The O Block video was so eye opening, when Ak said "it wasn't for entertainment" but then also went on and said "I added elements of satire" to rid himself of the guilt was disgusting
@islabee94
Жыл бұрын
Yeah I've always thought that he is a callous, vindictive, cold person, and that sealed the deal for me. I haaaate it when people lie to themselves about their motivations to make themselves look and feel better.
@lionheart5206
Жыл бұрын
@@islabee94 great but you could've just said fuck akademiks like everyone else
@robyyn_your_gender
Жыл бұрын
The section with adam22 was shocking as well, that mf really said the music is the problem
@acco5038
Жыл бұрын
Boy face shaped like a dinner plate 🍽
@nomanejane5766
Жыл бұрын
@@islabee94 ikr, he went on a whole rant abt how the war in chiraq didn't help his career blew up, or make him much money
@its_starboy
Жыл бұрын
What really rubs me the wrong way is that the people who consume this kind of content have 99% of the time never been in these situations, have little knowledge surrounding them, and only see this as entertaining. Most of these content creators and consumers have never been checked in their lives and are profiting off the deaths of black men by comidifying street violence. Lil Durk and Pusha T are right in the fact that people who only view this coverage as entertaining are ignorant in the same way conservatives view street violence without looking at the circumstances in which inner-city black men are put in American culture.
@KaylinB
Жыл бұрын
Thank you for making this comment 🙏🏾 Most non black/ suburban hip hop fans don’t see these artist as regular kids from inner cities that have had to live in these environments and actually experience these things on a daily basis. They see them as characters/ super heroes or something. Shits super disheartening and weird. A yt kid making a “hip hop” commentary channel or instagram is weird as fuck. They only see poor black ppl as entertainment or something to profit off of
@Vat6ré
Жыл бұрын
@@KaylinB facts
@iminmissouri8589
Жыл бұрын
@@KaylinB regarding your comment on ppl seeing rappers as characters/super heros- to be fair I’m pretty sure a lot of these rappers ARE actually playing a character.
@Kornelius707
Жыл бұрын
Yeah well Lil Durk makes money off of the same exploitation these media heads do. They rap and claim they do evil shit, DJ Academics or Adam22 does commentary. Music runs deeper than media coverage.
@ioiioooio193
Жыл бұрын
@@iminmissouri8589 looking at the recent increase in deaths of rappers I think there is a good amount that are actually involved. But there are definitely fakers.
@sudevsen
Жыл бұрын
This is true for true crime media as well. Imagine dying or being part of a heinous act or losong loved ones to violence,then often getting eaten up by the failed justice system only to become content fodder for wine moms selling makeup products raking in the Patreon bucks.
@Jimmy1982Playlists
Жыл бұрын
Thats very true, and not just re: independent channels on YT, but major media outlets on TV/streaming... most "True Crime" shows absolutely exploit and sensationalize the people and crimes they depict. Some people are beginning to make more conscious, empathetic documentary series, thankfully.
@everythingisland3170
Жыл бұрын
Yeah. This does really piss me tbh.
@mxhughes
Жыл бұрын
Yes this is definitely true the true crime industry rehashes the same crimes over and over on different shows,specials,documentaries,media outlets,youtubers etc.They keep bringing up Jeffrey Dahmer,OJ Simpson,Scott Peterson,Drew Peterson,Jodi Arias etc.I can only imagine the stress the families have seeing these stories come on monthly and yearly on different outlets
@LiberalsRuinEverything.
Жыл бұрын
It’s America. It’s capitalism. Stop your whining and get over it.
@morningowl43
Жыл бұрын
Imagine making it out of the hood only to still promote and exploit the neighborhood and people you grew up with and the generational hatred and violence is used as a way to “get famous” and STILL have the nerve to ask, “why am I being exploited” when people actually talk about your art (which they have a right to do) when ALL YOUR MUSIC IS LITERAL EXPLOITATION
@MaruTheGreat
Жыл бұрын
America has had a fascination w/ violence and criminality for centuries from Billy the kid and Al Capone to King Von. I simply think drill music and it’s global offshoots are just the most recent iteration. In America crime has been entertainment because it keeps people glued to their televisions, blogs, etc. And we all know that controversy sells, especially criminal controversy. You really have to address the root causes more than anything else in order to see progress. And more people really need to ask themselves why they find this kind of content engaging and entertaining. At the end of the day we ALL have agency over our own actions
@sledgehammr6615
Жыл бұрын
It’s a bit different though. The argument that “drill music causes violence” is no different from the famously debunked “violent video games cause violence” argument. Correlation doesn’t necessarily equate to causation, even if there is a strong correlation. I, personally, am absolutely fascinated with true crime. Ive probably watched every available serial killer documentary freely available on KZitem. I don’t know why, but that content fascinates me. Never in my mind could I ever conceptualize or rationalize ever doing something like that because it is so completely backwards to my nature and morality. You can be a third party looking in and, being fascinated by a type of culture without ever wanting to personally engage in it. Millions of kids play GTA and practically none of them have ever gone out and actually applied that to their real lives. Now, I’m in no way advocating that children should be playing violent video games, because it could be harmful in other ways, but 3 hours of GTA isn’t gonna turn your kid into the next school shooter.
@MaruTheGreat
Жыл бұрын
@@sledgehammr6615 Totally get your argument, and I’m not of the belief that drill music causes violence. BUT, it does greatly exacerbate pre-existing gang rivalries and tensions. The same can be said about the role of social media as well (especially w/ respect to mocking deceased gang members). And I’m no saint either. I too am fascinated w/ true crime, but mostly the mafia and organized crime because of the way they were able to infiltrate and exploit just about every facet of life (from business to politics to entertainment). However, I do think we need to be honest about the cultural fascination w/ violence and crime as entertainment in this country. Drill music, and gangsta rap before it is purely poverty porn for those who enjoy the music and the stories behind the lyrics. In a way, it’s taking “keeping it real” in hip hop culture to its natural extreme, and I think that’s what makes the music so popular. There is a raw authenticity behind the lyrics, and in this context that is not a good thing at all.
@joelman1989
Жыл бұрын
Perfectly said
@xxora6568
Жыл бұрын
*humanity has had a fascination with violence Look at gladiators loo
@myjciskate4
Жыл бұрын
@@renee7271 Correlation doesn't equate to causation. The Finish police who literally investigate this have even come out and stated that it has no connection to rap music lol. Dressing and acting like roadmen, because they're influenced by the style and aesthetic of the music, isn't the same thing as causing violence. You kind of refuted your own comment by staging that Finland doesn't have a high rate of crime. Finland’s violent crime rate is only high in comparison to certain Western European counties noted for having exceptionally low rates of violent crime. Finland’s overall violent crime rate is pretty much comparable to the US state of Minnesota, which is one of the safest states in the US lol. The tiny amount of crime that happens in finland can be attributed to factors like relative poverty (relative to Western Europe, that is), drinking culture, and gun culture. Do you have any studies suggesting that drill music specifically is the cause of violent crime? Because sociologists have studied this. Finland’s areas with slightly higher levels of crime are located in the rural north, far away from Helsinki, the nation’s economic and cultural capital. These areas tend to have relatively poorer economies than other parts of Europe, leading to some relative rural poverty. I keep using the term “relative” here, because it’s important to note that Finland is not a poor country. Not at all, but Finns on the average do have less disposable income than, say, the Dutch or Norwegians. And that’s most noticeable in the far north. Secondly, Finland has high rates of gun ownership for a European state, and of course, gun ownership is going to be much more common in rural areas, where guns are needed for hunting and defense against animals. And thirdly, you have Finnish drinking culture, which is influenced by Finland’s proximity and close historic cultural ties to Russia, the Balkans, and Poland. Finns tend to binge drink when they drink. When they drink, they drink a lot, and it’s not watered down wine or beer, but rather strong liquors. So there you have it, relative poverty in some rural areas which compared to Western Europe, relatively higher gun ownership than most other European countries, and a tendency toward binge drinking that results in ever so slightly more violent crimes. That slight increase in crime is alcohol related, done by serial offenders. Isolated incidents of groups of young people committing offenses is not a sign of gang activity. But I think most Finns would say that’s an acceptable compromise. They live a pretty good life over there, after all.
@cooldrop02
Жыл бұрын
It's nuts that Channel 5 got to this and, in a very nuanced way, exposed DJA in a succinct way.
@goatham92
Жыл бұрын
Didn’t rlly expose him it’s been pretty common knowledge that Ak is a clown. Still a great video tho
@cooldrop02
Жыл бұрын
@@goatham92 I personally had no idea. Never listened to is podcast and didn't really get into who he was until that weird interview with The Migos and Joe Budden
@malcolmxpanther
Жыл бұрын
They didn’t expose him. No white dude going to a black hood is about to expose a black man
@sparxthepoetchannel7996
Жыл бұрын
“Succinct” I don’t see that word used often lol
@thewriter8762
Жыл бұрын
@@cooldrop02 I’m on the same boat as you but I’ve seen enough clips to gauge the guy he is. I mean he feels like the journalists in sports media that think that because they did a blog means they know more than the average man. They hold their own biases and act like no one should hold them accountable for their takes. The worst thing I seen from him was him talking about the J Cole bronze medal thing and saying “Kendrick or Drake wouldn’t say some shit like that” and it’s sad that a man that gives props to his contemporaries is somehow a bad thing.
@jehovanahblahoua771
Жыл бұрын
I never knew there was a name for a topic like this but overall Shawn explains it very well. Dude talks about the things that we all seem to pass over
@2feettotheground
Жыл бұрын
Bro I seriously must be getting old because these comments are insanely corny to me
@feelnowayss
Жыл бұрын
FD Signifier does good analysis like this if you wanna check it out. Hope Shawn watches one of his vids on stream eventually.
@jehovanahblahoua771
Жыл бұрын
@@2feettotheground congratulations??
@skywalkerogwav1805
Жыл бұрын
@@2feettotheground youtube comments been corny for a while now
@dingowaffle5700
Жыл бұрын
@@2feettotheground it's just people replying to what he was talking about in the video....
@illexpreshun
Жыл бұрын
Joe Budden going that hard at Adam22 but not Akademiks is where I have a problem. While it's valid to question Adam, the JBP just had Akademiks on their show and didn't press him at all. Even worse, they talked about building a platform and being a boss and ownership as if Akademiks didn't build his off of exploiting Chicago, my city, shamelessly and has never once tried to help or give back to Chicago. It seems like he went hard on Adam22 to over compensate for what he's not willing to do with Akademiks because he wants to protect that relationship. But if you have a problem with what Adam's done then you can't give Ak a pass because his exploits was far more disrespectful and egregious.
@levigenesis6350
Жыл бұрын
The bottom line for me is Akademiks is black and Adam22 is white. That's the only reason why Budden went at him so hard
@mr.j9103
Жыл бұрын
I’ve said it before, but while I don’t agree with everything Vic Mensa says, he is and was 1000% correct in everything he said when he pressed ak all those years ago on complex. That War on Chiraq series is absolutely disgusting.
@urielcalderon9639
Жыл бұрын
Budden did go in on ak at everyday struggle big bro himd even warned him that he would get hurt doing fu>
@illexpreshun
Жыл бұрын
@@levigenesis6350 Right, I do think that's part of why he did go at adam but that's picking and choosing who he comes for based on the same principles. If we're talking about the exploitation of murdered black lives, no ones been more of an opportunist, exploitative and disrespectful as Ak. Not being from here and just sticking his nose in gang conflicts he has no context for and reporting on murders like it was a game, laughing n shit. Ak disrespecting these black communities using racial slurs and clowning these deaths was as blatantly disrespectful in exploitation as I've ever seen in hip hop as a media platform.
@wackyclock
Жыл бұрын
@@levigenesis6350 joe did go after AK tho, way before he went after adam
@TheWhills
Жыл бұрын
As someone who was aware of Adam22 since his BMX days...100% he takes advantage. Dude is narcissistic as it gets.
@matthiasburatowicz5200
Жыл бұрын
Same here! he ruined a whole generation of riders, created drama, constantly hated on legends and core aspects of the community and even made Ian Schwartz quit with that cringey TMZ like story about his personal life. And don't even make me start with all the fiascos in the OSS days.
@TheWhills
Жыл бұрын
@@matthiasburatowicz5200 yyyyup. Dudes a leach
@yukasuk2264
Жыл бұрын
Adolf22
@tinktink360
Жыл бұрын
I hope this video blows up because more people need to see this. I’ve always felt like Vlad, Adam, Akademiks are/were exploitive.
@Justin_GFM
Жыл бұрын
Its not just them either which is sad, there’s more people who are exploitative in various spaces that you might not even think of. Look at Shaun King for example, he can’t survive without a wild news story or headline and he makes his money off that. Akademiks used that lane to get to where he is now as well. Grifting should be one of the seven deadly sins lol
@paveantelic7876
Жыл бұрын
by your logic then reviewing music from the chicago drill scene is exploatative too
@who_is_dis
Жыл бұрын
@@paveantelic7876 Not really, since it's promotional as well.
@kiyokochanable
Жыл бұрын
.Have you shared to help the so called "blowing up"?.
@MaruTheGreat
Жыл бұрын
If you criticize the bloggers covering the street-end of drill music you must also critique the record labels that approve the marketing budgets and sometimes go as far as encouraging their artists to lean into their gang affiliation, and making self incriminating posts on social media.
@JohnDoe-pm9ip
Жыл бұрын
It really hit me how weird it is that I say, “Black Lives Matter” publicly, yet privately consume a genre of music that is about violence that directly affects Black Men in America. I do not think Drill artists are wrong; many are telling stories about their environment. The problem is how audience members like myself consume it. I need to stop perpetuating this through my own choices in media consumption.
@burrybondz225
Жыл бұрын
Black lives matter is a scam but i get your point. People feel hypocrticial championing black causes while silently encouraging the destruction of the black man. To your point, I think drillrappers are 100 percent wrong. It is literaly kill music. I try to not judge people because everybody leads their own lives but evil is evil.
@ey3z4ya
Жыл бұрын
Great comment
@masterlong100
Жыл бұрын
Thank you Shawn. This is the best analysis I've seen yet. I still think people haven't addressed an important thing Adam said (and what many people unfortunately believe) - that conflict is the heart of hip-hop. I think most hip-hop media, in exploiting young Black men and women, have also created this narrative that hip-hop is purely Black toxicity on display. I just hope Black people can reclaim the image of our culture...
@Justin_GFM
Жыл бұрын
When he said “conflict,” he explained in the pod that it was simply referring to who could be the best. He wasn’t actually talking about conflict regarding violence
@masterlong100
Жыл бұрын
@@Justin_GFM I see. That is different (and you have changed my view of Adam). I agree that competition is a significant part of hip-hop today, but I would still say it isn't the heart. I see the heart of hip-hop as Black expression & connection. But thank you for clarifying that.
@@javan_o_ekhalie It does! But they are definitely not interchangeable. We express way more than just conflict
@Z3ROMyth
Жыл бұрын
@@masterlong100 I agree Black freedom of expression should be at the forefront of hiphop, not conflict.
@RoarTheRapper
Жыл бұрын
The really good argument you made about people delegitimizing the situation in an effort to capitalize on it or downplay the seriousness of it reminds me of how a lot of people justify stuff on the Internet. They’ll say things like “well that’s just Twitter”, like it’s not used by a bunch of human people choosing to be assholes for their own gain. It just downplayed the seriousness of the situation, which doesn’t allow for any discussion about how we can improve, and it gives those people a platform to do whatever they want.
@OfficialChrissums
Жыл бұрын
Theres a big difference between how Akademics, Budden, and Adam22 talk about these things vs people like you, blackyspeaks and trap lore ross talk about it. The difference is tact, an understanding of the severity of the events, and of how things like gang violence come from systemic issues vs individual moral issues. Obviously the second group understands that, and their content is appropriate and informative as a result. The first group are basically extracting the bag out of corpses like the little sisters in bioshock.
@heisenberg2731
Жыл бұрын
Okay
@m00nmanxvi
Жыл бұрын
man fuck trap lore ross
@Sky-dz1gj
Жыл бұрын
Trap Lore Ross? The white boy who goes deep into the crevices of gang violence and exposing rappers's felonies for some youtube money? Lmao
@valdu5899
Жыл бұрын
Lol traplore ross exploits off of deaths
@reidro31
Жыл бұрын
you had me until you said Trap Lore Ross. Ross make’s exploitive videos covering gang violence while cracking jokes about it and makes money. I’d say he’s closer to Adam or Ak than Shawn or Blackyspeaks
@legoking101
Жыл бұрын
Joe Budden IS gonna talk about the capitalist Jay-Z topic and he's gonna fumble it.
@mfathelyricist
Жыл бұрын
Cuz he still hopes to get a HOV interview some day.
@sjagkid
Жыл бұрын
You on the front page of hip hop media now man. Keep up the good work and inspire the ones who come after you
@garyshawn
Жыл бұрын
love that he’s back uploading
@CuhhDiii
Жыл бұрын
Spaghetti sauce
@trashboat8334
Жыл бұрын
But I feel high when I’m next you bae used to be my girl used to be my boo thang
@MK-we9sw
Жыл бұрын
This is not new. Hip hop media has always thrived off of all of this. Even before AK there were magazines, then blogs, Worldstar....even Shawn technically benefits from the violence.
@wanderstar4069
Жыл бұрын
Exactly. Unless he listens to gospel rap. Everytime he reacts to artists who mentio drugs or violence. That's still promoting.
@MrSpicabooo
Жыл бұрын
@@wanderstar4069 exactly, only way to get rid of this violence is to kill the entire industry itself, but theyll never do that. Thus its kind of pointless, the very views and listens to this type of music incentivizes the behavior they speakin out against.
@SpeedyUsher
Жыл бұрын
Exactly. Shawn Cee is the pot calling the kettle.
@CHarr1991
Жыл бұрын
I definitely agree about relationships being based on what’s mutually beneficial for both parties. Same argument can be made about business arrangements and marriage decisions.
@DEDSEC.
Жыл бұрын
Whew, ever since SHAWN reacted to the joe budden video about some of the hip hop content creators covering up pretty obscene and messed up stuff for a lil bit of monetary gain. I knew that this video would be a thing.
@DEDSEC.
Жыл бұрын
And the way that people were thrashing at volksgeist for calling out TLR for also participating in that pigsty, I was in absolute shock.
@jamesss8656
Жыл бұрын
Could you explain peoples general stance on TLR? I don’t really pay much attention, I’m guessing most people see him as an exploitative outsider?
@desihayward2510
Жыл бұрын
@@DEDSEC. I don’t really feel like TLR is bad. He used to be corny with how he covered certain topics but his videos feel more like documentaries now.
@13JacksonMr
Жыл бұрын
@@DEDSEC. idk if you would technically consider TLR for what he does tho. His isn't daily covers on the gang violence and interviewing gang members. His earlier videos were corny but most of his stuff are documentaries rather than just everyday coverage or interviews with the rappers who also happen to be affiliated with gangs.
@michaelsangiovanni1934
Жыл бұрын
I’m happy this man growin!! First found him when he was reacting to music on his front porch lmaoo he always got smtg insightful to say
@albertglowacki9316
Жыл бұрын
Joe Budden is definitely not the street politics guy, their show is basically a comedy podcast about rnb artists at this point. He may not be entertaining to all, but I think he’s out of the harmful content conversation now.
@Mb1ax_
Жыл бұрын
For sure, I was so lost seeing people in the comment section saying his podcast is benefiting from tragedy because where??
@eternalblasphemy6526
Жыл бұрын
@@Mb1ax_ No, it just benefits from drama (basically, the other side of a coin).
@chisimpson3376
Жыл бұрын
Yea but you also have ice who’s an advert listener and supporter of drill music. He’s also made comments such as “if it doesn’t have shoot em up bang bang in it I don’t wanna listen” 🤣 also joe also inserted his opinion on the tax stone and Troy ave beef. That’s why him and Troy ave don’t get along. That’s street beef. Joe is a walking contradiction if you pay close attention
@jampanther8846
Жыл бұрын
@@Mb1ax_ They don't watch it. Joe and them don't cover street shit and when somebody dies they say RIP and play outstanding and move on to another topic! 🤷🏿♂️
@bpnation37
Жыл бұрын
Joe never talks about street shit on the podcast.
@TheCompanyMan
Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the shout out, sir. Great commentary.
@shutupjoeshawn
Жыл бұрын
Joe, Adam ,& AK along with every blog nowadays benefit from tragedy. It would be difficult to discourage fans from engaging with their content, but listeners should at least realize the markets were feeding
@EnterAdman
Жыл бұрын
How so with Joe? They tend to breeze past the tragedy.
@jampanther8846
Жыл бұрын
That isn't true! Joe don't cover street shit or when niggas die for content and profit. They play outstanding and say r.i.p when it happens and cover something else! 🤷🏿♂️
@kashstory
Жыл бұрын
Honestly, let's be real, because details and context are important. You can't just group in all of hip-hop media with the likes of Adam and Ak. They cross the line. Especially AK, he injects his commentary on those matters like it's primetime entertainment, he's not a a journalist, he's a gossip commentator who took it too far.
@AnDr3w066
Жыл бұрын
They were already doing it. Social media just showing what was already there
@martinc8325
Жыл бұрын
@@kashstory Honestly let's be real, the rappers benefit from this shit too. This is super hypocritical to call out these people when you got a bunch of other guys bout to hop on a track talking about how they ran down and murdered someone and get millions of views and a record deal. If you're going to take a stance against the media guys you better be ready to take a huge stand against drill itself which is largely detrimental to our communities and profits off Black death at record rates and this is coming from someone that loves drill music but I'm starting to feel iffy about it.
@ptyten9718
Жыл бұрын
I'm actually perplexed at how people were siding with Adam and I'm not even huge fan of JBP. Thing is there's fundamental issue with Adam' argument of giving the fans what they want even if it's technically logical, which is the conditioning that fans have of constantly wanting to see and hear fucked up shit about opps, killings, shootings and fights, and that's in part due to platforms like No Jumper's. It's complete exploitation and morally bankrupt.
@FooeyMcgooey
Жыл бұрын
So you're saying they can't speak for themselves?
@ace2311
Жыл бұрын
Fans are not conditioned to want to see fucked up shit. Its literally ingrained is us. Platforms like Adam's just provide the outlet to get that content
@GDL364
Жыл бұрын
@@ace2311 ingrained in you? School shooter mentality.
@Whodnl
Жыл бұрын
Man Shawn Cee videos feel like a warm hug
@Theootbpodcast
Жыл бұрын
Lmao
@OfficialChrissums
Жыл бұрын
no pause 😤
@XingAoShen
Жыл бұрын
his mic is fucking amazing.
@lionheartz1337
Жыл бұрын
I watched a lot of adam22 as I got deeper into hip-hop through highschool. (Context I grew up as a punk/grunge/rock white kid cuz of my dad) what turned me off eventually was how little Adam seemed to care about rappers abusing those harder drugs. Just kinda sitting by or laughing it off as 19 year old little pump pours lean in his cereal and shit. Now anyone is free to do whatever with their bodies and take whatever substances they want but there's some level of glorification and or dismissal that I think is bad. Especially with all these young rappers dying of drug issues. I think Adam profited a lot off of following kids like Xan and Pump when he coulda used his age and experience to maybe help them. obviously he has his own drug problems but still shit just rubbed me the wrong way.
@islabee94
Жыл бұрын
Yeah for sure. I actually do like some of Adam22s content, but that coldness always bothered me. I noticed it especially when he was talking to that groupie girl about Trey Songz assaulting her. He clearly didn't care- found it funny even. You can tell he rarely ever empathises with anyone and that makes his content inherently exploitative in my eyes, because if you're not viewing the person you're interviewing with any compassion, what are they to you? A bag. Clicks and clout.
@katscandance
Жыл бұрын
U got it right. Why is adam22 mocking and talking shit on young artists facing drug addiction, violence, trauma, etc when he’s clearly HAPPY to put those topics in his thumbnail, video title, and just marketing off it in general
@early20rager63
Жыл бұрын
Bro that Lil Pump lean cereal interview in his house was extremely sad. It made me realize how effed up Lil Pump and everyone around him actually were. That house was quiet and dark and everyone was laid out sleeping on couches (probably off drugs) it made me pity Pump after seeing that interview because Adam continued his regular life after that and that interview was Lil Pump’s life.
@squish5871
Жыл бұрын
It's not glorification. Those are adults who are going to make their own decisions and he's there to make content and interview them. You really think a grown 40-year-old man should sit there until a 22-year-old not to do the drugs he's going to do regardless?
@ace2311
Жыл бұрын
@@squish5871 facts. Ppl are trying to switch the argument to "you are not empathetic/sincere enough". Ffs ppl are indulging in substances that are highly regarded as dangerous and illegal. At some point you have to take some accountability. I'm not trying to minimize addiction and the events that lead up to it but at some point but where's the responsibility
@Nigel100
Жыл бұрын
Strongly agreed with everything you said. Im a fan of the JBP and this was one of the nastiest, shortsighted arguments I’ve ever seen. I don’t mind taking time to point out where they don’t like how he does things. But it got to the point where they were basically blaming him for systematic issues in the community.
@Nettamorphosis
Жыл бұрын
I think it’s true that the more interesting (and frankly, more disturbing) discussion pertains to why we, the viewers, wanna see it rather than why a media person illuminates it.
@pandemic1560
Жыл бұрын
Yo, glad you are back
@VeryLovingCat
Жыл бұрын
Nobody spoke on this the way you did. Thanks for putting this out.
@P1MPST1K
Жыл бұрын
This is a very intelligent take I can tell you’ve really put a lot of thought and effort into. A lot more than most commentators I see. Earned my subscription.
@getestar437
Жыл бұрын
Joe budden suddenly has a problem with capitalizing off of death after doing a whole show with AK is hilarious to me.
@kmoney890
Жыл бұрын
Everything about Joe’s morality is hilarious
@bigweebshawny4230
Жыл бұрын
He's called out AK on everyday struggle about it plenty of times
@getestar437
Жыл бұрын
@@bigweebshawny4230 I'm sure he has, but being business partners with someone you disagree morally with to that degree shows either 1.) a lack character and ability to stand on your morals or 2.) Performative activism.
@jamolbonaparte6908
Жыл бұрын
@@getestar437 but does AK still do that (you can probably enlighten me here)?, If he no longer does it then what the harm in being business partners today as opposed to back then
@getestar437
Жыл бұрын
@@jamolbonaparte6908 Well not to that degree. But he did something similar during the time him and Joe was working together. When X died Ak uploaded a video and titled it. "Last interview of XXXtentacion before death." Or some clickbait title like that. And I never saw Joe call Ak out for that. (Edit. He may have changed it now But I vividly remember him doing this.)
@mikef55
Жыл бұрын
Finally, someone is saying SOMETHING. I've felt this way for a long time, especially VLADTV.
@jackgregg6200
Жыл бұрын
So well put Shawn, I appreciate your insight!
@erickontiveros5409
Жыл бұрын
Really respect the way you went about this 👌🏼
@obigerald5834
Жыл бұрын
RIP PNB Rock, I think they should keep talking about the degeneracy that is hip hop culture, the senseless violence that is perpetrated by this so called thugs and also shine more light on the problems within the black community
@Lazyfoal
Жыл бұрын
You right. I honestly prefer if they lie in their raps. It’s disheartening seeing all these young men die every year man.
@darkseedfile
Жыл бұрын
reminds me of the keemstar/etika situation,while saying keemstar killed etika is a stupid argument it’s not crazy to say he had a major point in etika’s final decision,keemstar uploaded the interview instead of helping or reaching out and benefited from it while etika continued to spiral and ultimately ended up missing a week later
@nighthawk2548
Жыл бұрын
Wasn't Etika a big fan of keemstar? I remember his mom talked to keemstar over text too but I might be mistaken. It's easy in hindsight to blame people for not knowing the full extent of the situation but I think it's unfair to blame someone for this kind of thing especially since people act crazy all the time on the interent for views and clicks.
@nabilk46
Жыл бұрын
bro this video is so powerful, thank you for this prospective, easy sub.
@ZonymaUnltd.
Жыл бұрын
Great video, you put a lot of stuff into perspective and I appreciate you being real.
@lordrapgod4803
Жыл бұрын
Man.. I felt the exact same way about when he said “these kids don’t know any better” on the JRP. I was like damn dog they’re not baby’s they’re young men.. they do know better some just simply don’t give a fuck
@basedjj2585
Жыл бұрын
In trap lore rosses defense, the documentaries he's done on gang wars have been paramount to displaying the cautionary tales and vicious cycles of gang wars. It completely opened my eye's to a world and problems i originally knew nothing about and helped educate me in gang culture and how to respect/understand it. As well as given me new perspectives on systematic oppresion/racism. Because sometimes hearing about it in music isn't enough to actually understand what's going on in black culture. Some people really just need to see with their eye's to better understand.
@hairyhippotesticles9761
Жыл бұрын
people ripping into him here but trap lore ross does genuinely try and show the darker side of these stories. yes his videos sometimes have jokes in them but when something is serious he doesn’t joke about it
@mostmost1
Жыл бұрын
I lived near oblock and terror town but I'm older and didn't know about these gang wars. I see people going to school and work when I'm driving and shopping there.
@GDL364
Жыл бұрын
Black culture isn’t gang culture. He is exploiting death period.
@FatBatz730
Жыл бұрын
Great analysis bro 👍
@mikeytrippz9453
Жыл бұрын
yo shawn i just wanna say i got mad respect for your content and your point of view. you are the hiphop channel the culture needs. fuck all that other bullshit
@vi2935
Жыл бұрын
People love to blame the platforms then the root of the problem. That’s why things don’t get done. Same thing for racism. They call out a racist word but dont want to help the black community
@kaatheserpent1199
Жыл бұрын
Joe budden being a hypocrite? no waaaaay
@SpaceLos_TV
Жыл бұрын
Well put! I like the way you articulate your opinion. That deserves a like and sub. 🤙🏾💪🏾
@LT-dj8if
Жыл бұрын
WELL SAID!!!Need you on one of those platforms!!!
@BlackHydras
Жыл бұрын
Watching your streams gotta be the funniest shit ever to do 😭😭😭
@jmcfar03
Жыл бұрын
fr lmaoo soundboard gets me each time too
@kenouo2024
Жыл бұрын
My mouth is wide open 😭😭
@BlackHydras
Жыл бұрын
@@jmcfar03 BE HONEST WITH YOSELF 💀💀💀
@jmcfar03
Жыл бұрын
@@BlackHydras HUUU
@blvckbulma8586
Жыл бұрын
@@jmcfar03 *vine boom*
@pureliquidnation8994
Жыл бұрын
This is why the internet is fire... Started in a Drake drama rabbit hole and found a dude that has thoughtful takes on stuff.
@aracystic28
Жыл бұрын
Aye, I appreciate you speaking on this. Keep it up Big Bro.
@ndimasilwana4894
Жыл бұрын
Diggin the new format/setup. Much more earnest and engaging.
@iminmissouri8589
Жыл бұрын
Just watched the channel 5 o block video. Really made me think different about these interviewers.
@wntrnhvn
Жыл бұрын
when does self accountability take place instead of pointing fingers at the system or the white guy? im fr curious because at this point it sounds more like hate and blame thats what children do, not grown men
@michaeloneill1026
Жыл бұрын
god your content has been so amazing lately. well done
@CUHMUNITYClips
Жыл бұрын
You spitting 💪🏾💪🏾
@JordanClemons
Жыл бұрын
I think AK looked at that whole Chiraq coverage like how we use to look at Wrestling. He was giving them nicknames and adding to their personas, like how ppl use to do with the wrestlers. It was purely entertainment for AK, it essentially made him rich
@MONET8iAM
Жыл бұрын
Outside of exploiting rappers involved in gang violence and antics, I think Adam provides a platform for a whole lot of internet “personalities” and people who don’t need to be given platforms. Just a bunch of shenanigans.
@anthonyrowland9072
Жыл бұрын
He'll bring on people who are barely rappers just to get drama sometimes.
@MONET8iAM
Жыл бұрын
@@samuelhong4272 you sound like “well what about Black on Black crime?” It’s a given that it’s all wrong no matter who does it, and they’ve already been called out for decades. The people who show support for this channel, and similar ones because they like type of content I mentioned have been discouraged not to do so, and they get mad because they don’t understand why it’s not cool. There are platforms who try to stray away from covering rappers like that because that’s not what they want to feed to their audience, and they’re tired of discussing the impact of said artists (like violence, death, and imprisonment). They’re also not into giving a bunch of talentless nobodies a platform. So when you feel like you’re doing the right thing, it’s disappointing to see others profiting off of what you thought was wrong.
@d3scribe130
Жыл бұрын
Seeing you back on this channel is amazing
@d3scribe130
Жыл бұрын
And actually getting serious about something that annoys u
@blanketmobbypants
Жыл бұрын
Yo it’s been a minute ( about a year ) since I’ve seen your content. I’m glad your still making good content
@cocodrilo3042
Жыл бұрын
The problem isn’t the coverage if we are being honest, it’s the music glorifying all these activities
@princemarkanthony500
Жыл бұрын
Most these problems can get fixed so easy.. but no one talks about the Solutions
@SWDSCE
Жыл бұрын
Because that requires change and people don’t like forcing change. Only really when they are forced too.
@yuioyup
Жыл бұрын
Damn bro... thanks for this perspective
@ZachGatesHere
Жыл бұрын
Jesus this was a brilliant analysis. Bravo Shawn.
@undergroundlace1686
Жыл бұрын
I think another big question we gotta ask is (apologies for making this long winded), but at the end of the day WE play a big role in this too as consumers; when are people gonna learn, or at the very least turn away from feeding off negative and destructive content? I think that now as a 20 y.o man, i know a little better than i did as an impressionable 15-16 y.o kid, and that myself almost indulging in this type of content without knowing the societal context and the affect it has on real people is unhelpful, and even worse is being profited from by people that, like myself, don't have to live in the reality that those unfortunate folks out in Chicago (and all the other places) do.
@citystargtx3
Жыл бұрын
I remember Kendrick Lamar was saying one time that he felt uncomfortable with his lyrics (black empowerment) in front of white audiences cuz who was reaching to
@kbtitan2464
Жыл бұрын
What interview did be say that in??
@FrostyDLR
Жыл бұрын
Very well put into word, very articulate and great video put to together. I was coming into this expecting it to be a Adam 22 bashing hate video, but you made some valid points I 100% agree with
@teaoh4485
Жыл бұрын
This is the first video I’ve from you and i like your perspective because of that I’m going to subscribe
@daedae556
Жыл бұрын
From my knowledge it’s weird you got people who has lived that life wanting to get away from it while the ones who didn’t have to live it choose to involve themselves in it. I have lost close friends and even family to the streets and I never understand next does suburb kids and even adults want to go through that type of trauma
@ejp507
Жыл бұрын
The media only gives US what we want. That’s the problem these people virtue signaling tend to not realize. Shawn is correct in asking why are people interested in these things. Sad reality is that people don’t actually care as much as they make it seem they do online, and trynna change peoples opinions on what they deem as entertainment will be impossible. Unless billionaires are willing to step in and pay to change these communities for the better, this will be an ongoing issue. If the ones at the top are selfish, don’t be mad that everyone else is playing the capitalistic game to also get to the top.
@AnDr3w066
Жыл бұрын
Is it really that surprising as to why its so interesting? People often find interest in lifestyles vastly different than theirs.
@AnDr3w066
Жыл бұрын
Also why do billionaires have an obligation to save randoms 😂. No wonder people never get ahead.
@clxcwr
Жыл бұрын
I agree with you on your last point.
@ace2311
Жыл бұрын
@@AnDr3w066 agree. Always weird to me how ppl try to place their own intentions on other ppls money . I also agree with your first point. Not only a fixation with a lifestyle but a fixation overall on negative media. Things like shootings, terrorist events, crime, etc.
@ejp507
Жыл бұрын
@@AnDr3w066 I say that cause the underlying issue is poverty. The only people with the resources to make their country a better place for everyone in it are billionaires. But that’s sadly never going to happen because people are selfish and controlled by greed. If you take the kids growing up in the hood and put them in the suburbs instead, their lives almost immediately will turn out way better.
@jaybeetdown
Жыл бұрын
Man, I like how you speak and your reasoning, also, I appreciate you not saying "RIGHT?" (Speech tick) after EVERY phrase like most youtubers nowadays.
@marcusryan2092
Жыл бұрын
Hey man you have great insights
@GanjaxMan
Жыл бұрын
Shawn Cee Be Making so much sense
@intelligencecycle3523
Жыл бұрын
@Ganjaa Mann that’s one of the main reasons why I’m still subbed to Shawn Cee for years more than just the review is his raw honesty in assessing the situation at hand.
@WweThemes120
Жыл бұрын
The reality of the situation is when hip hop became about the gangster and overall criminality, it all went to hell morally. The problem with hip hop as entertainment and the community in general is we celebrate real life negativity. Rappers can’t just portray violence as entertainment they have to be “real” actually being a detriment to the community as a whole. Even you Shawn are giving these people a pass because everybody from the hood doesn’t choose to be violent or a criminal, while you can understand circumstances what we as a culture ultimately do is excuse this behavior and forget about the other people in the community who suffer from this and the precedent these “successes” mean. Young black men will continue to die if we continue to prop up criminals/murders as are role models.
@cradio52
Жыл бұрын
Didn’t hip hop become all about gangster life and criminality in the mid-90s though? So it’s been like that for decades… almost since its inception (not counting the very early hip hop days with stuff like Rapper’s Delight). So it’s not really a new phenomenon. It goes back to the east vs. west coast “war” with Tupac and Biggie, “Fuck the Police,” “murder was the case that they gave me” etc. There may have been a “calmer” period in the bling era of the early ‘00s, but yeah, it’s always been about criminality and conflict.
@myjciskate4
Жыл бұрын
Shawn is not giving them a pass. He's not saying these things aren't wrong on an individual level, and that people don't have choices. What he's saying that is these choices are weighted. We have mountains of decades and decades of sociological research showing that poverty, economic inequality, and systemic racism specifically are the main contributers of gang violence. If you want to fix gang violence, fix those things.
@davruck1
Жыл бұрын
@@cradio52 these people are just talking. how do they not open a history book?
@GDL364
Жыл бұрын
These people aren’t rappers they are gang members that rap.
@ActivateLA
Жыл бұрын
I am new to your channel, well put. Keep it up, good points 👍🏽
@inujoshwa89
Жыл бұрын
An intellectual..can't believe I haven't stumbled across you and your thoughts... ****Subscribed****
@angelsambition2179
Жыл бұрын
I did watch that discussion between Joe and Adam and not once did the question come up about why that type of content gains so much traction. The game is the game and both of them are playing it, can’t take a moral high ground. If Adam doesn’t cover it then someone else will.
@TreyDoe
Жыл бұрын
Yeah nobody touched on why that type of content is so popular
@levijetkins7423
Жыл бұрын
Adam22 thinks that the violence and tragedy is the only thing interesting about these kid's lives. When Joe asked him why he doesn't ask them questions other than their beefs, Adam says because he doesn't want to have a boring interview. Adam also mentioned Vlad a couple times as an example of why he operates the way he does which is pretty telling because Vlad is the OG culture vulture.
@FEEBOLDEN
Жыл бұрын
This was so beautifully spoken and eloquent. New subscriber here.
@realrandr
Жыл бұрын
An argument I always agreed with was that cenorship or policing of peoples opinions isn’t the way to go about things. You should just have a better response. I think that content creators have a unique opportunity to help fans find other things in the music and entertainers interesting. But there will always be people looking to benefit where there is profit. That will never change
@Kinsey6King
Жыл бұрын
I love Andrew so much. He understands and respects the culture. He’s also grown a lot the last couple years.
@L.E.O.H
Жыл бұрын
We can't excuse killings by saying it was the card they were dealt.
@OEYA4
Жыл бұрын
EASILY gained a sub. Very based and very intelligent young brother💪🏿
@henning14
Жыл бұрын
Well said👏🏽. If these guys would stop reporting about these topics violence won’t stop. It’s the way you deal with topics. For example if you interview people/your guest like a prosecutor to start drama and beef to make money of it that’s totally.
@AnDr3w066
Жыл бұрын
They were happening already. How about blaming the people actually being violent instead of making excuses
@wadecushing4863
Жыл бұрын
New video from Shawn 3rdLetterOfTheAlphabet? W
@oreo_frito
Жыл бұрын
CEEMEN STAND UP
@Euph0rical
Жыл бұрын
Very insightful video. You’ve got a new subscriber right here!
@r00tb0und
Жыл бұрын
This is a Very Poignant set of observations.
@TrappedInAWard
Жыл бұрын
When it comes down to it, I think it’s an argument of morality and empathy vs the lack there of. Joe has empathy so he can’t in good conscience cover certain things that Adam would, Adam lacks empathy and therefore has no issue whatsoever covering certain things. Unfortunately I think Adam sleeps just fine at night despite what he does on his platform and how it affects people.
@TrappedInAWard
Жыл бұрын
And with that being said there will always be sociopathic journalists out there who will have no problem making money off of other people’s misfortune, even if they are perpetuating that misfortune further by doing so
@joelman1989
Жыл бұрын
I don’t have a problem with anyone covering or making money off of violence. I have a problem with the people that do the violence and the people who enable it
@imani8307
Жыл бұрын
well no there’s a big issue with people covering this violence & using it as entertainment for others, along with monetary gain. i feel like if ur gonna cover this issue, you should do it to bring awareness, & not as something to stir drama or entertain an audience
@extramagnus4528
Жыл бұрын
@@imani8307 Why when its not gonna stop. Those animals who do it don't want it to stop anyways
@joelman1989
Жыл бұрын
@@imani8307 but people make documentaries on war and tragedy all the time. I don’t understand why we hold gang violence to a different standard where covering it is so wrong. Maybe it’s because I haven’t actually watched anything from academics or Adam 22. I have watched two videos from trap lore Ross. As long as you’re being respectful and not sensationalizing or provoking people to take sides. You should definitely have integrity and I completely understand someone having a problem with a creator who instigates further conflict by reporting rumors. Sensationalizing things. Being disrespectful.
@SeeJayTML
Жыл бұрын
@@joelman1989 the difference is these KZitemrs make videos about the violence as a joke like it’s funny rather then just informative
@djmystro1667
Жыл бұрын
Tappin in 💯
@juliusbushiv2904
Жыл бұрын
Well said brother
@dereksmith510
Жыл бұрын
5:10 Ion don't agree with a lot of Akademiks social opinions. But imo he was justified in calling some of the gang members savages they're literally mass m*rders. Describing them as anything else is detrimental to our community.
@cranberry_the_xviii9458
Жыл бұрын
To be fair, Ish wasn't referring to them as lowly beasts he was referring to them as kids because they are technically still "fresh to life" despite being through so much. A lot of these gang bangers start at a young age so they end up being fresh out their teenage years when they head to a platform like Akademiks or Adam22. While yes this whole "youngin" phrasing is not the best way to word it I don't see anything wrong with him saying "You are inexperienced. I, as an adult who has done everything you're doing rn and can relate to your struggle, want to help you do better".
@sm0kedup
Жыл бұрын
Welcome back ceemen
@dylathered
Жыл бұрын
great video, you really handled it with appropriate care
@MundoSportiva
Жыл бұрын
I like how u mentioned the trap lore ross videos as well. He's geeking over real life gang voilence as if it was a video game. Clearly he's smart enough to be aware and must carry some sort of guilt, but it's still too exciting for him, as is with all consumers of gang related content. The stakes are high cos people pay with their life and I guess that intruiges the audience, as if it were a gladiator fight in roman times, except KZitem is our amphitheatre.
@deagle2yadome696
Жыл бұрын
Gang Members: *Shoot, stab, kill and commit horrific acts of violence against Men, Women, Children, The Elderly and innocent in their own community* Also Gang Members: *Raps about doing such things in their music* Random YTer: *Covers music, incident or has artist on platform* Extremely stupid people: “OMG YALL ARE EXPLOITING!!!” Get outta here, stop killing each other first. Y’all always worried bout the wrong thing.
@REALTRUEJOURNEY
Жыл бұрын
U thought this comment was so clever and dope lol
@Technicalectasy
Жыл бұрын
@@REALTRUEJOURNEY it is clever and dope.
@deagle2yadome696
Жыл бұрын
@@REALTRUEJOURNEY y’all always worried bout the wrong thing
@REALTRUEJOURNEY
Жыл бұрын
@@Technicalectasy whatever u say lol
@RuinYourDayNow
Жыл бұрын
Very good vid. You from the springs? I see the pikes peak shirt
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