұрын
Hah, I've actually watched that video just the other day - so I'm aware of the V-frame and the fact that the CB500 never will become a classic cafe racer, but I think it'll still be a pretty rad bike with adjusted clip ons and some modifications to the seat and back :) Once again thank you for the reply - much appreciated!
@larsenpedersen
9 жыл бұрын
If you ever come across some amazing CB500 builds using a 1997-ish-model, please let me know! - Most of the builds are using older CB500s :)
@yd1996
7 жыл бұрын
Hello, I'm from Taiwan. I'm a fan of retro motor, and I wondering about the difference between cafe, tracker and so on. And I found your video which is very helpful, so I wanna translate your video into Chinese on my channel if you don't mind. Because there's really not much explanation about this in Taiwan. If that's Okay please reply me and thank you very much!!
@submoto
7 жыл бұрын
Sure, no problem at all :-)
@what7287
7 жыл бұрын
so basically they're all cafe racers but with one thing different? well that's stupid.
@calin7017
5 жыл бұрын
Even worse, they've brought nothing new to the table since they are basically old design and refurbished. Really, designers have run out of ideeas.
@briansteffmagnussen9078
8 жыл бұрын
Small light and angry. I think i'll start with a KN filter and expansion exhaust, then i'll remove the battery and airfilter. Then single seat and either tracker bar or clip on's. I know that it will ride like a bag of potatoes because it is a MZ. But it is more show than go, And old people either love or hate the sound of a two stroke. I'll just need to figure out how i can wire it without the battery.
@submoto
8 жыл бұрын
I personally love 2-strokes :-)
@JakobTheDane
9 жыл бұрын
DAMN, I miss driving along Amager beach :)
@submoto
9 жыл бұрын
Jakob The Dane yeah, it's a nice stretch, just a bit short :-p it could go on for miles if it were up to me :-)
@JakobTheDane
9 жыл бұрын
SUBMOTO ye indeed, I hope the weather is good this weekend, so I can take a trip to the beach :)
@gorillaau
8 жыл бұрын
+Submoto I have been curious to get an Australia Postie bike and turn it into a Rat bike. Oh for those that don't know them, they are contract ordered through Honda, usally called a CT110, engine size 105cc, with automatic clutch. Paint it off-black such as charcoal or darkest grey and it could be a good start... maybe. Getting it through road regulations could be a pain though.
@submoto
8 жыл бұрын
That sounds like a pretty awesome build! :-D
@swskitso
8 жыл бұрын
I just picked up an 81 honda CM400A the A is for automatic felt like an idiot asking the guy to explain how to use automatic
@submoto
8 жыл бұрын
+mike dutdut oh wow, never heard of that! interesting!
@brasilaventuradetectorismo1607
5 жыл бұрын
SUCESSO sempre parabéns .desejo a você toda a sorte do mundo para você sempre sucesso e muitas conquistas e prosperidades sempre sucesso .Deixando aquele GIGA LIKEEE 🇧🇷👍🏼
@wordreet
8 жыл бұрын
What can I say? I guess you're about 80% correct, but a little bit of extra info is missing. I know nothing about the Brat style, I never even heard it before today. A Cafe racer was originally a person, just a guy, usually, with a bike, who hung out at a cafe ( more likely a pub ) with his mates and they would race to a roundabout or junction and back again, or even to another pub, no, wait, I mean cafe. The bikes didn't matter in the earliest days, you would just use what you had. But everyone wants to win, so bikes were stripped of unnecessary parts to save weight, drop bars or clip-ons were fitted along with smaller seats and exhausts and the gearing and suspension altered. Rearset footrests and other race parts were fitted, if you could afford them. The bikes weren't specifically intended to look like race machines, but obviously you would copy a faster type of bike, hoping to go faster yourself. So eventually the bikes were called cafe racers and now we just say it's a Cafe Racer because it looks that way. caferacertv.com/the-history-of-cafe-racers/ A Scrambler, would also have been a person and/or their bike. Motorcycle Scrambles was simply an early name for Moto Cross (MotoX) kzitem.info/news/bejne/k49tnaaJoXhobIY and one of the gentlemen in that video is probably Adrian Moss ( I don't know his face from that time) who, along with The Rickman Brothers, who's van you can see at 1:49 organized the first Vintage motorcycle scrambles series in '82 for bikes made before 1965. The Rickman Bros were well known competition bike builders and eventually made frames for road and rack bikes So you could have a Rickman Vitesse Mk3 scrambler and a Rickman cafe racer in your garage if you wanted. And I suppose you still can if you have enough money! ;¬) I had a Rickman Top Fairing on my Yamaha RD350LC back around 1981.
@submoto
8 жыл бұрын
+wordreet correct, here is my video where I mention that :-) kzitem.info/news/bejne/mZyOwGiHfIxio5w
@wordreet
8 жыл бұрын
+wordreet LoL! Only now have I read the confusion bloke's comment from earlier! :¬D
@submoto
8 жыл бұрын
+wordreet btw, the comment I wrote in the thread I just deleted was not meant towards you :-)
@wordreet
8 жыл бұрын
SUBMOTO I already forgot what it was . . .
@Destiny-zw8hf
5 жыл бұрын
Ok where is he that there is a yellow after red and before green
@Substereomusic
5 жыл бұрын
hehe, a mystery indeed :-p
@LucianC137
6 жыл бұрын
Looks to me they are all interchangeable.
@bullsaye7
6 жыл бұрын
intro made me sub :D
@GenerationAI2024
7 жыл бұрын
you from denmark?
@submoto
7 жыл бұрын
Coldoikz1 only kinda sorta maybe :-p I explain it here: m.kzitem.info/news/bejne/kpqLtpeonIiUhaw
@GenerationAI2024
7 жыл бұрын
thx...
@shavguru
8 жыл бұрын
wordreet said it best
@LCS353
9 жыл бұрын
Legal seria se tivesse a opção de traduzir na legenda pro português falado no Brasil.
@submoto
9 жыл бұрын
LCS353 Sinto muito, eu não falo português. Eu só falo Espanhol, Alemão, Inglês e dinamarquês. Seria muito difícil para mim escrever legendas em brasileiro
@xhope7902
8 жыл бұрын
The beggening of the video the motorcycle what is it call
@submoto
8 жыл бұрын
the one in the intro? it's 1981 GS550 Cafe Racer with a Benelli tank and a Motolanna seat
@TheGriphon
8 жыл бұрын
Nice vid bro.
@submoto
8 жыл бұрын
Nice thumbnail/profile pic :-)
@TheGriphon
8 жыл бұрын
Thanks. I always wondered why Scramblers has this high exaust... Now i know thx
@submoto
8 жыл бұрын
Check out +Tyler Stone 's comment further down in this comment section. He has some cool additional info on scrambler pipes etc. :-)
@BillCompo
8 жыл бұрын
Glad to see someone clear this up for the masses. I see Cafe Racer when it's clearly a tracker. Cafe Racer has clubman bars or clip on bars and a bum stop seat. Tracker has a longer 60's-70's style seat with upright motocross style bars styled after old flat track bikes. A brat style the frame must be shortened typically a bobber but now days many are really trackers with shorter frames and seats. A rat bike is is unrestored beater bike rusty greasy leaks oil generally a pile of crap no one wants to be seen on.Scramblers have those pipes that go up one side I call thigh burners but basically a dirt bike that if you change the tires and pipes it becomes a street bike again. I hate those thigh burner pipes I was so glad to see them go out in the early 70's but some tit head had to bring them back. lol
@submoto
8 жыл бұрын
yup :-) that about sums it up
@BillCompo
8 жыл бұрын
Oh I forgot the street fighters which I have my own theory how they came to be they're R6 R1 GSXR CBR'S that were wrecked but still rideable but the plastics were trashed and the rider couldn't afford new plastics so they removed all the plastics and someone called it a street fighter no one cared if they dropped it again while stunt riding. Now we have naked bikes with minimal plastics that double as production street fighters.
@eiserntorsphantomoftheoper2154
8 жыл бұрын
I still have scar from a Honda 305
@dragonracer76
8 жыл бұрын
I figured "Scramblers" were simply people who used mid pipes like the ones on the co series Honda Scramblers. ...like my 68 cl175.. and triumphs scrambler..
@submoto
8 жыл бұрын
+dragonracer76 A scrambler is typically a road bike that is converted to be able to handle rougher terrain. To do this, it usually has a tracker handle bar (often with a reinforces cross bar), rougher tires and a raised pipe, so as to avoid getting water in the exhaust system. Check this link out: it explains it quite well :-D www.ellaspede.com/scrambler-brief-history/
@stevesawatsky
8 жыл бұрын
+SUBMOTO so would you say a scrambler and a supermotard are opposite sides of the same coin?
@submoto
8 жыл бұрын
+thewolf well wikipedia describes supermotard as "motorcycle racing on a circuit that alternates between three types of track: flat track, motocross and road racing", where as a scrambler has is its roots way back in the 20's where people used them for point-to-point races in terrain. This eventually evolved into closed circuit racing, and ultimately is now what we call 'motocross'. So if one were to make an analogy, I would much rather be inclined to call the scrambler for the granddaddy of supermotard :-) ...but that's just me :-p
@Jeremy-yr8yg
8 жыл бұрын
Looking for a project bike now! Can't wait!
@submoto
8 жыл бұрын
Good luck :-)
@Jonoman777
7 жыл бұрын
thought it would be an informational video, but just another moto blogger rambling. too many of these on KZitem
@submoto
7 жыл бұрын
Jonathan Burg Yeah... life is hard sometimes huh. don't worry, I'll always be here if you need a shoulder to cry on :-)
@firdausahsin3898
5 жыл бұрын
The flat trac first i think
@eddieg849
6 жыл бұрын
I like the part where you said they're going to arrest you for being so awesome. police officers👈
@modlinfilmz1796
5 жыл бұрын
To make your vids better edit out your “uhhhs” and stutters, makes it smoother
@submoto
5 жыл бұрын
thank you :-) I appreciate the feedback
@modlinfilmz1796
5 жыл бұрын
SUBMOTO your vids are awesome don’t get me wrong, I completely respect what you’re doing! Just hopin to help you out
@submoto
5 жыл бұрын
And you are absolutely right. I have noticed as well, and have tried to minimize it in more recent videos. This was one of my first vids. But I still need to watch out. I tend to do it still, if I don't actively think about it.
@OGWhinnyBaby29
6 жыл бұрын
4:05 What's the bike? A Yamaha what?
@submoto
6 жыл бұрын
Chris C. It's a Yamaha XS650 Tracker conversion :-)
@transdetendal
9 жыл бұрын
rat bikes are the bikes that are looking like well used(overly) and tho maintained only very little or to the minimum to still be a drivable viecle! a bit like mine!! bobbers are just a strpped down bike aranged so it fits the owner ,started in the states after ww1 when they didnt have cross or track bikes as 2. bike ,but used their normal wartime everyday bike to score money on it with races! cool vid bro , nice to see the bitch still moves around ! SO what was the deal with it??
@submoto
9 жыл бұрын
transdetendal Awesome, I didn't know that about bobbers :-) Yeah, I think she's doing better now. She had a severe fuel mixture issue. The plugs were burning unevenly ( and still are a bit actually). IT was so bad, that the plugs would foul completely after just 50km's, so I had to change the plugs. I just recently went back to the old butt-ugly stock air filter, got new coils, new CDI, everything in the carbs is now replaced with new parts and the diaphragms have also been changed. So pretty much EVERYTHING has been replaced. She still burns too lean on the highway, and too rich in town, but it feels ok to ride. My cylinder 3, still fouls too rich though. The compression test showed it was ok, and I also just adjusted the valves. I only need to synchronize the carbs now, so I need to get ahold of a vacuum-meter. I think that may even do something for my cylinder nr. 3
@transdetendal
9 жыл бұрын
SUBMOTO yup unbalanced carbs are shitty to ride , try to zero what cylinder burns best and turn all screws on turn them equally amount out to get a rough estiment of if its better , there by you can find the problem.
@lamejify
7 жыл бұрын
lacquer it with ......... may I ask what
@submoto
7 жыл бұрын
Jemal Freeman sorry, didn't get the question
@TheDaveSausages
8 жыл бұрын
I've seen plenty of rat choppers :)
@submoto
8 жыл бұрын
Yeah, not quite my bag to be honest :-) but some are quite creative
@johnnyboy1586
3 жыл бұрын
Love the tracker style ....regards from NZ
@TheDatpussy
9 жыл бұрын
Are you danish? You do not have a danish accent
@submoto
9 жыл бұрын
Only in part :-) I hope this video answers your question: kzitem.info/news/bejne/kpqLtpeonIiUhaw
@esaedvik
8 жыл бұрын
+McMuffinFluffin A lot of Scandinavians (happens elsewhere too probably) watch loads of TV and movies and lose their accent. I know I've lost mine that way. I lived in Dublin and was mistaken for an American all the time.
@submoto
8 жыл бұрын
Very true, in my case English is my first language though :-)
@avinashhapse7027
5 жыл бұрын
Ghochu!!!
@marlonajigalvan3145
5 жыл бұрын
It would've been better if he was in a room.
@submoto
5 жыл бұрын
I will tell him :-D
@whatwhatyep
6 жыл бұрын
When you ahvent got a lue what your talking about!
@submoto
6 жыл бұрын
Eddie Oliver oyur rihgt! compeletly lueless, this bloke!
@whatwhatyep
6 жыл бұрын
Admn irght
@pandasoldier9434
5 жыл бұрын
Trackmbler (tracker scrambler) 😈🔥🔥
@shavguru
8 жыл бұрын
just band- wagon jumpers. that's all. wanna latch on to the "in thing". no originality, no difference between any of them, 'cept the paint. don't be original, just copy everyone else. that simple. bobbers are the worst. ooh, I saw this bike, and that's what's in, I'm gonna copy it
@submoto
8 жыл бұрын
I follow you. I think I even made a vid on that subject at one point. But sometimes there's nothing wrong with seeing a bike and liking the look so much that you want one just like it. My hat is off to originality, and the cool thing about originality is that it really brings out the diamonds in the rough. But art is always so difficult to define. Sometimes just 'different' isn't always good. It's a REALLY difficult balance to build something unique, yet within tradition. But that's what makes it an art-form in my opinion :-)
@oneshothooligan6279
5 жыл бұрын
Lost me on the first 4 seconds
@submoto
5 жыл бұрын
Awesome! :-) I think that still counts towards view revenue
@askevalbjrncarlsen9545
7 жыл бұрын
hey submoto if your dansih er du dansker for det er cool jeg hvil gerne have en bmv srabler men sydes du er den er god
@submoto
7 жыл бұрын
aske valbjørn carlsen jeg er fra Danmark :-) ha de er mega sprøde, men koster godt nok en bondegård
@askevalbjrncarlsen9545
7 жыл бұрын
laver du stadi vidioer du har ikke lagt så meget op jeg gad gere hvis det kunne ske at du kunne købe ned brugt og gammel cafe racer eller scambler og lave den om til dit behov så den kunne se nice ud :)
@submoto
7 жыл бұрын
har ikke lagt så meget ud siden jeg flyttede til Berlin. jeg er toptilfreds med mit sidste byg, så laver nok ikke så mange flere projekter
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