The Dark council ruled the Sith Empire but Darth Marr ruled the dark council. I have a deep respect for that guy. He deserves his own series!!!
@LMG1792
Жыл бұрын
He really does
@CloneScavengerVulpin8389
Жыл бұрын
I respect him as well.
@kotanovakota
Жыл бұрын
kinda ironic that he dedicated his life to being and helping the sith that he never died as a sith
@vitorpereira9515
Жыл бұрын
@@kotanovakota He died as a badass.
@DM5550Z
Жыл бұрын
His career as a Sith was good but his tendencies made him disavow the Sith code
@superjesse645
Жыл бұрын
Sometimes I feel like The Old Republic was more advanced than any other era in Star Wars.
@theoneguest1
8 ай бұрын
A great period of expansion and vast knowledge
@alexwest2573
Ай бұрын
By far my favorite era, so much room for unique stories
@alwaysplotting2096
Жыл бұрын
Architect: Any ideas for the Dark Council chambers? Vitiate: I'm thinking blood vessels. Architect: Rounded lines forming a tube which flows in one direction. Got it.
@kiyanhakim384
Жыл бұрын
The dark council summed up: Sith Lords pleading to more powerful Sith Lords about why they should help them deal with that other Sith Lord they don't like. And somehow the answer is always: "Just fight it out lol"
@sayvionwashington1939
Жыл бұрын
"You're a damn Sith lord! Just splatter their organs all over the wall like a normal person."
@TheWarmachine375
Жыл бұрын
"Enter the bureaucrats. The true rulers of the Empire. Wait a minute..." - a confused Darth Sidious
@kiyanhakim384
Жыл бұрын
Trust me these guys were definitely not bureaucrats 😂😂
@romancapulus5577
Жыл бұрын
Darth Marr is my favorite He wasn’t a Sith Lord He was a Gigachad
@emzonik8851
Жыл бұрын
He was indeed a chad. You could say, he wasn't a true Sith cos although it's usually the dark side which was the easy way, through his devotion to the Sith Empire he became selfless and ultimately joined the Light Side at the time of his death, becomming a Force ghost.
@bjornhjorvardssen2336
Жыл бұрын
Sith LAWD
@Mediados
Жыл бұрын
@@emzonik8851 I always hate when people say he "wasn't a true Sith", already labeling all Sith as evil and shitty. He was still absolutely on the Dark Side, the reason he ended up as a force ghost is because unlike other Sith, he did not completely disregard the Light. He knew that both sides are needed to understand the Force, but still followed the Sith Code.
@emzonik8851
Жыл бұрын
@@Mediados Following the Dark side is always evil. The Sith are fundamentally evill, they build their power on evil. Marr was a dark side user however his selesness brought him close to the light. At the moment of his death he ultimately chose the will of the Force and rejected the dark. He may have still consider himself a Sith, but he no longer followed the Sith way. Otherwise he wouldn't become a force ghost. It's just the way it works, it has always worked this way. There are no true gray jedi in neither Legends nor the new canon.
@Mediados
Жыл бұрын
@@emzonik8851 He followed the Sith Code all the way through. To pretend like he didn't simply betrays the purpose of a code. It is there to be interpreted, and whoever is strong enough gets a say in how the Sith work. He was not 100% Dark, but nobody ever said Sith need to be. I'd say 70/30 in terms of Dark/Light.
@QA-ut7dd
Жыл бұрын
Darth Marr is one of the greatest and most underrated Sith in Star Wars. He is powerful, charismatic, and serves a vital role in the story of SWTOR. His sense of duty and, for lack of a better word, personal honor, is quite something to behold, especially in a Sith.
@gardenpop
Жыл бұрын
The Sith: Power is all that matters! Also Sith: we must promote anyone with Sith pure blood.
@aster4jaden
Жыл бұрын
I love the Dark Council, especially the original version.
@CloneScavengerVulpin8389
Жыл бұрын
Picture them with their own talk show.
@darthnox7958
Жыл бұрын
@@CloneScavengerVulpin8389 EXACTLY
@CloneScavengerVulpin8389
Жыл бұрын
@@darthnox7958 it would be entertaining.
@darthmephisto4625
Жыл бұрын
Darth Marr, the Defense and Security of the Empire is Paramount in this sphere.
@FinalFantasyArtist24
Жыл бұрын
Loved the Dark Council in The Old Republic! I always enjoy seeing stuff like an evil court of influential figures scheming and bickering amongst themselves. Probably stems from that legendary Death Star conference scene 😆
@Mediados
Жыл бұрын
I mean it comes mainly from the fact that most Sith are egoists by nature. They will always want to get their own ideas through and disregard the others. Compromise is a rare thing.
@zexalbrony4799
Жыл бұрын
3:02-3:10: Now that sounds like a Battle I want to hear more about. 6:11-6:15: Diplomacy!? Who are you and what have you done with the real Sith?
@Mediados
Жыл бұрын
The Sith Code never said anything about being unreasonable or having to be egoistic. Whoever is strong enough to prevail is in the right in the Sith Order.
@kauyanDJ
Жыл бұрын
About your concerns: 1. Well...basically Darth Decimus get us the headstart, but some Darthes decided to treat it like a Monopoly board and... 2. You are a Sith Lord, not some Mandalorian, use Diplomacy.
@ThiccNoodlez
Жыл бұрын
Favorite Dark Councilor? Clearly it has to be Darth Marr, that Giga-Sith among Sith.
@holeeshi9959
Жыл бұрын
Darth Baras the wide, for his foresight in imprisoning the emperor, and his absolute girth.
@TheWarmachine375
Жыл бұрын
Darth Marr is the based Sith of all time. Change my mind.
@levongevorgyan6789
Жыл бұрын
I counter with Darth Jadus, and his democratization of fear.
@thomasleonardis711
Жыл бұрын
I was just looking up the Sith spheres in Influence the day cause I was bored. So this is perfect.
@wanderdragon1075
Жыл бұрын
Darth Marr is just my favorite Sith Lord. Where so many of the Sith are shown to be egotistical maniacs in that era, he held the Empire together through the Emperor’s betrayal and led them well even before that
@Mediados
Жыл бұрын
I always loved that despite having no official leader, everyone knew Darth Marr was the person to listen to. By right he was equal with any other member of the Dark Council, but when he said something it was being done.
@archades115
Жыл бұрын
You forgot to mention that the Sphere of Ancient Knowledge was also responsible for running the Sith Academies of Dromund Kaas and Korriban. As well as finding Force Sensitives to send to these Academies. Obviously my favorite Dark Lord was Darth Marr. But honestly, I rather liked Darth Thanaton too.
@dhaburuk6494
Жыл бұрын
Fair point. If he wasn't intentionally made as an antagonist we might have learned to appreciate him.
@weyjosh5213
Жыл бұрын
darth thanaton??? MY INQUISITOR WITH RED HAIR WANTS TO HAVE A WORD WITH YOU!
@TheWarmachine375
Жыл бұрын
Sith of KOTOR: "We have brought peace, freedom, justice and security to our new empire!" Jedi of KOTOR: "Your new empire?"
@Jedi_Spartan
Жыл бұрын
One fan theory/head canon I've seen is that the Dark Council duels in the Sith Warrior and Inquisitor storylines took place back to back or at least in the same afternoon.
@akale2620
Жыл бұрын
All 8 storyline take place in the same time right?
@Jedi_Spartan
Жыл бұрын
@@akale2620 Roughly but for the Dark Council duels, I'm on about them happening minutes apart with Emperor's Wrath and Kallig passing each other as Wrath leaves and Kallig enters to duel Thanaton.
@akale2620
Жыл бұрын
@@Jedi_Spartan damnit. Warrior and consular should have had some interaction then.
@darthnox7958
Жыл бұрын
@@Jedi_Spartan would have been cool to pass by my sith warrior in the corridor outside the council chambers when I did the inquisitor storyline lmao
@kalibi7276
6 ай бұрын
It didn't. Thanaton was physically in the Dark Council Chambers when the Sith Warrior dueled Darth Baras. Thanaton was already entrenched on Corellia before the Sith Inquisitor arrived. However, the Battle for Corellia was in full swing when the Sith Warrior arrived there. Darth Thanaton declared a Kaggath and was physically on Corellia trying to undermine the Inquisitor. There is no way he could have been engaged in a Kaggath, sabotaging the Inquisitor on Corellia, and then leave Corellia to travel to Korriban. Moreover, the events of the Sith Warrior Chapters 2 and 3 happened before the events of the Sith Inquisitor Chapter 2. So it is likely that while the Sith Inquisitor was hunting ghosts, Thanaton had the time to attend a Dark Council meeting on Korriban.
@vallettapetracyneran8587
Жыл бұрын
Acina was one smart cookie. If Marr had any right hand it would have been her.
@Mediados
Жыл бұрын
Personally I'd still go with Vowrawn. He always stays true to his word, and I have never seen a more cunning Sith Lord.
@ansariansarisharafudeen
5 ай бұрын
Honestly the sphere of technology is probably the most powerful and hardest to achieve so props to acina
@Jedi_Spartan
Жыл бұрын
Just need to complete Voss and Corellia then my Sith Inquisitor will get onto the Dark Council.
@savagedarksider
Жыл бұрын
Just like how Darth Bane redefine the Sith. I will do the same- I present; the order of four, A master to be the embodiment of power, A apprentice to crave power, and two lackeys to be simple assassins.
@hgill257
Жыл бұрын
Count Dooku I presume
@savagedarksider
Жыл бұрын
@@hgill257 Count Dooku was A idealistic fool who just wanted to recreate the old Sith order but with Jedi turn Sith, which would never work.
@Trathien-
Жыл бұрын
@@savagedarksider no
@shaydowsith348
Жыл бұрын
@@levongevorgyan6789 the original Sith were fallen Jedi who interbred with the Pureblood Sith species. Ajunta Pall.
@levongevorgyan6789
Жыл бұрын
@@shaydowsith348 Yeah, them too.
@johnquach8821
Жыл бұрын
Very nice and interesting as a SWTOR player! I wonder what happened to the Sith Empire after SWTOR? I think it collapsed (at least by Darth Ruin's time)?
@kiyanhakim384
Жыл бұрын
My head canon is that they eventually defeated the Republic and then destroyed the empire through infighting, leading the Republic and the jedi to rise again. It would also work with George's history where he said the sith once ruled the entire galaxy but they destroyed themselves through infighting, and eventually the jedi came to help the people trapped between the battles of the sith Lords and helped the galaxy rebuild after the sith destroyed it and themselves. It would also explain why the galaxy was less advanced by the time of Darth Bane.
@nightfall3332
Жыл бұрын
@@kiyanhakim384 The true sith empire never defeated the republic though it was literally canon even before disney's takeover that the republic stood for 25,000 years until Darth Sidious dissolved it with the formation of the galactic empire.
@dhaburuk6494
Жыл бұрын
@@nightfall3332 Only by a loose interpretation. The Republic was hardly consistent across those millennia. In AOTC Palpatine mentions the Republic had lasted a thousand years, so its hard to say what the in-universe technicalities are.
@kiyanhakim384
Жыл бұрын
@@nightfall3332 I also thought about that that's why there is a super small and irrelevant republic left during that time as I didn't want to break the lore. And once the sith start infighting, the republic starts becoming a bigger player again. On earth too, France has stood for over 1000 years but it had moments of strife or moments where half of it was conquered or even where everything was conquered.
@Mediados
Жыл бұрын
The Dark Times follow the Fall of the Old Republic, so guess who wins the war.
@kiyanhakim384
Жыл бұрын
I love it when yall drop swtor videos
@namelesssomebody2557
Жыл бұрын
Darth Imperius is the best.
@shaydowsith348
Жыл бұрын
You forget Darth Occulus. Keep 'em guessing.... (Imperius is LS, Nox is DS, Occulus is Neutral)
@darylsdesigns6679
Жыл бұрын
I wonder which one would win in a fight. The Dark Council in the swtor era or the Jedi High Council in the Clone Wars era?
@johnquach8821
Жыл бұрын
SWTOR Dark Council I believe Clone Wars era Jedi High Council had gone too long without fighting strong opponents.
@DarkAdonisVyers
Жыл бұрын
@@johnquach8821 AKA peace is anathema to power. Peace is a lie.
@savagedarksider
Жыл бұрын
@@DarkAdonisVyers There's only passion (...)
@QA-ut7dd
Жыл бұрын
@John Quach I dunno, man. The Jedi Council, especially depending on the iteration, have some pretty major cards up their sleeve. Yoda is probably still quite a bit more powerful in raw Force ability than even the strongest Council member, Windu's superconducting loop is basically the ultimate trump card against most of the Sith on their Council, Obi-Wan and Plo Koon are among the greatest duelists of their era, and if they're bolstered by Oppo Rancisis' battle meditation, who was arguably more proficient with the ability even than Yoda... that's a pretty imposing combo already.
@dhaburuk6494
Жыл бұрын
@@QA-ut7dd It also matters a great deal if you take a peace-time or war-time Jedi High-Council. The Clone Wars made warriors out of their best one way or another.
@CC--jk6cr
Жыл бұрын
Darth Rectus has to be my favorite. 😊
@BrassPlayr
Жыл бұрын
Darth Rectum
@weyjosh5213
Жыл бұрын
who tf is that
@shaydowsith348
Жыл бұрын
you forget Darth Syphllis (robot-chicken reference - see emperor palpatine in robot chicken video)
@shanenolan5625
Жыл бұрын
Or a theocratic oligarchy.. with the emporer as the head of state/ and spiritual leader , with the dark council. Operating as a college of cardinals. ( pope/ roman Catholic Church) with its various orders and offices
@Mediados
Жыл бұрын
I think the Empire was an effective aristocracy. The Emporor left long ago, and they all knew they had to rule the Empire without him. The only reason no one claimed the Throne is because of infighting.
@willclark7197
Жыл бұрын
Darth Marr is a badass
@nickvinsable3798
Жыл бұрын
🤔 . . . I honestly believe that the sphere that was responsible for the mobilization of supplies is far more important than any other sphere, in its own way. Question: is the Jedi council similar? 12 Jedi, each ruling one sphere & such?
@dhaburuk6494
Жыл бұрын
Most likely, though without the scale of running the Republic so it goes largely unnoticed that certain Council members handle specific fields of administration.
@akale2620
Жыл бұрын
No, the Jedi council didn't have any spheres
@nickvinsable3798
Жыл бұрын
Note: if there is a misunderstanding, I will acknowledge it, @@akale2620. I technically disagree. During the prequels, from _Phantom Menace, The_ to _Revenge of the Sith_ , the Jedi Order did have their spheres, but they stayed within the Jedi Order & not the greater Galactic Republic. What I’m asking is if their authority stretched outward due to extenuating circumstances & such…
@CloneScavengerVulpin8389
Жыл бұрын
The sith love constantly expanding their military and navy.
@ToddAdams1234
Жыл бұрын
That 12th sphere led by Darth Rectus. Rectum hell, it could have killed ‘em 😂
@holeeshi9959
Жыл бұрын
you didn't mention who led the sphere of military offense: the glorious and absolutely brilliant Darth Baras the Wide
@Mediados
Жыл бұрын
Piece is a lie, there is only the whole pie Through pie, I gain fat Through fat, I gain girth Through girth my belt is broken, and my belly is free.
@lerneanlion
Жыл бұрын
Militarily, the Galactic Empire of Darth Sidious might be better than the Sith Empire. But socially, the Sith Empire overseen by the Dark Council is at least a little better than the Galactic Empire.
@Mediados
Жыл бұрын
Absolutely not. The fact that the Sith Empire employed a Dark Lord around almost every corner alone makes them a lot stronger than Sidious' Empire.
@matearas7787
Жыл бұрын
Sith one was vastly superior in military as well as general. Life later on when acina takes over
@crazyviking24
Жыл бұрын
Logistics was the most important.
@darklonermage1
Жыл бұрын
Darth Marr
@JediSentinal
Жыл бұрын
sphere is logistics would get my vote for most important.
@jessefleet2035
Жыл бұрын
Please credit the artists of the images used in your videos. I love the channel, but things like not crediting artists puts me and others off.
@lordofpain3476
Жыл бұрын
Diplomacy is only good until you are ready to attack . The same with treatys , as long as they work out in your favor....... until you are ready to attack .
@DarkAdonisVyers
5 ай бұрын
See that playthrough of Total War 3 Kingdoms where someone decided to (mostly) peacefully conquer the land via rice deals... Note _mostly_
@msalinastb5093
Жыл бұрын
Question, where did you acquire this information/knowledge of the sith’s empire and its spheres? Is it a book or comic, just wondering becuz I would like to look it up and inquire about them myself. If possible let me know what they’re called thanks and may the sith biths be with you lol… may the force be with you, always… ✌🏼
@Mediados
Жыл бұрын
You get most of it by playing SWTOR and reading Old Republic books. The different stories really flesh out the organization of the Sith Empire.
@kauyanDJ
Жыл бұрын
You may check SWTOR's Codex entries.
@wintersking4290
Жыл бұрын
My favorite is myself as Kallig (Darth Imperius/Nox/Occlus)
@ethanlackey8048
Жыл бұрын
Sith armies are so cool
@samstupakevich5908
9 ай бұрын
Darth Jadus was the the council member in charge of Imperial Intelligence
@gcanaday1
2 ай бұрын
What a convoluted cluster.
@jimmysmith2249
Жыл бұрын
Darth Rectus? He hardly knew us!
@jackieanderson9408
Жыл бұрын
This was sweet 👍
@jakethornton4856
Жыл бұрын
I was waiting to find out what sith had to degrade themselves by being in charge of stuff like agriculture and civil services
@DarkAdonisVyers
Жыл бұрын
Behold the dark side of cooking. Seriously, in Venus Blood Frontier, a dialogue option choosing between Imperial food and the local food is, for some reason, a moral choice (dark side points, if you choose Imperial food; light side, if you choose local food). Also, there's that line in Dies irae that a burger and fries isn't the best for you, but it's quick and easy and thus more accessible than the health nut stuff. Combine that with the fact that McDonald's burgers don't rot easily, and how is that _not_ the dark side of the culinary Force?
@jakethornton4856
Жыл бұрын
@@DarkAdonisVyers Isn't Dies Irae that anime with the bad nazies? I just have to clarify they are bad because of Speedwagon. its been so long since i watched it
@DarkAdonisVyers
Жыл бұрын
@@jakethornton4856 "Speedwagon". What?
@shaydowsith348
Жыл бұрын
That would be the one in charge of logistics.
@dangi6516
10 ай бұрын
It may not be a very sith position, but logistics are important and as Darth Vowrawn himself said "soldiers must be fed after all"
@Degenevesting
Жыл бұрын
God f**king dammit how hard is it to get a godamn old republic era sith storyline? Why?! They’re the single most awesome “bad guy faction” in all of pop culture, with thousands and thousands of years of lore. I just want a Sith centred story, from before the rule of two. Even if it’s Darth Bane and the namby pamby Brotherhood of Darkness.
@Furonanator139
Жыл бұрын
Soooooooo anyone else want a game of thrones style (not the ending) series about the old sith empire?
@jeremyleonjonas7657
Жыл бұрын
"Light side sympathizers are hunted down"... *Laughs in Lide Side Wrath of the Empire, who first betrayed the sith to the jedi while still on Korriban*
@Mediados
Жыл бұрын
I always play a Dark Sider with honor, meaning I am fully loyal to the Empire but will not be an ass. But fuck Dark Jaesa.
@jeremyleonjonas7657
Жыл бұрын
@@Mediados fair enough xD I played a full on dark side Inquisitor and found it quite boring 90% of the time. My main is a LS sith warrior and I've had a great time with that char xD I played more pro-imperial rather then pro-sith.
@Mediados
Жыл бұрын
@@jeremyleonjonas7657 I mean many Sith situations basically give you the options "I will use this situation to further my goals and strengthen the Empire" or "Fuck all of you, I want kill."
@jeremyleonjonas7657
Жыл бұрын
@@Mediados jep. Tho being more diplomatic and honorable as the jedi you meet and confusing the force out of them is also quite funny xD
@Mediados
Жыл бұрын
@@jeremyleonjonas7657 A certain ambush comes to mind. Truly one of the best moments.
@michaelandreipalon359
Жыл бұрын
A good thing spheres can be crossed like lines, while pyramids can collapse over time.
@chrismckee3415
9 ай бұрын
My Top 3 dark council members is Darth Nox Darth Marr and finally Darth Vowrawn
@MrChristophSteininge
Ай бұрын
There are versions of the game where Vowrawn is emperor. I am not entirely sure why this is and what parameters lead to it.
@darylsdesigns6679
Жыл бұрын
Two there should be. No more, no less. One to embody the power, the other to crave it.
@Mediados
Жыл бұрын
Yeah, that's how the Sith almost died. Pure egoism is what turned the Order into a bad joke of it's former glory.
@AdamWright-hk5ym
3 ай бұрын
After the rule of 2. It will be the rule of 1.
@goldeagle6431
Жыл бұрын
The Senate ruled the Empire State with care.
@danielferrieri7434
Жыл бұрын
Video Idea: Why Obi Wan is the Best Jedi in Star Wars
@dhaburuk6494
Жыл бұрын
You may find something similar among older Geetsly's videos.
@mernzerek
Жыл бұрын
interesting, I find similarities in the deaths of obi wan and darth marr... the best jedi and the best sith to me
@akale2620
Жыл бұрын
But he's not. Just an overrated plot armored goon
@TnD12754
Жыл бұрын
Yeah these days were cool. But The Rule Of Two is the only way to survive as an order. Had the ancient Sith species survived perhaps keeping the old ways would have worked but humans are vile, vengeful, traitorous monsters.
@Mediados
Жыл бұрын
The Rule of Two ruined the Sith culture. They were once a mighty Empire, with thousands of members being in service of the Dark Side. Now there are a few shattered factions thanks to Bane's egoism.
@Mediados
Жыл бұрын
@@TnD12754 A fact that was about to change into a strong sense of unity until Bane decided to nope out.
@Mediados
Жыл бұрын
@@TnD12754 Even if the Sith lost, it's not the end of the Empire. If they are good at one thing, it's coming back from defeat. But my perspective of the Dark Side also implies that there is no "correct" way to interpret the Code, so I think our opinions are both right.
@HypnoBrix
Жыл бұрын
Great video
@dantejones1480
Жыл бұрын
This is Lawful Evil, the Spheres serve as the symbol of how to evil government right.
@matearas7787
Жыл бұрын
Vitiates empire couldve been argued to be evil but not acinas
@HypnoBrix
Жыл бұрын
You are my favorite KZitemr
@alphabond1116
Жыл бұрын
Seems strange for the Sith, who are build on a philosophy of individual strength and competition, to build a bureaucratic system where spheres may have to cooperate together to succeed. Just seems like these spheres would be doomed to butt heads eventually. No wonder it was later reduced. Note: Never played the Old Republic games (yet).
@Valkyraw
6 ай бұрын
The reason it worked was for the Emperor himself. Yes there was competition between the Sith, even at that time. But no one questioned the rule of the Emperor. Those who did perished the next day. Vitiate was so powerful, when he heard that half of the Dark Council, the most powerful sith in the empire after the emperor himself, planned to kill him, he summoned them the next day and killed all 12 Dark Counciler, like they were insects. Competition was normal and it was even encouraged, but no one could question the Emperor or compete with him. That was a basic rule which almost all followed and those who didnt died not long after. The Emperor Vitiate had unimaginable power due to his Ritual on Nathema.
@shanenolan5625
Жыл бұрын
Cheers great lore
@hgill257
Жыл бұрын
“Our modern ministries” Me:….who’s WE
@apathyreview3964
Жыл бұрын
Shredder was a sith.
@joshbull623
7 ай бұрын
I hated the sphere simply because those forms of government annoy me due to their efficiency. The people in the Republic had it right, if laws must be passed upon the people, let it be only through a delegation of over 2,000 people trying to agree on things. Bureaucracy is the key to any successful government not drastically overnight stealing power, it can't get anything done, but it is safe. Having 5 or 12 people trying to think of new ways to oppress and seize power, well that is just different context and 12 Angry Men the movie which was 1h35 minutes. 1h35 is what you have to stop laws and regulations that could put you in chains, no thanks.
@shortfilmsstudios1739
Жыл бұрын
Hey
@aloysiuskalligunderratedsi8861
Жыл бұрын
Darth Nox
@RyansDad947
Жыл бұрын
Vowrawn - Vow - raw - n not Varon
@Creeperinblue
Жыл бұрын
yo who's this new narrator ?
@shaydowsith348
Жыл бұрын
only one criticism. Pronounciation. Ilum is pronounced ill-um, not eye-lum. Ah-DEE-gun crystals, not ah-DYE-gun crystals.
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