I'm 37 and I try not to get into arguments on the Internet about pointless stuff anymore, but there are SO MANY people in the comments here saying "Why doesn't the Enterprise just keep firing all their phasers and torpedoes instead of only firing a couple times?" Well, there are two answers to that: 1. Some of it is left to the imagination. To make good drama, you don't have to--and shouldn't--show every detail. You have to know what to include and what to leave out. We're supposed to trust that Captain Picard knew what he was doing. The Enterprise fired its weapons exactly as much as it should have. Was all of it depicted onscreen? That's up to your imagination. This is a problem with a lot of action movies nowadays: They think that big fiery explosions everywhere all the time makes a battle more "epic." It doesn't. Tight pacing and a strong narrative make a battle more epic. Just look at The Wrath of Khan: The Enterprise fires its phasers only three times in the climactic battle in the Mutara Nebula (and its torpedoes twice). Most of the battle is the tense pacing, and the storytelling of a game of cat and mouse. 2. Phasers aren't magic. I mean, okay, they're fictional, but in real life most applications requiring large bursts of power have a recharge time. It's quite a science to know when to release that energy for maximal effect. The distance and aspect of the Klingon ships would have been very important. Given these considerations, it makes sense to hold your fire until it can do the most good. Otherwise you're wasting energy you can't replace, and likely contributing to system overheating. The torpedoes are similar: They too would have a reloading time, and presumably there would be an optimal firing range, neither too close nor too far away, for their guidance systems to have the highest accuracy while affording minimal evasion time to the enemy.
@alanfrost75
4 жыл бұрын
Not to engage in an argument here, but here is my counter argument :D 1. Drama is nice, but not at the expense of any credibility. I mean imagine making a movie where there is a war scene and a squad is getting battered and shot to bits while they discuss their options calmly in the middle of the battle field. Then the sergeant occasionally and very dramatically tells one of them to fire. I also think that of all the shows (though all Trek fell into this trap) TNG was the worst in this respect. Even in TOS people had more of a tendency to just do their job. 2. I think they outlined official specifications for these ships. I remember we used them in Star Trek roleplaying games many moons ago. And you could fucking fire A LOT, and you could fire phasers and photons simultaneously or nearly simultaneously. So while this sounds nice, I do not think it is based in the "reality" of this world. I think they did it out of an exaggerated sense of drama. I love TNG, but not this part.
@somebuddyX
4 жыл бұрын
3. They had enough money and time to do exactly what they had on screen, and this was even with extra money added to the budget. Principal photography took place in mid-December 1989 and it aired 19th February 1990. With that amount of time it's amazing this episode is any good at all let alone it's a classic.
@davecrupel2817
4 жыл бұрын
@@alanfrost75 well spoke, Alan.
@davecrupel2817
4 жыл бұрын
@Ben Finny She didnt have to move away at all. She had the energy capacity to either buff her shields a ton, or to dish out *alot* more phaser & torp power. Why distract the Klingons when you can outright *destroy them?* Which, let's not kid ourselves, the E-D was more than capable of doing.
@Josh_Fredman
4 жыл бұрын
@@somebuddyX That's a good point. Budget limitations definitely force more to be left to the imagination. I think I saw in a TNG documentary that filming each individual shot of that glorious 6-foot Enterprise D model cost about $10,000. They filmed a bunch in this episode, and tried to get their money's worth by reusing a bunch of those shots (especially those Klingon ship shots) for the rest of the series. But it must have been an especially expensive episode to make, especially when considering the uniform changes, set redesign, and extra extras.
@theflyxx
3 жыл бұрын
“Captain’s log supplemental: Never use photon torpedo dispersal pattern Sierra ever again.”
@Dowlphin
2 жыл бұрын
Star Trek Picard: _"Captain's blog... Supplements! ... Daily. Don't forget."_
@1978rharris
2 жыл бұрын
I want to like this comment, but it’s at 47, and we’ll leave it at that huh?
@LandSharkEatsU
Жыл бұрын
Yeah Sierra sucks, to be certain.
@johnritcher5751
Жыл бұрын
It weakened the shields and helped destroy that target.
@skyborne80
10 ай бұрын
Janeway used Sierra in Basics, Part 1
@matthewsager925
4 жыл бұрын
"We have to make sure that history never forgets the name......Enterprise." One of the best lines of the series.
@AnakinMarcZaeger
4 жыл бұрын
One of the best lines ever said that ultimately ended up never being said. :P
@bleirdo_dude
3 жыл бұрын
Yes & yes.
@LTDANMAN44
3 жыл бұрын
I LOVE THIS
@jerseykaari
3 жыл бұрын
If this timeline were to continue, history would surely remember. But it would be a history written in Klingon, and it would be about that time they blew it to smithereens. Kind of like the way we remember the Bismarck or the Yamato.
@Pally356
3 жыл бұрын
I smiled when i heard that line in Star Trek online.
@theflyxx
4 жыл бұрын
If I were a crewman on the Enterprise, I would avoid Deck 14 at all costs during battles.
@jasonparis5635
3 жыл бұрын
Not to mention exploding panels during a entire battle.
@Canadianvoice
3 жыл бұрын
Deck 14 is composed of 2,545,656 explorable panels so I'm not surprised.
@ThunderAppeal
3 жыл бұрын
You said it. I was there, its not a fun ride.
@brandonhill2183
3 жыл бұрын
Deck 1 is usually never damaged.
@collincovid6950
3 жыл бұрын
On the previous Enterprise it was to avoid being one of the Away Parties, as they always got polished off
@jimeagle5509
2 жыл бұрын
The engineering scene at 3:15 is underrated. LaForge knows it’s all over - tells his crew to just go. I’ll stay here til the end.
@DavidNicholson101
2 жыл бұрын
I’m surprised you didn’t leave a response to my comment about Levar Burton’s acting. I whole heartedly agree. That whole scene was just intense. The dramatic music, Geordi’s slight panic, it made for a great scene. IMO the best battle in TNG.
@EdricLysharae
Жыл бұрын
He's a true Chief Engineer!
@nigelmurphy6761
10 ай бұрын
Yep just like the engineers on the Titanic. Go down with the ship very nobly while standing your ground
@Mustang-bk4ns
9 ай бұрын
@@nigelmurphy6761- Do you know of what you speak? The Titanic was really the Olympic and it was sank by its captain Edward Smith to kill 3 crime family heads. John Jacob Astor, Isador Strauss and Jonathan Guggenheim. They reportedly were against the installment of the Federal Reserve. April 1912 the Titanic goes down, Dec 1913 the Fed Reserve rises which then led to their 100 year plan to destroy the USA via 3 WARS. WW1+2, The Cold War and the never ending "War on terror". You should research the meeting on Jekyll Island in 1910. There is a video and book called "The Monster from Jekyll Island" where the demonic 13 family heads met to discuss this
@whuffer5103
7 ай бұрын
I'm still bummed he didnt roll under the compartment door while it was closing
@Bethos1247-Arne
2 жыл бұрын
"Lets make sure history never forget the name: Enterprise." You think it can't get better or more badass. "That will be the day". OMG.
@facelessman9224
3 жыл бұрын
When Picard personally fires the phasers they get a 2x damage multiplier.
@raven4k998
2 жыл бұрын
nope it's 10X not 2x he's not tasha🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@ihavegymnastics
8 ай бұрын
LOL
@arcantis8964
6 ай бұрын
and the klingons got "Battle Rage" afte rone of their ships died ^^
@steverobertson1729
2 жыл бұрын
I love the part where after Riker gets killed, Picard doesnt dwell on it but leaps over the railing to take over at tactical, and the shot of him keeping phaser fire on the klingons right to the end, even as flames envelop the bridge. He knew those precious few seconds at the end made the difference.
@stuntmonkey00
9 ай бұрын
Also: why is the com full of rocks lol.
@leetaeryeo5269
9 ай бұрын
@@stuntmonkey00honestly, that’s a bit of Star Trek cheesiness that I love. I think the explanation is that it’s supposed to be bits of the consoles being completely slagged, but the real reason is likely that making the set in such a way that the consoles could be “exploded” and reassembled for future use would be too time and money inefficient, so generic debris would be used to save time and money. Just the realities of filming television where you have to use the same set repeatedly.
@ericbukley2140
4 жыл бұрын
I love it when DATA says that the sheilds are buckling and is probably about to say that if they take another hit that they will fail..they take another hit and he stops mid sentence.
@themacocko6311
4 жыл бұрын
Talented writing.
@nicktaylor2391
4 жыл бұрын
"If we take... Fuck it."
@jamesspring4610
4 жыл бұрын
Or: "They will not.. .(shields fail)....never mind, sir."
@CharlesUrban
4 жыл бұрын
They got the idea.
@BrowncoatFairy
2 жыл бұрын
"i have good news and bad news. the good news is you can ignore my previous statement about the shields buckling..."
@fluff86d
4 жыл бұрын
Dispersal pattern Sierra seemed rather ineffective
@HowIamDriving
4 жыл бұрын
Pattern is good, but weapons too weak.
@IRMentat
4 жыл бұрын
Craig Given torpedo shotguns before weakening shields with phasers rarely work. It’s probably why the games keep saying phaser down the shields then torpedo the remains.
@KazeriantheVIIII
4 жыл бұрын
Agreed. Moderate damage to the Klingons shields, cmon.
@oculosprudentium8486
4 жыл бұрын
@@HowIamDriving According to the Trek data, a photon torpedo is alleged to have the power of 10 KT (a hiroshima class warhead of WW2). But according to the plot of what we are seeing, its like throwing spitballs at the enemy.
@kkelly80
4 жыл бұрын
Attack pattern suicide it is then.
@WHR17
4 жыл бұрын
“Let’s make sure history never forgets the name Enterprise!!!” For that line alone this episode is greatness. More than makes up for all the crap everyone is bitching about!!!
@simbriant
3 жыл бұрын
I like how Picard's facial expression and the delivery of the line have the subtle, "Yea, this is a suicide mission. We're gonna die. Take as many Klingons with us as we can."
@greyd.99xsome
3 жыл бұрын
I remember having goosebumps hearing this line the first time.
@dbroder180
4 жыл бұрын
Just watch this episode for the first time. Dam this is a good show. To think I was completely obsessed with star wars at the time I barely gave star trek a go. Glad I finally came around!
@leeannasloan2292
Жыл бұрын
Both are good but star trek is just such a good show to binge watch
@DavidNicholson101
4 жыл бұрын
I loved Levar Burton's acting toward the end of the engineering scene as the music slowly started to crescendo.
@antoniojoaocarrico1844
2 жыл бұрын
One of the best episodes of TNG along with "Best of Both Worlds". But my personal favourite is "In the Pale Moonlight" - DS9. The writing and acting of that episode eclipse most of our current TV shows...
@tyvulpintaur2732
7 жыл бұрын
"We will sit here firing pot shots at the Klingons while they fire full weapons at us!"
@bluerisk
5 жыл бұрын
The objective was not to win the battle, or even to survive, but to win time for the Enterprise C at all costs.
@szahmad2416
4 жыл бұрын
True. And in fact, you could see that in the tactics that were employed by Picard. No evasive maneuvering.
@JAnx01
4 жыл бұрын
Learn 2 ship energy management
@Shozb0t
4 жыл бұрын
Disruptors are less powerful than photon torpedoes but fire more rapidly.
@AlexanderRM1000
4 жыл бұрын
1:49 I like how he says "200 kilometers" to mean really close; the ships are presumably enlarged for effect but we can still picture that the battle is taking place at incredible range.
@TammoKorsai
4 жыл бұрын
A very good observation.
@Sage.1337
13 күн бұрын
Agreed, I’m certain that this battle takes place from 3000 kilometers to around 500
@juliusarchibaldiv3880
2 жыл бұрын
One of y favorite TNG episodes even though I wasn't really a fan of the series. But I kind of find this battle kind of prophetic, because this is exactly how the Enterprise-D met her end in Generations.
@DrownedInExile
4 жыл бұрын
It always annoyed me that the Enterprise spends so much battle time just sitting like a dumbshit, not returning fire. Here's how I'd picture this fight: (I know ECM has never been a part of ST lore, but ST lore has never been very consistent anyway. Looking at you Deep Space 9) The Klingons are famously good at stealth techniques. Their Electronic Counter Measures (ECM) has always been better than the Federation. As such, Klingon warships can acquire optimal target locks faster than Federation starships. Starfleet Naval Doctrine dictates starting a battle with evasive or aggressive maneuvers, to either negate the Klingon First Strike advantage, or close distance for an optimal target lock faster. However the Enterprise-D’s mission is not to out-maneuver or defeat the Klingons in battle. The mission is to delay the enemy advance long enough for the Enterprise-C to escape into the temporal rift. Unfortunately, that leaves little room to maneuver. The Enterprise-D activates their own ECM, diverts all available power to forward shields, and prepares to take a pounding. The 3 Klingon K’Vort cruisers do not disappoint, and open fire simultaneously. Several shots miss. Most hits are only glancing, but the Enterprise takes multiple direct hits. Minor damage to forward hull, moderate losses to shields. The Enterprise does not yet have an optimal lock, so Picard orders a hold-fire. He diverts warp power to shields, restoring most of their strength. Minor heat warning in power transfer couplings. The Klingons continue to close distance. Their disruptors are recharging, so they opt to fire their own photon torpedoes. This time the Enterprise responds in kind. Having acquired an optimal lock on the lead ship, they open up with a burst of phasors and photon torpedoes. Only half the shots land, and most of those are glancing. Still enough for moderate enemy shield loss. The Enterprise again takes moderate forward shield losses, more minor hull damage. Damage control teams are dispatched. Again Picard diverts divert warp power, but is only able to restore partial shields. Power couplings are overheating. Both sides hold fire, while their weapons recharge. The Klingons are trying to outflank the Enterprise. One Bird breaks formation, and makes a run for the limping Enterprise-C. Picard orders resetting the shields to 360-degree coverage, weakening them overall. Enterprise comes about to intercept. Warp power to phasers, and they fire with photon torpedoes. At near point-blank range, the Bird takes heavy damage. They suffer main power failure, and are disabled. But now the Enterprise has put her back to the 2 remaining Birds. They close to near point-blank range, where ECM is useless. They target the engines, and fire. Enterprise returns fire with her rear photon launcher, doing moderate damage to one of the birds. But Enterprise takes the worst of it. Heavy losses to rear shields, moderate hull damage. Impulse engines down, moderate casualties reported. Enterprise has no chance of out-maneuvering the Klingons on just thrusters. However the Enterprise isn’t out of this fight. She has numerous system redundancies, and 360-degree phasor firing arcs. Mr. Data does some clever power re-routing from the warp engines to weapons. With another burst of rear-facing phasors and torpedoes, the lead Bird is utterly destroyed. But the last Bird maneuvers out of torpedo range, and opens fire on the warp engines. Enterprise takes critical damage. Explosions rock the ship, causing heavy casualties. Riker is killed. Shields offline. Rear photon launchers offline. Warp engines are down, reactor containment fields lose power. Life support systems fail across multiple decks. Geordi has no choice but to shut down main power, and switch to auxiliary. The Klingons hail the Enterprise, demanding unconditional surrender. Picard is having none of it. He orders all available remaining power be diverted to weapons - including life support. Across the ship, the surviving crew scramble for emergency shelters. The air rapidly becomes toxic. Picard jumps to tactical, and manages a few anemic phasor blasts. The Klingon Bird is lightly damaged. They lock photon torpedoes. One single hit will be enough to destroy the Enterprise. The other disabled Bird has restored power, and is moving into firing range. Picard glares at the enemy ships defiantly, as fire rapidly engulfs his bridge. And then the Enterprise-C finally enters the temporal rift. The timeline is repaired.
@Turtleproof
3 жыл бұрын
Picard doesn't even redress Riker for being over-confident, that's his job more than ever in the face of horrid all-out war to be the one rattling the saber during a vital holding action. Do I ever miss Star Trek. *Stares out at the night sky
@cheetahlip
4 жыл бұрын
“Let’s make sure that history never forget the name ENTERPRISE”........it never has 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
@LotusSimulations
4 жыл бұрын
My favourite scene, from my favourite episode, of my favourite Trek series. This episode is a perfect encapsulation of everything that made older Star Trek series so inspirational and amazing, and this scene is one of only a few moments in Star Trek history where they truly acknowledge that the ship itself is an important character with a life of its own, just as important as any member of the crew, if not more so. The only other times we see that respect given are in Star Trek 3, TNG's "Encounter at Farpoint" and "Thine Own Self", the ending of Generations, and in the Voyager episode "The Year of Hell". The themes in this episode, and in most of TNG for that matter, of taking the high and noble road at any cost, of defending personal freedom and the right to self determination, and of resorting to violence only when all other options have run out, are totally beyond the comprehension of Abrams and his band of idiots, and their loss has helped to make "Discovery" and "Picard" the utter failures that they are. Sadly, we need those themes and that kind of inspiration now more than ever. Thankfully Seth MacFarlane and the Orville team still get it..... but Gene, you are sorely missed.
@---Rin---
4 ай бұрын
This was always one of my favorite episodes of TNG
@christosvoskresye
4 жыл бұрын
4:13 Picard SHOULD have said, "From Hell's heart I stab at thee; for hate's sake, I spit my last breath at thee."
@johnmcgee6297
4 жыл бұрын
They still haven't made a Star Trek movie nearly as good as 'Yesterday's Enterprise' since it aired in `89.
@ianciti
4 жыл бұрын
i still say the undiscovered country is the best Trek Movie.
@HookerUNLEASHEDfilms
4 жыл бұрын
@@ianciti Kahn, then Undiscovered! :)
@ianciti
4 жыл бұрын
@@HookerUNLEASHEDfilms Khan was a good action movie, but that's it. i mean really think about Trek and what it was in its conception. Roddenberry himself got a job in the industry because he was sick of all the benile horrible writing and star trek itself was meant to embody free thinking and intellectualism. the original pilot of trek had been originally shot down by CBS for being "too intellectual" so in reality when i judge any piece of trek. i judge it by how sound it's out of the box thinking and proposed ideas are. in that regard i hold Undiscovered country to be a better Trek Film than Kahn because Kahn is just a fantasy revenge story being told in the star trek universe.... which is fine i guess but that's not what TREK IS ABOUT! Undiscovered country not only proposes the idea of peace between the federation and the klingons but it asks the question of peace in a very uncomfortable way. and not only shows that all our characters are uncomfortable with the idea but it also then shows that some people are so opposed to that idea that it brings them together in ways they wouldn't expect. Klingons and Starfleet officers working together to prevent peace between them. vulcans violating their own logic and it does all of this without just talking at the audience for anything the writers might've been worried would go over the audiences head (i'm looking at you Star trek the motion picture!) it also expands the universe by showing off New worlds and new LifeForms (the klingon prison world and the shapeshifter) which is the most trek of all. it's not just a story being told in the trek universe it IS trek. and it is taking Kirk where he has never been before. oh and speaking of kirk star trek 6 also offers him the most character development out of all the movies by forcing him to out grow his own prejudices.
@johnochiltree1170
4 жыл бұрын
The only Star Trek movie I don’t like is generations. Don’t really count the abrams movies as Star Trek movies
@ianciti
4 жыл бұрын
@@johnochiltree1170 oh fuck that man generations is awesome. only trek movie i dislike is insurrection
@senseweaver01
2 жыл бұрын
"They shouldn't be so confident after the pasting we gave them on Archer 4." Archer? Like John Archer? Probably a coincidence, but I like it
@peacefrog0521
2 жыл бұрын
I picked up on that too. Now I find myself wondering who “Narendra III” was named for 😀
@DavidNicholson101
Жыл бұрын
Picard’s thinking, just a little closer, and when the warp core goes boom, Klingon vessels will go boom too😎.
@ChicagoBirdGirl
4 жыл бұрын
That was a great episode!
@DoggosintheHouse
4 жыл бұрын
3 Klingon attack cruisers firing on you.... Picard: damage report! status report! engineering report! Nobody: could we maybe shoot first and ask questions LATER?
@Mat-ss8uw
3 жыл бұрын
Anyone else find it glaring that the Klingon ships didn't fire a single one of those big torpedoes they are supposed to have?
@TheKnightOfSmite
3 жыл бұрын
1) Klingons like toying with their prey or upping the handicap, 3v1 is probably more honourable not to use torpedoes rather than spamming them 2) They see Enterprise as a good fight but have some respect for them, w/ Archer III referenced 3) They decided to just unga bunga the Battleship Enterprise rather than go after the fleeing Enterprise C class vessel because fighting a fleeing crew is less honourable than getting stuck into fighting Picard whose death will be legend in the Empire, saying they killed him without torpedoes or boarded him and took it over is a big dick bragging move 4) They won the war or are in the process of winning it and everyone can see it, so they're being super relaxed about it with little concern about death (Klingons generally want to go out in a bang to get to the afterlife)
@patrickwilson1459
Жыл бұрын
I don’t know why but I think it would’ve been cool, if just after Picard said “That will be the day” directly at the Klingon captain and he probably would’ve said something like “Then prepare to be destroyed”.
@gl1500ctv
4 жыл бұрын
God, those exploding bridge stations! If they ever do a "time travel to modern day Hollywood" episode one day I'm going to meet them and explain how fuses and circuit breakers work.
@darkartsgaming1664
6 ай бұрын
For those asking why Enterpirse doesn't fire phasers continuously. Those phasers are firing at full strength. Firing a continuous shot would burn out the mechanical parts used to create the blast. Also, phasers use energy. Firing continuous beams would drastically reduce the amount of energy in reserve for other things such as Shields, life support, gravity, general quarters(Lights, replicators,doors). Also, the distances involved are not small. We have to remember the size of these ships are immense. The length of the Enterprise-D si about four football fields. Which would mean the enemy ships are multiple miles away. Lets say you do use a continuous phaser beam. Instead of using one phaser shot worth of power to shot a single phaser, now you are using how ever many phaser shots it takes to cover the distance of, lets say, 10 miles. Thats alot of energy being used and you might not even hit the target, as the target would have a clear sight of where your attack is. Also, if you were fighting someone, how practical would it be to extend your fist out and try to hit the enemy with it instead of throwing a few punches here and there. When ever the enterprise-D has used continuous phaser beams, it has always been to push objects rather than to damage them. Also, phasers are not lazers. Lazers are concentrated beams of light highly focused into one point. Phaser shoot Nadion particles which have been excited to certain levels, giving people the ability to choose how excited the Nadion particles are when shot. I.E. stun, kill, disintegrate. So, even with energy depletion being considered, we also have to consider Nadion particle depletion as well.
@calvinsuu1949
6 ай бұрын
Thank you for that hypothetical explanation
@jarredjordan1863
5 ай бұрын
I'll kind of paste a bit of my earlier comment from somewhere but they mentioned earlier in the episode that the rift would possibly collapse or have other effects with too much weapons fire. So they had to fight defensively and let the Klingons kind of dictate how much energy was expended in the local area.
@davidcasmero7102
4 жыл бұрын
Picard should ordered a full salvo of photon torpedoes as soon as the Klingons came into range and ordered for full phasers to be fired as they moved in closer... not his hold fire order...
@popmonika
4 жыл бұрын
Err there were three Klingon ships attacking the Enterprise. What you plan would only work in hit and run tactics. Also in that case the heavily damaged Enterprise c would be destroyed and the timeline not restored. Starfleet loses the war.
@billyboblillybob344
4 жыл бұрын
@@popmonika Curiously, the three Klingon cruisers were in a nicely tight formation...I mean...stupidly. Destroying the one closest to the other two would have wrought near catastrophic damage to the surviving ships. It is a warp-core style explosion at very close range after all. But, the show treated that ship explosion as a match being blown out with no repercussions to both vessels that literally flew through the remnants of the explosion almost immediately.
@Gunnar001
4 жыл бұрын
David Casmero And then the resulting massive power drain diverted from shields and defense systems leaves the war-torn Enterprise vulnerable. The ship is quickly disabled and torn to pieces by the surviving Klingon battle cruisers as a barrage of focused disruptor fire hammers into it. Great job! Command and battle strategy isn’t your thing. Leave it to Picard.
@darcraven01
4 жыл бұрын
@@popmonika up to the point the first klingon ship dies, the enterprise fires 6 phaser shots and 1 volley of 5 torpedoes. assuming they all hit the same target, we can assume that thats the required amount of fire power to take the klingon shops out. idk if this timeline is different (being more military focused, it likely has the same if not more weapons than the normal timeline enterprise d). normal timeline enterprise d had 12 phaser banks (one unusable unless seperated) and 3 torpedo launchers (1 also unusable unless seperated). if the max a torpedo launcher can fire at once is the 5 we see it do, than with some quick math we can see that all it would take is two bursts of all weapons firing to take out all three klingon ships (6 phaser hits * 3 ships = 18, whereas the 11 phaser banks * 2 firing bursts is 22 shots.. 4 more than required. 5 torpedoe hits * 3 ships is 15, 2 torpedo launchers * 5 torpedoes in each * 2 firing bursts is 20 hits.. 5 more than required). so... yeah...
@MasterofSpiders
4 жыл бұрын
@@billyboblillybob344 Ships in Star Trek are consistently depicted as being closer together than is reasonable. Space is bloody massive, you have faster than light communications, weapon and transporter ranges of at least 100s of kilometers (based on transporting to and firing on planets - Tech manuals state ranges like 300,000 km for phasers and torpedos, but you don't see than in combat) and yet 500m & 600m long starships are frequently with a few lengths of each other. And not just for combat either, even if they just want a chat they get up close and personal.
@JH-mo7xm
4 жыл бұрын
USS Enterprise-D: Firing phasers USS Defiant: Hold my coffee.
@niccolom
4 жыл бұрын
The sizes, therefore maneuverability, are hugely different.
@jimeagle5509
2 жыл бұрын
"Continual fire! All phasers!"
@davidhunt7519
3 жыл бұрын
One of the best episodes ever.
@beantown_billy2405
4 ай бұрын
"We have to make sure that history never forgets the name......Jean Luc Picard"
@roberthertzberg4421
4 жыл бұрын
One of the best episodes.
@timlorakatryan
2 жыл бұрын
all these explosive computer terminals full of rocks...takes a brave officer to stand at their station in starfleet. respect
@ExcelsiorsDomain
7 ай бұрын
It dawned on me the other day that the K'Vorts don't angle their wings down to attack mode here or in several other episodes of Next Gen...
@JohnProthero
6 жыл бұрын
I've always thought the Enterprise D must've been built by Land Rover: beautiful and functional, but pretty weak-assed engineering.
@blppt
3 жыл бұрын
The Galaxy class was built by "naive" Starfleet who thought that once the Klingons were allies, not a threat, they could build giant luxury liners and put civilian families on board. Nor was much attention paid to how vulnerable they were to well placed shots in battle. Like when Riker let the Federation flagship get taken over by a couple of Ferengi in old, outdated scrapheap Klingon BoPs. Or in Generations, when even with ineffective shields, a full volley of forward weaponry should have finished off that old Klingon light cruiser. We're led to believe that either Riker is the worst captain ever or the volleys that the Duras sisters hit the Enterprise with before she turned away took out a vital system. That was changed in a hurry after the Borg and Dominion showed up---we got the Sovereign, Akira, Defiant, Prometheus classes, and even war-Galaxy refits.
@Arundodonax
4 жыл бұрын
That darn starboard power coupling sure does go out a lot.
@lovipoekimo176
4 жыл бұрын
I want a remastered version of this that doesn't look silly.
@rkbkirin5975
4 жыл бұрын
I've seen some talented Star Trek fans out there, you'd think this would have been a scene they'd redo.
@halwakka504
4 жыл бұрын
I'd like to see one where they unload as soon as the Klingons get within range, and then have the last two minutes of video of the Ent-D sitting idly in space beside three burning wrecks as the Ent-C limps back into the portal thing.
@fredocarroll
4 жыл бұрын
Does this count? It's crisp, at least: kzitem.info/news/bejne/12yj24qikJ15ZY4
@theemrpoint123
4 жыл бұрын
The show was remastered in HD and released on Blu-ray in 2012. The Blu-ray looks amazing. Picture quality is true HD and colours are vibrant. The ships move just as slow of course, but the effects looks pretty good.
@charles-y2z6c
4 жыл бұрын
Let history never forget the name ENTERPRISE. Spoke like a commander who wants to win!!
@midknight9232
4 жыл бұрын
2:30 Easily the best part of this battle.
@LTDANMAN44
3 жыл бұрын
THIS IS STAR TREK AT ITS FINEST
@ricaard
4 жыл бұрын
Archer 4!
@Mountainmonths
2 жыл бұрын
these alternate universe episodes are the best
@bjornjoseph
Жыл бұрын
That cabinet in the engineering always explodes
@gustavogalvez6103
4 жыл бұрын
The best episode in all the franchise history!!
@robertregan8410
4 ай бұрын
You know I just realized Picard and crew are actually going through their own Kobyashi Maru scenario themselves. Because even though the Enterprise-C makes it back to the past, the Enterprise-D is on the verge of being destroyed.
@54bluesbass15
3 жыл бұрын
I don't know if it was already posted or commented on; It seems that through-out the series, it didn't take much for the Enterprise D to be on the verge of losing shields and/or having a warp-core breach.
@hoosierrefugee5557
10 ай бұрын
Something that I noticed ages ago, is the scene in engineering is very similar to the one in generations when the warp core is about to blow. LaForge even checks the same access panel!
@dermetzger
4 жыл бұрын
One of the top 5 speeches in science fiction
@MrJay197409
4 жыл бұрын
Always a fucking coolant leak could they not come up with something better just once. I love how it does not or never anything explodes until Geordi walks away from a safe distance.
@bearman_1826
2 жыл бұрын
The Enterprise has one long healthbar.
@dsandoval9396
4 жыл бұрын
AAAAAAAAWWWWWWWWWE!!! Total blue balls at the end there! Damnit, I just started watching DS9 from the beginning yesterday, now I'm going to have to start watching TNG from the beginning too!? Needs to be another quarantine, even if I have to be the one to make it happen.
@ThunderAppeal
4 жыл бұрын
I remeber this. We made it out by the skin of our teeth. That 'minor damage to secondary hull' shaked the shit out of us in the lower decks. They really minimize the impact these battles have on the rest of us yellow shirt crew members down below.
@kevinoverbeck4250
4 жыл бұрын
If this could have been made today with CGI as it exists, this scene would have been totally epic.
@zacharyfett2491
3 жыл бұрын
Back several years later to say this was one of the best TNG episodes. Also, the Enterprise C may be one of the best looking Enterprises.
@davidlewis5312
4 жыл бұрын
I have a bit of a problem with a bird of prey tanking a full torpedo spread... eh..
@masterchief2739
4 жыл бұрын
Understandable, but they are K'vort class, Klingon imperial defense cruisers. These things are no slouch; General Martoks flag ship was a K'vort (IKS Rotarran) and showed itself popping Jem Hadar ships in the same fashion as the USS Defiant. This battle you see here, is like the Enteprise D fighting 3 slightly weaker USS Defiants.
@VoodooV1
4 жыл бұрын
It still would have better if the Enterprise took out two of them instead of just one. Perhaps ramming the 2nd one, but I’m sure they probably didn’t have the budget for that.
@masterchief2739
4 жыл бұрын
@@VoodooV1 It was also providing cover for the Ent C. It was not trying to dodge or maneuver. But I do agree, would have been nice if they rammed a BOP for a nice finish move as the Ent C enters the wormhole.
@Gunnar001
4 жыл бұрын
@Jim Barrows It probably didn't want to destabilize the rift any further with weapons fire, as it was so close.
@CryptoVin
4 жыл бұрын
I love how the Klingons get in their own crossfire. Great tactics! And the secondary hull is breached with shields holding and no primary hull breach. Lol. Could they put some thought into this?
@blppt
3 жыл бұрын
The Klingons were smartly focusing their fire where it hurts the Galaxy class the most---its shaky Engineering section. No real reason to target the primary hull at all, really. Also, shields don't block all of the fire, they just mitigate the amount that gets through. Which is why you see ships take damage even when "shields are holding" in all of the Treks.
@burtonwilliams5355
4 жыл бұрын
When Geordi says ya got a coolant leak -- everboy ''OH HELL'.
@PCCphoenix
4 жыл бұрын
3:14--"La Forge to Bridge, I can't hold the antimatter containment fields, initiating emergency shut down!" >explosion< TOO LATE!!!
@thomascollins4325
3 жыл бұрын
Love the line "That'll be the day!"
@JimmytNoob25
Жыл бұрын
I play STO and although Obliviating phasers didn’t show until STP “confederation” these phasers firing lapses seen almost identical to those, as with standard Federation Phasers they seem more lengthy. Am I wrong?
@gazf9946
Жыл бұрын
Only a Brit could deliver that level of gravitas
@mikeyjames1000
4 жыл бұрын
Omg FIRE EVERYTHING!!!!
@joeallen9104
3 жыл бұрын
Starfleet still makes the bridge equipment out of explodium I see.
@fabtastic2
3 жыл бұрын
It's powered by plasma that can become unstable.
@renatoyap
4 жыл бұрын
This is my all time fave STNG episode. Now looking back at it again, I understand why the Enterprise C took such a huge beating.................................... ....... The entire crew are all decked out in RED SHIRTED UNIFORMS!!!!!
@zaz4667
4 жыл бұрын
Best episode ever! Along side with "Best of Both Worlds" part 1 & 2.
@cluedin
4 жыл бұрын
Best TNG episode by far
@joechevy2035
9 ай бұрын
One of the most badass scenes in TNG!
@Lee-zw5km
2 жыл бұрын
Hard to believe that the first series filming of Voyager pretty much coincided as ST: TNG finished & ofcourse Generations.
@skyrien
4 жыл бұрын
One of the best TNG episodes!
@datrevmeister
4 жыл бұрын
Omg I still get the feels after all these years. This and All Good Things final stand are my favorite TNG episodes! Very typical of the Enterprise...all guns blazing
@IMDARKFIRE007
4 жыл бұрын
Got to love how Picard fired phasers after Data said power was severed...from a console that just blew up and killed Riker. Wish MY electronics were that tough.
@hosswindu166
4 жыл бұрын
Power was severed to the forward phaser array. Picard could have been firing a different array like the rear or ventral phasers
@_Rhort
4 жыл бұрын
"Let's make sure that History never forgets the name: Enterprise"
@Fabian-Wenzel
7 ай бұрын
I guess you can't keep a phaser continuous fire going for long because otherwise the phaser banks would burn out due to overheating. Of course, the phaser banks have a cooling system and the coolant is highly toxic, as we all know from TOS. But at a certain point the overheating is so severe that the cooling system becomes useless. In the Dominion War, the Dominion and its allies were certainly not always to blame for a Starfleet ship being incapacitated, as I believe that phaser banks also burned out repeatedly. What interests me is whether the torpedo tubes can also overheat if you fire too many torpedoes in succession in a battle situation?
@chuckymcnubbin1518
4 жыл бұрын
Anyone else get the impression that the special effects crew doesn't know what 200 kilometres looks like? You wouldn't even see a tiny bright dot of the Enterprise C at that distance.
@mike12547
4 жыл бұрын
"Huh, that's weird... every time I check job openings in star fleet there's always available positions on the Enterprise's secondary hull"
@RurouniKalainGaming
7 ай бұрын
I never thought this before, but if all of that fire from Enterprise-D was targeted towards the same Bird of Prey then.... It actually makes a lot more sense. They targeted the same ship, Picard knew that was likely what was needed to destroy that damaged vessel at rhat point and that was the tatic they planned to do ahead of time. Just... They never said that. Thinking about it that way, it makes a lot more sense.
@mattwho81
4 жыл бұрын
It’s always bugged me that Klingons were on their knees in Star Trek VI but here they’re beating the Federation. In my head cannon the Klingons were getting back-door support from the Romulans. Though the Klingons were doing the fighting they federation was really up against the combined industrial might of two superpowers.
@Bit01
4 жыл бұрын
Maybe the accident on Praxis didn't happen in this timeline. They were over mining it due to lack of resources. If the Romulans were supplying them they wouldn't have to.
@tylisirn
4 жыл бұрын
@@Bit01 The divergence in timelines happened much later, Enterprise-*B* wasn't even launched yet when Praxis blew up, let alone C...
@damirbabic8168
Жыл бұрын
in the all-good things timeline, Enterprise was able to easily destroy a Klingon bird-of-prey, had cloaking technology, and could do warp 13
@I_am_Diogenes
4 жыл бұрын
The Enterprise forgot to bounce the Graviton particle beam off the main deflector dish ...... obviously . :)
@Ken-yp1dg
4 жыл бұрын
Never understood why they didn’t intentionally overload an engine on a Shuttle and use it as a weapon.
@LordTalax
4 жыл бұрын
That barrage of torpedoes was near useless in the beginning. The Klingons must have stronger ships in this timeline. That's some maneuvering as the Ent D sits still and takes fire from both klingon ships.
@howardpower
3 жыл бұрын
And just like that, a warp core breach occurs. Typical. As Warf would say, "Prepare for ramming speed!!!
@Ama-hi5kn
6 ай бұрын
That'll be the day... Go Jean Luc!
@nscaledelights
3 жыл бұрын
Im glad they finally got Wesley out of that god awful My Pony rainbow uniform and put him in a proper outfit. Those battle belts are pretty dope if I say so.
@t.s.adrian8785
7 ай бұрын
The Federation needs to get their money back from whoever sold the them that starboard power cupping.
@krismurphy7711
7 ай бұрын
Low Bid
@treyhelms5282
6 ай бұрын
Darn Ferengi!
@PCCphoenix
3 ай бұрын
The sequence starting at 4:02 was a shocker!
@bobbyjones3351
4 ай бұрын
great episode but would the flagship still be a giant cruise ship during a long war that started years before it was constructed it would have been cool to see a battleship enterprise designed with the sole purpose of obliterating any enemy ship it encounters
@torstenmautz195
2 жыл бұрын
Remember in Trek Universe: Never use a computer Terminal. They Tend to explode. Why? Who knows. You would think they would use computer control to activate an Energy-Relais. Instead the Energy goes through the consoles and any minor overcharge leads to a kaboom 😉. Clever design. I mean distant power switching is so 20th/21st century. These future guys got some balls.
@MAZE4
6 ай бұрын
Those effects looked amazing back then, superceded now with CGI, although really good model works still look better.
@BattlestarGentoo
Жыл бұрын
For every change of course or firing phasers Picard has to give an explicit order, so they loose a maximum of time. They are in the 24th century and didn't improve that? The only thing that is needed is a joystick, a radar, and control of the tactical systems and the engines. So one person could control the whole ship with a maximum of effectivness which could be the difference between life and death.
@dmale79
Жыл бұрын
Remember First Contact? Picard waited til 3 more ships were destroyed before saying fire. He literally paused for dramatic effect, killing hundreds. He's such a narcissist sometimes. They have an order he can give called Fire at will. I've seen them use it. But sometimes he likes to let some ppl die in order to keep the survivors in line. You see, Picard loved history. Particularly roman history. He would speak often about the Roman empire. During roman times, to keep soldiers in line, every now and then they would line soldiers up and kill every tenth man. It was called Decimation. Picard couldn't order federation captains to line their ships up, so he would improvise.
@coreyashley9201
4 жыл бұрын
They should have done a mirror universe episode of TNG.
@jeffpadilla9891
3 жыл бұрын
It would have been cool if they had changed the Enterprise to look like the All Good Things Enterprise when the C came out of the rift.
@rebounders
4 жыл бұрын
Fantastic episode.
@markrtoffeeman
Жыл бұрын
Anyone noticed how much similarity there is to the Battle of Veridian III (Star Trek: Generations)? Enterprise D - Bridge Design Geordie Laforge having to deal with similar issues Etc etc
@molybdaen11
4 жыл бұрын
You would think that the bridge and the warp core were the most protected stations on a star fleet vessel. But No - the toilets are.
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