Dopamine detox reminds me of the paleo diet. Both take pretty basic, self-evidently good advice (eat more whole foods and cut down processed carbs, try to look at porn and instagram less), but they wrap it up in a pseudoscientific package pushed by influencers using words they don't really understand. The whole dopamine thing is riding the current wave of massive public "awareness" of mental illness, just as Paleo came on the heels of a general explosion in mainstream fitness/wellness trends. Both depend on extremely dubious misinterpretations and exaggerations of otherwise legitimate principles. But in the end, both are basically good advice if you just generally adhere to their core prescriptions while ignoring their BS rationales and the cults surrounding them.
@TheZatzman
Жыл бұрын
That's it exactly LAK!
@JohnRed
Жыл бұрын
No one forces people to watch terrible videos with someone trying to milk a simple concept, you have to go out of your way to consume that kind of content. Everything is like this. People can understand that you should drink water, but if you look you will find dedicated water channels that create 10 hour long video essays about water full of pseudo science as they scrape the barrel for more information on water. They'll try to sell you water products and repackage their tap water to sell you for 300 dollars. Every single topic is like this. It's not something that is inherent to dopamine detox or paleo diet. There's good and bad information everywhere, there's grifters everywhere and grifters will use all information available to milk as much content as possible from a topic. It's up to you to use your common sense and basic research to sift through bullshit and see what's accurate.
@rheawelsh4142
Жыл бұрын
I'd argue dopamine detoxing is more like a 30 day diet, this general attitude of "do me once in a while and your whole life will be fixed". It's a challenge designed to sound just hard enough to be plausible while also not requiring any true long term commitment because all of the bad habits you've formed over your life are supposed to magically go away on their own, and marketed to exactly the kind of person who'd be susceptible to this kind of thinking and want it to be true
@pennyforyourthots
Жыл бұрын
Yes and no. Paleos emphasis on stuff like raw vegetables often means less available nutrients for the body, so while it's healthier than average, it's not really healthy. And the same manner, I'd be willing to bet that dopamine detox and probably does minimize some harmful obsessive behaviors, but it also minimizes healthy stress relieving behaviors.
@theredgoblin562
Жыл бұрын
So they are BS, cults, pseudoscientific, dubious, but it's still pretry good advice on the surface??? Where is the bad lmao? Fuck is wrong w you people 😂
@flytrapYTP
Жыл бұрын
Being addicted to dopamine is like being hungry for a fork.
@realah3001
Жыл бұрын
Mmm fork
@marshallsweatherhiking1820
Жыл бұрын
Yea. You’re addicted to the behavior itself, not the dopamine. If anything overindulgence reduces dopamine response. Being too accustomed to entertainment creates boredom. Not getting the same dopamine hit you used to from pretty much anything.
@frecklenuckle4450
Жыл бұрын
@@trinitylovesyou6868 depends on what you're eating
@Firebreaf
Жыл бұрын
@@trinitylovesyou6868 I guess, but then you're still eating a fork.
@solidbhatt
Жыл бұрын
Hmm I need some moreee- snake
@chrissym4130
Жыл бұрын
I was diagnosed with ADHD less than a year ago, and this video is so helpful. People make it sound like getting rid of everything that makes life worth living will make you actually do what you have been avoiding and boy do I have news for them. Thanks for all your effort!
@tiryaclearsong421
Жыл бұрын
I have ADHD and I was a child in a poor area before the internet and home computers became wide spread. I had horrible ADHD even when these distractions didn't exist. I still have it now. I work in a place where I often can't have my phone on me. I have watched a dust mote float to the ground for fifteen minutes because I didn't want to work yet. Like distractions from the internet can make this worse but the call is coming from inside the house. Before the internet I would write stories or draw instead of doing my homework. Now I sometimes "plan my day" for the first hour I'm at work and get 10 glasses of water while I hype up. The actionable steps of not using my phone for periods of time do help me break phone dependence more but medication is what's really amazing for focus and productivity.
@ryanoneal8480
Жыл бұрын
same! weirdly, the medicine that makes my body produce/uptake dopamine better is much more useful lol
@theredgoblin562
Жыл бұрын
@@tiryaclearsong421yall talk about the most common issues like interplanetary diseases. Most people have diffuclty with orginization and motivation, only I write my schedule down without rattling my brain with amphetamines. These medications are as permanent as trt if you stay on them.
@theredgoblin562
Жыл бұрын
Dawg just try out cold showers and working out before litteral meth analogs. You people are so god damn lazy🤦♂️
@eg4441
Жыл бұрын
@@theredgoblin56220 years of life spent trying to do exactly that to no avail, no matter how hard i tried. guess what works? stimulant medication! i'd rather be happy and better at achieving things than miserable everyday just because someone like you doesn't understand what it's like
@cloverplayssnakegame
2 жыл бұрын
I want to come back and comment this after taking some time to think: As someone with ADHD i think there is a conversation to be had about how social media companies and companies that make sugary foods are willing to exploit my need for stimulus to make money. But that conversation needs to be well researched and nuanced. And I think a lot of the accountability for this problem is put on us to log off and “control ourselves” instead of regulating these companies that are exploiting my brain chemistry
@TheZatzman
2 жыл бұрын
Oh yeah for sure. Definitely agree with you on that point. I felt as though that conversation was outside of the video scope (as I was focused on the science, pop culture application, and personal development aspects of “dopamine” or “dopamine detoxing”). I do recognize the limitations of trying to “do it all by yourself” or relying on “personal discipline/willpower/etc” (which is why I put disclaimers at the end). There has to be some kind of regulation or safeguards in place at a societal level. As to what that looks like or how it’s achieved … I don’t know. Appreciate your input McKenna!
@cloverplayssnakegame
2 жыл бұрын
@@TheZatzman thank you for all of the research you did on this video you deserve all of the views and engagement in the world keep up the good work
@TheZatzman
2 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much! Glad you enjoyed the video.
@theideaofevil
2 жыл бұрын
Absolutely agree 1000% percent! The idea that each of us, as individuals, are supposed to just resist all these habit forming temptations in the age of unregulated neuromarketing is such a scam. Add a dash of executive dysfunction, ADHD, or other neuro-atypicality? It's hell. Companies have entire R&D departments staffed with PhDs to figure out how to more effectively exploit our brains. Strictly controlling my personal environment is about all I can do to try and help myself, with the world outside being actively predatory. I actually tried the a dopamine detox before I received my ADHD diagnosis and treatment, and all the detox did was associate everything that brought me joy in life with stress and anxiety. I still sometimes have to force myself to do things I enjoy, to break that cycle if I notice it recurring.
@TheZatzman
2 жыл бұрын
@@theideaofevil Well said, Kron! There's another commenter in the comment section who brought up neurodivergence and I explained why I didn't go deeper in that area. Trying to follow a strict dopamine detox with an undiagnosed attention disorder sounds terrible! I'm happy you got a proper diagnosis and treatment. Hope things have gotten better for you since then.
@sssydneyfree
2 жыл бұрын
BRUH! All these edits and funny reactions on top of all the research!?!? Amazing, 10/10.
@TheZatzman
2 жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it Freeman!
@comicstripvo6654
2 жыл бұрын
Jesus Christ Superstar, Sailor Moon, Japanese 80 pop, Avril Lavigne, "SPACE!', Kirby, just to name a few... I'm absolutely overwhelmed with joy ... Or as the bropamine peddlers would say... Really "gave me a dopamine response"* * This a gross oversimplification and misinformation, intentionally or otherwise, ans should not be fgicwn credence
@anniealexander9911
Жыл бұрын
Just found this channel. Fantastic
@animaltaglits
Жыл бұрын
@@anniealexander9911same
@eqwerewrqwerqre
Жыл бұрын
Honestly i think it's a little ironic for a video about dopamine and simulation addiction to be so jam packed with zoomer bait quick edits and more jokes than actual information. Maybe it's just the parts i saw but this is literally unwatchable for me. I'm very interested in the science but i simply cannot sit through continuous nonsequitors which are preventing any actual thread of thought from being established by constantly flashing random stimulus in your face. I'm sure lots of people like this, but it's very much not for me lmao. I feel like I'm having a seizure
@TheOtherBoobJustDropped
Жыл бұрын
I find the idea of a dopamine detox really interesting considering my worst ADHD executive dysfunction days are basically what they’re suggesting. I don’t get a lot of stimulation, I don’t eat much, I don’t go on my phone, I don’t talk to people, I don’t experience joy or excitement, I just sit there and do nothing. It’s so odd to me that they’re talking about that kind of thing as a cure for something, especially lacking motivation. Because lemme tell you, those days fucking suck and they certainly don’t motivate me to do anything other than hate myself for 25 hours.
@dark0ssx
Жыл бұрын
Well yeah the first day detoxing from anything is painful
@shochre6497
Жыл бұрын
I could spend days like that in a ocd loop, it really wasn't making it better. I HAD to fill my days in order to become a functional adult again. So i feel you
@djengefrett
Жыл бұрын
@@dark0ssxexcept a person with adhd isn’t “detoxing” from anything lmao
@SineN0mine3
Жыл бұрын
It's definitely not a bad idea to try dopamine detoxing. As part of a larger self care plan including excersize and diet, it's likely to have positive effects. The reasoning behind dopemine detoxes is obviously oversimplified, but the premise of avoiding pleasurable activities for a day to focus on self care can't do anything other than help. Once you have made the time to do this ever week or two you can schedule that time to do specific self care tasks which you didn't have time or motivation for during the week. Meditation is the most effective tool for mental health in my experience, so I'm always recommending it to people looking for ideas on how to improve. Even if you don't have a diagnosed mental health condition, there are always improvements that can be made.
@Eisofice
Жыл бұрын
It's not exactly a dopamine detox?? It's more of a boredom rinse, or at the very least a 'get dopamine from more traditionally healthy activities'
@ChiotVulgaire
Жыл бұрын
As someone with ADHD, hearing people talk about wanting to deprive themselves of Dopamine makes me feel like a man dying of thirst watching people complain that they're addicted to water.
@DLWebb6245
10 ай бұрын
As another with ADHD, one of the things behind ADHD is that we're dopamine deficient which causes us to be the way we are.
@Ivebeenbleak
Жыл бұрын
These "dopamine detox" bros are so fascinating. They definitely seem like an off-shoot of the "hustle grind" social media phenomenon, whilst also trying real damn hard to sound enlightened and like they've "escaped the matrix". All the shit they say about people being "like rats" and that we're all "addicted" to dopamine, and how they know the method to connect with reality, in some sense. It just kind of comes across a lil desperate/pretentious
@TheZatzman
Жыл бұрын
yeah it definitely can. a more charitable reading is that they are just trying to help people form better habits and live happier lives - but the combinations with the "hustle grind productivity" stuff makes it iffy like you said.
@squid1712
Жыл бұрын
If you're not horrifically crippled by parkinson's disease, can you even call yourself a real dopamine detoxer? I don't think so.
@Daniel-rw9um
Жыл бұрын
Dopamine detox mfs when they are given haloperidol and they get extrapyramidal symptoms instead of entering a meditative and productive state
@CrisStan
Жыл бұрын
*_This is such a hidden gem for the amount of effort put into it; this needs to blow up now!_*
@TheZatzman
Жыл бұрын
thank you CrisStan! glad you enjoyed it!
@granudisimo
Жыл бұрын
@@TheZatzmanSo many dopamine micro doses via audiovisual stimuli per minute...
@massiveidiot77
Жыл бұрын
It looks like thats exactly whats happening right now!
@deechonada
Жыл бұрын
As someone with ADHD, doing a dopamine detox would quite literally put me into a spiral of depression
@elpepe-wx7oj
Жыл бұрын
truee lmao
@sakuranovaryan9261
Жыл бұрын
It can help sometimes. But really it's better to teach a more sustainable way to get things done
@EliTheGleason
Жыл бұрын
@@sakuranovaryan9261 Yeah that's where I'm at
@SuperFpsRage
Жыл бұрын
real
@deechonada
Жыл бұрын
@alexnayebi1974 Not necessarily, my mother has it and struggled throughout her childhood and adulthood. Likewise im not as young as you think i am, i grew up while the internet was a privilege to have, so i didnt have access to it in the way we do now until about 2011. I struggled before that. And its not necessarily just the internet that exacerbates it, its the education system too especially if it lacks vocational education
@nestvrgl3846
2 жыл бұрын
I can't believe I just spent 2 hours watching a video on something I didn't know existed nor did I care about. It was brilliant! Well done, love your content and sense of humor
@lincolnripley3099
2 жыл бұрын
I cannot imagine the amount of man-hours that went into this video. Brilliant work!! I am a psychology researcher who studies critical validity, which essentially just means I look at measurements in psychology and say “yeah, but does this do what we say it does?” I loved seeing someone who isn’t an academic ask the same questions and look for answers in the way that I do, as I feel we need more people to have this kind of criticism of research. I thoroughly enjoyed this video!!
@TheZatzman
2 жыл бұрын
Thanks, Lincoln! Yeah, it was a lot of work 😅 ... looking into the research itself and whether or not people were interpreting it "appropriately" (ie: what were they sourcing? what is being said by the papers they are citing? what are the limitations of the research?) is challenging - especially in a field I'm not familiar with. That's why I defer to the experts (neuroscientists, etc). I did my undergraduate in Philosophy, so I'm used to some degree of academic jargon. The methodology of critical thinking and healthy skepticism sounds similar to what you do (Psychology is sort of the "spiritual cousin" to Philosophy😄) Glad you enjoyed the video!
@tomisaacson2762
Жыл бұрын
@@TheZatzmanAs a pathologist with an interest in philosophy of medicine and biology, I was seriously impressed with the way you handled the topic. One of my biggest pet peeves is neuromania: the way people misunderstand and misuse concepts from neuroscience and psychology. Category errors everywhere!
@DigitalGamersX
Жыл бұрын
Looks like youtube is recommending your video to others now, gotta say the pacing on this video is so tight; the perfect amount of comedy, scientific explanations, and personal opinions/reflections. I have a problem with a lot of modern youtube videos where it feels like they wanna shove 20 memes in your face per second but while you still do some meme-y stuff now and then, it feels very organic and not forced and I really appreciate that. Keep up the good work, gonna dive into your channel some more, and hope the KZitem Algorithimic Gods bless you!
@TheZatzman
Жыл бұрын
tysm DigitalGamerX! yeah i like to keep things fresh with a meme or two, but not make it overbearing. pacing and rhythm are important when making the video, and it's something im trying to get better at. appreciate the blessings and the kind words ❤️
@mikem.s.1183
Жыл бұрын
@@TheZatzman Don't take it wrongly. The constant injection of memes gets in the way of the meat of the video, in my opinion. You've done your research and easily dismantled these influencers who talk about things they do not fully understand. Lifting the foot off the pedal of memes would be an improvement. At any rate, good video.
@APootisBirb
Жыл бұрын
How to live your best life according to these people : Work. That's it. Don't do anything fun. Heck, don't do anything that isn't working.
@funkentanz
Жыл бұрын
Welcome to Burn Out after that.
@APootisBirb
Жыл бұрын
@@funkentanz But the grind tho 🥺
@psy-fi64
Жыл бұрын
@@APootisBirbHUSTLEEEEE MAAAANNIIAAAAAA
@diegorincon4673
Жыл бұрын
🎵 Work Work Work baby, misery not dopamine🎵
@bibsp3556
Жыл бұрын
Funny how it always seems to come back to how we should be working harder.
@REDI____
Жыл бұрын
It's amazing how much a bit of critical thinking and basic scientific fact checking helps, cause I've had friends do this shit and I knew I'd be chilling in Google scholar for the next 2 weeks trying to debunk idiots, so thanks for condensing all the bullshit for me bro. Edit: I just realized this while washing the dishes, isn't low levels of dopamine just fucking depression?
@TheZatzman
Жыл бұрын
Yeah, it's amazing what a tiny bit of fact checking can do. (Not sure about the research into depression as it relates to dopamine). Glad you enjoyed the video RED!
@ohyeahbobboganbrother2549
Жыл бұрын
Low levels of serotonin is generally what causes depression iirc.
@aspenshadow7920
Жыл бұрын
Could also cause parkinson's
@cartoonhanks1708
Жыл бұрын
@@ohyeahbobboganbrother2549 Been debunked. It's just differences in Neurostructural stuff now. Serotonin theory has been completely debunked now.
@ctrlaltshift
Жыл бұрын
@@ohyeahbobboganbrother2549 It's more complicated than this. Unfortunately, a chemical can't independently explain a pattern of human behavior. Wait, I feel like I've heard this somewhere...
@approachingetterath9959
Жыл бұрын
i really like your vibe and humor. down to earth, self-aware, able to do research and see nuances and debunk points without bashing anyone. this was a very enjoyable video.
@TheZatzman
Жыл бұрын
glad you enjoyed the video Etterath!
@TheReginaldBarris
2 жыл бұрын
Bravo! Found your videos from am F.D. Signafier shout out, and I agree: your videos are so well done, it's crazy to me that you dont have more heat yet. I'll definitely be turning in moving forward, and and sending positive vibes your way for the algorithm 😉
@TheZatzman
2 жыл бұрын
Thanks a ton Reginald!
@stxrstruck6755
Жыл бұрын
Having ADHD makes us have a dopamine deficiency compared to neurotypical people. So it may look like we're addicted to dopamine, but we're really trying to replenish our lack of stimulation to help us do things. That's why so many of us have to multitask with TV shows and music every single minute of the day to do things. I can not do anything without listening to music because it keeps me motivated, especially when im outside. A dopamine detox would kill me.
@ryanoneal8480
Жыл бұрын
adhd is so much more complicated than simply a dopamine definiency. latest research indicates normal dopamine levels, but extra receptors. the science behind the disorder is very much in its infancy.
@stxrstruck6755
Жыл бұрын
@ryanoneal8480 Thanks for sharing.
@marceloaguirree
Жыл бұрын
Idk i also and a lot of people tend to do that, but it actually makes me feel worse later on. I think that by walking outside and seeing things i am getting the dopamine i need. Whenever i dont listen to music i feel that urge but then i just keep walking and it goes away.
@stxrstruck6755
Жыл бұрын
@@marceloaguirree Glad that works for you but I personally need music. I have autism too so it also is a sorta substitute for noise canceling headphones which I don't have unfortunately-
@theredgoblin562
Жыл бұрын
You are feeding your addiction while complaining about how permenent it is. That has to reflect in your behaviour as a weak and unacomplished person
@oryx_85
2 жыл бұрын
Haha as someone studying anatomy and physiology for nursing school I got flash backs to A&P 1 when you pulled up the crash course video and mentioned action potentials. I'm in A&P 2 now and my last lecture my professor said we are going back into action potentials for the heart section and joked that we will never escape them. Great video! I also got put onto your stuff recently and have really enjoyed your content.
@TheZatzman
2 жыл бұрын
There is no escape from the action potentials... haha Thanks, Oryx! Good luck with nursing school👍
@ItzJuanG
Жыл бұрын
The fact this video has less than 100k is a crime. It is incredible how well you communicated a complex topic you admit you don't have a grasp on, and even then your commitment to making it as digestible and accurate is obvious. Great video
@kei.mp_
2 жыл бұрын
I can’t believe this video has only around 400 views and only about 30 comments?!?! This was so well researched and was super engaging. Keep doing shit like this man I know you’ll get big :,)
@TheZatzman
2 жыл бұрын
Thanks a lot Kei! Glad you enjoyed it! I'll try to bring the same energy to whatever I do💪
@KristofskiKabuki
Жыл бұрын
I have a very boring admin/data entry job and I normally watch videos while I'm doing it so I don't go crazy but this is so good and so dense in both info and fun that I'm saving it for when I can give it my full attention
@TheZatzman
Жыл бұрын
glad you're enjoying it Chris! it's cool, watch it when you can, appreciate ya
@MrMikkyn
Жыл бұрын
I’ve been reading neuroscience, so this video will be good for me. Also, that stuff on social media about “dopamine fasting” is unbelievably so unscientific that is is borderline metaphorical. Dopamine is needed for movement, acetylcholine for contraction of muscles. Dopamine abnormalities are involved with Parkinson’s, schizophrenia, adhd. People with Parkinson’s are very low in dopamine, and can be prescribed L-Dopa, which has a series of side affects. Dopamine is manufactured in the brain by breaking down the amino acid tyrosine. Tyrosine needs to be produced from another amino acid called phenylalanine. Dopamine is responsible for anticipation of reward. I won’t even begin to continue, because I am still learning. Finished Behave by Sapolsky, Brain and Behaviour by Garrett and Hogh, Brain Energy by Palmer, Brain Food by Mosconi. Now reading ‘fundamentals of neurology’ by Henrich Mumenthaler. Its not a simple neurotransmitter as every seems to portray on social media. I always make sure to practice discernment with bad science, pop science, and pseudoscience. Its just never satisfying as REAL science. Start with the cells, DNA, neurons, ions, then bring dopamine into the picture. We need to understand the whole system, not one chemical. Serotonin happy, dopamine reward, blablablabla. No. It is time to be educated.
@TheZatzman
Жыл бұрын
Yes. The brain and body are very complicated. I think pop science is useful for simplifying concepts and making them accessible to broader audiences, but like you said it's good to practice discernment because the science doesn't stop there
@kaylon7996
Жыл бұрын
NO WAY I’m reading behave by sapolsky right now lmao
@thebignacho
Жыл бұрын
For further research on the subject, I recommend reading Boogie Bear 1-5. They explain the importance of dopamine in the brain in very simple terms that are important to understand in modern life
@tarantulasareterfs
Жыл бұрын
I truly wish there were resourses where i can learn the complicated truth, without having to know medical term before that ever. Pop-science but more nuance i guess, its possible
@JamilJarvis
2 жыл бұрын
This was SOOO well presented & researched holy shit, moderation really is KEY also thanks for taking one for the team to learn the intricacies of rat bonking
@TheZatzman
2 жыл бұрын
Thanks Jamil! Moderation is major 🔑 ... and yes ... the rat studies .... 😑
@JamilJarvis
2 жыл бұрын
@@TheZatzman HAHA don't worry it was worth it, def a video imma keep coming back to, ties in so well with the direction I'm taking my channel in
@TheZatzman
2 жыл бұрын
@@JamilJarvis Alright cool. Good luck👍
@Itotallymadethisup
Жыл бұрын
Fun fact: the reward prediction error system is also why I feel negatively whenever someone is nice to me. I was trained to expect people to treat me poorly, so when people treat me nicely, it makes me sad and confused. So if you compliment me and I make a face instead of saying thank you, that's probably why.
@dio8451
Жыл бұрын
Who asked
@SolidSteak01
Жыл бұрын
@@dio8451Unfortunately I care + I asked + smile about it + stay glad + W + mald seeth cope less + not basic + skill + rational + you fell up + no audacity + triggeredn’t + you got a life + ok :) + not cringe + touched grass ✅ + funny + laughed + grammar good + based + your good + not reported + GG 👍 + you’re real + big WIN + girls glad + complex + skill ability + positive ratio + on the pedestal + I asked, thanks for answering + bluepilled + VERY based + you’re a unique and special human being (insert positive stereotype) + so funny I laughed a lot + grammar is spotless + go inside and rest + you need a break from success + get even better + praised + GG! can we have rematch? + we’ll ask you for advice + clapping and applause + lots of cash + good ratio again + 100% best ratio + stay confident keep going champ + good person + gave you a shoutout + doing swell + stay free + freer than air + wow cool + big_smile + happy cuz ur good + lol + relevant + nice + i’m almost jealous + go ahead, brag about it, you deserve to + your victory + I care + have a nice day + sounds good to me ;) + glhf + remarkable
@Hyperdonic2
Жыл бұрын
@@dio8451 You asked.
@boijorzee
Жыл бұрын
I get so tired hearing people go on and on about how you have to improve yourself. Sure if you want to do that go right ahead. But don't feel guilty if you are comfortable with your current situation. Life will generally be challenging enough for most people. Just dealing with everyday stresses without getting completely burned out is a feat in itself.
@KiwiBeeArt
Жыл бұрын
I cant believe your channel isn't bigger, this video essay was really good, well researched and well edited! Keep up the good work!
@TheZatzman
Жыл бұрын
tysm Kiwi!
@AnHeC
Жыл бұрын
Yeah, i had the exact same thought. The quality is absolutely top notch. This is the kind of content that KZitem should promote more.
@clownfromclowntown
Жыл бұрын
I’m only 44 minutes in but I just have to say…wow. This is an insanely high quality video essay, from your editing to all your sources and clips, I’m just absolutely amazed by how well produced you made this. You’re doing an awesome job dude, can’t wait to see more! This channel’s gonna blow up I just know it
@JohnJohnson-ri2ou
2 жыл бұрын
What a great, well put video! The amount of memes raised my dopamine level to the sky. Just kidding, hehe. Ok, so I don't know how I found it, but few years ago KZitem recommended me Andrew's channel, and I remember being very agitated after watching his 'dopamine theory'. The overall tone and the list of symptoms he mentioned was very convinving since I was already in that mental state, where I was depressed, had no motivation and low levels of energy. But I just got sucked out with my life and pandemic, like everybody else. Today I stumbled on his video again, and boy, I got some 'I will teach you how to live your life, but first you need to buy my self-improvement course' vibes. Also he used a lot of stock videos to illustrate his ideas which is absolutely fine, but in context of his videos It feeled like lazy writing and lack of creativity. I decided to search some critique on this topic and your video was simply the best. I was not prepared for this, 2 hours seemed like a reasonably long period of time, but I did not regret watching the whole video. Thank you for your research, you definitely should continue to make videos! Editing is top notch, and the MEMES, the memes was the best part. Can't imagine how much time you spend on this essay. Anyway, it was a pleasure to find your little channel. Best of luck!
@TheZatzman
2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the reply John. I appreciate it! This took me about two months of research, and four months to shoot and edit (editing on a decade old Macbook will do that ....). Was inspired by Hbomberguy, who does a lot of long-form video essay style content that involves research, facts, data, sources, etc - His video on vaccines is probably more relevant to what's going on in the world, rather than a bunch of self help/personal development influencers using "dopamine" ... but hey I had fun. I don't think these types of influencers are necessarily bad people deliberately peddling misinformation - lots of people deal with low motivation, low energy, etc (especially because we're living in stressful times) and some advice can be useful depending on your circumstances. But once you sort of get the "gist" their advice, there isn't really any more "information" that can be useful to you - but because it's their business, they have to keep pumping out more content. Hence the "lack of creativity" - there's only so many ways to say the same things over and over. Glad you enjoyed it! Glad you enjoyed the memes! Comments like yours makes this worthwhile and definitely encourages me to make more videos (maybe not as long as this one, but we'll see)
@Afriendd
Жыл бұрын
They’ve assigned dopamine access as a moral failing of an individual rather than their modern circumstances
@Yvesangelist
2 жыл бұрын
Ah yes, it's the silly little brain chemical that makes everything bad and not the glaring systemic failure in countless avenues of life that tend to favour those with privilege. Whatever chemical all of this "theory" was spurning in me was causing me 10d6 psychic damage. Cutting out any joy out of your life seems like the last thing you'd want to do. Awesomely well done video though! There's so much that could be said about all of it, including the ways in which algorithms and the desire to find an answer to something frustrating leads to finding easy answers to find some peace over the vastly more depressing truth, on top of that no answer is ever one size fit all (ADHD, anyone?) That, or one should ignore all advice given and, uh, engage in self-pleasure excessively on a motorcycle while eating two cakes or something. Regardless, keep up the good work! Don't let the algorithm get you down.
@TheZatzman
2 жыл бұрын
There are shades of grey and nuance to many things. Truth doesn't have to always be depressing - it many ways it can be liberating. Thanks for the nice comment, Yves. Algorithms be algorithmining, but I don't let it get me down. The focus is on making better videos. I find that more fulfilling.
@WSBM14
2 жыл бұрын
Your style got me to watch a 2 hour video about a topic I don't care about. Subscribed
@TheZatzman
2 жыл бұрын
Thanks Lenstraat! Glad you enjoyed it😀
@hardcore_jew
2 жыл бұрын
1) You are funny 2) You are smart 3) You have a talent 4) Your videos are very beneficial Thank you for your researches! Finally someone has destroyed these ''dopamine clowns'' xd
@TheZatzman
2 жыл бұрын
Thanks! Appreciate it :D
@bloodkip9462
Жыл бұрын
You're giving him too much dopamine god damn it he'll OD.
@EvTheFlickFan
11 ай бұрын
@@bloodkip9462 heh, that’s a funny po- *stops existing*
@fluffbytepresents
2 жыл бұрын
hope this video blows up. was gonna watch ur most recent video since it was the first time u popped up in our feed but then decided to go thru ur older stuff since most folks only take a youtuber's first video into account when judging their work and this just seemed so interesting. watched it all in one go at 2 am! glad i did. didnt think we could even do a dopamine detox bc...we hav ADHD, so didnt even look into it. really appreciate u doing this, esp as someones who struggle with addiction. didnt even know there was cirticisim of the addiction model! relaxes us to know dopeamine detox isnt a valid methodology to improve ones self even if there are things one can do when it comes to managing overstimulation, which we do stuggle with. funny that u debunked it less than halfway thru the video, but that only made it better in my mind. hope making this wasnt too stressful. really looking forward to watching more of ur vids. this was good entergagatainment. proud o u -Thornbyte
@TheZatzman
2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the comment Fluffy! The only really stressful part of making the video is that I'm editing on my ancient 2011 Macbook - which makes the process much slower than it needs to be 😑 ... I was actually surprised how something like "Addiction" could be so complicated. While I understand why some influencers use the term in their marketing, I just wanted to bring a bit of nuance to the discussion. I know I'm just a random internet guy, but best of luck to you in that regard. Glad you enjoyed the video!
@finnthefannibal
Жыл бұрын
Excellent video. Edit: I'm on a hbomberguy detox because I'm waiting for the next one and this was my fix As someone who is neurodivergent and almost got denied diagnosis because of misconseptions surrounding phones and addictions, you hit the nail when it comes to all these interconnected topics. There's a lot of systems and environmental factors involved that lead to these problems and you did a good job at covering the many nuances the best you could. For many their environment and society has failed to meet their needs and the needs of their local community(support system). Imo it's important to avoid putting all the responsibilty to solve it on individuals vs institutions and social structures. Another edit because I sense it's open to more discussion: for neurodivergent folks it's important to look at environment, overwhelm, routine, trauma, overstimulation, understimulation, alexythimia(eg not realizing you're hungry), boredom, burnout and masking
@TheZatzman
Жыл бұрын
yes for sure! I didn't really cover the topic of neurodivergence in the video (though many have commented about it), but yeah there are so many factors. glad you enjoyed the video finn! (I was drawing on hbomb inspiration while making this - so thanks for that!)
@THEcamobackpack
Жыл бұрын
I can't believe this video doesn't have over a million views. Best thing I've watched on KZitem in months
@TheZatzman
Жыл бұрын
glad you enjoyed it!
@odothedoll2738
Жыл бұрын
I’ve been thinking this for a while. Yes, social media and video games and ?orn are time wasters and can be addictive but this response to it feels ironically extremely chronically online. Some people genuinely have their lives ruined but it’s not nearly as many as people make it out to be. The internet loves making itself seem more important then it is.
@TheZatzman
Жыл бұрын
Yes, that is a very astute observation. (Thanks for the clarification from before)
@ireniic
Жыл бұрын
Such a great point! it's like they've forgetten that the truly addictive things, like drugs, gambling, sex, etc actually can ruin lives and relationships in unimaginable ways. sure, some of the other things can be bad but we don't have to make huge leaps and say oh social media is JUST as bad as drugs. like no, just talk about the individual ways social media can be bad on its own without equating it to something that is actually bad? like two things can be bad on different scales and that's okay y'all. it doesn't make the lesser bad thing somehow not bad in its own regard.
@theletters9623
Жыл бұрын
I love the incorporation of ytp-style clips, you're an incredibly talented video editor
@theiginator
2 жыл бұрын
Found your channel through the FD Signifier shoutout, and have watched each one of your videos in reverse order. Gotta say, you knock it out of the park on this one. This is my favorite of them all, with "Your Life Doesn't End at 30" coming in second. Can't believe this seems to be only your third video. Love your style or brand or whatever you want to call it. I hope your channel continues to grow and get more recognition.
@Stonehawk
Жыл бұрын
This was the best video i have seen in a long time. I'm not trying to exaggerate. I seriously was riveted the entire time. I'm going to need to re-watch it. You did an amazing job trying to present all of this with its due course of nuance and diligence. More diligence than almost *every other content creator you referenced.* I'm incredibly impressed and I'll be paying attention. I even hit the bell. Thank you for all of this mind-numbing, soul-crushing work. I wish I could buy you lunch.
@TheZatzman
Жыл бұрын
tysm stonehawk! much appreciated! i will make my lunch tomorrow in your honor
@kaemincha
Жыл бұрын
i literally cannot believe that this video doesn't have millions of views, you knocked this out of the park dude
@Mark-xw5yt
Жыл бұрын
Nofap people always say "you're tricking your brain into thinking you have multiple women and are already winning, so it stops trying" I wonder how they would react to "you're tricking your brain into thinking you are about to be a father and therefore must work hard to provide for your family" The stuff is so stupid
@flamshiz
Жыл бұрын
this editing must have taken forever. it's so funny even in the subtleties. I love it
@TheZatzman
Жыл бұрын
glad you enjoy it flamshiz! this took 4 months to edit.
@brewzonic
Жыл бұрын
I didn’t think that I was going to watch this video in one sitting, but I glad I did. Amazing work! And also I can’t even imagine how much energy and time you spent to create this video… 10/10 🎉 Subbed!
@TheZatzman
Жыл бұрын
glad you enjoyed it!
@equosition1242
Жыл бұрын
This must have taken forever to edit! Your sense of humour, use of clips and music and presentation style - not to mention the knowledge provided... You deserve all the views! I hope the fact that the algorithm has recommended this 2 years later means you're about to receive the subscribers you deserve.
@TheZatzman
Жыл бұрын
tysm equosition! appreciate it!
@Daniel-rw9um
Жыл бұрын
Maybe they should just take a first generation antipsychotic ("dopamine blocker") to aid in their 'fast'. Oh wait, it's not that simple and people who take don't suddenly get more motivated and happy!
@kirinp1088
Жыл бұрын
How could you even put so many "memes" in 2 HOURS video. God tier editing. And I really appreciate you clarify the complexity of brains function and neurotransmitter.
@cain1089
Жыл бұрын
This video has introduced me to another awesome world commentary/analysis youtuber....truly such a well spoken and written video about the super reductive "hur dur dopamine addiction is ruining us" take some people are starting to adopt. I love how you point out the differences between true addictions, poor coping mechanisms or just bad habits that we have as a species. I think a lot of this type of thinking is just a result of the increasingly stimulating world around us. There's just so much more for us to engage with nowadays and its so much easier than it used to be, and people want to find the one thing that will ease their dissatisfaction with life, in this case it was just pseudoscience about "dopamine detoxes" that's really just poor self help advice.
@existentialbreadroll
2 жыл бұрын
FD Signifier brought me to your channel and I am grateful. Your videos are so comprehensive yet so easy to watch. And I absolutely love the edits! Edit after watching the entire video - I understand it wasn't in the scope of the video here but I feel like there could be a very relevant and much needed part 2 on how all this stuff relates to neurodivergence and disability. It is usually left out of important conversations in general, and it seems like that's the kind of thing you might be interested in changing. Totally understand if you don't feel equipped to do so tho. I hope at the very least you explore the area so it can inform future videos. Having said all that, I still loved the video!
@TheZatzman
2 жыл бұрын
Thanks so much, Akira! Yeah, I left out neurodivergence and disability because it wasn't in my wheelhouse. I believe I came across the topic while researching, although I can't remember many of the details since the bulk of the research was done over a year ago (and is not on my mind). Things like how dopamine (+other NT's) operates in the brains of people with ADHD or depression and the types of medication they use to treat it. I might have broached the subject more if I saw more people claiming that a dopamine detox could treat issues arising from neurodivergence specifically - but their claims didn't go into that area (from what I saw), so neither did I. The channel I mentioned at the end and a source I used for the video (Neuro Transmissions) would probably be better suited for something like this. They have many videos on the neuroscience of autism/ADHD/depression/etc. If I can think of a way to tackle the issue along those lines, or if something inspires me in the future, I could re-explore the topic as you said.
@existentialbreadroll
2 жыл бұрын
@@TheZatzman so nice of you to take the time to respond this way :) I get what you're saying. And I did take note of the channels you mentioned, I will be checking them out! For no reason other than to just to let you know where I was coming from I'll say - I get that the videos you talked about didn't really mention disabilities or neurodivergence but I was thinking on the lines of how that's precisely the issue. That those who might experience dopamine and such very differently because of their neurodivergence might be even more at risk of harm for following such "advice" on detoxing. I totally understand that there's always going to be other angles to your essays that your viewers would like to see and you absolutely do not have to feel pressured to cater to everyone but I just wanted to leave this here because seeing the creativity and humour that you bring to your work just makes me selfishly want to see the ideas I'm interested in through your lens :) I'll settle for hopefully planting a thought in my comment so anyone reading who's interested might do their own research on it. :)
@TheZatzman
2 жыл бұрын
@@existentialbreadroll There's another commentator (Kron) who describes exactly what you're getting at. They tried doing a dopamine detox before getting their ADHD diagnosis and treatment - and it ... was not a good time for them. Thank you so much for your kind and thoughtful words :) (I'd like to add, there was a podcast I listened to and took notes on - not sure if I used it in the video or sources - called "First Person Science" kzitem.info which is a bunch of grad students talking about various topics - might be interesting ... that and Neuro Transmissions - many of the other channels suggested at the end were more "personal development-y" than "Science-y")
@anniealexander9911
Жыл бұрын
Never has a subdiscipline been summed up SO accurately as "something something evolutionary psychology". It "can mean whatever you want it to be". While neuroscience has warped the staffing of psychology departments more (probably the easiest route to a permanent academic job in UK psychology departments), evolutionary psychology is probably the most embarrassing. The butt hole of psychology
@vendrim1962
Жыл бұрын
This channel will blow up... I've seen channels with this little subscribers and this high of a production value go through the roof before. They stayes at 5-20k subs for 1-2 years, and just suddenly got 400k over night in a sense. TLDR: I was here, before this guy was cool/popular!
@MrZacharykgwin
2 жыл бұрын
Fun fact after we orgasm prolactin is released which has an inhibitory effect on dopamine contribiting to loss in sexual interest. Also I think you meant endogenous opioids you called it androgynous lol. Also neurotransmitters are involved in conscious proccess too not just subconscious proccess and there are 4 subtypes of dopamine receptors D 1 -4 .
@TheZatzman
2 жыл бұрын
Haha yeah I might have mispronounced that. Thanks! And yes prolactin does do that!
@MrZacharykgwin
2 жыл бұрын
@@TheZatzman Thanks for replying. I forgot to mention I thoroughly enjoyed your video, it was well researched and entertaining and funny as well. I do hope you upload more videos in the future. I really enjoy this type of non cynical debunking. and the channels you featured have plenty of content to pick from lol.
@ThePiones
Жыл бұрын
How the hell does one get such a database of relevant memes for every sentence. Insane man, good stuff
@TheZatzman
Жыл бұрын
i emptied out the meme vault + bored during lockdown. glad you enjoyed it!
@mandymari23
Жыл бұрын
So dopamine is going to be released regardless of how. We're always going to gravitate towards actions that are in one way or another rewarding. Very enlightening video! Much love for your work! I'll be watching out for your next vid, thanks Zatzman ❤️
@Mapache095
Жыл бұрын
Me and my adhd who puts me into chronic dopamine deficiency are side eyeing all of ‘em dopamine detox = productivity dudes
@rheawelsh4142
Жыл бұрын
It's so weird how people are now trying to market these small epiphanies as full on lifestyle brand, like some guy put his phone down for a second, realized he now had to do other things with his time instead of being on his phone, and now people are making entire careers off of how to put your phone down more gooder
@politiclpanties
Жыл бұрын
mwah amazing video, i feel like so many of the dopamine detox videos use scare tactics about you wasting you’re life and just make people feel awful about normal behaviours. Your videos is amazing at debunking them whilst being super interesting!
@The1991102
Жыл бұрын
Oh my my.. One of the most insightful and informative videos on KZitem! Dopamine detox never made sense to me because I believe there are other factors that can influence social media use, as well as porn (i.e., trying to dissociate as a result of stress, socialization with regard to sex, etc). The editing and the jokes made my day too. Thanks for the video.
@TheZatzman
Жыл бұрын
glad you enjoyed it!
@brycewagoner666
Жыл бұрын
How did I find this a year after it came out. This video is phenomenal. And I never comment on videos lol
@TheZatzman
Жыл бұрын
glad you enjoyed it bryce and thanks for the comment!
@TomWonderful
Жыл бұрын
Thanks for putting all this effort into research for this video, and thanks for citing sources. It's incredible that you managed to include so much information while still making the video digestible.
@SuitedPup
Жыл бұрын
Saving this video to watch during my dopamine fast
@guydunn8259
2 жыл бұрын
I know I’m late to the party. But for a while I knew about dopamine detox and the pseudoscience. But I could never figure out a way to debunk it. I just didn’t know enough, neuroscience is complicated. Thanks for this video, thanks for putting in all this research and work. Just to prove what is actually happening.
@TheZatzman
2 жыл бұрын
Thanks Guy! Glad you enjoyed it!
@kaufmanat1
Жыл бұрын
They pepper in some actual good information.... But then they just take it to an extreme. I studied neuroscience in graduate school. I know enough about neurotransmitters to know that I don't know sh*t. I knew a lot of this stuff was sketchy because I knew the brain was WAY more complicated than what was being described in the videos. It's kind of like listening to someone explain that our electrical grid uses AC, but computers use direct current, so hooking your computer up to DC power doubles the speed of your computer.... You don't need to be a computer scientist to know that's nonsense, even though you can't explain all the complexities of how an operating system works....
@ericklopes4046
Жыл бұрын
That research rabbit hole is so relatable goddammit. I couldn't find anything that expresses it better than your edit.
@TheZatzman
Жыл бұрын
YUPPPPPPPPP the rabbit hole goes deep .....
@PomPrincess
Жыл бұрын
I came to say what others have said probably hundreds of times. Your edits and your way communicating topics with realistic humor is fantastic. I couldn't stop smiling the whole time. Oh no your video is dopamine lol Definitely gonna subscribe.❤
@TheZatzman
Жыл бұрын
it's cool! i appreciate ya all the same! glad you enjoyed the vid pom and thanks for the sub!
@masterbuilder4735
2 жыл бұрын
That's was informative AND very entertaining! And long, but in a good way. Hope you'll get much more traction, your content really deserves more views
@Romanticoutlaw
Жыл бұрын
I've always found the "porn always escalating" argument a little goofy. Sure, when I let myself explore my interests more openly and honestly, I discovered I had kinks that I wasn't aware of. But it's not like I ever got bored or "numb" to those kinks, even if I discovered others too. It'd be like not liking chocolate ice cream anymore because you discovered you like neopolitan
@BlisaBLisa
Жыл бұрын
i dont think its that common but it does happen... ive certainly seen it in true crime lmao
@tomisaacson2762
Жыл бұрын
Yeah, that's been my experience. I feel like this idea comes from somebody that's already guilty about wacking off becoming disturbed by their own kinks.
@vylbird8014
Жыл бұрын
@@BlisaBLisa True Crime accounts might not be the most reliable sources - they all exaggerate and sensationalize. People want an evil criminal to hate, and celebrate their suffering upon capture.
@fieuline2536
Жыл бұрын
Watched this when FD gave you a boost around a year ago. It came back in my recommendeds and watche it again and damn, this really is a masterpiece
@eachauraoruh7745
2 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for this masterpiece, wow. I really appreciate your level headed takes and the way you organized this in such an approachable way, it’s artfully comprehensive but still focused and doesn’t jump to conclusions. Thank you
@stormwarrior5362
Жыл бұрын
My expectations coming into this video was nervousness. I was kinda worried that I was just gonna become more anxious about my life and feel awful because I can’t control my life. I just realized this is what most of the dopamine detox guys are doing all be it unintentionally. As you said they do have good advice, but it feels like the one thing they all do is get the viewer uncertainty about themself. Thank you for this video. I don’t need to over stress about my life, but I still have to work on it. It’s all about balance!
@methanesulfonic
Жыл бұрын
I feel like this guy doesnt want to use memes and ADHD riddled clips but He *had* to because thats how the meta in this platform is. Still a great vid btw
@PROdotes
Жыл бұрын
dang it... here I am, listening to this video while waiting for my next dopamine hit in d4... and then suddenly a DBZ abridged reference out of nowhere... You got me, good sir... you hit my dopamine receptors :P
@TheZatzman
Жыл бұрын
nailllllllll
@RoseDragoness
Жыл бұрын
I enjoy this video, it is both insightful and funny. My problem wasn't with dopamine detox anyway, I already cringe first time I heard them, maybe because computer and being online are how I make money, friendship, pursue my hobbies, and have fun. But this give me a reminder on cautionary warning of pseudoscientific influencers, they are not just in mlm and alt-meds.
@the_nerd_showtv5562
Жыл бұрын
I remember watching some of these motivational video and I remember growing to know that most lf what them was not so accurate. You man have done such a greay job, both for quality and quantity of the content, it's mind blowing you're under 10.000 subscribers
@TheZatzman
2 жыл бұрын
Comment down below to get more dopamine (TIMESTAMPS are in the description )
@martinnystedt3519
Жыл бұрын
I've been addicted to this video for over two hours now.
@busterfly131
2 жыл бұрын
You have quickly become a new favorite creator on here. Must be all the dopamine 🙃 but seriously, very consistently impressive and funny stuff. Respect.
@MinjaTeh
Жыл бұрын
I love everything about your comedy, references, and music choices. New favorite KZitemr, thanks for the content :)
@TheZatzman
Жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoy it minja!
@theonlybilge
Жыл бұрын
Your My -Harem- Hero Academia posters just reminded me of a tiktok post where a person, entirely unironically, started it with the text "TW/CW // MHA/BNHA" I am not joking.
@bofad6074
Жыл бұрын
finding small channels that make unbelievably good videos is my addiction, Great video!
@nostalgicsapphic8450
Жыл бұрын
i think the one thing about this that always gets me is when these people equate “reading books” to inherently healthy behavior because reading can be just as much as a detriment to someone as youtube can be dhdhdh im an avid reader and i hate when they posture reading like that
@Just_Kumoki
Жыл бұрын
I feel like I'm gonna need at least a week of Dopamine fasting to fully detox after watching the montage on the intro of this video.
@Spartan117xxxxxx
Жыл бұрын
The editing was so top notch. Thank you so much for all the time you put into this just for that aspect of the video
@nobodythisisstupid4888
Жыл бұрын
Oh my god, a basic level explanation of dopamine that isn’t painful for me to listen to. I got really interested in the pharmacology of psychoactive drugs about 10 years ago (I was in middle school and heard Joe Rogan talk about psychedelics on a Rooster Tooth podcast episode) and I have since gotten a double major in psychology and natural sciences (mainly biology and chemistry) with my focus on neuropharmacology along with studying various neurotransmitter systems. Needless to say, this makes it difficult to listen to a lot of people talk about things like dopamine or serotonin, especially when they are using it to sell a product or lifestyle in a way that is not supported by actual research done on the subject. It’s a shame because a lot of science is so much more fascinating than the woo woo and pop science interpretations would lead you to believe. Also, I appreciate the correct use of the term negative reinforcer at 43:37. A lot of people get confused in the definitions of positive/negative and reinforcement/punishment when it comes to behavioral psychology.
@sydbarrett5693
Жыл бұрын
Double major in psychology? How would that work… I assume one in arts, one in sciences?
@nobodythisisstupid4888
Жыл бұрын
@@sydbarrett5693 nah it was a BS in Psychology and Natural Sciences. My school had a program called Natural Sciences which was highly flexible in terms of what courses you took. You mainly just had to do first year physics, first year chem, a few math classes (at or above college algebra or introductory stats), a semester killing introductory biology course (there was a 6 credit combined lab and lecture for biology, chemistry, and natural science majors that was much more rigorous than the option for non majors), and then you need to hit a fairly large amount of credits of self chosen courses (in math, chemistry, physics, biology, or geology) with a lot of those credits being upper division. I originally wanted to do Biology or Chemistry for my second major since I planned on doing a lot of extra courses in those subjects outside my psych degree, but I calculated the credits for that and found I met the requirement for the Natural Science major without having to take extra courses that I wasn’t interested in taking. I chose to focus my time on subjects like organic and biochemistry, neurophysiology, cell biology, genetics, and some other courses in math, biology, and chemistry. There isn’t a lot of neuroscience focused courses in my school besides a few bio and psych courses, so I instead just geared all my class research projects and papers to neuroscience topics, mainly molecular neuroscience and neuropharmacology.
@phat-kid
Жыл бұрын
i appreciate the constant hits of dopamine from your masterful editing and style. i guess i'm old fashioned, i like to get my dopamine from weed.
@Jimmukun_
2 жыл бұрын
Great video, I found out about your channel from FD signifier. Really well edited and researched, the only chapter I disagreed with was your take on social media. Boiling the mass societal dependence on social media down to "don't take it too seriously, social media is silly haha" is a bit naive. I do agree that corporations aren't in a grand conspiracy to brainwash it's users but I think thr rewiring peoples brains negatively and creating horrible dependancy is a byproduct of their hypercapitalist intelligent algorithms to keep users online. There was that big Facebook whistleblower awhile back who talked about the company's scary internal findings on their products effect on users. Idk I'm not the most educated on the issue, but I think social media and smartphones and their effects are gonna be understood better in coming decades
@TheZatzman
2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, that's fair Jimmu. Social media has become an integral part of modern society, and while I do stress here and in other videos ("How To Stop Wasting Time Online") to practice mindfulness, moderation, and IRL things - I do recognize that there are limitations to that. If that section came off as being a bit naive, I apologize - the video was focused on responding to those proposing a "dopamine detox" (self-help phenomenon) as a solution to these problems. What's posted on social media and how it influences people can be very serious if you are, for instance, from a marginalized community, and bad actors use said platforms to spread misinformation and bigotry about your community. It would be silly of me to say, "just log off and go outside", when what's posted online could have real-world ramifications on their personhood. There are other examples, but this is just one that springs to mind. There are layers to this issue and it's difficult to articulate all the nuance sometimes. It's good that people are bringing awareness to how these products function through their intelligent algorithms and what incentivizes companies to design them that way (ie: profits). Thanks for your perspective Jimmu 😀
@Jimmukun_
2 жыл бұрын
@@TheZatzman Woah, you replied! Thanks for the response, I've been watching a lot of your vids the past few days and really loving them. I understand that this was a small portion of the video that was aside from its main focus, and totally get your perspective. Personal responsibility in practicing moderation in regards to social media is definitely a factor, but I think that its somewhat akin to saying that individuals must do their part to cut down their carbon emissions and environmental impact. Yes, individual actions and changing your relationship to consumption is necessary, but the onus lies on institutional change to the system that necessitates this unhealthy relationship. People, especially kids and young people are so immersed in a system that near requires constantly being plugged into social media because its where friends talk , bonds are made, and communities connect. Its where social value is held, careers are made, ideas are spread, and its functionally more 'real' than reality for a lot of people today. This can have upsides, like empowering marginalized communities as you point out, but the corporations that hold this power are either intentionally or not molding a system that is at some level incompatible with our hominid brains and fundamentally eroding our society in horrifying ways we are just beginning to see. Regardless of all that, really love your channel! Your editing style and humor is top notch. It reminds me of Emplemon a bit if they were more personable and not an edgelord. Anyways, really great stuff, you have something really special with this channel!
@glowinggrenade
Жыл бұрын
Going from the biological approach to understand our behaviour is like trying to understand minecraft by looking at the circutry of the computer.
@BlisaBLisa
Жыл бұрын
i agree w that whole part about the novelty wearing off and ur brain just telling u youve had enough and I find myself getting frustrated with the way most people talk about social media but at the same time i realize thats not most people. i have adhd and im really grateful that it manifests as seeking stimulation from rly engaging stuff and not attention vortexes like tiktok which i usually get bored of quickly, but tiktok and other intentionally addictive platforms are something a LOT of people with adhd really struggle with bc they prey on this vulnerability that all people but especially those with adhd have. tech and social media companies do design everything to be as addictive as possible, i dont think anyone is exaggerating when talking abt that it really is just that insidious. they use your data to target you and use ai to make their algorithm as effective in being addictive as possible down to the tiniest detail. the stuff about colors that guy was saying isnt made up its a pretty common thing for any company, not just social media, to use color psychology to market themselves. making your notifications red makes you more compelled to click on them bc its an alarming color that gets your attention quickly. blue is a calm relaxing color so platforms that use a lot of it (like twitter) make it easier for you to stay on longer. it really depends on the social media like facebook and twitter are terrible about this but reddit and tumblr are pretty good, and its worrying how less and less platforms like that remain.
@TheZatzman
Жыл бұрын
Yeah, there's another comment thread from earlier with another person with ADHD bringing up similar points.
@BlisaBLisa
Жыл бұрын
it is really unfortunate how hard it is to distinguish between real science and religious shaming when it comes to porn addiction. ive seen people say that porn addiction isnt real bc its all just religious shaming and i dont think thats true. people can have food addictions its not so unreasonable to think they could be addicted to porn or sex. but religious people with an agenda are taking advantage of the uncertainty of the science surrounding it at the moment and try to legitamize their beliefs with whatever science does exist. (sorry for spamming lol its a good vid)
@TheZatzman
Жыл бұрын
It's ok Lisa. I appreciate your input!
@hope5718
Жыл бұрын
this video did not give me enough dopamine clicking off thanks bye. all jokes aside as a psych student i loved this, super funny and informative, u have gained a new subscriber >:)
@TheREDHEADREDEMPTION
Жыл бұрын
your style of editing scratches my brain like one of those metal head scratchy things. It's like you're visualising how my brain thinks *difficult thought* *meme* *thought* *meme via word association* *sarcasm* *detour* *bring it back to the topic with bulletpointing and sub-bulletpointing* *thought* *tired reciting of a bad joke, not because its funny but because it needs to get out* Also "we've never experienced hate on that kind of a level ever" followed by a jewish smashcut had me hollering
@lorscarbonferrite6964
Жыл бұрын
The whole "brain is binary" snippet got me a lot more irrational angry than it should have. Because no it isn't, and no it isn't. Obviously, the brain is a complicated electrochemical system, so the signals it sends are much more complicated than zeros and ones. But also, the decision-making process is nowhere near as simple as "brain goes for dopamine", and it's inner workings are still fairly arcane and unpredictable. Human behavior on a macro scale might be predictable and understood to a decent degree, but how the brain constructs that behavior isn't. I think a good analogy is to think of it like a computer. Most people understand how it works on a macro level, and can predict it's behavior at that scale. For instance, I know that if I a certain button, my computer will do certain things. I can predict that behavior. But how many people understand how a computer works on a deeper scale? If you've ever built your own computer, you'll understand that certain components in certain locations have particular functions; much in the same way that it's understood that certain parts of the brain have particular functions. Eg. RAM stores the working memory of a computer, the brain stem controls basic life functions. But each of those components are themselves made up of many smaller components. Sure, you might know what a graphics card or a RAM stick is or does, but do you know the functions and purpose of every ic on either of them? And this is still without going into even finer detail, like the functions of each transistor, resistor, capacitor, etc. The ways that each neuron functions might be simple enough to understand, much like it's easy to understand how a transistor or resistor works, but how these pieces fit into a more complex whole is an entirely different animal. It is of course worth noting one of the greatest issues with my analogy: the fact that computers are constructs designed by other people. Even with all of the complexity of a computer, we have documentation on what things do, and we know that things will generally be built and laid out in a human-comprehensible way. We have absolutely no such saving grace when it comes to the brain.
@TheZatzman
Жыл бұрын
i like your analogy and yeah, the brain is heckin' complicated!
@kwisatzhaderach4069
Жыл бұрын
I always got the message as to switch more of your dopamine from social media and technology to keeping better family and friend ties as those are more important
@bnichoo
10 ай бұрын
All your videos resonate with me on a really deep level man! I'm slowly getting more comfortable in my own skin as I'm getting older, and stopping to think of everything in terms of "this HAS to be fixed if I want to be a NORMAL person" despite me be normally functioning this entire time, and I admit I fell down this whole detox thing thinking it would solve anything, it only caused more anxiety. Keep it up man, your content is GOLD, and your style of delivery resonates with my fried neurons.
@burdenblossom9484
Жыл бұрын
this fast and witty editing style is way too stimulating and is fucking with my dopamine!
@massiveidiot77
Жыл бұрын
what the hell how did I randomly find such a well thought out video
@Cloudsurfer69
2 жыл бұрын
keep coming back to watch this! sereiously soooooo well made - keep at it buddy, channel is growing pretty quick!!
@TheZatzman
2 жыл бұрын
Thanks, Cloud-surfer! Appreciate it :D
@gusty7153
Жыл бұрын
there was a fun study where they left a mousewheel in the wilderness and a trailcam watching. after a while there was a bunch of wild rodent regularly playing with the wheel
@Pain-420x69
Жыл бұрын
I actually wouldve paid attention in class if you were the teacher. Thanks for the amazing video
@MissMegaLoathe
Жыл бұрын
As someone with ADHD, the idea of a dopamine detox is terrifying... i already don't process it correctly as it is, don't tell me that watching youtube, playing with a fidget toy, and playing video games all at the same time is an addiction, i'm just trying to focus
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