I think the real reason Rhaenyra wanted Nettles killed had less to do with her affair with Daemon and more to do with the fact that she bonded with Sheepstealer without magic or any apparent Valyrian heritage presented a serious threat to her rule
@princedaemontargaryen4971
2 жыл бұрын
I’m pretty sure Nettles did have mixed Valyrian blood but didn’t look or have 100% Valyrian traits.
@LizardsLore
2 жыл бұрын
Nettles was considered Dragonseed
@codyparker4742
Жыл бұрын
Nettles had Targaryen blood through house Velaryon right?
@foolofatook1271
Жыл бұрын
@@codyparker4742 yes. Typically, a dragon rider is 100% Targaryen or at least 50%. Nettles was like 25% which was unheard of. But yes, she was part Targaryen.
@wayne47able
Жыл бұрын
Targaryens weren’t the only Dragonlords and it’s very possible that she’s of mixed Valeryon origin. Even the Targaryens themselves aren’t pure Valeryon due to all of the intermarriage with different houses
@ArqAngilberto
3 жыл бұрын
2:55 I just enjoy the way our Old King talks, he was always a man of learning, but he was also a warrior and a dragonrider. I remember reading that on Fire & Blood and how they confirm Orys parentage.
@ArqAngilberto
3 жыл бұрын
My two favorites Orys Baratheon, one of the first known and important dragonseeds, and Addam Velaryon.
@Zanderal24
3 жыл бұрын
L o y a l
@ArqAngilberto
3 жыл бұрын
@@Zanderal24 That was what Alyn Oakenfist marked on his brother's grave. Amazing
@thalmoragent9344
Жыл бұрын
@@ArqAngilberto Wait, who was his brother?
@hexbug9737
22 күн бұрын
@@thalmoragent9344Addam
@jasonyea7649
3 жыл бұрын
What they meant by there were gifts given is that Orys himself was a gift that he was a gift to the world a strong soldier Aegon’s best friend and strong right hand if it wasn’t for the affair he wouldn’t have existed so he was a gift
@wafflingmean4477
3 жыл бұрын
Sheepstealer might actually still be alive. It's likely that after Nettles died the dragon begun to roam. I expect it left Westeros though, as dragon sightings would have been very noticeable, even in the Vale wilderness.
@CoRLex-jh5vx
2 жыл бұрын
If it only flew within a small radius above mountains only inhabited by the 'cult', then Sheepstealer could still be hanging around there. Any outsiders who saw SS would probably be thought of as mad, if they even managed to escape the mountain men
@TrueJxC
Жыл бұрын
We will find out soon.
@lintonfor4035
3 жыл бұрын
It seems like the dragons are like nuclear weapons and no one ever wanted to start a war as when you everyone gets destroyed- it's called mutually assured destruction with nuclear weapons
@bensonfang1868
3 жыл бұрын
That’s why Valyrians had a semi democracy instead of kingdoms. Settle differences with votes and debates not war.
@santymartin7383
2 жыл бұрын
@@bensonfang1868 didnt they have like a empire before the fall?
@ygslyn6732
2 жыл бұрын
@@santymartin7383 they had a dynasty, but they weren’t total and absolute monarchs. Aegon the conqueror himself made friends of those he defeated, and often met with them
@Argos-xb8ek
3 жыл бұрын
Addam was a tragic character and I wish him and his brother were given some more light.
@Hochspitz
3 жыл бұрын
I often wonder if in fact Danaerys is a dragon seed. Visery's stories to Dany are so filled with obvious lies and/or holes. That damn Red Door and the lemon tree, hehe!
@guisas123
3 жыл бұрын
It wouldn't make sense.
@tobiasash9281
3 жыл бұрын
Preston Jacobs has a series on this.
@Hochspitz
3 жыл бұрын
@@tobiasash9281 Yeah, I know -;))
@fairshareofdrownedsouls
3 жыл бұрын
The Dragonseeds were a very fun addition to Fire & Blood. Great video as always!
@alexturlais8558
3 жыл бұрын
I love nettles, not only as a character but because she shows there's more to dragon riding than just magic genetics.
@joshuaadams1178
3 жыл бұрын
But how do we know she hasn’t got Targaryen or Velaryon genetics?
@antonchizhov4419
3 жыл бұрын
Besides, Nettles IS a very charming and interesting character, based on the somewhat limited info from “Fire and Blood”. And she gives the reader some insight into how the Valyrians might have bonded with dragons in the first place: by feeding them sheep, and subsequently trying to ride them, after there’s a level of familiarity with the dragon. On another hand, IMO it’s likely most dragon riders initially came over from The Great Empire of the Dawn. Hopefully GRRM will let us know eventually if there’s some truth to this thesis
@princeali1932
3 жыл бұрын
@@antonchizhov4419 I think GRRM already did. In the books when Daenerys had one of her dreams she saw other people with silver gold hair like her, but their eye colors were different. And each color was the same color of the gem stone emperors
@antonchizhov4419
3 жыл бұрын
@@princeali1932 it was one of her visions in the House of the Undying, if I remember it correctly? There was a multitude of weird, yet incredible and fascinating stuff going on in there. Goes to show how deep and multi-layered the world built by Martin really is, full of subtle hints and mystery that provide context for the storyline and the characters
@franklyyourewrong2803
3 жыл бұрын
But... it’s mostly magic genetics
@dtice69
3 жыл бұрын
Good ol' Prima Nocta. Sometimes, novelists and writers don't need to look too much further than real life for devious plot points in their fiction.
@shanenolan8252
3 жыл бұрын
If I life the hammer I rule asgard ? yes , I will be re instituting primenocta ( Tony stark) .
@jillkcalia
3 жыл бұрын
I was going to comment but I knew another history buff would have already. 🙂
@brownlandcleve3786
3 жыл бұрын
The institution of Prima Nocta - as in the right of a monarch to perform sexual acts with a bride after her wedding with another subject - is debated to ever having existed. The majority of historians believe it’s just a myth, due to the complete lack of contemporary medieval sources.
@dtice69
3 жыл бұрын
@@brownlandcleve3786 yeah, I don't doubt that it's overblown. Most likely it happened once or a few times because of one particularly overzealous lord and people blew it out of proportion. What isn't up for debate is where Martin got his idea from.
@sangbum60090
3 жыл бұрын
Prima Nocta is a myth. At least not like in ASOIAF.
@charliecrackers4643
3 жыл бұрын
Such a relief hearing these honestly. Helps me relax and stuff. Appreciate your work.
@carolynallisee2463
3 жыл бұрын
Perhaps the Targaryen custom of gifting gold, lands and other valuable assets to the mother of a dragonseed was a surviving custom from the dragonlords of the Valyrian Freehold. The tradition of incestuous marriage, already millennia old by the time of the Doom, must surely have had major detrimental effects on both fertility and viability and health of the infants born to dragonlord houses. One way of ameliorating this effect would have been to marry younger siblings off into the other dragonlord houses. This would have managed to slow down the degeneration caused by repetitive inbreeding, but not stop it. After all, How many houses of Dragonlords did the Freehold have? Sooner or later, even this expanded gene pool would begin to look frighteningly unvaried, and the number of miscarriages, still births, deformities and infant mortality rates would once more begin to rise. This is where Valyrian Dragonseeds come in. Little is said about the non-dragon-riding Valyrians, but I guess we can assume that the lower ranks had the same racial characteristics as the Dragonlords: ethereal beauty in male and female, purple eye shades and silver/gold hair. If so, then they, too, may have had the potential to become dragonriders. Whilst the Freehold may not have had the custom of the 'first night', the menfolk might have been free to seek love outside the marriage bed... and, for all we know, so might the women. Until and unless GRRM clarifies the matter, it could be that any child born out of wedlock was considered to be part of the House the dragonlord parent belonged to, with almost all the rights and privileges given to trueborn offspring, especially if those trueborn ones kept dying at birth or just afterwards. It wouldn't be the first time the Targaryens kept an old Valyrian tradition going when those around them didn't. From what I understood from 'Fire and Blood' the only thing Orys Baratheon didn't have was the Targaryen name: do we assume this was the family name of his non-Targaryen mother? Dragonseeds in the Valyrian Freehold might have done the same, adopting the family name of the non-Dragonlord parent but still considered part of the house. And if the dragonseed's parent had other, 'pureblood' children, the dragonseed was wed into the family, keeping the bloodline together with fresh genes slipped in...
@thalmoragent9344
3 жыл бұрын
So how did all the husband's of all these wives that had to have sex with their Lord's handle this? Since with your info, even the Valyrians had a system of having a lot of these "dragonseeds" that would eventually marry back in the family, did none of the men of the lower houses ever question this?
@ibrahimmustafa2481
3 жыл бұрын
Are you really trying to bring science into a fantasy story with dragons😆😂🤣
@thalmoragent9344
3 жыл бұрын
@@ibrahimmustafa2481 Well, I feel it may not be too far fetched. Wanting to add fresh blood to the line so they don't have as many issues... well, may not be too out of the question
@ibrahimmustafa2481
3 жыл бұрын
@@thalmoragent9344 it’s fantasy. The most logical answer to it would be magic.
@carolynallisee2463
3 жыл бұрын
@@ibrahimmustafa2481 -to paraphrase a famous science fiction writer " Any technology that's different to ours is going to seem like magic..." Besides, magic still follows certain laws and rules, even if those laws and rules match nothing we understand. And if the issues the Valyrians and Targaryens had with fertility and viability was simply down to magic, why didn't they use more magic to correct the issues? The humans in GRRM's world understood enough about genetic inheritance to understand incest was dangerous, and therefore, banned it. The detrimental consequences of the Targaryen custom of wedding close relations to each other simply compounded the issues since the only Valyrian bloodlines inexistence were them, the Velaryons and the Celtigars, and of the latter two, the Velaryons were favoured. With such a small gene pool, even without the continual inbreeding, the Targaryen line was doomed to extinction sooner or later,
@thetalesofelbek7042
2 жыл бұрын
Nettles has a Targaryen blood , they summoned only dragon seeds , they would not let some commoner to tame a dragon. Like come on ? She most likely Daemon daughter who advised her how to tame one.
@JoshuaHenelyThornhill
3 жыл бұрын
Once again my guy coming with a dope video full of knowledge on our favorite series 🙏🏾 Bless you man ⚡️⚡️
@UncleBlazed
3 жыл бұрын
i fell in love with game of thrones and i started watching your channel to learn more about it,it was so confusing at first but thanks to you i know more about asoiaf lore than our world history hahaha upload more often plsssss🤘🏽
@thetalesofelbek7042
3 жыл бұрын
for me the most interesting dragon seed is Addam the Loyal
@tobiasash9281
3 жыл бұрын
There’s a theory that Nettles is part Child of The Forest. If that’s true it’s fitting that her name is Nettles, like Leaf.
@rexrivers2220
3 жыл бұрын
The only dragon seed I’m interested in seeing is Nettles
@verttisahala8457
3 жыл бұрын
Yep! Also, the valyrians were also sheepherders before they tamed dragons so perhaps there is something to that!
@dutchislax14
3 жыл бұрын
@@verttisahala8457 yo that’s a great point!
@wezzas
3 жыл бұрын
Daughter or lover to Daemon? My money is on daughter.
@bensonfang1868
3 жыл бұрын
Hugh and ulf id love to see because they are pretty much dragon rider bronn
@Caraxes_RoguePrince
3 жыл бұрын
@@wezzas tf are you talking about?? Don’t think it was his literal daughter
@erikaheck8261
3 жыл бұрын
I named my cat Seasmoke because I loved Addam and Laenor so much
@whycreate
3 жыл бұрын
Planted
@CollectionLearning.
3 жыл бұрын
Gg's
@QueenDaenerysTargaryen
3 жыл бұрын
I see what you did there🔥🐲
@melanineyedoc
3 жыл бұрын
LMAO nice double entendre G
@Precislycole
3 жыл бұрын
Yoo im at work bored thank you whycreate💛
@AbhishekKr.Singh1609
3 жыл бұрын
On a totally unrelated note You should do Wayne(bruce wayne) family tree
@roosa_kepa7633
3 жыл бұрын
The first night thing has been thought to happen in medeival europe but later scholars just think its a myth and more to do with asking lords for premission to marry
@tereziamarkova2822
3 жыл бұрын
Okay, apparently it has to be said, because I though it was a common knowledge - first night was not a thing, especially not in Middle Ages. Sure, lords raping peasant women were sadly not uncommon (they did have a lot of power over them and it's not hard to imagine some abusing it), but putting it into law would be preposterous even then. It was mostly a literary trope, like when you wanted to show a noble of being a tyrant, you made him participate in the first night, or when you wanted to slander him, you said that's what he's doing. But there is no evidence it was ever an actual law.
@travisoliver6741
2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, it's wild how old that trope actually is. That was the main inciting incident in the Epic of Gilgamesh, probably one of, if not the oldest living hero story in the world.
@jendersonmohammed443
3 жыл бұрын
Please do a video about the Dance of the dragons
@thalmoragent9344
3 жыл бұрын
8:15 Oof, welp, at least the lie/secret got out, so she was found out in the end 👀
@ketreenawilliams9812
3 жыл бұрын
I like to think that Jaheryes really did end right to first night in real medieval time.
@burtan2000
15 күн бұрын
You speak of Prima nocte, and it was infamously real. It was as unpopular IRL as one would expect, but it seems to be less hated in some places in Westeros. I’m just saying the chance to have a potential magical kid that can ride dragons…? Plus they get presents. Not like gift cards either but like riches. And remember that the smallfolk had been taught for a while that the Targs were “exceptional” and despite Grrm being extremely altruistic, he has made most of the big houses have defining traits that are desirable. Targs don’t get sick (as often or as severely). They often can see future. They can brush off small fire damage. Etc.
@tylercruse2402
3 жыл бұрын
Whycreate you are my favorite ASOIAF commentator, slightly above Quinn's Ideas. I once read a theory that Orys Baratheon's mother was a Bastard of Storm's End. Are there clues or textual evidence of this?
@bclr6843
Жыл бұрын
I guess it would be hard to find the right actors with the ability and look. But I always pictured the Targaryen’s to be so beautiful nobody could touch them and the actors just never seemed “unbelievably Beautiful” as I pictured them
@badyoutuber1986
29 күн бұрын
It's like Jaime and cercie the acting was phenomenal but when you look at them out of context from pure physical features alone you would not think it's the characters from the books
@cillianhegarty6942
3 жыл бұрын
A lord seeping with a woman on her wedding night was a real thing in medieval Europe known as prima nocta. It was popular in Scotland as a way of trying to breed out the Scottish by leeting English lords sleep with women on their wedding nights.
@user-er6tv3ke9p
24 күн бұрын
Lol you've been watching too much brave heart
@somaliopiummerchant7171
3 жыл бұрын
i love this channel tho
@Toto-95
3 жыл бұрын
No, in the real world "la prima nocte" is a myth. If lords really started this trend even with their serfs instead of vassals, they would be dead within the year. Marriage is sacred to the catholic church , you don't want to mess with it no matter your status
@igorpostumus
3 жыл бұрын
Is that a dragon with hands I see in the thumbnail? Absolute heresy.
@DarriannMariee
3 жыл бұрын
I woke up at the perfect time 🥳
@1992zorro
Жыл бұрын
So did Nettles have any valyrian blood in her or not? It seems like yes as she was a common girl of dragonstone which we know a lot of Targaryen slept with people of the island. She might have been one of those bastards
@bensonfang1868
3 жыл бұрын
My bet is that the 4 dragonseeds minus Addam were all daemon’s kids. Ulf and Hugh had daemon’s negative traits.
@badyoutuber1986
29 күн бұрын
I think they were to old to be Deamons possible Bealon and Aemons bastards
@joshuagcwong734
Жыл бұрын
The audacity of Hugh Hammer is hilarious. Bro thought he was the shit 💀
@palemoonlight96
24 күн бұрын
We've finally gotten ulf and hugh on screen!!!
@DAWAXFAX
22 күн бұрын
Hugh Hammer must have thought himself thee shits after mounting that dragon bro changed his name 😂
@victoriashevlin8587
3 жыл бұрын
You're right. It did indeed happen in our world. It's called Prima Nocta or the Right of First Night.
@nomorok15
3 жыл бұрын
I'm sorry to disappoint but we have no prove it ever did happen the first accounts of the concept showed up hundreds of years after the middle ages at a time when people tended to either romanticize or condemn the middle ages to a laugable degree. Not saying that no common woman was ever raped by a noble man but there was no law giving you the right to do it mainly because the King who would put that into action would have put himself on the churches bad side and pretty much no one was willing to risk that and endanger ones own power.
@InTheDarknessWhereIDwell
3 жыл бұрын
Classic example in modern day is the movie Braveheart. Also known as "Droit du seigneur"or Lord's Right.
@nomorok15
3 жыл бұрын
@@InTheDarknessWhereIDwell im sorry but if you think Braveheart is historically correct in any way you really need to rethink your understanding of history
@InTheDarknessWhereIDwell
3 жыл бұрын
@@nomorok15 never said it was historically correct, how ever the reference to a Lord claiming first right to a new bride was made.
@nomorok15
3 жыл бұрын
@@InTheDarknessWhereIDwell well than I apologize for the misunderstanding I guess I am scared by the discussions I had with people who genuinely believed movies like this depict real history good on you for not falling into that trap Hollywood has sprung :)
@kohaecherrington5273
2 жыл бұрын
i've got a question is house valyrion still in the current time peroid when the books take place?
@alex939709
Жыл бұрын
Yes. They're allied with Stannis.
@badyoutuber1986
29 күн бұрын
Yes there is a bastard of the house and an infant
@mycathasswag7242
3 жыл бұрын
How did the dragons die out? Wouldn't the targaryans be super keen on breeding a lot of them? Also how'd they return? Love these lore videos, 👌
@thetalesofelbek7042
3 жыл бұрын
they had 20+ dragons , man! a dragon is not a horse. there werent many targaryen riders around! if they had they would have second valyria in Westeros.
@zxcvbnm812
3 жыл бұрын
The dragons in Westeros went extinct after the dance of dragons, where most of them died, and the rest was kept in captivity, resulting in the decrease of their strength and size. Daenerys' dragons were probably born because she killed Mirri Maz Duur in th pyre
@taurinvandenbrand7574
3 жыл бұрын
It's also believed Aegon III 'the Dragonbane' who ruled after the Dance of the Dragons may have made sure these dragons all died out. After all he was heavily traumatized by the civil war in which he almost lost his entire family and watched his mother being fed alive to a dragon.
@brendan9868
2 жыл бұрын
@@taurinvandenbrand7574 I honestly think the “Dragonbane” nickname Aegon got was more of just slander against him honestly. Sure he was traumatized his whole life and wasn’t too fond of dragons, but he did try to hatch more with it being stated he even tried to bring mages from Essos to hatch a collection of eggs, which is very reminiscent of future hatching attempts such as Summerhall. People blame him for the death of the last dragon, despite it being said that it was “sickly, small, misshapen, and stunted, with withered wings.” In all likelihood it just died naturally. Point is the “Dragonbane” idea just sounds more like propaganda against him by political rivals than an actual provable fact. In all likelihood he was just the unfortunate bloke who happened to be king when they died out, if his brother Viserys was in his place at the time he likely would’ve been given that same treatment despite his very pro dragon stance.
@taurinvandenbrand7574
2 жыл бұрын
@@brendan9868 i do agree with you that the name is probably slander from his enemies, but it is clearly stated that Aegon III hated and feared dragons, and would never go near one. True, he did bring nine mages over to try and hatch some new ones, but this was only done after the urging of his brother/ hand of the king who had convinced him that dragons could be powerful tools against their enemies. So maybe in the end he only tried to bring them back because of his brother, fearing that mayhaps another rift would come between him and his only friend. Also Aegon III left most of the day to day governance of the realm to his brother so maybe prince Viserys made all the plans and Aegon III got the credit because he was the king. I actually also do not believe Aegon III was behind the ending of the dragons, I only think its possible. I guess we will never know until old Georgie will release Blood and Fire.
@classified9583
3 жыл бұрын
7:33 Why cant it be faceless men? Just once theyd charge a lot to kill 2 potential king would hav been cool
@not_averge
6 ай бұрын
So it's only with that specific culture thing? Like jon snow isn't one
@shanenolan8252
3 жыл бұрын
Thanks
@docvaliant721
3 жыл бұрын
Like RH negative blood types in the real world. Means we are a mix of different human species.
@not_averge
6 ай бұрын
Why it always 0:00 happends that the dragon riders inheret it rather that gain it
@brandonwachter2264
2 жыл бұрын
I've watched many of your video's & am truly a fan of your work. That being said. I have to respectfully disagree with your opinion on Nettles heredity. I say this because historically having some "blood of the dragon" was always necessary to have a chance of bonding & becoming a dragon rider. Also there are a number of examples of true born Targaryens who did not share the typical valyrian features. Themselves having dark hair & eyes. So it is my humble opinion that Nettles does have "blood of the dragon" somewhere in her lineage. ✌
@badyoutuber1986
29 күн бұрын
Like Dunken the small and princess rheanys
@DownUnderWarboss
3 жыл бұрын
"Primae Noctis" is the word that was used
@bwkeane614
2 жыл бұрын
Maybe Sheepstealer laid the eggs that would later be hatched by Daenerys 😳
@foolofatook1271
Жыл бұрын
Nope. Either Dreamfyre or the three eggs the female explorer took from her Targaryen lover on dragon stone.
@badyoutuber1986
29 күн бұрын
Dreamfyre
@SHARKVADERS
3 жыл бұрын
WC!!!
@sleepless_jr
3 жыл бұрын
Niceee
@alonsocceli3295
3 жыл бұрын
I love staying up late at night :D
@ibnjamaalabdirahman9348
3 жыл бұрын
No cap whycreate is carrying
@QueenDaenerysTargaryen
3 жыл бұрын
I am the dragons daughter 👍blood and seed of Aegon the Conqueror 👍 🔥🔥🔥🐉🐲🐉🔥🔥🔥
@stomper1234
3 жыл бұрын
Oh yah
@TheMightofDab
3 жыл бұрын
The Dragonsneed
@karimw.9954
3 жыл бұрын
How did Nettles afford those sheep
@patrickasplund
3 жыл бұрын
Prima Nocta was a northern European tradition.
@Evilanious
3 жыл бұрын
The right of the first night, like the oubliette's mentioned in asoiaf has been believed to have existed in medieval europe, but current historians don't believe it was ever real (well, some very small cells were a thing in the holocaust, so those might count as oubliettes to some, but that was not medieval). While torture was common and while no doubt some noblemen abused their powers to rape with impunity like how Roose conceived Ramsey (if hollywood bigshots do it now, some feudal lords did it for sure) these particular customs were adapted by GRRM from popular portrayals of medieval times, not from actual history.
@jakehopkins6989
3 жыл бұрын
What are you talking about? There are loads of examples of oubliettes
@Evilanious
3 жыл бұрын
@@jakehopkins6989 I've checked on the internet and I'm not sure anymore. I got it from the wikipedia article on dungeons a while back, but that one is poorly sourced. I found contradictory claims in other places, with some historians claiming they existed and some other historians claiming that most or all of them are storage places mistaken for cells. At least one person on quora had pictures though, along with the claim that human bones were found, so they probably did exist. My mistake.
@justingraves1291
2 жыл бұрын
You got me incredibly let down, Dragonseed is a badass early PS1 game, deep down i knew they wouldn't be connected...but i held out hope XD
@user-qu7ev7ys2l
6 ай бұрын
Prima nocta. Sadly it is true. Braveheart shows it pretty accurately
@nikhildabas2685
3 жыл бұрын
we can now agree the books are not coming out
@linusyootasteisking
3 жыл бұрын
2:30 yes it happens. Saddam Hussain's son, I think, used to crash weddings like that.
@ibrahimmustafa2481
3 жыл бұрын
My dad did too
@PzY-Reviews
2 күн бұрын
No nettles only rehea
@alimirzaee4689
3 жыл бұрын
The bedding tradition actually happened in the medieval times it was believed that the more men "spread their manliness inside the bride" the stronger her child will be. And also it was a way to know the bride wasn't a virgin anyways its pretty disgusting.
@jsullivan05
3 жыл бұрын
Yeah this is not remotely true, it was something made up by the Scots to rile up their base and get them to fight for independence, nobles raping commoners was not at all uncommon, but it was never on a wedding night and it was never codified into law, there is zero evidence of it outside of a few RECENT literary works where it was used to show how bad the tyrant noble was. But yeah, just to recap, this was Scottish propaganda and never happened (Source: Not a full on historian, but a student of history *AND* Irish, i'd love nothing more than to shit on England lol)
@ibrahimmustafa2481
3 жыл бұрын
It happens in modern times too, it’s called a Gangbang or Orgy😆😂🤣
@Dasycottus
9 күн бұрын
... RIP 😭🤣
@jacobkelly6690
3 жыл бұрын
Wedding cousin folks wives on their wedding night did happen to assault Prima nocta
@jacobkelly6690
3 жыл бұрын
In fact if I recall it happened in Scotland
@wikipediaintellectual7088
3 жыл бұрын
"First Night," is a myth, and was not a thing in real life.
@youngmerk88
Жыл бұрын
Would'nt it have been badass ass if the Velaryons had bad ass sea creatures they could control? Since the Targs have dragons.
@Saspuer26
Жыл бұрын
They have. The Seahorse on their sigil 🤣 Sorry, I couldn't resist. But hey they have the Velaryon fleet and are capable seafarers 😉
@youngmerk88
Жыл бұрын
@@Saspuer26 lol
@badyoutuber1986
29 күн бұрын
Nah it would make the balance of power to even and even is boring
@gking2121
3 жыл бұрын
prima nocta, prima nocta, prima nocta
@jlt606
3 жыл бұрын
235 am
@ik3a141
Жыл бұрын
The phrase prima nocta, based on the Latin “first night,” is a shortened and corrupted from jus primae noctis, “right of the first night.” It generally names an ancient tradition in which all noble lords, whether kings or dukes, had the right to have sex with any of their female subjects-regardless of their will and even with a virgin bride-on her wedding night. Yeah its real
@shortbuspimp
3 жыл бұрын
Why does Orys Baratheon look so... Not even close to valyrian? The seed is strong
@thetalesofelbek7042
3 жыл бұрын
the seed is strong because it is targ seed, there many targs with non valyrian looks: jon, baelor, rhaenys,orys, rhaegal, duncan...
@ibrahimmustafa2481
3 жыл бұрын
@@thetalesofelbek7042 Duncan!!!!!!!”?”
@mayankbisht7691
3 жыл бұрын
@@ibrahimmustafa2481 Duncan Targeyrian, son of Aegon the Unlikely
@alex52043
2 ай бұрын
The eggs were stronger.
@beaniebabybeanskins477
3 жыл бұрын
If Orys Baratheon was a bastard, how come he doesn't have a bastard surname?? I think Orys Stone would of been his bastard name.. What do you all think?
@keel1237
Жыл бұрын
Probably because the targs were really trying to get accustomed to westerosi tradition like the faith of the seven. To have a bastard as your right hand would most likely be seen bad by the faith.
@matthewlarue1883
2 жыл бұрын
Nettles did what the first valerians did. They were sheep herders.
@7eventhpharoah530
3 жыл бұрын
“Mud brown skin and dirty appearance” ....wow really ...
@Samperor
3 жыл бұрын
Does that fits your appearance?
@shanenolan8252
3 жыл бұрын
Oh yes it was a real world thing and after it was dropped from law the expectation still existed like with Bolton and Glover. I'm taking up to the 19th century in some places. And it wasn't confined to a wedding night , just a party at the big house . ( so my grandmother said )
@tereziamarkova2822
3 жыл бұрын
Your grandmother a) knows more than any actual historian (because we have no goddamned evidence that was a thing) b) made this up.
@shanenolan8252
3 жыл бұрын
@@tereziamarkova2822 seriously ? made it up . That's funny she didn't make it up ( she wasn't one of the girls chosen) and this was late 19 and early 20s century she was talking about. And I have other stories that dont have documentary evidence but there is DNA evidence. Please dont pull documentary evidence and historians on me . And yes on certain subjects I credit my late grandmother more that any cambridge historian or oxford don or Harvard or wherever. I'm a historian myself I argue with them everyday . And I say there is no documentary evidence on what I said but actually there is on this subject. My grandmother never lied ( she might remain silent on a subject but never lied , and for what reason ? Sand old dying woman talking to her children and grandchildren telling a story than was common knowledge in the town , and many other towns like it .
@QueenDaenerysTargaryen
3 жыл бұрын
House🏠🐲 of the dragon🔥🐉🐲 will be epic.
@gamenmetkikkerstyle
3 жыл бұрын
In the times of the middle ages where england ruled scotland there was a same kind of rule. Where the english lords got the oppurtunity to sleep with the newly wed wifes of the scottish lords. One of the reasons why they rebelled!
@joefeldkamp5171
3 жыл бұрын
Yes it totally did happen in real life! Roman Empowers and lesser lords were well known to practice It was also fairly common in Scotland, China, Kurdistan and Hawaii. The most commonly used name is Droit du seigneur meaning “Lord’s Right”.
@ibrahimmustafa2481
3 жыл бұрын
Roman Empire had slaves so of course things like that happen, but other than that NO.
@joefeldkamp5171
3 жыл бұрын
@@ibrahimmustafa2481 except it did happen
@vulgardisplay5467
3 жыл бұрын
Hey brother, love your content, have for years... but have you given any thought to the fact that GRRM doesn't know how to tie the loose ends in his novels, including danys heel turn. Speculation is pointless, stick with the histories
@cjeffygo
3 жыл бұрын
If I might offer a bit of constructive criticism, you have a tendency to drop your volume at the end of your sentences. You start speaking at a good volume, but you barely mutter that last 3 or 4 words of each sentence and it's hard to understand what you're saying.
@leepreston9637
3 жыл бұрын
Actually prima nocta was just peasant rebel propaganda.
@zofiazurek3506
3 жыл бұрын
Second!
@inthelifeofjb1493
3 жыл бұрын
First
@drowjack
3 жыл бұрын
Now you know why Corlys Velaryon's ethnic swap will distort the plot. Yes, it's a stretch to please a demographic.
@tereziamarkova2822
3 жыл бұрын
They cast Matt Smith as the goddamned Rogue Prince, it's not like they give a shit about making sense.
@ianvera4299
3 жыл бұрын
@@tereziamarkova2822 Making sense? Matt Smith is a great actor.
@ianvera4299
3 жыл бұрын
Distort? We haven't seen a trailer and you are already complaining.
@drowjack
3 жыл бұрын
@@ianvera4299 No need, I will watch it anyway but it's clear that it will have major changes to the plot
@tereziamarkova2822
3 жыл бұрын
@@ianvera4299 I know, and I don't want to insult anyone's taste, but Daemon Targaryen is supposed to be this dangerous bad boy, this handsome manly man, and Matt Smith... Doesn't look like that.
@starkiller6740
9 ай бұрын
Damn you spoiled a lot
@andrzejkopalnia
3 жыл бұрын
So they have a dark skinned character but chose to switch House Velaryon? Curious.
@mar1205
3 жыл бұрын
its fiction
@badyoutuber1986
29 күн бұрын
@@mar1205inspired by reality the black valaryons are stupid
@fuckoffgoogle1657
7 ай бұрын
Jokes on us, the dragon seeds are just a bunch of random black dudes with funny accents that could be from literally anywhere in essos because fuck the lore, I guess they’re never even mentioned outside of a throw away line or two of dialogue
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