This comment will probably get lost in between the other comments but: Install the cirrus logic card back in it's a order of magnitude faster than the trident From Dos go onto the Windows directory and type "setup" then install the graphics drives it makes a huge difference Install dynamic drive overlay software (from Phil's computer labs website) and set the drive to mode 1 (from within the bios) to make it bootable , you will have to reinstall Dos and windows but it's a walk in the park
@michaeldcullen
6 жыл бұрын
The second Cirrus card he installed in the machine (the GD5422, which replaced the GD5401 with the dodgy port) is a solid card for a DX4, although obviously there are better options out there. Druaga1, if you see this, the second Cirrus card CAN support 1024x768 @ 256 colors, as it's a native SVGA card. I hope to see some 1024x768 action in the next vid ;-)
@foureye7058
6 жыл бұрын
It's stuff like this that makes me wish I had been old enough to start learning computers in the early 1990's rather than the early 2000's... I still got into it before most people yeah, but I missed so much of the early glory days...
@buttguy
6 жыл бұрын
yes, the SETUP from dos is way easier when you set it at a resolution that doesnt work. Or for any other number of things. Recovered from a virus that killed my Windows 3.11 install by running setup a few times and it worked its way through what it needed to replaced off the install disks. Windows 3.x is actually a pretty smart OS in that regard...
@DaVince21
6 жыл бұрын
I really hope that by now, druaga1 is aware of the DOS-based setup tool instead of messing about in INI files.
@WedgeStratos
6 жыл бұрын
Who else thinks that floppy disk holder at 15:35 is absolutely rad?
@IanC14
6 жыл бұрын
Yeah it made me grin when i saw it!
@johnkolk
6 жыл бұрын
That has got to be the coolest floppy disk holder I’ve ever seen. I need to get one of those somewhere.
@DOORZ2012
6 жыл бұрын
Hey, Ian. I don't know if you'll read this but if you do, I wanted to say thanks for doing the kinds of videos you do. Not many people grab two technologies that should never work together and find some bass-ackwards, convoluted way of getting it to work. Keep this shit up man, you keep a lot of us going whether you know it or not.
@raven4k998
3 жыл бұрын
we got no video cause the videos not plugged in I love that
@DxDeksor
6 жыл бұрын
Get a DX4-100 Overdrive chip, that model will run with 5V Also, get some SRAM chips for the ram to speed it up a little bit ^^
@Mr.Morden
6 жыл бұрын
What about IBM Blue Lightnings, I remember those things everywhere.
@IanC14
6 жыл бұрын
He could also try to find a Voltage converter, but im guessing they would be pretty rare now
Christian Lucatino yeah but those are probably hard to install on a motherboard like this as they are made for things like Arduino not old computers, I assume back in the day there where specific products made to let you run 3v CPU in 5V motherboard. Also 800mah is very little power so I think those are logic level converters not meant to power any real hardware
@swordandshieldtechrepair
6 жыл бұрын
You may be right.
@UncleAwesomeRetro
6 жыл бұрын
Very cool to capture video on a 486 :D I remember my first IBM Flatbed scanner. Just getting real images in my computer was magic back then. It was like the computer was more connected to it's outside world.
@MattExzy
6 жыл бұрын
Yep, that RAM goes in Macs. I remember triumphantly upgrading my LC II as a kid from 4MB to 6MB with some RAM sticks I scored off a friend at school. I was GOD... "well, it's closer to 32MB, like the new iMac..." I would tell myself... eek. Later I managed to get a Quadra 660AV, it had 48MB - so MORE than the iMac 333MHz base. BANGIN'.
@xan1242
6 жыл бұрын
According to an FCC listing and on Wikipedia, for the specific video card you're using, the max is 1280x1024i "CL-GD5422 - Enhanced version of the 5420 (32-bit internal memory interface, 15/16/24 bit RAMDAC. An ISA video card carrying this chipset offered 1280×1024 interlaced max resolution"
@trewlove
6 жыл бұрын
I like that "i.n.i." pronunciation; we always called it "eenee"...
@ajjr1228
6 жыл бұрын
Gotta put a math co-processor in there, you'll be amazed how much it helps out.
@armanelgtron4533
6 жыл бұрын
Despite the name, it basically just takes over the functions of the primary processor.
@ChartreuseKitsune
6 жыл бұрын
A 486DX processor already has the math co-processor integrated, that second socket would be used if you had a 486SX processor (which is a 486 with the FPU disabled), and that second socket would take a 487 (which is just a 486DX that disables the main 486).
@user-pi5xz5je4y
3 жыл бұрын
@@ChartreuseKitsune Correct. I had a 486SX and wanted a math coprocessor or a 486DX instead.
@nate5862
6 жыл бұрын
druaga1 + actual research??? not gonna ask, just gonna wait for the 4/20 video :)
@raven4k998
3 жыл бұрын
did he research whether or not the motherboard could do 3.3 volt for the cpu through a jumper setting? or did he just assume that it could only do 5 volt? there is something to cook your noodle a bit
@Draco04
6 жыл бұрын
How dare you move parts without me watching Druaga. Microcheating. 🙂
@jonmahashintina
6 жыл бұрын
This is great work, I hope the Lego guys see this and hire you for their next Lego movie.
@daniluvsuall
6 жыл бұрын
That is the coolest stacking floppy disk carrier.
@DxDeksor
6 жыл бұрын
I just noticed, isn't the song you're singing lego racer's main menu theme ? ^^
@achaycock
6 жыл бұрын
As it happens I have been doing a fair bit of research lately with respect to ISA video cards that can support higher resolutions. I have a 386SX which I have owned for a great many years that I have been giving some love to. Recently, I bought a 1MB Tseng ET4000AX which is amongst the fastest DOS cards (I missed out on an ET4000/w32 which would have been even better). You can get decent ISA cards that support SVGA resolutions, and you are correct in your assumption that an SVGA card is what you should get for higher resolutions - simply because even frame buffer cards such as the Tseng offer a measure of acceleration at those resolutions. Colour depth affects performance with these cards more than resolution or bus type (Vesa Local or PCI) as does the CPU (a 486 DX2 66 is pretty good though). I found adding an 80387SX improved Windows 3.11 performance by a fair margin, though your DX2 has the FPU built in, so that much is moot. A Tseng 4000/w32 is probably the best card under DOS, and good under Windows. For Windows, a Cirrus Logic CL-GD5426 is likely to be amongst the absolute best cards as these have hardware BiTBLT engines for Windows acceleration. The Trident cards have a poor reputation and I would try and get the Cirrus card back to life if you can.
@nacabaro3737
6 жыл бұрын
TOMORROW IS 4/20 DRUAGA1 SPECIAL PLS
@Redspl
6 жыл бұрын
ProTip: instead of touching WIN.INI, use C:/WINDOWS/SETUP - It's a cool text-mode equivalent to the GUI hardware config
@SocialSpit
6 жыл бұрын
That's pretty much what my first PC looked like. I've got a TON of ram just like that. It goes with an AWE32 soundfont audio card.
@MidnightMechanic
6 жыл бұрын
Technology has come so far that my channel trailer was recorded using a $9 dash cam set at VGA resolution. In fact, most of my videos that are gonna be uploaded will be in that format using that camera, doesn't even break a sweat recording in VGA, HD 1080p is what makes it start dropping frames heavily.
@toddstewart9070
5 жыл бұрын
I remember my old 386sx/25 would play 320x240 video files back with no problem even at fullscreen. I had an Ati VGA Wonder-16
@MM007
6 жыл бұрын
You could either get some 4 MB 30-pin RAM, or get a later motherboard that supports both your DX4-100 and newer 72-pin RAM. Some later 486s also have VESA Local Bus slots and sometimes even PCI card slots. That might solve all of your problems provided you got the drivers. 72-pin RAM is also easy to get in 8 MB modules on up, though expect half the number of available RAM slots on the motherboard. Be careful not to mistake FPM and EDO memory modules. You'd likely want FPM memory. There will also likely be jumpers to note the motherboard's front side bus speed (33 MHZ for both DX2-66 and DX4-100), multipliers for the CPU (DX4-100 would be 3x), and possibly voltage and motherboard cache jumpers.
@rjnash2610
6 жыл бұрын
I'm pretty sure your sound card has two pins possibly causing a short on the header (most likely harmless but still not ideal!). You can clearly see the problem at 7:00. Later bud, keep the vids coming! :D
@twallcx
6 жыл бұрын
you could acquire a voltage regulator for it, that's what they did to solve this problem at the time, theoretically that CPU could work in that board
@armanelgtron4533
6 жыл бұрын
He did mention that in the video.
@twallcx
6 жыл бұрын
I noticed, then promptly did a facepalm
@xenonkay
6 жыл бұрын
SVGA is just an extension of VGA for resolutions above 640x480. If a card has more than 256kb of vram it's probably capable of SVGA even if it's not labeled as such and the amount of vram on the card determines how far you can push screen res/color depth. At 8-bit (256) color you need 1 byte per pixel so a 512kb card should do 800x600@8bit no problem. That Cirrus Logic card you ended up using in the end must have more than 256kb on board otherwise 640x480@8bit would be impossible (needs 300kb, and is why it's a classified as a SVGA mode). Also look for CPU config jumpers on the motherboard. Those old boards had boatloads of them and you probably need both voltage select and multiplier jumpers. X4 chips are a ruse; they actually run a 3X multiplier. Also also, Win3 has a DOS textmode setup program for selecting the video driver in case you end up with the wrong one installed and the GUI won't load. As primitive as Win3 is, it's not so primitive that you have to muck around in ini files by hand as a normal practice.
@101razzer
6 жыл бұрын
din't the DECTalk PC motherboard have a dip switch to set voltage to 3.3V for the CPU
@drumguy1384
6 жыл бұрын
I don't know about that board specifically, but my experience with 486s and early Pentiums leads me to believe it probably had either dip switches or jumpers to set that as most motherboards did. Too expensive to make different boards for different applications, just make everything dip or jumper selectable. That's how old-school overclocking worked as well, moving jumpers or dip switches on the mobo to change the base clock and multiplier. They also used to label boards pretty well back then too, for just such an occasion. If you look around for switches or jumpers on the board, you might just find it.
@drumguy1384
6 жыл бұрын
I have memories of an old Packard Bell that I upgraded the RAM and processor (with an overclock) back in the day. Even an off-the-shelf PC that wasn't really expected to be upgraded had jumper settings for any processor that could physically fit in the socket.
@roderickroderick7216
5 жыл бұрын
You can set the voltage with a jumper in the board
@munxcorp
6 жыл бұрын
1:45 Judging from the residue it looks like the Intel dx4 had a heatsink glued on it.
@majkl98se15
6 жыл бұрын
I usually run SETUP.EXE from the Windows folder and from DOS. It lets you change the video driver, as well as those other hardware settings that are mirrored in the Windows version of Setup.
@andrive
6 жыл бұрын
I can't scroll down without even seeing a 4/20 comment
@ReshiLuna
6 жыл бұрын
Andrive yup.
@nekomasteryoutube3232
6 жыл бұрын
If space wasn't an issue, I do believe there where adapters for 5 volt to 3.3 volt CPU's for socket 1 CPU's (basically they inserted into the socket, it steps the power dwon from 5 volts to 3.3, and has a socket on top for your 3.3 volt CPU)
@angieandretti
4 жыл бұрын
Aren't there 486DX4 Overdrive chips with built-in voltage regulators that are drop-in replacements for the DX2? That sounds awfully familiar, like something I think I saw on PhilsComputerLab.
@alynicholls3230
6 жыл бұрын
you can pick up a dx4 overdrive chip cheap on ebay, they are easy to spot as they are black with an intergrated black heatsink, just get a dx4 100 the overdrive version was meant as a drop in replacement for 5v motherboards, quite a lot of those sx 33 boards with the soldered in cpu had an extra foxconn socket as an upgrade path, just drop it in set the jumpers/dip switches and bingo, i miss the 486 days.
@chainedenintenloup
6 жыл бұрын
Those cards can handle pretty much every res and color depth of the time if you have enough vram. I have a cirus logic from 94 with a meg of vram and it can do 800x600 in 16 bits colours. If you can find the Cirus logic drivers and it's utilities, you should be able to change the res and colours in windows. Since you are using only the vga standard, you are pretty much limited, but this card supports also the vesa standard : www.pcguide.com/ref/video/stdVESA-c.html If you want to see what resolution and colour depth you can have for the amount of vram that you have, you can check this chart here : www.pcguide.com/ref/video/modes_Buffer.htm
@dos1044
6 жыл бұрын
OwO
@betamax80
6 жыл бұрын
ATI Mach32 would be an ultimate upgrade. I'd have thought a Paradise PVGA would be an option as well. I'd have thought at least 800x600 @ 256 / 1024x768 interlaced would be the kind of thing.
@codfish1113
6 жыл бұрын
5th comment. Anyone else looking forward to tomorrow (4/20)?
@eduardoavila646
6 жыл бұрын
mcplayer10000 Whut? Edit: Oh wait, i undertood! You invert the day with the month! Nice joke man
@DavidScheiber
6 жыл бұрын
Yeah cuz halo online 0.6 is releasing
@andrive
6 жыл бұрын
Eduardo Avila not really, it depends on your country. most countries use 4/20/2018 while others use 20/4/2018
@fdavidd
6 жыл бұрын
Or 2018/4/20, that's the one I use.
@aaaalex1994
6 жыл бұрын
I bought a 486 motherboard a couple months ago and I have a lot of problems regadring the HDD and the floppy disk. Starting 3 weeks ago, I can't boot to the hard drive (old 20 GB from 2000, I used OnTrack Disk Manager). I remember the last thing I tried before it stopped working was trying to fix the Y2K bug that the motherboard has by using a MS-DOS program. And now not even the floppy disk drive works (I just bought a Gotek Floppy Emulator and it still refuses to boot correctly from it). Any idea? (maybe I'm gonna make a video about it)
@nilswegner2881
6 жыл бұрын
ahernandez094 please make a video about it, then maybe I can help you
@SAMISCOOL510
6 жыл бұрын
it looks like the two holes on the last row have pins in them, get some thin gripy tweezers an pull them out that should work
@RezzRacc
6 жыл бұрын
Can't wait for 4/20 vid
@betamax80
6 жыл бұрын
Oh the AWE utils are quite cool on Win 3.1 :)
@ReshiLuna
6 жыл бұрын
That floppy disk holder is *awesome* ! Also, is that background from Pokémon ruby/sapphire?
@LazoeJSCREI
6 жыл бұрын
Isn't the voltage set on the motherboard by a jumper? I have a 486 socket board that supports all kinds of stuff and there's a lot of jumpers and a long list of settings for each CPU. One is voltage if I recall correctly.
@cjhawk67
6 жыл бұрын
You can network this with a 3com etherlink 3 3c509b with the network packet driver and mtcp btw
@eduardoavila646
6 жыл бұрын
Actually if you know the model, it isnt hard to find cirrus logic drivers today. I've used it a whole lot it in bochs and qemu, both pc and android versions
@Hogdriva
6 жыл бұрын
My XGA-2 MCA in my IBM PS/2 model 80 does 1024x768 256 colors in Windows 3.1... and the computer is from 1989. IBM is killen em'
@bwzes03
6 жыл бұрын
From the number of chips on the videocard it looks like it has 1MB of memory, which should allow 1024x768 in 256 color, or 800x600 in 16 bit color. The chip is capable of 24bit color in 640x480
@GBlastMan
6 жыл бұрын
next thing has to be the processor since it seems it allows "higher" resolutions and even works in 16-bit mode but for video capturing it kinda lacks the horse power needed yes, now playback its smooth since the 8 megs are helping out to make that happend but when you try to record things you NEED more processor power in order to have a more smooth or at least decent framerate, that's what is missing there and maybe why the system boots up so slowly to Win 3.11 but its strange since it has 8 megs windows shouldn't be lagging like it does. Anyway, really liking how this machine is shaping up to be.
@EvilTurkeySlices
2 жыл бұрын
My dx2-66 boots to 3.11 almost instantly, I think he has turbo on the slower mode.
@IanC14
6 жыл бұрын
iirc, that was around the time that AMD still acted as a second supplier for Intel architecture chips. They were licensed by Intel to do them. But they eventually started making thier own, including the Am5x86 and, well, look at them now
@rasz
6 жыл бұрын
Intel sued them over 386 (straight copy), 486 was AMDs independent design
@mattglad
6 жыл бұрын
The Am5x86 chip has voltage regulation built in? might want to look into one of those?
@rdxdt
6 жыл бұрын
You need one overdrive cpu, they are 3.3v with built in regulators to step down the 5v provided by the motherboard.
@MattK2015
6 жыл бұрын
I might be able to refurbish that vga card and make it able to use again
@jonmahashintina
6 жыл бұрын
still not sure how you plan on getting the ultimate dos gaming machine out of this. will it run rayman yet?
@Voidsworn
6 жыл бұрын
So, is how similar is that to the IBM Blue Lightning 486DX4/100?
@worroSfOretsevraH
6 жыл бұрын
Do you have by any mean link to full SoundBlaster CD downloads?
@SupremeToafu
6 жыл бұрын
Missed the mark on day by exactly 1. But still a good video none the less.
@Коммун
3 жыл бұрын
12:07 the first human say f*ck on youtube and subtitle too
@majoryoshi
6 жыл бұрын
Episode 4 is going to wifi or something network based at this rate
@KimTheCreator
6 жыл бұрын
How do card get out of its case to eat pins??? My card does this all the time and it's annoying af
@TheDeeplyCynical
6 жыл бұрын
Does that motherboard have a VESA Local Bus connector?
@yellows111
6 жыл бұрын
try installing the File Explorer patch to see xx/xx/18 dates correctly
@mspeter97
6 жыл бұрын
13:39 How the hell....
@MarcWeavers
6 жыл бұрын
no voltage and clock multiplier jumpers?
@SilverX95
3 жыл бұрын
i wonder if you ever did that CPU upgrade
@alynicholls3230
6 жыл бұрын
on my board the amd chips have an adapter socket between the foxconn and the cpu.
@thedevminer
6 жыл бұрын
I thougth 256MB memory is too less. Than you came in with 8MB!
@490o
5 жыл бұрын
Never tought you could play video with 8MB of RAM.
@SocialSpit
6 жыл бұрын
Yah this was all from 1992-93. Haha I remember doing all of this crap.
@fnjesusfreak
6 жыл бұрын
You could try an AMD 486DX5 (5x86)/133. xD
@white_mask13
6 жыл бұрын
why don't you use the pentium motherboard?
@burgerindividual
6 жыл бұрын
nikoskokonos13 it doesn’t fit in the dektalk case, and sacrifices have to be made for a cool case
@linksmith1057
6 жыл бұрын
If you want, in all seriousness if you haven’t thrown it away yet, you could send me that video card and if repair it for you. I have a full setup of desoldering tools and high end soldering equipment where I work as well as those ports.
@cheekycunt8584
6 жыл бұрын
happy 420 guys
@TrueChart251
6 жыл бұрын
Tomorrow is 420
@BlackDragon-xn2ww
6 жыл бұрын
As 101 razzer pointed out just get a motherboard manual for it and set the jumpers correctly these old boards had jumpers to setup cpu's clocks and voltages todays boards automatically do it but if for some reason that board doesn't support it then your screwed i guess didn't hear much on that board type
@onlycasualpotato
6 жыл бұрын
Aww, I wanted to see something explode...
@HuntersMoon78
6 жыл бұрын
Thank god you call it Lego not Leygoes
@davet231
6 жыл бұрын
23:35 Easy stop motion vid!
@BobM925
6 жыл бұрын
windsurf1.avi Memories
@StigDesign
6 жыл бұрын
1ramm slot at 6:36 seems alitle off :)
@cjhawk67
6 жыл бұрын
Not that much? Thats allot of ram for ms-dos lol I don't even know of a way to use that much ram up even with scsi sound mouse network zip drivers all loaded in at once and then trying to play a game still probably wouldn't be able to use up all the extended memory
@sammybrasch4926
5 жыл бұрын
Rip random vga cable missing vsync and hsync pins
@Snowwie88
6 жыл бұрын
Wasn't this called a "DOS" machine? This is more about Windows 3.11
@beedslolkuntus2070
6 жыл бұрын
THANKS BILL GATES :P
@jonmahashintina
6 жыл бұрын
bill gates is rolling in his grave
@beedslolkuntus2070
6 жыл бұрын
Jon Mahashintina What he isnt even dead for serouis He is still livivng :D
@eatsleepdie8808
3 жыл бұрын
www.vogons.org/viewtopic.php?t=72585 heres this for modding the motherboard to accept the DX4 without frying it, JIC you felt like it lol
@RageTurtle_Rage
6 жыл бұрын
who disabled my notifications?
@Yousitech
6 жыл бұрын
I have an amd 5x86 that will fit your socket if you want me to send it to you it does have a voltage adapter so it can run off 5v. PM me if you are interested
@Sfekke
6 жыл бұрын
411 Likes, REACHING 420 LIKES TERRITORY !!! LIKE VIDEO NOW REEEE
@subg9165
6 жыл бұрын
plz upload lego.avi seperately
@jjohnson71958
5 жыл бұрын
Go w the and chip
@SinglareMontages
6 жыл бұрын
AMD version of DX4 is 5V compatible. It's literally written on it.
@eduardoavila646
6 жыл бұрын
Singlare Isnt written 3v? At 1:22? My monitor is dying and its small (old laptop screen) so im not sure.
@SinglareMontages
6 жыл бұрын
Eduardo Avila Oh, yeah, you totally right, my bad.
@jonmahashintina
6 жыл бұрын
:/
@calebhuddleston8714
6 жыл бұрын
420 do an update on dank os !!
@Voldrania
5 жыл бұрын
Wtf when I watched this and checked the clock it was 4:20
@cryan584
6 жыл бұрын
quit changing the video driver jesus
@ultrasonic3368
6 жыл бұрын
Just use a beefy eMachines system! LOL (don't hate it's a joke)
@burgerindividual
6 жыл бұрын
Ultrasonic54321 h a t e
@ReshiLuna
6 жыл бұрын
Lol.. beefy and emachines do *not* go together. (At least my/my parents's emachines is not beefy. I bet it couldn't even run solitaire without lagging. But the machine is really nostalgic to me, so I can't "bash" it too much...)
@betamax80
6 жыл бұрын
PLEASE, Please get the Windows 3.1 OEM graphics drivers for that card! It's so much more likely to work well than the inbox drivers... www.vogonsdrivers.com/index.php?catid=47
@betamax80
6 жыл бұрын
I totally agree. The specific Cirrus Logic drivers were required. The inbox SVGA modes just didn't work on those cards.
@twilightthepony
6 жыл бұрын
Wang chips...
@dragonboyjazz
6 жыл бұрын
wow that vid cars @9:50 has 2 wang's .... how about that the card has no balls and 2 wang's.... fitting for the late 80's/early 90's
@dragonboyjazz
6 жыл бұрын
you sing like a tesla coil in the lego.avi vid bro, maybe you can sell that!!!
@01Swift
6 жыл бұрын
hey
@itsstephenj
6 жыл бұрын
The high pitch whine through the whole video is... unpleasant
@ReshiLuna
6 жыл бұрын
itsstephenj I'm used to it. Been around old computers almost all my life.
@aaronsaura6746
6 жыл бұрын
Next do windows media encoder / streaming.
@raydeen2k
6 жыл бұрын
Jesus hasn't ever screwed with my video settings. My network settings though... I know he thinks he's being funny, but man, he's gotta cut his hair, get out of the garage loft and get a job so he can afford his own computer to screw around with.
@shannonthede1535
6 жыл бұрын
Bug one request just build of windows 98 machine keep windows 1988 and then sell it to me
@Qardo
6 жыл бұрын
*Pay 10 bucks for 10MBs of RAM. Complains about it being a ripoff* Uhm...you realize that there is a "RAM Shortage" all over the world? Much like the GPU Shortage? Prices are going up for everything.
@davet231
6 жыл бұрын
That's on modern mem the price on old memory is stable.
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