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@jonasistaken
2 жыл бұрын
You are great. Very glad I can contribute to you doing it your way!
@deductivereasoning4257
2 жыл бұрын
You're clearly in denial as it is crystal clear why you never had a chance...
@emailuser8104
2 жыл бұрын
Wasn't sure if that was you, so much color!
@czarekp3552
2 жыл бұрын
i don't, but then again, i would never molest anybody, with the sound of my delight, of stubbing my toe
@petegdula4749
2 жыл бұрын
Johnstown, Pennsylvania USA (I doubt you'd come to my smaller town of Bedford, PA) Good luck!
@hugbow
2 жыл бұрын
Mary, I've been a performing musician all of my life and I'm now 80 years old. I never sought to be a full-time musician and made most of my living as a newspaper journalist. But I've had a wonderful musical life, playing with some great and some not-so-great musicians but always loving what I've been doing. Your advice, for all those young musicians out there looking to build a career, is spot on, in my opinion. Especially today, with business bureaucracies running almost everything, remaining independent and close to your audience seems to me to be the smartest move for your own personal satisfaction and mental health. You may have to do other things to make a sufficient financial living, but I believe giving up your musical independence will bring more heartache than anything else. Hang in there, Mary. You are a real asset.
@bryancorbin5791
Жыл бұрын
This girl is wonderfully talented, amazingly eloquent, and wise beyond her years. I appreciate her fresh, and remarkably sane perspective.
@ZippyCurve
2 жыл бұрын
It makes me really happy to see so many people out here that just want to make music for the art and hopefully for enough to make ends meet. It’s nice to know I’m not alone.
@thevelvetshadow
Жыл бұрын
Keep the faith :)
@DesignCourse
2 жыл бұрын
She's right. I'm a hobby musician, but this channel (nearing 1m subs) has nothing to do with music. A few years ago I released a synthwave music video that had to do with coding and it hit well over 100k+ views. 100k people listening to my song ;). Build an audience!
@itsbazyli
Жыл бұрын
Can you link us to your video?
@LukeMaynard
Жыл бұрын
Thank you for sharing this straight talk with us all. My Dad was an old-time folkie and a late-born Baby Boomer. The music industry landscape changed a lot in his lifetime, and then in mine. If he'd been born 10 or 15 years earlier, there's nothing John Denver, Arlo Guthrie, or maybe John Martyn in the UK couldn't have done. He wasn't about to become the next Beatle, but he could've had a very respectable following and sold out some big shows for 40 years based on his skill level. As it was, he caught the tailwind of that age, and managed to make a living as a full-time musician, playing lots of local shows, appearing on a few somewhat obscure LPs, licensing himself and his ears out as a session musician and producer. It wasn't stardom, but you could still pay the rent with nothing but musicianship then. That's no longer possible for 99.9% of musicians in my generation, especially for those who don't hit the gym at 16 and get their start on their 18th birthday with a toned MTV-ready body (though even MTV is dated now as a delivery system). Maybe the indie revolution will make it possible for the generation after me to make a go of things, but despite a full CD of my own out there, I've never figured out how to make back even enough to keep my website live. It's interesting how many of your comments describe being working musicians in the 1990s, which I think was maybe the last time it was viable. It's just not the same world from 2010 onward. They certainly didn't get less amazing as musicians. The world just changed, and acknowledging that is the key to figuring out what to do with the world we've got. Too many musicians are still trying to chase the success model of their heroes from the 1970s or even the 1990s. That's not what our success will ever look like, because we don't have the world they did. What success looks like, for the rest of us, is very much a work in progress.
@paulapplewhite6135
2 жыл бұрын
Good luck Mary - you have real talent, and deserve to succeed 😊 Remember though, “The music business is a cruel and shallow money trench, a long plastic hallway where thieves and pimps run free, and good men die like dogs. There's also a negative side.” ― Hunter S. Thompson
@TheBod76
2 жыл бұрын
Deserve? Why? She is one of millions of very talented musicians, do they all deserve to become rich? She allready makes a living from her music so where exactly is the problem? This whole video has a strong vibe of "I feel I deserve to become rich from my music, since I think I am better or as good as other pop stars". That's like saying I think I am a great actor so I should make Hollywood dollars. If your goal is to become rich and you choose musician as career, you might as well buy lottery tickets. The industry never was about talents, it allways was about max profit. If you can make a living from your music you are allready living the dream!!
@paulapplewhite6135
2 жыл бұрын
@@TheBod76 I never said Mary "deserved to become rich", I said she deserved to succeed". Is it really so bad to wish someone well?
@TheBod76
2 жыл бұрын
@@paulapplewhite6135 Nothing wrong with wishing someone well at all!
@GaZonk100
Жыл бұрын
hang on - real talent WILL succeed. . .there is no 'buried talent' out there any more. .
@RobertWGreaves
2 жыл бұрын
I decided in 1978 I would focus on being an audio engineer and a session guitarist working exclusively on the local scene. I had absolutely zero interest in looking at the national picture. It isn’t that I thought I couldn’t do it. I simply saw it is as so corrupt for average talent that I didn’t even want to be part of it. As it stands, I did fine. I made enough money to live decently, had time to pursue college degrees just for fun and without debt, and eventually had enough expertise that I finished out my career before retiring as a college professor of sound engineering. No regrets, except maybe an illusory yearning for opportunities that I know never really existed.
@pauromeromusic
2 жыл бұрын
Great approach and great story Bob! I’d like to know more about your story! Cheers
@ogskullomania3119
2 жыл бұрын
This is currently my goal after the military I figured audio engineering is always needed I doNt want to be rich just do something that makes me happy
@RasCuban33
2 жыл бұрын
After graduating from LaGuardia Music And Art HS I went on to Institute of Audio Research and decided to play in bands (98’-08’) while engineering and producing. Never wanted to go down the major label route, saw too many school mates shifted into different genres when dealing with the majors (ie Kelis). Now I’m a session musician/engineer with a guitar,amp and cabinet repair biz.
@cbr8206
2 жыл бұрын
Bob...your path sounds like all the right decisions were made. Many would say you have lived a financially fruitful and balanced life. Well done!
@FlugHerr
2 жыл бұрын
Well played Bob
@michaelterry1000
2 жыл бұрын
I know absolutely nothing about the music industry but your advice, “Remove as many of the layers between you and your audience as you can” makes complete sense.
@hannanathan564
2 жыл бұрын
The whole “paying for radio promotions” thing is such a scam. The moment I saw people doing that in my scene, I really started distancing myself.. essentially from everybody I once associated with. It was only the ones who came from a wealthy background who got any attention, regardless of talent. If you couldn’t pay for promotions, doesn’t matter how good you are. And I saw plenty of great acts get passed over for mediocrity with money. Great video. Just sharing my nonsense ramblings lol.
@LaraTombRaider27
2 жыл бұрын
Wow, what perfect timing for this video as I just entered the same phase in my life, and also hearing others' comments sure is comforting for me knowing I'm not alone in feeling the same way. When I graduated high school 6 years ago I was determined to make it in music and was very immature imagining myself playing In shows, gaining attention, and making hits lol. Over the years since, that started to change as well as my music taste. I started to learn many things about myself, and my music tastes drifted drastically. I enjoyed making music still, but I really REALLY started getting a dark, anxious feeling inside me every time id picture myself in the industry or having to do shows, let's say just to survive. This feeling began probably 2 years ago. I started to not like the idea of music as a career anymore, I was enjoying making music, but those factors made the fun in music hard and even to do anything creative anymore. Subconsciously I was really unaware all this time. Then literally about a month ago, I realized id rather pursue something else that can help provide me something in the future and me enjoy it every day I wake up. Thank God I found a career and I never felt so happy and optimistic in life since. I'm now planning to enlist and learn a career that'll help and benefit people! 6 years, it took me 6 years to finally realize and accept this hard truth about music and what's best for me. I wouldn't wish it on anyone to take this long, but I hope my comment helps or relates to some. Ive discovered countless artists on this platform that ive enjoyed listening to ranging from 2010 to now. Just unique artists that inspired me and my sounds. Ive always wondered why did they stop releasing or putting out music for some time? Or just simply disappear? I realized that they were just making music for the fun of it at the time, not expecting anything, just putting there music out there. Of course, life moves on to have to finally focus on other important aspects. Ironically I'm now entering that phase and finally understanding what I assume these unique/disappearing artists went through. For me, I just wanna make music, have fun, and not lose the purity of how much music influences my life and feeds my soul, but for now, It's best to put it on pause and secure something first in life so I can finally enjoy my music without expectations. There was a comment I read, and it hits home it went along the lines of " I rather make music for the fun of it and in my rules than make music to pay the bills and fame cause thats when the purity and freedom of it fades." And it's so true, I don't wanna make music and also have to entertain just to "make it" nor do I wanna tour or have people force me to make an album, etc. Me knowing me I would despise living that lifestyle and dread it. I just wanna make music whenever I feel like making music. Period. Make music that only satisfies and pleases yourself cause thats the essence to continue loving it and what many forget to do. Charles Bukowski said it best -"Don't Try." I'll say one thing though, sincerely to you Mary. That is Thank you. Thank you for being a one-of-a-kind channel on here that speaks on these topics and the harsh truth that not many are willing to speak about or confess. I value it a lot, and it opened my eyes to know that I'm not alone, especially from reading of comments of others in the same place. On the bright side, it's good to know you have a great following on this platform (which is rightfully deserved), in regards to what happens down the line in your life. Just know, that we support you! :)
@alexissalinas8397
2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing, it sure is inspirational hearing your story. Wish nothing but the best for you in your life and your new pursuits! May joy and music accompany you nonetheless!
@paulschnyder938
2 жыл бұрын
Bit short.
@dedasalmeida9047
2 жыл бұрын
Damn I fully indentify with your comment 100% I'm into 8 months of my music career, due to my music style and what not I understand I wont be listened often For that reason I also just do music for fun... I do hope one day that by making music I can help my family and my girlfriend financially one day ...
@imonghose553
2 жыл бұрын
Fully agreed man. Find a decent career which can fund your music, and make music for creative satisfaction. That's the way to go !
@LaraTombRaider27
2 жыл бұрын
@@paulschnyder938 Reading is fun right? haha
@Foodgeek
2 жыл бұрын
That is so true. The record labels are dinosaurs, and the Internet is a (slow) moving asteroid coming their way. It's been shown in how they've resisted every innovation on the way, and now people make music in their bedrooms that sounds like stuff from coming out of a professional studio. I read somewhere that all you need are 1000 "true" followers to make a living off being an independent content/music/art/whatever creator :) Looking forward to the album :)
@MarySpender
2 жыл бұрын
I have a video on The Rule of 1000 True Fans - would love you to check it out and tell me your thoughts!
@10bbremer
2 жыл бұрын
These "dinosaurs" still dominate the music business. Now that the big three are public companies we can see their annual reports. The amount of money they make is astounding.
@Foodgeek
2 жыл бұрын
@@10bbremer Very true, and they can probably survive if they become more agile and adapt, but it doesn't seem very likely 😊 Most of those companies have their hands in many other things, though, so they will survive, but it certainly seems like the artists want something different 😊
@scottashe984
2 жыл бұрын
Unfortunately that asteroid killed more than the labels. In my opinion the newer albums released by established acts sound like garbage compared to the ones done in the 70's through the 90's. Many great records well never come to fruition because there is no money to be made. Quality of songs and the ability to find them had suffered. Sure we have access to millions and millions of songs but they are needles in a haystack and when you can download them for nothing the artist gets nothing in return.
@meteor713g
2 жыл бұрын
Well said
@josephhughes9490
2 жыл бұрын
Mary, Being a musician myself I couldn't agree more with your video describing the music industry. Unfortunately the way to notoriety and the world knowing your music is Unfortunately through record labels. Yes KZitem and Tik Tok get you out there in communities with a following but just isn't that classic recognition for your work. I am however a Mary Spender fan. Keep going.
@MarySpender
2 жыл бұрын
Thank you. I will keep going I promise.
@zebratroopfan6695
2 жыл бұрын
Keep going I just had this conversation with my son is a musician and is discouraged. I don’t really have a good answer but I know I’ve spent 35 years working at a job while wishing I had pursued my dream.
@eparock
2 жыл бұрын
actually gigging and touring are the best way. there is nothing more powerful than the power of word of mouth... it creates legends.
@russellhltn1396
2 жыл бұрын
@@zebratroopfan6695 Which raises the philosophical question: Is it better to have a good job and wish you pursued the dream, or is it better to pursue the dream and wish you had a job? The second question: if the dream becomes a job, will it still be fun?
@zebratroopfan6695
2 жыл бұрын
@@russellhltn1396 I can only speak of my experience with my brother. He started drawing when he was 4 or 5 seriously. He received very little encouragement. He majored in Art in college. My parents wanted him to get a traditional degree. The guidance counselor also suggested a different career path. He graduated and eventually got a job teaching at a small college. He also continued to draw and have shows. He contracted pneumonia which attacked his heart. It reduced his heart effectiveness to below 30%. As he was recovering in the hospital the first thing he did when he was able was draw on a little pad by his bed. I’ll never forget it. He died of a heart attack about a year later in his late 30’s. He was the most creative, passionate person I’ve ever met. He lived his life doing what he loved to do. I met so many of his students who stated developed a love of art because of his passion. When we went through his house it was basically an art store. He really had no other interests. I majored in music because I truly loved it but I changed my major to something that would provide a better income. I can tell you I’ve been poor and lived out of my car and I’ve now reached a point where we live a comfortable life. There is not a day that goes by that I don’t what if.
@hippomancy
2 жыл бұрын
you are amazing. I enjoy your "chats", your insight, your practicality. it seems screwed up that the industry mid-level shills are still in business, and embarrassing that people still take advantage of artists' dreams and naïveté. you deserve recognition for your insights and willingness to share them, and success for your music.
@awkipintee
Жыл бұрын
Always interesting, informative and inspiring. I for one respect and appreciate this amazing lady. Cheers 🥂
@nabi5864
Жыл бұрын
I think of Eva Cassidy who had by far the most naturally raw talented voice heard in a long time...No major record deals until after her passing
@keancv
Жыл бұрын
Labels did not help anyone there, tours make money for example, but only when the performer is alive. The lesson there is to fake your own death in the media, change your identity and live somewhere obscure then ensure that 'newly discovered' recordings are made public from time to time but not too often
@pataleno
2 жыл бұрын
Love these videos Mary. Please don't stop what you do.
@MarySpender
2 жыл бұрын
Thank you Pat.
@cmikesmith664
2 жыл бұрын
@@MarySpender I totally agree with Pat’s comment. 🎸 Keep rocking!!
@Havanorange
Жыл бұрын
A big shout-out to all the school music teachers who have the patience and willingness to teach and perhaps coach student musicians.
@byeckfella
Ай бұрын
I see that you’re all about the craft, the authenticity and just enjoying the music and the process of making music. It doesn’t matter if you have a gold disc (although I imagine it would be very nice) as long as you’re out there playing and enjoying it, recording and enjoying it. As a non musician I don’t know how it feels to be in your shoes but I can see how much you love the music and if you do something you love you’ll never work a day in your life. Much love.x
@RobWhittlestone
2 жыл бұрын
Just wow. What an eloquent, intelligent, dedicated, hard-working, talented, savvy and stunning lady. Taking the bird's eye view of her current disappointment with 'making it' as a musician, I can say one thing - she will be definitely hugely successful but perhaps in ways she didn't originally expect. Great respect and admiriation.
@swings.roundabouts
2 жыл бұрын
This is such a great video, so true about the industry. It still runs like it was decades ago, but times have very much changed. I was a session drummer for an artist around the end of the 00’s and once he was signed it sucked the enjoyment out of most of what we did. There was constant pressure, and the relationships between everyone in the band suffered. I’d started writing and recording my own stuff during this time, but was so delusioned by it all, I paused it all for over a decade. It’s only in the last couple of years I’ve started again, and am now in the process of recording my own album. I’m loving doing the music for myself, not having the thought of ‘making it’ or trying to please people I don’t even know. With anything in the art world, it’s always best to create things because you love to, and if you can earn some sort of wage as a result, then that’s a bonus. That’s living the dream!!
@deanepeterson9286
8 ай бұрын
Subscribed about a month ago and am catching up on your previous videos. I always enjoy them. This was another good and very interesting one. You seem very personable, honest, "down to earth", and you have a unique and wonderful voice. I hope you get the break you're looking for!
@InstrumentManiac
Жыл бұрын
What a great video! The whole shifting dynamic of record label power in this age is fascinating. I didn't even think of the playlisting aspect as the next evolution. Looking forward to hearing your studio album when it's finished
@heidigilsonmusic2800
2 жыл бұрын
You’re a huge inspiration to me, Mary!
@underground_fuzz
2 жыл бұрын
I've got so much respect for you. These last videos made me rediscover your channel & now I'm excited to hear you new upcoming album! 😊
@richardsmallwood7940
Жыл бұрын
Hi Mary, you're doing a grand job here. By making clear the important facts, in particular to young and upcoming talents, that the best way to make their selves visible to the public, that the answer is not to get lost in the myriad of successful artists by signing up to the totally disadvantageous contracts with the major labels! As an outsider, it seems that if they are really successful as a commercial entity, they stand a CHANCE of being picked up by the majors and be given meaningful contracts. It strikes me that the top talents do not fade away, so the newer artists have greater and greater problems that the market does not necessarily increase! So a big thank you, Mary, for what you're doing, and for your beautiful music! 🎼🎹🎶🎸
@LikeFrankWhite
2 жыл бұрын
I love you! You can do it! Don’t give up, I’m your biggest fan 🙌🏾🙌🏾
@sixtynineelephants2403
2 жыл бұрын
You are incredibly pleasant to listen to. Both your voice and direct no-fluff value based information make it for me. Subscribing.
@mauricioweber8879
Жыл бұрын
You are so clear and transparent! You pour your heart into all of your videos.. wow
@BassPotter46
2 жыл бұрын
Think about all the great musicians out there. They’re soulful, competent, passionate, have all the equipment, and dreams. They will never make it out of the local scene. The music gestapo wants to capitalize on YOUR hard work, and YOUR creativity. So it goes for so many! It’s about the music, and KZitem and other platforms have created a venue for the “nobody musicians” to become somebody. Like him or not, Dayglow (Sloan Struble) is a good example I think. His “product” has grown into something quite unique. Love your channel Ms. Mary!❤️🙂
@briangbv1
2 жыл бұрын
For you to be able to describe this very complex situation in such a concise way is admirable. You are amazing. ❤💙💜
@imJusta6stringguy
2 жыл бұрын
My bright eyed girl once showed me her passion project and I was moved to my core. I hope she's out there still working and doing what she can to show the world what I heard. Hang in there bright eyes.
@JustMe-ob1cq
Жыл бұрын
As the father of three grown independently successful daughters I will say this, stay passionate, chart your own course, and never be afraid to take chances. Life isn't easy, but you obviously are focused and passionate about your work. Its easy to get discouraged, but never let that stop you. I for one, will be listening.
@mjlewis104
2 жыл бұрын
In my humble opinion, the best example of a truly independent band.....MARILLION !!!
@MayAnneLuyun
2 жыл бұрын
this is the reason why you stand out among other guitarist i follow here on youtube. you value your fans/viewers/supporters. looking forward to your new album!
@beaujeste1
2 жыл бұрын
After finishing with cover bands, I discovered I could write songs 🤦♂️ I did the demo cd cds in the post and I had the good fortune to be auditioned by the head of A&R at Sony. It was a good few years ago, but after several bottles of wine, he explained how the music industry works… I decided that even if I was ‘signed’ it was never an ‘industry’ that I could work in. So now I write and record just because I can for my own satisfaction and upload them to YT. It’s more of a repository I suppose and something for my boys to listen to when I’m not here… 🤷♂️
@szrnkabela
2 жыл бұрын
Giorgio by Moroder "I definitely wanted to become a musician It was almost impossible because, it was The dream was so big That I didn't see any chance"
@notacockroach1633
2 жыл бұрын
It's never too late, so have at it!
@A-D-D-F_Toxic
2 жыл бұрын
“You can do whatever you want. So nobody told me what to do, and there was no preconception of what to do”
@DrumWild
2 жыл бұрын
"My name is Giovanni Giorgio, but everybody calls me Giorgio."
@thevelvetshadow
Жыл бұрын
This is great! I also have grieved my childhood dream of 'getting signed'. The industry has changed a lot since then and the internet DIY approach allows so many to make a go via the DIY route. This is a great change! Although at first potentially overwhelming, it's so much more empowering for artists. :) Respect & love to all x
@MrJones-ge5sl
2 жыл бұрын
I completely agree with most of this. Not only do you maintain control of your career and rise and fall on your own merits, but you may also avoid some of the destructive elements of the machine that tend to chew up people and spit them out unless they maintain their high level of success and manage to avoid the pitfalls that torpedo so many musical lives.
@JamieAndersonMusic
2 жыл бұрын
I've made my living as a musician since the eighties. I never pursued the major label route. Instead, I concentrated on growing my mailing list, booking gigs, writing songs, touring and doing promo. I've had a myriad of jobs to supplement all that, from writing for a music licensing firm to teaching music. You have to be resourceful and not put all your faith in labels, streaming platforms or even KZitem. Do your own thing and enjoy making music. If you get signed, great. If not, so what? We have enough Lady Gagas. (Not a slam, btw, I love her music.)
@nedim_guitar
2 жыл бұрын
You should tell your story on Allen Epley's podcast Third Gear Scratch. He takes with many musicians and other artists about why they're doing what they're doing, and how they're able to do it. Turns out a lot of artists have other jobs, part time jobs or parallel work along with their main creative output.
@cupcakekamikaze6455
2 жыл бұрын
i've found NOTHING is easier than making $$$$ as a musician....with NO effort. Because I ignored 100% of tradition, cuz tradition is DUMB, anti-thought. I can go out anywhere there are PEOPLE right now (ex: tourist towns) and set up my battery amp and my electronic uke and my loop pedal [3 items!] and IMMEDIATELY strangers start calling me a genius and throwing money at me. Every time. But Social Media has me shadowbanned all over so no way to SHARE ALL THE SECRETS we've found, with fellow musicians! (Cuz the industry does NOT want you to find out you don't need even YT!) Ask mary to help us teach musicians how to DEFEAT Social Media etc!
@JamieAndersonMusic
2 жыл бұрын
@@nedim_guitar Most of the musicians I know have other jobs. I've been lucky in that all those other jobs have had something to do with music.
@giorassiccuriosity1796
2 жыл бұрын
True treasure are hardly discovered by everyone. You’re a jewel in that treasure and I along with others are lucky enough to have found you.
@sarahsounzcave
2 жыл бұрын
Being able to define success and not having to tie a dollar figure to that is huge. I saw an add for a master class and the line that's stuck with me is...in so many words, "If your music connects with just one person and their world is brightened by it then the whole journey is worth it." That's the guide I've currently worked with. That and remembering it's really about the journey and not a specific destination that's kept me from losing myself to all the noise that can come up. thank you for showing us how you've grown on your journey and showing us what we really need isn't always what we think we want.
@kennethb.drinkard2010
2 жыл бұрын
Mary is so lovely and a great musician and performer, I wish her much luck,she is fabulous
@MountainDewComacho494
Жыл бұрын
I listen to your music on KZitem music and add your tracks to my own playlists. I enjoy your music and wish you success.
@shotokanads3325
2 жыл бұрын
If it was easy, everyone would be doing it. The fact that you are so passionate about what you do means everything. Things that push you mentally and physically will always generate the best rewards, even if only within yourself. You are highly talented and people that listen to you, with or without musical skill, will always stop and listen. Making a living from something we enjoy so much is the hardest thing and life will always challenge you on that. Just follow the dream and live life how you want to with 100% passion, the rest will hopefully fall into place. I can't play the guitar but I can recognise potential when I see it. Keep going Mary and never stop believing in yourself.
@KieranChakravorty
Жыл бұрын
My parents always taught me the best music is in the independent/live/underground scene. Excellent vid.
@arthurlocke3130
2 жыл бұрын
Really great to see your personal and professional growth over the years. While this information is common knowledge among us who have been doing this for decades and beyond, it's great you are sharing this awareness from your own growing pains with others that don't know these sad realities. Nice job Mary! Love to see you keep at it and growing!
@GeoffGummer
2 жыл бұрын
Nothing more pleasant to hear than a sensible, wise, and talented person on youtube... few and far between imho. I wish you all the best.
@wildem4n
2 жыл бұрын
My God! I have no idea who you are; but if you can write a song like you can talk in such honesty then your already a superstar!!!.... DEFINITELY Subbing. Thank you... WOW..........WOW
@joannafinnis9035
2 жыл бұрын
I agree with all you say. I'm nowhere near successful in the eyes of the music industry or social media or anything to be honest, but I feel very successful because I'm free to collaborate with whoever I like, write the music I wish to write and be my authentic self. It's artistic freedom, I'll never give it up and I love seeing folks doing the same thing.
@chuckcrunch1
2 жыл бұрын
you're quite a talent and having 66 subs is a crying shame . one quick question , why did you close commenting on your videos ? . it seems a little counter productive as KZitem uses commenting as part of the algorithm and it's good feedback and a way to connect with people on a more personal level
@joannafinnis9035
2 жыл бұрын
@@chuckcrunch1 Thank you!! My research tells me KZitem turns off comments for tracks that have been distributed by CDbaby etc. however all my other tunes/vids are open for comments :)
@chuckcrunch1
2 жыл бұрын
@@joannafinnis9035 Oh ok, thanks !
@noname-ng6sj
2 жыл бұрын
You wouldn't write the way you do if you actually felt successful.
@noname-ng6sj
2 жыл бұрын
@@chuckcrunch1 How do you not know that this is the case? It's been a thing for 3 years now. You really must not listen to any independent artists.
@DrRusty5
2 жыл бұрын
I guess the Issues at the heart of this, is that we all need to remember that record labels are businesses and therefore their only concern is themselves. The artists are solely resources to achieve the aim of making money.
@tahoma6889
2 жыл бұрын
Thank you Mary. I was live on stage in 1977. I totally understand . In those days, a contract was all there was. You are doing good without one. Stay in it.
@whatnow9159
2 жыл бұрын
Wise choice. It's all about the journey. All the best.
@brianwest2775
2 жыл бұрын
Mary, I love your speaking voice. You would probably do well as an audiobook narrator.
@jamieslate64
Жыл бұрын
Nice, truthful, insight, Mary. Thanks for telling it honestly.
@songsforsale9937
2 жыл бұрын
She's almost 100% Right! That's why I'm starting my own Label. I have 2 studios. I believe that if I continue along this avenue I will be more likely to succeed. I'm already taking away market share. I burn CDs, busk, and attend open mics.
@FragileCreatures
2 жыл бұрын
Yes Mary! Tell it like it is. X
@carlsvensson6970
2 жыл бұрын
Great talk. 25 years ago when Internet was coming around everbody thought it would usher in the demise of major record labels. I cant belive they are still around....
@IniresMirrors
Жыл бұрын
Being an indie is a ton of work, but you're absolutely right: record labels are a pretty bad deal for the vast majority of artists. The royalty split, the cost of touring, and the potential for ending up in debt should the required record not sell enough (or if the required tour doesn't sell enough) are all very real dangers for anyone that doesn't project just the right image at just the right time. And really, self-promotion is a lot easier today than it used to be. Targeted advertising is cheap and pretty effective, and one can get pretty creative with it.
@KaneNox
2 жыл бұрын
As a fully independent artist that played the "Label" game for a number of years. This vid is 100% accurate! Well done!
@alobassmann
2 жыл бұрын
This is Golden. Thanks Mary!
@svenzia
2 жыл бұрын
I am happy you built such a huge following here on KZitem. You are awesome, Really enjoy your music :)
@marklovelace297
2 жыл бұрын
Love your music Mary!
@flamencohack2553
2 жыл бұрын
You won’t give up .. talent at least your doing something you love even if it is on KZitem .. most of the music is throw away , your channel is great , real guitar real voices .. It’s great Mary .
@RafiAnimates
Жыл бұрын
Couldn’t agree more. More power to you. Prince blazed this trail way back in the mid 90s and spoke extensively about this very issue and the way forward. I’m excited to see you grow as an artist on your terms and with the audience you nurture directly.
@keefergreen5888
2 жыл бұрын
This is SUPER informative...Thanks Mary...
@mikemeengs5720
2 жыл бұрын
I was "lucky" enough to sign with Miramar back in '97. Never made any money. As a matter of fact, once signed, they talked me into quiting my cover band, and I had to get a cooking job. A year layer, Miramar sold to Unipix, and it was all over. Now, I'm 60 and prep food at a restaurant. So much for my big dream. If the music industry was what it is now back in the early 80's, I'd be a retired dentist by now. I'm still creating new music though...the best music I've ever created in fact. Just because I love creating new music.
@sincerusone
2 жыл бұрын
Invaluable insight, thank you!!
@bhanson4917
Жыл бұрын
I remember just after my 31st bday finally accepting I was never going to be a rock star, the kind of music I liked to play was fading from style, and I was getting a bit old to be "cool" anymore... A decade later I'm happy to have given up my ego and finally just play for the f'n joy of it with and for people who want to have a good time. Never gonna be famous or make a dime, but playing small shows and making people happy is reward enough at this point :)
@mikerandall1598
Жыл бұрын
Great story and delivery🤘
@candybanks8717
Жыл бұрын
The indomitable spirit of Mary Spender! Good album title! Following this channel has been a free education in the modern music industry. I'd stand on the corner and play through a loud speaker before I'd sign with a major label.
@jasonwitt95
2 жыл бұрын
I love that you used Fat Wreck Chords as an example!
@christianboddum8783
2 жыл бұрын
Great stuff Mary!
@youarehere9120
2 жыл бұрын
Thank you Mary! So much info in a short video. We benefit from your years of experience and ability to articulate that experience.
@LoneArtist
Жыл бұрын
so true I love being an independent artist, I know I am am not the best but I enjoy making music. thanks for this video
@dieterheinrich8377
Жыл бұрын
Super insights. Grateful.
@professorronsprivateclassc2850
2 жыл бұрын
Though I dabble in music and have no "big dreams," I always find your videos informative and inspiring. DIY all the way.
@63mckenzie
2 жыл бұрын
About 30 years ago, I was in a band with a guy whose uncle had signed a record deal with his band in the 70s with EMI. The stories he told us terrified us and put me off trying to pursue a music career. EMI dropped his band after one album to concentrate on another act. That other act was Queen!
@tonyjones1560
2 жыл бұрын
Yikes! Sounds like the experience of a high school friend. Senior year, his band got signed and had to go to New York to record their album (his mom made their manager pay for a tutor in order to go). So, off they went and did the album but before it could be released, there was a major shakeup in the C-suite of the label. The new regime decided to take the label “in a new direction” and my friend’s band’s album was shelved AND they were dropped from the label… He wound up staying in NYC doing session work (guitar) and eventually became a fairly successful producer but completely abandoned the performance side of the music business. At least two members of the band actually sold their instruments, equipment and bailed out of the business completely. “We were kids, and the label had all the power. There was nothing we could do…” This happened in the early 1980s. I heard the story 20+ years later when I ran into him at a bookstore.
@danabiondo9243
2 жыл бұрын
Another Excellent Video Explaining Inside The Music Industry. Love it Mary, How you Educate us on The M.M.M. Music, Money, Machine. I would call it - Giving Up The Nightmare on Wall Street. :). I Had The Same Nightmare. Soooo Glad I Woke Up from The Dream Machine!
@horrifyinggelatinousblob
2 жыл бұрын
Went to school for it, learned all the recording techniques etc.. now i'm happily working in a office and I come home and make music for fun when i feel like it. There is simply so much music out there, unless you're connected or EXCEPTIONALLY dedicated and have financial comfort to allow you to pursue it there is no real reason to think you're going to be an recording artist and make a career over it.
@lawrencerasmus
Жыл бұрын
I'm old and had a blast playing in small clubs in Hollywood as well as opening for some real big name groups but I couldn't imagine with the internet and today's music industry even having a dream , to corrupt .👌
@PappaBear_yt
2 жыл бұрын
Thank you, Mary! This is such a good and informative video. 👍🏻❤️❤️🥰🥰💐💐
@carlosaguilera9933
Жыл бұрын
I love your music Keep going!!!!
@clearlyalec
2 жыл бұрын
Needed that! Thank you!
@MrWilson-WithaPbass
2 жыл бұрын
This was good , Thanks Mary .
@roytiller4537
Жыл бұрын
You know you could also explore doing voice over work such as narrating audio books or something like that.. One of the things I love most about your videos is just listening to your speaking voice. But I'm not saying and would never tell you to give up on your dreams if it's what you want keep going after it as long as it takes.. I believe in you what ever you do....Love your videos, you can do it!
@tommypham8742
Жыл бұрын
That Vocal Processing is clean af. Good Recording keep it up!
@tommypricemusic
2 жыл бұрын
Thank you Mary I been a long time subscriber and really really really long time Musian lol and to hear these words you said means there is some hope for us Musians that keep diggin in the trenches.. and cuttin our teeth on our heroes.. I’m a country singer / guitarist / bassist / drummer and I got to do some really great things in music well, to me lol and to hear your speak those words on this video gives me hope please keep the videos coming we all enjoy them :)
@boydwyatt
Жыл бұрын
Im an old muso now. I started in thebplaying 8n bands 8n the 70,s and made a living in the industry in various roles until I no longer had a passion for it 8n jy 50,s. The biz has changed dramiticaly in all its forms ( live gigging , recorded , production, dissemination etc etc) in that time. It was always hard, now its damn near impossible. If you dont love it and have a burning passion to do only that.... get into something else and do it as a hobby. It started dying in the 90,s now its rotting.
@atleengelstad5303
2 жыл бұрын
This is spot on!
@joelcraig6416
2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for teaching me
@8point6
2 жыл бұрын
Mando said it the best, This is the way!
@hermandarr6274
2 жыл бұрын
Your Mary Spender is why you're at this junction in time.
@BrianTurboT
2 жыл бұрын
Sound's like 'SOUND ADVICE' to me Mary 👍 ...
@MaryMichelleWorthy
2 жыл бұрын
This is bloody awesome
@rockguitarmodes
2 жыл бұрын
Good advice: Ultimately make the music you want to and put it out there. There are loads of digital distribution companies. During lockdown I released 3 albums (we all thought there was a chance we wouldn’t make it) and got decent streams of around 90k on Apple Music. Interest has dropped off now but the music is still there for posterity. Never give up on creativity Mary, keep going
@tonyawoodmusic
2 жыл бұрын
Thank you Mary for this video!! Perfectly timed, sage advice!
@goodchildmusic0
2 жыл бұрын
WOW. WOW.
@CassanFranizzi
2 жыл бұрын
@petem6291
Жыл бұрын
Mary , I have a feeling you will be very successfu.l you are a GREAT musician as good as a lot of the musician you spoke of . you are still very young . in the words of Winston Churchill NEVER , NEVER,NEVER give up. You will get there , be patient . Pete
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