I’m in Calif, the fees added to my electric bill are 68% of the total bill. So 32% of my bill is actually for the power I use.. Ten years ago my power bill was approx $75. Today it’s approx $300 and I’m not using more power. My point is that adding Solar and batteries and going off grid completely makes a lot of sense now. I can avoid these fees and cost of the power and see a pretty fast ROI. Batteries is the key.
@bluezcluez315
5 сағат бұрын
Or do a solar + battery import-only system. The utility just sees a reduction in load and you maintain the redundancy and convenience of a grid connection.
@brentfrank7012
5 сағат бұрын
@@bluezcluez315 but I’d still have the fees!! 💰
@wizzyno1566
3 сағат бұрын
@@bluezcluez315but then he'd still have the fees.
@CorwinPatrick
2 сағат бұрын
@@bluezcluez315, except there are fees regardless of what you use.
@motofunk1
Сағат бұрын
Call and ask to fully disconnect from the grid. See how that goes.
@FarmtheSunUSA
Күн бұрын
What percentage of your 49.9K subscribers are in the USA? I have a Tesla Energy solar array plus one Powerwall battery plus a Mitsubishi Outlander PHEV. Some months I have a small monthly electric bill, some zero billing, and a small check from Eversource for the excess generation sent back to the grid through my PPA program.
@GaryDoesSolar
Күн бұрын
About 20%
@Hansen710
14 сағат бұрын
just wait to you get to sceme 4.0 like where i am.. im deffently removing as much as posible from the grid the next couple of years
@mb-3faze
11 сағат бұрын
Which State? I'm familiar with CA - particularly Santa Clara (Silicon Valley) where we pay approx $0.13 per kWhr. This is because the city does not have PG&E electricity. It's a bargain, but a 'fly over' (on google satellite images) will show very few solar PV installs. At 13 cents for import it's honestly not worth it - especially with the tariff-inflationary panel prices.
@xpreflex6265
7 сағат бұрын
@@GaryDoesSolarits now 50k subs congrats
@GaryDoesSolar
6 сағат бұрын
@@xpreflex6265 Thank you! I'm well happy 😃
@kipper2k
10 сағат бұрын
Here in Canada, if you check the electricity bill there are different fees/tariffs on the electricity bill so as more users switch to solar etc you will see these fees increase as elec companies try for a cash grab, they are not only making money on producing electricity but also on reselling YOURS. The only way to beat them is to get battery backup systems and remove yourself from the grid completely. If you don't you will still pay monthly fees. I realize this will have a high setup cost but over a long term period it will be beneficial
@mungewell
6 сағат бұрын
I believe there will be significant benefit to EVs becoming capable of bi-directional charging...
@michaeldepodesta001
14 сағат бұрын
Thank you for another very clear video. It's been clear for some time that a "day of reckoning" would arrive where the grid value of exports would negative. But it is still very unclear to me how we will collectively manage it. I have a Tesla Powerwall 2 and it is generally excellent, but not the most flexible in terms of programming to match, for example, Agile tariffs. Perhaps you could take a look at some battery systems and compare them from teh point of view of programmability. Just a suggestion. Best wishes: Michael
@PowerOn-
14 сағат бұрын
Here in NSW Australia, negative pricing is an opt in at the moment but mandatory from July 2025. Its complicated but basically you will be able to export xxkWh/ month but above that threashold you will pay/kWh. I'm already prepared an an automatic program runs to stop exports when the price is -ve. Not easy to set up for the average punter to set up, but I think the market will start offering addons to throttle your inverter in the future.
@michaeldepodesta001
13 сағат бұрын
@@PowerOn- Yes, I think your comment "the market will start offering addons to throttle your inverter in the future" is correct. How the world has changed! Best wishes: M
@markiliff
10 сағат бұрын
I agree that the Powerwall software is really limited. I can't even set up a schedule that is self-powered (use the batteries to store excess solar) in summer and time-based (fill up the batteries with cheap power overnight) in winter… which seems such an obvious thing for users to want to do.
@michaeldepodesta001
6 сағат бұрын
@@markiliff I agree it's not very flexible but we are able to do what you described. We use "Self-Powered" in summer and go off grid for between 3 and 4 months. We then switch to time-based control. I have to cheat slightly to get this to work. At the moment (in the UK/September 2024) the export price is 15 p/kWh and the buy price is 7p/kWh for 6 hours at night, otherwise 24 p/kWh. So it fills the battery at night but then exports as much solar as it can. Soon I will switch to telling it that export price is lower and then it will use teh available solar to re-charge the battery and keep us of full-price electricity for longer.
@markiliff
46 минут бұрын
@@michaeldepodesta001 Sounds good. It's the _have to cheat slightly_ that disappoints me. In my case the schedule will automatically switch from _no cheap period_ in summer to _cheap hours 00.30-07.30_ in winter, but I still have to switch between time-based and self-powered manually - pretty dumb. Oh, and schedules can only start on the 1st of a month.
@UpsideDownFork
11 сағат бұрын
I'm making hay whilst the sun shines! 😂 I know that eventually I'll have to give in and fit batteries 😢
@mb-3faze
11 сағат бұрын
Exactly. Maybe there'll be a brief period where commercial BESS wants our excess solar but eventually commercial solar/wind will provide all the BESS requirements. By then I hope we'll be able to buy 50kWh of batteries for a couple of thousand.
@GaryDoesSolar
10 сағат бұрын
Yeah, me too! I want to extend my battery capacity in time, but waiting for prices to drop a bite more 👍🏻
@BlindedByLogic
9 сағат бұрын
Battery prices fell by 80-90% in the past 10 years and it continues to fall each year. Wait till a good deal comes along and may be surprised at the value.
@UCCLdIk6R5ECGtaGm7oqO-TQ
4 сағат бұрын
@@mb-3faze Some folk are repurposing EV batteries for a fraction of the price of a typical standalone - big kWh for cheap. I wonder if we'll see more of that in the future as used packs become plentiful.
@johncrosby7985
14 сағат бұрын
Another great video Gary ,Q. Can you recommend a good VPP in the Uk ? Cheers John .
@johnbridger5629
14 сағат бұрын
I have Octopus fixed export rate but at present the off peak rate (12p) actually means it is cheaper to charge my car off peak than from solar. If the export rate drops below the off peak rate I can just change when the car charges - I'm lucky enough to be retired so I can charge at any time.
@FFVoyager
14 сағат бұрын
I wonder if fast (7kW) chargers could be connected to a flexible tariff and plugged in vehicles everywhere benefit?
@PowerOn-
13 сағат бұрын
Here in NSW Australia, the network operator will charge for exports over a given monthly threashold. This is currently an 'opt in', but will be mandatory from July 2025. As it is a network charge it's passed through regardless of your retailer, ie you will have no choice. Given the UK has significant wind resources you will rapidly join the negative pricing club somehow. Don't panic, just be prepared and follow the advice Gary has given. One aspect that Gary has not covered is 'self curtailment'. Whilst this is a last resort it will be necessary to avoid the costs of exporting whilst the price is -ve. It is possible to do this with almost all inverters but you do need some signal available to do this and currently not easy for the average joe to sort out.
@mb-3faze
11 сағат бұрын
The alternative to self curtailment is always the extension cord to your neighbour's :)
@RichardEricCollins
7 сағат бұрын
Im going to mine crypto. 😅
@GaryDoesSolar
4 сағат бұрын
I did look into that, funnily enough… apparently not worth it these days :-( oh well… 🤣
@djhowie38
3 сағат бұрын
@@GaryDoesSolar I've mined well over the cost of the mining equipment in a year and am in profits now with the market about to reverse. So it's been good for me.
@djhowie38
3 сағат бұрын
I've been using an S19 for a year rather than selling it back, its knocking years off my solar payback
@chrismccannIRL
2 сағат бұрын
@@djhowie38interesting to see your thoughts on this and Gary’s. Correct me if this or my maths is wrong. btc is worth £48k. Average single S19 home machine operates at about 3kwh but only 141 hash rate? The more powerful s21 water cooled miner is 5.36kwh running at 335 hash rate and makes for more economical mining. It would take 102,000 hours to mine a btc or 4,250 days or 11.65 years. Thats 546,729 kWh which is about 47,000 kWh a year. Which at current buy rates in UK (0.14p) would be £6.5k per year versus the generating btc of £48k/11.65 = £4,100k (assuming static btc price). So even if you could generate 47,000 kWh a year you would be £2.4K better off not mining bitcoin but instead selling to the grid?
@OzzMazz
9 сағат бұрын
There's talk around that regulators may gain the power to disconnect customers from the grid to maintain network stability.
@GaryDoesSolar
4 сағат бұрын
Yeah, this is a thing in some countries, I understand 👍🏻
@OzzMazz
9 сағат бұрын
Half hour charging is used because that's also when the Power Stations make their bids to the regulator. Has been for decades.
@GaryDoesSolar
4 сағат бұрын
Yup 👍🏻
@ndear2955
9 сағат бұрын
Gary, this is an excellent video to help someone like myself better understand the details of net metering!
@GaryDoesSolar
4 сағат бұрын
Thank you for this really great feedback! ❤️👍🏻
@ecospider5
9 сағат бұрын
Grid level storage batteries are going to use that extra solar and then sell it back to the grid during 4pm to 6pm making them a lot of money.
@GaryDoesSolar
4 сағат бұрын
Yup, I reckon 👍🏻
@bloodynorahvan2203
11 сағат бұрын
We could do with battery storage capacity on par or even greater than an EV battery size. Bring on even cheaper battery storage. Thanks for talking about vpp. Very interesting
@tazpartridge1612
Минут бұрын
Aussie here, initial install was 18 S6 Sunpower panels and a Powerwall 2, just signed up for another 10 panels and a second PW2. Usage tariff is 40 cents, feed in is 6 cents. We have an energy retailer who has dynamic FIT, and consumption tariff is 25% off, allowing consumers to "play the market" by buying and selling energy. Storage is the key (after self consumption) to minimising costs while maximising returns. Final state will see the use of automation to shift charging to the centre of the peak, and forcing export during peak demand while still meeting household needs. Our ROI on initial install was 6 years, with the additional infrastructure that number has blown out to 8 years, however, moving to the company with dynamic FIT may allow that period to reduce
@Paul.Kenna-Law
3 минут бұрын
Here in rural Victoria Australia I have 35kw pv panels, 18kw battery, all electric house, tesla ev. We used to get 11c kw export - next week that is dropping to a min of 2c if i dont export in peak times - 8c/kw at peak. I need to find something to use up my generated power. I live in an area that doesnt have town water and have a brackish well. Looking at spending another $10k in a small reverse ossmosis plant capable of treating 2000lt a day to end my water uncertainty. To put a value on water if i run out it costs me $500 for 20000 lt trucked in, so the daily top up using morning solar could be valued at $50 - far better than the 2c/kw feed in tarrif available. And what would i do with all that water - im building a brewery.
@boblatkey7160
3 минут бұрын
So I paid about $12,000 for all of my solar equipment and batteries. Installed it myself. I did market research and created an invoice for about $24,000 for total installed cost and took the 30% tax credit on that! 😂 Then I said screw you to the local electric utilities and I said screw you to my local building department and I did not get a permit and I do not have an interconnection agreement. My system is completely hidden from view. I have set my system up in self consumption mode, with zero export to the grid. Operating for almost 2 years now and no one has detected my system. It saves me at least $2500 per year and my payback period comes out to less than three years. I really enjoy operating under the radar and screw them all!
@chanplaypool5703
10 минут бұрын
We pay for the grid superhighway that I want to use to send electricity to my friend (group net metering) but can't. The big producers can. Walmart can use roads that we pay but they can deny us access to their stores.
@dc1544
Сағат бұрын
This is why batteries are a huge addition. The rich who own electric companies only want money. After I add my other solar panels and add 1 more battery bank of 14kw for 70kw total I should be off grid for 95% of the time. I am off grid 90% right now. It would take a generator to get me totally off grid or spend another $8,000 on panels and another all in one inverter. I spend $250 over the last 12 months on importing power. even if my bill goes to $500 a year that is 16 years before payback. So for now I use the grid as backup power till it gets needed.
@jordansamuels2052
14 сағат бұрын
I’m in the UK and just agreed to get solar panels in our home. This vid makes me very nervous!
@humphreybradley3060
14 сағат бұрын
Keep the faith! It’s definitely worth it! When you can, get a battery, that changes the dynamic completely.
@afaulconbridge
14 сағат бұрын
With a large enough battery, much of the potential downside can be mitigated either through time-shifting or self-consumption (as the video mentions). And batteries are easy enough to add to a system later on.
@jordansamuels2052
14 сағат бұрын
@@humphreybradley3060 yes I’m getting batteries too so I’ll keep the faith. Thanks for the encouragement!
@steve_787
14 сағат бұрын
@@jordansamuels2052 when I was getting my quotes I had a rough spreadsheet of my usage and approx. export amounts, load shifting to over night etc. to get any idea of payback times based on IOG tariff and the export @ 15p/kWh. I also did a secondary options in the event that export payments went out the door and self consumption was the better route. It went from 5.5 years to 6-7 years ROI assuming no other rate changes. I'm making the most of the higher export rate and low over night rate but it all comes down to what happens with the tariffs. Could go up, could go down, but either way I'll have cheaper bills and have added some value to the house even if it's only a few grand.
@shaunthornton5217
14 сағат бұрын
Once you get it installed, look to switch to a time of day tariff where you can get time periods (usually during the night), when the cost per unit of electricity is much cheaper. You can then charge your batteries and use it when the cost is higher. Octopus do a range of tariffs like this.
@redshift3
14 сағат бұрын
NEM 1.0 was very very generous and it wasn't at all surprising that it was revised in the manner of NEM 2.0 and 3.0
@Zedgo99
13 сағат бұрын
I got in late in solar in Calif unfortunately but its still well worth it under NEM3. Much like how 1:1 metering was effectively a subsidy, your Battery exports rate (Avoided Cost Calculator) get locked in at the rate you interconnect under for 9 years, if you join within first 5 years of NEM3/NBT. Basically, while the power companies got together to kill pure residential grid tie solar (as they had enough locked in for their purposes) there was an effort to assure a payback period with VPP/Export double dipping for early NEM3 adopters. These rates get revised every 2 years so its a clear attempt at trying to continue to drive battery manufacturing & hope the residential battery side matures and is streamlined/scaled to the point where the economics are solid enough with just the tax rebate. In Cali you can get basically 1k+300 with VPP off a 13.5kwh battery just from two months of exports in august and September. $13k battery installed, $9K~ after tax rebate. So payback is still reasonable.
@anthonyhitchings1051
9 сағат бұрын
In california the export value is just pennies per unit (the wholesale rate); the utility gets all its money out of you for deliverance charges. Our solar saving is from avoiding the highest pricing tiers because we have an electrict hot tub.
@garyrooksby
14 сағат бұрын
Great video, Gary. Yesterday I had an Octopus surveyor reviewing my house to assess its suitability for a heat pump central heating conversion. Unfortunately, it would be way too much work. Instead, I intend to get a home battery to pair with my 3kw solar panels (10 years old). I'd really like one that supports a VPP for both monetary and environmental reasons. Fingers crossed.
@humphreybradley3060
14 сағат бұрын
I used the Tesla Energy Plan VPP through Octopus (11p import & export). It was easy & cheap, sadly Tesla pulled it a few years ago, probably in preparation for them to become an energy provider which hasn’t happen yet.
@chipdamage9374
12 сағат бұрын
I have concerns that signing up for a VPP will come back to bite us in the mid to long term just as adopting solar has done in the form of being charged for export, or perhaps in the form of exploitation of personal data.
@SeniorRoadRage
13 сағат бұрын
Another very interesting video Gary. Another thing that I have been thinking about recently is with the current drive to move to electric vehicles, I wonder how that will affect the overnight cheap tariffs? It seems to me that as more and more vehicles are charging in the quieter periods, that surplus energy will be soaked up (and thus increase the price) - I wonder how that will change the overall picture in the future.
@prometheus4130
14 сағат бұрын
You can imagine that grid costs will be less variable and more fixed in the future, higher standing charges and lower unit rates perhaps
@brucmar
13 сағат бұрын
Australia is only .05 cents. Hopeless.
@FFVoyager
13 сағат бұрын
Just like California a sunny country doesn't pay much to export solar?
@GaryDoesSolar
13 сағат бұрын
Yeah, the world has changed even from just a couple of years ago… :-/
@aperitifs
12 сағат бұрын
They are trying to get everyone to buy batteries, that are expensive and need replacement after cycles used. It's going to work here in Australia with 2cents feed in tarriffs,
@philgoogle1535
9 сағат бұрын
I'm in Victoria and about to fall off the PFiT way down to 3.3 cents/kWh. The trouble is, I can buy panels with a 25 year warranty that will have 92% of their capacity at the end of 25 years but a battery's is less than half of that. Either we get government battery subsidies or increase the evening peak FiT otherwise it doesn't add up economically.
@nicholaspostlethwaite9554
5 сағат бұрын
I am not surprised. They basically do not want customers becoming the generators that they pay rather than we pay them. Commercial generators also do not want the domestic production competition. On the whole I think more in terms of wanting to be self sufficient, effectively off grid, if not actually, than I think about the money back for selling extra surplus generation. All these speculative ideas of 'pay back' are a nonsense as the future can change at the drop of a hat. Lots of people do it and there will be lower prices paid if anything. My main use in high generation middle of the day I aim to become to run Air con as I hate the heat, heatwaves, summer hot times. I would never pay for the power to do that though if no table to use my own being mean and frugal. lol. Being retired I could load use to the middle of the day like washing and baking bread etc. But one step at a time, booking solar install now.
@GaryDoesSolar
4 сағат бұрын
Sounds like solid advice. Having AC must help a lot to soak up that solar generation 👍🏻
@opelchan
10 сағат бұрын
Vehicle to Grid
@GaryDoesSolar
9 сағат бұрын
Working on a video for that topic shortly 👍🏻
@nigelledeux6869
4 сағат бұрын
@@GaryDoesSolarmyenergi have just announced they are developing a AC V2G device for 2025. Zappi 3?
@ewitte12
6 сағат бұрын
The company I'm currently on buys at 0.022 cents per kw but sells back at 16.8. To combat this, I limit export by choosing strategic times to charge the EV. Future moving plans are to setup a different system that runs 100% off solar and only pulls from grid on emergency basis. Properly sized that would be almost never.
@GaryDoesSolar
4 сағат бұрын
Yeah, good approach 👍🏻
@ianburton9223
10 сағат бұрын
While reflecting about what you said in this clip, it occurred to me that the falling consumption (as shown in the year on year duck curves) could become a ROI problem for energy suppliers. Energy suppliers have installed capacity to cope with maximum demand. Outside maximum demand the low consumption can become a serious problem because turning power stations on and off is far from easy or economical. Is this one of the motives that governments offer people subsidies to consume more electricity in their reduced price electric cars? Clearly fossil fuel pollution is one motive, but managing electricity generation is easier if you use fossil fuelled (gas in particular) electric generators to fill in the ups and downs of electricity demand. So are electric cars being promoted to fill in the duck curves between morning and evening so that the duck curves can be filled in using constant load generators like nuclear and other very large generation complexes?
@wertigon
8 сағат бұрын
You are absolutely correct. This is why utilities are starting to sell off their baseload power and focusing more on renewables and variable sources like peaker plants and hydroelectric dams.
@rockyallen5092
14 сағат бұрын
Given that you think export penalties could come in the next few years in the UK, and inverters can last for decades, should the UK be mandating smart inverters from now on? Is there any sign of this happening?
@PowerOn-
13 сағат бұрын
Most if not all inverters can already perform this function. The question is what device is going to tell them to curtail exports. My inverters are Fronius and I'm using 'Home Assistant' to send a signal to them over wifi. It's a bit complicated but things will develop rapidly to do this more easily as demand requires.
@ianburton9223
12 сағат бұрын
Concise and easily understood. Thank you.
@GaryDoesSolar
12 сағат бұрын
That’s fantastic feedback, Ian - thank you! 🙏
@shaileshpatel4396
14 сағат бұрын
Excellent and informative video as always Gary. I guess this mean I no longer need to look into getting a G99 form completed as that would almost double the amount of solar production!!
@redshift3
13 сағат бұрын
Despite the somewhat negative outlook, it still makes sense to get as much PV on your roof as practicable. Gary points out a number of ways that excess power can be used, and having a G99 capable connection (>3.68kW) will be useful for some time and it usually doesn't cost much
@Hansen710
14 сағат бұрын
and now a company on every corner makes money from our solar production i have 3 grid connected inverters, next step is changing them out with offgrid inverters.. and same when i expand.. to manmy problems and cost in exporting, i feel like a criminal
@redshift3
13 сағат бұрын
For most people, having a grid connection provides low cost reliability
@jimw6659
9 сағат бұрын
You’re crediting all of the duck curve to solar, but not factoring in a significant drop in demand due to the cost of living crisis.
@GaryDoesSolar
4 сағат бұрын
Actually, the drop in demand over the years is due to more efficient electrical appliances…
@adamhardy8690
8 сағат бұрын
Best channel after Debby Does Dallas.
@GaryDoesSolar
7 сағат бұрын
🤣🤣🤣 Thank you! 🙏
@ZenInnovations
10 сағат бұрын
Wrong. They just want it for free.
@GaryDoesSolar
9 сағат бұрын
Explain why?
@scottbalak7123
6 сағат бұрын
I'm in Massachusetts, USA and we still have 100% net metering for all homes with a 10kw cap and 2MW roll over. We never get paid, but the grid is essentially my 2MW battery. IMHO the utility companies will eventually learn they're in the storage/offsetting business the easy way or the hard way. If they don't invest in batteries, homes will be forced to and that just further offsets the grid's customer demand. MA voted to increase the cap from 10kw to 25kw for residential with net metering so I'm guessing our duck curve isn't that bad. The downside of the MA plan is $0.34/kw fixed rate all day. If you don't have solar you really get screwed on your electricity costs.
@GaryDoesSolar
4 сағат бұрын
Long may that continue for you, Scott 👍🏻
@antontsau
2 сағат бұрын
so you want someone to invest in batteries/storages and you will profit from it? One kwh out at daytime, one kwh in at night, zero to pay and let this storage be paid by everybody else? Awesome plan.
@scottbalak7123
2 сағат бұрын
@@antontsau exactly. When the power company charges me ~2x the national average I want them spending it on storage instead of generation. If they invest in generation they'll be forced to increase price to ~3x to 4x; at which point it'll be cheaper for me to pay for my own storage instead of buying their electricity. This is basically what is happening in CA.
@antontsau
Сағат бұрын
@@scottbalak7123 its the reason why you pay twice more - you pay for all these storages, transmission lines and so on instead of generation. More green bs, more batteries - higher the price. And you want net metering means free use of these storages. Plan reliable as Swiss watch.
@aidandillon9520
14 сағат бұрын
🌞🌞🌞
@stephenbrickwood1602
12 сағат бұрын
Remember the grid is fragile because grids are extremely expensive to build. Minimum grid was built for economic reasons. Over 10decades. As grid electricity demand tries to go from 10% to 100% then grid expansion costs will make it impossible. Customers rooftop PV and BVs OVERSIZED BATTERY will be the only immediate answer. Fortunately winters will be warmer and briefer. Some emergency fossil fueled use will ok. Infact customer supply will dominate the grid.
@Biggest-dh1vr
11 сағат бұрын
Not sure about the warmer and briefer winters for all global locations given climate uncertainties!
@stephenbrickwood1602
10 сағат бұрын
@@Biggest-dh1vr yes, much is changing. But that is the point of 100% electricity. Mind you if food production changes, population numbers may change and CO2 emissions may fall. Markets will change. Peter Zeihan speaks about population changes looming. Clean renewables may be cheapest still.
@itsstan4346
14 сағат бұрын
using the extra solar production to run the electric Aga.
@MrKlawUK
11 сағат бұрын
solar export reduces domestic demand - that should be a primary reason to install it. and that is still important from a national grid perspective as it’ll factor into new power station planning and building. I’m happy to have a (small) array locked into to the original FIT tariff for another 12 years though. index linked too ;)
@Biggest-dh1vr
11 сағат бұрын
Have you considered whether it is worth moving off FIT as the EV Puzzle did?
@MrKlawUK
11 сағат бұрын
@@Biggest-dh1vr I’m off ‘deemed export’ as I added more solar so I am currently getting 15p for everything I export. But you’d be crazy to get off the generation part of FIT - they can be safely separated. early FIT is 71p/kwh and goes up with inflation
@bcpbrennan
14 сағат бұрын
Here in Ireland, some energy companies are charging / paying the same rate for import / export. Typically about 24 cent for both.
@kentneil7100
11 сағат бұрын
Octopus are now taking the piss with their new tarrifs
@GaryDoesSolar
9 сағат бұрын
How do you mean?
@kentneil7100
9 сағат бұрын
@GaryDoesSolar my day export rate has gone down but the peak has gone up which means I've got to spend more time managing export instead of letting the system do it's thing... I can earn more money but time is money and I can't automate my solax export 😮
@GroovyVideo2
10 сағат бұрын
Big oil
@GaryDoesSolar
9 сағат бұрын
Explain?
@Biggest-dh1vr
14 сағат бұрын
I think the positive case still needs to be made for solar in the UK. Whilst payments may decrease: 1) Solar panels and batteries are cheaper than they have ever been. 2) The UK still needs to triple the amount of solar it has. 3) In addition to individual homes adding batteries to store their own power and participate in virtual power plants, electricity providers will increasingly locate batteries in neighbourhoods to buffer energy to them. California is building large amounts of short term battery storage to move their demand to the evening. 4) If regional pricing arrives, there will be areas that need solar more than others, which should help maintain the prices in those areas. 5) If you have an east or west-facing array, payments and self consumption can still be better as you help meet morning and evening demand without storage. 6) Self consumption is still very valuable, even if payments reduce.
@mb-3faze
11 сағат бұрын
The so-called standing charge for an electrical connection is forever increasing. I can see a time where, with residential batteries and solar PV along with negative unit pricing, that the standing charge will be all you'll pay for a basic 12kWhrs per day. I reckon it will get closer to a mobile phone contract with essentially some free daily electricity but for a fixed daily connection fee.
@Biggest-dh1vr
9 сағат бұрын
@@mb-3faze and yes, we will need that connection for winter, when there's insufficient energy from the sun and we are more reliant on wind.
@Inventerius
5 сағат бұрын
Here in the Netherlands I have to pay 11 eurocent per kwh i export to the grid. So my 9kw system will become expensive in summer when our net metering ends at the end of next year
@GaryDoesSolar
4 сағат бұрын
Wow - that’s very scary!!
@mfb424
3 сағат бұрын
There will be Battery-as-a-Service widely available in The Netherlands by the end of 2025. You will be able to have 100% self consumption with the battery system with less monthly costs you pay now as utility fees.
@darrenorange2982
9 сағат бұрын
End solar export, end net metering!
@GaryDoesSolar
9 сағат бұрын
Net metering, inevitably yes. Solar export, perhaps just better managed?
@darrenorange2982
9 сағат бұрын
@@GaryDoesSolar The ability to export could be turned off, it still costs money right to deal with it. The power company would literally have to commit more and more resources to not generating power burning off excess. In Illinois we have power generation for example that you can't turn off or even down(Nuclear) so it will become a major problem at some point.
@timoliver8940
12 сағат бұрын
I have an elderly 3.9kW (14 years old) SW facing solar array with FIT and am on Octopus Intelligent. My panels are generating approx 55% of their original rated output (they do get cleaned twice annually as I live close to a busy road and have 2 rookeries within 150m of my bungalow!) and was considering replacing my panels in the next couple of years with newer ones but this makes me wonder if it will be worth while. I have an EV and an Eddi but no battery. Might be worth leaving the solar panels until they aren’t generating significant energy and putting in a large capacity battery instead when the price of them drops further…………. decisions, decisions!
@contraplano3157
11 сағат бұрын
Now you can buy a panel with 505W, much less panels...
@Biggest-dh1vr
11 сағат бұрын
With a bungalow, installation of replacements and/or more shouldn't be too much? And maybe a small battery to go with them? Calculations should be straightforward. The EV Puzzle did calculations and ditched FIT for his panels when he realised it was worthwhile for him.
@robinbennett5994
11 сағат бұрын
I would wait a few years. Panels have recently dropped to under £100 each, but the installation companies are still charging £500 per panel to install a complete system. A small battery is well worth it now. A 5kWh battery costs about £1000 (from Pylontech or Dyness) and will last all night until your solar starts producing in the morning, effectively preventing any import (in sunny weather). The only problem would be that you'll probably need a new inverter to charge it.
@Biggest-dh1vr
9 сағат бұрын
@@robinbennett5994 it doesn't look to be that expensive, for instance Otovo quote £7.3k online for 15 panels and a battery
@georgejohnson1498
13 сағат бұрын
To get a solar PV array here would not be easy. But I have an ideal roof, facing perfectly South. If I got solar PV, and I cannot afford it, I would strictly limit myself to its output and try and make the mains supply all but redundant. Obviously that would involve a larger than normal battery for those periods of no sun days in the winter. I would make sure that I did not export to the grid even if it meant turning the PV off. After a while, I could justify asking for the grid to be disconnected, thus saving the iniquitous daily Standing Charge. A similar idea to cancelling my TV licence more than twenty years ago! Hell would have to freeze over before I would let some third party run my solar set-up. It may be okay today, but once they had control of a large proportion of the private solar, you can bet that the benefit will devolve to the shareholders rather than the private individual. That is how these things always turn out in the end. Best wishes from George ion UK
@Biggest-dh1vr
11 сағат бұрын
In the UK, the current best bet is to export during the summer to pay for import during the winter.
@georgejohnson1498
11 сағат бұрын
@@Biggest-dh1vr I have no gas so my heating is, by default, electric. I have now passed three winters without heating at all. Though that sounds like hell, really if you use two duvets for sleeping and keep your hat and coat on it is perfectly liveable even if the ambient can drop to say ten degrees C in the relatively mild winters we are getting nowadays. Obviously my electricity costs are about the same all year round. I only turn the immersion heater on for a bath, and boil a kettle for washing up and shaving etc. I do not use a tumble drier. They eat electric! I grew up in a draughty old farmhouse, so acclimating is easy - revisiting my childhood in my sixties! Most would struggle with it, I am sure. But it is how people lived before mains electricity reached every home. There would be an open fire in the front room and that was it. Bedrooms like a tent in the Arctic! Best wishes from George
@Biggest-dh1vr
10 сағат бұрын
@@georgejohnson1498 15 panels and battery might cost £7.3k installed in the UK. Grants are available, depending where you are (e.g. Scotland has grants for those in receipt of specific benefits). That is some effort to not put the heating on though!
@georgejohnson1498
8 сағат бұрын
@@Biggest-dh1vr I was talking to my friend and neighbour about this only a few minutes ago. I am not sure that it is worth the bother. If I had the cash spare, then I would not hesitate, but I am so self-reliant that I won''t claim any sort of benefits, or indeed accept any charity either. I'd get the dry-lining replaced with an insulated substitution, go solar and run a small air-source heat pump, but that is in an alternative universe to the one I actually inhabit! Best wishes from George
@Biggest-dh1vr
42 минут бұрын
@@georgejohnson1498 the nation might think it money well spent to decrease the carbon, improve your house, and maybe keep you warm and well!
@michaelsmithers4900
4 сағат бұрын
Don’t forget that gas hob is also bad for lungs, especially young ones!
@GaryDoesSolar
4 сағат бұрын
Yeah. And I wish I’d known that twenty years ago. In 50 years people will look back and find it incredulous that we burned gas to cook…
@bounderboy
6 сағат бұрын
Gulp.. don't take my export only had 4mths! Do have a big battery though so maybe I have future proofed a bit!
@GaryDoesSolar
4 сағат бұрын
I reckon you’ll be ok 😀👍🏻
@douglasengle2704
8 сағат бұрын
The practical use for wind and solar voltaic generated electricity is for maintaining electrical energy storage such as charging storage batteries. A minimum of four day's worth of electrical energy storage for home use is desired. The advertised US fuel savings for wind turbine generated electricity is 1% and the same for solar voltaic. That 1% is likely being rounded up liberally. The wholesale price of scheduled US midwest electricity is a bit less than $0.03 kWh in spring 2023. The residential rate paid for electricity in Cumberland Indiana in 2020 a suburb of Indianapolis was $0.10 kWh. Wind and solar voltaic generated electricity offers little fuel savings when forced onto the public power grid or needing to be supported in a home. The instant backup required for their dips in output is generally created with natural gas turbine generators running at service idle consuming 70% of full power output, but producing very little electricity. When instantly backing up large amounts of wild AC from wind or solar generated electricity the steam cycle of a natural gas combined cycle plant can not be used that adds 50% more efficiency. Southern California has the highest cost electricity in the US with much of its power grid companies hovering around bankruptcy unable to maintain their high voltage transmission lines from sparking wild fires. Forcing the public power grid to not only support large amounts of wild AC, but also pay near retain prices for worthless electricity has been a disaster.
@CrownRider
7 сағат бұрын
I'm in the Netherlands and I have a Dynamic Energy contract and the price per hour goes negative on a regular basis. During the peak mid day when my solar panels (3 kW peak) produce the most energy, the batteries (10 kWh) start loading. Between 19.00 and 23.00 hours the batteries unload when the upload price per kWh is high. Works great.
@GaryDoesSolar
4 сағат бұрын
Nice!
@thread_astaire
5 сағат бұрын
We have new tariffs coming that allow you to charge a home battery and run your house on solar, when there’s excess solar and wind, and dump back to grid when prices are high, or use your battery when prices are high so you’re always using the cheapest unit price. Smart meters are the key to this, and it will supersede economy 7. You can satisfy all your energy consumption and make profit on your excess. In Australia some people are making $200 a month profit after consumption. Granted, they have much more sun, but, there’s still going to be an opportunity to slash your bill to practically nothing.
@GaryDoesSolar
4 сағат бұрын
Thanks for sharing this - really insightful 👍🏻
@junkerzn7312
6 сағат бұрын
Yes,. I'm on NEM 3 (California) now. My original solar system was installed 20 years ago and my 20 years are up. All that means though is that I am now looking into batteries and no longer have to worry about NEM 2 panel limits... the only limit remaining is the maximum grid export current. Tesla PW3's are looking like a pretty good deal to me. I am DIYing the solar panels themselves but I've priced out DIYing the battery + inverter system plus required professional electrician work and its only a little less expensive than a Tesla install for the power wall. So having several PW3s professionally installed is really the solution for me. The way NEM 3 works is that you are on a Time-Of-Use (TOU) plan for your consumption, and your exports are credited for roughly 1/10th your import costs for most of the day. But during peak periods your exports are credited closer to the import costs and sometimes can exceed them depending on the state of the grid. One other thing to note about California and the Duck Curve is that grid-scale storage (aka batteries) are being rapidly deployed and now have a huge effect on the curve as well as vastly reduce adverse conditions on the grid during heat waves. This is a warning to consumers that peak pricing is likely to be mitigated further as more storage is added to the grid, so don't expect to make a mint with a large battery and solar system. In a few years the export pricing will likely only be modest-to-low. So generally speaking, focusing on self-consumption is really the best we can hope for as consumers. -Matt
@GaryDoesSolar
4 сағат бұрын
Great advice Matt 😀👍🏻
@Birko64
12 сағат бұрын
The "Grid" is a more complicated thing than is usually explained. You will not only be constrained by the countrywide or regional demand, but also by local demand back to the transformer at the end of the street. The "Grid" may be perfectly fine, but local arm of your supply may be over supplied by solar panels just in your street. In my locality I can see from the DNO heat map that the supply from my local transformer is coloured orange "near capacity" and many other nearby streets are coloured red - at capacity. Even with home batteries the local arm of the network back to the transformer could be overwhelmed on a summer day when demand is low and all batteries are full. Hence the export limits the DNO applies. The answer of course is as you say to increase demand at certain times. Eventually we may even be asked/paid to curtail our solar export for short periods (eq turn off your solar inverter). I can't see the DNO paying to upgrade the network to deal with power which is not required. Of course all these things are just technological hurdles to be overcome and not a reason the dismiss local power generation.
@northwesttravels7234
6 сағат бұрын
It seems like it would be a good time for industries that produce hydrogen or aluminum.
@GaryDoesSolar
4 сағат бұрын
Hey, maybe yes! I like your thinking!
@tonyb4773
3 сағат бұрын
Unfortunately not. Expensive capital plant has to run at near 100% - not viable with an occasional and uncertain supply.
@FFVoyager
14 сағат бұрын
I see an advantage for commercial vehicle charging - folk like Octopus Electroverse could offer a very low rate car charging through all the providers they are signed up with at times of excess generation (I know they do already but it's very limited and not as cheap as it could be!)
@davidreece1642
14 сағат бұрын
Thanks Gary. I was considering a 10kW panel system (large South facing roof) but I'm now looking at half that. As more people in the UK install solar I can see the California scenario coming to the UK in 5 years? (Given Starmer's vow to double/treble land and sea wind and solar installs over the next 10 years). I'm also trying to work out the pros and cons of a Powerwall 3 all house back up combined with a heat pump using Octopus' tariff and then install 5 kW panels at a later date or perhaps not at all.
@rickfish2802
14 сағат бұрын
@@davidreece1642 I would still max out solar in your scenario, but one pw3 will not move the needle for a HP - you almost need to plan for 3 or wait till V2L starts being more available
@davidreece1642
14 сағат бұрын
@@rickfish2802 Decisions, decisions. 👍
@rickfish2802
14 сағат бұрын
@@davidreece1642 I just placed the order for my 5th PW2 :-)
@Biggest-dh1vr
14 сағат бұрын
@@rickfish2802as solar panels are so cheap, maxing out the number of panels makes sense. Given the energy use of a heat pump on a cold day, I wouldn't bother trying to fully cover such use, but just plan a minimal heating survival strategy.
@davidreece1642
13 сағат бұрын
@@Biggest-dh1vr Aye, there's the rub. In the coldest months when heating's needed the most, solar produces the least power.
@rickfish2802
14 сағат бұрын
“The only constant in life is change” building in personal home flexibility and being able to adapt strategies when tariffs inevitably change is key. Good video giving people a heads up that assumptions in a cost case naturally won’t stay the same over a period (which can be positive and negative to outcomes) 👍
@afaulconbridge
14 сағат бұрын
I do think people being mis-sold solar-only systems is going to be a thing. Even with good workmanship and parts, solar installers are not economists and many of the forecasts included in quotes have absurd assumptions baked in.
@rickfish2802
14 сағат бұрын
@@afaulconbridge the models are certainly complex. The basic illustrations given in quotes need to be taken with a pinch of salt. You need to constantly monitor what is going on and the best tariff to optimise… a lot of people won’t want that hassle and will get annoyed it’s not working out for them when the energy companies change the goalposts
@BryceEnergyServices
11 сағат бұрын
Another great video.
@GaryDoesSolar
10 сағат бұрын
Thank you for the great feedback! ❤️
@jtreg
10 сағат бұрын
Interesting, Gary. Thank you for your work.
@GaryDoesSolar
9 сағат бұрын
You’re most welcome. Great to get feedback like this 😀👍🏻
@Andrew-rc3vh
5 сағат бұрын
Create a local grid in your road. Wire is cheap.
@GaryDoesSolar
4 сағат бұрын
Sounds like a plan!
@Joe-lb8qn
14 сағат бұрын
We are a long way off the UK having so much solar that energy cos have too much to deal with on (LOL) a sunny UK day. . Just look around and see how few house roofs have solar. Even in my affluent area where pretty much everyone could afford it its not even 1 in 50 houses.
@GaryDoesSolar
14 сағат бұрын
Did you even watch the video?
@PowerOn-
14 сағат бұрын
But the UK has oodles of wind. A windy, sunnyday and you are shafted. Prepare for negative pricing.
@Joe-lb8qn
9 сағат бұрын
@@GaryDoesSolar Yes i did and i heard you implying that in a very few years years time you can see it going away. I disagreee because the UK is so far away from the situation that say california or Oz are in and that with our weather thats likely to be a longer way off than those places where solar is a slam dunk.
@GaryDoesSolar
9 сағат бұрын
@@Joe-lb8qn Ok, can you explain why the Netherlands is about to start charging for export then….?
@Joe-lb8qn
9 сағат бұрын
@@GaryDoesSolar what their solar %? What are their energy prices compared to ours? Are they government or private? How much of what is spent is subsidised. Eg different environment.
@MitchOfCanada
8 сағат бұрын
Store your excess and use. It at night. 10-15kwh batteries are cheapp
@GaryDoesSolar
4 сағат бұрын
Agreed 👍🏻
@geoffallsopp3837
13 сағат бұрын
Very interesting. I have wondered why so much agricultural land is installing solar when prices are plummeting midday.
@dbobstoner
5 сағат бұрын
So revert to Octopus Flux eco mode and save what you can for the 4-7pm in the battery.
@GaryDoesSolar
4 сағат бұрын
Tariffs like Flux are great because they encourage you to save then export your solar at peak demand 👍🏻
@alokkadam4416
9 сағат бұрын
Although very well explained, but , the voice and the flow of this man's narration is making me going off to sleep...... very very soothing .... he really ought to try making those fairy tale audio books..... he'll make a billion, hopefully. "Gary Do Audio Books".... please....
@GaryDoesSolar
4 сағат бұрын
I’m going to take this as a compliment 😀 And you are feeling very sleepy…
@tysonjbest
13 сағат бұрын
suprised you did not mention a self consumption sensor inverter, i would love to see an episode covering this as an option🙏
@GaryDoesSolar
12 сағат бұрын
Oh, tell me more about that - sounds interesting!
@royeasto885
14 сағат бұрын
I'm in the UK. I have always understood that as the years go on I will be expanding my battery storage for these reasons.
@GaryDoesSolar
13 сағат бұрын
Good plan!
@Lawrence7of9
11 сағат бұрын
My feed in tariff was significantly delayed in approval (paperwork!) so I had to creatively utilise my excess daytime solar exactly as you suggest. EV charging on the 3pin socket worked well (2+kw) with my 10kw home battery since it drew enough - but not too much - over several hours if needed & when the clouds dipped power below used, the battery could balance everything. My 6kw pv system was often able to add 30-45% to my EV 60kw battery each day. Then if pv was really peaking (4.8kw) my ASHP strong mode for fast hot water tank could burst around 6+kw (usually just 20-25mins) with battery adding the extra. Balancing did use a little more grid than otherwise but less than 1kw per day (22p!). So worth it for using excess solar. It did take more manual monitoring & being at home, but I secretly enjoyed the challenge/independence. All this & our annual bill 4cast is under £500, & feed in earns around £300. £200 annual bill on all electric house/ev! Magic.
@gotmygoodelf
14 сағат бұрын
when we get to the point of getting charged to export think i will be turning off my panels as getting more batteries wont be the answer for me, i already have enough storage to run for 2-3 days unless my power requirements suddenly shoot up.
@FrankPloegman
11 сағат бұрын
Same thing here in The Netherlands. The government is gradually halting net taxation on electricity. In 2-3 years you will pay taxes on electricity you consume from the grid (about 15 eurocents/kWh if I’m not mistaken), but you won’t get a tax credit for electricity you feed in, so there are financial incentives to trade with the grid as little as possible. Additionally, some non-dynamic electricity contracts charge customers fines based on their installed solar generation capacity. As a result, solar panels have become much less financially attractive and demand for new solar panels has dropped dramatically. Solar panel installers are laying off personnel and going broke.
@hs0003
3 сағат бұрын
The duck curve and variable export rates are why I'm a big fan of east/west systems, instead of south. Sure you generate a bit less power on a yearly basis, but you generate them at times where modern power prices are typically higher, AND if you're aiming for buying as little as possible, such a system also allows you to get away with a smaller battery system, as you need to cover fewer hours due to your broader power generation duration.
@tonyemerson2336
2 сағат бұрын
The argument for NEM 3.0 in California was basically that net metering was subsidizing those that could afford to install solar and hurting other (particularly including lower income) users since they had to pay the burden of this subsidy to wealthier users who could afford solar. While this is largely true, the drastic change to rates and resultant returns caused the industry to crash and severely reduce installations. A better adjustment to this would have been to gradually change the rates over a period of 3-5 years to achieve equity while still encouraging new installations in the near term
@offgridwanabe
11 сағат бұрын
I think utility companies are laughing all the way to the bank if I sold widgets and some one gave me my widgets free or even paid me to take them I would be in a marvellous situation. The cost of constructing a new power plant is immense and is never calculated into the price we get for our kwh's produced. I think I would rather disconnect and find a way to use my own power but of course that is not allowed in a lot of countries we are forced to be grid tied. You give lots of reasons to co-operate with the utilities and fix their problems which is awesome for the utility, maybe buy some shares they can't go broke at this rate.
@1240Connor
4 сағат бұрын
I really think grid operators need to take more responsibility for managing demand fluctuations with storage technologies. It makes no sense to disincentivise domestic renewable generation as that is what we need, but not every household can afford the financial and time investment to make the most of batteries alongside solar. I imagine grid level storage would have lower conversion losses and also has greater flexibility - on the basis that one large commercial battery system would be more efficient than hundreds of smaller domestic ones
@Senthiuz
Сағат бұрын
Grid operators are for profit companies, the give zero fucks about renewable, sustainability, reliability, pollution, or climate if these things don't affect the bottom line. They will make the choices that get their CEO and board members the biggest boats. If you want other goals you need a complicated regulatory and incentive system or government run utilities.
@sjdtmv
11 сағат бұрын
I think a great idea is a Heat Bank, this is old tech that use to heat up overnight on a cheap rate, then used during the day to heat your home, but if used to heat up with excess solar during the day time, then can be used at night to heat your home, A lot cheaper then a battery.
@Biggest-dh1vr
11 сағат бұрын
Batteries are becoming dirt cheap, though, and electricity is more versatile than heat.
@SimonHarvey-t4y
9 сағат бұрын
Thanks Gary. Your videos are consistently helpful and this one's exceptional. I have just 1kW solar installation and not much opportunity for self-consumption without lifestyle changes (cooking in the early afternoon etc.). I came to realise a years ago that the most critical factor in my payback estimates was the export rate on offer. With no guarantees that I could rely on 15p/KWh, I'm glad I sat tight and didn't max out the solar.
@GaryDoesSolar
4 сағат бұрын
Cheers Simon 😀👍🏻
@marxagarden
9 сағат бұрын
When will governments and industrialists realise that this excess of energy is a great opportunity to re industrialise rust belts? Excess energy is not something to be disincentivized, instead of embracing these changes they seem to be dragging their feet.
@GaryDoesSolar
9 сағат бұрын
In the UK at least, this seems to be happening now that we’ve got a new government 👍🏻
@roberthuntley1090
7 сағат бұрын
I'm somewhat sceptical about increasing battery capacity. Apart from the up front cost, latest UK guidance is that batteries should be fitted outside of the house and least one metre away from any doors, windows or air vents which precludes most of my external walls. I suppose a hard standing at the bottom of the garden is possible, but that's extra expense. One cheaper thing would be to bring back solar PV diverters heating immersion heaters - but the energy they can absorb is going to be limited by the size of the typical hot water cylinder to bout 4 kWh per day. They would have to set up suitable financial incentives to make this attractive.
@GaryDoesSolar
4 сағат бұрын
Yeah, I agree Robert - Solar diverters are highly likely to come back into fashion (until people get heat pumps, anyway…)
@radiotowers1159
14 сағат бұрын
Thanks Gary , very informative. VPP sounds interesting but if I expanded my battery system the cost outlay is all on my side, the energy company only pays you for units exported and I am left with maintenance and repair. If they decided to financially reimburse a percentage of installation costs that would be more attractive but I cant see that happening anytime soon.
@GaryDoesSolar
12 сағат бұрын
I like your thinking… but I’m hoping that as battery prices continue to fall, it makes it easier for consumers to invest 👍🏻
@nigelledeux6869
4 сағат бұрын
An extremely informative and useful video as always Gary. I am seriously considering a second PW2 whilst they are still available.
@GaryDoesSolar
4 сағат бұрын
Great idea, Nigel - I’m about to interview someone with 4 PW2s and about to get a 5th!
@nigelledeux6869
4 сағат бұрын
@@GaryDoesSolar I wish it was me!! I can't wait to see the video.
@markiliff
11 сағат бұрын
I hadn't heard the VPP idea set out like that before. But how? Who? I'd love to know more!
@stephenbrook65
10 сағат бұрын
Same here, we’re on the cusp of getting a new solar installation (with storage) - if the VPP concept is real in the UK I’d consider going with more storage
@GaryDoesSolar
10 сағат бұрын
I cover VPP in this video here if that helps? kzitem.info/news/bejne/lKytqqacroqqnKAsi=jpjLDjduA-Lb1dyB
@stephenbrook65
7 сағат бұрын
@@GaryDoesSolar thanks - I now see your comment that it’s still early days for VPP … I wasn’t sure if they are an operational reality, seems not just yet. But the concept could tip the balance in favour of upping the size of a planned battery installation 👍
@markiliff
6 сағат бұрын
@@GaryDoesSolar Thanks, but not really. It did flesh out the concept a little, but I was more interested in jumping aboard an existing scheme - with 27 kiwis in the home & 58 kiwis in the car, there has to be some potential. But maybe we're not there yet. I see Octopus describes their Intelligent as "UK’s largest virtual power plant". Is that a fair representation (the _VPP_ bit, not the _largest_ bit)?
@Crazydiamond_1974
3 сағат бұрын
It’s only a year since Octopus put export rates up to 15p, from 4.1p. Until then it was all self-consumption for me. Now it’s so much easier, not looking for somewhere to dump the power on a sunny day. Long may it last!
@Conficient
2 сағат бұрын
Indeed! My Powerwalls mean I can timeshift my consumption to overnight rates at 7p/kWh, and export solar during the day at 15p! In summer I make money. Gary's channel is one that helped me set this up - many thanks!
@bogdankushlyk
11 сағат бұрын
all true. I am getting prepared to it slowly. goal is to get 150-180 kWh of battery storage, and to add the electric vehicles instead of combustion ones, first piece of 60 kWh batteries arrives in a month or two.
@DodgyFPV
6 сағат бұрын
OR share it with your neighbours
@GaryDoesSolar
4 сағат бұрын
Well, that’s exactly where your solar goes. But it means your neighbours are no longer pulling from the grid… and so the grid has nowhere to send the abundant energy it has…
@FirstLast-rh9jw
2 сағат бұрын
Take away the subsidies, and the whole thing comes crashing down....
@ilovepizzadoyou
2 сағат бұрын
We need dual redundant inverters
@MattyFreedom
12 сағат бұрын
You can imagine my shock that governments across the world would encourage and tempt people to invest heavily up front with decent returns, before screwing everyone once enough suckers have bought in. Some would call that a scam.
@Biggest-dh1vr
11 сағат бұрын
A scam would be fossil fuel companies downplaying the externalities of their business (aka climate change and air pollution)
@ArizVern
Сағат бұрын
SOLAR GENERATION STORED TO BATTERY FOR NIGHT USE.
@stephenbrickwood1602
14 сағат бұрын
Good video Garry. 😊
@sandpitwtfover
3 сағат бұрын
Just want your batteries…. 100%
@ilovepizzadoyou
2 сағат бұрын
Jist turn off the export and shove it into some battery
@motofunk1
Сағат бұрын
I installed moon panels, they payback big during the 4-9pm period.
@ndkrupp
6 сағат бұрын
Charge you to take your export?!? Lol, that’s not real.
@GaryDoesSolar
4 сағат бұрын
It’s real in Australia and the Netherlands. Likely to spread to other countries soon… 👍🏻
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