How do you manage to forge your weapons correctly on Citra? I can only grab the RNG rock assigned to me at the beginning
@Zoran501
3 жыл бұрын
On Citra, you can easily use FEFTwiddler to edit your save and give yourself 99 of every resource. But if you don't want to do that, or if you're otherwise playing without access to any external sources of food and gems, there are a few other ways you can get them: - Trade gems 5:1 at the smithy - Win more gems in the arena (once you get one, you can win more of that type without having to trade at the smithy) - Get food or gems from your characters standing around the castle - Win food or gems as prizes from the lottery shop Under those conditions, I recommend that you build in this order: After Ch. 6: Staff Store/Armory After Ch. 7: Armory/Staff Store After Ch. 8: Prison if you intend to capture anyone in Chapter 9, otherwise Lottery Shop (for extra resources) After Ch. 9: Figure out whether you have the food and gems you want to use in the near term. That could be because your castle has the sources for them, or because you've gotten them from random drops. If you do have both, build the Smithy. If not, build the Arena (to earn more gems to trade in) or the Lottery Shop (to get extra chances at finding the right gems/food). After Par 1: Build the Mess Hall. It helps in Invasion 1. After Inv 1: You get a little over 2 DVP from this battle. Build whichever two of the Smithy, the Arena, the Lottery Shop, and the Prison that you haven't yet constructed.
@Zoran501
3 жыл бұрын
For the record, the food and gem sources that you're going to get for each of the three routes are set when you complete chapter 5. You have to replay that to change them, but if you do get the ones you want, you'll have those same sources every time you start a campaign from the Branch of Fate. As a rule of thumb, in Conquest, the Pokemon Gen 3 gems (Ruby, Sapphire, and Emerald) are the good ones to have early. Those correspond to lances, axes, and bows.
@TheAxanix
3 жыл бұрын
@@Zoran501 Thanks for the helpful read. I'll probably use FEFTwiddler, I'm not too keen on the way forging works this game.
@cheryl9809
2 жыл бұрын
@@Zoran501 the gen 3 gems, that's a cool way to call it
@slushisimcambi2521
3 жыл бұрын
Shout out to that 20 move ninja.
@crispsi2078
2 жыл бұрын
He killed 15 Shuras
@NoCryinRyan
2 жыл бұрын
Could’ve seized the defend area with that movement. It’s hilarious to watch what has to be done to compensate for things like that; since these reinforcements have to spawn in specific squares, blocking them can lead to the best results.
@ziggymcdougal
3 жыл бұрын
if the ninja was that fast why didn't he just seize the green tiles and end the map? What a chump.
@Greideren
3 жыл бұрын
44:08 that ninja isn't too bright, is he...? Kinda reminds me of that PoR moment where Ike goes through a bunch of enemies for a cutscene and then comes back to where he was before.
@eyegnats
3 жыл бұрын
An hour long upload from my favorite Fire Emblem-er...... happy Pride 2 me
@goldbananas608
3 жыл бұрын
please I was thinking the same thing
@CarbonMalite
3 жыл бұрын
One thing I love about Conquest that this video really displays is that character synergy is so well thought out. Silas' personal helps hit ranges, Selena/Beruka are designed for you to use them together, and even Nyx/Effie surprisingly has a niche to fill in these early maps
@Zek3nator
3 жыл бұрын
Reclassing is the most fun part of fates, and these videos are always such cool displays of that.
@CyanYoh
3 жыл бұрын
There has never been a more fortuitous upload timing. I've gotta take notes here. ...not sure how I'm going to do this with half my team dead, buuuut I'll make do.
@Zoran501
3 жыл бұрын
I personally find this map a lot easier when my units are alive and not dead
@CyanYoh
3 жыл бұрын
@@Zoran501 Wise words of wisdom. I'll keep them in mind.
@romanzamishka
3 жыл бұрын
@@Zoran501 My Beruka died :(
@Rainshadowable
3 жыл бұрын
Your videos have helped me really reanalyze this game. I have had so much fun building characters now. Plus, I gave Wyvern Elise a go and I don’t think I’ll ever use Elise as anything else ever again. Thanks for the fantastic education.
@cartooncritic7045
3 жыл бұрын
Once you learn the magic of Wyvern Elise, it becomes insanely hard to play Conquest any other way.
@christopherpho9424
3 жыл бұрын
I understand wyvern Elise early game, but she often falls off mid game (with Leo) for me unless I especially focus and pour a lot of resources. Her low accuracy is main crux where she misses important dual strikes and hits in general.
@cartooncritic7045
3 жыл бұрын
@@christopherpho9424 Forges and Skill tonics help a lot with that. I’ve used Wyvern Elise in a couple of my Conquest runs now and she always turns out one of my best units. Leo himself also turns out pretty great if you support him with Odin and take him down the Vantage Sorcerer path he was always destined for.
@clairhibiki
3 жыл бұрын
"heartseeker doesn't work for dual strikes on units that have just spawned in" that is so weirdly specific lol
@Zoran501
3 жыл бұрын
It also doesn’t work for dual strikes when the Heartseeker unit is the one moving into place and attacking, even though it does apply for that unit's own attack and for every subsequent attack after the Heartseeker person has moved. Spaghetti code
@maxechilsemptyspace7184
3 жыл бұрын
It's always impressive seeing your aggressive style of play. I never would have thought base Elise in wyvern would be capable of taking most of the enemies on the right side. Even in my own playthroughs, I never really considered Elise strong until she promotes into Malig Knight (at which point in a recent playthrough I realized she became one of my strongest units), but as with most of your videos, I've realized my play is too timid in the end.
@alexisdipoalo9443
Жыл бұрын
Or in my case my aggressive plays are to simple compared to his
@Zoran501
3 жыл бұрын
someone please figure out how to upscale the ground textures on this map. tia
@kgoyo666
3 жыл бұрын
it's crazy how the frail healer you get early might just be one of the best combat units in conquest. But after trying wyvern Elise, it's like she never has a point where she isn't useful (except chapter 12 lol)
@ChillstoneBlakeBlast
2 жыл бұрын
They nerfed elise just for that 1 chaptee
@jonathanlgill
3 жыл бұрын
This is such a great analysis. I'd always been saying that Jakob was a bit overrated, but you hard-crunched the numbers to actually prove it. I had Elise learn Lucky 7 through a Niles marriage, to fix her hit rates (and give Move+1). It ... is maybe a bit too much grinding to be ideal, but those two skills really improve her lategame performance.
@mousefire777
3 жыл бұрын
I had a lot of fun with malig knight Felicia. Having two extra fliers with Elise and her early on changes some of the dynamics of chapter 10, and her damage is much better with a fire tome. Pretty good bonuses for corrin’s pair up as well, effective 9 move with flying if he goes into dark knight, and it lets him run around where you need him to and nuke enemies. Agreed that it’s not as optimal though, since the advantages kinda evaporate later in the game during some of the hardest chapters
@irismarin8613
3 жыл бұрын
That Ninja reinforcement at the end of turn 7 is the best character in Fates
@poscott3275
3 жыл бұрын
Hey Zoran, two questions. First, you explained why Jakob isn’t the best choice for F!Corrin marriage, so who would you recommend? Second, I watched your series on the first 5 chapters in Fates, and heard you liked Rinkah. Any build advice for her? Love ur stuff man keep it up
@Zoran501
3 жыл бұрын
Diviner/Mage!Corrin x Odin or Leo is always strong, along with Samurai!Corrin x Xander for super-strong physical 1-2. There are other nice candidates like Silas who might want the wyvern class tree, but luckily the Conquest men are blessed with the opportunity to marry other women besides Corrin for that. (And likewise, Corrin has easy access to wyvern by friendship.) Because of that , with female Corrin I'd also consider giving her husband a class specifically to make him a good pair-up partner for her. For example, I might pick Diviner talent and marry Niles so that he could provide +5 Mag, +6 Spd, and +2 Res as an Onmyoji to my Tomefaire Malig Knight Corrin. As for Rinkah, in Birthright she makes a surprisingly good magical unit. She gets decent magical damage output from her personal skill, especially with the Bolt Axe; enemies have pretty low Res; she's a lot bulkier as an Oni Chieftain than any other mage; and she gets Orochi support (for Mag/Spd boosts and eventual Tomefaire access).
@cartooncritic7045
3 жыл бұрын
That one Ninja is going to live rent free in my head forever now.
@ElectricLegend14
Жыл бұрын
The coolest thing about these videos is knowing it will work out well, even when you don't always know how at first.
@ralvo9819
3 жыл бұрын
i love these videos so much
@Roysanberry
3 жыл бұрын
Considering you're the reason I love Elise so much now it always fun to see her shine. Man but at this point you could write a dissertation on how to deal chapter 10 conquest and why it's so fun to route.
@Mekkkah
3 жыл бұрын
lol the ninja
@cloudywithachanceoffruit7831
3 жыл бұрын
gosh your FE videos are so satisfying to watch. You have a really calming and nice voice, plus that with the fact that these strategies are so fun to see come together. My casual butt can only dream of pulling off these sorts of strats. Though you have made me want to replay conquest and try out malig knight Elise, I never even considered using her like this, its really interesting!!
@zio2329
3 жыл бұрын
Even though I love analytical videos like these, my RNG always hits me in the face with the 94% misses. Gotta love it.
@JohnC6723
3 жыл бұрын
Great video! While I’d never do a 0% growths run (or even lunatic for that matter) it is fascinating to see how people can use this handicap and still come out on top with no one dead. Keep up the good work!
@jeffreycollins237
3 жыл бұрын
I could listen to your Conquest strategies every day. I would love to pick your brain on all the details of the game we haven't covered yet in these exquisite videos.
@gligurr
3 жыл бұрын
conquest videos will never get old for me
@lukek2965
3 жыл бұрын
I love these videos, I go out my way to watch them consistently, I can’t tell you how many times I’ve rewatched your conquest videos
@LeoWell303
3 жыл бұрын
Wait! So in addition to being a genius tactician, Peri is also a famous philosopher?! The more you know.
@lukecarpenter8867
3 жыл бұрын
I am IN LOVE with your content. I personally thought I broke this game...boy was I wrong. I have had my own strategies without looking at others' builds. Most of mine involved DLC items (I beat conquest lunatic without DLC first) in an attempt to say that I broke this game. You have made me want to go back to the drawing board. Thank you!
@hebecamesail496
3 жыл бұрын
I normally like to promote selena on this chapter with the master seal so I can make her a bow knight so she can deal with the Pegasus knights
@MegaScytheman
3 жыл бұрын
That Oni savage reinforcement is hilarious! I've never seen something like that in fire emblem before
@YamiBlake
2 жыл бұрын
I'm wondering, what version of the game are you using? It looks quite different from mine, especially Elise's and Nyx's profile. Also, are your units really saying something when you select them or did you add that in? Great video as always and I love your analysis at the beginning - thank you so much for helping us out! Edit: Nvm, I just found the mods you used in the description :D
@Magcargo96
3 жыл бұрын
Love the depth of this video!
@Zoran501
3 жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it!
@scrapyarddragon
3 жыл бұрын
Man, I had no idea that this was Elise's true potential. Definitely gonna try that build for her next time I play conquest, makes it easier to get her to S-support odin
@theartshrimp9656
Жыл бұрын
Hey Zoran, new fan, found you today and am enjoying the binge. I have a question relating to this play-through of conquest shown in the video. Usually Ik you use male Corrin with diviner for super Ophelia, but for female Corrin in conquest, would it be wise to do something like diviner talent female Corrin marrying Odin so she can give Odin diviner and allow Ophelia to inherit things like tomefaire and magic +2 while elise married Jakob to give Jakob wyvern without wasting Corrin’s talent on him while also having two great wyvern units in him and Elise?
@Zoran501
Жыл бұрын
That's a pretty good plan. I think it's a bit tricky to get value out of Wyvern Jakob through Elise: it takes a few more maps for them to get married, and that eats into the time when Jakob can be really dominant. It still works if you put in the effort for it, though!
@Scepti
3 жыл бұрын
I'm not sure it's fair to say Magic and Defense are Jakob's only leads on Elise, in the graph you showed Jakob had nearly triple Elise's Skill stat, the soft stats frequently get ignored in calculations like these since their effects are much more minor, but when you plan for this unit to see a significant amount of Bolt Axe combat later on, which has 65 Hit, that skill stat can go along way towards reliability, Even here Elise's hit rates were shaky at times, 80 Hit on a lot of enemies isn't bad but risking anything on a 90% chance never feels good, Especially when Effie was managing 95 displayed hit at weapon triangle disadvantage What method do you use to augment her hit-rates, she doesn't gain the Fire Tome and it's awesome 90 Hit until promotion and assuming you want her to be a long-term unit she's probably not promoting for another 5-6 chapters, and in a typical run that 20% strength growth to let her stick to the Bronze Axe isn't going to keep up too well right?
@Zoran501
3 жыл бұрын
The main way to augment her hit rates is attack stance, which is also how you power-level her axe rank in the early game. The problem with analyzing that in a one-on-one stat comparison is that the kill thresholds (and survival thresholds) become a lot fuzzier: you can bring in a lot of extra effects, such as Gentilhomme, Rose's Thorns, Heartseeker, forging the partner's weapon, giving the dual striker a pair-up partner, etc. What's nice for Elise is that chapters 11, 13, and 14 continue to be fairly kind to axe users. The only swords she might see (in chapter 14) are on weaklings who are impotent against the Dual Club. I would always promote Elise before chapter 16.
@LorenzoVill
3 жыл бұрын
Just quick question, probably the wrong place to ask, but I donwloaded the voice mod and for some reason it only plays corrin's voice
@FlamingFaith
3 жыл бұрын
Amazing video as always, I definitely have newfound respect for wyvern rider Elise. I'm curious, who do you consider to be prime marriage candidates for Corrin?
@jonathanlgill
3 жыл бұрын
I presume he's saving Corrin for Ophelia.
@jacobyo8627
3 жыл бұрын
Bruh and I struggle with it normally... mad impressive dude
@heroicvileplume7184
3 жыл бұрын
So, I’m currently getting back into ironmanning CQ Lunatic. I did a few runs that got as far as the ninja cave with Jakob marrying a female Corrin for classes, and I theorycrafted a build for Jakob that essentially puts him through Mechanist and into Master Ninja to preserve his dagger rank. I’m just not sure if that’s worth the Corrin pairing, as I don’t really know any other units that snowball that quickly from a Corrin S support. Can someone talk me in to/out of this pairing? I’m just confused as to how I treat Jakob going forward
@Zoran501
3 жыл бұрын
One issue with giving Jakob ninja access is that he just doesn’t have a lot of raw bulk-he depends heavily on the good Def bases of classes like Great Knight or Wyvern Lord, and without that, he doesn’t take hits very well. That’s one reason why it’s difficult to set him up in a way that makes him effective as an enemy phase combat unit in the latter half of the game.
@heroicvileplume7184
3 жыл бұрын
Zoran Thanks! One more thing: Because I am a casual, I’m allowing free dlc. Who would you recommend giving paragon and witch’s mark/ballistician’s seal to?
@Zoran501
3 жыл бұрын
@@heroicvileplume7184 Paragon to your favorite character, Witch's Mark to Felicia
@heroicvileplume7184
3 жыл бұрын
Zoran Thanks!
@Beachwalks4
3 жыл бұрын
Well, you had to get to your drugged out ch 11 video somehow right? I love breakdown of malig Jakob and wyvern Elise in the beginning but I have to ask: in a playthrough where you are omitting any chapters that are not part of the main story (no kids, mozu, invasions) then who would you consider to be some of the strongest options for corrin marriage besides Jakob?
@Beachwalks4
3 жыл бұрын
One thing I've noticed is that a lot of the more optimal pairings become different. If you marry Odin for instance, elise isn't really a great parent for anything else (maybe Nina but ehhh...) Silas doesn't really need it if you are going master ninja, etc.
@notanobviouschoice
3 жыл бұрын
honestly i find the best thing to do with Jakob (if using f!corrin - the best choice) is to keep him in butler till he's at lvl 13, then use one of the heart seals from the 2nd store to go to strategist to get rally and inspiration then s support with Azura nice and quick to get dwyer (inherits live to serve, and falco knight from mum). That gives you access to the best falco knight in the game in Azura!Dwyer (who can heal incidental damage to himself really well) without having to spend a tonne of time in strategist/butler which are not suited to his statline as much as falco is. A spice thing I like to do with that is then partner seal Jakob over to Kinshi and he works spectacularly giving inspiration, gentilhomme and ameterasu, with a couple of flexible slots for really good skills in rally res, air superiority or (in some v specific situations) darting blow. This mitigates his bad statline as he gives out tonnes of damage through his skills but can also take a flyer or 2 out in a pinch. People want to give him all the resources in the world at the very early game and then wonder why their unit growths are stunted towards late game! This method takes a couple of your C13 seals, rather than ALL your c6 seals (which would fuck up percy planning, as that and Wyvern Elise are probably the best use of those seals)
@SorenToKeiran-Murasaki
3 жыл бұрын
Finally soneone who appreciates Kinshi Knight Jakob! I thought I was the only one. Even better, is Falcon Knight Jakob: With Rally RES + SPD, Amaterasu, Inspiring Aura and Gentilhomme/Live to Serve, he's a pretty good staff bot.
@notanobviouschoice
3 жыл бұрын
@@SorenToKeiran-Murasaki he is a fantastic falco, but I find that he’s really overshadowed by his kid as the falco knight class skills aren’t as amazing as kinshi’s. Also, I really like the option to take out a couple of fliers with very few questions asked. v useful for the hinoka chapter, where you’d think he’d be useless in combat. Obviously it’s optimal to have him go through kinshi and then use the falco weapons but I find then that I’m using a lot of resources on a support unit when his son does staffbotting and lugging your beast killler around better.
@ketchuplover6160
3 жыл бұрын
I'm stealing this strategy now, thank you but who would you pair Dwyer up with?
@notanobviouschoice
3 ай бұрын
@@ketchuplover6160I was rewatching this video - so sorry for replying 3 years later but I rarely care for Dwyers pairing. Percy gives him Wyvern for extra damage and a fun rally to combine with res/spd but if you’re doing jakob!shigure he gets that automatically. Give him to someone who wants his support I guess ha. If you want another fun idea for using early servants in a utility/support reclass that doesn’t take their entire lives give Niles/Felicia a go. Shining bow adventurer!felicia has absurd matchups against fliers, takes out armours and then also gives you multiple 9 mov pass staff units by passing down pass and Strategist to Nina making endgame clears easy as hell Tbh I think the easiest way to beat fates is doing Niles/Early Felicia, for endgame skips SolNinja M!Corrin for mid/lategame combat and then Kaze/Camilla for trample, Life and Death, Spendthrift Midori (recruit her late as hell so you can just get trample and life and death as inheritances and auto level to 16 for killing Takumi) Conquest is such a fun game hahaha
@GIR177
2 жыл бұрын
Liked just for the beginning explanation, I was never a fan of marrying the first servant seeing as how Corrin is a highly coveted spouse for many characters and it gives you a mediocre Kana on top of that. Seeing the numbers actually laid out by comparing them to other units who need less resources really drove the point home though.
@gaminggeckos4388
2 жыл бұрын
I’m not a fan mostly due to how boring it seems. I went with it in my first playthrough when I first got Fates, and now that I’m replaying it after all these years, it really feels like there’s more interesting options.
@vincenzomarando378
3 жыл бұрын
This is like an oddly satisfying compilation.
@dijonmustard4258
2 жыл бұрын
unreliable. this strategy hinges on a turn 11 Good Fortune proc.
@Raphaelk33
3 жыл бұрын
Real good video, dude, cheers! Also do you know of any guide or something on how to install the textures you put on the description? Wanna make my game as clean as that
@SuperZez
3 жыл бұрын
So who do you personally think is the best choice for Corrin's partner? Sorry in advance if you said somewhere in the video and I missed it.
@Ka-Ping
3 жыл бұрын
Anyone you fancy ❤
@morningtoast9785
3 жыл бұрын
Hey zoran big fan of your content, I'm not sure if it warrants a video, what do you think is the most broken way to go about conquest with dlc specific rewards? I thought maybe something like close counter or some of the stat-taker skills might be pretty broken but I was curious what you think
@maverick5169
3 жыл бұрын
While I am not the KZitemr I found some pretty nice builds Nosferatu Oni Chieftan Felicia. Can get Warp so she can demolish one side of a map and teleport to help the others when she is done. Other units can do that but Felicia gets Warp faster Lodestar Xander. Speedtaker is stupid. Vantage Tomefaire Ophelia as Dark Falcon. The classic build everyone loves but with wings!
@Zoran501
3 жыл бұрын
I haven't put thought into anything other than the path bonuses + the free Witch's Mark. Dread Fighter: Silas (after level 10), Jakob, Laslow. In Birthright, Azama. (Dread Azama is nuts!) Dark Falcon: Leo, Felicia, Nyx, Odin. In Birthright, Sakura, Orochi, Hayato. Witch: Felicia, Elise, Nyx. In Birthright, Sakura and Orochi.
@azurethescaletipper210
3 жыл бұрын
I like the new thumbnail. I think there was some editing magic used there.
@grantcactus9973
3 жыл бұрын
I’ve never been able to do a maniac run of conquest, not even a hard mode run actually. I’m kind of curious if I tried hard mode if Wyvern rider Elise is something I could do, since I typically rely on healers as much as possible
@jonathanlgill
3 жыл бұрын
To quote a famous KZitemr, "Weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!!!"
@gothgf6667
3 жыл бұрын
just in time. This map has been kicking my ahh for days in lunatic 😭
@scrapyarddragon
3 жыл бұрын
you don't marry felicia to corrin for felicia, you do it because she makes a great backpack for corrin. that and they can reach s-rank and spawn kana super early to get an extra chapter to train for ch10.
@dorothybelrose9167
3 жыл бұрын
Of course I find this right after I beat the chapter on lunatic
@imnotnarcian
2 жыл бұрын
Reclassing Elise is kind of like getting an early game peg knight in older games
@maverick5169
3 жыл бұрын
I feel this strat has a heavy My Castle reliability issue, when it comes to Elise's stats that is. Sure, one can wait or manipulate for the right chefs and for the material spawns to trade and get every material needed, but what about the meat? Unless it spawns when you reach the route split (or even worse when you create Corrin? I don't know when the My Castle gets seeded), one must either 1: wait for an rng dialogue with an unit that gives the meat 2: visit other castles and I don't think the servers of this game will last forever. Plus those hit rates are painful
@Zoran501
3 жыл бұрын
The resource spawns are set when you complete chapter 5. If you’re not willing or able to replay that to get decent castle resources, you’ve still got some time to run into a meat drop in the normal course of gameplay. The mess hall is like #5 on the building priority list in a run where you don’t have access to other castles (for more food/gems/DVP), so you’ve got 4-5 chapter intermissions to check/manipulate item drops. And by level 10, Elise has a 67% chance to gain at least 1 Str anyway (and 99.5% to get 1 Spd)-74% if she reaches level 11.
@maverick5169
3 жыл бұрын
@@Zoran501 That's the issue, I am still replaying the two same maps over and over to get the right outcome. On top of that I am also hoping for the chance of Elise getting strength if I don't force myself to replay those maps until I get lucky. Which yes it can happen on average but there is still the possibility of this failing. Right now this set up it totally valid cause I can visit other castles, but in time it will need rng manipulation, which is the same as manipulating the level ups. The player will eventually succeed but not only are they save scumming but are also replaying a particular map over and over to get the right drops, which is tedious
@SorenToKeiran-Murasaki
3 жыл бұрын
I might be wrong, but aren't your units' level ups predetermined in the chapter they join, and rolled again when you reclass them? In thst case, can't you just replay chapter 7 over and over again, until WR Elise gets +1 str (20% chance iirc) when she levels up from lv 5 to lv 6? This guarantees that she will gain at least +1 Str, thus increasimg the likelihood that she will gain another point on her way to lv 10+.
@Zoran501
3 жыл бұрын
@@SorenToKeiran-Murasaki they’re not rerolled when you change classes. However, the difference in class growths can affect which growths you hit. For example, if your Def growth is 15 in Troubadour but 35 in Wyvern Rider, and the number that was rolled for your Def growth on your next level was 24, then you won’t gain Def as a Troubadour (15
@maverick5169
3 жыл бұрын
@@SorenToKeiran-Murasaki Yes, that's save scumming for level ups. If the reclass re-rolls the level ups, I'd say Mozu's paralogue is better for that, since I can use the healing staff until Elise is almost at full exp on chapter 7, save on the paralogue and reclass at every try.
@blusham4629
3 жыл бұрын
Is lategame possible in the no growths zone?
@Zoran501
3 жыл бұрын
Sure! It’s been done before. I’m not really doing proper 0% growth strategies-you have nothing to gain by leveling past 10, so you’ll want to promote instantly. But you’ll also just ditch most of the early-game units without promoting them at all. For these videos, I’m more interested in showing how long those units can stay viable in their base classes. That tells you something about how well they can perform in an unmodified run even if you get really bad growth luck.
@SorenToKeiran-Murasaki
3 жыл бұрын
Whith some super specific set up, like Samurai Corrin x Camilla, it's even possible to ORKO Takumi on 0% growths lunatic. Mozu should also be able to pull of a similiar feat (I never tried it, but I remember watching a video somewhere on YT). Not that it is fun tho: enjoy having 30% ish hit rates on most bosses and having to rely on crits to beat them.
@zhao4422
2 жыл бұрын
Dagger and Tome is the best
@Short..
2 жыл бұрын
glad i can always rely on lil sister when i choose to be the big brother and dont have jakob
@quinnlee-miller9792
2 жыл бұрын
9:30 dear god, the skill difference is so painful; ik who is getting Ryomas skill book now lol
@christopherpho9424
3 жыл бұрын
I never understood marrying the servant since they fall mid to late game by better stave units or just Elise if you keep her in the tree. I’ve tried giving Jakob ninja access to have early Golembane and Shurikenfaire for chapter 17, but he just falls after that. If he had friendship support besides cavaliers he would be a lot better.
@SorenToKeiran-Murasaki
3 жыл бұрын
Marring the servant is actually not as bad as Zoran makes it look like. Firstly, you can pull off some nice combos, like spamming two Shuriken Faire Replicate Jakob (Felicia?) early on, or getting super easy access to skills like Amaterasu or Savage Blow. Then, there's the added benefit of getting two paralogues super early, which can be a lifesaver in an ironman run if you have to replenish your ranks; or in normal runs as well, if you need a quick and substantial EXP boost. Finally, the best pro of marrying your servant is that you get one S support done super quickly, which makes your paralogue management way easier. All things considered, I would actually dare to say that marrying your servant is by far the best pairing choice for Corrin. Yeah, Corrin may benefit from marrying other units like Arthur/Nyx/Niles/Izana/Xander/Keaton and so on, for classes and pair up bonuses, but Corrin is already so strong that they really don't need to run around paired-up; and, if you really want to give them a pair up bot, why not just give them one of their servants with their amazing personal skills?
@mousefire777
3 жыл бұрын
Zoran didn’t make marrying the servants to be bad, he just said he thought there were better options. I think you’re overrating a lot of those advantages. To make full use of the servants, you have to dedicate a lot of seals to them to go through and get a lot of late game skills. It’s kinda hard to justify when they inevitably fall off late game. And the early paralogue Jakob gives is hardly necessary. Maybe it’s useful in an iron man, but that’s not the default format for evaluating units
@SorenToKeiran-Murasaki
3 жыл бұрын
@@mousefire777 A partner seal in the early game is hardly "a lot of seals". Also, I dare you to find better marriage candidates for Corrin (when it comes to availability and cost-performance ratio, the servants beat any other unit in the game; it may not be the best pairing for them -stuff like JakobxAzura is superior to JakobxCorrin- but is definitely the best pairing for Corrin).
@mousefire777
3 жыл бұрын
@@SorenToKeiran-Murasaki A partner seal only gets you shurikenfaire or replicate, not both. 2 partner seals is pretty steep. Silas is probably better for F!Corrin for early elbow room, and they have decent synergy thanks to Silas' and Corrin's personal skills stacking effectively. For M!Corrin, Azura or Camilla are both good choices since they both are fast supports and sky knight and wyvern both give good skills and endgame options
@jerry3115
3 жыл бұрын
Okay but archer talent corrin marrying Felicia for bowfaire quick draw shining bow Kinshi Felicia An actual point though is that malig Jakob would have considerably higher accuracy than Elise, and he doesn't necessarily need the heart seal to go paladin first.
@Zoran501
3 жыл бұрын
Powerful.
@Zoran501
3 жыл бұрын
Indeed, the fact that Jakob can eventually get Cavalier access from Silas is one reason that I put him straight into Malig in the first video.
@SorenToKeiran-Murasaki
3 жыл бұрын
Also, Amaterasu. Let's not forget how good a super early Amaterasu can be.
@twobirdsonescone
3 жыл бұрын
what is up
@Zoran501
3 жыл бұрын
dog
@miahmagick
3 жыл бұрын
@twobirdsonescone
3 жыл бұрын
happy pride btw
@nikosagantz
3 жыл бұрын
All those level ups with 0 points... Well at the characters reaction are funny.
@maverick5169
3 жыл бұрын
Jakob's "OOHH!" is the best
@gaminggeckos4388
2 жыл бұрын
2:46 …Is there something here that I’m just not seeing? Most of these stats are mediocre at best when compared to the others in the chart. And Elise’s Str growth rate is pretty abysmal.
@brunaolinto560
2 жыл бұрын
What you’re not seeing is that the graphic shows WR Elise is a fast (faster than all average Jakobs, just as fast as MK Felicia and only 1 point slower than WL Felicia) and bulky (just as much bulk as WL Felicia/Silas without Vow of Friendship) unpromoted flier who, at level 10, can help relieve significant pressure in the hardest map of CQ Lunatic earlygame. It shows that, despite having statistical disadvantages and lack of unrestricted 1-2 range, she’s still a worthwhile investment for passing the early game with just her averages. Yes, her Strength is bad, but her damage output will always be backed up by her ability to double (good Speed base & growth), supports with units like Corrin and Arthur (easy to built & give her accuracy to mitigate her low Skill) and cheap forges.
@mysmallnoman
Жыл бұрын
This video did massive dmg to CQ discussions about Elise
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