Sometimes I think her bangs seeped into her brain and made her go insane
@TheMarkmcr
2 жыл бұрын
No, it happened soon after she started college Great humor though😀
@AanchalGhai
2 жыл бұрын
Rofling
@TheMarkmcr
2 жыл бұрын
@@AanchalGhai ?
@AanchalGhai
2 жыл бұрын
@@TheMarkmcr it means I’m laughing
@TheMarkmcr
2 жыл бұрын
@@AanchalGhai 😀
@gabrielacanette5485
3 жыл бұрын
I put the 🙅 on the character when SHE cheated on Dean but somehow the whole town begins to treat Dean badly and they assume that he was the guilty one of everything and she never stand up and clears things up. The poor boy was literally forbidden to enter the stores, although he stopped being the poor boy the moment he cheated on his wife with Rory .....
@trinitytay430
3 жыл бұрын
yes!! I honestly think that most people chose to ignore her flaws because they felt bad for her and lorelai?? even though they were doing just fine??? idk it’s very weird but I do feel bad for dean. He was never my favorite, but i think his character had a sucky ending too lol
@ThsBehaviorsNtUnique
3 жыл бұрын
@@trinitytay430 I think it's partly that they felt bad for her as a young child, but I feel like a lot of it has to do with her appearance. If she didn't have that angelic face, big blue eyes, and good-girl hairstyle and clothes, I'm pretty sure people would have reacted to Rory's behavior a lot differently. But they couldn't break out of this perception of her being a good girl, no matter what she did.
@sarahnaithammou
3 жыл бұрын
Technically, the town treated him badly after she wouldn't say, "I love you" back and he broke up with her in S1, not after she cheated on him in S3. The town was chill with him after their second breakup, and she even felt awkward hanging out with Jess publicly afterward.
@purplehello98
3 жыл бұрын
I feel really bad for Dean, they ruined his character bit by bit after Jess showed up to justify Rory dating Jess
@angie-up2cs
3 жыл бұрын
Ikr and when I realized that when she was older and with Logan, she knew he was married and still was fine with him cheating like 😵💫😵😖
@dietdrpepper15
3 жыл бұрын
It's not that she makes mistakes its that she doesn't learn from them or try to make up for them. Just painful to watch.
@Grace-oz2ud
3 жыл бұрын
Yes!
@jennyschroeder1717
3 жыл бұрын
When you are young and dumb you are gonna make mistakes. But she just kept getting more and more spoiled and never learned
@karunamukkamalla13
3 жыл бұрын
yea like humans make mistakes but she made them over and over and didnt fix anything or try at all
@carolinaaguirre6199
3 жыл бұрын
Exactly
@xxluciddreamingxx
3 жыл бұрын
Some people, in life, just dont learn. They live their life in cycles because nobody taught them differently. Id like to think , what writers did was precisely that, showin how being brought up like Rory, took a toll on her life afterwards. She was always this entitled little brat that everybody cherished and when she did something bad, it was not her fault (its the circumstance or other people influencing her). Otherwise , if its just bad writing cos they didnt know how to originally continue writing process, then, it falls into a creative bin of many shows being prolongued for too long,for money grab.
@katecod2195
3 жыл бұрын
I think most of Rory’s downfalls really came down to Lorelai’s parenting. She treated Rory like her best friend and made Rory think that she was just this perfect, amazing person who could never do anything wrong. So when she made even the slightest mistake or faced any sort of criticism, constructive or not, she freaked out and had a meltdown which never ended well. She was also never disciplined for anything which led her to do so many horrible things and convince herself and others that she didn’t do anything wrong. That just proves that parenting your children right is so important because it will determine their entire life.
@madamevipere
8 ай бұрын
Omg such a great analise congrats
@SweetJeess
6 ай бұрын
This comment 💯 💯 💯 she was so spoiled by Lorelai and her grandparents. They NEVER let her take responsibility or real consequences for her action’s. And she has 0 morals.
@slushsvoid5041
5 ай бұрын
Honestly, when I started to watch the show, I was sorta jealous over the friendly relationship that Lorelai and Rory shared because of the way they would bicker and make jokes that I wouldn't understand lol. My relationship with my mom is great, like we joke around too but not as much as the girls do in the show. After reading this comment, I'm grateful that my mom isn't like my "bestfriend" or sm, like she is someone who I admire and love so much for, we are very close but what I'm glad about is the fact that she actually acts like a parent and a friend which creates a balance in our relationship 🥰
@malvernufntigp394
5 ай бұрын
Now I am a mum while mine was always kind of absent my entire life. I always wanted a friend mum. But as I am one myself now I kind of get the feeling that my children need a safe and orderly place with me to grow up to be good people. Once the y are I will be able to step back as a parent a little and can build a more friend like relationship. As grown ups from eye to eye. But I see now that children need safe parents who show them direction, personal borders and love, too. Rolemodels are soooo important.
@zaray6339
3 ай бұрын
exactly! whenever rory would start crying in her apologies about how "she's such a horrible person" lorelai would switch up immediately and comfort her. also several times lorelai is heard saying "rory would never do that, rory is such a nice girl, rory is a good girl" etc. lorelai didn't even blame her for being the "other woman" AGAIN. first time she slept with dean lorelai just stayed out of it and never put her foot down as a real mother should do
@adsl-b6325
3 жыл бұрын
I think she went downhill after she chose yale over Harvard as she just chooses to follow her families privilege and ideals rather than going to Harvard as it was all she ever wanted and worked for
@virgola2126
3 жыл бұрын
That's why Lorelai was so mad about it. She knew all along.
@karunamukkamalla13
3 жыл бұрын
the only reason yale was good in the show for her was cause of paris but she should've gone to harvard cause she had always dreamed of going there and she got in, i agree
@CrisOnTheInternet
3 жыл бұрын
Also it makes look like Richard actually pulled the strings for her. Also that level of attachment with Lorelai can't be healthy.
@chloechang8810
3 жыл бұрын
Q
@Starbits7
3 жыл бұрын
Imo, I think she was genuinely interested in Yale, but to me, I think she chose it over Harvard because it was close to home. Remember, on her first night at school she had to call her mommy and have her come back. I saw it as Rory not being able to handle life on her own even if it's just college and her not wanting her life to really change. It just reeked of immaturity.
@ohheyLeighannn
2 жыл бұрын
At the end of the day, Rory is a character whose life has been made up by writers. Don't let that affect your own life.
@johnxm2692
2 жыл бұрын
Exaclty this, it’s very easy for media to subconsciously change us, and we don’t even recognise it
@surenderbeniwal8578
2 жыл бұрын
@@johnxm2692 i very much acknowledge the 'subconsciously affecting part n' the not really knowing it's doing that'. I've found the things(tv/books/anything for that matter) that i consume affect me a lot both consciously n' subconsciously. I gave up watching this program in middle of S4 i guess, when i started recognizing how bad and negative it made me feel afterwards. The character of Rory being told(by others) as "good person" when u can see from the start how obviously flawed it was from her actions. Also, Paris i mean ugh! i found that really toxic, how jealousy was practically overlooked, how they called them "friends" ....that's not healthy friendship, thanku very much. (Dunno if their characters develop/flushed out in later seasons, as I've not watched them n' never intend to)...don't get me started on Emily n Richard, just pretentious, fame seeking, horrible people. Ugh! I love to see things like pure genuine love, healthy relations, found family, redemption arcs, et cetera. Since then I've watched many things i loved(n had a great time watching, unlike GG which made me wanna crawl outta my skin/disgusted afterwards n ultimately give up on). Edit: (an year later) since then I’ve watched GG completely, with the revival and still stand on how I described things. This time around i watched it in short increments whenever i was home from college - in doses i could handle n’ skipped the parts I couldn’t stand. At last, i found myself satisfied with how it wrapped up and have a happy memory with the show. Nonetheless i still acknowledge the flawed & morally grey characters, however they maybe perceived in the show (as perfect).
@desvlogs04
2 жыл бұрын
yes! just because there is a character that you relate to doesn’t mean her choices become yours 😅😅
@janemary8376
2 жыл бұрын
Exactly!!
@anne-kathrinvogel6427
2 жыл бұрын
@@surenderbeniwal8578 I would love to find shows like you described them, with genuine love and healthy relationships. Could you please name a few of them? Thank you very much :)
@JAUNEtheLOCKE
Жыл бұрын
For anyone feeling discouraged by the downfall (in a way) of Rory, here’s how you can shift your perspective of it: she’s not a staple story, she’s a cautionary tale. She’s showing you that, even if you start out well, the minute you forget your “why” (or, rather, minutes- one bad moment won’t be the end of the world) you will start going downhill and may disappoint your past self. You must keep going and take care of yourself, overcome problems, take no’s as guides to try again in different ways. Be kind to yourself and honor your passions and plans. Things will go wrong but you need to be flexible and adapt to the new reality, not give up because it’s too hard. Keep your values close to you and have patience and perseverance. Identify with Rory and try not to turn out like how she turned out. Change the ending of the story, be the version of Rory you wish she turned out to be. That’s what kinda helped me 🌻 kzitem.infoJdROyeTMFuQ?feature=share
@mayloo2137
8 ай бұрын
I didn't mind the end of the series, but her rock-bottom was In the Year of the Life. I watched that. Never again.
@SamaHassen-gn9wi
5 ай бұрын
Thats a great way to look at it
@anniejirovec2628
3 ай бұрын
I think this is the best comment under this video.
@genesiscda4847
3 жыл бұрын
Rory sleeping with Dean while he was married was when she really did herself in, in my opinion. She went downhill real fast after that one choice.
@adapienkowska2605
3 жыл бұрын
But why this? She wasn't married to his wife, after all. Why is it always a woman fault with cheating?
@lana3426
3 жыл бұрын
@@adapienkowska2605 she knew he was married and she broke up with him, it’s not exclusively her fault but she played a big part in it
@erinhughes8991
3 жыл бұрын
@@adapienkowska2605 Dean was a shitty person for cheating. He's the primary one that should be blamed. However, Rory knew that he was married, and still did what she did. Meaning that she's not blameless there either. If you cheat on your significant other, you suck. If you partake in a relationship in which you know that person is already committed to someone else, you also suck.
@adapienkowska2605
3 жыл бұрын
Unless she drugged him (and she didn't) he is to blame. He was the one cheating on his wife. I don't understand why the moment is so heavily pushed on Rory's back. She did horrible things before and after that.
@monicac2466
3 жыл бұрын
They’re both to blame, but I agree. It took her way too long to realize the mistake she’d made and be willing to acknowledge it. And this is because of how easily Lorelai usually let her bad behaviour slide after an initial scolding.
@rebekahhutchins9564
3 жыл бұрын
How not to be Rory... don't get handed everything in life and then refuse to see that you are privileged and then refuse to ever listen to any criticism without freaking out. Ohh also don't be selfish and explain why it was ok to sleep with a married man. Think you'll be fine.
@mariak9397
3 жыл бұрын
So true. I would add being humble and have good manners (e.g. Logan brought a guest present to Rorys grandparents, Rory didn't) AND to realise what makes you happy and what kind of job and partner will fit to your character and life.
@rene3759
3 жыл бұрын
Also don't have a weird codependent bestie relationship with your mom. It took me years to realise how unhealthy her relationship with her mom was and.Also my own relationship.with my mom we had an almost similar relationship and I tell you real life lorelei mom is actually a nightmare in disguise. Once the whimsical music and laughing tracks are gone and you start setting boundaries and living your own separate and individual life you starts looking more like mother gothel.
@mariak9397
3 жыл бұрын
@@rene3759 interesting aspect. I am really sorry for your bad relationship and experience. What do you think was particularly unhealthy? In my opinion Lorelei just passed down some bad traits, like 1. being very rude towards people, which might be fun in a TV show but isn't working out in real life or judging people, 2. Not taking other peoples feelings in consideration- like not showing up to her marriage with Max M., changing her mind one day before the marriage (without reason) and just taking a vacation while Max had to sort out all the mess (there are so many examples...) and 3. Talking about the relationships of Rory (too much information). How does the unhealthy relationship between Rory and Lorelei show in your opinion?
@angie-up2cs
3 жыл бұрын
BHAHAHAHA YESS.
@c.l.1820
3 жыл бұрын
She only got handed everything in her late teen years when her rich grandparents were back in the picture. Which in my opinion isn't a good age to be all of a sudden find out and become your super rich grandparents new favorite. Plus, there's the daddy issues.
@ilariaf.9489
3 жыл бұрын
I feel like it’s partly Lorelai’s fault. From the start she always excused Rory’s bad behavior and she was told so much both by Lorelai and her grandparents that she was special and gifted to the extend where she became entitled and egocentric. Gilmore girls is a perfect example of how babying your child and feeding up its ego a little bit to much can result in deeper consequences once it grows an example of this could be Rory dropping our of college fighting with her mom and changing the entire course of her life because someone critisised her ! Of course she’s told she’s this wonderful human being who can never do anything wrong and once she steps into the real world she cracks. If rorys character development was an intent from the writers to show how privilege and entitlement can ruin a person then I think it was genious and well done,if it was just lousy writing then it’s kind of disappointing. Guess we’ll never know
@trinitytay430
3 жыл бұрын
spot on!!! lorelai definitely sheltered Rory way too much
@rene3759
3 жыл бұрын
@@trinitytay430 party sheltered partly used as an emotional crutch. Their dynamic was actually so unhealthy. You kid is not and should not be your bestie and should have to deal with adult problems especially not yours. It was weird how she simultaneously sheltered her and burdened her with things she should have had to deal with at her age. I've had a similar dynamic with my mom and I tell you bestie mom will royal mess you up. Rorys "downfall" is perfect reflection of how she grew up. Her mom was projecting herself onto rory a lot like a "mini me but better" "a do over".
@mariak9397
3 жыл бұрын
I am not sure. Logan was spoiled, Christopher was too and as well as a lot of other people of the Chilton School (Sry if I spelled it wrong). But they got places, despite their entitlement and privilege. I would even say because of it. But Rory didn't. In my opinion Rory is really 1. confused (she has no clue what she needs in a relationship/partner and who she is - "besides a good student and journalist", so people can tell her whatever they want to and she believes it. Most people experienced someone telling them, that you aren't capable of this or that, but knowing who they are, helps to don't bother about their saying), 2. has issues (in my opinion commitment issues) and 3. a bad character - which she was not aware of (!)- and don't get me wrong I am not just talking about her cheating - I especially mean them making fun about the people at the pool - Lorelei didn't tell her it was wrong. In my opinion Emily had her flaws but she knew that this is just bad manners, you don't make fun of other peoples appearance. I think Lorelei should have told Rory what's right and wrong - like not cheating, don't be full of self pity, ....(I could go on and on about the displays of ther bad character. 4. Rory didn't consider if a critical comment might have some truth in it without giving up - and not showing them she can do it despite of. But in my opinion people do make mistakes and I am not sure if it has always to do with their upbringing. After 25 you are able to work on yourself and can't always blame your upbringing.
@angie-up2cs
3 жыл бұрын
Ikr I kinda feel she did it to give her daughter the space and trust she never had (or never thought she had) but it was still wrong to make it like nothing happened
@alaskayoung7414
3 жыл бұрын
ok guys calm down a little. its a fic show, right? as a real psychologist (who is not fluent in english but i will try my best) what i can say right here is: fictional series tend to look like they are organic and fluid and based on real stories but not. the most part of the motivation to make changes and what will or will not be part of character and plot development is to getting the show to continue with its audience. it involves not only the screenwriter but also the target audience at the time and the reviews the show received at that time as well (and, of course, everything they did to fix it). anyway, seriously. don't make generalist comparisons and believe that because a mother is her daughter's best friend that it will 100% of the time go wrong. real life is multiple, complex and involves MUCH more than a fictional series can tell you. just, relax.
@urvashikumra4935
2 жыл бұрын
See the thing is, Rory didn't burn out because she studied too hard in highschool, the downfall occured because the older she got, the less Lorelai sheltered her and thats when you start to realize that the more freedom she gains the more she doesn't underestand how to navigate it. She didn't burn to a crisp because of trying hard, she failed because when she finally was given the ability to do whatever she wanted with her life, she overestimated her own abilities and her own eq. Gilmore Girls has always been a show really close to my heart because I learn a lot from Rory, she is kind of like my reality check. Lorelai really did the best she could while raising Rory but the more she loosened the leash, the more you dig into the personality that Rory has been sheltering her whole life, studying hard and preparing for your future are only going to get you so far but at the end of the day Rory's downfall developed from an area of entitlement. The more prep schools and fancy galas she went to, the more she felt like she deserved every opportunity, every ounce of respect, and when she didn't receive that or received something on the opposing end of the spectrum (Mitchum's review over her during the internship), the more it hurt her and the more she felt a need to rebel and act out because she felt entitled to his praise and felt like if she couldn't have what she wanted, the world should have to suffer.
@davidsumner7604
Жыл бұрын
I think a big problem is that she had an absentee father. Yes, her father loved her and did try to make time for her, but he wasn't living in the same house, Rory didn't see him that often, and he formed a new family with another woman. Luke doted on her too much and also could be a positive role model but was in no position to apply discipline. This show does a really good job of displaying how detrimental single motherhood is to a child's development. Lorelei did the best she could but without a strong father figure, Rory falters.
@rollinginthedeep6900
10 ай бұрын
Yes exactly! Rory is such a reality check for high achieving young people that achievement and praise alone will not get you what you want in life. Things like internal motivation, relationship building, and discovering genuine interests are necessary too. In my own personal opinion, I think Lorelai contributed a lot to Rory's downfall by focusing too much on showering Rory with praise and giving her all the love and comfort she didn't receive as a child. She treated Rory like a "do over" for her own childhood, up to and including achieving things she never did like going to college. Rory may have grown up loved and comfortable, but she lacked in hard disciplinary moments and life lessons that could have taught more about who she really is and prevented a lot of the floundering she does later in life with more freedom. Even when Rory did something Lorelai disagreed with deeply like sleeping with Dean while he was married, Lorelai couldn't do anything because she was only in a "best friend" role, not that of a disciplinary parent. Of course by the time Rory makes that choice she's already an adult so there might have been nothing Lorelai could do anyway, I just always struggled with how little Lorelai could influence Rory after she grew up and moved out.
@carrie8443
2 жыл бұрын
She never acknowledged her privilege. I really enjoyed when Logan told her, she’s just like him. They’re both trust fund kids. Rory wanted to be a self made woman like her mom but in reality she was always on the rich side of the Gilmores
@marygomez5184
3 жыл бұрын
Gilmore girls is literally everything to me so I just decide to erase the last few seasons from my mind and it works pretty well
@trinitytay430
3 жыл бұрын
I do the same thing LOL
@cemre2557
3 жыл бұрын
I can’t do that because of luke&lorelai:((
@RheaPatranabis
2 жыл бұрын
Omg same. I wiped out everything after Rory and dean you know. I just skipped everything after. It was weird, didn’t feel like watching further
@aayushmaadhikari658
3 жыл бұрын
Yes, we love Rory but Paris and Emily had the best character development! Thank you for making this video!
@trinitytay430
3 жыл бұрын
I LOVE PARIS!
@savannahsmiles1797
3 жыл бұрын
@@trinitytay430 gotta love Paris, she FIGHTS tooth and nail for everything she gets and wins. I was sad about her and Doyle not making it after having kids. I really thought she would MAKE sure her marriage lasted and her kids were not from a broken home.
@SanchoGracie
3 жыл бұрын
I vote Gil. Sebastian Bach stole every scene he was in. My dad was such a fan of his music when I was a kid, so seeing the contrast of him in that role was so fun.
@IkkyYuppie
2 жыл бұрын
No they didnt!! Mrs Kim has THE best character development. everyone else stayed the same and rory got worse!
@_lilly347
2 жыл бұрын
@@IkkyYuppie Emily didn't stay the same
@libertyonia3453
3 жыл бұрын
Rory was an average girl and honestly wasn’t good enough for any Ivy League school (at least with current standards). Lori gave her too much praise so no wonder Rory failed when stuff actually got hard. She has no grit
@reesejames7240
3 жыл бұрын
exactly!! she wouldn’t have gotten into yale if she didn’t go to a private school and have rich grandparents
@fatoumatacisse3796
3 жыл бұрын
YESSS EXACTLY
@emmakardokus20
3 жыл бұрын
i think about that a lot with current expectations. i think the show couldve said a lot more if she still got into a good school that wasnt ivy league while paris (someone who i believe was more likely to bc of both because of her status and academic drive) went to yale/harvard.
@j.r.cilliangreen4083
3 жыл бұрын
And that is called privilege and the is what the Ivies are about so…
@ar.heenafathima1332
3 жыл бұрын
You are absolutely right
@GoblinsAreAGirlsBestFriend
3 жыл бұрын
I was the same age as Rory while the show aired and I started out feeling like I was Rory, and grew up to realize I was actually Lorelei, and that's not a bad thing. I think now, as a woman in her early 30s, looking back I totally understand the criticism she got from Mitchum Huntzberger when she interned - I _get it now_ and it was so valid. Rory spent all that time interning trying to fit into the system, rather than bringing something new to it. She was aiming to blend in, not stand out. He was entirely right. Rory could only imagine the bar where others had already set it. That was her downfall.
@trinitytay430
3 жыл бұрын
great take! I love hearing from people like you that have a different perspective than myself :)
@GOTTABEJJ
3 жыл бұрын
Totally!
@aubreydeangelo
3 жыл бұрын
Older than OP but younger than you. As a child and a teenager rewatching I loved Rory. Then as an adult I lived Lorelai. I get it. I get why they messed up. Its messy. That's growing up.
@savannahsmiles1797
3 жыл бұрын
not a downfall, she wasn't much of a leader, and her mom's character was WAY too overpowering for her to lead. She was better at assisting, and as an introvert they seek out fitting in, rather than bucking a system like Lorelai.
@noel2223
3 жыл бұрын
I always thought it was kind of strange that Rory wanted to be a journalist because she never really had the personality of one. I went to school for political science and many of my friends were going into journalism and you HAVE to stand out and really push the envelope just to have a shot in that field. I don’t understand how she even got the presidential campaign position but the last season of the show mixed with AYITL didn’t make sense any way 😀
@marygomez5184
3 жыл бұрын
Her life was kinda perfect and never rlly had to face anyone who didn’t like her (which I hated) so when that happened- she broke
@trinitytay430
3 жыл бұрын
True!
@m.e.7794
Жыл бұрын
wait. what about the first weeks in chilton?
@kevinkEviN-xt2xf
Жыл бұрын
@@m.e.7794 the only person who really disliked her then was paris, madeline and louise were just paris's sidekicks. paris's dislike for rory was based off of petty jealousy and fear of losing her status because of rory's intelligence, which in a way was still a compliment to rory. so until rory went to yale and got the internship with mitchum huntzberger, she had never met someone who really thought she was just average or had any criticism for her.
@debbiegrosskopf2419
2 жыл бұрын
Rory was raised by a mom that wanted a best friend, a playmate. She never wanted to play the mom card and it shows. Rory is a spoiled, sheltered, self-centered girl that grows up to be a spoiled, self-centered woman. She is the center of the universe for all of the adults in her life-people that should be teaching her right from wrong, how to succeed, how to fail and get back up. Instead, they tell her how amazing she is, how gifted. They bend over backward to smooth her path, creating a girl that has no idea how to deal with disappointment and defeat and push thru to the otherside. That is a tragedy. She doesn't know how to be a friend. She doesn't know how to be a girlfriend. And she has a serious lack of self control. She treats people poorly and is rarely called out for it. It's all just so sad.
@megandoris8079
3 жыл бұрын
honestly, I felt Rory's college years were needed. She was almost too perfect in high school. We all go through a moment in life where reality hits us and we make some poor decisions. Her choosing to have an affair with Dean was her trying to go back in time to when things were easier for her. Let's face it, while Chilton may have been a hard school, she had it pretty damn easy growing up. High school is such a structured thing with mostly everyone working towards a common goal, getting into college. But what happens once you achieve that goal? What happens once your days aren't as scheduled and you're "taken" away from everything you've known? your comfort zone? i was very similar to Rory, I did well in school, I was a major book lover, I had a great mom and great life at home, and then when I went to college I was lost. I remember getting my first B and crying and feeling like a failure. We all have to go through the hard times to get to the good. Her choosing not to marry Logan and instead go off and do her own thing was to me the sign of good things coming for Rory and her truly finding herself again. I refuse to acknowledge the revival as even part of the storyline of Gilmore Girls because of how badly it destroyed Rory. Everything up until then made sense to me.
@FairyQueen02
2 жыл бұрын
Apparently, the way it ended was not how it was supposed to. Some old writers came up and said, im dissapointed and hurt they gave this ending for rory. It truly is sad to see how they gave her a downfall, and never let her get back, which is understandable and realistic, but it ruined the show. I refuse to watch the last episodes each time i rewatch because of that
@hoora4818
2 жыл бұрын
me too
@MyMelody5
Жыл бұрын
This is so true! I did so well in school before college cause everything was so structured and teachers will remind you about due dates or tests coming up but in university, you basically have to plan your own schedule and check the syllabus to see when you have a test cause the Prof. Don’t care to remind you. 😅
@treatpeoplewithkindness2955
Жыл бұрын
@@FairyQueen02 actually her downfall was there since the beggining. Rory have always been a super privilege girl who according to her mom and everyone else in town could not do anything wrong . For that reason she is not used to failure or being held accountable for her wrong decisions. She likes the idea of being an independent woman but everytime something went wrong she run to their grandparents to ask for money and a place to stay. She is spoiled and when someone said she is not that great her whole world falls apart. And this is realistic, because life is not like High school. Life doesn't depend of grades it depends of resilience, learning about our mistakes and that's something Rpry didn't learn in any point of the series.
@A350Airways
8 ай бұрын
@@treatpeoplewithkindness2955 And, of course, people who attend Yale or Harvard are usually not used to failure either, even the less privileged students, especially given just how extreme the admission standards are these days, or even in pre-pandemic days. Which makes at least some of them risk-averse enough to feel like they can avoid failure altogether, provided they know who to schmooze, what other resources are required, what prerequisites are there, and so on.
@aathenaiz6151
3 жыл бұрын
am i the only one who wasn’t surprised AT ALL on her development? since season 1 she was showing how spoiled and bratty she was same with lorelai
@trinitytay430
3 жыл бұрын
I guess so, but Rory still had a lot of potential. a lot of successful people are still spoiled and bratty but still managed to get a lot more done in their lives. I wish Rory had been one of those people :)
@angie-up2cs
3 жыл бұрын
Yes I guess though, I feel like Lorelei improved a lot more like in the end she even (I guess) made up with her mom, I kinda feel like Lorelei was doing little zigzags while Rory was literally just going downfall
@fernandafavareto6180
3 жыл бұрын
Since a watched it at a very young age I got disappointed because I thought she could be more. But watching it as an adult it was pretty obvious she would turn out like that.
@rachel-wx1lo
3 жыл бұрын
later definitely but how was she bratty in s1?
@j.r.cilliangreen4083
3 жыл бұрын
I call a bit of bullshit and I have watched this so many times I could write thr episode scripts out…where bratty in high school?
@simonesobel7882
3 жыл бұрын
When Rory ended college her life made sense. She got perfect grades ar Yale, she was editor of the paper, she had a guy who loved her and proposed marriage ( which she turned down for her career), and she turned down one job offer, got rejected from her dream internship and then turned a million applications finally landing a great job. Her being a cheater with Dean wasn't cool, but it was kinda obvious that feelings rushed over and she lost control. She tried to make things right by sending him a letter saying please go back to married life, but ih oh Lindsey found it. In terms of guys she made stupid choices, but Logan was something solid in her life. It was a real grown up relationship, and she probably made the right choice at the time. The screwed up thing was the revival. It turned from the happy show we all loved to something depressing and stupid. Why would riry not have moved on with her life. Why would her work ethic just fly out the door, and it never explained how her first job went and how that panned out. She is dating a guy she clearly doesn't even like, and then allowing Logan to treat her like dirt. This is someone she turned down marriage and should have just completely phase out. It doesn't explain how they got back in touch. When she moves back to star hollow her life becomes pathetic. Finally she realizes she shouldn't be a journalist, but a writer. Without a full-time job that's a risky proposition. Let's live in grandpas study before I make it big. I also hate that lane barely got a chance to reveal anything interesting about her life, she didn't say what her kids were like or if she was happy with Zach who looked like he aged 60 years. Bad bad revival!!!
@savannahsmiles1797
3 жыл бұрын
highly disappointing. Great to see the characters. MAD that Paris and Doyle were tanking. I HATED Luke and Lorelai as a couple. Luke was her servant and that STUNK. Luke really didn't help to grow Lorelai one bit. Missed Sukie (not sure spelling) her bestest friend wasn't around? Wanted Logan to become greater than Mitchum at whatever just prove he could. The musical didn't even make any sense, really thought it was a waste of viewing.
@SallyWallach
3 жыл бұрын
HATED the revival! While Lorelei and Rory were flawed in the series, they were never cruel. In the revival, they have become mean girls (witness the very unkind mocking of unpopular body shapes, for instance.)
@somyasharma7095
3 жыл бұрын
@@SallyWallach ik and rory made logan cheat on her fiance (his choice was there too) but it seemed selfish that she knew logan would be still there after so many years, kinda like she was using him
@Ardit-kq4bt
3 жыл бұрын
@@savannahsmiles1797 I liked the revival tbh. I want a part 2 so bad. There were some boring parts like the musical and I love to see a development between Rory and Jess in the second part of the revival .
@geenagr
3 жыл бұрын
I think the basic message is a very realistic one: even if you do everything "right" , you can still fail in life. Professionally and as a personality. She finished the good schools, she finished Yale, she did not get pregnant at 16, she did go for the "successful and independent"thing ....but still failed. Mostly as a personality she turned out to be a big disappointment. The reason why people are mad is because we dont want to see reality on tv. We experience reality everyday. We need film and drama to escape to, to find insiration and motivation. In the end to find courage. Rory failed the viewers in that regard
@courtneymichelle5746
3 жыл бұрын
I will never understand why everyone put Dean above all else, and made him seem like he was above all else. He was extremely toxic, and was a horrible boyfriend because all he wanted to do was control Rory and make her feel bad for having priorities other than Dean.
@nogalistanineties9237
2 жыл бұрын
He High key manipulated and lie her to sleep with him that night Rory was easily manipulated. He told her repeatedly told her it was over which was untrue but Rory was probably convinced that dean and Lindsey Both decided to work towards devorce and then dropped the L bomb on her
@theorca3451
2 жыл бұрын
@@nogalistanineties9237 everyone fully blames Rory but Dean was the one who cheated on his wife.
@fomalhauto
2 жыл бұрын
I don't see everyone putting Dean above all else I see a lot of people viewing Dean just like you're viewing him all of the characters are a bit flawed
@brians9508
2 жыл бұрын
Dean needed to control Rory because Rory needed to be controlled. Rory was a horribly spoiled and shallow person, and she needed guidance from someone other than her ditzy mom that spoiled the crap out of her. Imagine for a moment being Dean and having to put up with self centered Rory. It would be horrible. Dean needed to put her in her place.
@annika803
2 жыл бұрын
@@brians9508 I think you're being a bit too harsh. Dean was no better than Rory, even in the early seasons. They were just young, no one needed to be put in their place💀
@juliatowne9478
3 жыл бұрын
fun fact : I wrote my college admissions essay about this! I wanted to be Rory so badly when I was young, but growing meant realizing that heroes are flawed and it’s better to come into my own strengths (even if I’m not perfect either)
@trinitytay430
3 жыл бұрын
that’s so cool!!!
@RebeccaEd
3 жыл бұрын
Would be very interesting to read! Do you agree though that people are not perfect and characters in media should not be perfect either? In my opinion, a lot of the criticism about Rory seems to be people being mad that she was not perfect. I don't know where they got this expectation from. I think the fact that she makes mistakes and sometimes take a bad path makes her more relatable.
@elanasophia9758
3 жыл бұрын
Love the idea! I lived for the series and always thought that Rory was my ideal too. She has flaws and you grow and you perspectives switch sometimes. That’s Life.
@juka8463
3 жыл бұрын
@@RebeccaEd I think one of the reasons why ppl want Rory to be so perfect is because she is very motivating, like fx. the fact that she cares about school and reads all these books and does her homework is motivating. I remember when I first started watching it I also started doing my homework and started to care more about my future, just cuz I wanted to be ''smart'' like Rory. I feel like some characters can be portrayed as perfect while others don't have to. In the beginning there was this nice balance between Rory and Lorelai, Lorelai was the not perfect character while Rory was the perfect character and they were complete opposites, it made it more fun to watch. I'm not saying that Rory shouldn't make any mistakes at all, some minor ones are fine like the whole Dean vs Jess situation, but it would be nice to acc see her go to Harvard, get a nice job and still be a good person yk.
@goretyc
2 жыл бұрын
same girly
@chryssas.556
3 жыл бұрын
Rory was never a horrible person. She was just a person. The reason everyone says that her character had a fall is because in the beginning she was potrayed as someone literally perfect. A kid with no flaws. Someone that anyone wiuld want to be. But when she started being more human-like everyone started saying that sha had become a horrible person. She did many things that also lorelai had done but no one talks abt lorelai as she is a bad person simply bcs lorelai never was potrayed as someone “perfect” so no one had set such high expectations for her. Rory just became a person and did many things that many of us are doing every single day. Tbh i liked her more in the ending bcs she showed that she was more relatable. She made mistakes, she made bad decisions like literally every single person does especially when they are young or when they are broken. The girl that she was in the beginning was anything but relatable or realistic
@rene3759
3 жыл бұрын
I think people are upset because they projected themself onto her and anyone who lives in a similar family dynamic as rory will have the instinctual fear of ending up like her which actually is realistic if they don't self reflect and work on internal growth and healing and setting boundaries with their family members. I'm in a similar dynamic with my family I didn't end up like Rory exactly but I did have two big mental break downs and have had to pick myself up and emotionally distance myself from my parents and family, which actually was healthier for me and we have a better dynamic now. Now I'm working on being my own person doing what I want because I want to what will help me grow as a person and make me happy/content. Not what they want and expect. I've had to have some gut wrenching heart to hearts with them that didn't always end up well and had to be repeated at times but things are better now. Not perfect but better. Also letting go of the idea of perfect and what other people think is ideal and normal life has been rough but liberating.
@chryssas.556
3 жыл бұрын
@@rene3759 even if what you are saying is true there is no excuse to talk abt her like she is a horrible person when in reality I can’t see something that she did that was thatawful
@TheMarkmcr
3 жыл бұрын
@@chryssas.556 she has textbook psychotic tendencies
@patibrito8557
3 жыл бұрын
wow, this! i totally agree!
@eleanormason2647
3 жыл бұрын
Yes, I always feel that she gets too much flack. We are all flawed to some degree, but the important thing with Rory is that she'll follow up with a redemptive action. Like when she told her dad to stay away from Lorelei- to be fair to her, Christopher would always come into her life like an unreliable whirlwind but was never there when they needed him. He was never a good influence and strung Lorelei along for many years. Then when he came back at the behest of Emily he got blind drunk and tried to ruin her relationship with Luke from his own selfishness. So Rory may have gone about it in a harsh way, but she definitely had a point, and went to comfort her dad when she realised that he needed her after his dad died. I think it's fair that she decided on going to Yale, since she made a pro/con list and decided that Yale was actually better for her. I just wish they had tackled the problems that come with that- the generational wealth of certain families and how that makes them more likely to get in. I wanted Rory to refuse the interview that Richard had set up and the internship that Mitchum set up because of the blatant nepotism. When Logan got that maid in trouble by stealing from the Gilmores I so badly wanted her to tell him off, since he was blatantly using this privilege and getting people to lose their livelihoods because of his stupid life and death brigade antics. The Gilmores were fawning all over him and then immediately treated the staff like dirt because they didn't have "good breeding" or rich families. To be honest, Rory's privilege annoyed me less than Richard and Emily, because she mainly for swept up due to circumstances (couldn't get finance or scholarships like she'd tried to do), yet her grandparents actively treated the proles as dispensable
@picklecat4819
3 жыл бұрын
Rory as a character was a warning. To have balance in life.
@alyssalakey
3 жыл бұрын
Honestly, I adored her when I watched the show growing up and wished I had a relationship like that with my mom. But when I re-watched the show as an adult, it was like. Even from the first episode, she knew Dean for like, a DAY, and got angry and bratty with her mom for making her go to Chilton when SHE was the one who wanted to go there, and the reason Lorelai asked her parents (who she was ESTRANGED WITH) for money. She put aside her pride and potentially her own mental health to do that for Rory, who wanted to throw it away for a boy she’d known for a day. I understand teenage hormones, and wanting love, but for a girl who was supposed to be so academically focused that she wanted to go to Harvard, and Chilton as a stop to help her get there, she was willing to throw it away for nothing preeeetty quickly. And when I look back on that, her progression into who she became doesn’t seem all that shocking at all. So weak-minded and obsessed with men that she’ll throw away everything and devalue herself for it. I think at the time when the show came out, it was something new and refreshing and we liked seeing a character with her traits on TV because there weren’t many. She initially came off sweet and quirky and innocent and bookish. But honestly, the person with the best growth arc on GG was Jess. He had the arc Rory should have.
@trinitytay430
3 жыл бұрын
greatly put. I definitely had a new perspective when I watched the show a second time around, too.
@messyveganmama
4 ай бұрын
I thought the same thing about Jess.
@sharlenerajsingh9369
3 жыл бұрын
Remember when Rory liked Economics cause her granddad was her lecturer: she was actually doing well and enjoying the content. Also when she had financial issues and told her mom she would study business and make money? Lorelai was like “no sweety you love writing”. Lorelai should have supported her studying business and let her consider the opportunity and she would have been a lot more successful. I feel as if they wanted her to succeed so badly at journalism that they failed to let her know she can actually try a whole new major for one semester and see what happens. 🤦🏽♀️
@yurxel
Жыл бұрын
But rory said that because she didn't have money to pay for her fees at yale and Lorelai said no because she knows rory always wanted to be a journalist
@asstheticash
3 жыл бұрын
I remember when I first watched Gilmore girls and I felt the same way, devastated what happened to rory. But after many years of going back into the show, I feel like because she had everything and everyone around her always praised her, the second she got criticism, she gave up, no one prepared her for that. I am still bummed how it ended and with the decisions she made, but she even denied her privilege's when logan confronted her about it which said a lot. - absolutely love this video btw !
@Personalmeaccount
3 жыл бұрын
I liked your video but I don’t agree with some of what you took away from Gilmore Girls. Amy Sherman-Palladino always knew how she wanted Rory to end and it wasn’t necessarily to tell a burnout story. She always knew the last four words which was that Rory would get pregnant and be where her mum was when she was 16, pregnant and alone but she would have the same trajectory of using that to grow. People think Rory was great because of all the great things we hear about her as a child but from the beginning, Rory was always shown to be selfish and increasingly throughout the series and it would have happened even without her grandparents. She’s learned from her mum and the entire town of Stars Hollow which treats them like royalty, she’d always gotten everything she’d wanted even before she got to know her grandparents who only amplified her privilege. I don’t think Amy Sherman-Palladino was trying to say if you work hard at a young age you’ll burn out in adulthood because Paris worked harder than Rory but even though she wrongfully didn’t get into Harvard, she didn’t let that stop her and ended up having the choice of going to law school or medical school and intimately opening up her clinic. Ps. I’m not trying to be rude and I know this is long.
@trinitytay430
3 жыл бұрын
Hi! Thank you so much for watching my video and sharing your thoughts!! I knew that Amy Sherman-Palladino had always planned for that ending, and I think the idea of Rory having a child is great, but I don’t think that Rory’s experience with pregnancy as a single woman will exactly align with how Lorelai used it to grow. Like you said, Rory is and always has been selfish and I think that would’ve come to hurt her relationships during her pregnancy. Anyways, I always think that while show creators have their own message in mind when writing these stories, the message that viewers take from a scene or character arc can completely differ based on a person’s own experience. In this case, my take on it and what I left the show feeling like was all of this that I explained in the video! Once again, thank you so much for watching and discussing this with me! I really appreciate it and I’d love to hear your thoughts on other aspects of the show!
@savannahsmiles1797
3 жыл бұрын
@@trinitytay430 Christopher inherited $$$, so Rory will get that, and being the sole heir of the Gilmore clan, she will get that...so a very RICH single mom...raising a child, probably a girl, so the legacy can continue.
@camille8064
3 жыл бұрын
but there's a huge huge difference bet lorelai getting pregnant at 16 and rory getting pregnant at 32. i think the writers initially intended rory to get pregnant by the end of her college years but even that wouldn't have been different. lorelai literally had to work as a maid and work her way up in an inn to keep her and rory alive and functioning and also had to have the hunger of becoming a better human not only for herself but also for her child while rory is a self entitled, unethical worker who has trust funds and rich af parents to fall back on if something goes wrong in her life which she clearly does as shown in the series. and she clearly isn't a "good" person as she didn't even learn from her mistakes(having affairs with married men) . if it only occured one time with dean, it wouldn't have bothered me but she clearly didn't learn from her mistakes.
@radone168
Жыл бұрын
As an Asian with a tiger parent I did the same, but when I came into college and saw the economic inequalities between us(me being from a poorer background), I looked back to my tiger parent and realised how she put me in a +1 situation compared to her. To this date, I know I cannot afford to lose my focus because of how hard my parents have worked to put me here. Giving up is not an option, it never was, it never will be. In my opinion, she was just too rich to have a fallback option which is why she had no motivation.
@nevenaraykova2870
3 жыл бұрын
i actually love her character development, because its real. Nobodys perfect and we all make mistakes with relationships and stuff like that. I like how they didnt make her a perfect little smart town girl who grew up to be this dream woman
@trinitytay430
3 жыл бұрын
I’m glad you appreciated it!
@M.A.Y.Y
3 жыл бұрын
yeah in a way it is nice while yeah we kinda wanted to see her succeed and stuff due to her young self at the same time its nice that it wasn't completely "disneyfied" i relate so much to her spiralling character and it helps me to not dive as deep as she did
@ellagray5894
3 жыл бұрын
To be honest I liked rory’s downfall because I felt like it was supposed to be a cautionary tale. Like, college and school aren’t everything. Enjoy life while u can. As someone with a tiger mom, it’s really refreshing to see how that can end up leaving you burnt out. It makes me feel less guilty about taking some time, and enjoying my youth while I can
@amberdinsmore8856
3 жыл бұрын
I think stealing the yacht, getting arrested, and dropping out of Yale was more than just Logan's dad telling her she didn't have it as a journalist. She had just been told that she wasn't good enough for Logan's family. She didn't have the proper upbringing. The way she was brought up was beneath them and they said that to her face. Then you have someone like Logan's dad who is a big deal in the place you want to work telling her she isn't a good enough journalist. I think I would break too. Don't know if I would drop out of college because of it but I can understand her feeling lost.
@suamhernandez
3 жыл бұрын
There is no downfall of Rory. It's just life happening. She is a real character and I always liked that. The thing here is that perhaps we idealized her at such a young age when she barely had chances of being wrong.
@beauCM
3 жыл бұрын
Great video! I do think of Emily as the kind of ultimate villain in the series. She's the embodiment of white privilege, elitism, and classism. But Emily is also trapped in a patriarchal structure, which I think is the root cause of some of her worst traits. Lorelai, for the most part, was able to break free from those structures and built her life on rejecting and resenting them. Rory was caught in the middle of this relationship, and I think she absorbed the worst traits of her mother and her grandmother. She got impulsiveness and selfishness from her mother, and entitlement from her grandmother. It led to a stunted adult life that lacked true responsibility and drive. Rory is basically the victim of the 'Gilmore Girls' decades long feud. Caught in the middle between a rock and a hard place, she got squished.
@trinitytay430
3 жыл бұрын
Great analysis of emily!
@srichirps
2 жыл бұрын
Absolutely right!!! Also what I feel worst abt the show is Emily, as bad as she is, always wins in her manipulative techniques. She never acknowledges/accepts her flaws....she is never ready to see her daughter's perspective and then she blames Lorelai for being the result of her own manipulative and super controlling attitude! And who else do we see these character traits in? Of crs...everyone's beloved Rory!!!
@Hamza_Khan_Journey
2 жыл бұрын
I’m a bit of a latecomer to the world of Gilmore girls, only started watching it like October of 2021 but I’m glad because I understand as I graduated high school this year and I’m going to uni soon. Her downward spiral in a way was one of life’s greatest lessons, never expect too much beyond your capabilities, just live in the moment and learn as you go along. Her biggest downfall was to achieve perfection in every snippet of her life, and the way the writers and producers of the show built that story line was very smart because it made the fans and the characters within the show realize that she wasn’t the “perfect Rory” everyone thought she ought to be.
@meghnat1471
3 жыл бұрын
it was so strange watching gilmore girls because as an Indian CBSE 12th grader having chosen science, rory was so relatable. the entire first season, i identified with her very much, and by the time we reach seasons 4 to the end, it was so hard to watch because not only did she seem like a totally unrelatable stranger, but she slept with a married man and did nothing to make it better, stole a boat with no remorse, couldn't take criticism for toffee, and even though she was handed everything on a silver platter she never recognized how lucky she was, taking it for granted instead. There's a little hope for her at the end of the revival, but in the revival she's so entitled she goes to an interview with no ideas or pitches or anything and just expects them to take her and then actually got angry with them for taking her hopes up, and then proceeds to complain she's bankrupt, not to mention she falls asleep in an interview. she sleeps with yet another engaged, soon to be married man while cheating on her boyfriend. the series got difficult to watch because in the beginning i wanted to be her and in the end i wanted to be anything but.
@trinitytay430
3 жыл бұрын
exactly!!!
@scriptersplash5923
3 жыл бұрын
Thank You, Thank you, THANK YOU! For making this! Like you, I heavily related Rory in the beginning seasons of Gilmore Girls. But the further I got into the show, the more I was ashamed of liking and relating to her character. Even now while I rewatch it, I notice these little hints (intentional or not, they are there) that Rory was destined to fail. Like you said, when she was in highschool, she was just a kid. She was still figuring things out. But college? That's a huge no no. Also her relationships never really sat with me the right way. Dean was alright at first, but the further into their relationship it got worse, way worse. The minute dean got married he should have been outta there. After she slept with Dean, I was frustrated and heartbroken beyond belief. The entire time I was thinking "What that's not rory, that can't be rory!!" But little did I know... she'd get even worse. I also got frustrated when she kissed Jess when she was still with Dean. Like GOD JUST BREAK UP PLEASE. Jess wasn't good at the beginning, but later, he figured his crap out. Heck, HE was the one who told Rory to figure it out when she dropped out of Yale. When everyone else, even Lorelai, couldn't get her back into school, Jess did. And that's why I love Jess's character, he actually had some legitimate character development and grew from his mistakes. Logan too, I didn't like. At first I thought he was alright, but later on it just showed how he in a way influenced Rory's actions. Of course it wasn't all his fault, he was just living life how he thought he should. But in turn that messed up Rory's perception of life as well. The criticism really annoyed me as well, I might've been just projecting onto Rory but, I just got so mad when she dropped everything just because of that one comment. Overall I think Rory teaches me to be aware of your surroundings, background, and privilege, accepting criticism, and just realizing that yeah sometimes I don't have it all figured out, and that's okay, but that doesn't mean I should just drop everything the second I mess up. Motivation is hard to find sometimes, but finding a way to pick yourself up and move on is really really important in life, and sometimes it can make or break your career. As cliche as it sounds, just at least keep trying and never give up. This turned out too long... but thanks for the video and you got a sub from me!
@trinitytay430
3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for this comment! You worded everything so well and I’m glad that another person feels the same frustration I do!!!
@user-fq7ik7gy4g
3 жыл бұрын
After seeing the other video, I come here to say that I don't think it's all Lorelai's fault. She kept her away from her grandparents for her to earn the things she wanted, to keep her away from all that privelege. She told her she could do anything to encorauge her to chase her dreams, but finally it backfired because when she was introduced to her grandparents world, all that luxury and self esteem came out to be a horrible combination. Conclusion: I think that if Rory wasn't as exposed to that privileged life as she actually was everything would have been different.
@FC-hj9ub
2 жыл бұрын
Never was Rory awkward. And stop pretending it's improper for teenagers to have sex, within normal boundaries they should be having sex. What's weird is her having sex with a married ex.
@Perfectlyvirtual
3 жыл бұрын
I don’t know if it’s intentional, but I feel like it was this whole idea that she’s from two worlds so she refuses to admit she comes from privileged on top of the fact that she is constantly told by almost everyone that she’s perfect and can’t do anything wrong and no one tells her no Edit: I almost forgot about her ditching her moms graduation to go hang out with Jess and I know the whole thing with the bus, but like there’s no way most people would go to New York on the same day their mom is going through something so important.
@poslednisoud
3 жыл бұрын
Rewatching this series after years I now have a new perspective. Lorelai and Rory are kids trapped in adult bodies. The show contrasts fun loving Girls with boring Parents but every single time Girls encounter any financial difficulty their first and last solution is to go to somebody rich, generaly Parents, to extract the money from that boring posh lifestyle they hate so much while being annoyed to even have to interact with Parents from time to time in return.
@withinwithout6263
3 жыл бұрын
Lorelai and Rory are worlds apart though. Lorelai only went to her parents because she couldn’t get the money Chilton needed immediately. She thought she’d have more time. She also paid back EVERYTHING to her parents, even though doing so jeopardised her ability to buy the Dragonfly Inn, something she’d been working toward for so long, but would have put off just to not leech from her parents. When she needed a loan to fix her house, she wouldn’t accept money from her parents, she tried every which way to secure a loan by herself. In the end she settled for Emily co-signing the loan since she wouldn’t be approved for one any other way, but paid it all herself. Rory is happy to endlessly take and receive, and it never even occurs to her pay anyone back or be self-sufficient. Lorelai and Jess are far more alike in that regard, while Rory is just like her grandmother.
@poslednisoud
3 жыл бұрын
@@withinwithout6263 Even so, Lorelai is still being super dramatic about it and never considers not spending the money. Does Rory have to go to Chilton? No, but it would help her greatly. Can we afford it? No, but we really want her to go to a good school so let's borrow money. Do they want an interest? No, just to spend the time with us once a week. So let's bitch and moan about it every time we go there and not even hide our distain very well. There are people who don't have giant amounts of money available to them every time hard times come. They have to sell their houses, work an extra job or do other very unpleasant things to make do. Or, and that's something Lorelai never does, just give up the stuff she would like to have but can't afford like Chilton for example. As a poor fecker myself I find it hard to sympatize with her when she still can have most of what she wants and still complains about the bare minimum she has to do for it.
@withinwithout6263
3 жыл бұрын
@@poslednisoud It kind of sounds like you’re committed to hating the characters no matter what so I don’t see any point in countering anything you’ve said. Suffice it to say, I disagree. And yeah, people can get by without a lot, but it’s understandable to want to give your kids every advantage you never had. I’d say that’s universal.
@poslednisoud
3 жыл бұрын
@@withinwithout6263 I never said I hate them, this show is very important part of my childhood, I just grew older and more experinced and concluded I don't like this one aspect of their characters. I never said Lorelai shouldn't go to her parents only that I dislike how she is openly antagonistic towards her parents, their lifestyle and friends despite benefiting from their wealth. I can respect her sticking to her original idea and cut off all ties, hate her parents and accepting she can't afford a good school and Rory has to work hard as she did. I can respect her swallowing her pride, as I would, asking for the money and spending one evening a week showing respect to people she dislikes. She chose the third option, taking the money and acting like a unhappy five year old when she has to give something back. And don't take me wrong, I find people like RIchard and Emily highly unpleasant to be in a presence of, I just don't throw it in their face, especially when I want something from them.
@greciaventura7149
3 жыл бұрын
Rory became burnout because of her grandparents and mother. She was always praise and she never learned how to fail. Whenever she did, her relatives would only gloat her with compliments.
@zarataylor6260
3 жыл бұрын
4:20 I think a big reason was because her mother and other people always told her that EVERYONE loves her. It led to her not being able to take any criticism and it even might have meant she felt like she wouldn’t get into trouble for bad behaviour. Being told that everyone in your life loves you would make you full of yourself and gave her the impression that she was better than other people, which is he she cheated and thought she was worth making people unhappy. Just a thought, let me know what you think.
@trinitytay430
3 жыл бұрын
you’re so right!!
@elenakalliste
3 жыл бұрын
Watching her unravel was unbearable, I couldn’t even finish the revival because I was concerned I would break my TV by trying to throw a remote at her head. The writing got objectively worse, but like you said she just became more like Emily and less like Lorelei. It’s just odd to rebel against your mother in young adulthood instead of as a teenager, and to rebel against a parent by becoming more like a grandparent. And to see an ambitious and likeable nerd turn into an aimless and immature adult is just too on the nose.
@trinitytay430
3 жыл бұрын
Yes. The revival was hard to get through. I hadn't really watched it since it came out but I reviewed some of the content when making this video and I was sent back into the stage of denial all over again.
@Morgan-gb5no
2 жыл бұрын
Can we just talk about they way she treated Lane...
@aprilmichel7816
2 жыл бұрын
I relate to Rory in a lot of ways. I think what saved me from going full-blown Rory Gilmore route (aside from not being born into wealth) is that I was always insecure in spite of being the gifted child, so it was much easier to accept that I am just a regular, perhaps sligthly above-average student and a dumbass human being. I just wish it truly sank in before I wasted four years of my life in college I haven't finished. I can relate to the feeling of frustration when what you have been told your whole life is challenged and eventually turns out not to be true. I think this is one of the things many people don't touch on when discussing Rory; she was spoonfed the idea that she is special and unique by people she loved and trusted - of course she believed it. Why wouldn't she? And I bet she felt betrayed when she realised she had been essentially lied to, because being special never came with the caveat that she will have to work for it one day. It's realistic that she blew up, started acting out, became mean to people who were (at that moment) trying to help; it doesn't excuse her actions but it does make it make sense, and we may not like it but a part of the blame should be also diverted to the people that neglected to tell and teach her that 'being special' isn't enough, that things don't always go the way we planned, and that hard work and being able to apply oneself past what is expected of them is instrumental. One thing I never see people talk about is how her growing up without a father possibly affected her and if it could be in any way tied to her... pretty gross treatment of her partners.
@jaynehogue2459
3 жыл бұрын
I think Roy was always and entitled selfish person who never learned. She was always told she is perfect and never given any kind of criticism to help her grow. When she was given criticism she couldn't handle it. But her character Arc in the year of a life did not surprise me one bit because of how she was raised.
@teddy9770
3 жыл бұрын
She DIDN'T lose out on a social life. She had multiple boyfriends, spent time with her friends, was involved in every social occasion and event in the town, spent tons of time with her mom and even saw her grandparents often. Frankly, as a former student workaholic myself, I never got how she managed to do all that and still "study all the time". She clearly didn't. The reason she failed later wasn't that she didn't have a social life as a teen. She was constantly told how perfect she was, never really struggled with anything and later became lazy, entitled and selfish. I agree with the second half of your video.
@candyc3314
3 жыл бұрын
I think Rory having her breakdown made her character a lot more realistic. I'm very much similar to her in the sense I had big expectations about myself at such a young age and was naturally gifted at a lot of things. we both had breakdowns at the same time in our lives and became burned out. Striving for perfection or excellence all your life often leads to things like this, especially when you never take time for yourself. Hitting one inconvenience can break everything for you. I hope her character is able to overcome the rut that she's in if they ever decide to make anymore episodes.
@tessy28
3 жыл бұрын
This makes me glad I was a late bloomer. I fucked up so much of my teenage years and early 20's but now doing extremely well at 25. It's good to go through all the bullshit development and growth when your're younger and then be successful when your're older when it actually counts.
@stonecameraa
3 жыл бұрын
I think the reason she ended up being easily burnt out is because she genuinely never really had to work hard. She always had her mom & grandparents to fall back on. They never really fully forced her to be a adult or actually pushed her. Because in everyone’s eyes she could do no wrong.
@chrisf8855
Жыл бұрын
I couldn't believe that Rory went to Las Vegas and became a strip club dancer in season 8. And then that night when she was in a drug-induced daze, stole a Porsche, and drove it through a Golden Corral. Glad she went to drug rehab and got clean.
@lauragem796
Жыл бұрын
I like your version of Rory more than the 'writers'.
@chrisf8855
Жыл бұрын
@@lauragem796 thanks :)
@kaylaniitsuma7112
3 жыл бұрын
I love this show because no character is perfect. They all have their own flaws, Just like real people. I think it's more realistic. People get upset when stories don't have a 'good ending' and are quick to criticize, but I think that the show really captured them in a way that is a lot more human than fiction.
@KittenCasserole
3 жыл бұрын
I really enjoyed this video, good job. It’s so amazing that people are still finding this show. I was 15 when it first aired. I think it’s so cool that you have watched it at your age. Don’t worry too much about turning into Rory, you are your own person and you will follow a path in life that you choose.
@trinitytay430
3 жыл бұрын
Thank you!!
@skrittle555
2 жыл бұрын
as someone who also used to idolize young rory, i can't help but see myself in her story arc. the gifted child, who was always miles ahead of everyone in her class. then she gets to a prestigious college, and well, it's kind of like a slap in the face. because everyone there is "the gifted child." you go from being a big fish in a small pond, to a mediocre small fry in an ocean. suddenly, nothing you do seems good enough, even if it is your best. and rory's entire identity was her academic career. she had nothing left to go to and her identity kind of fell apart. now she's wandering aimlessly, a womanchild with no real life skills. i myself have learned to cultivate a sense of self worth that does not depend on my achievements. i am a good cook who recovered from an eating disorder, i am a cat mom, i am passionate about fashion, esthetics, and music. i love working out, reading, and spending quality time with my partner who lifts me up on my darkest days. rory lived an incredibly sheltered life, yes, but i think a lot of people forget that her entire identity was college prep. all of her other interests, passions, and hobbies just fell away as time went on. and she was so burned out with trying to please everyone and was never able to make the little mistakes that kids make, so she grew up to make the big adult mistakes. i think it's extremely good writing personally and i feel so much for rory. i would really like for the show to come back again and see that maybe rory's baby is her wakeup call. but it hurts in a sort of cosmic sense that she could become strong again only for someone else and not for herself. thank you for coming to my tedtalk lmao
@saraangel6696
3 жыл бұрын
She proved Mitchum and Shira Huntzberger right at the end. Also, no one told her she could do party planning? She was GREAT at it.
@Heather.b2
3 жыл бұрын
Let’s be honest, Rory started falling apart when she cut her hair and then DEFINITELY WHEN SHE GOT BANGS
@teeemkay
8 ай бұрын
It was kind of gratifying to see Rory fail so spectacularly at the end of season 7 (when she turned down an amazing newspaper job because she just assumed she'd get this exclusive fellowship), and in the revival (when she was one trainwreck after another). Rory had everything handed to her, and she treated it as if she deserved it more because she'd worked harder than other people to get it. She probably got into Harvard on the strength of her sob story about being the daughter of a single mom who grew up in a one-room shack, because beyond her grades she did not have much else; it never made any sense why Paris - who did do All The Things - didn't get in.
@enriquezericka2583
11 ай бұрын
As an early child achiever, this is really relatable. I now struggle in Highschool since I lack social skills. I'm happy in my decision for taking a small step back and try to improve skills equally. But rn I focus more on my social skills and still tries not to fail in academics.
@nicoleolazaba4909
3 жыл бұрын
Even Alexis Bledel (actress who plays Rory) was shocked when she saw the script for season 4 since thats when her character started to downfall. She also wanted Rory to have a better storyline in Gilmore Girls: Year in the Life.
@trinitytay430
3 жыл бұрын
yeah I remember seeing this in an interview!!
@nicoleolazaba4909
3 жыл бұрын
@@trinitytay430 yes!! also loved the video!!
@trinitytay430
3 жыл бұрын
thank you so much!
@yuli-zn3dp
2 жыл бұрын
Rory was never a ‘good person’. She was selfish, self absorbed, and very spoiled. I thought that over the seasons she will evolve to the better, but the writers just made her worst.
@helenholt1161
2 жыл бұрын
Rory turned out the way she did because she was always treated as special, by her family, her mother, by half the town. She was expected to have a magical life. But no one told her that that life would only come with hard work. She thought it would fall into her lap like so much of her earlier good fortune had.
@rebecafortinobento3322
3 жыл бұрын
the first warning sign for me was when she was willing to drop Chilton for Dean, a guy SHE HAD JUST MET
@rafaeladarozmondelli2860
3 жыл бұрын
i think it was a good idea to make her fall in her face a little. as someone who also has a personality and objectives similar to rory's i think its cool to make people realize that even though you're really smart you can have your bad moments and doubt youself because thats super normal and it happened to me. BUT it really amazes me that they didnt make a reflection and made her get better and accept that she wasnt going to be perfect always but that didnt mean her futute was going to be AWFUL. besides that being a bad message, why would you want to ruin your MAIN CHARACTER like that i just dont get it
@trinitytay430
3 жыл бұрын
exactly!! to me the lessons Rory is SUPPOSED to be learning seem pointless when she never seems to recover from the consequences she received for her flawed actions
@marywallace3378
3 жыл бұрын
I’m conflicted about *that scene* with Mitchum. I understand Rory needs to learn how to receive criticism, especially as an aspiring journalist, but to me, Mitchum did not give her any valid or constructive criticism. He just told her “you don’t got what it takes to be in this business.” Did she overreact? Maybe. But imagine working so hard your entire life towards this dream and having the biggest name in the industry you want to break into tell you that you don’t have what it takes. She was only 20-21 at the time and of course her upbringing didn’t prepare her to hear something like that. I actually think her dropping out was a nice twist. And to be fair, not everyone coddled her when she dropped out-Lorelai flat out refused to support Rory until she went back to school. And it was great when Jess came back and told her to get her shit together and go back to school lol. Could the whole thing have been written better? Most definitely. But I don’t think it’s this cry baby moment that everyone makes it out to be.
@marywallace3378
3 жыл бұрын
As for the rest of the series and the revival-yeah they totally destroyed her character
@ennuiblue4295
3 жыл бұрын
It kind of reinforced the theory for me he only gave her the internship to discourage her, because the family didn't like her. A real leader would have said 'here's where you seem weak, this is how I think you can improve'. He clearly wasn't trying to help her 🤔
@marywallace3378
3 жыл бұрын
@@ennuiblue4295 exactly! There was nothing constructive about his comments at all. And you could tell Rory was trying her best.
@trinitytay430
3 жыл бұрын
@@marywallace3378 That's why I wish Rory would've fought back more instead of going off and getting into trouble! She KNEW that she was doing a great job, so why didn't she stand up to Mitchum? I will always dislike that situation so much. I hated his character, too! So evil!
@savannahsmiles1797
3 жыл бұрын
@@trinitytay430 very good at manipulation for his intended outcome.
@SignoftheMagi
3 ай бұрын
From the first episode to the last, we are introduced to Rory's selfish, privledged behavior. When you look past the books, the looks and the boys she chased, you see in the very first season how petty and self absorbed she is. She is less shy and more snobbish. And as the show goes on, she doesn't improve. Add in an immature mother, a town full of enablers and the toxic nightmare that is Emily, and Rory is basically a failure in the making. If anything, Paris is the girl people wanted Rory to be. The writers never ruined Rory. She was created to be this way since day one, because in the end the story was really about Lorelei and her redemption.
@CamilaGonzalez-xl7bn
Жыл бұрын
I actually NEEDED this video. I'm so agree with you. Rory's character made me think Sooo much and I never expected that end. 🥺
@childofwonder.8
3 жыл бұрын
I feel like it’s kinda important that her character fell like that, it’s just how that stuff kinda progresses when you don’t learn how to overcome it when you’re younger. In the revival I wish we got to see her become a mom because I feel like it would have given her a goal as well as the book to make something of herself and achieve again.
@Bibirallie
Жыл бұрын
I actually ended up in the same path as Rory. Super burned out after being school obsessed in my teen years.
@actionaccount8307
Жыл бұрын
i hope you are well now. there are really problems with that burn out thing for people who just learned because it was expected. it can be very toxic.
@jadaroberts140
7 ай бұрын
I think she was able to avoid the typical teenage things and struggles when she was younger because she was so smart, that when she got to adulthood and things didn't come as easy, she didn't know how to react and just crumbled. I don't think its meant to show that every person who tries hard in school at a young age will burn out, but that coupled with her lack of social life and the high standards she put on herself as well as the standards she perceived from others, made it hard to self motivate when nobody was pushing her and things got harder. life in general is so unpredictable and that just showed in her rebellious stage. she didn't get the stereotypical teen rebellion and found it as an adult.
@andiefisher5646
3 жыл бұрын
For the entirety of Rory's struggles, I kept thinking they had to be setting up all of her shitty behavior for her to have this massive reckoning and redemption arc to become the person we all wanted her to be. There were these glimpses she had of this vision of her future self (I'm thinking of this scene in Teach Me Tonight when she's talking with Jess if she can actually be brave and gritty enough to be like Christiane Amanpour) and I always thought *that* is the Rory we are eventually going to get back when she shrugs off all these layers of cloudiness and pretension. I still want to believe that that was the original vision of the writers and that it just got lost with all the Gilmore Girls BS that happened. They did her such a major disservice.
@theresagarza1578
3 жыл бұрын
I believe the show was meant to make you think. Amy Sherman Palladino is an intelligent writer, so it wouldn't surprise me if she was exploring deeper themes through the characters of Gilmore Girls. Let's just say some of us who have already lived through those years in our lives have experienced, or at least witnessed, misadventures parallel to Rory's. And Lorelei's. And Luke's. And Christopher's. And Emily's. And Richard's. You get the point. There are lessons to be learned, take what you will, apply it if it works for you, throw it out if it doesn't. Thank you for sharing your thoughts, and best wishes for your future.
@MinkaSchlossberger4ever
2 жыл бұрын
That is so true, my thoughts exactly! Thank You dir putting it into word's!
@brunanizer2181
3 жыл бұрын
You're totally right, I've never thought about it that way! I've just finished GG again and what you said about she becoming more Emily and less Lorelai is so true.
@giovannagamas9214
2 жыл бұрын
She also wouldn't accept that when she entered Chilton her grades weren't as great as they used to be and she actually made a tantrum in class because she arrived late and so she couldn't the exam. Which shows she really couldn't hear no, in a sense.
@cratcliff8820
3 жыл бұрын
Rory wasn’t burnt out. She was just a spoilt brat. I hated what the original writer did to Logan’s character in the revival more than I hated what happened with Rory, though. She was entitled and headed down that path earlier on. Logan was actually a good person, albeit a bit reckless, especially at the end of the original series. He never would’ve kept a fiancé and Rory on the side but the original writer was selfish and wanted it to be HER story rather than natural development for the characters. The revival was going to be the final season with them in college had she been on the staff at that time.
@silviap6583
3 жыл бұрын
Totally agree with this but I think the writers were fully aware of the downfall of Rory and they made it clear multiple times in my opinion. Literally every time Jess would appear, even in the revival, it showed how much he had done and how far he had come (thanks to her, he says) whereas Rory was way behind every time. I think that's the writers telling Rory "you fucked up big time, you could've been there instead you're here licking your wounds for whatever reason". I also think that perhaps what's missing from this analysis is when the story is set. I think Rory represents a generation (my generation in fact, I was very close to Rory's age when it started) that was so eager to do things with their future and lived through the discovery of so many different things without realising it was happening. Some of us were able to jump at the opportunities and some got lost and confused and ended up empty ended, 30+ still trying to build any sort of career and chasing their lifelong dreams. I don't think Gilmore Girls is a TV show that can truly speak for the new generation because the new generation is lightyears ahead. So I think that the burnout is a good theory to be honest (many people I know, including me, went through that in our late 20s) but I don't think it'll be applicable for the new generation and I wouldn't worry if I were you 😂
@leasmith5908
3 жыл бұрын
I heard somewhere that the writers decided to make Rory make these mistakes because she was too “perfect” in the first season or 2, but the writers made her make way too many mistakes. She could have been such a great role model smh
@alinanicoleta9317
2 жыл бұрын
So true!!!
@anchigans
2 жыл бұрын
Rory is relatable to me at some extend. I’d dedicated to school a lot but you couldn’t always get everything you want. Sometimes you just have to fail to learn that way isn’t right. It took me more than three years to bounce back. In fact, I have been still working on it. It takes time to literally heal your broken dream and heart, and Importantly, to accept who you really were and are. Everyone has one’s own rhythm of life. Finally, I actually love Rory’s story
@goosiesmoosies
2 жыл бұрын
I will say that I also relate a lot to Rory. I was a terrible elementary school student, but hit my stride in high school. My mom and my grandpa (only close family) truly believed I was destined for greatness. Unfortunately, a combination of depression, trauma and an autoimmune disorder (undiagnosed until I was 30) meant that my university days were mediocre at best and often way worse than that. I became the failed millenial in every possible sense. At my lowest, I remember my grandfather remarking to his friends in front of me how stupid I had been to waste my college fund on a year of general studies with nothing to show for it. Over the years, they've finally accepted me for my failings, and seen that at least some of it wasn't entirely my own fault, but I'm still haunted. I started watching the show again and was reminded of that. I hated Rory in 2016 when I watched the revival, and I'm sure it's because I saw myself in her. In a way, though, I think Gilmore Girls was always about that cycle. The pressure and intensity of being the prized only child and the realization that you can't be the thing your parent(s) and even you wanted yourself to be. Letting people down is an inevitable part of becoming yourself, and getting there is never without mistakes. I don't like the mistakes she made, but it's clear that as the story progresses, Rory is having the same crisis her mother did, only 16 years later in her own life than Lorelai. At least thematically. Not becoming the thing she was destined to be, and having to start fresh. I don't think it's pleasant to watch, but there's truth in Rory's story, and maybe part of forgiving her downfall is forgiving ourselves for our own failures.
@zachharris3040
3 жыл бұрын
Let's be honest, Emily was a great character but why is everyone calling her a queen? She has that very strange transformation in the 4 part series but honestly that was a head scratcher. I don't think Richard was the only thing keeping Emily act stuck up and privileged in the original series but that's what they kind of point toward in the follow up, as if her true self is finally coming out. It just doesn't seem believable. And I think all fans can tell the writers weren't that great at character development, almost with any of them. I honestly think the show got worse because they felt like it couldn't get stale and as a result it took a nose dive. But on Emily, she just isn't a likeable character and that's what made her a great character, until they changed that.
@trinitytay430
3 жыл бұрын
I've found through comments on this video that I'm part of a small population of fans that actually liked Emily hahaha. I agree that she has A LOT of flaws and that they don't necessarily provide for a fun presence on-screen but I always enjoyed watching her plots and schemes unravel. I guess that's me feeding into what the writers wanted haha. On the "queen" thing, I was referring to the fact that she generally sees herself as a queen. She wore the pants in the relationship with Richard and I always just thought that's what Emily thought of herself as! Thanks so much for this comment and leaving your thoughts!
@likeapuppy-m7f
Ай бұрын
When everyone expects you to be perfect all the time, act like an adult even when you are a teenager, always the one more "adult" among your peers, listen to your mother's problems and start to be a mother to your own mother, when you get older you start to question whether that person is you or not. Like it is really you or its all other peoples expectations. You start to question your motives. Because lets face it, NO kid wants to be that stressed when they are growing up, sometimes you want to mess it up a little bit. If you are not open to make mistakes when you are growing up, it breaks you when you actually make a mistake when you get older. When you were little, you had this idea about life; you were naive but then feel stupid for being naive. That kinda breaks you as a person. I think alsa being a good girl image makes people be more harsh on you when you make mistakes. Everyone gets corrupted a little bit while growing up, but when people look at you with expectations for your whole life, they want you to see a great journalist, or in my case, a great lawyer, but in your inside, you just do not know who you are because of all that studying and suppressing emotions.
@angie-up2cs
3 жыл бұрын
I feel like Rory must have lied or denied to Lorelei about a million times in the series.
@trinitytay430
3 жыл бұрын
hahaha yeah she did keep A LOT from her
@andressabade8581
3 жыл бұрын
Sorry, but I have to disagree with you on this one. She is not a horrible person, she’s just a person, like everyone else. The show (not considering A year in the life) shows her from 16 to 23, and you don’t expect her to mess up? To disappoint someone, to feel lost and overwhelmed by everything? Her development throughout the seven seasons was just perfect and shows a very relatable character.
@scribbly2983
2 жыл бұрын
I want to let all the ambitious kids out there know that there are healthy ways to take a step back without destroying your life. It's not an all or nothing proposition.
@myname203
2 жыл бұрын
I feel like "downfall" is a strong word. Taking odd jobs and trying and failing at different stuff is kind of the path of a normal adult. The show didn't conclude with her on crack or something....
@aprioriontoast704
2 жыл бұрын
The burnout is actually really realistic, two of my sisters went through the same thing both ended up taking over a year out of school. One got straight A's in all subjects but then took two years out , they even give up their strict exercise and diet routine. Burnout is real.
@Booga04
4 ай бұрын
im gonna be real, even though rorys outcome wasnt satisfying, i dont think it was badly written in the sense that it was realistic. at least i can relate a lot to it. i was an extremely hard working student and it just,,, didnt matter? like i had great grades, graduated as an honors student, and now i work in a job that has nothing to do with my education whatsoever. and i feel so incredibly burnt out from existing nearly all of the time because of the mentality that i need to work myself to death for anything to matter. my parents taught me that having bad grades meant i was a failure as a person and didnt deserve any love. also having not had a social life myself because of worrying about school all of the time i completely relate to taking things to the extreme once i graduated. i did a lot of things i regret now. so again though rorys story wasnt satisfying whatsoever to me it was very real. like i get it
@beckycollins8923
2 жыл бұрын
Like the majority of our generation, Rory also is sensitive and restless. She kind of embodies our culture and how many millennials want fulfillment in work, instant success and rewards, etc.
@Nikephorus
7 ай бұрын
It's been a while, but I recall noticing a change in Rory's personality. I thought it might be a temporary phase, expecting her to go off the rails and then pull herself back together. However, she never did, and it turned out she's not a great person.
@lehit7961
3 ай бұрын
Rory’s journey is reversed of her mom’s: Lorelai was born into wealth, became a rebellious teen, and then had to mature because of an unexpected pregnancy. Rory was born “poor” (not really, but in the language of the show), was a “good kid”, and only rebelled when she became an adult in college. It seems that’s sort of the theme of the show, that there’s no ideal form of parenting or parents, but rather that kids find their way eventually. But for Rory, the writers just couldn’t (or wouldn’t) adapt, and that ultimately destroyed the character. If the storyline of the revival was in season 7, when Rory was still in college, it wouldn’t have been a satisfying end, but it would still make somewhat sense. She rebelled, lost opportunities along the way, and now has to deal with it. The whole cycle repeats itself kind of thing, writers love it. But in the revival she’s in her 30s, presumably she should’ve worked through that. But the writers denied this character any growth so they could fulfill the storyline they wanted from a decade before, ignoring that the original show ends positively for her. I think we as fans reflect too much on these characters and the writers’ choices because we like to find meaning in the stuff we like. Yes, Rory was selfish, privileged, often took things for granted, all of that is true. But to think that the revival ended the way it did because of “realism” or that Rory was always intended to fail misses that those were never themes of this show, she was never truly confronted for her shortcomings. The real story here is that writers had an idea, haphazardly tried to develop it, couldn’t finish it the first time, then tried to do it again a decade later. They sacrificed the character for a storyline that is not even that interesting or unique. They wanted a bittersweet ending, but in the end it was just bitter.
@lowquality49
3 жыл бұрын
rory in season one was so precious to me
@muzzy562
3 жыл бұрын
Although I understand your worries about the message around her "burnout", I think the writers very intentionally made her character degress in order to explore the effects of rich+white privilege which underpins Rory's successes (I hope you're never in the same situation as her, and I am sending you luck for your future
@brynevans3817
2 жыл бұрын
it’s important to remember that the character is only the example of the writer’s point. just because you relate to a fictional character does not mean you are her or will be just like her.
@lylaa.28
Жыл бұрын
I don’t think Rory was selfish or a bad character, I think they were just trying to show teenagers and young adults make mistakes and stories don’t always end in a fairytale ending. I personally really liked what they did with her character.
@isavargas1
Жыл бұрын
So you liked how Rory literally didn’t learned from her mistakes? Cuz she stayed basically the same, just older.
@lylaa.28
Жыл бұрын
@@isavargas1that’s exactly what I meant thanks for clarifying that 😃
@kate___lynch
2 жыл бұрын
I saw someone say a comment that I think describes best the problem with Rory when she left Yale ‘Rory dropping out of Yale when just one person DID NOT worship her is not relatable because some of us just can’t afford to drop everything we worked for.’ Rory was barely ever criticised. She always had everything she wanted. She never got a ‘no’, and when she finally did, she didn’t like it (like when Lorelai called her out for sleeping with a married man). And in the end she STILL ended up getting what she wanted (she just carried on dating him). She was worshipped by the whole town even when she was in the wrong, even her mom covered all of her mistakes. I feel like things went downhill when she slept with Dean. Ok, let’s say the writers wanted to make her flawed after so many years of being totally perfect. In that case, after what she did, she should have been followed by some sort of character development. BUT NO! Not only does she make a married innocent girl Lindsay suffer from this ‘mistake’, she GETS ON TO DATE DEAN. What the actual hell. She doesn’t bear any consequences for her actions WHATSOEVER. Everyone just forgets about it like it’s fine. That was probably the biggest problem of the show. That should not have happened. She should have apologised to Lindsay and do anything BUT DATE DEAN again. That ‘mistake’ was completely pointless. Another thing is that she never recognised or appreciated her privilege. She always wanted to be ‘self made’ and independent like her mother, but she was the complete opposite. She always had a safe spot (her grandparents) who she could stay with, who would pay for anything, who would solve any of her problems instead of her solving it for herself like Lorelai did. And while that sounds like a positive thing for a child (having a safe place), she was not a child anymore when she just decided to live with them!! I understand she needed support, but seriously, she’s 21, an adult, and she DROPS OUT of one of the most prestigious universities out there because she can’t take a ‘no’ from someone she doesn’t even like and respect in the first place. What kind of childish response is that? I blame that she was never in the ‘wrong’ her whole life, as I said previously. All her mistakes were covered up, she never went through character development where you make a mistake, you realise it’s a mistake and you suffer the consequences and you take action to not make that mistake again and do the right thing in the future. Remember when she was with Jess and they got into a little car accident, and Jess got ALL the blame, even though it was also her who asked to keep driving and it happened by accident? Exactly. Remember when Rory and Dean broke up and the whole freaking town started to hate Dean? What was up with that?! So yeah.. these are my thoughts.
@zomacchy16
Жыл бұрын
i read the whole thing but you seem to be focusing only on dean. She treated everyone horribly. Her mom too. Not just in season 4 but all seasons 1-7.
@chuckbass3641
2 жыл бұрын
First & only critic, Rory was an icon to boys and girls. As a gay boy in middle school, I saw myself as an amalgam of Rory's book smarts and Emily's taste and class with Logan Huntzberger as my future hubby.
@tati79ana
3 жыл бұрын
I understand and agree with all your points regarding Rory's self-absorbed personality. However, I really wish people would understand that dropping out of college, being jobless and back to living with your parents at 32 is not hitting rock bottom. It can happen. In fact, it is more common than you would think. Having everything figured out by the time you are 30 is a blessing... Or not. When you hit 30, you will understand what I mean. ;)
@despoinavenianaki7674
3 жыл бұрын
Yeah.. well I wouldn’t call her horrible or monster… it’s nice because she’s presented like a real human being with her own breakdowns and “difficult” periods in life. After all, we should not forget that she’s a teenager who’s supposed to have a couple of meltdowns once in a while🥰
@gabriellenordine7367
2 жыл бұрын
I totally agree but it was also Lorelei‘s fault she never stopped telling Rory she’s amazing and can do no wrong. But also a lot of that came from the grandparents too like the whole ballet review when she literally ends this girls career and call her fat in a Yale article and her grandparents praised her THATS what made me sick (I’m a dancer) I just wished she would’ve stayed the Rory we love
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