i think she couldnt handle her visions and the lost of her children she probably already saw how it was going to play out
@sweetsushiness
22 күн бұрын
she had no visions in the book
@micheleford4282
22 күн бұрын
@@sweetsushiness clearly they are veering from original content i assumed we were talking about the show but irregardless having to point out a child to die you gave birth too would be enough to drive you to unalive yourself.
@sweetsushiness
22 күн бұрын
@@micheleford4282 i thought you talked about the books since u spoke in past tense. she has not lost plural children yet
@TheBerkeleyBeauty
29 күн бұрын
I ride with Helaena, even though she’s a green. Besides her murdered son, she is the only truly innocent soul and all of this.
@haleyadams731
21 күн бұрын
She didn’t deserve anything she and her children were the only Greens I really liked besides Daeron
@crinklescat1871
21 күн бұрын
Same. To both comments. I’m on rhaenyras side but in book and show she didn’t wish any harm on her half sister. She actually had a relationship with her in the book, as much as alicent would allow(so not much) I hate how they toned down how evil Otto and alicent truly were.
@melissaclark1051
3 күн бұрын
I would not say she is a green because she has not fought back in anyway. And has no hate for anyone.
@crinklescat1871
3 күн бұрын
@@melissaclark1051 exactly. Yet she is one who genuinely suffers the most. Well, they all suffer, but her and the small folk basically anyone innocent.. I loved that she called out Aemond. Like you could just feel the disappointment/what have you become type feeling radiating from her. No one else would say anything that episode, but she did and I loved the music for that scene.
@rakantopinibl5736
2 күн бұрын
Yeah and the younger children (Aegon III&Viserys III)
@anngleeson4736
Ай бұрын
Her visions killed her
@laurelsilberman5705
Ай бұрын
Even without any concrete evidence stated here, I’d go ahead and say it’s highly likely that this is true. I think Viserys thought he was a dreamer because he wanted it to be true so badly but wasn’t (since he was a generally non-violent person and so he wished for the other magical ability known for manifesting in their family-some form of premonitive clairvoyance, but which is notoriously difficult to decipher and can have deadly consequences if mistranslated, which they often are) since his dragon died after only riding him one time and he never claimed another, I think he wished to be special elsewise; I think the fact that Viserys thought one vivid dream he had one time was a vision so badly that it had a similar effect/impact whether it was a true dragon dream or not because he treated it like one, it could be that the combined desire for greatness despite ruling in a time of peace, plus the knowledge of Aegon’s prophecy being introduced, he was seeing signs where there were none. I’m just saying it seems like almost all of the true dragon dreamers died young, including Helaena, with maybe the exception of Aegon the Unlikely who didn’t seem to have dragon dreams in his youth, but seemed almost like once all his cousins and brothers who were dreamers died, their visions sort of like, started tormenting him instead. So he lived to an older age but his manner of death seems tied to prophecy and misinterpretation of it, if you put all the pieces of info about Summerhall together from the lore.
@Eddard_Stark
11 күн бұрын
Could this be due to the incest maybe?
@LatinIndigo
10 күн бұрын
she saw season 8 of GOT
@anngleeson4736
10 күн бұрын
@@LatinIndigo And the last season of Lost
@914gwen
22 күн бұрын
This is her mom and grandfather's fault. They were so greedy they didn't even think of the consequences. I wonder if she would've been better off marrying a Stark. Great allies and get treated better.
@TheKrazysexykool
6 күн бұрын
Very true. I hate the Hightowers. They started the whole conflict
@tiffanymcginty1250
29 күн бұрын
Poor dreamer she needed someone to know what she was and train her properly
@bekleedee
23 күн бұрын
Brother-husband, uncle-husband, cousin-sister-wife. I'll never not cackle like a lunatic hearing that
@brittneyhamilton8784
18 күн бұрын
It was the same window Tommen jumped out of
@jimeno726
Ай бұрын
The death of her first son was terrible. But the death of her second son could easily be considered even worse. So yeah, she definitely went crazy and they blamed the blacks.
@stephaniemarie3587
Ай бұрын
How did her second son die? I don’t mind spoilers
@KeiranNight
Ай бұрын
@@stephaniemarie3587was basically torn apart by a mob. Rhaenyra put out a bounty to have all the remaining greens captured and when the people got Maelor and killed his guard they didn’t know whether to bring him in or not and they all fought about it and killed him in the process
@stephaniemarie3587
Ай бұрын
@@KeiranNight fuckin brutal
@ruthcog
27 күн бұрын
I can't with this story... it makes me soo sad. I hope the show will tone this part down cause it's just too brutal too watch and even hear. Poor children and Helaena didn't deserve this shit.@@KeiranNight
@aishariel9924
27 күн бұрын
@@ruthcog I could be wrong but in the show Helena only has 2 children. I need to rewatch it to remember.
@jonathanl9229
21 күн бұрын
Calling it now- Laras kills her.
@sadfaerie5817
5 күн бұрын
Either that or she gets in an argument with Alicent and Alicent pushes her 'accidentally'
@Terribads
10 күн бұрын
So she was the Tommen of the prequels
@nicksmithnutmilk
Ай бұрын
Bro Helaena died a year before Aegon 😂😂
@user-ym2nh4xd5o
Ай бұрын
no brother. she was told aegon died making her more instable
@nicksmithnutmilk
Ай бұрын
@@user-ym2nh4xd5oI forgot Aegon was thought to be dead until he captured Dragonstone . Yeah , now I remember it 😂😂
@prettycyber8332
Ай бұрын
@@nicksmithnutmilk she still died before him
@dennisaerob
Ай бұрын
Yes, but she thought Aegon died after He went missing
@randycrawford1132
Ай бұрын
@@prettycyber8332she thinks he died before her
@kmaxx4thestiv367
22 күн бұрын
To think this was all because of her mother and grandfather ambitions.
@guillembonet3350
Ай бұрын
larys strong is the culprit
@caitlinmillington6094
25 күн бұрын
Brother husband is CRAZY 🤣
@Kelly-nt2rq
23 күн бұрын
Yeah.... just what yhe he'll do they mean by that
@Itssharona143
10 күн бұрын
@Kelly-nt2rq he is her brother but also her husband...brother husband...targaryens en their incestuous ways 😅
@alisadruzhinina9274
23 күн бұрын
that moment when she rises her head under the voile, she really looks like Aemond.
@missoOs0
9 күн бұрын
And the voile . Looks like cuts in her face
@AlexS-oj8qf
Ай бұрын
Why people always say Heeleena. Her name is Hay-lay-na.
@Psychoma99
29 күн бұрын
AI
@capysarah
21 күн бұрын
Her daughter Jaehaera died the same way: fell from a window and impaled on spikes, with rumors of foul play
@betsyempson3188
19 күн бұрын
Her brother died that day hours before her and they are perhaps lovers. I believe she had a vision of his death and jumped from her window
@WaleeahBrooks
10 күн бұрын
Which Brother?
@persephone342
7 күн бұрын
Aemond.
@theone9113
2 күн бұрын
She and aemond were lovers ? 😳
@persephone342
Күн бұрын
@@theone9113 that’s a theory that she and Aemond were lovers.
@s.mabbasali8790
29 күн бұрын
She is so beautiful ❤
@Okbyeji1234
Ай бұрын
Poor girl
@Janellabelle
19 күн бұрын
I think she was pushed. When J is murdered she tells Alicent they killed "the boy". I think she distanced herself emotionally from that child because she could see his murder. Thats why she calls him "the boy" imo.
@laurelsilberman5705
Ай бұрын
I never hate the terms “brother-husband” or “sister-wife” any less, no matter how many times I hear them. Barf.
@GreatWebSeries1
Ай бұрын
Are u incestor?? 😂
@verycool2050
27 күн бұрын
don't knock it until you try it
@charmedprince
5 күн бұрын
Lol@@verycool2050
@DeMonfa13
20 күн бұрын
She looks somewhat like joffrey in the shot with the veil
@Sundplash.1217
10 күн бұрын
Poor Helaena. Her family was evil and power hungry and cared nothing about her . Alicent never showed any love.nor affection for her children .
@angelafahlenkamp9311
10 күн бұрын
Because they were always pawns to be played with in The Game of Thrones 🤷♀️
@annavictrix
5 күн бұрын
Not to mention finding out her last child got ripped apart by a mob.
@MissCandyTattoo
29 күн бұрын
The murder of her son is what triggered her mental decline
@user-rb4sw4qg3q
17 күн бұрын
Now watching the new episode I wonder if Alicent doesn’t kill her to keep her secret safe. She doesn’t seem to heartbroken.
@anjelica948
10 күн бұрын
I think Alicent would be much more likely to use her power as Dowager Queen (and her alliance with Larys) to keep her secrets, rather than resort to violence against her children. Alicent is flawed for sure, and even if she really has no love for Aegon or Aemond, she does appear to care about Helaena. She’s the only one she tries to make a connection with and treat with kindness.
@garlantyrell6368
7 күн бұрын
@@anjelica948That’s because Helaena is her only daughter, so of course she will be nicer to her. Even though she kinda treated her the same way Otto treated her back when she was a child. After all it was Alicent who married Helaena off to Aegon the same way Otto married her to Viserys. And both ladies didn’t want to marry who they were supposed to.
@TK-un1pu
9 күн бұрын
Is there a possibility that she just couldn’t handle or get others to understand her visions? I mean she’s been warning folk before something tragic happens and they call her crazy. 🤷🏾♀️ Imagine seeing a tragedy before it happens, trying to warn people, they mock you and then you live and see the tragedy in real time. 💔
@beloslavachilingirova2921
7 күн бұрын
It’s the Cassandra theme, it always makes me sad
@alexthievery7834
3 күн бұрын
She lowkey my favorite character
@blakbirdlok42069
22 күн бұрын
Helena deserved jace 😭
@EVILx3MPIRE
26 күн бұрын
She looks too much like Geoffrey; I can't unsee it
@Meldiocre
20 күн бұрын
I think I know what it is you’re seeing. They both have the pale, blond coloring, but more than that they both have round, short faces. Most notably probably is that they both have a short philtrum, the area between the nose and mouth. Regarding the mouth, they also both have small, pert mouths with thin lips. So their lower facial features can end up looking the tiniest bit squashed together. She’s still very pretty tho imo where in GOT I thought they had a lot of nerve to try to present the Joffrey actor as being one of the most handsome young men in Westeros. Uhm… o.o Haha don’t get me wrong tho he’s an amazing actor just a very awkward looking man
@LadyRose2023
25 күн бұрын
force to marry her brother and have his children.. yep.. that would make a person a bit unhappy..
@capysarah
21 күн бұрын
Not to defend Aegon II too much, but he was in the same position. It's clear he didn't want to marry Helaena. His mother and grandfather ordered him to procreate with his sister. He tries to be a good father to the son that results, only for the boy to be murdered and his mother and grandfather to use the body for political gain. Alicent and Otto treated their children/grandchildren like objects and regarded their free will as an inconvenience.
@ninaxwings
Күн бұрын
I really wish she had accepted the clemency offered in the books and joined the blacks. She needed help with her visions and I just feel like The blacks are more knowledgeable about these things. Even better if she brought the children. Her brother husband would’ve flipped his shit but at least they wouldn’t have been in the castle for blood and cheese 😢
@dceasedbrickfan74
7 күн бұрын
She deserved better. Her mom didn’t.
@S.E.-hw6zh
4 күн бұрын
Her husband lived a long and blessed life. He was the ancestor of Danaerys and her brother
@user-eh4ht3nz3h
Күн бұрын
Helena dies before Aegon while Rhanerya holds Kings Landing.
@Serena_9
Ай бұрын
I think she is introvert.
@broklynbby
Ай бұрын
she's autistic
@robertblume2951
8 күн бұрын
Based on had movements and sensory issues shown, I believe she is playing the character as autistic.
@SmittyB88
8 күн бұрын
An she tells her mom she forgives her for putting them against her sister and basically destroying the Targarayen legacy
@darthdigital666
3 күн бұрын
She had a vision of season 8 of Game of Thrones. Saw the coffee cup from Starbucks... ...it was too much for her.....
@athirarajan187
Күн бұрын
She didn't deserve this 😢
@anyashindler3781
24 күн бұрын
Aegon II outlived Haelena. So she was grieved by his death.
@minigrande1939
19 сағат бұрын
In the story of Troy . because it's so huge .there's a part not many know Cassandra was the high priestess of the temple of Apollo.Apollo showered her with gifts one giving her the sight to see future events because she did not defeat to Apollos advances (greek gods could not take gifts back) Apollo cursed her and said "she can see the future but no one will believe her" when Helen walks into the court of Troy Cassandra goes crazy tell king Priam to get rid of her for she is going to destroy The kingdom,of course they all laughed at her.. I believe Helena is based upon Cassandra
@Niko-ys9ie
3 күн бұрын
Based off how these show runners are portraying the Green side, she will most likely be thrown into the spikes by one of her family members. Wish they would be more even when it comes to showing the good and bads of both because that’s the whole point in the story. Neither side is right or wrong
@racheldawn65
Ай бұрын
Prophets are always tortured; no one acts on their visions, so they foresee horrific atrocities but it doesn't matter. So they're forced to watch as they play out, knowing they could be stopped but won't be. It's a torturous existence. They often end up begging for help until it drives them mad. I think almost anyone would lose their mind if they'd experienced what she did. When you try to stop horrors but you can't it makes you lose faith in all of humanity and you become an extreme introvert and begin talking to yourself as a type of solace; it's too hard to watch the evil play out and the good side never fighting it bc they don't believe it's real. Every prophet ends up half mad and they're never successful. It's a tragic role. You can't change human nature, even if you can see the future - you can't change the material plane until it's already too late.
@Darkness-ie2yl
27 күн бұрын
even just being intelligent enough to be able to foresee outcomes has the same effect. no one listens, some are jealous of your ability as if you asked for it. you must watch misery after preventable misery unfold.
@TimesFM4532
23 күн бұрын
Tbf her and the children where the ultimate victims
@buddastud5534
10 күн бұрын
I think this actress was very lucky to get this part. It’s not often u see a princess that is so homely get such a part.
@lyndajaeger4477
2 күн бұрын
She's very pretty, eye of the beholder I guess but pretty rude to say someone is homely.
@josephtalmadge3108
18 сағат бұрын
Wow, joffeyerys younger brother jumped out the window in GOT when his wife was blown up to his death as well. See I never read the books
@MiguelGarcia-hl5jo
7 күн бұрын
OH EM GEEEEEEEEEEEE I wonder if they’re going to have her jump out the SAME WINDOW in the Red keep that Aegon pissed out of first season and where Tommen Baratheon JUMPED OUT IN GOT ….. something about that window
@lacied4020
7 күн бұрын
In the book her brother husband kills raenyra...after Helena had already killed herself so that would make no sense
@byoung8529
29 күн бұрын
Poor baby :( x
@Random_UserName4269
Ай бұрын
She may have succumbed but I don’t believe her daughter did. The Peakes did that!
@jc0495
29 күн бұрын
I believe the same!
@jom4237
5 күн бұрын
Probably Alicent pushed her and that's why Helena said to her "i forgive you"
@prettycyber8332
Ай бұрын
Always believes someone deleted her
@jakemac1396
27 күн бұрын
She dies before her husband! She kills herself way before Aegon II gets assassinated. Am I wrong here from the book version?
@alexandrenicolaslonz3007
Ай бұрын
The pause before "Heeleena" 😂
@theplot_twist
Ай бұрын
😂😂😂😂😂😂
@CherryJuli
8 күн бұрын
She was probably killed. I can see how people were just fed up with the Targaryans and their senseless wars.
@kenzieblossom6974
13 күн бұрын
You know this show is messed up when you hear brother husband The story line itself is cool with the dragons and all but I can't get myself to attach to these characters because they are all incest or forced to marry brothers and sisters and uncles and aunts. I can't get past that fact despite it having been common back then. Thats my opinion and thats ok
@lachicafun
10 күн бұрын
She was dead before Aegon was.
@gageczajkowski7755
10 күн бұрын
She killed herself before Aegon 2 died
@nglijie5716
14 күн бұрын
Her death is going to break the broken Internet.
@BILLYRAYBOB9789
16 күн бұрын
Life went downhill after mercia
@daviddrennan1759
9 күн бұрын
She married her brother.... Yup suicide was in her future.
@anajc9130
20 күн бұрын
Has this been shown already? Did she die in ep 2?
@anamariecameron7874
28 күн бұрын
😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢
@CordsZ
21 күн бұрын
Helaena pre-deceased Aegon.
@benndarayta9156
Ай бұрын
Wait, that was her son that was killed? I thought it was her younger siblings?
@merlynfereira9631
Күн бұрын
hee-lee-na 😂
@melissaisloud7404
22 күн бұрын
Larys…
@nancykent5784
4 күн бұрын
Larys did it
@adrielotero8747
26 күн бұрын
Didn’t she die before her aegon? I thought her death was the reason the ppl rebelled against Rhaenyra & killed the dragons dragons.
@karimmoorad9649
Ай бұрын
"Hilina" 😭
@theplot_twist
Ай бұрын
im sorryyyy 😭
@karimmoorad9649
Ай бұрын
@@theplot_twist Valā kirine issa. 👍
@jean-claudeabela1877
24 күн бұрын
What if it was Larys Strong who pushed her? What a twist!
@theplot_twist
24 күн бұрын
o god
@nikapol25
17 күн бұрын
Did a Tommen or Tommen did a Heleana cause she went before him
@ivystrong7203
10 күн бұрын
She's gonna lose another child?
@markyinina1710
19 күн бұрын
What that fuck is it i didnt even watch the episode 3 ,damn
@j.zurich1
11 күн бұрын
Why not
@rebeckahpottle2337
23 күн бұрын
Uncle dad
@5602KK
Ай бұрын
Bro spoiler alert wtf
@first0last0
12 күн бұрын
Why cheese?
@KajalBisht-df5ou
Ай бұрын
You are pronouncing her name wrong .
@ItachiWindsor
23 күн бұрын
This is inaccurate. Helaena dies way before Aegon
@OathBlivion15
24 күн бұрын
Bro what the hell!?!?! I thought this would be a metaphorical short video on the end of Helaena's emotional well-being or something following episode 2, and you just come straight out with MASSIVE things that haven't happened yet? Where is the spoiler warning or at least a "from the books" warning. You just ruined my day, thanks.
@angelafahlenkamp9311
10 күн бұрын
That will teach you not to watch this stuff if you don't want it ruined, this show is a prequel anyways...most know what happens already
@lawrencereid2767
Ай бұрын
First to take the Black 🖤
@jeffreyarcherrefugio6300
28 күн бұрын
What a weirdo
@BrookScottOfficial
26 күн бұрын
it all because Daemon Targaryen started it all. he must be dead in the first place.
@princesspumpkin4296
Ай бұрын
Moment I realized how in Game of Thrones tv how similar or just dejavu it deaths Lannisters traitor house. Robert some of biological children were killed like Helaena's sons was killed. Just like what did to Rhaegar's children too. Second one- The right hand man Jon Arryn die mysterious circumstances that possibly was poison by Cersei own order that possibly almost revealed affair between her and Jamie. And two children poison by traitors when they are traitors themselves. Third one - how her youngest son died just like Heleana 😳 it was she possessed him herself at moment.. 😮 Imagine in books if they really do die how similar it would be death of Targaryens as if they got curse killing Rhaegar and his family themselves.
@AmiWhiteWolf
Ай бұрын
Cersei didn't order the death of Jon Arryn. Lysa Tully poison her husband Jon Arryn. Joffrey ordered Robert’s bastards to die which they stabbed them to death.
@princesspumpkin4296
Ай бұрын
@@AmiWhiteWolf it's same thing that happened Rhaegars babies, Helaena. 🥲 They didn't care if it was infant or young or older. They just harm those kids that didn't do nothing wrong hated by their family's actions. It kinda reminds me of Marie Antoinette's children, they were too young understand. It capture the boy mysterious died by 'illness' and they say sister was tormented. We were not in that era learn what they did to those poor babies.
@mjean6762
27 күн бұрын
@AmiWhiteWolf Cersei was the one who poisoned Jon Arryn. She knew he was suspecting that her children were not Robert's and in fact Jamie's. She even has a conversation with Jamie that she is afraid he may have told someone before he died. That's when Lysa writes to Cat and warns her to fear the Lannisters. That's why she fled back to the Eyrie. She knew they killed her husband.
@lelejordan09
27 күн бұрын
@@mjean6762you obviously didn’t pay attention it is explicitly stated that Lysa killed Jon Arryn from her own mouth for Littlefinger later in the series she reveals this before littlefinger kills her. This is both in the show and in the book
@princesspumpkin4296
27 күн бұрын
@@mjean6762 😳Whoa ..It makes sense by mysterious deaths now, Jon was like Edward Stark honorable guy and he knew something shady going on.
@rocker76m88
28 күн бұрын
I thought she had a boy and a girl? Why is everyone saying she had 2 sons?
@seepmukta
28 күн бұрын
2 twins Jaehaeyrs and Jahaeyra (aged 6) and a younger son Maelor (aged 2 I guess)
@rocker76m88
28 күн бұрын
@@seepmukta ok thanks for clarifying
@anoldranger1033
Ай бұрын
😂 bro handing out spoilers
@theplot_twist
Ай бұрын
lol 😂
@karlalehnhoff6069
Ай бұрын
I dont even remember who she was?😅
@broklynbby
Ай бұрын
she's the daughter daenerys and rob stark. u should rewatch game of thrones
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