Gabrielle Glaser, author of "Her Best-Kept Secret," offers insights from her Atlantic piece about the failings of the famous support group, Alcoholics Anonymous (AA), and the truth about mainstream alcohol treatment in the U.S. and how it pales in comparison to Finland's science-based medical interventions. In this video, you'll learn about the very low success rates and thus very high failure rates of Alcoholics Anonymous and mainstream AA-based and abstinence-based rehab centers. Glaser provides compelling statistics in the U.S. and Finland as well as quotes from addiction professionals about AA and alcohol.
@javierriosgarcia5446
Жыл бұрын
Let’s all move to Finland!😅 research was not too credible and your resources lacked credibility.
@matthart9460
Жыл бұрын
Really wish you were an alcoholic Gabrielle.
@olivierbrunelle672
Жыл бұрын
Now I don’t know about you guys but I tried to control my drinking through multiple mischief reductions program wich are common every where with BT combine with medication. Never saw it work for any alcoholic lol. When I was relapsing no one in AA told me to do more meetings. They told me to do the work.
@Adrian-yi8fl
11 ай бұрын
@@javierriosgarcia5446the research was not too Credible? Are you joking? It was very credible and it works quite well. Classic conditioning and operant conditioning are widely accepted. Neurotransmitters are real. Unlike Bill W, Dr. Sinclair used actual science to come up with a solution instead of just pulling one out of his butt.
@Paul-vo7ej
9 ай бұрын
Bill Wilson did not actually sober up in behavior. Bill was deified for getting dry and remaining in an alcoholic relationship with Lois and secretary. He stated publicly that he was cured by lsd treatment with DOCTOR Timothy Leary. Aa members convinced him that revenue was more important than honesty, like most modern religions/ cults.
@Michael-ws7fi
Жыл бұрын
I found the rooms of AA while I was in rehab. I wanted to stay in rehab forever because I was scared I would relapse if I left. Strangely enough, my friends in AA encouraged me to leave rehab as soon as I could and just stay in alcoholics anonymous and just work the steps. I took their advice and moved out on my own, staying in alcoholics anonymous ever since. I've been sober since July 4th 2020, and have found a new life so awesome I couldn't have imagined it before. I don't know why AA works, and that's fine with me. I was strung out and in and out of shelters before this program and now I am sober and my career is in full flight. So glad those people found me and were willing to help. Much love ❤️😊👍
@murphmurph2124
Жыл бұрын
AA does not work! The only thing that works is you not drinking.
@gospelslang9027
Жыл бұрын
Same thing is happening with me bro. My whole life is changing so fast, I almost feel guilty. What outsiders like this speaker don't get is that the crux of the programs success is the spiritual connectedness that is necessary for AA to work. Those who truly work the program that success rate is 100%. Those that do not and are not willing to believe in a higher power of their own understanding (not mine, or his, or hers) will never find success in AA. It works if u work it. It doesn't if you don't That's what is not communicated. She cannot measure and give us factual data of a person's commitment to a program. Taking people's word at face value is not an accurate depiction of AA's efficacy
@ola3100
Жыл бұрын
AA program is created by Alistair Crowley the anti christ..the first three steps are a soul trap. The AA symbols come from a cult called thelematic cult. The triangle in a circle is for conjuring demons. Bill Wilson who wrote the big book is known for witchcraft using Ouija boards. Spook sessions with his wife
@MegaLaMoto
Жыл бұрын
WELL SAID
@MegaLaMoto
Жыл бұрын
@@ShannonFreng don't see your comment posted for some reason. oginial comment was to this OP @Michael-ws7fi Be well Shannon.
@comadre54
2 ай бұрын
I am currently celebrating-16 years clean and sober thanks to A.A and the twelve steps and 12 traditions. Once I became ready and willing to work on myself I realized how beautiful life is and how to prepare for cravings with a great sponsor and support group. It works it really does. Read preface number two and you’ll see the statistics of this program
@markg.4246
Ай бұрын
@@janellemarierose People love to post percentages about the efficacy of AA, mostly because that's all they have. Zero to very little ACTUAL experience. Nice job Janelle!
@cebruthius
Ай бұрын
Where is the data?
@matshagstrom9839
Ай бұрын
Thank you for sharing your story. I think the speaker has never read the big book. That seems universal for those who bad mouth A.A. I think it would be difficult to read the book then disagree with its principles
@cebruthius
Ай бұрын
@@matshagstrom9839 Cultist excuse number 99: He hasn't read the big book
@adamgorelick3714
25 күн бұрын
I'm afraid not. I was in the A.A. for many years and did it all, the steps twice. I'm neither someone who thinks it's rubbish nor someone who believes in it any longer. Though I was always left with some nagging, unanswered questions whilst in it. Most of all, why no coherent explanation is offered as to what causes alcoholism { or addiction }. Instead one is presented with a belief system. One that worked for Bill Wilson, Dr. Bob, and others because...well, they believed in it. But 'character defects' and a desperate need for God as explanations for addiction is silly for those who don't. Simply put, Alcoholics Anonymous IS a belief system and is wholely dependent upon one buying into it. It indeed 'works if you work it.' But mostly doesn't if you're not a true believer. 'Mostly', because I found the steps useful - though the Christian Biblical literalist underpinnings of this ostensibly 'not religious, but spiritual programme', more alienating. For myself, a far more plausible, proven, and reality-based explanation for addiction turned out to be, not the world's only 'disease' requiring belief in it, but trauma. Something with masses of clinical data behind it and a variety of modalities for addressing it. Retired Canadian physician Dr. Gabor Mate' has proven an invaluable resource for medical as well as spiritually grounded and compassionate books and lectures. Which also address the connection between trauma and mental and physical health issues - the former, all too common among alcoholics and addicts. But if A.A. is the right thing for someone, more power to them. It's free, ubiquitous, and can be a great support system. But everyone who has criticism of it isn't simple clueless. Absolutism is a potential pitfall of every belief system - 'This is unassailable and nothing else of value exists.' Edit : To be fair, in 1935 no one understood anything about trauma. Wilson and other founders were just going by something that indeed worked for them.
@Tierneycristian
2 ай бұрын
I started drinking alcohol years ago as a teenage, got addicted to alcohol for so many years. Spent my whole life fighting alcohol addiction. I suffered severe depression and mental disorder, was actually diagnosed with cptsd. Not until my wife recommended me to psilocybin mushrooms treatment. Psilocybin treatment saved my life honestly. 8 years totally clean. Much respect to mother nature the great magic shrooms.
@MuratBasar-jm9lc
2 ай бұрын
Thanks for sharing your story. That's rough I sympathize. Save your health save your mind. Life is better without heroin, cocaine, alcohol and cigarettes. And you have more money in your pocket. God bless everyone who has rejected the devils intentions to be addicted to alcohol and cigarettes etc which can cause so much damage to health. We all need a reset.
@Caroljoyce-mp8sk
2 ай бұрын
YES very sure of Dr.alishrooms. I have the same experience with anxiety, depression, PTSD and addiction and Mushrooms definitely made a huge huge difference to why am clean today.
@LucasRobert-ns3nj
2 ай бұрын
How do I reach out to him? Is he on insta
@MarcWilliams-dz7ik
2 ай бұрын
Yes he's Dr.alishrooms.Shrooms to me is a natrual healer. I know a guy who has used mushrooms in the same way and they have really helped him. mah dudes have safe trips all.
@ChristopherEric-fr8im
2 ай бұрын
I was horrifically depressed since childhood. It was relentless. I assumed it would ultimately end me somehow. About twelve years ago I randomly accepted the offer from a friend of a few doses of mushrooms. I did them two consecutive nights alone. First night was pretty mild. The second night? Wow. I saw my depression from every angle, realized much. Next day: depression totally gone. Never came back, never coming back. It's like it's a forest far away I can remember, and could probably find again with enough effort, but it has zero impact on anything in my life or mind. They honestly saved my life and improved it immensely. I never did them again, either. I wish there was a good, organized way to administer them to people who would benefit from them.
@ChrisSmith-nw7be
6 ай бұрын
Ive been sober in AA for over 25 years, For a real Alcoholic there is no such thing as Moderation.....Total Abstainance and AA works
@Jerid58
3 ай бұрын
It’s a better life for sure.
@EdwardHaas-iz3mi
3 ай бұрын
AA, and Al-Anon save my family.
@MrFmontero
2 ай бұрын
Exactly @ChrisSmith-nw7be this video is Bullshit.
@dmb107
2 ай бұрын
It works for many who have tried it, and it doesn't work if you haven't tried it. Many should give it a try...it's free...
@markg.4246
Ай бұрын
@@dmb107 The "many" don't want to hear that there is an effort involved, or that "SELF" is the root problem, or that they will discover, and have to accept the truth about themselves. They just want to find out how "not to drink". As soon as the words "higher power", or "spiritual condition", or horror of horror's "god" is mentioned, they are on a dead run for the exits! Finally safe in their cars, they can now go home to their broken families, poor health, loss of job and income, legal issues with lawyer fees that they can't pay, detox, rehabs, incarceration, and the real possibility of death. They'll then say, Ya, I know my life is phucked up, but I can't stand any of that "god" stuff. If we weren't talking about a fatal condition, it would be absolutely hilarious!
@KScan-cj5wi
Жыл бұрын
Its this simple............a non alcoholic woman writes a book about alcoholism with no real life experience of being an alcoholic, well you are never going to truly understand alcoholism when that is all you can bring to the table........The reason why AA works is because one alcoholic can readily identify with another in a heart beat ...this is something this woman could never be able to grasp no matter how many graphs and statistics she could devour....In fact she is doing a dis service to potential newcomers....she is clueless.
@KScan-cj5wi
Жыл бұрын
I have just discovered she was also served a cease and desist order.........good..silly girl.
@royharper2003
Жыл бұрын
AA doesn'ty work for everybody. Every meeting I ever went to made me want to get drunk
@KScan-cj5wi
Жыл бұрын
@@royharper2003 Your not despite enough yet then, its that simple.
@KScan-cj5wi
Жыл бұрын
desparate
@royharper2003
Жыл бұрын
@@KScan-cj5wi I'm soberee, no thanks to AA
@kazkazimierz1742
Жыл бұрын
I have been in AA since 1981. I don't know if it saved my life, but it is where I learned that the answer to my drinking problem was to not drink.
@royharper2003
Жыл бұрын
it took you going to AA to figure that out ??
@kazkazimierz1742
Жыл бұрын
@@royharper2003 Yup. I guess I'm a bit slow.
@fittyleben7571
Жыл бұрын
Then you missed the boat buddy. The whole point off AA is to help you find God. Don’t believe me? Read the chapter we agnostics and it’ll explicitly tell you exactly what I just told you.
@kazkazimierz1742
Жыл бұрын
@@fittyleben7571 I didn't miss the boat. I just got on a different boat than you.
@mikekemsley1531
Жыл бұрын
@@fittyleben7571 Somebody missed the boat but it wasn't kazkaz. You don't find God, you find out that you aren't God. Try reading it again with an open mind.
@brakk727
Жыл бұрын
Usually when people “fail” they don’t come back to meetings. No one is referring people to go try something else, we aren’t doctors. I work a program that works if I work it. Some people don’t get it, don’t know why, they just don’t. I can’t help them. The number of success are low because a lot of people come in and don’t want to work the program. Some are forced to go through the courts and some just don’t want to do the work. I can’t get you sober, you have to do the work, the same work I did. BTW this is a free program, no one is getting paid. If you don’t like it, go drop $30k on rehab and they will send you to AA when you get out.
@markc5960
Жыл бұрын
Or maybe they just don't see things the same way, which is not the same as not getting it.
@markc5960
Жыл бұрын
It works if you work it sounds like it could be applied to anything, but you seem to be implying it's especially true for AA. If it's not and it's just people not doing the work then it doesn't matter what program anyways. But if it's specific to AA then why? Is it possible some people will work another program but not AA, and that program also works if you work it?
@GenXCynik
11 ай бұрын
@@markc5960 If someone finds another way to stay sober, the AA position is, “our hats are off to [them]”. No one is forced into anything in AA. It’s a program for people who want it, not those who need it. Incidentally, since the advent of the AA program, there has been a revolution in recoveries. Prior to AA, the outlook for recovery from alcohol addicted people was very grim. The book “Alcoholics Anonymous”, written in 1939 by a group of recovering drunks, none of whom had been sober more than 4 years, has been the single most significant development in the history of alcohol addiction and is still being used to help people of all walks of life around the world escape the insanity of alcohol addiction. No matter what one thinks about AA it is hard to deny its significance to the birth and growth of the recovery industry.
@gzup6728
10 ай бұрын
5 percent of the people who do the work in aa stay sober... maybe it's time to work something different, something that works?!
@danielle92118
7 ай бұрын
Sadly, many of the programs she mentions have come and gone over the last 50 years that I've been around.
@cathy7382
Жыл бұрын
I did attend a few AA meetings but it wasn't what kept me from drinking I am over 71/2 yrs sober, I had just reduced my consumption of alcohol and had decided I didn't want drinking in my life I give the credit to my faith in Jesus for helping me and keeping me from relapse
@TC.._
11 ай бұрын
Nice. Me too.
@danielle92118
7 ай бұрын
Classic definition of a problem drinker
@douglasmatthews2334
6 ай бұрын
I'm glad you got it with just jesus. apparently jesus didn't see fit for me to get sober with just him so it took AA for me.
@jordanlineger-nd5gz
6 ай бұрын
There is a good chance you are not an alcoholic , you may have had real problems with alcohol just not an alcoholic.
@stevenc6705
Ай бұрын
There’s probably a good chance you’re not an alcoholic then. Just a heavy drinker that wanted or needed to moderate or choose to quit. A real alcoholic can’t choose. They have to or die.
@DarthTwilight
8 күн бұрын
Yeah, I just got browbeat by guy at church when I told him that one other guy at church told me to go to celebrate recovery. I've been through rehab, I've been to celebrate recovery, and they just don't work for me. Anytime I speak against the paradigm, I get browbeat. It's like I'm asking for a fork, and somebody is handing me a kayak paddle, then sternly rebuking me for not eating with it. 12-step programs just don't work for the majority of us. That much is certain. When she said that, I actually had a bit of a cathartic chuckle, because she is right
@Chris-ng9vz
Жыл бұрын
I'm a serious chronic alcoholic and aa works. 40 years on that poison. Now I don't think of drinking a day at a time
@danielle92118
7 ай бұрын
Yep
@Vashti0825
2 ай бұрын
I stopped thinking about alcohol the day I made the decision to go to rehab. The program helped me tremendously. Today i find it to be a giant social circle of gossip and judgment and I still don't think about drinking.
@stevenc6705
Ай бұрын
That’s the power of God
@visam28
Жыл бұрын
I never resonated with AA and I really tried to.
@gospelslang9027
Жыл бұрын
Yeah, people who aren't willing to believe in a higher power of their own understanding usually don't resonate with the program.
@royharper2003
Жыл бұрын
@@gospelslang9027 or maybe they just see AA as a bunch of BS like I did
@gospelslang9027
Жыл бұрын
@@royharper2003 yeah, maybe
@MegaLaMoto
Жыл бұрын
@@royharper2003 peole see what they want to see. You're living proof. Unless you're dead. Then you're even better proof.
@visam28
Жыл бұрын
@@gospelslang9027 Your comment establishes my point. I love God and always believed.
@ndnd2023
Ай бұрын
In the UK rehab is entirely privatised and not available as free health care, even though addiction is now seen as a health issue. So for most AA etc is the only source of recovery based activities. Also, cant deny that speaking to another alcoholic who has recovered is hugely inspiring to another dying alcoholic.
@ChristopherWrenII
8 ай бұрын
Remember AA's called a PROGRAM, like a computer program if you follow the suggestions you WILL get the desired outcome. HONESTY, OPEN-MINDED & WILLINGNESS is just part of that program, I'm now 7 years Sober, I tried everything and only when I made a decision to follow the SUGGESTED PROGRAM, I got the desired outcome. All love & peace❤✌️
@imhome417
7 ай бұрын
Not everyone who works all 12 steps stay sober. The bigbook doesn't even claim 100% success rate. You should know this with 7 years sober. The 12 steps are highly successful foe those who work them hard and consistently. There is no guarantee offered by Bill or the bigbook
@archiebf4524
5 ай бұрын
That's just nonsense though isn't it, it's not possible for you to know what someone is or is not putting in to the program. I put very little tbh and stayed sober for 5 years, 2 of which I did on my own before being able to consume like a "normal" person. On the flipside I've seen people really really try and put there all in and most of them are dead now. AAs fundamental flaws (other than the religious nonsense) are that it fails to recognise that addiction exists on a spectrum, and that its based on an ideological contradiction of selflessness while working an incredibly selfish program. You might get clean but you'll stay sick
@LC-dx1xj
3 ай бұрын
They’re not open-minded. They want you closed-minded while purporting themselves to be the opposite. “Open-minded” in AA = only being open-minded towards accepting the program, and closed off towards any other path towards recovery. Any disagreement with what would work best in your personal situation is met with dissent if it doesn’t 100% adhere to the program. edit: All that being said, I’m glad that it was what worked for you. I’m not being disingenuous, 7 years is amazing and you should be proud.
@markg.4246
Ай бұрын
@@LC-dx1xj I've been attending meetings for more than 30 years, and no one has ever said, "Don't seek other paths". Why? Because we understand the "terrible beating administered by alcohol". It would be foolish to discourage anyone from seeking recovery, and we should support that 100%.
@kennithminnich
Жыл бұрын
There are many different ways to get sober. AA worked for me. I was an alcoholic for many years when i joined. I recently celebrated 10 years of continuous sobriety. Dont listen to the naysayers.
@markc5960
Жыл бұрын
You mean naysayers about AA? It seems plenty accept being a naysayer if it's about other programs, as in those in AA saying it's the only thing that works.
@paulpazsak3665
Жыл бұрын
@@markc5960 doctors and science will never be able to FIX addiction Like she is trying to claim. U can't walk in someone's shoes if u never walked it. Science wont help Only thing thats helped is God, the miracle i received when fhe obsession was lifted and the 12 steps. Taking God out of the rooms will be a big mistake for the future of AA. This is basically trying to prove people wrong because its 80yrs old. Its insane that the world we live in is going backwards. There is so much medical malpractice nowadays. Ppl in the 1930s had more wisdom than the sciencetism religion finatics due today
@akatgif
9 ай бұрын
@@markc5960misguided and misrepresentation of the truth
@akatgif
9 ай бұрын
12 years sober thanks 🙏🏾
@someperson4819
9 ай бұрын
Sober for ten years. I don't think AA worked. They convinced you that you can never drink moderately. The video even mentions treatments that can make that happen. AA is just a crutch that doesn't heal the actual problem.
@cg9616
11 ай бұрын
Lots of ways to get sober. Do what works for you. AA worked for me and I love my life. The rooms are there for anyone who thinks they might have a problem with alcohol- if it’s not for you that’s fine. The door swings both ways
@alfonzomata3222
10 ай бұрын
You got that right💯
@markg.4246
5 ай бұрын
"Lots of ways to get sober". Unfortunately, most of them involve death. Regardless of the path, there is one common, and absolutely crucial aspect. ...and THAT is to "LIVE DIFFERENTLY"! I mean literally how you move your feet. We have a saying in sobriety, "Bring the body, and the mind will follow". If a person is constantly missing class, they probably won't do well on tests. If a person only works 20 hours a week, should they expect a check for 40 hours? Hell NO! Sobriety is no different. It requires "showing up". Simple as that!
@1DaTJo
9 ай бұрын
“Take what you want and leave the rest.” That’s what I learned in AA. It’s an amazing program. If you don’t believe in God, it can stand for Good Orderly Direction. There are no dues or fees and no one is in charge. It’s the purest form of democracy I’ve ever encountered. If you don’t like it, don’t go. But don’t put it down for the people it does help.
@mariaquiet6211
9 ай бұрын
I was told that saying is something selfish people say and that it's practically a death sentence. Addicts. Talking about god. It goes to their heads sometimes.
@johnmccarthy7195
3 ай бұрын
I agree with you but I see how society is behaving now at the polarization and that's directly related to giving up on critical thinking and skepticism and that is something that AA discourages. This utter nonsense that you have to have a God to make sure that your life has any f****** values ridiculous.
@travelsfromdoodah949
Жыл бұрын
I was raised by my grandparents, who were recovering alcoholics, I've had it instilled in me my whole life..that being said I have 7 dui's been through treatment 9 times..what I've personally noticed is even if someone gets sober through the program , their basic personally and behavior doesn't. I'm sober today. I don't count my sober day's. I don't rehash my past or make amends. And I believe I'm the only one in control of my destiny. A.A has worked for alot of people, but there is a few of us ..a minority that has to seek out our own way. I'm one of those people. My motto live every day like it's your last..and I don't need to be drunk to have an adventure.
@kimsyracuse-uw8oj
Жыл бұрын
Well said done I bend sober it's going to be 4 years December 31,2023 I am happy person without alcohol and weed ,I proud of you saying that that what I'do😊❤❤🎉🎉🎉our own way of healing our self ❤️ 😊
@Tk-di5vd
10 ай бұрын
I lasted 3 years on this method, but I hope it works for you.
@danielle92118
7 ай бұрын
Again, not for everyone. However, when an individual who fails to mature very often will fail to stay sober.
@kenken33333
6 ай бұрын
"If you sober up a horse thief...you've just got a sober horse thief". Anyone can get sober. I got sober every monday (or tuesday if monday was a holiday) for 20+ years. Working and INTERNALYZING the steps made changes to both my personality and my behaviors. I had to leave my drinking buddies and selfish thinking and behaviors behind in order to make any real progress in the program. The program is simple but is very hard to work 100 percent of the time. I've been sober for 24 years and have watched hundreds of people cycle in and out of AA. I suspect most of them failed to completely understand the steps and failed to attempt to work them in their everyday lives. The AA program has changed how I see the world and how I think the world sees me, and THAT has made all the difference in my long term sobriety.
@stevenc6705
Ай бұрын
I tried that and made a miserable white knuckle 6 years. Went back out. Picked up where I left off. In AA now and sober and very happy life sober 5 years. Day at a time.
@isai4130
11 ай бұрын
She got the fellowship mixed with the program, the people staying sober have done all 12 steps and sponsor people through the 12 steps. Going to a meetings doesnt mean your doing the program ... thats just a meeting.
@Adrian-yi8fl
11 ай бұрын
Yep AA works for 100% of the people it works for. Of course that's only about 5% of the people who try it, but who cares right?
@Fo-Flats
9 ай бұрын
That's BS. Why tell people to go to a meeting?
@isai4130
8 ай бұрын
@@Fo-Flats to hopefully meet someone that will sponsor you, thats it. its not to vent or get hugs.
@catboy7952
8 ай бұрын
Go to meetings to help the newcomer. Period.
@brakhayhurst9214
7 ай бұрын
Facts
@justinrossen-mu3wf
7 ай бұрын
There is no solution in this message, just defamation of one that has saved countless lives.
@trentkenzler8478
Жыл бұрын
AA does not endorse rehab. AA is not synonymous with rehab. In fact, most AA old-timers will tell you rehab is a waste of money. If AA doesn't work for you, or you don't want to go to AA, then don't. Find the cure for whatever ails you. From the big book of AA: "If a man can drink like a gentleman, our hats are off to him." This video is a huge mis-characterization of AA.
@samtank2392
Жыл бұрын
I agree man! My experience was that I was drinking every day and smoking coke. I did not go to rehab or detox ( not suggesting it, just my story) Just hit the ground running with the AA steps with a sponsor and my desire for boose, coke you name it has been lifted. Sorry scientist it's going to he hard to explain that one. Why do I have to be a science experiment! In the early days of alcoholics anonymous we had a 75% success rate on the first time threw the steps and the rest got it in some time afterwards. My problem is not alcohol My solution is Alcohol (and drugs) I spent 12 years in therapy (all different types) and it never solved the problem!
@doctorbob8220
Жыл бұрын
No it's right on. I say if one wants to be in a cult, my hats off to you.
@KScan-cj5wi
Жыл бұрын
@@doctorbob8220 Doc its not a cult the door swings both ways!
@Stoat91
Жыл бұрын
AA is a 'Religion'.It has a Doctrine(Big Book+ 12&12 & Constitution (Steps & Traditions). Communism & National Socialism are Religions to.Fuck AA.
@greatest7391
Жыл бұрын
@@KScan-cj5wi Like the majority of cults
@cynthiaguarino2016
Жыл бұрын
I have been sober for 26 years. I did try cognitive behavioral training which failed and my drinking escalated. Out of desperation I agreed to take antibuse, but the cravings were stronger and I figured out a way to drink while taking it. I did go to rehab, but didn't stay the entire time. When I discovered AA it was when all hope was lost and I had nothing left to lose. It was the first time that I had met people who actually understood what it felt like to be an alcoholic. That made a huge difference. I wasn't concerned about anything else but learning how to live without drinking and being accountable. It does work if you want it to.
@stubdo16
Жыл бұрын
❤
@tomd6704
11 ай бұрын
I could never believe that cbt works for more than 9 percent of people who try it. There is no way. She said they tell you stuff like instead of drinking alcohol, walk your dog. And she says we are supposed to trust their quallifications?
@baeconater8
Жыл бұрын
Mmmmm idk the AA program has its flaws but this just sounds like BS. This person was never an addict clearly lol
@JB123-BOOMBOOM
5 ай бұрын
Even tho she's not an addict or alcoholic she's pretty spot on. I entered AA when I was in junior high after going to drug rehab. I sobered up for 8 yrs but could stay sober for very long through out my life because AA (the 12 steps) bypass original and ongoing life traumas. Also My dad entered AA after me and had 35 yrs of "sobriety" but had massive trauma from life, he watched his mom, my grandmother die in a house fire @ 9 yrs old and two yrs later his dad died in a car accident from a drunk driver, a few yrs later his brother committed suicide. The twelve steps like for sooo many myself included keeps people stuck in the trauma, it's way outdated. It bypasses the layers and layers of tauma, pain and suffering stored in the body and the unconscious mind witch controls 80% of how we live and what we do.I'm 55 yrs young now married with four children and had to unpack why a ton of people do not heal and become whole healthy person. Basically the 12 steps to me now are odd and even a bit suspect. The 4th step has you do a personal inventory and that's about the extent of healing from massive life's pain and traumas???!!! I feel AA and the 12 steps even kills people, one being my dad, because he never got the he needed he stayed super sick and ended up dying in a sexual addiction/assault near 80 yrs old all because he could claim 35 yrs of "sobriety" and stay secretly sick. I healed through psychedelics just like one of the founders of AA but AA doesn't talk about that. And also childhood regression, breathwork therapy, etc., etc. and alot of reading and studying current information of how to heal and unpack and release trauma. And basically the healing benefits of psychedelics got covered up. But now healing centers and retreats are on the rise to assist people to become whole and not rely on the 12 steps for the rest of their lives!❤❤❤
@JB123-BOOMBOOM
5 ай бұрын
Could NOT stay sober(typo)🤦♂️😊
@JB123-BOOMBOOM
5 ай бұрын
"Help he needed", nother typo
@josephbarrett8287
4 ай бұрын
AA has really helped me. I started going to AA , when I was 24 years old. I had some long term sobriety, but returned to drinking and my problems got bigger. I am 61yo now and 15 years sober. AA really helps. I actually enjoy going to meetings. I’m not saying that AA is the most effective way to get sober, but I am saying that it has really helped me. I think AA can help one live sober, if that’s what they want to do. I don’t think AA is good at making people want to be sober.
@MightyAmygdala
25 күн бұрын
It doesn't work for the people who want it, it doesn't work for the people who need it. It works for the people who work the program.
@fiwalker6690
Жыл бұрын
I questioned this exact thinking in Salvation Army 12 Step AA rehab I went to in 2019 but obviously got shut down , thank you for posting this and your channel it keeps me sane ❤️🙏🇳🇿🇳🇿
@ChiChaRonn77
6 ай бұрын
As a chronic Alcoholic, I tried it all for over 15 yrs from cushy fancy rehabs with chefs and top paid certified professionals to a homeless shelter that had AA meetings, to jails to the street. I say that to say this. I tried it all for 15yrs. Destroying my life. Nothing had worked for me until I actually put some work into the suggestions that were given to me in the rooms of AA. Clean and sober now for a few years and my life has been better than ever before. People are lazy and yes we all will try to find it easier softer way who wants to put in work into anything worthwhile. People run from that word God I know I did. It is not a religious program and it does not tell you that AA is the only thing that works. So if you think you're not an alcoholic and you can manage your drinking Go ahead give it a shot pain is a gray motivator. Thank God I found the rooms of AA and for those 12 steps
@carrikellum7128
Жыл бұрын
Speaking for myself here, and I have been to several meetings. AA is the worlds way! If i depended soley on AA I would have never gotten sober. Jesus Christ is the only way!! I cannot tell you how many times I've heard someone in a meeting give God credit lastly. AA is always first. Thats so wrong, God deserves all the praise and Glory!! Oh and I'm not an alcohol or drug attic, I was in my past! God does not want anyone to continually call themselves those things after he brought you out!! I've been redeemed and to God be the glory!!
@thomasbyrne8198
11 ай бұрын
He turned the water into wine amen bro
@honorkiely5633
11 ай бұрын
I totally agree.l have been sober since September 1997.but all the credit goes to Jesus.Our lady of Lourdes & the Angel's without them.l wouldn't be sober.l enjoy my life today.
@itsgoodtobeclean
9 ай бұрын
He turned my wine into water 🤷 since 12/01/95
@mariaquiet6211
9 ай бұрын
This is the problem with people who let "god" go to their heads. They just can't help but degrade others, people they never met, whose stories they don't deserve to hear. They wind up abusing others and they just can't see or care because they think some superhuman force is working through them. You have a sickness.
@timsnipe8960
5 ай бұрын
If the God of your organised religion works for you then fine. But don't expect that any young boys who have been sodomised by Catholic priests to agree.
@pb7133
9 ай бұрын
I quit drinking after heavy drinking for 15 years. I did it on my own. When I was about 90 days sober I walked into AA. Got a sponser and did the 12 steps. I didn’t like the fear mongering you hear. My sponser was a great man and taught me a lot he passed away when I was about 2 years sober. To this day i have not gone to meeting in years (despite what they told me about how I was sure to fail). I give all credit to Jesus. He took that urge from me and I have never looked back. Also active in my church and that helps.
@danielle92118
7 ай бұрын
Happy that worked for you, but will not work for someone who is truly alcoholic. I've known a few over the decades that have been at least drink-free, but few of them find much distance from the rest of what ails them. For me, I'm not willing to gamble my life for ego strokes. And hearing "fear-mongering" is, in my experience over decades, is a matter of the ears we hear with- to paraphrase my Irish grandmother:)
@pb7133
7 ай бұрын
@@danielle92118oh wow so you are saying I was not an “true alcoholic”? You are exactly like the Program you preach. Extra judgy and discredit my success because it is outside of your program. Seems as tho you still have a problem if I don’t say so myself.
@johnmccarthy7195
3 ай бұрын
Do you hear yourself this is nonsense that Jesus help you through it.
@pb7133
3 ай бұрын
He did. Still sober today. 💪
@stevenc6705
Ай бұрын
Sounds like you found step 3.
@TheSpartan1976
10 ай бұрын
When people usually come into AA or NA it’s usually there last choice and nothing else has worked. But when entering the rooms of AA the big book teaches you saying this program is only for the real alcoholics and says if you think you can moderately drink or you don’t think your a alcoholic go out and try other methods but if you try everything else and your life continues to get worse and I mean a lot worse then AA is probably what you need . And then you need to surrender to this program and do everything and I mean everything that your sponsor suggests that you do and it takes a lot of action surrender sponsor steps service spirituality and once your sober you continue to do more work because it’s not about you anymore but helping the next alcoholic helping at home helping out at work helping in the community 🙏🏽❤️
@marksierra3522
6 ай бұрын
Hahah no. REAL alcoholics are FAILED by AA. AA is awful.
@marksierra3522
6 ай бұрын
You're a cult member.
@TheSpartan1976
6 ай бұрын
@@marksierra3522 well I’m clean and sober so yep I’ll take that. I’m a Christian too so that’s another cult and I’m a massive fan of my football 🏉 team so another cult lol 😂 I’m all about the life I live today and the cults that I’m apart of 🙏🏽❤️☝🏾✝️🚫🍺 💉🚫🏉😁
@Homesteader-o8i
5 ай бұрын
@@marksierra3522 I have to say, it's may be a cult but it's not a very good one. No guru getting girls and money. Just service work, bad coffee and stale cookies.....
@johnmccarthy7195
3 ай бұрын
Please explain to me how many other choices individuals have and availability. AA has been around for 90 years so they can head start I think the 12 steps are bogus there's a few things relating to intersection but that's it 6:09
@official_thestateofaustin
Жыл бұрын
AA is separate from rehabs. Who is this person? I wouldn’t doubt she’s trying to sell something. Do more research! This is why one alcoholic talking to another is so vital because people like her think they have the cure to alcoholism without doing proper research. I have seen amazing displays of humanity and love in the rooms, humanity and love I fail to find else where so you’re really trying to argue with that? Good luck. This is why I love the comments section. Most people commenting are saying she’s doesn’t have a full comprehension of what she’s claims. My heart goes out to you lady! ❤
@royharper2003
Жыл бұрын
talking to other alchis never helped me. Everybody drinks for different reasons.
@jkls36912
9 ай бұрын
Agreed 💯
@danielle92118
7 ай бұрын
Not my experience.
@jamescaldon5586
7 ай бұрын
You nailed it!
@ChrisSmith-nw7be
6 ай бұрын
Agreed...I'm 25 years sober in AA. I go to lots of meetings and I sponsor people. I love sobriety.
@coastrange111
8 ай бұрын
Love it when someone who isnt an addict or alcoholic thinks they know what they are talking about.
@edwardnigma9037
7 ай бұрын
Exactly
@davemccall1134
7 ай бұрын
You must feel som😊eone who has been trained and educated in addiction therapy is not more qualified to mentor an alcoholic than a person who is a hardcore AAer. What's your feelings of not using the advice of an Oncologist if you had cancer but to defer to a hospital orderly for the proper treatment of your cancer?
@JJ-qq2so
7 ай бұрын
@davemccall1134 proof is in the actions, ur example is not the same, absolutely the degree will save no one from this, the ideas principles and experience of someone that REALLY lived it will trump all that every single time, in any field, so matter fact yes with the cancer field the student fresh out of school will do NOTHING that the doctor who actually lived it for many years can do
@edwardnigma9037
7 ай бұрын
@@davemccall1134 two totally different extremes
@pearljam_1
3 ай бұрын
@@JJ-qq2sofalse. Personal experience with something has nothing to do with outcomes based on scientific evidence. Just stop.
@lupo3694
Жыл бұрын
Whenever I here stories about AA I just think these people change in one addiction for another. It is a crutch. Nothing wrong with that if it works for you, but still, I want to be in charge of my own destiny, and I just do not believe in a higher power. I couldn't if I tried.
@IAmChadBroseph
Жыл бұрын
Even if what you are saying is true, isn’t the crutch of AA so much better than crippling alcohol addiction.
@rogerconnolly3688
Жыл бұрын
The worst thing I ever heard in AA is a guy who decided that he could experiment again with alcohol and got in his car and drive over his 3 year old son and killed him. This kind of horror is common in alcoholism. Of those who go to rehab, a third are dead within r years and 50% of those die violent deaths. This women talks crap. She is right that AA has a low success rate but so does all the other treatments which are just as useless. The reality is that those who do not die over the long term just end up numbed out on prescription drugs which is all she advocates. My guess is she is an alcoholic and is too weak to do what AA asks.
@kimsyracuse-uw8oj
Жыл бұрын
I do believe in the high power what the mindset then higher power meaning you're higher power is your mindset ,if you're want to stop doing it then you're mindset to do it and you're can use you're higher power to stop it that what I think higher power is mindset to stop 💯 percent think about it 😊
@lupo3694
Жыл бұрын
@@IAmChadBroseph I said "nothing wrong with that" it just wouldn't be for me.
@lupo3694
Жыл бұрын
@@rogerconnolly3688 What are we supposed to take away from this unobjective, highly amotional rant of yours? How does this woman talk crap, and how come the only explaination is she failed in AA? How is she advocating drug use? No argument, only angry projection. Someone critisized something that worked for you and you just go into aggressive defense mode? That is not how adults deal with critisism, that is how angry litte brats deal with it. Your emotional response only proves her point.
@davekraszewski8
Жыл бұрын
AA saved my life when nothing else could. I was drunk for 27 years. I needed to surrender to my higher power before the drinking obsession was lifted. God bless AA!
@RiverTruth
Жыл бұрын
Addiction is a mental Health issue not a spiritual issue. That’s medical malpractice
@citrix123
Жыл бұрын
@@RiverTruthmy drinking problem brought me to the doors of AA and once input down drink i had painful road of realising I have a living problem and eventually again it always came back until I was shown I had a spiritual problem , once I attain to the spiritual issue it rests my living problem and then drink does not even come into the equation anymore , however this is what the alcoholism really is , and AA and it's good members are the only one to date who showed me this as I tried all professional services and they didn't know what to do with me , look it up Carl Jung didn't even know what to do with the alcoholic he was treating and that was Carl Jung , but the guy got sober using a spiritual sober which he wrote later to Carl Jung
@pearljam_1
3 ай бұрын
@@RiverTruth the 5% who do succeed call it god’s work, the other 95% get told they just didn’t follow the program properly. I guess god has a checklist and if you don’t meet it he doesn’t help 😂.
@tracybenson6364
Жыл бұрын
I wonder. Why are you confusing rehab with AA. They are not the same. Rehab is a for-profit business. There are NO DUES OR FEES in AA. AA is not the ONLY path to recovery. However it is arguably the best path available today. IMP addiction is a decease of isolation. There is non judge mental fellowship in AA. I hope those who are reading this will give it a try.
@VAMR-vc7xg
Жыл бұрын
Thanks Tracy, you have made a good point. I got out of rehab a couple of months back and was able to stay sober. Then I relapsed. I blamed it all on AA and my sponsor for not wanting to take me through the steps too quickly. Then she said she thought I wasn't ready yet - she was right. I'm glad I have read this and sobered up now and just contacted my sponsor and will give AA another go. No-one in AA is perfect of course but there are plenty wonderful people all willing to give you support. Everyone's been there and being an alcoholic sucks. I tried everything else, including the Sinclair Method (used in Finland). Nothing worked. And it was all very expensive too.
@johnmccarthy7195
3 ай бұрын
I don't know why people continue to relate making money with an evil intent. After all Bill w way back in the 60s was paid $65,000 a year which is equivalent to half a million dollars today. I don't fault the man for that but let's not put them on a pedestal that we should worship as a saint. I also think that it was unconscionable that on his deathbed his last request was four fingers of bourbon and they didn't give it to him. That sucks!
@billybible4067
10 ай бұрын
I been sober happy and free sense 12/27/1982 works for me, Grace of God, and the fellowship about the alcoholics anonymous
@Meoooweww
11 ай бұрын
AA is an old cult....better therapists out there!
@EyefulImages
2 ай бұрын
In the Alcoholics Anonymous book it speaks very clearly about seeking outside help. A good sponsor will refer people to seek therapy or professional help when necessary, not just go to more meetings. That is ridiculous. The truth is for many it doesn’t work because they want to be their own god and/or have given up on God because of past hurts done by people, not God. Personally, I’ve never taken medications (MAT) I was one of the people the 12 steps works for. 7 years in the program and couldn’t be happier.
@msppie1332
3 ай бұрын
AA isn't for everyone, but I think to criticise it for not 'referring elsewhere' misunderstand that is it's totally non-professional and non-hierarchical - it's literally just individuals who have found a solution that works for them and share that with others who may wish to do the same. There are no clinicians making assessments and referring into different treatment pathways, and it would be inappropriate to for members to 'play doctor' by doing so - they are qualified (through lived experience) only in advising how AA works, nothing else. I've found whilst you might get some big book thumpers who are adamant this is the only thing that can work for anyone, in general most people only encourage you to try this and see rather than forcing it on you. If you want to try something different (or get additional outside help for other problems) you're at complete liberty to do so, it's just that AA members can't themselves advise on that. I think it gets tricky though when courts mandate people to go, as I think it needs to be something chosen voluntarily
@amandazammit5363
Ай бұрын
2 years sober and the 12 steps saved my life when all other methods failed- and I mean all methods, because I am an alcoholic, where no human power can relieve it. where the only solution is a spiritual one. Non 12 step Rehabs make a lot of money from real alcoholics who haven't tried AA yet. I will never leave AA, and eternally grateful for finally living a life with no desire to drink, who once couldnt stay away from drinking for more than 5 hrs. For me there is no such thing as controlled drinking. I nearly died trying to do that. AA does not fail, it works -when people are willing and honest.
@Ksvtjhyb7
Жыл бұрын
If it doesnt work, youre told you were not listening, you werent practising the steps right. Heres their solution for feeling anger or fear. We ask God to remove our anger or fear. We think of how we might help the person who has offended us. We think of him/her as spiritually sick and we try treating them as one would treat a person with an illness. The implication is with compassion and empathy disregarding any offensive behaviour on their part.
@jayklark
8 ай бұрын
Go to more meetings, this is wrong
@danielle92118
7 ай бұрын
Poor understanding of dealing with a resentment.
@markg.4246
7 ай бұрын
Nonsense!
@jkthewonderguy
7 ай бұрын
Do what you want then. Good luck. Don't die on the way
@bobpelley5093
6 ай бұрын
Sounds spot on to me!
@blondbreaze
18 күн бұрын
I'm 36 years sober. The author refers to the 90% of potential alcoholics in the rooms. I'm the 10% chronic. I think rhis science based Finland approach is plausible, scientific and is going to work for these 90% of serial relapsers that after all give AS it's 3% success rate.
@zaxxx1975
9 ай бұрын
So. ...whats your solution? I use it all. All the tools i can pik up. And still im not perfect. And. Aa states that...we practice progress not perfection. New effective treatments? Treatment happens usually in a rehab...
@danielle92118
7 ай бұрын
There is little "new" in effective treatments, at least as I've seen up close over the last 50 years.
@ChrisSmith-nw7be
6 ай бұрын
MISQUOTE I often ear repeated.....the book actually says "Spiritual Progress rather than Spiritual Perfection." AA works for me 25 years sober. I drank alcoholically for 27 years till 10/1/1999
@jordanlineger-nd5gz
6 ай бұрын
She said it right in the talk - CBT - Motivational one on one pep talks and meds. That’s the treatment oh and if you want to drink - walk your dog instead… She is clearly not an alcoholic or ever was or even close to it ! Sad to think how many will die from alcoholism because of these kinds of protocols.
@astroemerald3175
4 ай бұрын
Believe me , SMART recovery has equally as depressing as AA . The medications prescribed for A U D equally as underwheling .
@johnmccarthy7195
3 ай бұрын
I totally disagree I've been to many AA meetings and life ring meanings and life ring is far superior to anything that AA has to offer. It's community that is the glue that keeps us together.
@Adrian-yi8fl
11 ай бұрын
Sending someone to AA is like prescribing leeches for an infection instead of antibiotics.
@Americanpatriot-zo2tk
2 ай бұрын
Well I’ve been registered Nurse 38 years and we use it sometimes instead of anabiotic so you don’t know what you’re talking about.
@Adrian-yi8fl
2 ай бұрын
@Americanpatriot-zo2tk no you're aren't and no you don't. If you were an RN you'd know that in the very rare circumstances leeches might be used (reattachment of severed fingers for example) it is not instead of antibiotics. In fact, antibiotics must be given at the same time to prevent potential infection from the leeches. You AA Cu1tists will say anything to protect the cu1t.
@sirpatrickofgoober6603
Жыл бұрын
As far as I'm aware, here in the UK rehab centres (seen as centres offering private treatment) have no connection either formally or informally with AA. AA stands alone as AA with its format. Rehab centres stand alone as rehab centres with their format. If there is any overlap it isn't formal as such. Therefore any relapse rates from rehab centres stand separate to relapse rates from AA.
@doctorbob8220
Жыл бұрын
Fair point but in many treatment centers it is mandatory to comply with aa beliefs. Patients are also told if they don't go to aa after treatment they will die. So in a way aa starts in most treatment centers. Especially the state run facilities.
@danielle92118
7 ай бұрын
Because ongoing group support is a fundamental core of any addiction recovery, making the difference in maintaining quality of life. In my experience, there is a profound difference between heavy drinkers - even lifelong heavy drinkers - and true alcoholics. And a profound difference between those who can survive and those who can't. I know which camp I belong in.
@amelbeecher6097
3 ай бұрын
Those who are constitutionally incapable of being honest with themselves will not recover.
@dmb107
2 ай бұрын
and even those people can struggle along until they find a sponsor or higher power....willingness and surrender, I've seen it. It's amazing.
@lauribrown3093
6 ай бұрын
Our own literature tells us to seek other avenues of help if needed...we do not tell people to stay in rehab longer....we do not tell people to "just go to more AA"
@jonhall3151
4 күн бұрын
In my experience, AA never failed to work for me. It was when I failed to do the work that it stoopd working. Sorry you had a bad experience, but like AA says "When I am disturbed there is usually something wrong with me" This turns out to be true every single time for me. Also, don't forget the AA in.The big book is not quite the A.A Of today. In many cases has been watered down and hijacked and undermined by propaganda pieces just like this. Playing God and blaming others certainly doesn't work. Into. To the author of this hit piece: We are taught that resentment is the number one offender. You might want to keep that in mind. And now I have to get ready to go to a meeting. God bless.
@4afreeworld1
Жыл бұрын
This assessment takes everything about Alcoholism and attempts to make A.A. responsible for all the failures of individuals that did not follow the program as witten. A.A. doesn't propose it is the end all be all of recovery and is not connected to any of the other sources this person mentions in her research. She also excuses the drunk from any responsibility for their behavior and recovery. All the negative Things your read about A.A. look to excuse abusers and scapegoat A.A. for their inability to accept responsibility for their actions and absence of real attempts at recovery.
@olivierbrunelle672
Жыл бұрын
Now I don’t know about you guys but I tried to control my drinking through multiple mischief reductions program wich are common every where with BT combine with medication. Never saw it work for any alcoholic lol. When I was relapsing no one in AA told me to do more meetings. They told me to do the work.
@coreyward6937
Жыл бұрын
Damn right . This lady and these people are just so ignorant on this topic 😅
@Adrian-yi8fl
11 ай бұрын
Yeah cuz no one's ever relapsed once they got an AA right? 😅😅😅
@Adrian-yi8fl
11 ай бұрын
I love how whenever you guys hear about someone who got sober without AA you claim they weren't a "real" alcoholic. So stupid.
@pauls5096
11 ай бұрын
And by "do the work" you mean they told you to keep telling yourself (and others) that you are powerless. Always refer to yourself as an alcoholic (negative reinforcement anyone?). Always surrender....because you are too weak. Never, ever question the nonsensical crap they tell you. Always use their language. In short, YOU need to become part of the collective. But don't worry, it's not as if it's a cult or anything like that.
@kirkgriffin7900
11 ай бұрын
Alcoholics helping other alcoholics works. When they tell you they need help you build their trust and tell them what is work for you, what it was like what happened and what it's like now
@johnkenny694
Жыл бұрын
AA is a NUT house, thats the reality to it, there is nothing about a social club in Chapter 5. Keep a open mind.
@danielle92118
7 ай бұрын
Plenty of nuts, but without the beer batter:). And the other word for "clubhouse" is fellowship.
@johnkenny694
7 ай бұрын
You have to Rock Bottom into the Fellowship, don't do club AA , you will end up in a Psychiatric mental home.@@danielle92118
@bencunningham8314
6 ай бұрын
When these things don"t "work", it's because nobody "worked" for it.
@darqueyes
Жыл бұрын
Is this information available in book format? I would like to send it to a friend, currently incarcerated, on domestic violence offenses that were directly tied to over drinking.
@MrNonesence1
11 ай бұрын
Its a simple program. Its nothing like what people make it to be. The only requirement to join AA is a desire to stop drinking. Its your will to stop and stay stopped coupled with honesty and a receptive mind and heart because theres a spiritual side to it which is the back bone of the program.
@wheatstonebridge
Жыл бұрын
I found being in AA made me extremely completely. I checked it out and been to many different meetings. Never worked for me. I find Smart recovery is much better.
@killacambuckets4236
Жыл бұрын
Going to many meetings is not working aa you have to do everything that is suggested in aa work the book and go through steps never seen a person fail who has thoroughly followed our path
@mariaquiet6211
Жыл бұрын
@@killacambuckets4236 I've seen plenty fail, repeatedly
@rockybalboa4593
Жыл бұрын
I only wish Smart Recovery was as widely available. Unfortunately it isn’t
@Tk-di5vd
10 ай бұрын
Smart recovery is literally the same exact thing for people that are afraid of the word god, and are not mature enough to understand what god really means in aa.
@glenvilleashby2872
10 ай бұрын
@@Tk-di5vd Not mature enough… And you are. Oh, so full of pride.
@SVPERBEASTO
2 ай бұрын
This lady is dangerous and is I'll informed. Obviously reading off a script and had menial understanding of how aa works......if you work the steps. People who dont...don't recover end of story.
@chrisfonden6431
9 ай бұрын
My father got sober . Never drank again. I’m sober 42 years. My brother just passed away with 42 years. I agree about rehabs. Never went to rehab myself. Neither did my father or brother. But before AA nobody got sober . A few got sober through religious conversions . Naltrexone was being used in American rehabs back in the seventies. My friend was on it . Never got clean and sober . Moderation didn’t work for me . Or for most real alcoholics. Read the forward to the second edition of the book Alcoholics Anonymous. Recovery rate of 75%. Of people who come to AA and really try, meetings , steps, sponsor most stay sober . These stats are from rehabs where many don’t want to get sober. Court orders or family etc….
@jkls36912
9 ай бұрын
Chris R, Myers R. Say the success rate was so great back in the day because everybody was sponsoring each other. If you were new coming in you were immediately brought through the steps in 4 hours. The spiritual experience was the aim. They were all hanging out at each others houses. AA today has become watered down. Self-reliance avails us nothing.
@1DaTJo
9 ай бұрын
@@jkls36912excellent point
@danielle92118
7 ай бұрын
BOOM! I was quite peeved when I discovered that there were places you could go where they'd feed you and give you a bed while you got sober! 48 years ago, I vaguely remember thinking that I was going to probably die if I kept it up, most likely quite by accident:)
@JohnHausser
7 ай бұрын
I stopped drinking 5 years ago but it wasn’t because of AA ! I am an atheist so the ideology of the AA would have been useless for me Stop drinking for the good reasons (mental/physical/fiancial health,etc) ! Is it easy ? Not at all ! Everyday counts but you always have to keep in your mind that alcoholism is a disease
@stevenc6705
Ай бұрын
Someday your willpower might take a rest or not show up. In that instance you’re scream for God.
@SeanieGBaby
11 ай бұрын
Yes, people have ripped my lines again and again. I’m not a transformer, I’m a rocker that got clean years ago.
@SPL0869
10 ай бұрын
I’m an atheist who is currently attending AA meetings. It’s doubtful that I’ll walk away from it believing in the biblical god or any other immaterial cosmos being that supposedly exists outside of space and time. My efforts to stop in the past came up nil. I did the “75 day hard” challenge and completed it in one round and started back drinking on day 76. I tried the Sinclair method and the naltrexone made me sick to my stomach; so far, AA or rather going to meetings has helped me get to 24 days of sobriety at the time of this post. If there’s a non theistic recovery program that I can try that works, then I’m all for it.
@matshagstrom9839
Ай бұрын
The author has never read the big book. I think anyone who does will remove this hatred of A.A. AA is not hard to study read the book. The author is wrong. AA recommends seeking medical help and is highly supportive of the medical community. Read the book. The program works for those willing to follow the simple program. Some people do not want to get clean. AA has always supported anything that works. The speaker should really read the book before saying the things she says. This is a little nuts.? To claim to understand AA without having ever read the book that explains the program. I assure you Finland does not have better recovery than the USA. I’ve been there.
@johnnieharnest8877
2 ай бұрын
10855 days-- one meeting at a time...
@dmb107
2 ай бұрын
keep it up. that's terrific!
@cloudymindtv85
2 ай бұрын
AA has a 5% success rate I believe , obviously not for everybody.
@krisscanlon4051
6 ай бұрын
Oh this is Glaser who has a big hatred for 12 step meetings. Making money off of being a pundit. No doubt that rehabs are a terrible choice for active addiction. She is way off with the counselors requirements. Peer support is fantastic and truly helps. As for 12 steps, it isnt the be all end all. It has its faults but at this point its one angle. Ive worked in the industry for 30 years and honestly addiction will morph into other addictions even with MAT. MH issues are what drives addiction. Ive worked in a dosing clinic for a few years and these antagonists only do so much.
@GeorgieGemmell-iw3lo
Күн бұрын
Recovery isn't synonymous with 12 steps!
@markfrancis4384
9 ай бұрын
Anything that helps us towards a sober or more sober life can't be bad. I'm reading this stuff because I'm looking for answers. I think it's good to keep looking. Maybe Fit Recovery won't help me stop, AA didn't so much really... but the searching really slowed me down. I feel grateful to be alive. thanks
@donaldcharbonneau3801
3 ай бұрын
I remember a line I heard in an old medical show, maybe Ben Casey. The older doctor told Casey that the success rate with addiction is about 2%. I now wonder how true that statistic is.
@matshagstrom9839
4 күн бұрын
It’s 100% for those who get recovery and it’s 0% for those who do not. AA is not about not drinking as much as it is about changing your life so we do not have to. This author really does not understand the AA program. I doubt she has even read the big book which has 30 million copies sold. The majority of people do not get recovery but instead die from the disease. For those who want to quit AA has helped more people than all other forms of recovery by far. The reason large organizations recommend AA inc most for profit treatment centers is because it is by far the most effective. It took me decades to get sober. The reason is clearly explained in the big book. I had the great obsession that I could drink like a normal person. Not until I accepted that I was an alcoholic, that my life had become unmanageable and that no human power could restore me to sanity did it work and here I am. Best thing I ever did. Wish it happened sooner but at least it happened.
@robinsnest68
Жыл бұрын
AA is bullshit. If you don't believe in God, it sucks. If this invisible being up in the sky can save you, then you can blame him when you fail. I took responsibility for myself and I blame myself. I also have saved myself with the help of friends and family. Ya gotta be sick and tired of being sick and tired. Rehabs are a laugh too. Take responsibility, find help whatever way you can. If you fall off the wagon, climb back on and you can do it! IWNDWYT 8/04/2016❤
@teresahunt5521
9 ай бұрын
What does IWNDWYT stand for? I will not drink with you today? Lol...help...
@robinsnest68
9 ай бұрын
@@teresahunt5521 Yes 😁
@teresahunt5521
9 ай бұрын
@@robinsnest68 Love it!
@stuartcumings8026
Жыл бұрын
Too much control with there program in there… “If you leave AA you will drink” being one quote… I went there for years but never got to grips with it and saw more relapses in there than people outside of it and people still get obsessed with drink even though they dont drink… 13th stepping as well i saw alot of… Glad im shot of it now and feel free again… It worke for some but not everyone
@danielle92118
7 ай бұрын
Funny-I see much more serenity then relapse, but that's based only on my 48 years of sobriety:). Guess we see what we're looking at-
@stuartcumings8026
7 ай бұрын
@@danielle92118 i seen 13th stepping and people being manipulated in there and gossiping and breaking the yellow card.. Also people being told not too take medication they actually need…. But i was told AA is for sick people so i guess sick behaviour comes with it… Not everybody though
@stuartcumings8026
7 ай бұрын
@@danielle92118 i saw more sickness than serenity
@johnmccarthy7195
3 ай бұрын
@@danielle92118I have been going to home group meeting here over the last 20 years I got 40 years under my belt not drinking and I've seen thousands of individuals coming through and never seeing them again after 3 weeks or 3 days or 3 years. So I wouldn't be so quick to get on your high horse and say how effective AA without realizing that they got a foothold in the system.
@rosenrosen77
Жыл бұрын
Glaser does not know what she is talking about, happily sober in AA since 6-23-05
@carriemccarthy2069
Жыл бұрын
Most people like Glaser, and most people in general don't understand the disease of addiction. Most people have an oppinion of addictions, it's a complicated disease with a simple solution, a 12 step program worked everyday by the addict. Glad you found it, may you be happy joyous and free, One Day at a Time.
@Adrian-yi8fl
11 ай бұрын
A disease that doesn't exist because it isn't a disease and it can only be cured by following some nonsensical steps that some drunk guy made up 100 years ago. 😂😂😂
@carriemccarthy2069
11 ай бұрын
@Adrian-yi8fl The American Medical Association declared Alcoholism a disease in 1956 and included addiction in 1987. I think I'll go with the AMA over your uneducated opinion!
@Adrian-yi8fl
11 ай бұрын
@@carriemccarthy2069 oh look another AA cultist.
@aujax1
Жыл бұрын
AA works just fine. But one has to do a lot of daily action - prayer, meditation, quite a few meetings every week, step work, inventory, nightly review, service to others, etc. Most people who “fail” simply dont follow the suggestions. I know lots of people who have tried the alternative treatments like the sinclair method and still drank. Dont be fooled, AA is the best option for most. And for some, its the only real game in town.
@williamalbert290
Жыл бұрын
Well said
@johnmccarthy7195
3 ай бұрын
I followed those directions explicitly for 1 year I realized that I was being bamboozled. After I had one year under my belt and I did not get this spiritual awakening from some deity or some nonsense of a higher power. I just work whatever steps I thought were appropriate for me and I was 40 years ago and I have not had a drink since.
@saopaulo2000
Жыл бұрын
My 10 years in AA were tough, i had to go every single day to a meeting. This is how this works. Old timers told me to be patient all will be good. And it is
@ILoveFallFoliage2024
28 күн бұрын
AA is either going to work for u or its not..not going to meetings does not mean you cannot make it I am an addict in recovery and I do not like meetings I do not attend them and I am happy and clean and sober I have been in meetings they are not for me whatever works for you.
@magmasunburst9331
3 ай бұрын
There is a great video by a psychologist citing a study that long-term AA people have changed brains when it comes to triggers to drinking. That shows that the program works. There are a lot of people that are stuck in the program that don't really belong there, people that have been pigeonholed as dual diagnosis, half mental illness with half a enjoyment of intoxicants. The human race enjoys intoxicants in many different lands and to do that does not necessarily mean one is an addict. Real alcoholics are different than real marijuana addicts or real hard drug addicts. When alcoholics relapse it can often be a deadly thing, but when a marijuana addict relapses on alcohol thinking that he is an alcoholic because he goes to aa, he probably ends up having a different experience with the relapse.
@rayH357
10 ай бұрын
AA is a sham now
@EdwardHaas-iz3mi
3 ай бұрын
If a person has " a desire to stop drinking" and/or drugging, it is important to have a support network that can help you through some difficult times. If a person wants to use alcohol as way to cope with trauma or some other difficulty, it's their right. AA has given people a choice. People do find support in church groups, and other ways as well. AA may not be the only answer but it certainly the most available answer. It's not just about putting down the drink, that is the beginning, but it also about improving one's life to be fulfilling and joyful.
@Inkedflames
Жыл бұрын
Treatment doesn’t work for those who are not ready to quit. No matter what it is. I am 5 years sober it’s not easy to deny ourselves and nobody can do it for you. AA is a support group and it works..
@H2oman7
6 ай бұрын
Worked great for me and if it wasn’t for my rehab giving me A.A. to take away with me after a 28 day program… god bless and I hope whatever way you are able to recover from your disease… you are able to thrive and live an amazing life like I am due to A.A. 🙏🏼♥️
@carkrueger
Жыл бұрын
Alcohol is never the problem. The problem is that it was the solution. You can be dry and still be miserable suffering from the ism’s. For that, thank God for AA
@reelfunnyfishing651
3 ай бұрын
The numbers will always be skewed based on perspective. Focusing on our differences was my biggest hurdle, it was definitely not solution based. What is your experience with AA? I’m drawn to people’s experiences. Get in where you fit in. I’ll never question anything that works for you or others. But, I can share that the 12 steps were the absolute last thing I was willing to try, but they were the first thing that changed my life! 8/2/10
@toshsimpkin4386
6 ай бұрын
I didn't listen to all the youtube, but flicked to the end to listen to the conclusion. The speaker's right, there's lots of other options. No-one has to go to AA. I didn't and I tried all different kinds of ways to keep off the booze such as the gym and counselling. When they failed my two options left were suicide or AA. Luckily enough I went to AA before the suicide route. 14 years sober now. Still going to AA; it's fun.
@juanluismaya9303
Ай бұрын
AA saves lives. It's hard work. That's why it doesn't work for everyone. It works for those few people who are willing to work the program and surrender their lives to God. AA offers recovery and the chance of a useful and happy life, completely for free. This lady doesn't know what she is talking about.
@dynamitecity9667
Жыл бұрын
First of all, god is mentioned in AA but it's a good of YOUR understanding. It isnt actually religious. Here in the UK, yeah, go to rehab if you can afford the thousands of pounds for it, there is no dues or fees for AA other than the desire to stop drinking. Even today though, if you're an alcoholic and go to a GP, you're actually encouraged to go to AA, and that's coming from qualified doctor's. In AA we speak about knowing If you think you're an alcoholic as it's up to the individual to realise that, can they just have one drink or regulate themselves once they start, if the answer is no then that's a big indicator.
@doctorbob8220
Жыл бұрын
In the USA it's more religious than church.
@cathy7382
Жыл бұрын
@@doctorbob8220 I disagree AA is a treatment option and in no way resembles church there is no pastor, singing of hymns, or taking of communion I think it's sad that you have such a low view of Christianity
@danielle92118
7 ай бұрын
Yep-that's the crack the light shines through:)
@danielle92118
7 ай бұрын
Odd-absolutely NOT my experience I. Multiple states and over multiple decades. In fact, there strung sentiment and practice against allowing religioysity to infiltrate. The God off AA is merely a reflection of every single individual in any meeting.
@heartofodds
24 күн бұрын
Aa is awful. They have no idea what they're doing too often. If anything al anon is the sort of thing an addict should go to. You need to be healed. Deal with the pain within. You shouldn't use, but if you feel the need to, use something safe for you while you face your issues. Don't go to a group looking to manipulate you, or at least they wouldn't know or care if you were being manipulated, emotionally used, having games played with you, put under dependency to others.
@christopherpeterson7212
6 ай бұрын
As someone in recovery I was curious by the click-bait title of the video and hear what she had to say. Since AA owns no recovery centers, charges no membership fees, or meeting requirements to keep your membership I am unclear about the False Gospel aspect. For a program that has existed for 80 years, there is nothing in the literature that claims it is the only solution, and if better ways work I'm sure AA will have served its purpose. They were not the first attempt in history address alcoholism, but it seemed to work after many years of trial and error. To quote Ms Glaser, "the dozen or so people" she spoke to who couldn't stay sober, I hope she helped them, and they found a path to recovery with her direction in whatever new model she believes will work for them.
@lookupsenomyx2942
Жыл бұрын
Her best kept secret is from 2013. Did someone write a strong book on the subject recently that anyone’s aware of?
@DeviHisgen
Жыл бұрын
the sober truth
@JulieSweet-k4g
23 күн бұрын
You cannot teach an alcoholic to drink normally if a person can drink normally, they are not by definition and alcoholic AA works. If you work at it has saved millions of lives do not discredit what God has put into motion for people who cannot help themselves.
@jps0117
Ай бұрын
The speaker is correct. AA is a cult to be avoided. It was founded in 1935 and we have learned much about addiction -- its causes and treatments -- in the intervening years.
@mattsimon8523
2 ай бұрын
AA saved my life and I will always tell other alcoholics about my experience, strength, and hope. It's not about quitting the drinking that brings people to this realization. I'm Matt, and thanks to AA and the fellowship of other recovering alcoholics, I've been contributing to society without a single drink since 8-1-20. I cannot speak for the other millions out there, but I can tell you that my wife and children do agree that AA saved our family and marriage while keeping me employed and helped me to become a better person. It's not science, by the way, it's not a place to prove a thing ❤
@oglelaura
11 ай бұрын
Sounds like the issue is with rehab centers. AA does one thing well but it's not for everyone. They don’t claim to have the last word and encourage people to get additional help.
@danielle92118
7 ай бұрын
Exactly, and there's one strong reason that most treatment centers encourage graduates to continue on attending meetings - it works.
@kylenash5428
2 ай бұрын
Weird that someone would make negative content about AA. Of all things. I guess I’ve seen it all now.
@Jack-il3qv
29 күн бұрын
That's a, 'Yet,' for me! ❤
@jamesl9371
2 ай бұрын
It works for some people and for some others it doesn’t
@jkls36912
9 ай бұрын
This video is not what I thought it was going to be? this can be a dangerous message for a real self absored addict alcoholic. Let's face the facts, alcohol dims ones conscious ability to make sound decisions which can lead one to harder substances. AA creates a spiritual side to all facets of life. Its specificly designed for the self-centered warped mind, phenomenon of craving, and the allergy body. I was born having methadone withdrawals. Im prone to addiction. I've tried for 16 years to prove i wasnt an addict anylonger. It's much easier just to go to AA, do the 12 steps with a sponsor than to live in the real world on your own and to try to prove that I am not. Which is the much more difficult lonely way to live.
@danielle92118
7 ай бұрын
Really- what have we got to lose??
@freddycookjr.2164
9 ай бұрын
19 YEARS AGO ON MY 2ND 5150 IN TWO MONTHS I WAS RUNNING DOWN THE STREET IN A HOSPITAL GOWN TRYING TO BORROW SOME PANTS TO GO GET A DRINK 19 SOBER NOW THE STEPS NEED NO DEFENDING NOR DO I AND I KNOW MY ALKIE BROTHER AND SISTERS UNDERSTAND PEACE TO YOU AND YOURS ALWAYS
@briangentile7305
Жыл бұрын
This is goofy and subjective information from a non-alcoholic/atheist. Go figure lol 🙏
@campsitez2355
Жыл бұрын
this comment underscores Steven Hassan's BITE model, all information from non-members is to be disregarded. that is a symptom of a "high control group" and it's toxic behavior. That is how cults operate and it helps to define them. "AA insists upon itself" and if they were really interested in proving their worth compared to any other system they would openly challenge them in an effort to maintain being "the one and only way" (does this trigger an immediate "asked and answered" response in your brain - again that trigger if you don't know it is cult based mind control - just because someone says "something" doesn't automatically make it true as actions speak louder than words and the history speaks for itself -> they insist on a higher power, so devoid of a faith based method... well they're LYING BY OMISSION because they RATHER OPENLY immediately discount non-faith-based methods! yes that lie is right out there in the open, they don't call it a LIE but it's a lie regardless) because when AA puts down all over forms of leaving addiction, that has some pretty scary implications for the groups own insecurities. If they were actually interested in helping people, they wouldn't condemn all other methods without the inclusion of a science based and statistically proven approach being applied.
@BenitoAmador-v5s
8 ай бұрын
AA has a higher success rate than most counseling services and rehab programs and it costs nothing.
@johnmccarthy7195
3 ай бұрын
Because of the community Spirit that's why. Any other organization that goes in and can offer community spirit would destroy AA.
@juliewillis9539
8 ай бұрын
I knew it was not me. I needed a mental health treatment.
@danielle92118
7 ай бұрын
Many of us needed both
@johnmcdermott8523
3 ай бұрын
AA was best in 1980's when the west coast movement was strongest. We had our 1939 Big Book's principles as well as the modern insights of the west coast movement i.e. DSMIII. We did not yet have SSDI's and were warned of valium. US culture had not yet become as essentially narcissistic as it is now. Narcissism was an issue to be inventoried, discussed openly and to laugh about. AA is now dominated by cliques of untreated narcissists. The openness of gender orientation of 1980's has been replaced by closeting of orientation issues, despite the BB p.360 Tightrope warning. Many AA's fell into the prescription drug epidemic, including SSDI's. I am grateful I experienced the AA culture of 1980's and feel horrible new members are subjected to the degraded culture we have now.
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