Toyota has been reliable for decades. Listen to Toyota. People need to be reliable too. Stop buying vehicles you cant afford. Too many people driving around in huge vehicles with zero passengers or cargo. Get a beater small car like the corolla.
@randsipe224
Ай бұрын
I agree, Toyota and Honda are great but who wants a beater Corolla? Not me. Say what you will, but even main stream Toyota and Honda are moving upscale. The average US car price is $47330. A higher trim Toyota Corolla is pushing 50K. But people want all the latest tech and new features. Check out the new Corolla and you will see what I mean.
@danieloool2044
Ай бұрын
In 2007 hybrid cars were very expensive
@user-cw9em3mo3w
Ай бұрын
Toyota has a FOOLCELL to sell You my friend, you buying? 🤔 FYI there's a class action suit going on in California about this Mira FoolCells aka FCVs, why don't you check it out , Google helps.😂
@wallbangerzsports
Ай бұрын
Go back to Europe, fruit boy. This is America. We like big SUVs and Trucks. Ligma Balls
@beastboy-io4uh
Ай бұрын
@@randsipe224 that’s a GR corolla with markup , it would be hard to find a brand new high trim one over 35 let alone 50 . And that’s tax and destination included .
@faisal-ca
Ай бұрын
Toyota and Honda were realistic about the fact that you can't switch expertise from ICE to EV overnight. Ford and GM ended up being wanna-bees.
@surkh
Ай бұрын
Honda is literally selling an EV built on a GM platform
@surkh
Ай бұрын
Toyota is selling the most wannabe EV out of all the ground-up EVs
@JogBird
Ай бұрын
they know that they will be bailed out by taxpayers
@faisal-ca
Ай бұрын
@@JogBird They already did. Ford and GM took dollars from federal govt for producing electric vehicles and later backed down.
@JJS432
Ай бұрын
@@surkhThey only did that to appease the market. There’s literally no announcement of another BEV any time soon lol.
@RWHobbies
Ай бұрын
3 main issues with EV in USA: 1. Gas prices are way lower than Europe 2. Not the infrastructure in place and enough charging stations 3. Range is not enough. USA is spread out and long distances. Not like other places in world where it is more condensed. You can’t go from one city to another round trip without having to charge.
@skimonkey5855
Ай бұрын
NO 1 is cost of EVs. Testla 3 is a 25k car selling for 50k. Only Elon fans are buying em.
@tommy516
Ай бұрын
wtf are you talking about? A model 3’s entry price is..29k!
@TheMrDamp
Ай бұрын
@@RWHobbies then when we want to improve infrastructure everybody screams no. And removing oil subsidies. We should have high speed rail for long distances but again, not enough public support because we’re addicted to cars and planes
@user-iz3gv5vo6b
Ай бұрын
The main problem is that they cost too much, and yet the government is giving corporate welfare to Tesla and the CEOs of US auto companies by blocking the import of affordable Chinese EVs and PHEVs.
@Lost_In_LA
Ай бұрын
1. It cost me $130 to fill up my SUV recently. I don’t care if it costs more in Europe. 2. I charge my Tesla at home, saving both time and money compared to gas each week. 3. My SUV doesn’t have much more range than my Tesla. Either way I need to take make a pit stop if driving to Vegas. It’s whether it is 5 minutes vs 30 minutes. I’m probably getting a bite to eat tbh. SUV wins if needing multiple stops or going to a remote National Park; otherwise, I’ll opt for my Tesla.
@alpha7ization
Ай бұрын
Meanwhile I keep driving my 95 Lexus Gs300 and 01 Infiniti Qx4....both run phenomenal..no car payments for me!
@IamGroot786
Ай бұрын
You're wise to do so.
@BillyBarooo
Ай бұрын
Same here. Part of that GS gang, my 350 maybe a bit newer as a 2016 but no car payments & driving it straight into the ground
@michaelbruno1666
Ай бұрын
If very well taken care of most car engines will last to 500,000 km.
@ElMistroFeroz
Ай бұрын
As an EV owner and former Toyota owner (MR2 Turbo), I'd have to agree. Toyotas are the best quality ICE cars, the same way TDK makes the best quality VHS tapes.
@TimBorg
Ай бұрын
My LEAF is 10 times cheaper to run
@liamj5091
Ай бұрын
Toyota hybrids for the win🎉
@conradbo1
Ай бұрын
That is for sure 😍😍🕺🕺🕺🕺🕺🕺
@jason9405
Ай бұрын
A hybrid is an EV. It has a battery and electric motor.
@kingdeedee
Ай бұрын
@@jason9405 a hybrid is an EV and an ICE car with an electric motor (ICE cars all have batteries btw). It’s a combo of both… hence why it’s called a hybrid.
@jason9405
Ай бұрын
@@kingdeedee ICE car s have 12V lead acid batteries. But hybrids have high voltage batteries and electric motors in the drive train. If a car had these things it is an EV. If you wish to differentiate you need to use the term BEV. I have BEV and large sedan with NA V8. Truth be told if I can't drive a NA V8 I'd rather drive a BEV.
@kingdeedee
Ай бұрын
@@jason9405 I'm not saying you're wrong, but all those distinctions aren't that important or useful to most people lol. This is a KZitem comment section, not the Board of Directors at GM. The original commenter didn't say anything wrong when he said "Toyota hybrids for the win" Congrats on your owning some cars though, I'm incredibly jealous of you (or at least I think that's what you wanted to hear by randomly telling a total stranger on the internet about the cars you have)
@DiggyT
Ай бұрын
It's almost like people who make average salaries, don't want to buy a 50k smart phone on wheels.
@OtisFlint
Ай бұрын
But they will buy a $70k truck and get 16 mpg while hauling a bed full of air.
@baconpancake1
Ай бұрын
Shocked Pikachu face.
@datdude8484guht
Ай бұрын
They laid off all the tech bros. They were keeping the EV Market afloat.
@beastboy-io4uh
Ай бұрын
i feel like that and the fact that average people buy new cars every like 4-6 years , anyone who really wanted an Ev already has one
@fjalics
Ай бұрын
@@beastboy-io4uhThat's by far not the whole story. EVs have been improving very quickly as companies scale up,and gain experience. Everybody needs one convenient place to charge. Not a big problem if you own your own home, but many don't. We are just getting to a single charging standard finally. This will help a lot. EVs are better. They don't pollute where lots of people are breathing, they regen, so brakes don't wear out, they can be very torquey and smooth, which is great, and as I hinted at, one pedal driving is great.
@beastboy-io4uh
Ай бұрын
@@fjalics but muh engine sound ! I get it I really do , but most of the country does not really care about the pollution factor sadly . Evs are alright to drive but they get boring , I traded the model s after just 1 year . Shortest time I’ve ever owned a car .
@brightlife3691
Ай бұрын
@fjalics so you mean ev are better for environment? Go do more research, buddy. Actually, the ev fk up this world more. They just lied about ev better for this environment. Elon is the most scam person in this world, and people's just give him money to spend every day, lol. Look at how he scams people's in crypto. He made 20b and got out of it. It's so funny to see people's driving that tesla on the road every day
@fjalics
Ай бұрын
@@beastboy-io4uh I've been driving a Tesla Model 3 since 2018. My dream was an electric car. Love the thing. I used to drive a Prius. The dual motor model 3 is way more fun.
@ak-akira7239
Ай бұрын
Price, efficiency, and reliability on the EV market just sucks.....
@DreDresChapters
Ай бұрын
Price.. efficiency… and reliability….. huh?
@Alopen-xb1rb
Ай бұрын
ICE is a long established tradition in the US. The change to EVs was always going to be difficult. What is being left out of the video is that EVs are much more affordable in 2024 vs 2022. As that trend continues and EVs enter the lower price bracket of the market the perception will change. But yes inflation over all is affecting the higher price bracket that most EVs are currently in. Lots of new ICE cars overall suffer from high prices too. It’s not just EVs.
@PackFan2323
Ай бұрын
@@DreDresChapters That guy sees what he wants to see. Same comments were said vs Hybrids years ago.
@DreDresChapters
Ай бұрын
@@PackFan2323 that’s fuckin hella true😭 I really am starting to imagine what the guy on the horse said to that first car… “it’s just an oversized lawnmower”😭😭😭😭
@ElMistroFeroz
Ай бұрын
@@DreDresChapters Haha yea. I also wonder how range measurements were made when gas cars hit the market, like MPGe is measured on EVs. My guess is Ad campaigns would be along the lines of: "The Model T, more efficient than a horse, getting you as much as 5 Miles per pounds of hay equivalent!"
@andrehernandez3193
Ай бұрын
I read somewhere that Hyundai is being sued because dealers were being incentivized to lie about EV sales.
@KirkKreifels
Ай бұрын
True
@vancity2349
Ай бұрын
@@andrehernandez3193 Oh ya and the car industry to 100% honest, ya right
@yellomonky4272
Ай бұрын
@@KirkKreifelsthat’s a major scandal, can you cover it please?
@mrgurulittle7000
Ай бұрын
Hyundai harassing dealers? That sounds like Hyundai. What a scandal.
@vancity2349
Ай бұрын
@@mrgurulittle7000 I am sure all dealers push sales to move more cars and earn bonuses for the salesperson and stealership
@islanddon865
Ай бұрын
My decision for my next DD is to Hybridize, or stay with a small displacement ICE (2L or less w/o turbo). Due to charging infrastructure's lackluster introduction, l'm not jumping in on a straight EV.
@anydaynow01
Ай бұрын
Yeah I got a used PHEV since it was cheap at the time for the km on it (like right before the pandemic hit) and I can charge daily and love it. Still keeping my old hshift ICE fun car for trackdays and "Sunday morning" drives though!
@hatersbhating
Ай бұрын
I find it baffling how some people can barely afford a car and then go and buy like an EV that cant be resold lets say 12 years down the line(or even right now). EV have almost zero value for anything as dealerships know that batteries degrade and needa be changed. It seems like people are just too ignorant or dumb idk. I just sold my 2019 highlander(bought in 2018dec) with 70k miles for 24k back in 2023dec. I guarantee by the 10 year mark at 140k miles that I can get $10k+ back on my nonev car.
@CarsofGlasgow
Ай бұрын
I love your Ford comment about more affordable EV's and they have just released the Explorer EV and Capri which are both expensive
@KirkKreifels
Ай бұрын
Yep. Ford wants fiesta sizes EVs eventually
@michaeloreilly657
Ай бұрын
They said that after the designs had been signed off.
@mrsteel6136
Ай бұрын
@@KirkKreifelsthey axed the focus and fiesta it’s only the Puma now.
@shootermcgavin4999
Ай бұрын
I drive a fiat 500e as my 2nd car. It's like an extra $175 dollars year to register it in Idaho because it's an EV....but I only drive it like 1500 miles a year. Huge ripoff. If they are gonna charge you higher registration fees to make up for gas tax....they need to take into account of how much you drive it.
@level10boy
Ай бұрын
I think Teala is done honestly, unless they bring out a few new cars soon they are in serious trouble.
@skimonkey5855
Ай бұрын
not ..elon's got the best BS skills in the world. he'll change the story to pump it up. and his fans worship that mofo
@michaeloreilly657
Ай бұрын
The Model Y was the best selling car in Europe in 2023. For H1 in 2024, it's..... No. 7.
@harmony3138
Ай бұрын
Quite right. Teslas are looking stale, boring and dated against more desirable competition.
@vancity2349
Ай бұрын
@@level10boy Since you can even spell Tesla properly your comment has no substance
@DrewS777
Ай бұрын
Tesla shifting to Full Self Driving robo-taxi business model. 10-years you won't own a car. Just pull out app and robo-taxi takes you anywhere. No more payments for insurance, maintenance--no need for a driveway, no parking lots. It's coming very soon. You'll see. Model Y best selling car in the world. Sorry, you're just not correct.
@brettfleming5921
Ай бұрын
Also a factor, vandals are not targeting gas pumps for their copper wiring/charging cables. I feel like I am consistently seeing articles regarding cables being cut off at the adapters. Imagine using your last bit of charge to get to a super charger only to find that the cables have all been cut off and stolen. Yikes
@KirkKreifels
Ай бұрын
Yikes. I saw this too. Sad to see such vandalism.
@pooh4519
Ай бұрын
@@KirkKreifels It's not vandalism, it's theft.
@anydaynow01
Ай бұрын
Yeah this is nuts, and do they even really have that much copper in them or do they use aluminum like houses do for heavy gauge lines?
@macmcleod1188
Ай бұрын
In Europe they've gone to a model where the car owner has the cable. That stopped the problem.
@macmcleod1188
Ай бұрын
@@anydaynow01the cable is worth about $35 and takes a few seconds to cut off. Parsley it is a shift in our culture that such petty theft has become common
@terryward1422
Ай бұрын
The current high interest rate are killing auto sales here and all the legacy automakers are sitting on large inventories. Consumer here are not buying. Jeep sales dropped 20% in Q2 and that decline will likely continue for Jeep and RAM. Even the import car dealers lots are full. It is not about the product it is all about the cost.
@anydaynow01
Ай бұрын
And auto parts stores and service departs are actually do quite well since folks are keeping their vehicles for much longer. My girl was going to trade in here old Corolla before the pandemic, now it looks like I'm going to keep that thing running to like half a million km since she got spoiled with the 0% interest she got on it and refuses to pay these crazy rates.
@slawek6829
Ай бұрын
It is just The Beginning ...
@geoffsimns8424
Ай бұрын
The EV market is maintained by legislation, not the market - as reality sets in, and market forces take over the EV market, the actual value of EVs is defined, and the market does want EVs, at this stage anyway. As markets collapse due to demand implosion, manufacturing will diminish, if not cease, overtime. If there were a market demand for EVs, manufacturers would continue to produce them and make a profit in the process (instead of a loss by most manufacturers) - the market is the market; the government is not the market.
@f1champ551
Ай бұрын
And the people want cars and trucks that are easy to maintain and also fuel efficient plus actually for those that can drive easily from Point A to Point B.
@mitchellshareratleast100su7
Ай бұрын
Kirk, I’d say hybrids are the name of the game right now because you can save lots of money on gas compared to a full gas car and not worrying about such an expensive ownership
@terryward1422
Ай бұрын
I think the only legacy automaker who understood that EVs needed to be manufactured in purpose built factories which are much more efficient than the current legacy auto plants and he got canned by VW.
@OlyMar83
Ай бұрын
EVs still have a use case for people who don’t travel far day to day and charge at home using solar. It’s a completely valid and excellent option for transportation.
@KirkKreifels
Ай бұрын
100 percent agree. EV is a perfect city car. Price has to make sense.
@OlyMar83
Ай бұрын
@@KirkKreifels in Australia there are very affordable EVs, BYD dolphin, GWM Ora, MG MG4… all on par price wise with a Corolla hybrid for example. But agree there’s still not enough affordable EVs on the market for the masses for the use case I said above.
@anydaynow01
Ай бұрын
@@OlyMar83 Yeah this is the real crime, the entire nation has to suffer because big auto doesn't want cheap EVs coming in. I mean 90% of the stuff in my house is from China and works fine, and this new generation of Chinese autos pass all the safety and other tests with great reviews. Why should I have to pay a 100% tariff on my commuting appliance because Mary Bara or Shawn Fain needs a new yacht.
@dougrobinson8602
Ай бұрын
@@KirkKreifels EVs are really only good city cars if you have access to charging where you park, or live close to a reliable charging station, which is pretty much a Tesla Supercharger, because the other charging stations are finicky at best. The best use case is suburban home with charging in the garage and a commute that is less than half the vehicle's stated range. Solar on the roof is great, but very expensive to do in some areas.
@OlyMar83
Ай бұрын
@@anydaynow01 there’s a hidden motive there. Someone is trying to protect market share.
@ronlee9984
Ай бұрын
This is the first video from you that I have seen. My impression is that you are objective and give insight into what raw numbers/statistics really mean. I am not sure that you made the case for the EV market collapsing. Maybe I missed it.
@KirkKreifels
Ай бұрын
Tesla is the US EV market. 3 quarters in the negative.
@ElMistroFeroz
Ай бұрын
@@KirkKreifels Yea Tesla has been collapsing since 2012. Forget profits. Look at the stock value. It goes up, then down, then up then down. Not a straight vertical line going up or even a horizontal one. If it continues this pattern, by year 2100 it will still be collapsing.
@shootermcgavin4999
Ай бұрын
rent gone up. salaries haven't gone up.
@stevewise1656
Ай бұрын
In California Tesla's falling sales due to Musk's behavior. The reason Ford and GM can't compete with Toyota, Lexus and other EV's because they build better cars. My issue with EV's is the US doesn't have infrastructure and existing charging stations aren't reliable. Hybrids are the way to go.
@DreDresChapters
Ай бұрын
@@stevewise1656 I’m so confused with what infrastructure U.S. doesn’t have lmao… what Tesla do you own?..
@bobbyjones2112
Ай бұрын
That’s hilarious. I call my Alexa “computer” as well, because of Star Trek the next generation…lol
@blaakrose
Ай бұрын
Insurance will total out a wrecked ev with minor damage. Evs is why car insurance has skyrocketed.
@skimonkey5855
Ай бұрын
good point
@michaeloreilly657
Ай бұрын
It's mostly down to replacement of ADAS, supply chain issues, labor shortages and profiteering, not EVs.
@steven4315
Ай бұрын
I pay $1,066 a year for my 2023 Bolt EUV. 3 cents a mile in electric.
@anydaynow01
Ай бұрын
True they will total an EV for less damage than and ICE, but EVs are such a tiny market share right now. The price hikes have more to do with supply chain and labor shortages like another poster said. It also has a lot to do with data mining from connected vehicles and phone apps so they can see how folks are actually driving and they have jacked up rates for almost everyone. Like if you have a hard braking / acceleration event or you have a habit of driving over the posted speed limit (everyone does it, I know) it gets logged and when the insurance company sees it they jack up your insurance. They have updated their demographic models so even without the connected data folks are paying more as a result.
@ElMistroFeroz
Ай бұрын
That's a very good point. I pay more for my Model S than I pay for my F250, ZX10R and Grey Wolf combined, and I'm an old geezer so I'm getting a deal.
@terryward1422
Ай бұрын
I get your point about the Teslas looking the same year after year. If you are making a "vanity purchase" then you want the vehicle to look "fresh". I would counter that will most people up here buy pickup trucks and they hardly change from year to year. The RAM Classic look is over 10 years old. I know because my son drives one. So I think the car buyers may be more sensitive to the car buyer that the truck buyer.
@KirkKreifels
Ай бұрын
Trucks are very customizable. In FL, hardly any truck is stock. Teslas? Window tint is the most common mod (but it is a great template to expand upon if the owner sees fit).
@Me-pz5by
Ай бұрын
I love my EV Ariya, so far the best decision, I saved hundred of dollars in gasoline, maintenance, etc. I think so much hate for EV is because so many business related will be affected and it is totally understandable, but lie about benefits and facts is not fair.
@KirkKreifels
Ай бұрын
Beautiful car mate
@goansunborn
Ай бұрын
Marcusbil, one of the largest used EV car dealerships in Norway who mostly sell Teslas is going bankrupt.
@thomaslin4242
Ай бұрын
Agree with what u said about RZ thats why im still waiting for 2027 to come. I dont want to persuade myself that im buying a tech toy with that amount of money.
@Iridescentshard
Ай бұрын
Yeah here in Ontario they gave money to built a plant and its now on hold cause yeah, nobody is buying them
@garyclark6747
Ай бұрын
So heavy duty vehicles aren’t really comparable to EV‘s because they do so poorly with that use case. Makes perfect sense that Ford would make that there. When they write off the cost of the facility against ice vehicles, then the profitability of that will go in the tank, but at least it’ll take the heat off the balance sheet that blamed it all on their EV vehicles that are selling better. IONNA is 5 years behind. There was day when combustion vehicles suffered from lack of filling stations so the problems are not unique or isolated. 17:30
@r3sp3ctall
Ай бұрын
Why automakers insist to build that many EVs and make huge loss selling them so to recap that loss they increase the price of ICE vehicles and as a result ordinary people can not even afford a basic economy car to get to work or school? In Canada price of a Honda Civic base has gone up from 20k in 2020 to 30k in 2024. That’s unbelievable.
@LearnAboutFlow
Ай бұрын
Unlike Tesla, the head of Toyota isn't trying to overthrow the US government
@PeterPan-k2m
Ай бұрын
Not sure how the industry could carry on in its current state with EV's dragging the market down
@JDMSwervo2001
Ай бұрын
Those low APR finance deals are only for Well qualified top tier credit buyers and the majority of people don’t fit in that category
@anydaynow01
Ай бұрын
And they aren't even really low, they are more down to a normal level.
@underachievingwatchcollect1878
Ай бұрын
I’ll ride a scooter before buying an EV!😎
@KirkKreifels
Ай бұрын
🛵
@nextleveljourney6612
Ай бұрын
Well - THAT would Beeeee - Under Achieving of you so I guess you’re good
@chaunceysnodgress3672
Ай бұрын
You’d be better off riding an electric bicycle than a scooter. 😎
@strangefire2024
Ай бұрын
Legacy auto is slowly realizing that they simply cannot switch to manufacturing EVs. they're too deeply tied down to their gas tech. Sadly, this means that Chinese EV companies will eventually take over the US market and that of the rest of the world with only Tesla the only other non-chinese company that can truly compete with them. The EV market is definitely NOT artificial. The economy is simply hitting the middle class HARD and car repos of all brands and kinds, EV and Gas, reflect that.
@terryward1422
Ай бұрын
This was a great video and it explained how the EV incentives skew the market place for new cars. Thanks!
@forretresss
Ай бұрын
And now Volkswagen is investing $5 Billion in Rivian... LOL What a money shredder move
@gatorarman12
Ай бұрын
Not at all. You should read more about what VW actually got out of the deal. They didn't invest in Rivian's electric/battery technology platform. VW actually has a half decent platform. What they invested in Rivian's computing technology which is leagues ahead of legacy carmakers. Rivian only has a few ECUs in their cars (unlike most legacy cars which can contain dozens). And the way they structure/connect them is very different than how traditional car manufacturers do. Rivian's model is very similar to Tesla's and it's what allows for Rivian/Tesla to do constant over the air updates. Essentially it's what makes the car "smart" and allows software to continue improving various systems of the car even after purchase. VWs investment was specifically for access/collaboration to that technology, which makes a lot of sense going forward. Regardless of if you're selling an ICE or BEV. I'd argue that they actually got a great deal on the technology. Rivian was hurting for capital, so they really sold it fairly cheap.
@AUTOMOBILZ
Ай бұрын
2025 EV subsidies and incentives are out the window, so now let the EV market stand on their own. Also with the recent Supreme Court ruling against the EPA, I say the future for ICE and hybrids is looking mighty bright!
@vancity2349
Ай бұрын
@@AUTOMOBILZ Sure as long as the billions of dollars in incentives the oil and gas industry receives is stopped too....
@AUTOMOBILZ
Ай бұрын
@@vancity2349 Stay on topic, we are talking about vehicles and nothing else. By your logic are we going to cut incentives to the electric utility companies as well? None of that has anything to do with an administration thats forcing people in a free country to drive the type of vehicles they decide we should drive, and instead of letting the people/market decide…… their instead propping it up on subsidies! When you can come up with an alternative for oil and gases other thousands of uses besides automobiles, let me know!
@vancity2349
Ай бұрын
@@AUTOMOBILZ The EV haters want incentives to stop, if so the same needs to apply to the oil and gas industry...nobody is forcing anyone, they have choices. If you dont want an EV dont buy one, but why hate and negativity towards them?
@AUTOMOBILZ
Ай бұрын
@@vancity2349 no one’s forcing us? So this administration wasn’t trying to pass federal mandates and legislation eventually banning gas cars, I live California we’re they passed a bill prohibiting the sales of new gas cars by 2035 which 11 other states joined……..so please explain how we are not being forced. I can care less about EV’s, just leave the gas cars alone. Also notice how you keep saying incentive’s, but notice how I said incentives and subsidies…….big difference! Damn near every market on this planet gets some form of incentive, but not all get subsidies……..that’s the difference.
@AUTOMOBILZ
Ай бұрын
@@vancity2349 also your hater comment is hilarious, I will never need to hate on a full-size RC car that has horrible driving range, has to be recharged like a cellphone, stalls or doesn’t start in cold weather, horrible build quality, have to cash out your 401k to replace the battery, and most importantly to me has no soul or feel!
@AcuraAddicted
Ай бұрын
Yes, just like the "AI" it is very far from what it is being depicted as. I am not a petrol head and don't really care what the source of propultion is for my vehicle. My decisions are driven purely by practical considerations: cost, range, public charging infrastructure, ability to charge overnight at a level 2 charger and residual value. Right now none of those criteria are met for me personally. When at least 3 out of 5 are met, I'll start to consider an electric vehicle.
@star9732
Ай бұрын
The difference with AI is the major tech companies have virtually limitless money to throw at it. Meanwhile EV car companies are bleeding cash.
@joshm9003
Ай бұрын
@@star9732AI in the same way as EVs requires large amounts of energy production and infrastructure. We are not where we would need to be on both of those fronts to achieve full EV or AI adoption. Permits and building infrastructure take years to decades of planning before new power plants start to operate. Also the US is on a very high unsustainable debt trend. Infrastructure improvements may be very slow unless done by private companies or the Fed printing money and buying up US gov debt to help fund these projects, but will cause higher inflation.
@terryward1422
Ай бұрын
I do disagree with you on the price of the EVs being high. Most EVs are cheaper than the pickup trucks sitting on dealer lots today. The top end Ford, Chevy and RAM pickups are so expensive now they have to be financed for 8 years for people to be able to buy them. The plus here is that pickup trucks keep their value well because they can be put to work by contractors, outdoor adventurers and hobbyists.
@anydaynow01
Ай бұрын
That and anyone who owns a business (or knows someone who owns one) just writes a pickup off as a business expense.
@ImAzraa
Ай бұрын
Not to be a contrarian, but EVs are super cool. I've seen them work wonderfully in the netherlands and france to some degree too. They are however, not compatible with american car culture. You guys consider cars as a declaration of style and not a logistical solution for transport. Which is why your market is flooded with big, heavy, inefficient EVs that dont make sense for city use. a fully electric F150 type truck makes absolutely no goddamn sense. you guys are legit crazy
@MyMovie5858
Ай бұрын
I agree
@Shaggy12321
Ай бұрын
Now is the best time ever to get a used EV, the prices have dropped massively. I can pick up a used EV from say 2021/2022 that was 80k for 30k today. They've dropped because of the lease and return cycle, the grants going, and lack of demand due to people being scared to buy one.
@jewels211966
Ай бұрын
PUT THE WRONG THING ON EV AND GOOGLE BLOCKS YOU
@terrancecloverfield6791
Ай бұрын
Google blocks us for not toeing the Democrat party line. Yet we're still victims.
@terrancecloverfield6791
Ай бұрын
Half of my comments get censored.
@ElMistroFeroz
Ай бұрын
It's random. There are times I get censored for even complimenting someone for providing good information. Hope uTube fixes this because at times, it's unusable.
@janereinhardt4715
25 күн бұрын
A large percentage of a small number is still a small number, i.e selling 1 car vs 2 cars is a 100% increase in sales.
@MR3DDev
Ай бұрын
You cannot force the hand of the market. I believe if the EV mandates are repealed only Tesla will keep making EVs.
@michaeloreilly657
Ай бұрын
China? Europe?
@MR3DDev
Ай бұрын
@@michaeloreilly657 I dont live on any of those places, I speak for what I know.
@michaeloreilly657
Ай бұрын
@@MR3DDevVehicle manufacturing is a global industry selling into many diverse markets. Opinions you have on the US market may not apply globally. I'm sure many other EV manufacturers than Tesla will survive and thrive.
@MR3DDev
Ай бұрын
@@michaeloreilly657 So far other than BYD and Tesla I don't see it.
@harmony3138
Ай бұрын
@MR3DDev Just BYD and Tesla? I don't think BMW, Mercedes, Audi etc would agree to this!
@aurorajones8481
Ай бұрын
HORRAY!!! My hate for EV's stems from our gov maindating what we buy, and how we shop. The technology needs to stand alone with no subsidies, no gov help of any kind. THEN lets see how you stand in the market place. A select few is making mad cash over this stupid public ruse and we the public are paying for it through taxes AND having our rights stripped as consumers to support this crap. I value clean air. Why don't you target industry as public transportation accounts for less than 20% of global emissions. Oh yea they bought our politicians!
@Stijn5
Ай бұрын
Nothing wrong with subsidies in the beginning of a new technology.
@ElMistroFeroz
Ай бұрын
And while you're at it, remove incentives for the ICE industry. Oh wait, nevermind. That would be an absolute bloodbath.
@Stijn5
Ай бұрын
@@ElMistroFeroz I will drive ICE (maybe hybrid) for as long as it's possible. Only if there's no other option and I can't drive an ICE anywhere (which will be many decades away) I'll switch to EV.
@fenrirslip
Ай бұрын
I live in New York City and I saw my first Chevy Blazer EV out on the roads this past weekend. It wouldn't surprise me if it takes months for me to see another one. And the new Tesla Model 3 is hardly a refresh if you ask me when they literally took the blinkers from a stalk on the steering column to inside the infotainment screen. That is one of the dumbest things I've ever seen in an automobile. xD
@brightlife3691
Ай бұрын
It's just so damn ugly 😂
@DreDresChapters
Ай бұрын
Gotta keep it a buck 50… I’ve never wanted or imagined myself in a small model 3… but THAT refresh completely changed the actual car. $35k for 363 miles of range actually made me drop my gas car for it, but I’m still waiting for it😭 I definitely flopped for the price & new quality, I think anything was nicer than the old model 3…. Fuckin hated it
@dougrobinson8602
Ай бұрын
Turn signals are now buttons on the steering wheel on the new Model 3. Don't get me wrong; I still hate that! I hate automatic headlights, because I'm frequently using "flash to pass" to let trucks know they're clear when they pass me. How the heck do I do that on a Tesla with no stalk?
@DreDresChapters
Ай бұрын
@@dougrobinson8602 you don’t know where the high beam buttons are?…
@chilis_no
Ай бұрын
Please look again, both outside and inside.
@jonb9194
Ай бұрын
If they had put graphene-wrapped batteries into production a couple of years ago, the full charge time could be under five minutes. I'm not sure what this would have done to the price, but the charging station situation is absurd for most Americans. Possible unavailability and certain wasted time makes charging virtually impossible unless someone has home solar.
@SuperMachead1
Ай бұрын
Isn’t the Lexus like $20,000 more than a model Y ?….shouldn’t it be more luxurious at that price?
@KirkKreifels
Ай бұрын
It leases cheaper than Y.
@SuperMachead1
Ай бұрын
@@KirkKreifels ….wow…that is weird….they must be losing even more money that way…
@SuperMachead1
Ай бұрын
@@minimalist0000 no…I was talking about Lexus losing money on the lease …it’s $389….and $399 for a model Y lease 🤪
@TheBreakfastLover
Ай бұрын
The EV industry is completely reliant on government subsidies for survival and not sustainable long-term. Tax payer dollars is better spent elsewhere.
@jjjxoxoxo
Ай бұрын
It is definitely sustainable long-term. Within the decade, EVs will cost less than petrol vehicles without subsidies.
@TheBreakfastLover
Ай бұрын
@@jjjxoxoxothen get rid of the subsidies now
@jjjxoxoxo
Ай бұрын
@TheBreakfastLover The world is transitioning to electric cars. New supply chains, technologies, and workforce are being created. It will only take by the end of the decade that most petrol vehicles never be needed. How about self driving cars? They should stop these also?
@TheBreakfastLover
Ай бұрын
@@jjjxoxoxo let the free market decide, not politicians
@blackgold754
Ай бұрын
Nah EVs these days are definitely more affordable than Toyota so the fact that it is even the case shows that it is here to stay.
@phild8602
Ай бұрын
Kirk, did you see that VC-TURBO can be connected to the 9AT with the QX60 being the first to get it?!?!
@KirkKreifels
Ай бұрын
Yes. I'll get to it soon!
@chezzyperson3339
Ай бұрын
Murano and Pathfinder are also getting it while the Altima is dropping it
@terryward1422
Ай бұрын
From what I see on other channels I get the impression that all the legacy automakers will never get to the point where they can make a profit on an EV. Jim Farley from for explained this pretty well and just cancelled building a new EV battery plant here in Ontario.
@MyMovie5858
Ай бұрын
I think it is still too early to tell. The cost of building EV has dropped drastically, just not as fast as its market value. We don't know if it will ever reach a point where it can become profitable for the car manufacturers, but theoretically, it is possible.
@night5091
Ай бұрын
I just got Model 3 Performsnce, had a 22 M3 long range. New one is infinitely better and lot of car for the $. But I don’t have an EV or nothing mentality. I have an ICE suv. The EV market should remain a niche thing and continue with hybrid/ICE motors.
@jessedaly7847
Ай бұрын
EVs are already competitive, but I fully expect that Tesla is preparing to just drop their sticker price by $7500 if the Fed cancels the current subsidy.
@Stijn5
Ай бұрын
No, they're not. Garbage Teslas are not an option.
@jessedaly7847
Ай бұрын
@@Stijn5 well they do require a garage
@nehtals
Ай бұрын
Federal tax credit loophole on EV leases is worth $7500. That’s money that the automaker gets back and the customer gets off the deal. Several states have have there own incentives too
@albeck69
Ай бұрын
Texas EV fee is $200/year after the first two years. The $400 fee at purchase is simply prepaying your first two years of EV road tax.
@jonc2276
Күн бұрын
I’m going to keep driving gas or potential hybrid vehicles right now. The only way I would purchase into an ev is to be able to to keep the cost of maintenance and charging down. Not to mention insurance on point with my gas car. I would like to see that and would only make sense to buy into evs at that point as a second commuter car.
@toninocars
Ай бұрын
People in uk and Europe are getting rid of evs and start buying old petrol cars. The reason is simple Cars are ultra expensive Evs are ultra expensive and ultra unpractical They also lose value like hell I don’t know anyone on their right mind will buy an ev with their own money , unless a pop star or KZitemR
@Koushi82
6 күн бұрын
6% wtf hell no not paying that tax.
@stephengneri2136
Ай бұрын
what ever will elon do? oh thats right there is the siphon of Space X.
@ag4eng
Ай бұрын
AI Robots, autonomous vehicles.
@iridiumhydrogen8420
Ай бұрын
I have a 2023 KIA Niro EV , I love it. Reno,NV
@MAZMART-TV
Ай бұрын
There is no shame in sounding like a Mazda ad! 😂
@chasf3433
Ай бұрын
Manufacturers like VW and Ford are going to pay the price for failing over the last ten years to develop Toyota/Kia/Honda rivalling hybrid tech and then thinking they could just jump to EVs.
@ozarkaviation
Ай бұрын
Visited the local Acura dealer recently and the salesman said they had sold about 6 ZDXs this month. They would be selling more if EVs weren't so expensive.
@Libertarian_Neighbor
Ай бұрын
We are on the precipice of revolutionary battery technology. Once batteries cost half as much, go twice as far, last twice as long and charge twice as fast, EV’s will become universally profitable and widely accepted.
@Libertarian_Neighbor
Ай бұрын
600 mile range, 15 min charging (20-80%), and batteries won’t degrade, they will last 50 years.
@Libertarian_Neighbor
Ай бұрын
All that, while also being half as expensive to manufacture.
@KirkKreifels
Ай бұрын
I agree but when will that happen?
@CarShopping101
Ай бұрын
And unicorns are real too! 😂
@tinycmo
Ай бұрын
If the unicorns run on sodium batteries..possibly so.
@jdc3636
Ай бұрын
While in China, EV sales has crossed 50% mark this year
@mikej238
Ай бұрын
BYD which lose 15000 a car, subsidized heavily by gvt
@MyMovie5858
Ай бұрын
While only 2 companies are profitable selling EVs in China.
@MikeForsythe
Ай бұрын
I just rented at hertz and every other car was some hyundia or kia and their EVs. I was shocked by the number of their EVs I saw. Ended up with a Volvo C40 EV that was pretty meh.
@KirkKreifels
Ай бұрын
Hey Mike... It's a decent car... but instant no-buy because of the rear window that's useless.
@MikeForsythe
Ай бұрын
@@KirkKreifels yeah it was meh okay. We couldn’t fit all our luggage in the back. It drove pretty unremarkable. The screen crashed once. The dash and build quality was superb. Then getting it charged was a whole nother story lol. I much prefer the polestars
@signpost5596
Ай бұрын
I don't hate EVs. In fact I like the EV driving characteristics - quiet, smooth, and quick. But I am not buying one for a lot of practical reasons. I am sticking with my hybrid for now.
@MaxPower-11
Ай бұрын
Completely agree with this analysis. Currently, EVs are a financial disaster for automakers. However, battery technology is constantly evolving and improving and eventually EVs will be cheaper to make than comparable ICE vehicles (and some might even argue that this is already the case in China). The point is that there really isn’t a path for ICE vehicles to become cheaper to make over time, while EVs are on a clear path towards reduced manufacturing costs. So, in the short to medium term the EV market will plateau, but in the long run it will take off.
@ElMistroFeroz
Ай бұрын
Toyota was castrated by EV early 2000's when they (and Panasonic Ovonics) got sued for selling their Rav4 EVs to the public. Interesting how about 400 made it to the market, and their owners were pissed the tech didn't go mainstream. Those EVs lasted way beyond their predictions, like 2nd+ generation Teslas are coming up nowadays. Had GM done the right thing, flying cars would probably be mainstream, but innovation isn't what rules the world. $$ is. Just wanted to bring this up for people who want to be on the right side of history, yet don't know the history.
@potatochobit
18 күн бұрын
I just bought a used EV from a dealership, not a tesla.
@AndrewMcDonald
Ай бұрын
Hybrids and plug-in hybrids are a better option for many. Yes we need to reduce emissions, mandating technology never works.
@skimonkey5855
Ай бұрын
but hybrids are too expensive too
@TheMrDamp
Ай бұрын
@@AndrewMcDonald yes because we dragged our feet for years and instead of building out a sufficient charger network, people were saying “EVs bAd!!!”
@AndrewMcDonald
Ай бұрын
@@skimonkey5855 $30-40k for a prius. Buy a used one. Unless you want a sexy hybrid Land Cruiser. Can't help with that.
@AndrewMcDonald
Ай бұрын
@@TheMrDamp Lol. Who is "we" that dragged their feet? Tesla built their own supercharger network, and that's reflected in their growth. Instead of just randomly blaming "people", go figure out a solution. Get the utility companies to invest in companies to build out chargers...the list goes on.
@TheMrDamp
Ай бұрын
@@AndrewMcDonald by we I meant the US. Politicians holding up progress and companies not wanting to take the risk of doing what Tesla was
@Go_for_it652
17 күн бұрын
Everywhere way I drive I see EVs
@typhoon320i
22 күн бұрын
3:00 Incentives don't cause loses at the auto makers. (I assume you mean government incentives) poor cost control causes losses.
@mrgurulittle7000
Ай бұрын
Tesla needs either a plug in hybrid, or a new lineup of models. The Model Y and S are pretty stale now, and where are those damn Model 2 and Roadster that we were promised a long time ago? Tesla needs a reality check and start making some new exciting stuff again. Look at Rivian. EVs can be exciting when new products are in the pipeline. And I hope Tesla cancels the Cybertruck soon for a REAL truck.
@jeffsenecal4168
Ай бұрын
Yep evs are a scam
@tylersrubar6451
Ай бұрын
Kinda sad kinda hilarious
@Shane-zl9ry
Ай бұрын
I paid cash for my Tesla Y because I didn’t want to pay 7% interest. Now I have to buy another car because my Bolt got rear ended. 🙄
@stevem7508
Ай бұрын
No desire to buy a stupid EV ever
@diegoabreu9197
Ай бұрын
I got a model Y but after this going back to gas
@mj8495
Ай бұрын
Have to wait for those smart EV's to hit the market 😊
@TheMrDamp
Ай бұрын
@@stevem7508 wow the right wingers coming out the woodworks in these comments
@alpha7ization
Ай бұрын
Same here
@michaeloreilly657
Ай бұрын
Never say Never!
@Completelycorydiscgolf
Ай бұрын
Team Honda accord hybrid 🤘🏼
@Michael-il5wd
Ай бұрын
Ev's cost about 60 cents to drive 20 miles. That's five times cheaper than has. Ev's will take over the entire market be eggs of decade
@joebachmeier6747
Ай бұрын
What? Oh no. I didn't get mine yet. I hope the line goes down then.
@michaelphan4
Ай бұрын
EV is a bubble and you guessed it AI is the current bubble.
@TheMrDamp
Ай бұрын
@@michaelphan4 ok short Tesla then. Put your money where your mouth is. Buy the legacy automaker stocks
@ManCaveStudio
Ай бұрын
I was checking out a Mazda MX30, but this was my takeaway once I came to my senses. Imagine paying 40k for a MAZDA MX30 EV with a range of 114 miles and taking over 14 hours to get 80% of your battery charged, with a range of less than 100 miles at 80%. I'll stick with my current ice car. It costs less than 25k and takes less than 5 minutes to fuel to get 480 miles of range.
@brucetownsend691
Ай бұрын
It’s not surprising that Tesla’s market share is dropping. Not only are the cars unappealing to most drivers, Elon Musk has transitioned from a plus to a minus for the brand. Most EV buyers are motivated at least in part by a desire to save the planet or appear to be doing so. Musk’s politics are therefore a huge turn off to a large part of the customer base. His new friends don’t like EVs and he is welcomed only because of his money and a willingness to send large amounts to pro Trump PACs.
@ElMistroFeroz
Ай бұрын
Yes, Tesla's market share drops every single day. Then goes up again, then drops. It's not a perfect vertical line going up. The thing to look for is profits. As far as "losing customer base", look at Tesla's brand loyalty. As far as him donating to Trump, last time I checked that was debunked. I don't know about "Unappealing". As a Model S owner, my interactions with people are always positive and favorable. The only negative interactions are from people who get their knowledge from headlines, and not actual data. Sound familiar?
@EnderGZ86
Ай бұрын
If EVs are such a bad business why blocking chinese cars in the US?
@SFzip
Ай бұрын
Blocking Chinese EVs in the US is primarily due to their significantly lower cost, resulting from lower production costs and government subsidies in China. Despite EVs not selling well in the US, allowing a large influx of cheaper Chinese EVs could severely undercut American manufacturers like Tesla, making it difficult for them to compete and potentially leading to job losses in the domestic auto industry.
@ElMistroFeroz
Ай бұрын
@@SFzip Tesla has been doing well in the Chinese market (the biggest car market in the world), while ICE manufacturers there are collapsing. It would take some verbal gymnastics to argue Tesla do worse in its home country, even without the 100% tariff on China. The fact legacy automakers being around for decades, some over 100 years, not being able to compete with China like Tesla, a company that's not even 20 years old, pretty much puts a huge hole on your claim.
@cybercab
Ай бұрын
GM isn’t really a factor in EVs.
@f1champ551
Ай бұрын
And I think I know why some states where trying to ban Kei Vehicles, to either make or force EVs to be a thing... I may be wrong though...
@f1champ551
Ай бұрын
But also people want the Kei Vehicles too due to a lot of youtubers (WayBeforeTheFame and such) giving them shine, because people are importing from Japan to US as of late...
@brightlife3691
Ай бұрын
Give it 10 more years then all ev going to be in trash
@KirkKreifels
Ай бұрын
Trash maybe... but still running. Worth anything? Unlikely if we hit SSB or semi-SSB at a cheep price.
@chaunceysnodgress3672
Ай бұрын
You’re witnessing the death of ICE slowly unfold in front of your very own eyes. 10 more years and you’ll think back to this exact reply to you. Will internal combustion be extinct then? No, but the writing on the wall will be much visible.
@ElMistroFeroz
Ай бұрын
Interesting point. My Model S is 7 years old now with 97K miles. The battery has degraded 7.5% and car drives like new. For the past 17K miles the battery hasn't degraded enough to measure, but maybe you're right, anonymous commenter. In 10 more years it might spontaneously become trash.
@moonsapling
Ай бұрын
Toyota and Honda seem to listen to what people need and care to make well engineered products.
@007_TheWatcher
Ай бұрын
People don't want to purchase an EV with crappy software and that takes forever to charge using a non-standard plug. Tesla is killing it on all of these and is running away with the market as a result.
@CLsIim
Ай бұрын
Good thing GM spent all the money on the Hummer EV. What an absolute joke. I don’t understand why people support companies like that.
@Ezero8
Ай бұрын
It's just Tesla collapsing. Everyone else is increasing sales. My company is still selling a lot of Ioniq 5s and EV9s.
@baronvonjo1929
Ай бұрын
I would need to look at the numbers but sometimes it's regional. If you were to ask me, I would have told you the Mitsubishi Mirage and Kia Rio were very successful. I see so many of them around. Would have told you the new Chevy Trax sales terribly. As I don't see many. But when you look at the numbers the Trax sales well and the other two didn't/dont. I can say the same about other models. It really can very by region. I looked up the Ioniq 5 and it does sale rather poorly by US standards. Haven't ever broken 35k units sold here. Maybe it will change this year but who knows.
@Chad_Max
Ай бұрын
LOL market share bruh. Just b/c you sold the 2-3 allocated Ioniq 5s/EV9s it doesn't mean a damn thing...
@chezzyperson3339
Ай бұрын
Tesla will collapse even more by endorsing MAGA and Trump and on top of that Elon is already starting to become a conman
@miraphycs7377
Ай бұрын
Bro hyundai was accused of lying and artificially pumping up its EV sales figures
@wolfpacknation900
Ай бұрын
How is Tesla collapsing lol. They're #1
@stuartfisher1640
Ай бұрын
Hybrids the way to go
@brockali4284
Ай бұрын
If you hate electric why buy a hybrid look for a gas and diesel hybrid that makes just as much sense.
@biovmr
16 күн бұрын
Always amazes me how much extra money folks will pay to have something designed to transport people/things that LOOKS new/different. I never fell for that theory of transport. Who am I supposed to be trying to impress by spending way more money? People gonna do dumb stuff I guess. I spend 29 cents a mile ALL IN (depreciation/insurance/maintenance/fees/fuel/you-name-it) for transportation that never lets me down, and I travel in comfort. What else would I want to pay for? Tesla will continue driving down costs; hard to say on a quarterly basis when the cost/performance curve will accelerate adoption again. The outcome is inevitable, just not necessarily as fast as other countries have been doing it. If I for some reason lost my current car, I'd lease an EV if I could find a deal within 10% cost of an equivalent ICE vehicle, and no more than 25% more expensive than my current ride; if not, I'd find another car like the one I've driven for 5+ years (2019 Honda Fit).
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