1-that actually takes longer time 2-sometimes the screws are not 100% in tact so some screws would turn harder although they still haven't done much tension on the head. so it's definitely no recommendation unless you always have shiny new expensive drums to tune and you insist on not using your ears leaving you untrained for tuning drums which is a must learn skill for every drummer
@matrixmodulator
Жыл бұрын
i got new shiny drums that dont even have even feel in the lugs, even without a head installed, this evans drum key doesnt make sense at all i dont know why so many use this
@obad7633
Жыл бұрын
1 its based off of tension 2 you can still use your ears and 3 hopefully you know many people use these without issue 😂im from 2 years in the future here to tell you they work fine its not a cheat code to tuning drums but they do what they advertise.
@tammanaq
6 ай бұрын
I'm a gear tech and not a drummer. I have great succes with the Evans Torque Key. It's brilliant and saves me a lot of time. I also have a digital TuneBot for fine tuning. I can't imagine going back to only using a regular drum key again.
@recordartistdyanvillavicen4539
6 жыл бұрын
THANKS FOR THE TIPS ERWIN BODENSTEIN. :)
@isaacadams5524
6 жыл бұрын
What's the point of spending 30$ on a drum key if you still need to tap the lugs?
@satopsycho2152
6 жыл бұрын
Isaac Adams You got the point man
@stevenwehrung1033
5 жыл бұрын
It makes a click dude ! Now you can piss you bandmates off even more than before by tuning your snare in the middle of a rehearsal ! Yeah... Pretty much the only positive point I found...
@kevinfrazee7690
5 жыл бұрын
Just watched this video, and while watching him fine tune like crazy at each tension rod I had that same thought
@stevenwehrung1033
4 жыл бұрын
@@williamperri3437 the key ? I don't know... The pissing off the band mates part, sure. Everything you Do as a drummer will automatically Piss your mates off ^^
@igunashiodesu
3 жыл бұрын
Because the tool you're looking for costs around $125-150. This at least gives you an even tension which then you can tune it to your desire tone.
@sparrovski
2 жыл бұрын
I could never figure out where zero was so I abandoned it for the classic method unless I needed it for quick tuning jobs ie live or rehearsal ( but a spare pedal and snare is a must) I also use the lowest torque setting on my power driver with a bit so tensions are all the same then back them off by hand/key. I dont think this torque key is meant to be the be all and end all but is to assist to speed the process to a level where fine tuning by hand/key and ear begins.
@LevitatorMusic
6 жыл бұрын
I did NOT expect this dude to sound like that! lol
@satopsycho2152
6 жыл бұрын
What do you mean??
@brucevilla7490
5 жыл бұрын
I haven't used one but here's my assessment. That is basically a miniature click type torque wrench that mechanics use on cars and they are highly calibrated. If you drop a torque wrench it falls out of calibration and is worthless unless you get it re-calibrated. The fact that you are jumping all over the lugs and readjusting them for tension and equal sound means that it is not cranking to the exact same tension on each one, which means it is not calibrated very well. And if you drop your tuning key, which most drummers do constantly, it will become further useless.
@emasart
5 жыл бұрын
Maybe 8 pounds of torque at one end of the snare doesn't make the drum head sound the same as 8 pounds at the other end??? Maybe the drum heads don't work as the bolts of an engine do. Lol good point tho
@ncimson5318
Жыл бұрын
I use a Dremel HSES-01 with Ahead ADKDB and works great for home use or on the road
@stixxnstonerz3450
5 жыл бұрын
This key is good for newer drums. Once when it gets older and the tension of the rods are not the same, it can be a hassle. ( some rods will turn smoothly and others my be tougher because of rust.) My advise is to get the tunebot.
@henrikrathje7698
5 жыл бұрын
tunebot or drum dial are better.. drum dial is the best in my opinion.. because it does not require to strike the drum.. but the torque key gets you around 90-95% of the way.. fast.. and quiet.. until you fine tune by ear.. thats a great advantage over tune bot.. Drum dial is close to perfect.. and is absolutely quiet.. backstage and on stage thats simply the best.
@HR2635
4 жыл бұрын
@@williamperri3437 hmm.. I think so.. but both work.. I like that the drum dial has a metal guide to make sure you set the tool the same distance form the hoop.. but if you own the tama version that is fine too!.. some say Drum Dial is more accurate.. i dont know.. I think they are pretty similar in performance
@HR2635
4 жыл бұрын
@@williamperri3437 note that the NEW Tama version also has a ring around the tool.. which is actually better than drum dial!.. cause you dont need to move the metal thingy when moving a round the drum.. so if you are about to buy one, get the new Tama version www.gear4music.com/us/en/Drums-and-Percussion/Tama-Tension-Watch/25JK
@obad7633
Жыл бұрын
Why are yall not oiling your lugs? Omg if they rusty that's only your fault 😬
@haizrocdrums6020
5 жыл бұрын
Would of preferred you show the difference in tone from 1 to 9 incrementally with the torque settings . Still a proper good tool though I will definitely buy one .
@silviaalu8961
2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for these usefull details!
@Desh727
Жыл бұрын
I use this key in conjunction with a tune bot (or just my ear, lol). I check my batter heads daily with it because head tension and good consistent rebound are very important to me at the level that I play.
@obad7633
Жыл бұрын
And what level is that what does that even mean 🤣
@Desh727
Жыл бұрын
@@obad7633 a high level
@overindulgence6168
Жыл бұрын
@@Desh727 if only we could all be as talented and progressed as you😂
@Desh727
Жыл бұрын
@@overindulgence6168 true
@Micahfugatt
Жыл бұрын
@@Desh727ego driven drummers are always 👎
@HR2635
5 жыл бұрын
the idea is good.. in real life.. it only works on drums where all lugs are operating equally well.. on my drums.. well.. all 8 kits and 30+ snare.. they are not.. The better way is to use Drum Dial that measures the tension of the head.. without tapping you kan get it to 95-98% perfect pitch.. and then fine tune with your ears (always necessary unless you are tuning high pitched marching snares).. it saves time .. and your band mates ears :-).. and you can in an emergency do it back stage without being a pain in the b***.. I prefer Drum Dial over TuneBot for instance because you can do it without hitting the heads.. and its much faster.
@haizrocdrums6020
5 жыл бұрын
HR2635 I've found on my ... well ... 1 heap of shite drum kit ... lock tight and a.... hammer drill sorts out the lugs ..
@HR2635
4 жыл бұрын
@@haizrocdrums6020 hehe... that should do it too ;-)
@champ8288
4 жыл бұрын
and if your tensinon rods r not in beat condition, youll think the lug is tight, and the washer will still be freely moving.. the head tension is where readings need to be taken
@CorridorOfChameleons94
6 жыл бұрын
You keep pausing at every sentence dude. Geez.
@maeu59
2 жыл бұрын
What’s the point if you have go back around with the stick to check the tension?
@jdrumz321ify
5 жыл бұрын
I'm confused, the first time you go around there are no clicks? And you aren't turning each rod the same amount!
@robertredford4332
3 жыл бұрын
most important part is sped up.....
@ap.cotton_drums
Жыл бұрын
ok so i cannot figure out how this thing works and no videos are helping
@DrRusty5
8 ай бұрын
I've never had much luck using this, it has so much promise but dosen't seem to deliver.
@nathanfogle2777
5 жыл бұрын
Im fine with a normal drum key... thx
@quarth7772
4 жыл бұрын
I’m not😡
@e.p.5075
3 жыл бұрын
Desafinada. Chave de torque não afina peles! O pior de tudo não é gastar dinheiro à toa, é acreditar que a pele está afinada! Me admira um fabricante de peles não saber afinar um tambor...? É o fim dos tempos!
@bob336nc
5 жыл бұрын
That was the same head Erwin. We’re on to your shinanagins...🧐
@thechuckster1971
10 ай бұрын
And if you have new Tama lug bolts this torque key from Evans will not work.
@Davesounds
3 жыл бұрын
With all due respect, that's NOT the right way to use the key. The snare sounds horrible and the purpose of the key is to make the job easier, not longer. If you use the tool correctly, you'll have better results... Anyone who wants an accurate review, check Drumeo's demo here: kzitem.info/news/bejne/lqp_ua2lp6yUq3Y (That's the CORRECT way to tune a snare!)
@dobosar87
6 жыл бұрын
Which setup tension is the best for the snare drum?
@haizrocdrums6020
5 жыл бұрын
dobosar87 the one that best complements your style / genre of music you're playing .
@gwgillham
2 жыл бұрын
Whaaaaaaaattttttt.
@AlecWatson-ix3iy
Жыл бұрын
This is such a theoretical view. Every drummer knows that each tension rod will tension differently in its lug, depending on differences in thread pitch, condition, roundness, and flatness of the hoop, not to mention the condition of the bearing edges and loads of other factors. So all you acheive with this gadget has nothing to do with the tension of the head at each lug. Gives you a misleading result at best, with zero help to your actual pitch contol. Do it by ear, and forget about rod tensions. Unless you just want to waste time, effort and money. It' a gadet you'll try once and quicky consign to the bottom of your "bits box". What I really want is a key that just fits snugly on the rod... Can't be that difficult, but after 40 years, I'm still looking!
@thomasnappo6309
6 ай бұрын
Useless not to have a Number chart like the Tunebot or Drumdial....😂😂😂
@ES-yc1tp
6 жыл бұрын
This key is so useless...
@MiTechDirect
6 жыл бұрын
Hi Enoc I speak for myself personally when I say I would have to agree to a certain degree as the true value of this specific Drum Key is highly dependent on the level of "upkeep" of a specific drum in as much as things like lugs. If a drum is looked after well and the lugs pretty smooth and consistent around the drum in question, this Torque Key (with a little getting used to) can get you to a desired sound fairly quickly especially if you are in a Gig situation and don't have much time for tweaking... Nothing really beats a controlled studio sound with time, a good ear and a good old fashion drum key :-) What is your quick tune tool of choice?
@colinburgess7728
6 жыл бұрын
YOU'LL NEVER WORK IN TORQUE KEY AGAIN. (only fawlty fans wll get that)
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