As a Catholic young man, I was part of a North and south exchange, theyspent a weekend in Dublin with us, we spent a weekend with them protestants! Scary at first, but thank god I did, such a great weekend, never will I ever forget the people I met, took great care of us 🙏
@paullooney2522
4 жыл бұрын
I cant hate any Irish Prodstant,mabe thats because,I am from the South and am from a Prodstant/Catholic family,but what I do beleave,is there are evil people with power ,who will try to divide us,and keep us Irish weak.
@picassoboy52
2 жыл бұрын
people always think they are enemies until you get them into a room and get to know them
@Mr-pn2eh
2 жыл бұрын
There is division there. As it should be. As an American all I can say right now is Go team protestant.
@countsmyth
4 жыл бұрын
Loyalist - "They're forcing their culture down our throats" the irony!
@charlenefalls8533
4 жыл бұрын
both sides r as bad each other, I'm a protestant from east belfast i was born into the troubles loyalist /nationalist if they caused innocent deaths I have no time 4 any of them as I had more catholic friends all my life n will always have time 4 them
@darthscouser5255
4 жыл бұрын
@@charlenefalls8533 - are you near andersonstown?
@charlenefalls8533
4 жыл бұрын
@@darthscouser5255 y do u ask ?
@charlenefalls8533
4 жыл бұрын
@@darthscouser5255 2 answer ur question no if u read my own post u would have seen that but had friends who I visited in andytown
@darthscouser5255
4 жыл бұрын
@@charlenefalls8533 - no reason......my cousin was based in a barracks in andersonstown in the army.....royal engineers.....i remember him saying it was east belfast.......talking over 10 years ago like
@Mattvallo
4 жыл бұрын
Sad documentary. I visited Belfast and Derry in 2013 with my brother. Amazing people. Those cities will forever have a place in my heart.
@rusty7720
3 жыл бұрын
I visited Belfast in 2009 ,traveled 12,000miles from my home country,I got talking to a gruff voiced Belfast guy.He asked my surname I answered, he then replied "Aarh you'd be Catholic, page oh you in the book".He meant the local phone book.I replied "You've never met nor seen me in your life before now". He replied "Tell by the look oh yah" That was my introduction to a religious divide.
@nervesinapattern7261
3 жыл бұрын
The working class on both sides suffered the most and there was no real winners.
@truthhurts4280
4 жыл бұрын
I heard Dominic O’Connors death. I lived down the street, I was friends with his daughter Michelle. They were about to go on holiday that day. My mum dragged us from the parlour to the back living room when we heard the shots. It was heartbreaking. I, my siblings my mother and stepfather all had the exact same dream once, where we were taken outside and shot one by one after Mr O’Connor was killed.
@leadzeppbelly
3 жыл бұрын
I’m so sorry to hear about his and hope you are doing ok. Do you know how Michelle and the rest of the family are now?
@arthurp-er1yz
Жыл бұрын
My G-D! What terrible experience! You Irish have such beautiful and strong qualities. Imagine the greatness of the nation, the people, of they united? Seems to me, an hidden external force is behind the division. I Believe we're on the same path, but thru Internal conspiracy. (Arthur U.S.A)
@riazullah437
6 жыл бұрын
Them poor little girls who had there father shot in there own home in front of them I bet there minds have been damaged.
@ABc-hg4og
6 жыл бұрын
Riaz Ullah prove it
@myview2543
6 жыл бұрын
huh
@ostapbendervan7874
4 жыл бұрын
IN DUE TIME TOO EARLY ONE.MORE GENERATION
@annaconway313
2 жыл бұрын
@@ABc-hg4og prove what?!!
@clockwork365
4 жыл бұрын
19:21 "Tom was convicted with Ray of shooting a Catholic woman, he spent 11 years in jail and was only recently released. His son feels proud of what his father did." My God what a bunch of useless human beings. Utter scumbags.
@lucasvernale1571
3 жыл бұрын
11 years for the murder of a woman... wow
@pauldunneska
3 жыл бұрын
@@lucasvernale1571 The comment said shooting but was she shot dead?
@korpiklaaniband2277
3 жыл бұрын
yer ma
@PostPatriot
3 жыл бұрын
What like America isnt full of people shooting women and children for less? Even with the troubles America has more murder per capita than North Ireland. 🤣
@clockwork365
3 жыл бұрын
@@PostPatriot Whataboutism drivel
@howey935
5 жыл бұрын
I used to work in the Nederland’s with an Irish lad who had been chased out of Belfast after he was shot in the knees and ankles because he was robbing post offices. They didn’t kneecap him because he robbed the post offices no the kneecapped him because he wouldn’t give them a share of the money he got. So he had his flat door kicked in at 4 o’clock one morning and he was shot on his own bedroom floor and was told this is a warning to get out of Ireland.
@zlkzak
5 жыл бұрын
@SRV. 123 No they do shoot house breakers and such. And also joyriders get 6 packs if they continue.. 6pack= shot through feet, knees and elbows. Alot of the time if your getting kneecaps done your parent is told a place and a time, they actually bring their own son do be beaten or shot.. if they don't turn up it'll be worse or have to leave the country. Make no mistake about it, the vast majority of these little fuckers deserve what's coming to them. Although sometimes mistakes are sadly made.
@ostapbendervan7874
4 жыл бұрын
Loyalists girly story Too.cute Now go.to.mommy breast milk
@DonCHICHARRON420
4 жыл бұрын
@@ostapbendervan7874 dirty TAIG
@patrickconnors9448
4 жыл бұрын
@@DonCHICHARRON420 you dirty little prod
@natashaferran
3 жыл бұрын
Why are you calling him “an Irish lad”? If he was born in belfast he is from Northern Ireland which is a separate country from Ireland and Northern Ireland is BRITISH. Also he sounds like he deserved it. Also maybe he was robbing the opposite religions post offices so his own religions paramilitaries asked him for a cut? Because I dont see them letting that continue if he was doing in in his own religions area. Obviously I could be wrong there. But I am born and bred (and so are my parents) East Belfast and have lived here all of my life and am 26 years of age so I sort of know a fair bit.
@killakristian7084
6 жыл бұрын
you see ,in the next clip,, the difference between freedom fighters and murderers!! when loyalist death squads burst in and murdered a man in front of his kids, his only crime, was being a catholic, leslie duggans husband was a member of the uvf, and the movement left her alone, simply because she was not a legitimate target. that's the difference in a rebel with a cause,, and a murderer with no soul. slan go foil, soairse
@killakristian7084
6 жыл бұрын
where was that then,, name me 1? "legitimate target" they were victims of war,collateral damage,innocent victims,,im talking about murderous attacks on innocent catholic people in their homes. your ad hominem wont work here,,, nor will your "cillit bang " clean over it. slan ,mo chara.
@thesarsfieldcfc
6 жыл бұрын
Sinn é
@Itsjustmyselfsoitis
6 жыл бұрын
Cillit Bang They weren't "legitimate" targets, thats why the IRA phoned warnings and even apologised when civilians were hurt or killed. Contrary to the propaganda of "thugs" and "baby killers", killing civilians was never popular amongst republicans at the very least because they lost support each time. Politicians, soldiers, cops, rival paramilitarys, plus government and economically important buildings - they were legitimate targets. You can see from the stats who favoured and killed more innocent people - loyalists by a good stretch. The IRA killed more people over-all, true, but the majority of that number were "legitimate" targets, around 30-35% were civilians, roughly 700 people. Loyalists killed near 1000 people (half as much as the IRA / INLA) near 90% of that were innocent people, so near 900 people. You can add the death caused by the Brits and RUC to the British body count or not, either way the "British" people in that conflict definitely killed more innocent people. Wind your neck in mate. Irish people fought for their freedom and to rid themselves of an oppressive foreign colonial regime. Loyalists fought to uphold it. Maybe if Irish people didn't have to fuckin march for civil rights and we were treated as equals we might have accepted British rule but you'se never learn. Always thinkin you're above republicans - even by law not too long ago. The Irish haven't got much to thank Britain for, Read history and educate yourself on the sort of thing you support. I don't fully support the IRA but there are goals all Irish people share with groups like these. And given Britains bloody tyrannical history on this island don't expect us to forget or move on, "its all in the past"... nah, we need to right a few wrongs before we can move on.
@Itsjustmyselfsoitis
6 жыл бұрын
Lee Bartlett Why'd you leave out all the loyalist massacres? Do you'se get taught that list of La Mon, Kingsmill etc? I keep seein loyalists repeat the same list. Enniskillen wasn't right, they should have targeted the soldiers better. And Omagh? Why'd the cops not lift the fella that done it, because touts gave up the guys name BEFORE it went off? Europa could be viewed as an 'economic target' so in a sense it was 'legitimate' from the IRAs point of view anyway. Thats why they blew up the London Stock-Exchange, Manchester and plenty of places in Belfast city centre. If busniesss' stopped operating that meant bit by bit they fucked with the British economy. Thats why they were referred to as 'economic targets' - civilians did die, but the goal wasn't that. You sit there like you're so moral when fact is YOUR side killed even more civilians and they did it intentionally. And don't think i'm defending killing civilians, i'm just puttin this in perspective. Tell me mate, what do you think of this quote; "at the time, the attitude was that if you couldn't get an IRA man you should shoot a Taig, he's your last resort" - Gusty Spence (UVF commander)
@killakristian7084
6 жыл бұрын
@@Terracecasualx5 warnings /phone calls were giving well in advance... with the exception of frizzells fish shop... which was a no warning device.. where 1 volunteer was killed... and even that was supposed to be an operation with a warning... Dublin and monaghan bombs.. British Intelligence... no warning.. ballymurphy massacre..no warning.. 14 mown down in Derry..no warning.. (not 1 ira volunteer was murdered that day)... loyalist death squads.. loughall... no warning... the people that got a warning .. were the loyalist/ ruc death squads by the intelligence services... I could go on... as for the Europa hotel... every time their phone rang.. it was a bomb... and ive no doubt..the the slimey govt crown forces played a hand in most of them... " no warnings"!!! hahaha... here's a warning for you... don't believe everything you hear.. and only half of what you read. slan go foil mochara... saoirse. Erin.
@richardgoldie5923
4 жыл бұрын
And Kevin is showing signs of the new era!! Well done lad more people like you will and in time it will be a lot better
@headtheballington
3 жыл бұрын
He's in jail on terrorism charges.
@paule6945
3 жыл бұрын
Jailed in 2015 for storing semtex for the provos.........
@soeffingwhat
4 жыл бұрын
Important to remember that though documentaries like this are valuable to keep, these are OLD. This is from 1993 and though things up North still aren't perfect, its a lot different now and a lot better. As a musician from the republic I've done gigs up North in some Unionist Towns that would have been impossible to play back in the early 90s.
@user-br3bw7wr2l
4 жыл бұрын
Well said.
@soeffingwhat
4 жыл бұрын
@Mark Kenny No problem, thanks for asking, its a welcome break from talking abut Covid 19 lol. I felt no hatred from them at all. For the most part I feel the majority want to truly keep the peace while also keeping their heritage. That said I was careful lol. Things are different to 1993 but brexit was very much on the horizon at the time and didn't help things. That said Brexit is done, we're now dealing with this pandemic and I hope the majority of us will come through truly realizing that none of these things really matter. Some won't learn, there are a lot of idiots around, but I think a lot will.
@paulwevers2109
4 жыл бұрын
@@soeffingwhat Good to state that here. I could give you my thoughts as a complete outsider and living in one of the most stable country`s in Europe but that would be to easy. But i will try in a respectful manner. Please correct me on anything in any way you feel needed. Harsh or politely correcting. Ok, here is how thinking people abroad think in general terms on this madness, It has nothing to do with religion. Protestant or Catholic in these times do not matter any more. They are both formed out of Christianity and outdated in terms of science and modern knowledge that is now so easy to get in these globalising information streams. So when i see someone speaking on those two the word that comes in mind is dumb or uneducated. Further more, is it far from truth when i think the vast majority of Ireland as a whole just want peace? That its really a big minority that still stays in this mindset of violence for a cause? Is it also fair to say that that minority was also a minority in the past but that speaking out was flat out dangerous because of the reaction from these people? Like growing up in a extreme religious environment , like Islam these days, you just keep with the plan because else you would become a social outcast? Is it just some pockets of neighbourhoods in present times? Because the Irish i have met so far could not be bothered with it any more. They just hate the Rangers or Celtic and that is it :-) I have a lot of thoughts but to much to write down here i guess. Hope you have a lot of music events to do in the future with all sorts of people. Music and sports are great to get people together. I just watch a older episode of cycling documentary on a Belgian race. I now love Belgium. Its so easy. Easy`r then disliking.
@Barbarous_Wretch
4 жыл бұрын
@@paulwevers2109 It had nothing to do with religion. 'catholic' and 'protestant' were convenient tags for two different peoples/cultures or lineage.
@rodgeyd6728
4 жыл бұрын
@@soeffingwhat Best comment I've read, also been English and never been to Ireland either North or South , hoping things improve for the whole region on both sides.
@p.e.i.man-canada-1372
5 жыл бұрын
To me, this whole Catholic VS Protestant thing is a British media narrative... saying that the people in the north are protestant and the republic is catholic, and they tell the world that is the reason for the fighting... trying to make it seem religious rather than a political fight. That way they can set people at one another for all the wrong reasons, and keep people from thinking about the real reasons for the conflict. I am thousands of miles away and even I have this figured out, i'd say. Someone from the area help me out if I am wrong.
@CaptainMorganxxx
5 жыл бұрын
It is not the media, the Irish are religion mad, it even crosses over into Scotland, where even football clubs are either prods or caths.
@alexdoherty1806
5 жыл бұрын
P.E.I. Man -Canada- the troubles was more of an issue of national identity rather than religion, at the end of the day its the same religion however the two sides want two different political outcomes
@thetoecurler6852
5 жыл бұрын
P.E.I. Man -Canada- I’ve lived in west Belfast all my life. You’re right, it’s the same story all over the world.
@gruntymchunchy1527
5 жыл бұрын
You are correct e.g. Irish Republican Brotherhood included both protestant's and catholic's. The religion is just a narrative, it was an easy way to downplay the real issues. The cause of conflict was nothing to do with religion itself. Religion only become more important in identity because it is easier to identify someone based on their religion rather than personal political affiliation and ethnicity which is not as overtly obvious. This worked only because it happened that most Unionists are protestant and most Nationalists are catholic.
@alex-sv8ru
5 жыл бұрын
P.E.I. Man -Canada- It was an ethnic conflict. The two ethnicities were 'Protestant' (descendants of Briton settlers in Ulster) and 'Catholic' (the native Irish). The British sent settlers to South Africa aswell, but the world knows who are the natives of South Africa and who are the colonists who came over a few hundred years ago. In Ireland, it's difficult to distinguish between them. Because both are white.
@gc6854
6 жыл бұрын
Now it is 2018. Belfast is on a building boom to transform the city into a tourist city. The peace walls will eventually be taken down leaving a small section for the tourists to learn Belfast’s history.
@chrisbelfast6662
5 жыл бұрын
Yeah it's amazing Belfast is definitely up and coming just need them feckin bars open till 6am!
@gc6854
5 жыл бұрын
I wonder how lovers handle being Catholic and Protestant and living on opposite side of the wall? Modern day Romeo and Juliet.
@mactoirdealbhaigh7624
5 жыл бұрын
@@gc6854 Love conquers all !!!
@alex-sv8ru
5 жыл бұрын
G C It's great that the protestants and catholics are coming together against the paramilitaries (both unionist and nationalist). I only hope that Brexit doesn't result in a hard border!
@aviationiceman9549
4 жыл бұрын
G C get me a pair of those rose tinted glasses please
@countsmyth
6 жыл бұрын
Shot a catholic woman, and son is proud?
@bam-skater
3 жыл бұрын
Shot an individual who was up to her eyeballs with the IRA in reality
@countsmyth
3 жыл бұрын
@@bam-skater You applaud killing a woman...
@freddyferret2313
3 жыл бұрын
Loyalists are the far right, majority have no religion.
@sandrarock.5007
4 жыл бұрын
My brother was killed in 1993 for nothing. He was friends with both sides. He was shot 10 time's by inla. Scum anyone who kills.
@eoincaomhanach1983
4 жыл бұрын
sadly both sides were as bad as each other at times, although depending on which side you ask it's all the other sides fault. Sorry for you and your family's loss.
@iamsoldierf8316
4 жыл бұрын
Sorry for your loss. Sam was your brother? Rosewood street. Think I was on that did the cordon.
@sandrarock.5007
3 жыл бұрын
@@iamsoldierf8316 o I see what you mean now. Yes he was my wee brother. He's missed still so much.
@sandrarock.5007
3 жыл бұрын
@@iamsoldierf8316 Sam had friends from both sides and hated what was going on here. He loved football and was helping my son to be a brilliant footballer. My son didn't play football again as he missed him not being there. All this killing leaves love one heartbroken for year's to come. Thank god my son is not bitter about it as he knew what Sam told him what was going on here. He's 42 now and now he thinks back and says mum I wish I had of played the football as Sam was trying to get me out of Belfast he knew what it was like. My son was one of the best in Belfast at playing football he was in England playing with the best just before Sam was killed.
@wanaspola216
3 жыл бұрын
Sorry to hear this :( Politics is stupid.
@paulhall2397
5 жыл бұрын
All I want is Peace!
@stevenjonesj.r2759
4 жыл бұрын
No just u, most of the ppl across the WORLD want peace. U do hve some ppl across the world tht want war, but its more the politicians who end up causing problems w/ their word nd actions. Which in turn drive ppl to violence, nd most of the ppl it drives to violence. Are the one's who really peace, but they see no other way to try nd change their situations besides trying to spill enough blood to cause change! To be honest history has shown, weather its from the American war or independence or the other wars in history. Spilling enough blood will eventually bring change!! We all need to learn how to live with each other, no matter ur religion, race, how much money u hve, or any other bs like tht! We are all humans, nd we all just want to survive nd take care of our families!!!
@trevorlefiles8633
4 жыл бұрын
@Jeremy Amundsen if you want freedom prepare for war.
@user-go3jv8rw7i
4 жыл бұрын
Can’t have peace as long as the British remain on the island of IRELAND
@mufc20timesbitches36
3 жыл бұрын
@@user-go3jv8rw7i governments all over the world use divide and conquer, to have you at each other’s throats. BECAUSE YOU’RE EASIER TO CONTROL
@julieheudebourck
3 жыл бұрын
@@user-go3jv8rw7i it’s a pity we British are also Irish, we have to live together and let the politicians fight themselves. How many lives did they cost this Island.
@tomg5187
2 жыл бұрын
Breaks your heart to watch. I’m so glad I didn’t have to grow up with any of this stuff, makes me feel so lucky ❤️
@obwhankanobee1923
2 жыл бұрын
Glad to see that the peace in the north of Ireland has taken hold with a settlement for the past and the Irish finally realizing there is hope for the future. It wll take time, but so does any other quest for progress. Keep the faith and Keep the Peace. .....
@ProjectCreativityGuy96
6 ай бұрын
No matter what ethnicity You are from, division can be extremely toxic sometimes... I am sick of all this hate and fear mongering!
@Timo8.2.
6 жыл бұрын
What a hero killed an innocent catholic woman, a civilian and his son is proud of him
@garymccann5079
6 жыл бұрын
Yep that got me too.
@Craig-gq4gb
5 жыл бұрын
Howzer The man They literally said she had nothing to do with politics, let alone Republicanism, i find it hard to believe she was in the IRA, based on the fact she wasn’t a Republican.
@bammy1690
4 жыл бұрын
M.F. Luder that wasn’t who he killed, he shot Bernadette Devlin and her taig husband . She survived
@jackietreehorn5561
6 жыл бұрын
Those clothes in the 90s .. takes me right back! 😂
@andrewgnys6285
5 жыл бұрын
The clothes, the car's maybe even a "acid rave" too. I loved the 90's
@danfield6030
4 жыл бұрын
Acieeeeeed
@danfield6030
4 жыл бұрын
All horns , all whistle creeeeewwwwwwwww. Glowsick masive inside
@danfield6030
4 жыл бұрын
@@andrewgnys6285 selectahhhh eeenside
@mufc20timesbitches36
3 жыл бұрын
@@danfield6030 we took a lot of disco biscuits to sell on tour. Fucking ace times.
@GeorgeSquare
4 жыл бұрын
That guy Kevin, the Catholic with the pigeons near the end was the most balanced Catholic in the programe. He means well. No hate him in.
@PostPatriot
3 жыл бұрын
You don't know what it's like to have a family member imprisoned for "being Catholic" or just being killed. Rewatch the video and listen to the kids telling about life you Americans are clueless about.
@GeorgeSquare
3 жыл бұрын
@@PostPatriot Bit ironic calling someone American and clueless, I'm British, from Scotland and used to live in N.Ireland for a period
@bfdcitybullsjosh6797
3 жыл бұрын
English catholic here. Glad nobody here cares we all live together no quarms watsoever
@donbryant58
6 жыл бұрын
"Look at the faces and listen to the bells , hard to believe we need a place called hell."
@edspencer2756
4 жыл бұрын
Devil Inside by INXS told the truth on that one...
@NapoleonGelignite
4 жыл бұрын
Hatred and fear breeds hatred and fear. The troubles were a tragedy. So many young lives, so much promise, all snuffed out in the name of tribal identity. Never again.
@jamesharden7459
2 жыл бұрын
And one fashion dnt know who they are..but one thing i do no..they are not british
@stedevo7149
2 жыл бұрын
I'm English and from Liverpool & a Catholic and ive watched a lot of these documentaries, first and foremost my heart goes out to both sides that have lost love ones🙏and I probably don't have a right to give my tuppence worth about the conflicts but as a human being i will, you are all pissing against the wind, there will never be a winner in all this. It is complex theres no getting away from that but tit for tat killings are a 2 minute victory then its the oppositions turn, its going round in circles with no end result.
@Mr-pn2eh
2 жыл бұрын
As an American all I can say to you is frickin papist.
@ULHIS
3 жыл бұрын
We've come a long way. We still bitch at one another from time to time over shite. But together we'll get there, our way. I'm very proud of all the people of Belfast and indeed to be from West Belfast. Unionist, Nationalist, doesn't matter anymore, we've seen what peace can achieve us, and that is what will keep us going 💚🧡
@Itsjustmyselfsoitis
6 жыл бұрын
Wasn't sure if this was made in the 90s but the music at 2:20 is a bit of a giveaway.
@BurtonRdForever
5 жыл бұрын
1993.
@Poonaanee
4 жыл бұрын
Sinne Fianna Fáil, Atá faoi gheall ag Eirinn, Buíonn dár slua, thar toinn do ráinig chugainn, Faoi mhóid bheith saor, seantír ár sinsear feasta Ní fhágfar faoin tíorán ná faoin tráill; Anocht a théam sa Bhearna Baoil Le gean ar Ghaeil chun báis nó saoil, le gunnaí scréach, trí lámhach na bpiléar, Seo dhíbh canáigh, Amhrán na bhFiann. Tiocfaidh ár lá
@DM-it1qf
6 жыл бұрын
My parents recently went on holiday where they went to Ireland for a little while on a guided tour trip. They loved the Republic and thought everything was so beautiful, but they said in comparison where they went in the North (just Derry and Belfast I think) was still pretty rough.
@dsd7004
6 жыл бұрын
but they are poorish cities. I'm sure there's equally nice parts in Ulster. I've never been but let's not be bias.
@DM-it1qf
6 жыл бұрын
dsd yeah they did mention that they weren’t shown the nicer parts, they only went through the North very briefly.
@stephensmith4480
5 жыл бұрын
There are good and bad parts of any city you can name and Belfast is no different. It is a great city with some really nice areas and it has come a long way in recent years. The people are warm and friendly and I just love the place.
@danielinnicg2114
5 жыл бұрын
Yea belfast here is the 2nd biggest city in lreland and most tourist want to do the peacewall mural tours so it will take you into working class areas but l feel ppl in these communitys including mine go out of there way to help americans and other tourist
@danielinnicg2114
5 жыл бұрын
We also have g.o.t tours and loads of beauty in the north even in our poverty parts im living proof of this (sry irish charm overload haha)
@bradcrossland9323
Жыл бұрын
This is a universal statement. I have and never will understand how a book about someone who isnt alive, can create so much divide that it breeds depise and hatred. When we bleed its red, when we breathe its oxygen, WE ARE THE SAME.
@youreapwhatyousow6057
Жыл бұрын
we are sinners. with sins. we cant go to heaven with those sins on our soul
@CH-zr7qr
4 жыл бұрын
Kevin seems like a good lad.
@scooby555wrx
4 жыл бұрын
I believe he was convicted in 2017 semtex revolver a few other things.
@johnsands6616
4 жыл бұрын
We went to Ireland in our camper and felt uneasy in carpark all of sudden the ruc turned up follow us he said he seemed angry do not not come this way that way he said newry I dont have a problem with the Catholics or protestants I respect them as people
@L4WNY..
4 жыл бұрын
That kid is like a middle aged man in a kids body!! 😝
@09weenic
4 жыл бұрын
L4WNY hopefully when that kid became an adult he was eventually taken out by my loyalist brothers 🇬🇧
@samlarsen5459
4 жыл бұрын
09weenic the man child was a loyalist
@richardgoldie5923
4 жыл бұрын
He was a grown man running about with the weeyins!!😂😂😂
@martinorourke7483
4 жыл бұрын
So much went on over the hundreds of years between both sides, one side was the ruler of the world , occupiying a small country , putting down its culture, language and any sign of their identity. Then as you can see the loyalist unionist side in this clip, they were planted to the northern part of Ireland to a province called Ulster, and they feel abused then, thankfully now in 2020 the way of life is much better.
@mattiasfaldt1725
4 жыл бұрын
sectarian violence can never be justified never what side
@thesaint8400
4 жыл бұрын
@Mark Kenny he's not missing the point at all. Nearly every comment here is on one side. Violence is violence.
@kiradelong9698
4 жыл бұрын
Peace rarely comes after decades of violence but usually causes a hunger for more violence.
@tonidavidson1808
4 жыл бұрын
I’m only 28 born in 91 saw the very last of the atrocities committed and I’m fascinated with the history of my home islands politics it breaks my heart watching these videos, imagine how terrifying it must have been for both sides of the line, there is no right in this fight but both sides are guilty of a colossal amount of wrong, god forgive us our trespasses... looks like Ireland north and south will end up in hell!
@paulmcevilly6712
5 жыл бұрын
two great books to read the shankhill butchers and bandit country
@user-br3bw7wr2l
4 жыл бұрын
Agreed, I’ve read both. I recommend The Dirty War by Martin Dillon and Provos, Loyalist and Brits (three books) by Peter Taylor.
@jaylee7150
4 жыл бұрын
Also fifty dead men walkingl Martin Mcgartland!
@josephninety6080
3 жыл бұрын
Shite books
@keithy507
4 жыл бұрын
Lol drinking steiger! (15.10) That brought back a few memories. Think it was 30p a can back then lol
@keithwhyte8583
4 жыл бұрын
Excellent I noticed the steiger tin too I always remember pissing more than I drank.
@keithy507
4 жыл бұрын
Keith Whyte those were the days lol 😎
@Bertiesghost
3 жыл бұрын
£1.37 for a packet of 10 Lambert and Butler!
@keyserni
4 жыл бұрын
Thank you for posting this. Excellent video quality.
@Timo8.2.
5 жыл бұрын
From 17.32 onwards the guy with mustache behind the speaker is thinking hurry tha fuck up my balls are freezing. Lol
@headmondronary2127
4 жыл бұрын
Why does it seem that no one can see the forest for the trees? The anger and violence seems to be keeping them all oppressed. Meanwhile the world keeps spinning and the rest of the world thinks its so long ago and interbreed that the purpose seems immature.
@brainbaskerville3341
5 ай бұрын
what a loveley brave family michelle is full of love and honest good luck all the best for the furture
@0mgskillz96
4 жыл бұрын
Wow, i never even heard of this war which was going on just a few decades ago and i gotta say its very interesting, and even though im a man of peace and i feel very bad for all the people who passed, especially the innocent civilians, i do respect the Irish for wanting to secede from their former colonizers, respect from Finland and RIP the fallen!
@behindstoney6520
2 жыл бұрын
It’s still going on
@GirlArmy21
3 жыл бұрын
Watching this from Canada. I don't understand the divide of the religions. I don't see it at all over here ......I had to look and see when this documentary was made...it seems like such an old way of life.
@behindstoney6520
2 жыл бұрын
Well it still goes on here and the same peacewalls are still up and higher in some parts
@gracefaithCHRISTscriptureGOD
2 жыл бұрын
Catholic means universal and is not talking about the church of rome and it's followers, Protestant means someone who stands up for God's Word and Truth of God's Word. The troubles in Northern Ireland UK are between republican s and loyalist s. 2500+ people have been shot since the good Friday agreement there has been failure to get peace in Northern Ireland UK. The hate on both sides still exists
@robertblake4006
3 жыл бұрын
Northern Ireland belogs to Ireland and must be united. Its occupied by brits for no reason...
@bubba842
3 жыл бұрын
I don't think you really understand bthe history. You should learn some.
@djholliday4413
3 жыл бұрын
I am an American of Irish descent. I have been learning a lot about the history of the conflict in Ireland. It is so very sad that people lived this way. What a nightmare. I pray for continued peace & reconciliation across Ireland, and that one day they may be fully united. We are all Children of the Almighty. All followers of Jesus Christ. Everyone deserves to live in peace & prosperity. God bless.
@Mr-pn2eh
2 жыл бұрын
I'm American and I want division.
@Tetleyb
3 жыл бұрын
I wonder what happened to those children. What are they doing now? How their lives went...
@erictucker2926
6 жыл бұрын
My grandfather was from Ireland, and I am coming to locate where his home town in Wexford, Ireland. He was from Mayo County.
@patrickodonnell9770
6 жыл бұрын
Eric Tucker wexford and mayo are two separate counties mate.they are 4 hours drive or 340kms apart
@erictucker2926
6 жыл бұрын
+patrick o donnell, please, I need your help. How do I go about locating my grate grandfather? I am residing the United States presently. Help me, man, you are my brethren.
@patrickodonnell9770
6 жыл бұрын
Have you tried ancestry.com? I believe you can give blood samples for DNA testing .
@patrickodonnell9770
6 жыл бұрын
What was his full name? I can find out which county he was from or the general area if I know the name.because wexford and mayo are not near each other
@erictucker2926
6 жыл бұрын
+patrick o donnell, My grandfather name was, Stanislaw Lehi Tucker. He was a map maker, and surveyor. He was with a group of architect hire by the British to work in West Africa in 1903. In the process, my father was born in 1920, unto the Aborigines African woman.
@SpaceBeatsUC
5 жыл бұрын
First clip duncairn Gardens walls still up gates don't open past 6pm lol
@rivco5008
4 жыл бұрын
My parents used to get into huge arguments about all this.
@paddymurphy6667
6 жыл бұрын
It will happen sooner or later Ireland will be free
@yannber1960
6 жыл бұрын
Sean o'sullavin Irlande will bee afro arabic islamic country like all europe
@paddymurphy6667
6 жыл бұрын
Yan yee talk shit lol
@chrisbelfast6662
5 жыл бұрын
@Eire 1916 course it will m8 Irish president looking to let 1 million immigrants in by 2040 even if that isn't true they are coming fast and thick so I wouldn't worry about all Ireland .
@chrisbelfast6662
5 жыл бұрын
@Eire 1916 well buddy I think you will when they are sucking every bit of welfare dry and it's spot the Irish man .
@paulmcdonough1093
5 жыл бұрын
not a chance ha ha and you know it
@chidon7465
4 жыл бұрын
Man I miss the 90's
@gailday3781
4 жыл бұрын
I'm feeling sad 😢 but I understand 😃🍀
@evansclan4eva49
3 жыл бұрын
Sad. As Martin Luther King said, The worst sin is teaching children to hate. There’s too much hate in this world for what little time we have. Ireland needs to be united ASAP and a strong personal union that we enjoy with the south should continue. NO BORDERS. Catholic or Protestant, the act of forgiveness is central to being a Christian. It’s time to practice what is preached.
@gailday3781
4 жыл бұрын
In the name of the father and the holy Ghost ❤️🍀
@NicolinaDanielle
3 жыл бұрын
Think you forgot one
@arthurp-er1yz
Жыл бұрын
For Christ's Sake man! You Irish are full of wonderful qualities. Strong wonderful qualities. Ever wonder, the possibilities of external manipulation? Meaning: to be tricked into"Civil Division", for easier control as a whole. Brotherhood, a love for EACHOTHER, need be, the dominant, unbreakable force.
@adeh503
4 жыл бұрын
Sports direct do well in Ireland by the looks of it 😀
@adamgillespie3393
4 жыл бұрын
You should specifically say Northern Ireland to make the distinction. This doesn't happen in the Republic
@natashaferran
3 жыл бұрын
I am from East Belfast and I am so extremely proud of that 🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧. Cant wait for the 11th and 12th this year to celebrate our history and culture.
@johnc6311
3 жыл бұрын
'Religious freedom wouldn't exist for protestants if we United'.....meanwhile the Irish Tricolour has the colour orange to represent irish protestants...what a stupid comment....
@88kjk75
4 жыл бұрын
I'm not from the UK or Ireland so could someone tell me regarding the identity issue, I know that the Catholics are compleatley ethnically Irish, but what about the Protestants, as far as I understand the Anglicans (Church of Ireland) are English, while the Presybiterians are Scottish (Ulster-Scotch), but do they identify as English and Scots or?
@LThaPunisha
4 жыл бұрын
Neither they Identify as British.
@amysands8925
2 жыл бұрын
@@LThaPunisha Ulster Scots.
@noka1979
5 жыл бұрын
We are all the same, one day we'll look back and say back when we followed dumb religions they made us fight each other
@istepheni
4 жыл бұрын
The troubles wasn't really about religion, it was more about republicans against loyalist. As most protestants were loyalist and most Catholics were republican.
@Blank-km4qr
3 жыл бұрын
@@istepheni yeah it seems to me as an outsider as more of an ethnic-nationalist conflict
@jasonobrien1989
2 жыл бұрын
All of Ireland needs the Gospel - that is what will bring a true peace.
@lisajohnson2699
4 жыл бұрын
It's great to see change in Ulster as long as you have Catholic and Protestants putting themselves in a block your going to have conflict. But if people see the other side as human beings we will be ok. I love when you hear Catholic people who don't work shouting about the British but they sign on what pays for food and live in the house what payed rent. Mostly people in the north want to be no part of any of the rubbish they have normal worries just like the mainland. Long may the peace continue. For everyone
@Jim54_
3 жыл бұрын
How Protestants and Catholics, two groups of people who worship the same god, same Jesus, and use the same bible, don’t get on, just baffles the mind
@KyleInOklahoma
3 жыл бұрын
It's nothing to do with religion. If you lived on a small island like ours & a foreign force came & moved the locals off, implanting their own people, would you not fight. It just happens that they are protestant. I grew up in the middle of this, now i live in Oklahoma. I come back each year to see my family & I've lots of protestant friends. Protestant vs Catholic is not exactly right. Most get on now the army are gone. It's nationilists vs loyalists. I know IRA members with protestant family members & Protestants, like Tony Blair who is Catholic.🤷♂️I know personally a fella named, "the bycycle bomber" who cycled around London planting bombs. His wife was protestant, now converted to Catholisism. 🙏📿💙
@Jim54_
3 жыл бұрын
@@KyleInOklahoma that is incorrect, half the Irish population is of Norman (old English) decent, and they have fought for Irish freedom since the 16th Century. Not to mention the Protestant freedom fighters such as the United Irishmen, and the Protestant parliamentarians like Henry Grattan who did the same. Being decedents of colonisers has nothing to do with it. Our nation has absorbed every immigrant group from the Vikings, to the Normans, and even Protestants. We are a mixture of many groups, as is every nation. National identity is an idea, and those who subscribe to it are patriots irregardless. A prime example of this would be Sir Roger Casement, a member of the Protestant Ascendancy and high ranking British Civil Servant, who turned his back on all that to be become an Irish patriot, and be executed because of his role in the 1916 Rising
@KyleInOklahoma
3 жыл бұрын
@@Jim54_ Regardless of descent, even 4 years ago 76% in the Republic were Catholic. In my comment, anyone reading it will get the sense I am talking about my experience growing up, learning Irish history which never mentioned religion but then we had religion 3 times per week at school. So I agree with what you said, other than what I'm not educated enough to speak on. I don't think that going by names, we can know that half the population of the whole island is Norman & we have no DNA database.🤷♂️. So what did I say that is incorrect?
@Mr-pn2eh
2 жыл бұрын
Catholics and Christians do not worship the same God. Catholics worship the pope while Christians worship God
@Mr-pn2eh
2 жыл бұрын
@@KyleInOklahoma I hope it starts having to do with religion.
@stephenbroderick748
6 жыл бұрын
Whats the song that olays at the start and end?
@mesaaa08
5 жыл бұрын
in the bleak midwinter
@tonybones2822
5 жыл бұрын
Could you have got away with being Athiest/Agnostic/Pagan back then? What about today?
@thomasweldon8333
5 жыл бұрын
A British soldier asked me one day was I a prodestant or a catholic. I told him I was an atheist. You’re probably wondering what difference it should make to a soldier. And it shouldn’t make a difference.He then asked me was I a prodtestant or a catholic atheist
@thesaint8400
4 жыл бұрын
It's not actually a religious conflict.
@jadorelesbts9510
5 жыл бұрын
HOLY CRAP MEH DAD AND GRANDA IS IN DIS
@aviationiceman9549
5 жыл бұрын
j'adore les bts mark ?
@brendadrumm9708
3 жыл бұрын
Yrs ago a prodestant family moved two doors away from me she was insane calling me and my family everything because we are Catholics I had to get the police she left the area she was a disgrace
@scott6926
3 жыл бұрын
Brenda not all prods are like that but
@annaconway313
2 жыл бұрын
Not everyone's like that. Some people are just filled with hatred, nothing to do with religion, nor affiliation.
@morganreyman7929
4 жыл бұрын
its was britains vietnam, irish fighting with themselves and not thinking about the big picture , and ju cant just let an army do its main goal( kill the enemy) because of the politicaly correct , ask the russian what they did with internal dissidents
@theevilneedle1285
4 жыл бұрын
nostalgic pictures of west Belfast. the world was a more innocent place back then in pre-internet/mobile phone times.
@bigmouthprick5852
4 жыл бұрын
Just ignore the undeclared war blowing up cars and shootouts in the streets, send away for rose-colored specs if you want to view the past through a filter.
@richardfinlayson1524
3 жыл бұрын
I reckon if you live some place, that's where your from.
@geoffedwards-tb4kp
4 жыл бұрын
I was walking through the city centre of Belfast in the 80s, pissed been out down an alley having a puss , turned round 2 armed guys masked with a revolver and a big old 45 colt automatic.one said "protestant or cathlic?" I almost panicked then said "neither I'm Jewish! "
@terranceaddison4599
4 жыл бұрын
What happened after that?
@neil2905
5 жыл бұрын
Jesus that Kevin lad is a ringer for James Dean.
@davidmccann2633
4 жыл бұрын
It is sole digraging being a roman Catholic in Northern ierland today,, I am not who I came to be,, if I stand besise an Irish man from the Republic of ierland he is an ierish man and I have to fight to be like him,,
@the_red_barron1002
5 жыл бұрын
Northern Ireland costs the British taxpayers Billions a year.
@the_red_barron1002
5 жыл бұрын
@Morgasm172 well it's not up to me is it you idiot.
@the_red_barron1002
4 жыл бұрын
@Vladimir maybe it should be put to a vote.
@stephenholmes1036
3 ай бұрын
Nobody wants to remember the disappeared! Jean McConville etc
@PrvoBijeloPolje
4 жыл бұрын
Brits out
@LThaPunisha
4 жыл бұрын
Is that Name Bosnian or Croatian by any chance?
@PrvoBijeloPolje
4 жыл бұрын
@@LThaPunisha Croatian, not Bosnian!
@o-o2399
3 жыл бұрын
@@PrvoBijeloPolje no you then
@cristerowarrior1450
5 жыл бұрын
The British army and the RUC worked hand in hand with the UDA and The UVF
@alex-sv8ru
5 жыл бұрын
Cristero Warrior you're right. Many British soldiers were UVF members themselves, or actually collaborated with the Loyalist paramilitaries. The soldiers felt that they had to make common cause with the UVF/UDA because of their common enemy: the IRA.
@alanbeggs2114
5 жыл бұрын
Cristero warrior. I hope you realise the tic and brits worked hand and glove with the republican Scum movement as well
@cristerowarrior1450
5 жыл бұрын
With the likes of Stakeknifer and other sociopaths and eventually the turncoats Jerry Adams and Martin Mcguinness but not the regular Provo members. The RUC never moonlighted as IRA like they did with the UVF and UDA
@claire-christmas-august73
2 жыл бұрын
me mum’s 🇬🇧 😁 me dad’s 🇮🇪 😄 ive got two siblings born in 🇿🇦 😁 i’m 1st generation 🇦🇺 😃 mixed bag of lollies we be 😂 i’m here to learn about both sides of the coin. thanks for sharing! throughly enjoyed. cheers 😀 ✌🏻🇦🇺☮️ #humanity * can someone take the time to explain to me - why are people walking backwards? ta muchly 👍🏻
@brianhalley5225
5 жыл бұрын
The men and women who died in the Troubles I vow as one Irish man that your deaths were not in vain and for the Peace ye have won I will do what I can as one man to better the lives of my brothers and sisters in the North in your memory. To "the laughter of our children" Ar deis de go raibh a anam.
@eddiefitzgerald5198
4 жыл бұрын
Street Violence in the six Counties of Northern Ireland.
@gailday3781
4 жыл бұрын
❤️🍀
@williamhoskins7818
4 жыл бұрын
INSANE.
@howey935
5 жыл бұрын
Imagine how different the world would be if people hadn’t decided to believe in magic men in the sky. I imagine the world would be a lot more peaceful place with less things to fight about. In the last 3400 years only 268 of them have been war free and just over 40% of those were because of religion
@stephanechretien333
5 жыл бұрын
Was it really about religion, I believe it was more about conquest, acquisition, money, power, control. Religious differences just made it easier to declare them as enemies, or savages. Convincing their countries that it was in the name of saving them from damnation. Blaming religion is not seeing the whole picture.
@Timo8.2.
4 жыл бұрын
The troubles wasn’t about religion. The nationalist Catholics wanted United ireland and freedom and the loyalist Protestants wanted union with uk to continue.
@belfast5133
3 жыл бұрын
the young fellow Brendan had to walk nearly 1 and a half miles to throw stones.
@ObamaFromKenya
3 жыл бұрын
Brendan would be 24 yrs old today...wonder if he’s still throwing stones🤔🤔
@danrobinson572
3 жыл бұрын
@@ObamaFromKenya good question
@johanakermyr1437
3 жыл бұрын
Why do I love NI/North of Ireland ❓
@chartreusemoon
3 жыл бұрын
Not a great place to live in if I'm being honest
@josephninety6080
3 жыл бұрын
It's a kip
@catlikepizzagaming8280
2 жыл бұрын
I was in Northern Ireland in 2001 for about 4 days, had a gun pointed at me twice
@behindstoney6520
2 жыл бұрын
Not surprised because it’s still going on over here
@ProfileP246
3 жыл бұрын
Are they going to take the EU on now that they own Southern Ireland?
@timmolloy7574
2 жыл бұрын
Where?
@delanodegenie6970
4 жыл бұрын
Never been to Northern Ireland and have no urge to ever go but whenever you see footage of the place it always looks grey and bleak as fuck...
@pm3157
4 жыл бұрын
Dean Harrison it really does seem depressing every time I’ve been
@geoffedwards-tb4kp
4 жыл бұрын
Politics is all good but the communities had to accept the fact they both existed. What's it like now in the North? More mixing or a silent divide?
@nobbyclark6591
6 жыл бұрын
Multiculturalism doesn't work right northern Ireland.
@dsd7004
4 жыл бұрын
that " cats in the cradle " was an advert? ? a guy shooting a pub up! what was the message? as they didn't say
@birmanets
4 жыл бұрын
@dsd Yep it was an advert on tv! Its on youtube in full. Search cats in cradle northern Ireland. Its message was to go with information to the cops if you had any... to stop the tit-for-tat killing that was going on. At the time I didn't think it anything out of the ordinary, I was a teenager lol. Looks a bit mad now. Every night my parents turned on the news..... A man has been shot dead in Belfast...
@lunasky1819
5 жыл бұрын
I dont think there will ever be peace in Ireland. Yes some things have changed for the better.but to much has happened in the past it is hard to forgive when your loved ones have been hurt or killed.this hatered is passed on to children etc it will never end.all children should feel safe in their own country.
@7ElevenAlphaCentauri
5 жыл бұрын
I was in Belfast not too long ago and there is peace between Catholics and Protestants and I felt safe walking around the city. But there are still fences around houses and buildings and the regular police drive armored vehicles. Im personally against a united Ireland because the protestants would wage war and many will die. It's fine the way it is and you can cross between NI and Ireland no problem and no checks.
@philipswain4122
4 жыл бұрын
There likely is no god. Grow up
@Kitiwake
4 жыл бұрын
What's that got to do with anything?
@philipswain4122
4 жыл бұрын
Pat Aherne my invisible celestial dictator is better than your invisible celestial dictator. And so because of that, my people will hate your people. For generations.
@sandrarock.5007
4 ай бұрын
The poor people are now here suffering for what was done year's ago with these killer's
@Trdat
5 жыл бұрын
What is the difference between, ISIS wanting a separate state and Protestants wanting a separate state? Your either Irish or your not. If your not then you don't belong there, if you are it a united Ireland. I am struggling to understand the Loyalists claims it doesn't make sense.
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