Coming from Rossman, Great Video! I don't think I can buy anything electrical from Amazon again.
@ShanesGettingHandy
9 ай бұрын
Thank you for this, and thanks for telling Louis about it.
@richm4402
Жыл бұрын
Excellent safety video! Since we’re talking electrical , I would highly recommend keeping away from extension cords from the dollar store! You can safely assume none of them meet CSA or any other accredited safety standards.
@ellesmerewildwood4858
2 жыл бұрын
Trouble is, that just about every damn thing these days is made in China. Thanks for the heads up. I work in a car parts store, I'm going to have a look at the packets of fuses we have on the shelf. Big Clive did a similar test on Chinese house circuit breakers and each failed the test. When he took them apart there was no breaker mechanism inside at all just a solid piece of wire to complete the circuit. There's just no level too low that these people won't sink.
@GoldwingDocs
2 жыл бұрын
I saw that video (with the bogus breakers). I wish I had mentioned the counterfeit breakers in this video, it's a huge problem.
@jimcarleton
2 жыл бұрын
Scott - great job on not assuming. I'm guilty of taking fuse ratings (for vehicles) at face value and I should know better. You've brought something to all of our attention. For those that don't have the ability to test a fuses amperage capacity, just simply looking at them to do a visual inspection would be good enough. Like you pointed out, every one of the cheaper fuses in the lower ranges from the unknown manufacturer looked identical. Common sense says that's not right, and don't trust. Thanks for the awareness, hopefully it'll save someone from making a grave mistake.
@jeffanderlik7695
2 жыл бұрын
I had a great-running Goldwing that had an aftermarket brakelight flasher unit. The connections got crusty and the fuse never blew when the connector got hot and melted off the insulation, and shorted to the frame. Instead, the entire wiring harness melted internally. I ended up selling the bike at an obvious loss.
@GoldwingDocs
2 жыл бұрын
Sorry to hear this!
@wildberj
2 жыл бұрын
Hello Scott, thanks for the video. Very important subject. I had a car catch fire from the air compressor wire rubbing and shorted out. That car was totaled. Have a great day!
@_real_ask
2 жыл бұрын
Great video Scott, thanks for the info and the warning. Harbor Freight has been improving their product offerings recently so it's good to see that the fuses were good quality, too.
@badsanta518
2 жыл бұрын
Harbor freight sells Chinese garbage.
@robroysyd
2 жыл бұрын
Excellent catch. It's not just automotive fuses that can be suspect. There's also been some dodgy HRC fuses coming out of China. Lets hope Amazon takes this seriously.
@GoldwingDocs
2 жыл бұрын
I should have mentioned it in the video, but there is also a massive problem with counterfeit home circuit breakers as well - Chinese-made counterfeit copies of Square-D and other manufacturer's breakers that do not provide the proper safety margins. These are getting into the distribution channels, so you can't even be sure anymore that the breaker you buy at Home Depot is in fact legitimate, and not an inferior counterfeit copy.
@Oldbear42
Жыл бұрын
Time to go check my supply of fuses. I still have a good collection of glass fuses thanks to owning the 83 Wing for years
@chrisl4999
9 ай бұрын
Thank you for the research. I was literally about to buy some fuses for my truck.
@Goldwing1500rider
2 жыл бұрын
I’m always skipical where but electronic parts anywhere online… really sucks!! Surprisingly, I just recently bought those fuses from Amazon ( groan) I was skipical bout harbor freight stuff, guess I go buy couple boxes throw in my Goldwing. Geez !! Thank you for sharing!!
@BlackArcher221
2 жыл бұрын
I never knew. Now I have a little bit of GOOD work to do. Glad you found the problem.
@dennisjoiner3717
2 жыл бұрын
Wow! Had no idea that kind of thing existed. Thank you for the video!!
@Robnord1
Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video. I followed you here from the comment section of another, less informative (wimpy power supply) video on this topic. I do RV repairs, got an Amazon assortment a few months ago, and thank goodness, have only used a couple of them so far. I'll bench and visual test those I bought, but have a feeling they'll probably end up in the trash.
@cycleguy666
2 жыл бұрын
Thanks Scott!! 😊 I have the harbor freight fuses and went out to see if mine were like the ones you had. And yes they are!! Glad they are properly working fuses. Sad that Amazon sold those imposters!! Keep up the good work!! 👍
@Random_4400
9 ай бұрын
Louis rossmann brought me here Quite a scary situation, i bought a glass fuse kit a while back for 5$ while they look very similar to name brand ones and it makes me wonder if the same issue applies to such fuses as well, after seeing all this i will definitely have to test them luckily i haven't used them in anything very critical.
@TheStephenbloxham
2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for bringing this to our attention. I'll be aware.
@dave.of.the.forrest
2 жыл бұрын
It's almost like they do this on purpose. 🤔
@freman
2 жыл бұрын
I just shared this in a christmas lighting community - many people beyond automotive use these fuses, thank you as someone who went to amazon and paid more than he would have on aliexpress for fuses like this (we don't have a harbour fright) assuming they were getting bettter than the same thing.
@tjclarke4604
2 жыл бұрын
That's great information! I actually got some fuses from Amazon, I think I will go out and check them to see if they are all the same.
@TheClintmeister
2 жыл бұрын
I remember having trouble with Ebay and the foreign mfg sending out wrong sizes shirts. What I told Ebay is "theres a big box of assorted labels and they will put any one on any shirt"! This is troubling!
@gohjohan
2 жыл бұрын
Not surprising because Asian sizes are smaller than European, American and Australian sizes. If the t-shirt is from China, it's Large straightaway, unless you want a body hugging shirt that shows your nipples, love handles, etc...
@fvrrljr
9 ай бұрын
*Louis Rossmann brought me here*
@AlanElBee
Жыл бұрын
Thanks! Good stuff. Now tossing my Amazon Crap-a-fuses.
@joehovanec1985
2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the information.
@ellobo1326
Жыл бұрын
The only thing that would cause Amazon to change is a multi million dollar lawsuit.
@adolfovontraction3780
2 жыл бұрын
I had actually an opposite problem: I burnt 40 amp fuse in the circuit which draws around 40 amps and discovered I had no "attractive" replacement in this fuse size ... and forced to build up sort of "Mygiver" fuse and coat it with epoxy resin. Works fine.
@GoldwingDocs
2 жыл бұрын
If you coat a fuse with something, it will conduct heat away and prevent it from blowing. That's why you always see the fusible part suspended in mid-air...
@adolfovontraction3780
2 жыл бұрын
@@GoldwingDocs This was the goal since no place for bigger size fuse in the module and mini fuse max is 40 amps (as said earlier I need 40ish amps in) . I modded a booster with extreme 300 amp FETs and my real fuse now is the coil in the circuitry 😀
@Titan500J
Жыл бұрын
This is something I never thought of. Great video!!!
@Supercell725
2 жыл бұрын
Guess what I’m doing when I get home from work? Thanks Doc
@oldmanjim2376
2 жыл бұрын
Thanks fir the warning. Sounds like the only good thing about that kit.......is the case. Dump the crap and refill with quality fuses from known good manufacturers.
@GoldwingDocs
2 жыл бұрын
hahaha that's exactly what I ended up doing! The case is great for storing little things.
@oldmanjim2376
2 жыл бұрын
@@GoldwingDocs Yeah, I was probably going to get a couple of those types from wally world to make fuse kits for my Wing and car
@jimeckenrode1271
2 жыл бұрын
excellent advice and testing. thank you
@thewanderin_rider
2 жыл бұрын
Guess what I’ll be checking now!!
@Todd66
2 жыл бұрын
Information assimilated, maximum gratitude
@chrispulham4779
Жыл бұрын
Great info friend,,, thanks from Australia!
@gearedup365
2 жыл бұрын
I laughed my ass off on the last blooper….. been there many times😂
@GoldwingDocs
2 жыл бұрын
The worst part was I had to pick them all up and sort them back into the right places in the box, so I could re-shoot the same shot again!!! :)
@anonimous2451
2 жыл бұрын
@@GoldwingDocs ROFLMFAO, sorry for your mishap Scott. We all been there, yours was just public.
@gearedup365
2 жыл бұрын
@@GoldwingDocs mine usually ends up being the magnetic tray of carefully arranged bolts that end up rolling away into the shop floor abyss
@Mr1drumlover
Жыл бұрын
Thanks for this video Scott!
@leroysnelling2666
2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video!
@steverichmond9993
Жыл бұрын
Great Video! thank you!
@vladimirchlopcik3384
2 жыл бұрын
Hi Scott, thank you for that info. Good to know. 👍
@MM_in_Havasu
2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the heads up! Too much chinesium junk out there.
@j.t.5826
2 жыл бұрын
WOW, that is crazy.
@MotoRiderGreece
2 жыл бұрын
Great video
@cncbuss1
2 жыл бұрын
Send them back and report it to Amazon!
@GoldwingDocs
2 жыл бұрын
As I mentioned, I have reported it to Amazon, but they have not (so far) done anything about it.
@ThomasMoore.1
2 жыл бұрын
Great video. Thanks. Love the channel.
@JoseHernandez-fj9tv
2 жыл бұрын
Thanks Scott great video and information
@themotomotion
2 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much!
@tubeonline629
2 жыл бұрын
Just think about all the electric devices you have in your home that are made in China. t.v. microwaves, hairdryer, phones, light bulbs, the list is endless.
@Lars4468
2 жыл бұрын
Yes its all the same scrap from china
@garyedwards8142
2 жыл бұрын
Wow. great issue to bring up. 🇬🇧👍
@dimasbeltran866
2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for this awesome tip !!! 👍
@KOZMOuvBORG
9 ай бұрын
Louis Rossmann sent me. He made similar tests with similar results.
@GoldwingDocs
9 ай бұрын
I know. I'm the one who emailed him to alert him to the issue in the first place.
@KOZMOuvBORG
9 ай бұрын
Doesn't the Postal Service monitor stuff sent through the mail for fraud? Recall them charging someone about breast enlargement that was found bogus. Should be expanded to cover material sent by courier.
@KOZMOuvBORG
9 ай бұрын
@@GoldwingDocs posting a cross-link to help spread this news.
@tomos2825
2 жыл бұрын
Thank you.
@alecbrayton3789
Жыл бұрын
Holy shit I’m glad I found this video
@apm6997
Жыл бұрын
What do you think about the Bussman brand from Missouri (made in Taiwan). ? They have an EZ ID fuse that turns a little red light on when the fuse is blown for easy detection. Do you think those are good quality for the Goldwing? You need at least two packets of $33 each (autozone) because they only come in packets of seven for the mini fuses and some of the fuses on the GL 1800 take at least 8 fuses.
@GoldwingDocs
Жыл бұрын
Bussman is a well-known, long-time brand of fuses, I would have no problem with them.
@flatfingertuning727
9 ай бұрын
@@GoldwingDocsBussman is a good brand, when purchased from a trustworthy retailer. I'd be surprised if there weren't some products that would be just like the junk on this video except that somebody "upgraded" them by stamping "Bussman" on them.
@jeffpayne2261
3 ай бұрын
Do you have a fix for clogged accelerator nozzles? 1997 GL1500ASP
@johnanderson9735
2 жыл бұрын
You brought up a good point. Additionally some of us have electronic relays and fuse protection in various products like the Pahtfinder fuse block and the Show Chrome Isolation Fuse Block. These are billed to protect the CanBus system. Is there a way to test these devices? I’m sure most people like me, just accept that they do what they say they will do.
@GoldwingDocs
2 жыл бұрын
Those electronic fuses are actually current sensors with (usually) MOSFET switches, and are by design, very accurate. They can even modify the sensing (fast blow/slow blow) with firmware. So I would have no qualms in trusting them.
@paule.maurice1521
2 жыл бұрын
This is awful, thanks for your diligence .
@Akifrend
2 жыл бұрын
It's unbelievable !!!
@dalecurrier5631
2 жыл бұрын
I try to buy Bus fuses from auto parts store !!
@frank9649
Жыл бұрын
👍👍👍👍👍👍👍 Priceless !! TY
@brianschultz3812
Жыл бұрын
holy shit i have those now to remember where i put them in
@robinsattahip2376
2 жыл бұрын
Are there any Chinese products that are not dangerous rip-offs?
@jimmyt55
Жыл бұрын
I have a feeling your test was not fair. As a Master Electrician with previous ’bench’ testing, I consider myself an expert of sorts. This gradually increased amperage is not they purpose of the fuse. These one time, or “slow blow” fuses even are there to protect from “surge amperage “, like when the device goes bad, or a wire got crushed to ground. I like the fact you have taken it to the people for education purposes and save folks trouble. Just had to put my 2 cents in. Perhaps the folks need to know that all fuses are not created equal. Stick with name brand protection, just like the oil in your bike or car…. One gets what they pay for. Busman, and Littlefuse are trusted brands that go through rigorous industry testing to bring them to market. They are the leaders for a reason. I’m in no way saying your opinion isn’t valued, just a little incomplete. A fuse in the automotive/motorcycle application will save a lot of issues from occurring. I believe this issue is 1). You need find best quality protection for unforeseen circumstances. 2). Not everyone messes with electric, especially since the latest bikes are going more sophisticated with sensitive electronics and can-buss electronics etc. great tip to avoid that online giant junk from china, stick with a name that’s respected in the industry. Always look for the Underwriters Lab, or CSA(Canadian Standards), stamp of approval . In closing one more tip you overlooked is : Big no no is tapping into existing wires, because they have been selected for the intended load. Over current can start a fire like the blaze you show. Be careful, junk produced by people who aren’t going to back the product is ALWAYS trouble. Peace. Ride safe.
@GoldwingDocs
Жыл бұрын
I definitely was not testing inrush current, being that I was using a purely resistive load. But the fact that I was pulling more than 9 amps through a 2 amp fuse and it didn't blow, shows that they are faulty - slow blow or not, it should have blown long before I got to 9 amps. Plus the fact that all of the different rated fuses were identical. I agree with you, for this type of protection, you really need recognized name brand fuses - as long as you aren't accidentally buying counterfeit products! As I'm sure you know, there's a real problem with counterfeit residential breakers making their way into the common supply chain. I actually did UL/CSA testing at a testing lab for a job many years ago - another problem today is that unscrupulous Chinese companies will stamp pretty much anything with bogus UL/CSA/TUV marks, regardless of whether it has actually been tested/certified/listed or not.
@Vincent_Sullivan
Жыл бұрын
@@GoldwingDocs I am not trying to negate any of the good information in your thoughtful reply to Jimmyt55 but I would like to point out that just because a load is purely resistive does NOT mean there are no inrush currents. A typical example is a Tungsten filament incandescent light bulb. When cold the filament has a low resistance and when the bulb is turned on the resistance of the filament increases as the filament warms up. You can easily prove this to yourself by measuring the resistance of a cold filament using an Ohmmeter and then lighting the bulb from your power supply and measuring the voltage and current, and then calculating the resistance using Ohms law. Some types of bulbs have a 10 to 1 resistance increase between cold and operating temperature. This results in a very large inrush surge when the bulb is turned on - assuming the power source can supply the surge. It also explains why incandescent bulbs frequently fail at turn on... The surge blows a weak spot in the filament. This is also why if you look carefully at the ratings on switches intended to turn lights on and off you will sometimes see a "T" current rating somewhat lower than "AC" current rating. The "T" stands for Tungsten and indicates that the current rating of the switch is lower when switching incandescent bulbs due to the large inrush currents. At least the resistance of a filament light bulb is always a positive resistance. There are weirder loads out there which have negative resistances. A typical example is a fluorescent or other gas discharge light bulb where the resistance decreases as the current through the bulb increases. When connected to a constant voltage source high enough to "strike" the bulb this characteristic results in a "runaway" current increase almost instantly destroying the bulb. The purpose of the "ballast" in older fluorescent light fixtures is to limit the current through the bulb using inductive reactance to prevent catastrophic bulb failure. In more modern fixtures the current is limited using "constant current" electronic power supplies. My job years ago was to design and build electronic equipment for scientific research part of which was to build high voltage variable current drivers for such light bulbs to be used in spectrographic research. Essentially, using electronic devices (high voltage power FETs), sufficient positive resistance was created in the circuit to balance out the negative resistance of the light bulb plus enough resistance to limit the current to the desired value. This was done dynamically using a feedback loop so when the negative resistance of the bulb being driven changed the circuit would compensate thus keeping the current through the bulb constant. Again, no inductance or capacitance involved other than strays in the circuit due to wire lengths, etc.
@flatfingertuning727
9 ай бұрын
The purpose of a fuse is to blow before any wires in series with it can get excessively hot as a result of overcurrent. A wire which is subjected to 2x its rated current will produce four times as much heat as it would with the rated current, and one subjected to 3x its rated current will produce 9x as much heat. If ambient temperature is 40C (hot but not unbearable), and a wire is sized to heat up by 30C when run at rated current, the wire would eventually reach 70C at rated current, or 310C at 9x current. The wire wouldn't instantly reach 310C, but would eventually get to about 310C if 3x current were sustained without the fuse blowing. A good part of testing fuses should be to wrap a temperature-sensing aparatus in a piece of relatively fine wire and measure the temperature increase in the wire when the fuse is subjected to a very severe overload. Use two fuse holders in series, put quality high-current fuse in one, and test quality fuses with lower current ratings, and increase the current rating until the temperature rise approaches the limits of what the aparatus could withstand without damage. Then put that rating of good-quality fuse in one holder while testing lower-current fuses in the other. The lower-current fuse should limit the temperature rise to a much lower amount than the high-current fuse, but a garbage-quality fuse might not, in which case the quality higher-current fuse would protect the aparatus.
@user-hf8ie8mf3n
2 жыл бұрын
My wife works for Amazon, and she’s Chinese…so that’s over 😢
@lesliemeehan3724
Жыл бұрын
I only buy from my local auto supply
@bothrechisschlegelli7046
2 жыл бұрын
Gents, keep the ball low. No matter where you buy fuses or cables, they all come from China and are produced in China. In the end, you get what you pay for. Quality also costs in China some $$. I build motorcycles myself and buy everything that is possible and legal in China. Never had any problems. Get rid of the stereotype that everything from China is bad. Your PC, your mobile, your medicine, battery in your Goldwing... I liced there fore a decade and wirked in automotive, I know what I am talking about.
@newracer74
Жыл бұрын
Something was wrong with your initial test. The screen shot shows 9.5 amps and 22.5 watts, which means the voltage was only 2.37. The top of the display is cutoff in the shot but you can see it's likely 02.37 volts. 9.5 amps at 12 volts would be 114 watts.
@GoldwingDocs
Жыл бұрын
Correct. As you reach the upper current limit of the power supply, the voltage drops. The same will happen to the voltage of any circuit as you start drawing current close to or at its maximum capacity.
@newracer74
Жыл бұрын
@@GoldwingDocs then your power supply is not providing enough power to blow the fuse. Show the readings at 5 amps. What were you using to put a load on the circuit?
@GoldwingDocs
Жыл бұрын
@@newracer74 That's not how electricity works. Fuses blow based on current flow (amps), not power flow (watts), which is calculated by volts X amps. A 5 amp fuse will blow when you pull in excess of 5 amps. It doesn't matter if you have 1 volt, 10 volts or 1000 volts, when you hit 5 amps, the fuse blows. Every power source, either a battery or a power supply, when you reach the limit of its ability to supply power (measured in watts), will have a voltage drop. Put a huge load (like a starter motor) on a weak battery, and the measured voltage of the battery will drop from 12 volts to 7 or 8 volts - or less, depending on the state of the battery. What you're seeing in this video is exactly that: as I approach the limit of my power supply (in watts), the measured voltage drops. The measured current is maintained, because that is determined by the load (subject to the current capacity of the power supply). I have the power supply set to 13.8 volts, but as I reach the limit of its capacity, that voltage drops, as expected. Regardless, the fact that the voltage drops is entirely irrelevant to the test, because fuses don't care about volts: only amps. The voltage could have been 2.37 or 23.7 or 237, it doesn't matter - what matters is that it was measuring 9.5 amps of current flow, going through a 2 amp fuse which should have been blowing at >2 amps. You state that the power supply is "not supplying enough power to blow the fuse." This is totally wrong. Again, fuses blow based on current (amps), not power (watts). And the power supply was supplying 9.5 amps - far in excess of the 2 amps that the fuse was rated for. This means the fuse had 9.5 amps of current flowing through it - and was still not blowing. THAT is the issue.
@donnieonsager4223
Жыл бұрын
Always check with a meter.put it on ohms and it will give you the truth.
@GoldwingDocs
Жыл бұрын
No, it won't. Every fuse, regardless of rating, will measure 0 ohms. The only way to test a fuse is as I show here: run current through it and measure that current when the fuse actually blows.
@RockAnAhardSpot
Жыл бұрын
so here is why those people can "CAN" continue selling those fuses on amazon and eBay and everywhere else. because people just cut their losses and throw them away. YOU ARE enabling them. You have to make them take the loss or they will continue to do this
@RockAnAhardSpot
Жыл бұрын
Yup! harbor freight has hardly anything in their store that is made in china. Bajajajajaaaa
@michaelosmon
2 жыл бұрын
Apologize for that yellow paint in your basement I don't care about the clutter.
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